The Greatest Generation - No Atheists in a Bajor Hole (DS9 S3E10)

Episode Date: October 29, 2018

When a couple of the crew welcome their long-absent lovers back, everyone’s favorite ambassador to hate crashes the festival. But when the polarity of the station’s boners is reversed, only the passionless Doctor Bashir can save the day. How much coffee should you drink before sex? Is Bajor’s spiritual homogeneity the product of a horrifying and bloody religious war? Is Quark awesome at canasta? It’s just another episode from the human interest story of Star Trek podcasts. Come see us live on tour with Greatest Gen Khan🎉🎉🎉! Follow The Game of Buttholes: The Will of the Prophets! Support the production of The Greatest Generation.

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I'm Adam Pranika. How are you doing? I felt a little nozy with the open today. Like where the co-hosts of some local news team. Yeah, deeply unpopular. Every morning people wake up and tune to the other channel because we're over here on this channel. But that gives us the freedom to be to be fun just to keep it light. Really explore the space in the dumb television studio we work in. It's all dog stories and everything human interest.

Yeah, all the time. Yeah, that's us, the human interest story of Star Trek podcast. You drinking anything over there? Yeah, I got it. I know this is a regular app, but... Yeah, we're doing a... We frequently do pod fairly early in the day.

All things considered. And... Yeah. All things considered also records early in the day. That's... Why is it that? I am drinking a free Mexican logger, which is my... That's your fave.

It's kind of been a regular go-to for me lately. It's a, it's a, as you've commented, an extremely light looking logger beer. Yeah, it almost looks like a, like a white wine. It's so light. Yeah, it's true. I'm having some beers that friends of Ducero brought to us on our recent Canadian twer leg. All right, you got all of those. Yeah, you in the post-Canada divorce.

You were too scared to put any beverages in your luggage, so I took it upon myself to bring all of these beers home. Did they all make it back? Unexploded? They're cans, dude. Dude, I can't explode it in my bag it was a can yes oh man that's it was a bottle no that's why I was I was extremely gun shy about packing beard cans in my bag well the I took I took the precaution of putting it in double layer of hotel plastic laundry bags.

Great call. But I did not have any explosions. I'm drinking a couple of beers from the Whitewater Brewing Company of Ottawa Valley, Ontario. I've got a Legion Logger, and then I've got the Farmer's Daughter. Blonde Ale, it says. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. So that's what I'm drinking.

They sound pretty crushable, are they? Yeah. The, I'm enjoying both of them. We had plenty of great beer up in Canada. They know how to do it up there, you know? Yeah, we had, we hung out with some, some new friends of ours at that Edmonton show, especially who like stocked oured our green room with like their some of their favorite brew dogs. Yeah the folks that picked us up at the airport for the Edmonton show

had had like a handmade sign about being friends of DeSoda. Yeah. And we were a little worried that they were gonna harvest our organs but instead they gave us a bunch of delicious beer and I have some of that in my fridge as well. That was a moment where you did a bit with a stranger and the bit work. All I do is bits, bits, bits. No matter what. Yeah, I mean, they weren't strangers. They were friends in the Sado. They were ready for my dumb bits.

Yeah, they really were. Adam and Samantha were great friends to us for the duration of the Up and Downtown festival. Yeah. Man, it was so cool to go to Edmonton and play until like a real full room like that. And we got to go on our friend's, uh, uh, Graham and Dave's podcast, stop podcasting yourself the night before, which was also a ton of fun. We got to thank, uh, Brent Oliver, who was the guy who booked us for that Up and Downtown festival, a, also a friend of DeSoto.

We got to do one of the rare backstage pictures with someone's family, like including small children, which is kind of a rarity for us. Yeah, it was really funny. The, I think his son didn't want to be in the picture, so he held the camera, but his daughter was cool with it. Smart kid. Yeah, yeah, that son's going places.

Yeah. That, you know, like the photo, they can photoshop the daughter out of it, you know. Sure. Yeah. Probably want to. I think that's probably enough Marin for one day, right? I think so too. Let's talk about this app.

Peldoor Joy to you, Adam. And a hearty Peldoor Joy to you, babe. It a hearty Peldoor Joy to you, Bib. It's season three, episode 10, fascination. What? Did you realize how many cannibal this is? Ah-ha-ha-ha-ha-ha-ha-ha-ha-ha-ha-ha-ha-ha-ha-ha-ha-ha-ha-ha-ha-ha-ha-ha-ha-ha-ha-ha-ha-ha-ha-ha-ha-ha-ha-ha-ha-ha-ha-ha-ha-ha-ha-ha-ha-ha-ha-ha-ha-ha-ha-ha-ha-ha-ha-ha-ha-ha-ha-ha-ha-ha-ha-ha-ha-ha-ha-ha-ha-ha-ha-ha-ha-ha-ha-ha-ha-ha-ha-ha-ha-ha-ha-ha-ha-ha-ha-ha-ha-ha-ha-ha-ha-ha-ha-ha-ha-ha-ha-ha-ha-ha-ha-ha-ha-ha-ha-ha-ha-ha-ha-ha-ha-ha-ha-ha-ha-ha-ha-ha-ha-ha-ha-ha-ha-ha-ha-ha-ha-ha-ha-ha-ha-ha-ha-ha-ha-ha-ha-ha-ha-ha-ha-ha-ha-ha-ha-ha-ha-ha-ha-ha-ha-ha-ha-ha-ha-ha-ha-ha-ha-ha-ha-ha-ha-ha-ha-ha-ha-ha-ha-ha-ha-ha-ha-ha-ha-ha-ha-ha-ha-ha-ha-ha-ha-ha-ha-ha-ha-ha-ha-ha-ha-ha-ha- having a full-blown like teenage love bum out in his room looking at some jewelry that Marta gave him They're on the outs. He's smelling the the like stamp that goes through her ear Like it's it's an earring right yeah, it is an earring I think the thing I miss most about Marta is the smell of those ear holes

Her ear piercings have a particular smell? I don't know. They got into college though and she has done what I did when I went to college, which is pick a school as far from everyone I know as I could possibly get. Yeah, but you didn't pick a school that was two planets away from regular one. She got accepted to the regular three science academy. No shit, I didn't pick up on that. Yeah, she's probably studying it like the Carol Marcus Hall.

And like. I've heard that the bars around that campus have great apple cider. Hahaha. They're cultivating a lot of apples in that system, Adam. A lot of apples. Boy, you definitely want to go to the campus gymnasium named after the super jacked guy. I'm going to get one.

It's just all our machines. Leg day, what's that? I'm making it one. It's just all our machines. Leg day, what's that? Is Jake looped here? He sounded really weird in this album. Oh, turns out I don't have much to be grateful for. He is lying down, which does change the quality of your voice. Sure. But maybe he was lying down and it sounded even weirder and they looped him because of that.

