The Greatest Generation - Nebula MAN (VOY S1E5)

Episode Date: March 15, 2021

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Welcome to the greatest generation. The Star Trek podcast by a couple of guys. Just a little bit embarrassed about having a Star Trek podcast. I'm Adam Pryanaka. I'm Ben Harrison. It's a very special episode today, because we are doing a measure of a man episode. Yes. I meant to text you before we started recording. because we are doing a measure of a man episode. Yes, I meant to text you before we started recording. I don't think I've unpacked the box that has my challenge coins in it.

I have a couple of greatest gen challenge coins to my name, but I don't have one close at hand. Well, aren't you lucky that I have a desk set up replete with challenge coins? Wow, I've always thought of you as being very replete at them. I usually have a flat front desk, but lately I've been going with the desk replete with challenge coins. Oh boy, it's a little bit more complicated to iron a desk like that.

Is it worth it? I'll take my desk to a dry cleaner in cases like these. Ben, I have so many coins on my desk. Don't tell any strangers about the riches I have on my desk. I'm gonna grab the friendly fire challenge coin. Yeah. To flip. Oh boy, wow!

I didn't get one of those. Oh, you better, Ben, because once they're gone, they're gone. Yeah. That's a podcast that used to exist, but doesn't any more. Yeah, and I feel like this coin is perfect to create an argument between you and me about whether or not something we're about to do is a good idea. So I would push back on it lightly, and that the end of friendly fire

was not an argument between the two of us, we knew what we had to do. Oh yeah. We were in complete agreement. And then it was done to us without our consent. Super fun memories, Ben. I'm just gonna think of the good times. All right, Ben, we've got heads as the B17 bomber. And for tails, we have the catch phrase, coined by you to the victor go the spoiler alerts. I think that you should just say, one side of the coin is pro and one side is con. You're gonna flip it and it's gonna assign my position.

We'll do it like that. All right, are you ready? Yeah. So is the bomber is pro? Bomber is pro. Okay. Screen is con. That was a properly formatted coin flip.

I'm gonna take my hand from the top of my other hand. Oh, the people watching the livestream are going crazy right now. They wanna see what the result is. You ready? This. Oh, it's it. So I am pro the cloud.

Of course you are. And you are anti. Yeah, old man yells at the cloud. Oh boy. And you are anti. Yeah, old man yells at the cloud. Hahaha. Oh boy. I see you just popped a bottle. That looks like an agave spirit that you opened up. Sure is, Ben.

Something awful has happened in our household. And that is we're out of tequila. Oh boy. That's devastating. So it's mezzcalcal for me for the foreseeable until I order more tequila. You and your wife have been drinking quite a few marks lately I feel like. Yeah really taking those to the dome lately as you do. What mezcal are you taking to the dome in in place of tequila today? I've got a

bottle of tozba dobala. Wow. I think this is a bottle that I got with you or from you as Most of my mezcal's are doesn't look familiar, but but I believe you you can have a drink for this one Yeah, I've got a glass of hard cider here. You wanted an agave spirit. Well there it sits and a Gave spirit, well there it sits. Let's get into it Adam, it's season one, episode five, great episode, the cloud. Revert course. Unless you've got something a little bigger in your torpedo toots, I'm not turning around. This is the worst episode of Smebke's voyage wrap ever seen. I've only seen five of them. This is by far the worst. Well, it's a real high-wire mark, in my opinion.

Captain Janeway opens with a personal log where she finally starts to come to grips with how her actions may have affected others in the workplace. Taken five episodes, but we're finally here. Yeah. It seems like she and the rest of the crew are kind of reaching the acceptance phase of the Kubler Ross model of being stranded in the Delta Quadrant. I mean, she's the boss walking around a workplace and she's feeling a little hurt at what an outsider she is as the boss. Heavy-wise the crown and this is her grappling with an issue that I feel like was very much present

for Picard and maybe less so Cisco which is that that feeling of like if you are the commander of a ship you have to be willing to send people to their deaths. You have a huge amount of responsibility and there's a kind of advantage in maintaining a little distance in being larger than life and I really love the humility of a captain's log that features the editing process. We hear her delete a line. I've never trusted Klinghouch and I never will. We should have the warp drive up and running by oh 900 hours. Computer, delete last sentence. This is a feedlot owner not wanting to name their cows.

She's looking all around at these pre-dead people. That's all she sees when she looks around. And now? Dead blonde, dead blonde, dead red head, dead brunette. Before she goes and edits her own log, her conclusion goes something like, it may be time for her to change her ways for the benefit of the crew.

Yeah. She might have to become cool. This is something that even her crew are aware of. She walks into the mess hall and she and Tom Paris and Kim stand around like dunking on Nielix's cooking for a couple of minutes before she kind of takes her leave. And Harry Kim is like,

oh, we should have asked her to sit with us. And Tom Paris is like, you fucking teacher's pet, what are you talking? That's the captain. You don't ask the captain to sit down in the lunch room. Are they sitting side-saddle? They're doing a side-sid.

They're doing a side-sid, aren't they? Yeah. You're making too much about a side-sid. I don't know if I'm the captain and I come into the mess hall and I see two employees side-sidding. I don't know if that's a party I want to break up. I don't want to sit third in a side-sid situation. Well, it's very intimate. Third in a side-sid is awkward, because in a side-sit situation. Well, it's very intimate.

Third in a side-sit is awkward, because often the side-sitter has pulled their chair around to the side of the table. It's usually a two-top that a side-sit takes place at. So you're going to have to try and find another available chair, like look around the dining room, say, are you expecting someone, or can I take this? There's a very fun composition here when Janeway walks off to the breakfast buffet in the background and you get like a Three shot here of like Kim and Paris and then in the deep deep background There's a captain Janeway working to make your own waffle iron back there

or in the batter doing the business. I I'm tired back there. You're in the batter, doing the business. I love the idea that Nielix is terrible at cooking and that he's making everybody a little bit sick. Do you think that the crew has been forcibly made vegetarian slash vegan because of their need to conserve energy resources and they're just using hydroponic shit to eat.

