The Greatest Generation - Nasty Little Roast Freak (VOY S7E6)

Episode Date: December 25, 2023

When Commander Harkins forces Barclay to take a week off, he follows Troi on vacation and realizes he’s been suspicious of his ex. But when a completely different Barcláy materializes on Voyager, t...he crew takes a more trust than verify approach and barely escapes a Ferengi lobe-enlargement plot. What is the mistletoe of the body? Which book should Star Trek publish next? Does Voyager need an additional staff policy? It’s the episode that’s too titillating for UPN!Support the production of The Greatest Generation.Friends of DeSoto for Democracy.Friends of DeSoto for Justice. Friends of DeSoto for Labor.Follow The Game of Buttholes: The Will of the Caretaker!Music by Adam Ragusea & Dark MateriaFollow The Greatest Generation on Twitter, and discuss the show using the hashtag #GreatestGen!The Greatest Generation is on YouTube.Facebook group | Subreddit | Discord | WikiSign up for our mailing list!Get a thing at podshop.biz!

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Starting point is 00:00:00 Here's to the finest crew in stopping. Engage! Watch your back, shot. Hello. I'm Captain Captain Brinke, where the U.S. is. Boy, I'm Captain Captain Captain Brinke, where the U.S. is. Boy, I'm Captain Captain Captain. Welcome to the greatest generation.
Starting point is 00:00:18 It's a Star Trek podcast by a couple of guys who are a little bit embarrassed about having a Star Trek podcast. I'm Ben Harrison. I'm Adam Pranica. Happy Christmas to everyone who celebrates today. We talked a long time about whether or not to drop an episode on the day of. I was like, why not?
Starting point is 00:00:36 We've never missed a day. The people listening now need it now more than ever. Yeah. Parents trying to get the attention of their adult children. Right, sure. On the love seat across the room. It's your turn to play Santa. And they're just not hearing it, not even trying to hear it.
Starting point is 00:00:59 The hood on their sweatshirt is up, their earbuds are discreetly in. Yeah. They're listening to the dulcet tones of Ben and Adam and just trying not to let the stress of the holiday get to them. Has the stress of the holiday gotten to you? I don't think so. I think that dissipating the holiday into, we do Hanukkah at our house and we do Christmas
Starting point is 00:01:23 at my mom and dad's house. Mm-hmm. That's really made everything a lot easier for me. I'm still, we're not even in Hanukkah yet as of this recording, so. I know. Just an 80 degree December day in Los Angeles. I love it. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:01:39 80 degrees yet still freezing inside my home studio. Yeah. So, what about that? Do you have that information, what you will? I was scrolling through gift guides trying to think of something nice for my wife as we fired up the pod today. It is the season for that.
Starting point is 00:01:57 Yeah. You know, you know this person as much as it's possible to know anyone else. Yeah. And yet that feeling of being totally lost about what to get that person that represents that feeling. Ugh, gives me chills. Very difficult.
Starting point is 00:02:13 I think some years I have an easier time than others. There's like a thing that is very obviously going to be a nice thing for it to have. And sometimes I see, I can see that thing before she does and those are the perfect years for gift giving. It's just isn't one of those years. I don't know how to wrap. The gift that is time away from me. You're just saying like a vibrator is a kind of an unusual shape.
Starting point is 00:02:49 I'm saying me getting the fuck out of town is a... That's just a notification on her phone she could get. Well, as much as I wish somebody could fill in the blanks for us on what gifts to give our special ladies, I thought maybe you could fill in some blanks for me, Adam. We've got some Star Trek madlibs here and it's been a really long time since we've done one. Wow. Wow. I thought it'd be fun to do one. Is this a holiday edition? Oh man. You know what? I'm going to make my answers more more holiday skewed. That's it, I'll do. You know what, I'm gonna make my answers more holiday skewed. That's what I'll do.
Starting point is 00:03:24 Okay. I'll make it a holiday edition. Yeah, okay. Well, I have a bunch of them here. Maybe I'll give you three titles to choose from and we can go from there. Okay. That's been good. Yeah, it sounds great.
Starting point is 00:03:40 Okay. Harry falls in love. Okay. That's a strong one. Dr. N7 or Ben and Adam slash Adam and Ben. Harry Kim falls in love. The Dr. N7, Adam and Ben, Ben and Adam. Yeah. Harry Kim falls in love.
Starting point is 00:04:00 Hey, I like a decisive man. Decisive man? Always very hot. One, two, and you people, you're all... I'm... somehow a Star Trek. Mad, mad, mad, mad, mad. First word I need from you, Adam. It's a gerund. That's a verb ending in I&G.
Starting point is 00:04:22 Hanging. Like hanging mistletoe. Uh-huh. Verben the past tense. Hanging. Ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha Right, because one is about Dying by rope and then the other one is any other version, right? No, I think I meant what I meant. Okay, a plural body part Hmm
Starting point is 00:05:00 Bund I like I like how non-specific that one is. Singular body part, Adam. Arm pit. Nothing puts me in the holiday mood like the thought of an armpit. That's the body's mistletoe right there. According to Dan Savage. Okay. Verb in the present tense. Drink. Drink. Okay, plural now. Trees. Trees.
Starting point is 00:05:36 Oh, can I, can I make that Christmas trees? Okay. Yeah. Adding X-mas to the beginning of that, because I don't have a lot of space here on the page. You got it You know XMAS Star Trek alien species Adam. Who's not? Is that even count if they're all gone? No, we'll see. We'll see when we flip the page over All right, an adjective Mary Like Newman from Seinfeld.
Starting point is 00:06:06 Like Mary and Jolly. Mm-hmm. Holly Jolly. A verb in the past tense? Slaped. A verb in the present tense. Tickle. Tickle. Wow.
Starting point is 00:06:21 Ha ha ha ha. How did you know that there was something to follow up slapped? Another gerent. What does that mean again? That's the ING kind of herb. Okay. Gotta hope I'm right about that. Shooting.
Starting point is 00:06:40 And now. Shuttlecraft. An adjective. Warm. A social event. Agnog Power Hour. Oh, geez. Just the thought of that. Gives me the willies.
Starting point is 00:07:00 I got a jug of aged Agnog in the fridge right now. I tasted some of that, it was great. Thanks man. Yeah, opened it up while you came over. Over the weekend, that was the first time we had enjoyed it. Really good. That felt really a momentous. Okay, adjective. Nautious.
Starting point is 00:07:22 Verb in the past tense. Lit. And finally, an important ship system. Sewage reclamation. I mean, that's pretty much just me, right? Look at me! I'm a system! Alright Adam. Just a reminder the title of this story is Harry falls in love. Hmm. A holiday story.
Starting point is 00:07:56 I'm hanging you Tom. She's not like the other girls I've hanged for. Sure, those buns sticking out of her armpit may seem strange at first, but now they're all I can drink about. Hey, that's pretty fun. That's like a little reference to my old podcast. Let's drink about it. When there's a body part on your special person
Starting point is 00:08:23 that you need to drink about. Mm-hmm. That's tough. That's a thing. Yeah. And she's got trees that could put a hoosenock to shame. Mm-hmm. But it's not just that. I've never felt so merry with a woman.