Yeah. Yeah, I thought that might be the case. The advice that Cisco gives him is like, you're 16, he'll survive. That's like the last thing you want to hear as a 16 year old, right? We're supposed to believe that Ben Cisco is a cool dad who has like the best relationship with his son. And this is an instance of like him being regular dad. Buck up there, sport.

Yeah. Yeah. There's always another train coming. Plenty of fish in the sea, kiddo. Yeah, like this is too basic for Ben Sisko. I think that that time in life when you like another person and you get shut down or you break up, you know, whatever. I mean, I didn't break up with anybody at that age.

Nobody was dating me in any capacity where a breakup would be necessitated. But a couple of times I like asked a girl to dance at a dance or something and I got shut down and it hurt in a big way. You can't imagine life going on after that. I resent Deep Space Nine as a program, as a project for giving us the idea that Marta was going to be a going concern, establishing her in name and reputation only, and then giving us an episode with her where things go so well, only to unceremoniously like dispose of her like this. Yeah, she's just written off the show.

I think that's fucked up. I don't like it at all. I think you have to bring her back for this episode. I think Sir Rockloftin plays this scene super well though. Like he understands what Jake is going through and he really puts it all on the screen. I feel like they told Sir Rockloftin, look, acts like how you feel about Martin not being brought back to this episode. Like, be that upset about it.

Yeah, you guys are not gonna have a kissing scene ever again. I think the reason that Martin is not in this episode is because if she were, the make-outs would be hypersexual. Yeah, that's probably what it is. Yeah. We also get a breakfast hang with Bashir and Chief O'Brien. I am Chief Miles Edward O'Brien. This is fucking spectacular.

And O'Brien is, he reveals, like, he kind of came up with this thing a few episodes ago to like have Keko go reconnect with her highest calling, which is to be a botanist. Be a botanist, Kiko. And the idea was she was just going to be on Bejure, so like no big deal to like visit on the weekends. Or Bejure's a lead three hours away and I run about. We can manage.

She's been gone for two and a half months and they have not seen each other at all. And like any couple who's been away for a long time, I think they've ceded some expectations about what might happen on this weekend furlough, Ben if you know, with any certainty that there will be sexy times happening, what do you places your limitation on cups of coffee ahead of time? Hahaha. You know, I know that there are folks that get smelly when they have too much coffee. Oh, I've never heard of this. What?

Like they smell like coffee or smell like something else. Yeah, I think they smell like coffee grounds coming out of their pores or something. What? Yeah. What? Yeah. Really? Is that not what you're talking about, Adam? I feel like you're talking about coffee making you need to poo.

I'm talking about that. I feel like this is playing with brown fire. Well, I try not to brag about this, Adam, especially around you. Is this another story of your great sexual prowess, Ben? It's more of my colonic prowess, which is that I have an extremely regular schedule, W-slash-r-slash-t-illumination. It happens in the morning, and it is not a concern for the rest of the day.

Wow. What must that be like? I don't know. Yeah, like I hear people talking about it. Like, oh, I got to make sure, you know, before I get in a long car ride. I'm like, really? I've got a shit of damacles above my head.

24, 7, man. Butthole of damacles. Yeah, that's no fun. Like I said, I. But all of them. Yeah. That's no fun. Like I said, I'm not trying to brag. I'm just trying to say like where I'm coming from is, yeah, have all the coffee you want, O'Brien. You know, have one in the afternoon for all I care. Yeah, it's gonna change anything.

Extra energy. He's ready. I realize now, Adam, that I need to check my regularity privilege. Yeah. How dare you toilet signal me. I really like the scene with Bashir and O'Brien because there's some unspoken stuff happening here, which is that like they are, they have become each other's relationship proxy because Bashir has not been able to find himself

in a regular relationship and because O'Brien's wife is absent, they rely on each other for companionship and it's like not sexual obviously, but like they spend a bunch of time with each other, time that would otherwise be spent probably alone and frustrated. Playing Spider-Man on PlayStation 4, you know, like you don't wanna do that the entire time.

They're leaving it all out there on the Racketball court. Speaking of unrequited loves, Odo walks up to Kira who's out on the promenade, helping the Bajorans decorate for this big festival that's coming up. Tell her joy, Odo. Tell her joy to you too, Major. It's a very high school, I'm going to go kick it to this girl kind of thing where he kind of invites her on a date,

but there's plausible deniability on this being a date. Like if you're not busy later and you're gonna be at the festival, I will also be at the festival. Perhaps we will do festival together or whatever. I mean, no big deal if not, but just saying. And she says, yeah, like I'll be at the festival with my boyfriend, Vedic Barrel.

That everyone knows is my boyfriend. They ever tell you about the time that in high school, that like I had a crush on a girl for like a year, like a solid year, like 12 months, like a summer went by in the midst of this crush that I did not see her at all because she lived very far from me. And at some point like in the middle of a school day,

I was like, I don't know what I'm waiting for, you know? She doesn't have a boyfriend, I'm just sitting here. I gotta go ask her day, I was like, I don't know what I'm waiting for, you know. She doesn't have a boyfriend. I'm just sitting here. I gotta go ask her out. I gotta go do it. And I was like down by like the tennis court or something and I decided to like walk to the main school building, see if she was around.

And on my way to like the main school building, a friend, a mutual friend passing the other way goes, Ben, here's Steve A. Steady out. They're going together now. Like that news just like dropped out of the sky on my head. The second I like got up enough nerve to go like do something about what I was feeling. Wow.

Yeah. What timing? Amazing. I mean, saved me a big scoop of hurt. You take a different route, that destination and things then differently for you. Yeah. Oh, thanks, Mike.

Thanks for telling me. I'm just going to the bathroom. I wasn't doing anything but that. Wow. Odo does not get the same courtesy in this moment. He just like has to stand there with the play to shit under his nose When he finds out that that baryla is on his way to the station. It's a different thing, right? There's a difference between an infatuation with someone that is

You know undeclared and an interest in someone who is taken. Yeah. And it's interesting that they've chosen to take the second route with Odo. Because she wasn't always taken, and they didn't telegraph any of the interest that he now very visibly has in her then. I think part of it is that Vettich Brawl fucking sucks. And everyone knows it, and especially Odo. That's the third thing, right?

It's like the first thing, unpronounced love for someone. The second thing, love for someone who's already connected. Third thing is love for someone who's with someone who sucks. Yeah, that was the toughest thing about that girl in high school was the guy that she ended up with, like I ran into her like a solid 10 years later in a coffee shop in New York, like just out of the blue, I like turned around and there she was. And I did not have a relationship of any kind at the time. And I said, wow, amazing to run into you here. Like, what are you

doing? Like, like, catch me up on your life, and she's like, still with Steve. Oh, no. Did you say it like that? No, but like the rid of them. They were like high school sweetheart who ended up together in a way that I would like admired, you know? Yeah, I guess. Go to Kata, Go to Kotlin.