It kind of seems that way, right? I mean, they would have to. They haven't like stopped at a planet and like killed a bunch of animals, have they? No. But remember when... If you eat a shidapal, are you not vegan anymore? Ha ha ha ha.

That is technically a byproduct of a living creature, right? Are shit apples kosher? If the host of Star Trek and the Jews are listening, have Adam on. He has questions. Neal time is always interesting now that Neal exists in the kitchen. They're having to conserve replicator resources with the making of food, but those replicators are working over drive to reproduce emotiums, which are just shooting out of the replicators are working over drive to reproduce a modium which are just shooting out of the replicators at Starfleet's before they clock in for their shifts. Yeah, it's like hitting the jackpot on a slot machine.

Janeway is poking around for a cup of coffee here in the mess hall and is having no luck finding any because they are out. My culture finds that to be irreprehensible and entirely unacceptable act. And she floats the idea to Nielix of using one of her replicator rations to make herself a cup of coffee and he firmly shuts her down. That would not be appropriate, Captain. I don't have the freedom to kill you.

I love the tone of this in the context of the Captain's log we just heard where she's like thinking about trying to like be a little bit more down to earth and relatable with her crew. And then the second meelix is a little bit out of line in terms of ship hierarchy. She's used to getting her groceries from insert name of premium grocery store here. Errol one. Yeah, she's not about to go down to Ralph's or whatever.

Right. For her produce. Yeah. This coffee that Felix pours her is straight out of a peltser brand coffee maker. It is pretty gross stuff. Yeah. If you like your coffee thick go to helixes. It's kind of a canar level of thickness, right? It looks like it may be

the same like stunt material that they make canar out of. What's the thickest coffee you've ever had? I've had like Turkish coffee in that's the best. In like a Mediterranean restaurant where it's like it's almost like you're drinking like grounds that are suspended in water. Yeah, it's incredible stuff. Yeah. Ethiopian coffee is a lot a lot like that. The high you get off of a Turkish coffee. I'm still chasing that dragon. God, that That shit fucking slaps. Yeah, ECopian coffee is very similar to that and delicious. Speaking of drinking, Ben, is Ensen Kim drinking

his breakfast beverage from a metal juulip cup? Like he's at the fucking Kentucky Derby. What is he doing? I don't know, those glasses never really caught my eye. They do look like something that came from the Pasadena flea market, not the space restaurant supply company. I love the idea that Ensign Kim might just have a favorite cup, and that's what it is. He prefers to drink out of his juulip cup at all times.

Do he and Tom not have the same type of cup? I didn't notice. I didn't notice that Paris was drinking out of the same vessel. This seemed like a very Kim specific thing, but well, no. This is just the kind of minutia that the greatest generation is all about. Yeah, Star Trek cup cast has officially begun. This is a fun out from this scene

because Chico Te radio is Janeway and before he even says anything about the reason for his message, Janeway is getting the fuck out. Yeah, saved by the bell. She dodges the bullet of the disgusting beverage that Nielix is trying to pour her and heads up to the bridge where she is informed that they've passed they're passing a nebula. Nebula has a lot of amicron particles and those could be used to supplement their failing energy systems and therefore increase the amount of

replicator use that they can afford to do. So she's really excited about this very famous line here. There's coffee in that nebula. I love the potential here. You can turn amacrons into coffee grounds or beans or whatever you use to make coffee. I'm still not sure how a person makes coffee. This far into the pandemic and you're still not sure. Breakfast is done at this point because Kim and Paris have arrived for their shift. And it's real soda voce like Janeway asks, Chico Tei, how the crew is. How they doing?

They're right? I'm kind of hearing some whispers when I walk into and out of places. This conversation goes on for a really long time. It's incredible how long this moment is, and knowing what we know about the construction of the Chico-te character, there's probably a sincerity that one watches this episode with without having that prior knowledge that's like, wow, that's cool. Like, this is a type of person being represented. I don't know whether or not this is true or bullshit, but I'm willing to go along with it.

We talk to animals. I think that that's why it's considered to be kind of harmful is that most viewers are probably not going to verify the information that they're receiving here. This is the scene that makes me certain that this is a terrible episode. And it's why I'm totally blown away that you think it's so good.

How dare you, Ben. I think this is a product of its time. And I think that art like this is important to revisit because it's something we can learn from. Like, not only is the stuff that they put in the... Oh, you! Take out this mouth here. You know... I can't outvert you! Take out those mouth here.

That I can't outvert you signal avert you signaler. Just not possible. You fucking judoed me into the ground. But I do think that there is an element of condescension in the way that Janeway asks the questions also that kind of squicked me out. Really? I didn't get the condescension. What I definitely got was like, Chico Tei can't tell Janeway what his TM mantra is

because that's something he paid thousands of dollars for. It's a Native American tradition. It seems like that kind of vibe, like I could tell you what your animal guide is, but you know, you kind of have to pay me a sum of money or replicate a rations. Yeah, that's it. To find that out.

There's a three day course that I teach, and it's 500 bucks. Right. And then at the very end, he offers to helper. And this is like, I think this is me creeping into my opinion of the episode. Like, baseline distrust, anyone who is so quick to teach me a thing about a thing.

Like, I feel like Janeway's getting conned here. The thing I kept wondering, I'm like, I watching this episode really felt complicated about the amount of this C storyline there is, but I also just watched this scene and was like, if you were Paris or anybody else on the bridge and the captain and the commander were just whispering to each other for this long. I would hate that so much.