Starting point is 00:08:38 Yeah. We just slapped right away. Mm-hmm. And she's already learned how to tickle my clarinet. Oh. That one worked out. Yeah, I know Belonikata are shooting the Warpcore controls. And Tuvac said that she seemed oddly fixated
Starting point is 00:08:54 with the captain's shuttlecraft. But she's a warm girl. Look, I'll bring it up with her during our eggnog power hour. But I'm telling you, buddy, she's nauseous. Wait, what's this code that's been lit into my console using my password? Oh God, she's compromised sewage reclamation and just jake the shuttle and oh no, the airlock is opening. So end of the reading. Yet another relationship of a very specific kind. For Harry Kim.
Starting point is 00:09:28 Yeah, no kidding. I lasted 22 minutes. That was a lot of fun. She had butts in her armpits. Oh, I was picturing like hair buns, but uh... Oh. Hell, I was thinking butt buns. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:09:43 I mean, it could have been those two. You can always give those buns a little little haircut Yeah, I suppose you could. It's objectionable that there's nothing you could do about butts in your armpits Buts in your armpits. I mean not everyone keeps their butt in the same place. This is Star Trek Don't you feel like Star Trek would have done more body part replacement I feel like Star Trek would have done more body part replacement over the entire run than we've ever gotten. Can you even think of another example besides genital knee guy?
Starting point is 00:10:13 I feel like there have been people whose ears and noses have been in weird places. Eyes are pretty much always in the same place. Yeah. Yeah. Except for on those fish guys, I hope that we're really handsome. Yeah, that's what makes them prey. Wasn't one of those fish guys played by a rock star?
Starting point is 00:10:34 Sure. Yeah. A Fleetwood Mac. Oh, wow. Played that guy. I think for all the mad libing that we've done, Star Trek could stand to do a little bit more mad libing of body parts.
Starting point is 00:10:48 Boy, it's really true. You said it. That's what I want. With our remaining Star Trek episodes. Yeah. The number is slowly waddling down to zero, but we got a banger today, Adam. Yeah, we really do. Something got into the stream today. Yeah, it's season seven, episode six, Inside Man.
Starting point is 00:11:11 Reaper, course. Unless you've got something a little bigger in your torpedo tubes, I'm not dreaming about that. Janeway's Log in the cold open tells us that they are missing a data stream and everyone is really hungry for the one that comes next. When you go without, like you get used to the data stream, right? Right. And then when the data stream's not there, you realize how dependent you've become. It looks like home to you.
Starting point is 00:11:39 I do well-resented. It's absence. Right. Like when the Wi-Fi goes down mid-flight, it's like very frustrating. And yet, this was how it was always. In the corridor, Paris and Kim are not wearing fun costumes. Like I had hoped. I wish they'd been in fun costumes.
Starting point is 00:12:00 Yeah. Paris kind of holds Kim responsible for the last one going missing. And he's like, what do you, that wasn't me. It never showed up. I didn't lose anything. Yeah, he says something about something in the stream being too big for the ship to take on.
Starting point is 00:12:18 And now he and Seven have to unclog the works to get this thing coming through. We need to pull it out. Assist me. You know, it's always good to prep when you're about to receive a big data stream. You know? Well, I mean, I think it's a good idea. If it's been a while, like if it's been a month,
Starting point is 00:12:36 maybe pinch the end of it, so the stream doesn't go all over the place. Hmm, sure. So he heads into the ass lab and they figure out why this state is stream is so goddamn big. It's not the regular packets of email and video grams. It is a hollow. And they've got to get it out of the buffer fast before it degrades.
Starting point is 00:13:00 We've seen the container that these things live in. It's big. It's big container. They decided, or Harry specifically decides that blowing out some equipment on Voyager is worth it, because obviously, Starfleet wouldn't send this hollow if it hadn't been important. I love this decision by an Edson.
Starting point is 00:13:19 Yeah. Blow it up. Blow it up twice I love the Like immediate gratification of that too like the the sparks blow out one of the panels This is like seven special workspace that she's normally a hundred percent in charge of and Harry Kim was just on a rough shot over it sucks We go to that hologram lab and get to meet a Lieutenant Barkley Hollow.
Starting point is 00:13:54 This is not quite the same character as the original Barkley that we've spent time with on the D and back on Earth. He's real self-possessed, you know, he's making big promises. He is sort of the Stefan Erkel of Reds Barclay. He's the Reginald Barclay, if you will. He sure is. I'm a walk-and-talking problem solving interactive hologram. You can call me Reds. It's nice to meet your Reds. I love how he's cool in every other way except hair. Yeah, there's only so much you can do with hair when you've got the actor playing two parts across the course of the episode. It makes sense when you realize later on what's going on with this guy and why he is the way he is.
Starting point is 00:14:44 The people programming him don't know of hair. But yeah, this guy's cool as hell. He's great. He talks about how, okay, so we're heading toward grid 898 here on the Voyager and up ahead is a red giant star. And it's giving us an opportunity to create a geodesic fold that Voyager will be able to fly through.
Starting point is 00:15:11 It's like if you took a center fold and punched a pencil through it. Excuse me, that's Vanessa and that's mine. That kind of thing. I don't like that he's proposing event horizon to the crew. Don't like it at all. And Janeway doesn't like it either.
Starting point is 00:15:28 She's like, no dice. That'll never work on network television. Yeah, yeah. To our rated. Do you know what would happen if you tried to play event horizon on UPN? It would be 40 minutes long. And he's like, I actually thought of all of this.
Starting point is 00:15:45 There are schematics for shield upgrades and medical technology in my data stream that are going to solve for all of the things that you worry about when you event horizon your ship. And, you know, we've got a couple of days to put all this stuff into place. You know, I'm going to be working with you guys. It's all going to be okay okay, startfully thought of everything. No one in the engine room's gonna light on fire. There's no visitor that's gonna gouge out their own eyes.
Starting point is 00:16:14 There's no younger crew person who's gonna try to leave through the airlock. It's gonna be fine. It's gonna be fine. He has answers for all of these contingencies. You know, like think, just think about your sick bay for one second. Are there knives and chains dangling from the ceilings at all? If the answer is no, you have to go with this idea.
Starting point is 00:16:38 Okay, way is open. And you are all coming with me. And like his confidence is very persuasive, right? Yeah, it's not a thing where anybody is suspicious at all for quite a long time, actually. Including Mark, who is really happy to just give over his mobile emitter to the Ridge Berkeley hologram, no questions asked.
Starting point is 00:17:03 It's a little like professional courtesy. Like, oh, like always nice to meet Berkeley hologram, no questions asked. It's a little like professional courtesy, like always nice to meet another hologram, but also, I've actually met Berkeley on a previous data stream adventure. So nice to see a friendly face for him. The suggestion for just the briefest moment that this guy might be a fake and Whatever happened the last month's data stream
Starting point is 00:17:29 Do you think that we would have been better off without it completely? because Once you get to the end of this episode you're like, you know, there were suspicious for like a half a minute in six Bay I almost wish they weren't suspicious at all. Yeah It makes them look like assholes either way, but... Yeah. Almost like like bigger assholes to like have the suspicion
Starting point is 00:17:53 and then not do anything to check on it. That's the part I don't like is like they had the instinct, but they didn't do anything about it. It's like they trusted, but they didn't verify. Precisely. Yeah. So very nice they trusted, but they didn't verify. Precisely. Yeah. So, very nice thing Dr. Mark has done here. My emitter is your emitter.