So, Kira and O'Brien wind up waiting at the door to the airlock together. Go ahead and uh, oh, who are you waiting for? Kiko. Brie. And then the door slides open and it's like, it's still facing them in a way that like, you can almost hear like the record scratch and I was so ready for the camera to turn around and cut to Kiko and Baryle making out in the airlock like I couldn't

believe that it didn't happen it was like so perfect for that but also I understand why I didn't have one. This is a really well directed scene, and this is an Avery Brooks directed episode. And so there are a lot of interesting choices being made throughout. And this A versus B scenario only serves to underscore how painful it is when things aren't going great in a relationship. Like to have, to have new love next to warn in love. Right. Quotidian married love. It's hard to compare those two.

Yeah, because Keko is totally fucking run out from traveling with a small child, which I can only fucking imagine how exhausting that is. The kid is sick. She like boots in miles as lap the second he says hi to her. Yeah. And the fuck fest that you're waiting for as the dude who has been living the bachelor lifestyle for two and a half months is fully called off in like 10 seconds flat, you know, as soon as Molly bars on your junk, like that's, that's done.

It's over. Yeah. The, the couple of days, like you may sneak something in by the end of day two, but long odds on anything going down in, in this visit at that point. Nothing and no one is going down this weekend, O'Brien. And a further slide whistle, because it is revealed like the thing that has made Keko the most stressed out on this trip, is he had that person next to her

in the seat on the airplane that insists on talking. Oh boy, Laksana definitely seems like the type next to her in the seat on the airplane that insists on talking. Oh boy, Laxana definitely seems like the type that would not regard that you're wearing earphones on a plane and will tap on you to have a conversation. This is maybe a corollary to the first rule of Greatest Gen. Yeah. It's a, you know, this is one thing, like, do not lean your seat back is, is the most important part of that rule. But that thing of somebody is sitting next to me, and therefore I am entitled to have a conversation with them, not a thing. Not a thing. You had a recent experience with this on, on one of our tour legs, am I right? This was the Minneapolis to Toronto leg is what this was. And I was sitting next to a lady who was,

I mean, super nice, but that was part of the problem. Because I was listening to podcasts and staring out the window from my window seat and she wanted to talk and was not taking headphones for an answer. Right. She was talking through the headphones, looking at me and talking, and I had to take them off because to wear them would be weird. She totally forced it.

And it wasn't urgent conversation about anything in particular. She was like, so how long, how much longer do you think the flight is? And it was like, well, I think we were all told it was an hour and 45 minutes. I think there's a screen directly in front of you on the back of the seat that you're sitting behind that can tell you everything you need to know about that. I mean, and I understand if she's like a nervous flyer or whatever. And like, I don't, I don't feel like she's a bad person for this. And I don't feel like people are bad people for doing this.

But like, there's like, which is why it's not the top line of the rule. It's the etiquette of being in public or being with other people in a confined space that I think is sometimes lost on people. Right. And it's like, you know, the person you're tapping might have some hang up or social anxiety or need to focus on whatever they're doing, you know. It's like, you know, we knew you added an episode of this show.

You send it to me to QA before we publish it. And occasionally I will be doing the work of listening to your episode, which is always fun for me. And I love hearing how you edit it and the drops you put in. And it's an enjoyable experience. But to all outward appearances, my wife sees me walking around the house with headphones on. She's like, Ben is being an asshole right now. And wants to talk to me and have a conversation. And it is hard for the casual observer to see what is happening as

anything, but just, you know, you shedding the world out for no good reason. Why didn't my seatmate know I was listening to stop podcasting yourself? Like, that's what she needed to understand. That could not be interrupted. Yeah. Yeah. How are you supposed to be here overheard when you're overhearing her bullshit. Ben, there's a great big event on DS9.

It's the... Bejorin Indigenous Peoples Festival. Otherwise known as the Gratitude Festival, which feels like a very Thanksgiving adjacent type situation. We need to cook up a new holiday for the summer. Something with gifts, cards, sorted countables. Yeah, it's like, yum kippur and Thanksgiving kind of rolled up into one. You're right in your problems down on a stroll and letting them burn away. I like seeing this kind

of event. You rarely got anything like this on the sterile starship enterprise D. Like, this on the sterile starship enterprise D. Like, it's fun to experience this culture in this way with a celebration and a parade and a band and stuff. This is great. You know how like airports and hospitals sometimes have like an interdenominational chapel? If you think the D has something like that? Yeah, I think so. I think I would have to. Now you were asking me to send them back into the dark ages of superstition and ignorance and fear. No. Do you think that Deep Space 9 has something like that or is it all Bajorin religion? I mean, if I had, if I were a bedding man and I am, I think I would bed on Bajorin. Do you think that there are people on Bjure that believe in a different religion that

also arose on Bejure, or is everybody the same religion on Bejure? I see where you're going with this, Ben. And I like it. Because the idea that... Because everybody knows the old adage, there are no atheists in a bajor hole. The idea of like an entire planet observing a single homogenous religion is, it seems kind of farfetched.

And semi-horifying, like what did they do to get to that? Right, for conflict, maybe. Yeah. Oh yeah, everybody else that believes something, not this, we killed. Yeah. It's basically what that implies. Yeah.

Luxunutroy is there because she heard about the founder's situation. She's undergone interstellar travel to go comfort Odo in his time of need, which is a weird thing of like emotional intelligence and emotional stupidity at the same time on her part, because she wants to be there for him and comfort him, but also like everything he is feeling about it is something that she imagines, he must be feeling about it. Right. You poor, sweet, tortured man. This knowledge that she comes across seemed very far fetched to me, Ben.

And so, I did a little bit of research. Oh, no. What I found was there were lines of dialogue removed. We're in... Laxana Troy discloses that she and Admiral Nachev are great friends. Kindred spirits is what she called them and said that she heard about it from Nacayev. She heard about this founder situation from her Wow, do you think that she and Nacayev like a nice chop liver on a Ritz cracker? I think I think they enjoy some some canopies together and they just dish they just get together and dish been I love the The mental image of Admiral Nacayev and

They just get together in Dish, Ben. I love the mental image of Admiral Nacayev and Ambassador Troy just kippits and over some Valarian canapes. Absolutely. Fun. Why didn't they give us that? That great gift. Every time there's a, a, a, a, a, a, a, a, a, a, a, a, a, a, a, a, a, a, a, a, a, a, a, a, a, a, a, a, a, a, a, a, a, a, a, a, a, a, a, a, a, a, a, a, a, a, a, a, a, a, a, a, a, a, a, a, a, a, a, a, a, a, a, a, a, a, a, a, a, a, a, a, a, a, a, a, a, a, a, a, a, a, a, a, a, a, a, a, a, a, a, a, a, a, a, a, a, a, a, a, a, a, a, a, a, a, a, a, a, a, a, a, a, a, a, a, a, a, a, a, a, a, a, a, a, a, a, a, a, a, a, a, a, a, a, a, a, a, a, a, a, a, a, a, a, a, a, a, a, a, a, a, a, a, a, a, a, a, a, a, a, a, a, a, a, a, a, a, a, a, a, a, a, a, a, a, a, a, a, a, a, a, a, a, a, right into the camera. Like in this episode it is Keko doing Adamise to camera right before the theme drops. It's that. What does that mean? It's that, you know, the look on

your face when we're getting out of a particularly bad ride chair or something like that. Or you get off an airplane that you've just had to talk to somebody the entire time. I love that atomized to Ben camera is a thing now. That's canonical greatest gym. Yeah, it is trick being self-aware that this isn't a not just character, that is a not just for everybody, including the viewer. Yeah. And yet somehow we write it in frequently and we can't quit Loxana episodes as a franchise.