Wouldn't you just be going crazy? It's happening behind Paris too, which is like the worst. I already, Loki, if I hear anyone laugh in my presence, and I think they're laughing at me in the bathroom. That's the automaticest. Yeah. And they are laughing. They are having a very joyful banter the way they're talking to each other.

Boy, we really get rid of the distrust between the make-weez and the star fleets. Kind of suddenly, didn't we? I mean, I think that it's probably there in the lower ranks for sure, but Chicoete and the captain love each other. This feels downright flirtatious to co-stuff of your description there, Ben. I feel like Chicoete is making the case for the Seacue Cumber. You know, Seac cumbers are very... I'm neverus. Sexually. That's great pocket time.

Not that you're spirit animal defines who you are as a person. I'm just saying. Good. You can pull it up. Harry Kim, as they're flying into this nebula, gets dragged so hard by TuVak. He's like, wow, what a cool nebula. I've never seen one like this before,

and TuVac goes on radio. Like he like sidetrats him on slack almost, and says like, hey Harry, try and keep a lid on being in awe of space and its beauty, because it's gonna freak out the junior officers. And my question to you is Adam, who are the junior officers? Harry Kim is an ensign.

Are there people of lower rank than that who are considered officers? He's the juniorist officer there is. I mean, this episode is trash. The coin has told me. So, but this scene is hilarious to me. I love, this is like sight to sight transport in some ways. Like the idea of using your communicator in the same scene

is super fun. I love the way they do it with the audio too. Like, it's not really commented on so much as just, you can see what is happening based on the fact that they use a wide shot or two lock as deep in the background, talking to Kim at a tone of voice that they use a wide shot or two lock as deep in the background, talking to Kim at a tone of voice that he would have to use if they were like standing right next to each other.

David Livingston directs this episode as he's directed 50 episodes of Star Trek, and this is such a good hands. We're in great hands with him. It's such great blocking. There's also the appearance of a split diopter in the scene, which is like fucking greatest gen cat nip. I love it. So they scan this nebula. It's like, yeah, this is an unremarkable nebula, but it does have these Omicron particles in it. When you get your nebula examined, you want it to come back unremarkable what you don't want is what is it? What is the ABC of of nebula like you don't want asymmetry?

Right, you don't want blackish hue. You don't want convex right? Do not take medical advice from your stomach like podcast Is that something to do with like moles or something? Yeah, that's what I'm trying to recall, but I don't have any of that recall. Yeah, as a person that's got some moles and a dad who's had a few removed because they turned cancerous, I should probably know that stuff.

All right, the ABC DEs of moles are these. Ben, are you ready? A symmetrical shape, border, color, diameter, and evolving. So if you notice any of these changes, you need to schedule an appointment with your medical provider. Yeah. I mean, I love this episode just for giving us that moment,

Adam. I think the greatest generation is known for a couple of things. One, being a terrible Star Trek podcast, replete with Dick and Fart jokes. The other is that we are known for giving viable medical advice. Yeah, yeah. You can count on us.

I would say that listening to the greatest generation is better than having a one-on-one consultation with a dermatologist. That's right. And if you're looking at the live feed right now, it's exactly the same. You can see that we have our shirts off and we are showing you our moles close up in the cameras.

All of my moles are asymmetrical. Nothing our shields can't handle. They penetrate an energy barrier and they just don't understand what they see on the other side. And TuVoc tells the captain he has no idea what they're looking at. And I love that Kim flips TuVoc's shit right back at him. This episode establishes a quality to start trek that has been there the whole time hiding in plain sight, which is, I don't know what that thing is.

Let's go inside. Let's get inside that mystery. Let's get all up in it. Let's put our entire self inside it. And you don't realize it right now, like how destructive that way of being is in Star Trek. You don't get it until later, but that's their first instinct. Let's get in there. It's a real bulldog in a bathtub.

So they go in, and the dust in there is getting pretty thick. It gets thick enough to resist their penetration, Ben, and I'm telling you, if your penetration has been thwarted by the thickness, I think you need to withdraw and consider maybe adding a lubricant of some kind. Yeah, or, you know, or this penetration being treated as like the all-important element of their space exploration is kind of a misnomer. I think that you can have a perfectly fun space exploration without penetration. There's a moment here where like, they're starting, they're starting to penetrate to the extent

that there are bangers being dropped on them that's slowing the depth of their penetration. And they cut to Paris here. Paris is station as a bench seat, doesn't it? Like from a classic car. Yeah. He's on one end of the station and he slides over and his slide is like three feet long.

Yeah, I think his seat must be on like a swivel or something, but I love the way the camera works. He's not swiveling, Ben. He's sliding. He's scooting. Yes. Oh, nice. You can hear the vinyl squeak that he moves over. It makes a fart noise and he says, that's the seat. That wasn't me. That was the seat. You know, on the hot days on the bridge, you'd want to put a towel down at Paris's station just so your thighs don't... If you weren't a scant and you sit down at Paris's station, your thighs will stick right to that vinyl. It's no good.

They pushed through this energy barrier and we got down to the the mess hall where Nielix is starting to express some real buyers remorse about throwing in with these people, which I thought was so great. Like I think that Nelix being afraid of being inside a nebula is a very funny character detail, but also the idea that like he would rethink his decision to go with over and over again was so realistic. Like of course every week this ship is in new danger. This is their fifth episode and their second death-defying Nebula experience. Nielix is making the case against Star Trek here.