Starting point is 00:18:12 And it's clear that this is gonna be like a prison sentence for him because he follows Barclay and Jane Wei all the way to the door, but not out of it. He's gonna be trapped in there. Yeah. We go to a McLaughlin group. Is your one. And I laughed out loud at the second we cut to this
Starting point is 00:18:30 because we open with the camera close up on a schematic of this red giant star that looks like nothing but a goatee. Yeah. The geodesic fold will open here, adjacent to the giant northern pole. And we pull back and, know they're talking about how this geodesic fold is going to work and you know what the plan is and they're also getting ready to send a data stream back
Starting point is 00:18:58 to Starfleet. Basically I message received data stream and I thought I thought that the captain sounded a little horny when she starts talking about wanting to send a thank you note to Barkley for all his hard work. Did you get this in a performance at all? When Barkley is involved, I had not horny whatsoever. I'm not on that wavelength. I don't know, I kind of got the sense that
Starting point is 00:19:22 there's coffee in all his hard work. I mean, she hasn't met Barclay. She's only met Barclay. So maybe she's thinking that Barclay is sexier than he actually is. Yeah. I mean, maybe this is a future hairstyle that really works. Yeah. That really floods the basements. When she talks about this note, the camera does hand down to Chicote's fist, which is crushing a pencil. One thing that I really liked about this scene is how overt it is that when Barkley calls the plays for the mission, everyone gets a responsibility except Nelix, like, can spiculously not Nelix.
Starting point is 00:20:00 And Nelix is like, hey, man, what about me? And Barkley turns into a hell of a ball coach here. This is like what it was like for me to play Little League. Like, hey, I noticed everyone's in the lineup. And the coach is like, look, we need some strong hitters off the bench. So you just pick up the bats for the other kids and wait. Your job might be the most important one of all. This is great. Like, this is not the barclay that we know at all. He's really encouraging
Starting point is 00:20:34 and optimistic. He's like doing captain's speech or fine. Yeah. I wouldn't like this if I were Janeway. She really does give him a lot of rope. Yeah. Of course, it's locked in. What? Did this one to mean very careful? Because I'm a man to say this once. Tom, speaking of ropes, not optimistic. He and Harry have this conversation where Tom goes through some past episodes
Starting point is 00:21:02 where they thought that they were going to get to go home and how badly things went. Our shortcuts have a tendency to blow up in our faces. Which list is longer? The list of terrible exes that Kim has had or the opportunities to go home that fizzled out. They have both been listed in recent episodes and I think Kim's list was longer. Yeah, I think so too. And I think there's ever any doubt that it's going to be longer forever. Yeah. We cut to the ASLAB where Sefin is talking about a plan to mitigate damage to the ship based on some board tech, the way thes do their structural integrity fields when they
Starting point is 00:21:45 go through space buttholes. And this conversation kind of turns as they discuss it to all of the excitement that is brewing on Earth for the return of Voyager and all the parties, all the speeches that will be conducted when they get back. I thought that's evidence was just like, that should sounds boring, I don't wanna do it, but it's actually that she's got some kind of anxiety about being an XB on Earth.
Starting point is 00:22:15 This picture that Barkley paints is extremely positive. You think you're gonna get home and and be a pariah? Only if a pariah means like sitting on the back of a convertible while ticker tape falls around you. Yeah. The etymology of pariah is actually the same as the etymology of parade. I love how he says that knowing what we know about the population of earth and And knowing what we know about the population of Earth and let's just say the federation. He says that she will be a hero to millions. Do you think that's a dunk? Is that like the smaller of the two sides of the ratio?
Starting point is 00:22:58 That's it I'm thinking. Also another person has become an XB kind of famously. She's not the first. Anybody that's lost anyone to the board is gonna treat you as a sign of hope because they can't treat Picard as that because he's probably the board that they lost that person too.
Starting point is 00:23:18 Exactly. Yeah, yeah, by comparison, she's got to be feeling pretty good. Her body count is pretty small, by comparison, she's got to be feeling pretty good. Her body count is pretty small, by comparison. Rage and old Barclay has a pep talk, kind of pre-programmed to get her excited. It feels well rehearsed, doesn't it? It does. I don't think anything is going to really convince seven that she's going to be
Starting point is 00:23:52 Welcome to home though. No, she's gonna she's the only person on the ship that is gonna trust but verify Yeah, I feel like yeah good for her. We cut to earth and the Office building where the communications research center is Just a building that does not inspire. This building makes me sad. Hey, Starfleet, is this your idea of architecture? It sort of looks like it was put up in the 70s. So like by the time Barkley is working on it, it's like an ancient building.
Starting point is 00:24:23 You know, if you could say objectively that the Salesforce building is better looking than this, I think you've done wrong. Wow, absolutely savage. Turns out Adam, the data streams are not in fact making it to Voyager. Yeah, look, when I saw that this was gonna be Turns out Adam the Davis dreams are not in fact making it to Voyager. Yeah. Look, when I saw that this was gonna be a, a Barclay episode I was like, hmm.
Starting point is 00:24:50 But then when I realized this was gonna be a Richard McGonagall playing Pete Harkens episode I was like, fuck yeah! Pete Harkens rules! Harkens rules, broccoli jewels. He's trying to get redged to chill out because they have in fact been trying to send a hologram, but what seems to be happening is that the signal is dissipating in space, in between earth and Voyager. So we need a clear line of sight through two quadrants
Starting point is 00:25:24 to get this here, right? Yeah. What is this? And so the streams aren't making it. Something's cutting it off. It's like losing your reception on K-Rock when you go through the grapevine. Precisely. Harkin seems like a cool boss, right? He's like, look, we're not gonna solve this tonight. The day's over. Let's go home. Let's go home. Also, like next month, it's not gonna be a hologram. Like, let's just go back to the regular emails and video
Starting point is 00:25:51 grams, you know? It's clear that this whole idea has been a huge disappointment. Although Barkley is like, why do we send a ship out there to investigate this area? Yeah. Given that it's two months in a row where this thing's been cut off. Commander Pete is like, you know, he's like, he's like, Like, why do we send a ship out there to investigate this area? Yeah. Given that it's two months in a row where this thing's been cut off.
Starting point is 00:26:08 Commander Pete is like, hmm, last day checked, Reg, you got two Pips. You're not the kind of person that gets to charter missions in Starfleet. Yeah. It is a scene that begs the question, if this is Reginald Barkley, who the hell is that on Voyager? And how did he get there? Yeah. Probably not the greatest moment to bring a tour of like Seven-year-old kids through the
Starting point is 00:26:39 Pathfinder project. Also, the Pathfinder project seems like a super boring field trip. Like, if you lived in the Star Trek future and your fourth grade class is going to get a big tour of a lab, how boring is that? I think when the school bus drops you off in front of a building that looks like this, you need to know where your expectations need to be. You really regret getting your parents to put their thumbprint on that permission slip.
Starting point is 00:27:11 Yeah. I pad, right? Yeah. I'd rather be in the library that day. Yeah. These kids don't get much to do other than just be kind of like shocked and weirded out by Barclley when he runs into the room, yelling that it's the borgs that must have assimilated the hologram.