I wish I knew how to quit you. Yeah, I mean, Star Trek royalty. Like when the pocket shows up on set. Yeah. Gotta put her in the show. She's really there to make Odo feel better and he doesn't really, he's also the kind of man that doesn't really know how to accept a Emotional gift like this. He's not a vulnerable person generally speaking and

He got pretty vulnerable with her that one time in the elevator, but what that meant for her was we are deeply connected for the rest of our lives. And she lays that all on him. And when she, the second she walks out of frame, he rolls his eyes so hard, I was worried his retinas were going to detach. And yet, Odo's reaction to her makes me feel sorry for Laxana. And I think that speaks to the strength of her performance. We've spent a lot of

time talking about the myriad problems we have with Laxana Troy episodes. The idea that those episodes are criticized separately from the idea of her as a character or Major Barrett as an actor. Like, those are all separate criticisms, I think. And I think we all, we feel differently about each one of those things. I think Loxana does great work in this app. And part of the reason that her character has pivoted from punchline to tragedy is the unrecoidedness

of her affection. Like that she loves so hard on people that it makes them uncomfortable. It repulses them. Yeah. I don't use the bucket anymore. The other thing that happens early in this episode is a pretty hot and heavy Kira Baryle hang. You said hot and heavy? And we've seen a bit of this before. One thing that I think didn't happen previously

in these like Kira kind of luxuriating on a couch and Beryl smooching with her. I don't think he was in his priest robes before. It is really weird to see a gentleman and a lady making out when the gentleman is dressed as a man of the cloth.

Right. Like, you never see that. And I know that in some religions it's not frowned upon and others it is. But like... You make a great point about like off-duty edition Like, you never see that. And I know that in some religions, it's not frowned upon another as it is, but like. You make a great point about like, off-duty edition Vedic barile. There's also off-duty edition Major Kira,

who arranges her hair in a kind of George Clooney from Dusk till Dawn motif. Ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha Like, like, there is real, there are real choices being made by both of them about how they change out of work clothes and work hair. The transition from work hair to off duty hair could not be more exciting for me when it is what Kira is doing. I think Kira's hair choices are great every time, including here. Yeah, extremely exciting. And she's out of uniform for most of the app, right?

She's like, she's got a special position this year in Deep Space Nine's celebration of this festival. So, you know, she's wearing her uniform in that first scene when Odo stops by to have her obliviously shut him down. But for a lot of the rest of the episode, she's in her civvies. She's sort of like the grand marshal of the parade. She is, she is that kind of role in the festivities.

She gets to read a speech. She gets delight the torch. She starts the whole thing off. Little detail gets peppered in that beryl is actually pretty pleased with how Kai win is running things. I thought that was the reason that Kira was like, hey, I gotta go, go to work. That's my lady boner has totally deflated

hearing that. But there's this kind of a skeevy moment here that that goes by really fast, which is like, Fettic Barrel does that fucking thing where he tries to plant the seed of breaking up a girlfriend ship so that the person he's interested in has more time to spend with him. What the fuck, Barrel? Fuck you. Yeah, that's a dick move.

You never want to try to break up a girlfriend ship. That will only end in misery for you. Yeah, yeah. Do you want to talk about maybe the scariest part of this episode, which is it's a scene which maybe should have a warning ahead of it for anyone who's married? A trigger warning. Because the scene where O'Brien is sitting on a chair

drinking some beer and Kaka walks back into the room. This is a very, very realistic fight between two people who love each other. Because the O'Brien's are back at it. I was, God, this scene just wrecked me. And not because like, this is what life is, is a married couple, but because when it swirves into this area, like, this is how fraught these moments are, when one or the other person believes that they are making concessions to benefit the other, like, because, you know, like part of a marriage

is like giving and taking and sacrificing and like making the other person happy when that is responded to with resentment and then that resentment mounts and then there's like insufficient answers to fairly benign questions and then like that irritation that someone gets. I'm just getting panic. It's the more you describe it.

Right. It's terrifying. And to see this happen on screen in such a realistic way, great moment in this app. Hyper realistic. It's the second, like really, like, and it's just, it's just miles and Kiko together, like the second scene that we've seen just the two of them directed by Avery Brooks that is like this. The first being, I think it's the episode where O'Brien is put on trial,

where that first scene is just them in a runabout cockpit, like headed out on vacation. And- That's right, he did direct that. The dynamic is like so intoxicating and like exactly like the funnest thing about being in a long term committed relationship.

This is like that moat, like it's like right on that knife edge of like, we're supposed to be having fun and somehow, instead we're gonna have a fight. I want Avery Brooks directing a rom-com. Like, I think his ability in this area is expert. I think he's really great at this. Because like, she's super wiped out.

She's like, I don't, like, all I've been doing is fucking looking after a goddamn kid making choices all day and There's a bunch of shit on my plate right now like we have to like go do this stupid festival There's parties. There's people that want a piece of me. I am rung out. I am not here for this shit I feel exhausted and he's like well, let's like make for this shit, I feel exhausted. And he's like, well, let's like make concessions to that. Let's find a chill way to like service some of our obligations, but we don't have to do everything or we could do nothing, like

whatever you want. And she's like, I don't want to pick between all of those things. Just tell me what you want to do. And we'll do it. Miles, I've been making decisions all day long. And that's a real thing, you know. I've strong affinities for what Kiko is going through here, because I often find that I am as a function of being a member of a couple committed to things that aren't necessarily on the top of my list of things to do, but also feel obliged to do them, but also sometimes I'm like psycho-emotionally not up for them, and it is hard to admit that psycho emotionally not up for them. And it is hard to admit that sometimes and defend yourself against them.

Yeah, I think you're exactly right. Part of what makes us seem great is that we are all Keko and we are all Obrayan. Totally. And if I had a nickel for every time my wife had tried to get me to wear the sexiest clothes I own out to something. Those silk boxers, yeah? I'd be a rich man. So the gratitude festival is underway and people the festival are juggling and rolling balls in their hands.