He would rather the show be about nothing. Yeah, right. That's a case that our buddy Manusadia makes that like in a utopian future future like it would be kind of a You have to be kind of a misfit to be in Starfleet because your life would be so easy Like you could literally do whatever you want to be like the kind of person that wants to go Get sucked into wormholes all all the time and like live in constant danger Manu has a lot of opinions that I don't agree with

and like live in constant danger. Manu has a lot of opinions that I don't agree with. But it is like, it is kind of like an anti-social choice that these people have made. And Nielix is kind of more of a normal, I think. That's super true. Like how much greater is the distance the Voyager crew has traveled to end up here, you know, psychologically,

than the decision to join Starfleet at all. Right, this is a possible outcome of joining Starfleet that everybody has to be conscious of when they do it. Anytime a queue snaps his fingers, you can be flung across space in a second, and you're never getting home. Yeah, and space is rotten with queues. Kesk kisses Nelix at the end of this scene,

which may be the first instance of a public display of affection between them. Why does she do that? She's trying to suck her lung back out of him. It's probably, let's put our lungs together. Let's make a working respiratory system. Yeah. I think this is a scene meant to tell us the viewer that they're an item.

Yeah. It's interesting that it hasn't been spoken quite explicitly. I mean, like, Nielix was jealous of Cass in the previous episode, but I don't think that they gave a board as like husband and wife or boyfriend and girlfriend in, you know, like I don't think that we necessarily understood like what the terms of that relationship are, or if, you know,

those, the terms of their relationship, like would comport with something we understand, right? I mean, having shared a respiratory system, they're now closer than friends, closer than family. And Kess will let one of her lungs go. Yeah. That is now your chair. I'm just ruining my own show here.

You're going to be the one editing this and resenting every moment of it. I feel like Nielix with his choice of Chef's hat is like telling everyone how little he wants to be there and how little he should be taken seriously as a food service professional. When I make a case idea, I use two different types of cheeses. I mean, it's hard to take him this seriously because when we left the bridge, we are like trapped in this weird nebula that is not what we expected it to be. And when we cut back to the bridge, it's still like red alert trying to escape from this nightmare scenario that we did not imagine we would find ourselves in.

And the level of threat to the ship just Just, it is so hard to like, imagine writing a script where you get a plausible moment down on a lower deck where two people are just like, yeah, what do you think? Like, maybe we made a mistake coming with these guys. I really love the visual language of this scene and how it telegraphs what happens later,

because like, at the time, it's like, oh, these are lava lamp globules outside the window. Isn't that interesting? How they're kind of flying toward the ship? But this is interspace shit. This is what blood cells look like when you're up close. It's visually telling us everything we need to know

that we find out later. They came in here looking for energy, and now they realize they're going to have to burn energy to get out, and the energy that they came here for is not as available and abundant as they had hoped. And that not only are they burning energy, but they also have to burn a photon, which they have, I think he says they have 38 photons,

and no way to rearm if they run out. That statistic blew my mind. 38. 38. That's it. That means everyone else who dies is just getting ground up into a slurry and then at least out the back, right? Do you think in season seven, they're like bearing down on a starship. They've been chasing at some point and Janeway gets on the view screen and is like, now in all this excitement,

I kind of lost track. Have I shot 37 photon torpedoes or 38? So I guess I have to ask you one question. Do you feel lucky? Well, do ya? Punk! I love that there's like a low-level Engineer on the ship tasked with turning Neelix's sterno into

into torpedo weaponry Like it's a real magroober situation. He's like trying to make explosives out of household materials So they shoot one of these 38 torpedoes at the wall of this thing there inside and then chase it through. Yeah. And the plan works. They make it out. And at the end of the scene, Captain Janeway orders the shit scraped off the ship for Belonotora's to study. If anyone could just go out there with a nice scraper and put some samples into some jars, that'd be great.

Yeah. I'd like to know what it was that humbled every defense system on this ship. I mean, that was kind of an amazing idea right there, right? Like, this was an ebbule that left goo all over the ship. You know, I got real, like like 10 man vibes from this app. 10 maw. And this was one of the moments where cutting to the exterior would have been really nice.

All we see is inside out. We don't see outside in when it comes to these globules. Do you know whether they're shooting models or doing renderings on this show? The thing with renderings happened on Deep Space 9 in the very last seasons in like 97, 98, right? And this being 95, I think we're still using models. It might have been too hard to like make an entire new voyage

or model that's got goo all over it. Yeah. Ben, would you like a C story? Are you hungry for a C story? See, I had this as the B story and the Native American vision quest stuff as the C. Oh, now I'm pushing the Chico de Story deeper underwater until the bubble stop. The B story can breathe. The B story occurs between Paris and Kim. It occurs

at Kim because he's woken up by Paris. Yeah. Pretty creepy that Paris is able to get into Kim's room, something that Kim comments on, which I guess is something that has been fixed with Starfleet ships since the Enterprise D rolled off the assembly line It feels like a Sloan watches you jack off kind of situation here When Paris enters Kim's quarters. I mean if Kim jacks up with a with an iMask on that's that's pretty remarkable You're an iMask man. You ever wear the mask when you jack it? I don't think I would feel secure or comfortable doing that. That's how you edge into that dangerous territory, like where it's the danger that's the

titillation, huh? Well, you've famously never masturbated wearing headphones. No. Yeah, that was a technology that you hipped me to. And now, now you have to. Yeah, here in this pandemic world, you were prepared for the pandemic masturbatorially. I think that masturbating with headphones and an eye mask is basically the most dangerous thing I can possibly imagine. That's the most dangerous game. Forget hunting human beings. They need to remake that movie

with iced tea. I would be pissed if my friend came over and I was already asleep in bed and was like, hey, come out and drink with me in a bar. Here's the thing about this scene. Like we're given so much runway that assumes a Paris and Kim friendship here that we're very easy to forgive the B&E that that Paris did in order to get into Kim's quarters. But I think Kim could credibly be very upset by this and he's just not. Yeah. He's just gentle.