Starting point is 00:27:29 Yeah. It's a conversation that isn't appropriate for kids. And he goes on and on and on before Pete Harkins shuts this guy up. Yeah. And recommends he use some of his leave. Barkley is a lot of leave. His accruals are big. Barkley has a lot of leave. His accruals are big. Barkley has as much leave as my wife does. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:27:50 She's caught in that trap. Like, important job, time off, unable to use it. Yeah. It's in bullshit. Can she get compensated for it? Can they pay her out? Or like, in a moneyless future, he can't even go for the like I'll just take the check you know. That's what's so crazy about the 24th century.
Starting point is 00:28:11 You use it or you really lose it. You really do. Yeah. What I don't like is Pete Harkin suggesting that he goes to his cousin's beach house in Malaysia. That does seem weird. Why is Pete Hartkin so nice to Barkley? Given I'm gesturing broadly all of the reasons.
Starting point is 00:28:34 I don't know, maybe he's got orders. I give you a best friend with all due respects and my best friend. I can barely tolerate being in the same room with him, man. Barkley is too crucial to the Pathfinder project to be a dick too. I would be making the face every fucking day in this lab if I had to work with Barkley. It would just be frozen. Yeah. So this is kind of an order. Barkley does not take him up on the Malaysian beach house, but he accepts his marching orders.
Starting point is 00:29:07 We cut back to the Delta Quadrant, and Mark is working on the vaccine info that Barclay showed up with. He's like, I mean, we're going to be subjecting the crew to a lot of radiation going through this spatial fold. And the vaccines that you're talking about are like not substantially different from the kinds of vaccines that we would have had access to without your special data stream. So like, what gives, man? special data stream. So like, what gives, man? I like that the consequences are mentioned a couple of times in
Starting point is 00:29:53 some pretty gross detail. To me, they should have been mentioned 10 more times. Like in graphic detail. Didn't you want them to do like a, we're running a simulation on the holodeck, but we're not saying we're running a simulation on the holodeck, but we're not saying we're running a simulation on the holodeck and like melt everyone. Yeah, and it's like the scene from the rock where the VX poison gas busts open in the lab. And that guy starts foaming and breaking his own back. That's the scene I wanted.
Starting point is 00:30:18 That would have been great, except for... UPN, you know? Probably couldn't show it. Too gross. Yeah. Too much like a Vent Horizon. Ha ha ha. Oh my god. Objection noted, we'll do this without you.
Starting point is 00:30:34 Do it. Do it. Objection noted, we'll do this without you. Do it. Do it. Do it. Do it. Barclay is really cool about the whole thing. He's like, look, it's not just the
Starting point is 00:30:48 inoculations, it's the combination of the shield and the inoculations that make the whole thing work. It's not either or it's both. Yeah. But that does not make anyone feel better about the idea of one of those things failing. Right. So he's like, all right, well, I'm going to go do the rest of my stuff for the day. And Mark is like, hey, but before you go, would love to get the mobile emitter back. I've got some stuff I want to do also. And there's only the one of them. And the music cue as Barclay leaves the holodeck, really draws an underlying under the idea that this mobile emitter situation is more serious than it might seem on the surface. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:31:31 They really should have made a couple of these. Yeah. If they've gotten a couple more 29th century thingies. Yeah. Could they make another one or is it like beyond their abilities? It doesn't seem like they can. It's not mentioned in this episode. And I wish it were, what do you think about the episode's decision to not make Barclay
Starting point is 00:31:59 do evil on screen at this point, or even within the next 20-ish minutes of episode runtime. Like, the intentionality of just letting this guy exist with the crew not doing anything malevolent, I thought was really great for the tension. I did too, because if you were like looking at your phone for a minute when we cut back to Earth and established that neither data stream made it to Voyager as far as Starfleet knows, you might still not realize that something is wrong with this guy. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:32:33 Or like if you're grounded and listening to this episode in your bedroom and I'm unable to watch it visually, very confusing. Strange. So Voyager sends its data stream back. No word on just what Captain Janeway enclosed as a thank you note to. Regbarkly, but when we cut to the Midas array,
Starting point is 00:32:57 the camera flies into that part of the Midas array that isn't actually physically attached to it. So neat. It reveals that there's some kind of Farengy crap clamped onto it. And now we cut to this Farengy ship that is tapped into the comms between Starfleet and Voyager. I love that Farengy ship design on the interior is completely unchanged between now and the first season of TNG. We're still flying around with those white balls. Yeah, love those balls.
Starting point is 00:33:36 So great. Love those scheming for Rangie's talking about their nano probes for profit plan. What an inventive way to get profit these guys have come up with. There's your ship stranded, tens of thousands of light years from here that has a cache of board nanoprobes on it.
Starting point is 00:33:56 If we can get our hands on those nanoprobes, via a scheme involving a spatial fold and a red giant star. We can make tons of money off of this. It's true. It's a victimless crime when the victim is thousands of light years away, right? I guess so, yeah.
Starting point is 00:34:18 I mean, end of a board, just like, I don't know if we've ever seen an assimilated forengi. Oh, did we see one in in prodigy? I think we did. Yeah. That was fun. Yeah. But as far as we know in this time period, the Farenci don't have any specific beef with the Borgs. The Farenci start watching this transmission and they do that thing where they fast forward past the exposition in the porn and go straight into insertion where Barkley is telling them that he's included schematics of seven and of the millions of nanoprobes that are a board voyage
Starting point is 00:34:53 or that that they could take. They're really sick because the number is bigger than they expected, which means the profits will be bigger than they expected. Oh man, pretty good deal. be bigger than they expected. Mm-hmm. Oh man. Pretty good deal. We cut to a Baywatch-like beach scene. Do do do do. The scene really made me respect Baywatch more
Starting point is 00:35:13 for all of the challenges that a scene like this must present, right? Yeah. And I'm talking about footprints in the sand continuity. I'm talking about just the sound of the ocean constantly. And the light, whether or not the sunlight and its reflection off of the ocean, is blowing you out or not, it's got to be such a challenge to do this. Just like the toll sand takes on film equipment.
Starting point is 00:35:46 From the couple of times that I've shot something in a sandy environment is devastating. And nightmare. I mean, it's no wonder that Star Trek doesn't shoot in sandy environments very often. Yeah, it's coarse, rough and irritating, and it gets everywhere. But also, like Baywatch always just looks so summary and great.
Starting point is 00:36:08 And this is not a particularly summary looking day at the beach. Yeah, there's something about the color temperature of it that kind of feels like... Kind of a kind of shooting day for night, kind of like winter for summer. Yeah, which they had to do on Baywatch all the time, but they like, you know, they used like lights with really, you know, with like yellow gels in front of them to warm things up. I mean, it's hard on actors too,
Starting point is 00:36:38 because you know, you're in a swimsuit on a beach when it's like freezing out. Yeah, like you can't just tell yourself not to get goose bumps. Right. It's gonna happen. Barkley shows up on this beach. That I loved seeing all the like aliens in loaf on the beach also, but Barkley's got a little loaf of his own.
Starting point is 00:36:59 He's put some technological zinc oxide on his nose and a big floppy hat. He walks up to counselor Troy with some chocolate teaky drinks. Boy, she has creeped out. She's so creeped out that she covers herself up. She's out there sunbathing and she throws a towel over. She does not want her patient, awgling her body.
Starting point is 00:37:29 I can't think of a chocolate teaky drink, but I bet you can. Those are things, right? I thought that this was a novel idea. I'm very curious about it. Maybe it should be a square on the game of buttholes. We try to come up with a chocolate teaky drink. I like that a lot.