Experts suggest feeling for lumps in the shower when the body is relaxed. A weird amount of like circusy shit is suffusing the show. Like somehow the showrunners have really like taken the ren fair cool-aid this season. Yeah. The higher the fewer. Yeah. At a few instances during the episode Laxana has sort of made a gesture to her head in the head-on style fashion. Apply directly to the forehead. And Jake makes one of those motions

early in the ep 2 after which he makes a hard-passic Kira, like capital P pass. I love you, Nareisha. The sort of bravery of a Tom Riker driving the defiant into... into a... into ten Cardassian ships. Like... Wow! He wants to duck his defiant in her airlock.

Except Akira Jake has always been cloaked to her, to her, right? Like... Like, she's never seen him on her radar. This comes as a surprise. A big surprise to her. And the funny part of it is that like, she kind of misinterpreted what he's saying as him asking her for advice about how to kick it to older women. But like, you never want to say that to an older woman. Right. What do you do, Jake? But also, he does that like super high school thing of saying, first, I love you. Second, do you want to go out with me?

Yeah. That is the wrong order, man, and the wrong order by like months. I think Serok Lofton is great in this episode because these are fairly thankless things to say. The line on the page is I love you go out with me. Like, how many different ways can you do that while still achieving some sort of like human moment there? It seems really hard to do without without becoming a punchline. And it's a little bit joky What's happening here just because of the power dynamic between them?

But like he really is sincere and his performance is what makes it work. Yeah, it might be the last thing that works in this episode. Yeah You know, a really workspin the the scene where DAX and Morn are sitting by the fire fountain and The length of Morn's scroll is comparable to his crank DAX is like, boy, that is a great big scroll you have there. You should really just stick that in the fire Feel like a lot of ladies would be pretty impressed by that scroll. He's got some prodigious scroll. But you can't have it out here in public.

This is a family event, Morn. Like, it's such a throwaway scene, but it's great. They do that right. Very funny. It feels like a while since we've seen Morn. Yeah. Welcome back seen Morn. Yeah, welcome back Morn. This is also the scene where Baryle comes and confesses some sort of schoolboy love for Dax in a way that is very similar to what J.S.S. Go just expressed to Kira. And he's headache horny in the way that we now understand this show to work.

Like, it's fairly early on in the app. We've seen two people do head-on- Apply directly to the forehead. And now there are some choices being made with respect to romantic interests. And that's unfortunate, Ben, because the secret's out. And what are we, like, 10 minutes into the episode? Yeah, I think maybe, like like 10 minutes into the episode? Yeah, I think maybe like 15 minutes into the episode. Like the what is going on is like beyond obvious to anybody that's watched a little walks on episode before.

Right. She shows up. She finds Odo listening to a band. She has put on her, may I speak to your manager, Wig? And attempts to seduce Superintu, some dancing. But he is not really having it. He is not sensitive to the thing that everybody else is sensitive to. I'm with Odo, how are you supposed to dance to like pan-flu and Marimba?

Yeah, there's no rhythm there. Yeah. Yeah, he wants to drop it like his hat. He wants to shake his ass. They kind of sound like island rhythms. What are the most delightful things to me about our time in Edmonton as I walked around one morning and there was a big farmer's market happening. Uh-huh.

And there was like a guy with a steel drum playing like some island rhythms. Oh, that's the farmer's market. It was really nice. guy with a steel drum plan, like some island rhythms. Oh, that's the farmers market. It was really nice. I like a steel drum. Yeah, one of the most beautiful instruments. Yeah, it sounds nice. When I was in high school, I really wanted to learn it, and I tried to convince my parents to buy me a steel drum

and like help me figure out a way to take lessons. No interest in their part. You know, of all the instruments that Indy Rock has co-opted, you've got your melodica, you've got your pedal steel. Of all of the artistic expressions that whites have stolen. Yeah, exactly. That's what I'm saying. Like, like, the herty-gurty of the arcade fire, like, there are all of these things, like

cultural appropriations and music. No one has thought to steal the steel drum. But when was the last pop song you heard with a steel drum in it? I mean, is it red, red wine? I think it might be the 50-cent song, P-I-M-P. Oh, doesn't that have a steel drum in it? But that, I mean, I don't't know I don't know what his cultural extraction is, but I feel like he's it's less problematic for him to use a steel drum.

Then for the arcade fire to use a headache, Ben. Uh oh. This is the first of many scenes where Dax's off duty uniform is fairly revealing and beautiful because Terry Farrell is a beautiful person. But one can't help but notice that like she is showing a little more than most in the app. And I think this is because of a story that popped up and continues to pop up, which is Terry Farrell's purported reason for leaving the show was a compounding number of incidents wherein Rick Berman like encouraged her to be more sexy, to dress more sexy, to like pad her bra. He was very like lascivious with her

allegedly during her time on the show and she commented on this in that 50-year mission book and her comments are on the internet for anyone to read but pretty terrible look for Rick Berman, pretty awful situation that Terry Ferrell found herself in, and it's something that unfortunately, like, colors an episode like this, where her manner of dress is fairly innocuous because it's like off-duty dacks, and she's partying, and she's like being amorous with people, but like you see when it's her, it's different because of this story and I think that's too bad

and I think that should be mentioned when we talk about her in this context. Right, because when you're an actor, you're interesting, a lot of personal vulnerability to the people you're working with and a person like Berman is in a position to cause a love scene to be put in the show to cause a scene where you are in a sexually revealing outfit to be put into the show.

And that's even more power than is typically had by a boss in any job. And also, when you're an actor, your job is to go into yourself and find the emotions that you need to express and dig that stuff up in front of everybody. And actors have freakouts on sets all the time. You hear about your Christian bail melting down on set and stuff and people make fun of it, but it's also kind of a has like an occupational hazard, you know, you're you're digging into yourself and like touching your emotional thirdrails to get access to those

things to express them on screen to make them present so that we as an audience can feel them, you're raw a lot of the time. Right. And imagining what it is like to be that raw and exposed and also to some extent under the sway of somebody that you don't really trust with the charge of like treating that respectfully and artistically is pretty scary and kind of a sad thing to think would happen on a show that has as high of ideals as this. Yeah, I think we all feel like Star Trek displays like an idealism that we should all

seek to achieve. And this is one of those contrasts. It's like a contradiction where like some of the perfections on display in this future are made by imperfect people and sometimes bad people. And it's fucked up how someone like a creative executive could give cover to their terribleness by calling it a creative decision or saying like your character would do this. Yeah. Like that's such a terribly chicken shit way to be an asshole to a coworker.

Yeah. Allegedly. Well, moving on from that. Dax's headache results in her spinning off in a flirtatious way. It does. We catch up with Quark who's trying to hawk pens to write your sins down on those business of paper. Yeah. He's not in the paper business. He's in the pen business. How many pens do you think he had there?