He's an easygoing guy. I mean, I've, I feel like something that we have both learned recently is that sometimes the, the person that steps over the line repeatedly steps over the line before you realize that that is something that you're going to have to do something about. Right. Kim may be the frog in the, in the slowly boiling water, right? Right. It doesn't even know it yet.

He could be the frog in the slowly boiling mother's womb as it were because he's dropping some science on Tom Paris about like how he sleeps with an eye mask because it reminds him of the womb. Is that why you wear an eye mask, Ben? Does it help you jack off? You can't get up over the top unless you think about being in your mother's womb. You sick fuck. I have to hold the thought.

You sick fuck Larry. I have to hold the thought of my being in my mother's womb and a guy from section 31 sitting at the foot of my bed watching me simultaneously. Here's a piece of greatest gen merch. We need to make a ceiling cat, but instead of ceiling cat it's Sloan We've got it online store. There's nothing snapin us. Nothing's dappin us at all. Let's do it. We'll make it a sticker A sticker that is designed to permanently adhere to the ceiling of your bedroom That way you have your future masturbatory sessions will be

replete with voyeurism. Today we're stripping off layers of wallpaper, and we've discovered something kind of interesting. This stick had been sold over 40 years ago to fans of a terrible stature, I can't... ... ... ... God, I hope this whole is still PBS 40 years from now. Oh, God.

I'm Robo Kevin O'Hanna, and I'm Shipeboard Charcil. It's really the classic artificial intelligence limit. And I'm Shai Bork, Josh Silver. Hahaha. Hahaha. It's really the classic artificial intelligence limit. Hahaha. Who is this for? It's for us. Hahaha. Fuck it, Black.

Make it yourself. I'm trying to help you see this as an opportunity to grow. Make it yourself. So anyways, Tom Paris has see this as an opportunity to grow. Make it yourself. So anyways, Tom Paris has programmed up himself a bar that he used to hang out in Marseille, France. I think it's Sheson Dreen. It's a pool bar. It kind of felt more like an English pub

than a French bar to me, in terms of like, that is so Benjamin R. Harris and his observation. I mean, I'm just saying like the design of the set. The color of the pool table fell is is more English bar to me. But I mean, they'd be playing snooker if it was England, right? Like it wouldn't be a pool table. It's a sort of place that shoots their cider across the room. I'm into it. I mean, I am drinking a French cider today.

Paris invites Kim into his hollow jack shack with a degree of comfort that I never could, because as soon as they enter, the proprietor of Sundrains comes right up to him. Ricky, like, wait till you hear the story of Ricky, comes up to Paris. Like, there are women just throwing panties at Tom Paris and Kim just has to watch. It is an extremely horny environment. There's no way that this is not a sex program. No, not at all.

And Kim, right away, like from jump, not entirely comfortable here. I'm trying to get in the mood, huh? Sorry. To the extent that he does not want to drink a beverage that would intoxicate him, I think he knows because this is like some sort of sex trap thing. He orders a tea, but very Christ-like, Talamparis turns his tea into wine, kind of a version

of Jesus' magic. So do hollow wines, not like, is it turned into nothing when it hits your lip? Because the problem at the beginning of this episode is they can't replicate coffee because it's too energetically intensive, but you can run the hologram. This is one of the main reasons this episode sucks is because if you're trying to conserve energy, what are you doing, making billiard balls,

and hollow wine, and the holodeck for Tom Paris? However, he does say, can't get you drunk because it's a hologram. So it must just be that like to make like physical matter that is, that has permanence, is a totally different thing than making a hologram. Do you think there are people with eating disorders who go into the holodeck and eat hollow food and then leave after feeling the satisfaction of that kind of consumption? I wonder, yeah. That's got gotta be a start trick thing, right?

Yeah, because I was wondering like, what it would do to your mind if you kept taking a sip of a glass and then didn't get any of the like, refreshment or other qualities of having the drink flow into your belly. Like, would it cause like so much cognitive dissonance that you would hate it? If you ate a whole bowl of linguine and clams,

and then you got up to leave the holodeck, would your breath not smell as soon as you left? We've seen snowballs fly out of the holodeck and get people wet, but we've also seen hollow characters walk out of the holodeck and disappear. There are still a number of continuity questions yet to answer here. And this episode does not answer them. It doesn't need to answer them. It's an early season episode. We've got seven seasons to worry about things like this.

So Belonatoris has taken the scrapings from the exterior of the ship and put them into a kind of spinner machine from the movie Outbreak. And she does not like what she sees in this little test tube. She has to take it over to Six Bay to get condescended to by the doctor. Yeah, the EMH is, you know, if his bedside manner is bad, his, uh, his like demeanor when conferring with a colleague is even worse.

And, uh, he really stares down his nose at Blanatoras, who has figured out some things, but not other things about this sample. I need a second opinion on this. Who gave you the first opinion? I gave it to myself. And I feel like this scene also kind of leaves us in the dark, right?

Like there's a lot of techno babble that is unresolved until later. Yeah, it's a real tease. I like that about it. Meanwhile, Ticote meets with Janeway with his medicine bundle, which looks a little too much like a bifurcated mogwai in his hands. It looks like the corpse of Gizmo. Reminded me we're calling this the F storyline.

Yeah, this is deep, deep, deep. You can click forward 30 a couple of times on this scene, I think. Yeah, this scene went on way longer than I expected. And I think way longer than Janeway expected, too. Like, she's sitting there like working and he's like, hey, so we're going to go on a fishing quest now. And she's like, what? And he's like, yeah, come over here.