Starting point is 00:37:42 Let's remove the tub one and replace it with that. Ha-ha-ha-ha-ha. This is rice up, Ben. try to come up with a chocolate teaky drink. I like that a lot. Let's remove the tub one and replace it with that. This is Risa Ben. Did you know that? There's the Ricean logo on the towel on her Shea Long. I did not know that. Wow. If this is Risa, where are the Horgon?
Starting point is 00:38:01 That is a problem with this episode. Yeah. Someone's gotta be making a sandhorgon, right? That's fun. Ah, that would have been so fun. If they ever upres Voyager to HD, I hope they George Lucas of CG sandhorgons in. I got to show you a thing while we're talking about sandhorgon, hold on.
Starting point is 00:38:23 I'm showing you in the viewers the Riker Horgon that we were given. Oh yeah, the the the Horgon that has the Riker beard and it's doing the Riker maneuver. Look at what happened to him. We've been touring for years and years and years and years and to my knowledge, we've never broken a Horgon. And this one broke. we've never broken a Horgon. And this one broke. The base broke off the foot. What I realized when this was broken was that the base was filled with sand. Whoa! Absolutely filled to give it a sturdy base. And that sand went everywhere. I felt a lot like Anakin. Yeah. When I opened up my suitcase and found this guy split apart. I don't like sand.
Starting point is 00:39:11 Oh, man. So what I got to do is refill the base with sand and epoxy it back together. Do you think that it was 3D printed in two parts so that that sand could be added? I do think that because there's a hole in the base that seems pretty purpose built. Oh yeah, look at that. Yeah. And they square her. Yeah, this is one of my favorite horgon.
Starting point is 00:39:31 And it really fucked me. Yeah. Right. Got a ticket that. Luck, no, get that. Roll, battle, hodge, munch, here. I've got a ticket that. Luck, no, no.
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Starting point is 00:42:57 Society. Captain the Captain, the U.S.S. Forthest, for Captain the Captain, the U.S. Forthest, for the U.S. Troy amid her protestations about how inappropriate this is, about how creepy it is, about how this is not okay for him to come make her do her job when she's on her vacation. Basically, stops all of those protestations and immediately starts being counselor Troy again. And he,
Starting point is 00:43:35 you know, is telling her about how like work is going bad and his life is going bad. And he'd everything had been going good. And the last time they saw each other, he was on top of the world. He'd shown his hologram idea to Jordy and gotten a big compliment about it, and that had given him a real boost. And he was like dating someone. And then when work started going bad,
Starting point is 00:44:01 she kind of ghosted him, and everything has just fallen apart. I think the episode believes that these are persuasive arguments to get Troy to help him out. But when I hear this list, all I hear is a guy fucking up a bunch and then making it her problem to clean up his mess. It sucks. You know what I wish there was more of in this scene and other scenes is the tension of a will riker, which goes like, I'm just trying to have a good time with my wife. And more than that, when I'm not around, I want my wife to be happy. And guess what? You're pissing me off because you're stressing around all the time.
Starting point is 00:44:46 Yeah, I just, I think that Berkeley is such a fragile man of a character that any smoke from Will Riker would just absolutely shatter him. Yeah. Like I almost respected them not. I like, I feel like it's probably budget more than anything else that doesn't have brakes in this episode, but I also feel like
Starting point is 00:45:08 brakes would have blown him off the screen just in the Riz category. And. How fucking great would it have been to have seen brakes in swim trunks, though? I want, want it all. Yeah. Not on UPN.
Starting point is 00:45:25 Too sexy. Too titillating. So Troy does this thing to get Barclay remember, to remember better days. And the thing about the story he tells about Leosa is a pretty fun trick she does. All she does is have Barkley describe the relationship with Leosa and then kind of repeat the description in a way that makes it pretty clear that she's suspicious. Yeah. She's a suspicious person.
Starting point is 00:46:03 suspicious. She's a suspicious person. If, on the other hand, he'd described her and Troy had sort of expressed admiration or like she kind of had his girlfriend's back in the situation. Would that have been a leosa route? Hmm, hmm. Yeah. Yeah. I thought that this scene for some of the challenges of shooting on the beach, this scene got more and more impressive as it went on because they start doing like crane shots
Starting point is 00:46:33 and I mean all of the dialogue is looped, but. And waves are hitting them in the legs? Yeah, like these are compound scenes where they have multiple beats of blocking, like where they're like walk along the beach and then go sit down on some rocks. And like the waves are like interacting with those rocks, you know, danger close the entire time. And it looks great and the timing of the waves.
Starting point is 00:46:57 That scene where they sit on the rock together and the wave crashes against that rock and it kind of blurps over them a little bit but doesn't ruin anything. You can't plan for that. No, it's so good. They got really lucky with that.
Starting point is 00:47:12 Yeah. Either that or they did like 10 million takes of it, but it looked great. I love that Troy dug up that he was like mildly suspicious of Leo Sir. Mm-hmm. And I didn't see this coming. Like I didn't see this as being where the episode was heading at all. Everybody is now suspicious of Barclay's ex and whether she did something to his hologram.
Starting point is 00:47:38 Yeah. We cut from this scene to Voyager in the mess hall where Barclay is doingager in the mess hall, where Barclay is doing bits in front of everyone, including a spot on Janeway Impression in Tuvac 2. His Janeway Impression is nearly as good as ours. I want to know what you plan to do about it. I thought that it was very cute that a scene on the beach that has to be looped with the
Starting point is 00:48:06 dialogue was right up against a scene where they have to loop the dialogue because it's one character's voice coming out of another character's mouth. It's a great observation. Yeah. It was fun. I feel like it helps sell the bit. Good restraint to not do that thing where someone is being made fun of and then that person walks in the room behind them. And then Barclay goes, she's behind me, isn't she? Right, yeah.
Starting point is 00:48:32 Instead, he gets called away to the holodeck by Dr. Mark, who is pretty irritated that Barclay has stood him up for their golf date. Dr. Mark is all decked out in his golf attire in his tweeds, his big ol' bow tie. Hey, you should play the Waterbury Open tomorrow. Yeah. Yeah, all right, I'll see you guys there. I read something pretty funny to me about moments like these that may hit a very,
Starting point is 00:49:04 very, very small portion of our audience, which goes like, the person waiting for their friend to show up for the tea time is way more stretched than the person who's late for the tea time. And that's really true. I think that goes for like meeting for a movie or meeting at a restaurant or something like I don't know the waiter Yeah, is on one in these moments. That's definitely a thing. Yeah, they talk a little bit about What course they're gonna golf one of the options the back nine at guiti prime Again guiti prime again. What fade routho's handicap you think scratch
Starting point is 00:49:48 there's a hot Conan animal Barclay plays it off he's got other plans with seven yeah but this is the scene where the mask slips a little bit right he gets a little a little aggro a little bit a little bit like scary. Board games aren't exactly crucial to your mission. And I suppose golf is rich. We cut back to Earth where Reg Barkley's ex is being interrogated in a pretty high level. Like she is not playing this like she's intimidated by having been hauled in front of a starfleet admiral.