You think he's in the pen 15 club? And then we find Miles and Keko up in their their traditional second floor Quirk's bar hang. And she's laying some bad news on Miles. The bad news is that they're the expedition that she is cycled back from only briefly. It may go on quite a bit longer than anyone anticipated. It's another element of a long term relationship that is painful, which is the thing that is better for one person often is a sacrifice for the other, or painful for the other person

to accept. The idea of Keko being gone another seven months really hurts O'Brien here. Yeah, he's like, man, I might actually have to get the run about and come visit you on the weekends. Like, we talked about before. And then what? And then what? Just summarily dropped for some reason.

I mean, he is not great about receiving this information. He gets petulant and, you know, I think there's a way to express what your wants are and what your feelings are about, something that don't kind of recriminate the other. Sure, but Kiko also mentioned a work husband in the context of this argument, and that should not have happened. Yeah. You've got to keep that to yourself. You don't have to explain away Trevor. Well, describing this thing that is not going great for your husband. Yeah, that's that's this thing of ours between her and Trevor. Yeah, you know, they just they just like the Florida on the water cooler.

It's totally chased. He's a friend. A friend. So that doesn't go well. Neither does the discussion between Cisco and Jake in the aftermath of the major Kira pass. Another not great dad scene for Ben Cisco. Like of all the ways that he could discourage his son from going down this path with Kira. Like spraying a garden hose at him.

Like the one thing he doesn't choose to say, the one thing that no one chooses to say is that like love is a two way street and you never want to have to convince someone to love you. Right. Like that is never on the table at any point between any two people in this episode. But man, I think that that's something

that like all of 80s and 90s media didn't understand in a weird way. Because that's core conflict and that's like how you write a story is like what person A loves person B but person B doesn't know or doesn't love them back. Like that's the beginning of most stories. The moment in college when I realized that you don't get a girl to love you by standing outside her house with a boom box over her head was like a total like,

oh, right? I really resented all media for a while after that because I was like, I feel so misled. Right, right. I thought that girls didn't like boys until boys convinced them to like them. Yeah. And in fact, that is not at all how it works.

Yeah. That's the opposite of how it works. Like, you have to both like each other and then you get together and see if it works. But the second one is so much harder to depict in 48 minutes on a television show. And that's the fucked up part. It is that it's easier to do the worst thing.

The worst thing that is like it encourages like the kind of thinking that Rick Berman is accused of, right? Like, it starts with Peppie LePue. Like how many kids watched Peppie LePue hop his way at the lady's gunk hour after hour on Saturday morning cartoons? I after hour on Saturday morning cartoons. I didn't watch Saturday morning cartoons. I just watched Peppy Leapue on Loop.

It ruined me, Adam. It was Peppy Leapue and Foghorn Leghorn. That's how I learned. Those are the seduction techniques that I knew of into college. That's why when I, when I, when it really got serious between me and my wife, I said, I say, I say, I think I love you. So dumb. Speaking of like people having strong opinions about how the dynamics between men and women should be, Quark gets to a rail on about this a bit in the episode.

O'Brien is like bummin' out about the fight, and he's had with Kiko and Quark kind of rails on him about how the Frankies really haven't figured out. You humans, you never learn. You let your women go out in public. I'm really like specifically misogynistic society. You really like smooth over a lot of these rough edges. I really do like any scene that depicts old-fashioned bartender advice. Like the scene of Quark, like cleaning out a glass, tucking shop with O'Brien is satisfying,

almost every time, until he tells the story of what married life is like, unfair and gar, you know. That's not great. How's that supposed to give O'Brien any peace? Yeah, so what, so what you're saying Quark is I should strip my wife of all of her dignity. I feel like O'Brien should turn the cork and be like, what the fuck are you wearing, cork?

You wearing the jacket of a retired women's club going out for Easter brunch. What the fuck is this? Yeah, what are you trying to, what signal are you trying to send to the world that you're awesome at canasta? Everyone's off-duty clothing and hair is, I think, cool and interesting. Quark wears a bazure and earring, like commensurate with the size of his ears. And that's fun. There's so much more elaborate than your day of French-p for the producer on ear. But the jacket combo is not good. Yeah. If that's for

Ringy formal wear, I'm not a fan. So all of this has been building up to a big a big Cisco family feast in the ward room. And everybody's been, it's like it's like the the junior prom where everybody's angling for the wrong person to take to it. And a great description. And, you know, Beryl wants it to be dax with him and Kira is hurt by that. And everybody's like both totally infatuated with the person that they're infatuated with and totally skived out by the person that's infatuated with the person that they're infatuated with and totally skived out by the person that's infatuated with them. Like, Baryle is super weird and distant with Kira all of a sudden. It's the Mexican standoff of wanting to fuck.

Everyone's pointing either dicks or tits at someone. at someone. Ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha so strong to the extent that it's like a smash cut to medical readout. Yeah, you know what, that is an interesting transition, isn't it? And it's Bessier guard like, yeah, as far as I can tell, nothing wrong with her. And she's like, there's nothing wrong with me. The only thing right with me is looking at that booty, Benjamin Sisko, I want that.

Every Brooks' laugh is so great. If I ever told you that you smell wonderful. I have to admit, you had me going there for a minute. It cuts through all of it. I can't help but laugh when I hear him laugh in this character. It's so much fun. It's really fun. I don't know how he does it.

It's great. I mean, look, this is the sort of Ben Siskoa moding that I think we made fun of in the premiere episode. And as if it, like, it wasn't a good fit or like, it didn't work in that first episode. But to hear him break in this way here, seems totally earned and good. I will say that like, as a director, directing actors, what he is doing in this episode is working.

He is getting great performances out of everybody. Leaving Six Bay, Dax is doing like, I'm so excited to have introduced my new boyfriend to my dear friend, like happy couple vibe. And he is still doing like, good, I'm glad we solved that little problem, like I am oblivious to the fact that she's still doing it vibe. And it's exactly what that scene needs, it's so funny. But the story is so dumb and preposterous. And it's like, ren fair fair imagery and it's a bit like a deep space nine always doing bits. All I do is bits, bits, bits,

kind of a problem. What's a food that you pick the good stuff out of and leave the rest? Like a trail mix that has M&Ms in it? This feels, I mean, I love a trail mix, but this feels like the snack mix that you take all the good stuff out of. Like there are such good moments in this terrible episode.

And that's one of them. A lot of the building blocks are great. Yeah. Like even O'Brien's kid is great in the episode. Yeah. You know? Yeah, Molly's cool. She only has a couple of scenes,

you know, like the scene where she, she yaks on his, on his groin, the scene where she's playing with the pig and he sends her into the other room. She's a strong child actor and she's as young as they get for who we get to see on Star Trek in general. She's about as young as can be like trusted with having a line that she says back. Yeah. And she does it. And that's in the midst of O'Brien and Keko really being like down in the dumps with

their relationship. This was like one of the weird parts of the episode to me because neither of them is like sprung off somebody else. Right. Like neither of them is under the influence necessarily of a loxana. I guess maybe Kiko is because she was sitting next to her on the flight the entire time. And it's about proximity. If the rule of what's happening, if what loxana is transmitting to other people, if the rule

of that game is that you must be attracted to someone who Does not share that attraction to you. I mean, there's a moment where the math of that makes sense between Kiko and And Miles and that's a little later on. I mean, I think the rule is that you just have to be attracted to the first person You see that you have any late in attraction to at all. Yeah, But the conflict between them doesn't seem to be related to that at all. There's a scene where O'Brien like leans up against the bedroom door and tells her that like he's going to give it all up. He's going to resign and go to Beijor and then earth after that if that's what it takes. Bollocks! Yeah, he already left the iPad on Cisco's desk. And it's heartbreaking that the voice on the other side of the door says I just need time to think.