I love that Chicoate is like, we used to do psychedelics, but now we use crystals. They have like an ayahuasca device. Yeah. Place your hand on it and concentrate on the stone. I wonder about that. So you're going to have the captain have a dissociative hallucinatory experience. Like while you're kind of in a crisis, I guess it's not really a crisis because they've

escaped the nebula. They should have carried forward this tension of Mayquise versus Starfleet up to this point, because if this scene is imbued with any kind of, you know, Chicote wanted to be captain of the ship, how neat of a subtext would that be here? Yeah, the she is. The dragon is captain. She is like intellectually compromised for a moment and yeah, and is building trust with her in a way that could feel like menacing or something right It's unfortunate that this episode chooses against tension in that way This is a scene a lot like the scene before on the bridge

Which is like is it interesting in any way in the way that it's intending to be? I wonder how many more of these scenes we're gonna get in the series ahead that unintentionally are going to crater otherwise good episodes. You know? Yeah, how do we even talk about moments like this? Like maybe the way to get around it is just to treat him as a...

He is to a human culture what a made up alien species is, you know? Like... Yeah. I don't want to feel like we're what a made up alien species is. Like, I don't want to feel like we're letting them off the hook either. And that's the tension. Can we treat Chicoate as an alien while still calling attention to the fucked upness of his character construction? I just don't know how we do that.

And we're going to get this episode after episode, I feel like. Yeah, it's going to be tough, but I think the fact that it is tough is not our fault. You know what, I'm pretty fucking tired of that theme in my life, TVH. Yeah, this has been a year of that. So Chico Te is like, look, I can't tell you what your animal guide is. I can't tell you what my animal guide is. I don't want you to tell me what your animal guide is. Your animal guide, I shouldn't understand.

Your animal guide, I couldn't understand. Your animal guide, I wouldn't understand. Your animal guide is a loner, a rebel. So after touching the stone Captain Janeway is transported to a scene lit with nothing but CTO gels where she's on a beach and she encounters a little gecko on the rock. She doesn't say there's a gecko there but that's the first animal she sees and that's the rule. When you touch the rock and you go to a place, first animal is your animal guide.

It's so fucking obnoxious that it tries to sell her car insurance too. It's just inescapable. I didn't expect a brand integration in this episode. You can't even enjoy a hang in your backyard anymore without a fucking plane flying over. It's like, I would get your car insurance, but I'm pretty sure that 90% of my money would be going toward you advertising it at me more. You know what, the line must be drawn here, Ben.

I'll never do a greatest gen ad, Frickico Insurance. Wow. Not gonna happen. I mean, they're not offering us ads, but we're also not taking them. Yeah, yeah, forget that. I mean, this experience is interrupted by Torres ringing the doorbell.

Yeah. And Chicoote covers up his stash like it's his fucking works. He says that he's never showed it to anybody. But Torres knows what this is, because she's been on the same quest. Yeah. She tried to kind of mimic the experience of the Klingons killing their gods by killing her own animal guide. I think this would have been a much better episode if Janeway wasn't doing this and Torres

was. Yeah. I want to see that. Don't tell us about the more exciting storyline we didn't get. Yeah, that's not good storytelling. Anyways, this nebula is not a nebula, it turns out. It's actually an animal. When they punctured through that energy barrier,

they were actually basically goring it, and it is now bleeding all macron blood out into space. It's a nebula man. It is. And so they have a big McLaughlin group on the bridge actually, where basically all hands on deck, including the doctor who's on FaceTime, and they're talking about the idea of kind of stitching up

this hole that they made in the nebula, and they feel kind of honor bound to do that. They didn't intend to injure this space creature, and now that we got to do space surgery. I always love these compositions in TNG when you were like back behind the horseshoe at the science station or the engineering station and shooting back toward the bridge to give it that depth. Bridge looks fucking enormous here. It does. The doctor on the screen in the background, it's super fun. It seems like it's a smaller set than TNG but it's, they shoot it on a wide-ass lens, so the doctor is like very far back in the frame.

And there's at one point where he's like not getting paid attention to, and he's like waving his hands over his head. Very funny. Any ideas how we could stimulate regeneration? Lieutenant Torres has the answer. So there's been a degree of chafing inside Nebula Man that requires the reentry of the ship. This plan is presented and approved almost immediately. We're going back in to fix what we broke. Some starfleet ass shit, so they start heading back in.

This is precisely what Nelix had hoped to avoid. And he storms up to the bridge to give the captain a piece of his mind on this. It's always been amazing how on Starfleet ships anyone could just enter the bridge. It's not like when you go to a fancy high rise apartment or whatever, you can't just hit pH on the elevator and get there. And there's a key.

There's a key next to that button. Right, but anyone like from Wesley Crusher all the way up to Nelix can enter the bridge of a Federation starship unchallenged. Can we see the battle bridge? No, I'm afraid not. Yeah, Janeway really captains the hell out of him in a way that I found very satisfying.

Yeah, he shouldn't be there. He shouldn't have been able to just walk into the ready room, unannounced, and start piping off at her the way he does. But the way she is like, she is shutting him down in the process of like being distracted by the real work she's actually paying attention to is great. Janeway is like, if you don't like Star Trek, don't watch Star Trek. We can't just drop you off outside of Star Trek every time we have a Star Trek. Yeah, this is Star Trek. If you don't like it, perhaps you would prefer Babylon 5

or sequestia's V, but. Those are your only choices. So they go back in, Ben. And things are working this time until the war-flightening starts zapping them. Like that initial moment of, hey, this feels pretty good. Devolves into, this is extremely painful and bad. Yeah, the kind of like defense mechanisms of this creature,

the white blood cells of the nebula attack the ship. The kind of pain that merits a long bath, almost immediately. Yeah, so they get knocked out. They realize that anything they do thruster or impulse engine wise is really causing this thing to react badly against them. And they're now both further into the nebula,

but also further away from the hole that they're trying to repair. And so they come up with this idea that there's these flows of Omicron particles running through the creature that seem to be like circulatory system analogous, and they can maybe kind of float back to the point that they're trying to get to on one of these eddy currents. Nebula Man has kind of a lazy river inside him that the ship could just coast on. Chico deas pumping up an inner tube for them. It sounds very enjoyable. Yeah. You get a six-pack of freshable beers floating in the Omicron particles next to you.