Starting point is 00:50:25 I would be shitting myself. She's comfortable with it like she's done it before maybe even many times. Yeah. Liyosa. Alio. Essay. And Troy picks up on this. Like how do you get through to someone for whom this is not an unusual situation? How do you increase
Starting point is 00:50:46 the stakes? And involuntary psychiatric evaluation and hospitalization is what she threatened. What's the longest you've ever been incarcerated? I didn't like this. Yeah, but I mean, the stakes are high. And you can tell that this woman is in a lot of trouble when she gets left alone with With counselor Troy. Yeah, Troy comes out. He's like, yeah, so she works for this guy named Nunk He you know came up with this whole scheme. They capture the hologram send a altered version along So they're tasking the USS Carolina with going after Nunk and the rest of the Ferengi bad guys in this episode. Star Trek needs to make and release the great big book of Ferengi baby names. Nunk is great. Nunk is so perfectly Ferengi.
Starting point is 00:51:38 It really is. It sounds like, I don't know, like a sound more than a name. Yeah. Yeah. It's the sound where if you turn a five gallon bucket from the home center upside down and drop a quarter on it. Oh, yeah. That makes it noom. Sure does.
Starting point is 00:51:58 Look at what you've made, Windy, too. Come on, man. Sorry, Wendy. So Admiral Paris is going to direct the Federation Starship Carolina to go intercept. And in the moments after this, Leo said absolutely smashes Barclay's balls about stringing him along during the relationship. Mashes, Barkley's balls about stringing him along during their relationship. Ugh. I don't often feel bad for Barkley, but this is one of those times. Park Barkley. This is just unnecessarily cruel.
Starting point is 00:52:34 He's so hurt by this whole thing. Was everything that happened between us a lie? Not everything. Just the parts where I express defection for you. I've said this over the course of my entire life and in all my relationships, like accidentally hurting someone's feelings
Starting point is 00:52:50 happens all the time. But as soon as you like do that with intent, you're fucking dead to me. Yeah. Like don't try to hurt people. Yeah. And Liyosa does.
Starting point is 00:53:01 She writes some like a super long text message attacking every bit of his character. Yeah. I'm giving you an order. I'm giving you an order. They have under spritters. I'm giving you an order. I'm giving you an U.F.
Starting point is 00:53:14 Just crossed the line. What Liyosa also does is let spill the issue of the Nana probes, right? Yeah, and that she's getting points on the back end, like she didn't get anything up front for this. Yeah. She's taking as big a risk as the Frankies are. What the fuck? What an idiot! You in a break Reds Bargley's heart She'll help a mouth for a small percentage He'll be turning an approach in the bars of Latham
Starting point is 00:53:49 He's nuk, he's nuk, he's in her bed He's nuk, he's nuk, he's nuk She gives great head That's U-Box to you Mmm Hehehehe That's humox to you. Finally, Mark goes to the captain with, hey, I'm a little bit worried about this bar clay fellow. I think we should at least do a diagnostic, see if anything's wrong.
Starting point is 00:54:21 Yeah, makes sense. She goes up to him in the ass lab and is, you know, not as sly as I think Dr. Mark might have hoped with the way she approaches Bart Clay on this. She's like, yeah, the doctor asked for it. Yeah, I didn't like that. You might name out of it, Captain. Trying to put the, like like safety of the ship first,
Starting point is 00:54:46 and you're putting me on blast. I really thought this would do it, but Barclay is way all right with this. Yeah, he's like, yeah, cool. Scan me twice. Back on Earth, Barclay, stressing about these nanoprobes,
Starting point is 00:55:02 and he's willing to talk to Troy about it, but won't tell Pete Harkin about it until he has some hard evidence, which is like a big gaping hole in the plot to me. Like, what do you mean, man? Like, you got, like, they know that she's in league with these forengues. You tell everything you know about what she said. Barkley is someone who totally vomits out his heart and soul to anyone that he works with.
Starting point is 00:55:29 Yeah. This is the moment you show restraint. Barkley, is this your idea of restraint? It's bad. Yeah. So the Ferengi's initiate this geodesic space fold. And in the D-quad voyagers head toward the who or but questions keep coming up about the radiation deal you know
Starting point is 00:55:54 seven is like yeah so you keep saying that the like vaccinations and the shields are gonna work together to protect from the radiation but what if one of the other fails not super satisfied by that. Everyone just turns into a wet red paste. Who's gonna clean that up? If I'm also a wet red paste. Will the squeegee be among the things that gets liquefied? Or will that at least be intact for whoever finds the ship on the other side?
Starting point is 00:56:29 How good are the diagnostics on the ship if they can't tell that Barclay has been fucked with? Or is from a place he shouldn't be from? Or whatever. This diagnostic reveal is nothing, it's worthless. Trash diagnostic is what it is. Yeah. How about that hollow attack, though,
Starting point is 00:56:47 where he just puts his finger in her head? I didn't like that. That's gotta cause bored brain damage, right? It goes right in there. They show it going in. Yeah. Ugh. It's like a wet wily for brains.
Starting point is 00:57:01 Yeah. And now he's doing his voice trick where he can mimic anybody perfectly, but now he's using that power for evil? Had to call that back. Good call back. Great call back. And then Berkeley calls up Chicoeté and it's like,
Starting point is 00:57:16 Chicoeté, meet me in my quarters. And bring the bubble bath concentrate. Tonight's your night. Sounds great. I feel so bad for him. So it sort of seems like there's nothing that they can do about it in the a quads. Like they're watching all this unfold from the Pathfinder Research Project. But then the Ferengi get a face time and very obvious to us that this is coming from
Starting point is 00:57:49 Barclay and not Barclay. But he persuades them to close the fold because Voyager is way more capable than they initially anticipated and when they come through they're going to just kill the Farenki and that is no profit in being murdered. Yeah, unfortunately that's true. So out of extreme Farenki cowardice, they buy it, they start to close the fold and over in the D-quad, the Voyager, seeing the fold collapse and they're like, no, our way home. Barclay, bales out in an escape pod. And I loved that they cut to the exterior of the ship
Starting point is 00:58:28 with the escape pod coming out. Me too. This is great. It looked awesome. They can't grab it with a tractor beam. It's left a little ambiguous whether a beam out works, but when we cut to the a-quad and the pod boinks into the Frankie ship,
Starting point is 00:58:43 they scan it and realize it's empty. No nanoprobes for these forangies. I mean, ambiguity creates tension here, and this was completely by the book, right? Yeah. Like, are they on there? Are they not? I like this moment. Very efficient.
Starting point is 00:58:59 I thought it was well done. It's like, it's sort of the same idea as the, we see the shuttle craft explode and then we cut to the transporter pad and everybody materializes just in time. Yeah. But a new take on that that I don't feel like we've seen in Star Trek before. Janeway's log tells us that seven's going to be all right, even though hollow fingers have stirred up her brains and that the Barclay hollow has been stirred up her brains, and that the Barclay Hollow has been deactivated. Ben, do you think that there would ever be a chance that the Barclay Hollow would be reactivated on the show at a later
Starting point is 00:59:36 date? Oh, man. Sounds like they're keeping them. Yeah, maybe they just are gonna drop them off at Daystrom when they get to the A-Quad. Oh, yeah. You think this is bad? A room full of awesome robots. I love it here. Not an organic to-be found. And the mess hall we get one of our final scenes, it's Harry Kim struggling to raise a fork of his mom's apple pie to his mouth when BLT and Paris sit with him and Kim is really
Starting point is 01:00:02 bumming about this. Harry Kim's mom is this your idea of apple pie? It looked very green to me. I haven't worked up the courage it tasted yet. It was like gelatinous. It was like the texture of like key lime, but with a crust on top. Yeah.