Like that lack of resolution here is pretty terrifying. And then O'Brien has to do that awful thing of having a lot on your mind and going to a party. Yeah, that's never fun. No, it's like sitting in the corner, feeling all his shitty feelings, trying to think of a way out of it. And the only person he's got to talk to is super love sprung Jake Cisco. That's not what you want. Lux on his headache infectbush year in Kira. And they get down to some bad, bad kissing. Like, like they cannot synchronize the opening and closing of their mouths in a weird way. Just the kissing of two people that do not want to exchange

any saliva if they can get away with it. Which is weird because there are no real life relationship at this point. Are they really? Like, Nanavizator, I believe, has his child less than a year after this. Whoa! Or something like that.

I didn't know that. I had no idea that they ever got together. They kiss like two people who are trying to act like they're not in a relationship and are like Acting like they don't want to do it like that sort of the vibe that I got Which is great meta acting I think man. That's fun I had no idea that they had had had a real life relationship I don't know if it was generally known at the time, but it certainly turned into like a marriage and children.

But are they not together anymore? No, I don't believe they are. So I still have a shot. I mean, get in line. And line forms here. All right, fair enough. We say as to happily married men. Yeah. Who are just crushing on a Anavisa door at all times.

You know. So basically the party is going weird as fuck. You've got beryl trying to propose to DAX. You've got DAX like loving up on Cisco. You've got Bashir and Kira sucking face in front of everybody. This is very upsetting to Jake. Kiko shows up in the aforementioned red dress, which is very exciting for O'Brien.

It seems like maybe like this is the resolution of their B story in some ways. Yeah. Did you really mean it about turning in your resignation? Well, you better get it back before Commander Cisco sees it. Which is nice. And they get like a real nice, like they go in for closeups when they go in for their congratulatory kiss

with each other where, you know, they put the promised filter on and they just look so excited to be together. Get to see that covetous cake o' dimple. And she smiles up at him. It was hard for me to feel great about this resolution because this had come just on the heels of like career chicken being played. What do you make of like careers being used as bargaining chips in a relationship like this. He feels fraught.

It does feel fraught. I don't think that he was doing that at her, though. I think he was going to go for her. Yeah. Look, I completely agree. And that's not how I met it. But like, I think that they've, like, if, if there's career chicken, it's been on a much larger scale. Like she, she made major sacrifices to be with him

and come to this station. And now he's saying, I will now do the same for you because you've done your time. And maybe it's time for us to, like I can't be 100% priority miles of Brian the entire time. Yeah. We have to do things for both of us. I realize I've been really busy on the station not looking for nerve gas.

But I'm ready to dedicate myself to you now. I mean, it's not all gauzy reconciliation here. Like, this is a a scene where Burial throws a punch at Cisco, who then gets punched out by a DAX because the sexual Mexican standoff has come to a head and like it's all out. Yeah, Quark has shown up with putting and it boils over for everybody. Quark makes a pass at Keko, that doesn't go well. I need you, Keko. My ears tingle on the side of you. She's about as horrified as we've ever seen her. Bashir and Kira are palling at each other in such a way that like,

it's almost Saturday night live-esque, like, when they do gross make outs on that show, like, they're like kissing the entirety of each other's faces in a comical way. It seems fun to be basher here. Yeah, but they figured out all of the puzzle pieces fall into place. And there's a nice like S edit where the camera is on an outrage looking a walk on a Troy at the party. We get the diagnosis and then we smash cut to six bay where Bessier is like, yeah, you have disease that is because of your telepathic powers, fucking with everybody around you. Yeah, and also, Cisco's like, don't go to Kira's later, maybe give it a couple of days. Great advice.

Yeah. Yeah, Cisco is like somehow kind of state above the fray and all of this. And for sure, it's like, okay, well, off to smash the major. And Cisco's like, why don't you take an extremely long pause on that, buddy? There's that thing he's experiencing

that I feel like is a little bit familiar, which is you have a drunk and make out with someone at a party and you assume that means like, oh, like we're gonna, we're gonna like go hang out again and like see where this goes, but it's just party make out. And that's it, like there's nothing beyond it. And Cisco has the good sense to recognize this in his council to Bashir.

Yeah, definitely like misinterpreted party make outs as now your my girlfriend a couple of times in my day. Yeah, that's that's a big mistake that Bashir is making here. Yeah. The button on the episode is a little bit of a walk through between Laxana and Odo wherein Laxana doesn't adult break up with him. Right, for a slide whistle of an entire episode, it is so surprising to see this ultra sincere button. It is so well done and she is so great in it. Like, really, Odo is super immature and has been from jump about his relationship to her. And it takes Luxana to be the adult in the room and to be like, you're obviously dealing with some shit that I can't contend with. But

as the adult, I'm just going to say, hey, I really think you're great. And I'm going to be here for you if you change your mind, which is a form of breakup that I think is, uh, it's what you want. It's what you hope they are and so rarely become. Right. Counterpoint to that is O'Brien seeing Kako off. They've clearly made up. And, uh, she makes it fairly clear that he still has the touch. Ben, the Kako touch.

Something about him she likes. I don't understand it. Ben, the Keko touch. Something about him she likes. I don't understand it. He's transported himself into her heart once again. Bashir meets O'Brien and we're sort of back to one, right? The relationship's been reset between them. With Keko gone, they can resume their friendship in earnest. And that's the end of the show.

Yeah. Did you like this episode? I'm looking at IMDB trivia right now at an Armin Schimmerman's least favorite Deep Space Nine episode. He was barely in it. Most of the main cast considered this among their favorite episodes.

Oh really? Because it was a light-hearted departure for the seasons overall story arc, involving the threat of Dominionus Hack. You need a palette cleanser, I guess. Yeah, and I guess the costume department loved it, because they got to kind of explore what all these people would wear in,

you know, out of uniform, which is fun. Yeah. I could totally see why a costume department would love sinking their teeth into this one. You know they review, what is yours? Corny is hell. And I think that the performances are all like extra fun. Like I can see everybody having fun making this. Right. But I don't see it as being a compelling story or an interesting story. Or, you know, if it's not compelling or interesting, like maybe it could move the plot line forward in a way that felt valuable and it doesn't do that.