You know, uh, you know the MGM Grand in Vegas has a lazy river as part of its pool. No way! It's fucking great, man. Wow! This Vegas so much. But like, that's one aspect to it. It's like a lazy river that takes 40 minutes to circumnavigate.

Ha ha ha ha haate. That's great. Next time we're in Star Trek Las Vegas, we should do like a friends of the sodo lazy river hang. I cannot wait to blow up the spot at Star Trek Las Vegas, which is definitely not happening this year, even though they say it is. I mean, wouldn't you be very surprised? I don't know what to think, man.

I feel like I want to like have hope for the future, but I also don't want to have that hope dash. I don't want to I don't have undue hope. I'm reading that Starcher Glacier Vegas is set for August 11th through the 15th of this year. That seems if I were betting. Yeah, and you are a betting man. That feels like the line of when people are probably going to start traveling again, August. But like Vegas has been open this entire time too, so they may just be like, fuck it, we're doing it. That is a trip I'm not going to decide on until August 1st. I'll say that.

I'm not going to free book that. And I don't know if you're a convention how you can like imagine being a convention company putting this out on the on the map and going like, are you counting ticket sales right now? How could you possibly? Who knows? I'm just hoping to have a haircut by then. I've gone a year without a haircut. This is one year.

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I don't get paid to say that. It's just what I believe. There's an interesting moment here, where after they get zapped with the lightning, that Ensign Kim calls out the damage in the form of a damage report. And Chicoet kicks him right in the balls about this. We seem to be in one piece.

I believe the optical data network is down, Ensign. I'll get right on it. Like, he botches the description of the damage. Yeah. And then it is never referred to again. What is that about? It was just the subtle moment. Like, I think that we know that Ensign Kim is kind of referred to again. What is that about? It was just the subtle moment. I think that we know that Ensen Kim is kind of new to this, and he is, I mean, he's a

senior officer. We've established in this episode, but he's also green. And I thought that that was just like a little character moment of, remember that this guy doesn't have a million reps the way some of these other characters do. This is a moment that should have invited another soda voce with Chicote and Jane Weaver, where Chicote is like, would you get a fucking load of this guy?

It's only we don't have 10 fucking make-weas on the lower decks that could do his fucking job. This is also a part of the episode, the kind of moment between Act 2 and Act 3, where Nielix comes onto the bridge with some past appetizers. I like this scene a lot in an episode that I hate. I like this scene a lot too, because it's one of the many things that typifies what a good episode it is, Adam.

Love a plated appetizer. Love the circulation of them. Yeah, he and Kess got trays and brought them up here. It looks like good stuff. The captain even tastes something, right? Sometimes it's nice to have a snack during red alert. You want to get the energy up. You don't want your hypoglycemia kicking in in a crisis situation.

The dot comes up with a plan. We've got to use civil war medicine to fix nebula man, which involves soling off part of the nebula and then burning the wound in order to heal it. Yeah. So they try initially by just like shooting these beams that they've come up with at the rims of the hole. And that the hole is repairing itself but slowly. You can't want to use an analgesic cream, I think.

And what they have to do is put the ship like right in between the two sides of the wound and like use the conductive properties of the power system to draw the Omicron particles toward each other. And so that's what they do. It's a bit of a dicey maneuver, timing is everything, but they manage to suture this thing up and then get out of there just in time to avoid being chomped by the healing

wound. This is not a good effect scene. The placement of the Voyager in the hole. And I don't think enough is made of the danger of the ship being in the hole and closing the wound around itself. Are you kidding? That's all they're calling out. That the rim of the thing is approaching at 500 kilometers a second and they The the hole wasn't designed to take this. I thought that was great My criticism is is about it being shot in profile. I think as an effect scene like it's it's in profile and it's a wide shot Yeah, show me the proximity of the threat show me proximity to the threat

We're too far away from Nebula Man. They do kind of get out of there before it, it feels dangerous. I will grant you that point. Thank you. But they do get out. And it's kind of, I like, there's still like kind of a lot of episode left when they get out. I was, I was surprised at this. I looked at the 40-minute mark or something, and that was surprising to me, because I was like, what else is there to do? Oh, you remember that French-slash-English pool hall storyline, Ben? Yeah.

We got to go back there. And it's not just Harry and Tom this time. The captain comes to Chico Teyes there, Balan is there, like the crew is hanging out together in this hollow bar. The captain gets hit on by a half French, half alien guy that wants to fuck her in a boat. His Fulucha on the War. Jesus, a real good sport about this. Like, tell you what, a Warf had a Fulucha on the War. Jesus a real good sport about this like tell you what a Warf had a Fulucha also.

He'd fuck you with that. This is the classic thing that happens when too many of your work friends get word of your hobbies. They start showing up at your places. They get to know you a little better than they should. It's dangerous and they never cut to Paris here. You never see Paris embarrassment, which is what this scene should be constructed around. I love that he's not embarrassed by this. This is where I come to masturbate. Come on, everybody. Come jack off with me.

It's fun. Commander Ch, everybody, come jack off with me. It's fun. Commander Chacote, you're a stick. It's a sexual permissiveness that is incongruent with Star Trek in general. I like that they're rewriting the rules here, though. The captain is not humiliated by this hollow character making a pass at her.