Starting point is 01:00:20 What? I'd fuck with that. I love apple pie. Apple pie may be the king of pies to me. It's a great pie. It seems like a weird variation. What do you envision it being? Like apple flavor encustered and then like green food dye?
Starting point is 01:00:36 Is it like apple starburst flavor? You know the more you describe this, the more revolting it becomes. Because I don't love apple candy flavor. And if this is apple candy flavor pie, then yeah, I get the reluctance to eat it. Harry seems to like it when he does finally take a bite. This would be the hardest thing about being so far away from home, right? Is the impossibility of enjoying the foods that you love? Yeah, yeah. It'd be hard.
Starting point is 01:01:09 It'd be a struggle. I mean, every time I'm overseas and I think about Mexican food, it takes me to go home immediately. I know. But also, don't you think they have to institute a no bits on trips home policy After this scene I would cosine that rule Totally so mean doing bits on a bummed guy especially yeah, leave the bummed guy alone Yeah a husband and wife team up prank on the saddest guy on the ship
Starting point is 01:01:47 I mean not only is he sad he's fucking gullible and they're like making fun of the idea that he is both sad and gullible. Yeah, I'm not that gullible. I'm all for getting roasted, you know? Sure. Roast me. If you know me, not if you're just a listener and I've never actually met you. Yeah.
Starting point is 01:01:59 So it's not to diminish our listeners. I just like, you know, only roast people that you know are like in the mood for it and on in the right frame of mind for it. I guess this is what gives Paris and BLT the license. Yeah, maybe. They know they can do this. Yeah.
Starting point is 01:02:16 And is that a little smile on Harry Kim's face? Yeah. Is he a nasty little roast freak? Yeah. I think he is You were right about him Back in the communication center Barkley actual is working Turn a little a few wrenches on Barkley who is now a fucking attack dog versus Troy when she walks in the room
Starting point is 01:02:41 Yikes the rest of Troy and Riker's vacation has been moved from Rysa to Tibberon, where they're inviting him out for like kind of a blind double date, like they have a friend that they want to set him up with. My name's Marl. You're going to adore her. Oh, this poor woman. I thought a lot about this, and I'm thinking maybe
Starting point is 01:03:03 they're doing this to get Marl off of their business, you know, tired of hanging out with Merrill as a three. Maybe it'll work between her and Barkley. Yeah. Yeah. Merrill probably not a con artist. According to them. Yeah. I can't be sure though. One can only hope. Can you be sure about whether or not you like this episode, Ben? You know, I'm maybe even to get along with post-reface time. But I don't like boating, I don't like friends, and I don't like you. I'm just joking. I do like this episode, Adam. I love playing with the tone of a character like this, you know.
Starting point is 01:03:42 You've always been a big Dwight Schultz guy. Love everything about the guy. I mean, I think that, you know, Star Trek and Family Matters are like two of the only shows that really give you opportunities to have one actor play the same character multiple different ways. Those are the only two I can think of. I always enjoy it when they do things like this.
Starting point is 01:04:03 And I thought the idea that somebody had snuck a mole into the Pathfinder initiative was such a great inventive idea, because it's not like they're not doing highly classified military research or anything. They're just trying to get voyager home, but some enterprising Ferengis thought of a way to make money off of that. Yeah. And of course, Starfleet isn't going to like always be on top of what motivates aliens like the Ferengis, because they're just so far from the mindset slash grind set that starfleet is in and
Starting point is 01:04:49 I don't know. I just really enjoyed it overall. How about you? I tend to reject stories where smart people act dumb in order to expedite a plot But I think this episode really works because it highlights that thing where hope is kind of the the perfect cheat code for that. Like when people are hopeful and maybe even desperate for something to be true, they look for reasons to make that true. And on and on throughout this episode, everyone kind of goes around their own instinct. You know, maybe Barclay gets their antenna up a little bit, but everyone's so hopeful that what he's saying is true.
Starting point is 01:05:36 I mean, this is like cult pathology, right? This guy isn't especially culty, but he's presenting an outcome that everyone desires so much, and they're willing to kind of suspend whatever safeties they've got in order to follow this guy through the plan, up to an including turning into a red paste from the radiation. So I thought this is an episode that really humanized, and I know the very term is racist. If you can only hear yourselves. It humanized a bunch of the crew in that way.
Starting point is 01:06:12 Like these are smart, capable people that really, really wanted this to be true. And I thought that's what fixed the essential problem that is so often a problem in stories like this is like people acting against their own interests or against their own intelligence. So yeah, I like to do that. Wow, well, do you wanna see if you like anything
Starting point is 01:06:32 about the priority one in box, Adam? As long as none of them follow me on vacation. Ha ha ha ha ha. Priority one message from Starfleet coming in on Secured Channel. Need a supplement only. supplement? supplement. supplement.
Starting point is 01:06:49 Yes, extra. The interest alone could be enough to buy this ship. Well, Adam, our first priority on message here is of a promotional nature. Goes like this. Did a scrambled message get half your bridge crew kidnapped on a fake slipstream ship? Did a bogus nun download your ship's database and use it to scam half the quadrant?
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Starting point is 01:07:56 It's a training app, that's great. Yeah, I mean, you can be certain of your own defenses, cybersecurity-wise, but if you're like working for a team, who the fuck knows what they're doing? And if they're being as careful as you are, something like this is gonna help. This sounds great. It sounds like somebody that works on the pistachio app is a friend of DeSoto also, so. Like that. You know that it's a quality app when that is true. Yeah. Ben our next priority when message is from Devon, it's to Ben and Adam that message goes
Starting point is 01:08:26 like this. Cocktailed on a rooftop in the biggest of easies, who should I see but Ben and Adam? She who is my wife assured me it was mostly okay to say hi and y'all were lovely as I clumsily asked for a pick. Spent the rest of the trip excited and a little embarrassed explaining who you were. Thanks for letting me intrude and look forward to the next Chicago show in 2025 question mark.
Starting point is 01:08:52 Hey, I remember Devon. Devon? VIRTZE TRIP What are you doing here? Yeah. This is while we were on that birthday trip for you in New Orleans. That was a fun, fun trip. And yeah, it was really, really,
Starting point is 01:09:09 fun to meet a friend of the Soto at the hotel pool. At the hotel we were staying at. My wife saw the lady that played share from the clueless TV show in that hotel over there. And she got like totally star struck. And I was like, you should have said something. Like she played Cher on a TV show in like the 90s. Like she should have asked Devon for tips
Starting point is 01:09:34 because Devon did it perfectly. Devon nailed it. Yeah. He was a perfectly pleasurable person to meet on a rooftop when I was only wearing swim trunks. Yeah, good job, Devon. Adam our last P1 is from Viper and it's to Iceman and it goes like this. Who could have guessed that being randomly forced into a surprise trivial pursuit play
Starting point is 01:09:57 date, which I won, thank you Mexico City. I a girl you were on a second date with would lead to two decades and counting of close friendship. Thanks for turning me in on to TGG, just one of the myrium interests we share. Happy 40th birthday, Iceman, Roller and Drop. I love that. Man. Love a long, long, long term relationship. Yeah, I wonder if that girl that was on the second date with is still in the picture.