It is at the very best, just a check-in between Kego and Miles and reminding everybody that LaWoxana still exists. But I think it's better than Meridian or whatever, but it's still corny. Yeah, I mean, boy, that's, that's a withering comparison. That's faint praise right there. I think if what's on the whiteboard for episode 10 is check in with O'Brien and Keko, you could do worse than this kind of palette cleanser. I got to believe it was so much fun to do this episode with Avery Brooks as director.

Like, yeah. If you're an actor and you're getting yourself into uncomfortable situations with your fellow actors, who better to guide you through that than another fellow actor? Like that had to be great. Do we need an episode like the naked now over and over again? Ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha. Something that's transparently so naked now especially. Right. There's a version of this where it's violent,

where the thing that walks on a Troy is going through is a different emotion. Right. Which I think might be worth experiencing, but that it's so familiar for the third time is unfortunate. But like we talked about before, Ben, the good scenes in this app are as good as anything we've seen in DS9, which is a miracle. And the miles and Kiko stuff that Avery Brooks has directed are great and really do a lot to humanize their relationship in a way that never was

before. You got his hands on it. So to that extent, I appreciate it. Yeah. I do too. I mean, I've got a I've got mixed feelings about it certainly, but I but interestingly, I like Meridian less than this app. So there you go. Ready and super fucking corny. You know it's never corny been. We never find corn in the stool of our priority one messages. Let's check them. Let us do it. Priority one message from Starfleet coming in on Secured Channel.

Need a supplement? A supplement? A supplement? A supplement. Yeah, it's extra. star fleet coming in on secured channel. I need a supplement on top of the month. Couple. Yeah, it's extra. The interest alone could be enough to buy this ship. Adam, our first priority one message is of a personal nature. It is from Mike and it is to Krista Shrimp Colgar. Goes like this. RSVP Frank J Colgar, hashtag greatest jet.

Don't forget to send the Obit to this online repository for World War II vet open suaries. What is going to text you a reminder, but this is a much more cost effective way to communicate. Mochis Drink, K Kels last Dr. Pepper. Kels says, go to hell! Eckerd and Mjöhm Kohlgar are fighting again. No solid lofes.

Keep it liquid. Rats. No solid lofes. What does that supposed to mean? They want a poo like you, not like me. How dare you. I couldn't tell if there was an actual remembrance of somebody who was past in that or not.

But if so, I'm very sorry to hear that. How'd you know how much sincerity to give that? No. The weird ASP1 and I guess, you know, coming from the mock slash coldgar verse, not surprising. Look at all. Ben our second priority when message is from Curtis, it is for Lisa. The message goes like this, ever since, I accidentally wore my comic con t-shirt out of the house and an awkward pre-teen tried to chat me up about it. I am no longer a little bit

embarrassed to listen to a Star Trek podcast. Thanks for the disturbing life-sized Spock sticker you put in my bathroom for your uncle. Now how do I trick you into listening to this message? Oh. So let me get this straight. Curtis shares a bathroom with Lisa's uncle. Let me Lisa was visiting and she was trying to make it, or maybe Lisa's uncle was visiting and she was trying to make it more festive But it also sounds like Lisa maybe isn't a listener, right Curtis is attempting to rectify

But Lisa for not being a listener gave Curtis the life-size sticker that was put in the bathroom right What a well she she gave it to the uncle What a complicated web we weave. Yeah, yeah. Not realizing the Curtis is as much a Trek fan as her uncle perhaps. Hmm. Hmm.

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Balls Guy acting as a transition between the exterior of Quarx Bar where he's selling pans and the interior of Quarx Bar. Yeah, we see Balls Guy more than once, right? Balls Guy is, there was a time when Balls Guy was at, was at like dances and raves and stuff like balls guy was a type of guy and I don't necessarily like balls guy, but balls guys hilarious. This was peak balls guy time in the timeline, right? Yeah Yeah, and just seeing balls guy for as often as we do in this episode

Yeah, and just seeing Balls Guy for as often as we do in this episode. I mean, I'm sure Balls Guy is great in real life, but like the circusification of this episode. I'm sure he has a lot of interesting prog rock posters in his bedroom. Yeah. I'm sure he smokes a lot of clove cigarettes. I'm sure he has some really passionate theories about what the best Mars and Mystery album is. I'm sure he's the type of guy who gets to his day job

back and forth on one of those weird uniballs that he puts his feet into and rides around town on. Yeah, balls guy. That's my Shimoda. Who's yours? My Shimoda is Keko O'Brien. Keko is a great lady. Does something I think is kind of unforgivable in this in this episode, which is you know, you get off the airplane, you go down the jetway into the terminal, and what does she do?

She gets right to the precipice of the jetway and plops herself down on the steps. And I understand she's tired, she's got Molly, Molly is barfing. Yeah, barfie Molly, not a good Molly. But is that an action figure you can get? Mollie with action, barf action. But Kiko, you gotta get out of that doorway.

That's where people are trying to get off the airplane. You're holding, you know, got a time holding up a dollar here. That's the way. Get out of the airlock doorway Kiko. That is no good. Keep moving, get out of the airlock doorway, Kiko. That is no good. Keep moving or get out of the way. That's one B for the coral areas to the first rule of Greatest Gen. Yeah, we're adding to the list.

We've got amendments to the Constitution, Ben. I like it. You want to take a look at what our next episode is, Adam? See what we got in store and in what mine state we will be as we explore it. What it is, Ben. Well, the next episode is first of a two-parter, Adam. It is past tense, Part 1. It's a season three, Episode 11. Unroot to a symposium in San Francisco. Cisco, Dax and Bashir are lost during transport to Earth from the defiant. And another major streaming platform has described

it as this. A transporter accident sends Cisco, Bashir and D, three centuries back in time to a crucial point in Earth's history. Oh. This is a famous story, Arkadim. I'm really excited about this. I don't know anything about it. It is whoopi Goldberg, a part of this. And I do believe, Mock Twain, perhaps. That is a, that would be more centuries back than we're going back.

Okay. All right. This is, they're being set back to what is still the future for us, but is the distant past for them. Oh, all right. It's, this is a fun episode. I'm looking forward to this. So you're a Saiyan.

I'm not welcome. Never. Never are you welcome. All right. Roll the never are you welcome. All right, roll them bones, Ben. We're on, we're on square 19 right now. We've got a couple of, a couple of speed bumps ahead. We've got a butthole very close. We've got a banger very close.

Those are the only two things that we could, we could hit. But both of those potentially send us back quite a ways. You're required to learn as you play. Roll. I've rolled a three. Shula! Did I win? Which skips us over the space butthole into the warm embrace of square 22, which is a regular old episode from your buddies, Ben and Adam. Oh, those are the best. We're on a good run of those right now, aren't we?

Yeah, we've stripped a lot of the Quirks bars out of the game board. Yeah. Cause, you know, one in every 10 episodes maybe more than our livers can handle. Yeah. And, yeah. How dare you call our viewers livers? Well, that's, that's the

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