He has every bit the horny character that the female hollow characters are. And she likes it, she's like, that was cool, that was charming. There's coffee in that French penis. Ha, ha, ha. And she sits down at the card table with all of them and says I should have done this a long time ago

and they're like, what do you mean? Like five episodes ago? Yeah, and that's the series finale of Star Trek Voyager. Ha ha ha ha, incredible. I mean, it might as well have been that abrupt, Ben, because Janeway turns into a real pool hall sandbagger, no looking balls into the side pocket, the most difficult pocket to sink, the side, clearly.

Yeah. The log to credits here felt really strange to me. Yeah, very tacked on, like, hey, remember that very regrettable sea storyline? Well, we're going to remind you of it. That's the taste we're going to leave in your mouth. Yeah, it's just a little diversion, Captain. I think cutting from a scene to the exterior mid-log

and then ending it almost without punctuation, why not just end the show in the pool hall and then cut to exterior without the voiceover? I just don't see what its purpose was. I think that's a good edit by you, but... I'm not even gonna let that moment mess up my enjoyment of what is otherwise a nearly perfect episode of Star Trek. Hey Star Trek Voyager! You fucked up! And I got notes! You know, I'm really easy to get along with most of the time, but I don't like bollies, I don't like bread, and I don't like you. You're not just you.

Well Adam, I think everybody knows that I loved this episode and you hated it. So, what do you say we move right into priority one messages? That's just a co-host helping out his editor right there. Good choice by you. Priority one message from Starfleet coming in on Secured Channel. Need a supplement on top. A supplement? A supplement.

A supplement. Yes, extra. The interest alone could be enough to buy this ship! Ben, our first priority on message is of a personal nature. It's from Heath, and it's to Adam and Ben, and the message goes like this. You two chase Monday Blues straight to where Kevin sent the hoosnuck. Thank you. I've been viewing former episodes and ran across an impression, I'm simply desperate to hear again, Adam. Would you make me the happiest man in the world and do me the honor of dusting off your

Mark Twain? Oh no. Doesn't have to be now, surprises, and more importantly Ben. Well, he- No. This- This is an impression. He said nothing. That I'm very happy to provide. Oh, God.

Though I may not have an entire episode to do such an impression, I am very happy to provide you with one here. Akuchi Moya, though I am far from comedy, make comedy return to me. Heath, I'm happy to give you the impression you desired so much and and bought and paid for. I'm nothing if not a jukebox in your pleasure. Adam, we have another priority one message here, it's from Jacob, but it is also to Adam and Ben. Goes like this.

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Thank you for supporting the show Jacob. Yeah, thanks Jacob. I'm guessing you sent this before the end of Friendly Fire and that does seem like a awkwardness Yeah, thanks Jake. I'm guessing you sent this before the end of friendly fire and That does seem like a awkwardness that will haunt us for a little bit of time here But I really appreciate the support. Yeah, thanks Jacob If you want to get in on this support of the greatest generation taken on over to maximum fund out or slash join The word join being the operative word Slash Join! The word Join being the operative word. You get to join with other friends of DeSoto in supporting the ongoing production of the greatest generation and the greatest discovery.

Two of the best Star Trek podcasts out there. Indeed. Hey Adam. Tap in. Did you find yourself a drunk Shemota? Easiest Shemota I've ever found. Wow. When Nielix and Kess show up with the hors d'oeuvres on the bridge, the first officer to take a food sample off the plate is my Shimota. It's fucking great. It's a couple of officers in those backstations.

Yeah, yeah. The anonymous work of a backstation. There must be the junior officers. They turn right around and they get some snacks. Get those snacks. I love that they get the snacks before receiving approval from the commanding officer. For that, you get my drunk Shimoda. I love it.

My drunk Shimoda is Tuvak for his double standard that gets flipped back in his face by Harry Kim. Apparently you're not allowed to say that something is amazing to you unless you're saying it in a dour, two-vackey way. And I loved that. I loved that. That's bullshit. I loved especially Garrett Wong's performance

when he socks you back doing that. And was like, oh, got to get right back at him Who's yeah two-backs my drunks a moana? I mean that's the most fun type of comeback is is using their bullshit against them it rules it feels so fucking good Well, I mean you know what else feels good is going over to the game of Buttholes with a will of the caretaker and playing our board game. Do you want to head there now while I tell you about the next episode of Star Trek Voyager? I can do that.

Please do. Because the next episode is season one episode six, eye of the needle. The discovery of a wormhole in deep space raises the cruise hopes of finding a shortcut home. This is a version of Star Trek that is just about pressing your ship into something. Just pushing it right in. See what happens. There's so many holes in the D-quad and and we're gonna go in every single one of them. It's incredible.

I'm enjoying getting back to going on Starship Adventures, Ben. Just as I am excited to see where our runabout ends up, we are pretty high up on the game of buttholes. The will of the caretaker, square 87 is where we are at the moment thanks to you hitting a Janeway square on the board. Few squares ahead is the traveler square and a couple of squares ahead of that is a Nielix's galley episode where we drink a talaxian champagne. So the travel removes us five spaces forward

too. So that's like we could we could hit two jumps in two episodes. You're required to learn as you play roll. Danger abounds Ben and we're gonna see what my role does about that. What my role does about that? Ben, I've rolled a Three which has hit the travel episode and Had a poltidus five spaces forward off of that so we're now on square 95 Wow, which is a role of a five away from a mourn hammered episode God damn which would be really starting Voyager off with a bang. Yeah, that is shocking.

We've had stuff like almost every single role on Voyager so far. I like that there's so much danger in the Voyager version of the greatest generation. It's good. Yeah, the game is good. Well, Adam, I'm looking forward to that episode. And I'm also looking forward to hanging out online with all the friends at the Soto this week. Of course people use the hashtag GreatestGen on Twitter.

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