Starting point is 01:10:33 Or if it's just Viper and Iceman now. I don't know. Maybe Viper had some good advice for Iceman about whoever that was. Yeah. Yeah. Hope so. Hey, here's some good advice. Support the greatest generation and greatest trek by doing a jumbo tron. That's the best advice there is.
Starting point is 01:10:51 You go to maximumfund.org slash jumbo tron. Type a couple of words. Have us read those words. Great way to support the shows. Indeed. Hey Ben, what's that Adam? Did you find yourself a drug Shimoda? I'm gonna give it to that one, perangie, that thinks that he's gonna spend all of his money that they make on the Nana probes on, on, uh, lobe enlargements. Yeah. Just I love hearing that audio drop lobe enlargement. It's got real they said the name of the movie and the movie energy. Yeah yeah. I thought I must have missed it in that episode where they catch up with
Starting point is 01:11:35 the Frankies that went through the wormhole in the TNG episode and turned themselves into lords on that on that planet. Yeah. I didn't know it was this late in the game, but what a line. And what a delivery on that line by that guy. They did a little bit of a camera move on them. Maybe it seemed very heroic. Love that. Just imagine being in a group of your friends
Starting point is 01:12:03 and your positive, your ship is coming in. You're about to get so much money and everybody's talking about what they're going to do with the money that is definitely about to hit the account and you're like, I'm getting my dick in big end. Brother, you just described sports gambling with me and my friends. One of the many reasons that's not really my world. Yeah. For me, it's going to be Commander Pete Harkins. Look, it is about time at your station, at your rank, you should be able to create an office environment that works for you. I don't understand this guy's deal.
Starting point is 01:12:45 I don't understand what he is getting in return for the many kindnesses that he shows barkly. You got to transfer barkly out of here because it's not just about Pete Harkins. It's about the entire staff. You know they're pissed. You think they like coming to work with this guy? I don't think so. I think they hate it. I don't think so either. Yeah. You notice nobody is
Starting point is 01:13:10 like right at the desk next to Barclay, you know. I think it's time to pit Barclay. And I think it's it's past time to do that actually. It sends a message. Wow. a message. Wow. Well, Adam, it is time for us to decide how we are going to do the next episode on Star Trek Voyager. It is going to be season 7, episode 7, body and soul. The doctor experiences physical sensations for the first time after seven downloads his matrix into her body. Why would she do that? I don't know. I'm guessing they'll explain that in the episode, but if they don't, that's just going
Starting point is 01:13:55 to strain credulity. I thought we were past this doctor pining over seven thing, like that was a nice clean break, not that long ago, where the doctors decided to let seven fly. And now he's going in. Now he's going up in them guts. Don't love that, Ben. I feel like I'm going to need to drink for that episode. Well, there is a chance, I mean there's always a chance at them.
Starting point is 01:14:25 We could hit the traveler space, which would rock at us forward five spaces. We could also hit a Nielix's Galley square, which would be a champagne a soda. Oh, I could live with those outcomes. You're required to learn as you play. Roll. I'm going to go and roll this bill and we're going from square 89, so we'll see what we hit. I rolled a one. Ooh.
Starting point is 01:14:53 I'm a rave! Landing us on that traveler and rocketing us to 95. I'm a traveler of all of space and time. Shut up Wesley. Regular episode next time. Wow. The traveler. The traveler! The traveler did it.
Starting point is 01:15:06 Knocked this up instead of down. Yeah. You know what I was thinking about with the traveler? His freakish hands? Well, he's a traveler of all space and time. You know who else was a traveler of all space and time? Your! He was your, wasn't it?
Starting point is 01:15:27 What? How can the traveler do it and it fucks your up? How close do you think the traveler has come to telling Wesley to just like experiment with a blurping out of here and like popping up in the center of a star? I'm sure you'll be fine. Your son has a destiny that is far greater than starfully can offer. Can you breathe in liquidic space? Give it a try. Hey, nerds! God, what a bummer. I mean, it's a bummer to think of the Traveler as a one-of-one type of person. It's got to be lonely.
Starting point is 01:16:10 But not this lonely. Well, he's friends with Gary Seven. Oh, yeah, I do like Gary Seven. Gary Seven was cool. Gary Seven episode had one of the great drops ever created for the show. Well, how do you expect me to type? How are your fingers? With my nails? One of the great drops ever created for the show. I just think that the the traveler should have taken some pity on you, you know? He's gotta have been aware of your... Had to have. I mean, and if you were a traveler of space and time, you could go undue what happened to your...
Starting point is 01:17:15 Save that guy's life! There should be a your square on the game of Bloodhalls that just puts us back to square one. I like that. I like it a lot. Maybe we could replace the tub one with that. You're always pitching that. You know, if we're on Square 95, that means not far away from a Mornhammered episode. And an area of the board that a friend of the soda suggested, like no matter what, going through means stopping and paying the toll of a power hour.
Starting point is 01:17:45 Yeah, we get it. I think it's high time. We made some tweaks to the board. Yeah. Is the time to do that? Maybe between series? Or do you want to make that sooner than that? I think we can make it. I think we can make it whenever we want. It's our game.
Starting point is 01:18:02 It's our game. All right. Let's, let's maybe bring some proposals to the Marin of the next episode. Ah, I like this. And maybe we can make some decisions at that point. How to make the game even more fun. Yeah, an upcoming Marin. Probably not next week's, but we need to give ourselves some time to prep this. It's true.
Starting point is 01:18:24 But an upcoming Marin, we should do some leg work on coming up with some ideas for other We're not next weeks, but we need to give ourselves some time to prep this. It's true. But an upcoming Marin, we should do some leg work on coming up with some ideas for other squares. Squares that we can add, squares we want to take away. A little spit shine on the game of buttholes. You know, the show's always getting better. You said it, dude. One of the reasons we want to make it better is the support we get from the friends of DeSoda, right?
Starting point is 01:18:49 Yeah. When our bosses are the people who listen to the show, they are the ones we want to serve. Yeah, Maximum Fund Outdoor Slash Joint is how you put us on your payroll. Yeah. Five bucks a month makes a big difference. Sure does. And, you know, thanks to everyone listening today, if you're listening day and day,
Starting point is 01:19:12 whether you celebrate Christmas or don't, we really, really appreciate you. Yeah, I hope you're keeping it Holly and Jolly. Yeah, I hope you have a nice winter holiday, whatever your holiday is. And we'll be back next week on New Year's Day, right? That's right. I think so. Yeah, that's the plan, dude.
Starting point is 01:19:36 We're gonna be nursing some FOD hangovers with that episode. Yeah, we'll try to like talk real quiet, so it doesn't... Yeah. So that bastard behind your it doesn't, you know, yeah. So that bastard behind your eyes doesn't go out of control. Wendy will put us through the NPR filter, make it very pleasant to get through, speaking of Wendy, one of the best in the business, she's our producer. Sure it is, she's the greatest, thanks Wendy, happy holidays. Gotta thank Anna Morgusia, who made the original Janeway song,
Starting point is 01:20:06 based on dark materials. The card song, go check out Adam Morgusia's great work over on YouTube and subscribe to the Adam Morgusia podcast, why don't you? Yeah, I won't regret that at all. How about we thank the great Bill Tilly, who runs our social media accounts, at greatest trek all over the place.
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