The Greatest Generation - Once a Vigilante, Always a Vigilante (DS9 S5E11)

Episode Date: October 28, 2019

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The Star Trek podcast by a couple of guys who are a little bit embarrassed about having a Star Trek podcast I'm Adam Pranica I'm Fendereson, you seem a little rung out Adam Are you having a week? I have four days to put into a one day bag. You're not going on today. Oh man, you should have spoken up. We could have canceled this.

We don't have to record this dumb podcast. Like as soon as the show is over, I'm throwing down my cans and I'm just tearing out of the driveway. Oh wow. It's that kind of thing. Well, we both needed to start a little earlier than anticipated. So I'm glad we're getting it done.

Yeah. Be productive. That's satisfying, right? Ha ha ha. Going through all the little tick lists on the to-do. Adam, I was out at a birthday dinner for a family member last night. We were driving home.

Did you go to family Mexican restaurant? You know it. Yeah. Yeah, there was actually like some discussion of that last night where they were trying to remember very momentous birthdays in various family members' lives and they were trying to remember very momentous birthdays in various family members lives. And they were like all blurring together for them because they'd all been celebrated at the same restaurant. Did you tell any of them the story of our of our friend of the podcast Phil who thought

for a while that your wife's family owned a family Mexican restaurant. Hahaha. Such was their interest in going to family Mexican restaurants as often as they do. I think she refers to it as her restaurant. So it was a fair misunderstanding for him to have. Yeah, did that delight your family? I have not told her that yet. I need to tell her that today.

That'll kill. We're driving home. And I said, I to, I'll tell her that today. That'll kill. We're driving home. And I said, I guess, I don't know, when we were talking about the tour or something, but I said something about how I had to record the episode today. And my wife lights me up. It starts doing an impression of me doing this podcast. What? She's not given to doing bits at him.

I don't even ever heard her doing impressions. She's a very funny lady, but like dragging me in the medium of doing an impression of me is not her way. She had me rolling. Wow. So it was a good impression? Do you want to hear some examples? Yeah.

Her impression is a very specific construction and she just did this over and over again for like, she gave me five solid minutes of, hey Adam, you wanna talk about Jim Shimoda? Hey Adam, you wanna go to the hat we have still? Hey Adam, what's the deal with Kevin? Hey Adam, RSVP Smok. Hey Adam, let's talk about the entrepreneur

and she had just a zillion specific things like that. You know, I can understand her being a little bristly about it, given that like half of the examples you gave were jokes that your wife inadvertently came up with. A lot of this year originates with her. Yeah. Wow. Yeah, it was, it was really something else. My wife ignores the show's existence in a hostile way. Like she doesn't, she doesn't come at it directly the way your wife does and making fun of it. It is just silently judged.

Yeah, and that hurts more, I think. I think I'd rather be made fun of directly. Yeah, well, your wife has definitely made fun of you while I was around for it. Oh, yeah. She loves it. I think that the difference is, my wife listens to friendly fire and enjoys it. Right.

That's not a rubecting your wife is willing to cross. There is not a podcast I could make that would entice my wife to listen. The Adam loves his wife. Fun time, happy hour. Yeah. The private podcast that's just created for her, she wouldn't listen to that. She's the only person that even has the RSS feed. Yeah.

It's called Not So Bad. bad hosted by Adam Brandica. I was just, I was blown away mostly because she has never listened to the show and yet she's heard enough of it that she had a lot of specifics to throw in my face. Yeah, that's surprising. It was really, it was interesting. I was... How did you go when you made fun of her and did an impression of her, Ben? I don't believe I did. Exactly.

Yeah. I mean, but she's like a real, she's a real grown up with a real job, so. Yeah, nothing to make fun of there. She's gonna make fun of. job so. Yeah nothing to make fun of there. Make fun of. Wow well Ben's wife I know you're not listening so you won't hear me say stop making fun of my friend Ben. Fuck you. Hey that's my wife we're talking about. I'm just trying to make podcasts with my friends. It's fun to do bad things.

Uh, well, gee. What kind of tone does that start as often, Ben? The dark tone or the light tone? Oh, interesting. Maybe a little bit of both. It's the Charisqiro. Yeah. A little bit about.

Sure is. A little bit of Colomé, a little bit of Colom B. I think that's what we get in today's episode 2. Let's go ahead and talk about season 5 episode 11. The darkness and the light. Do you realize how incredible this is? No, of course you don't. This is the first Brian Fuller story-credited episode, Ben. Ahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahah Right. Is he been in the room the whole time or did he get hired mid season? Oh no. It seems like last episode was like a fairly

momentous app. And like maybe like they come back from the Christmas break and they kick into high gear or something. Hmm. I don't know. Brian Fuller goes into Iris Steven Bear's office, comes out like covered in blue paint. Well, I have to talk to somebody in the HR department.

The bad news is whatever happened in there, the good news is I'm getting story credit for the darkness and the light. Iris Stephen Bear has two buttons under his desk, one that locks the door and one that dumps a bucket of blue paint. So fucked up. Yeah. Speaking of getting blasted at him, there's some beddocks atoning for some sins, they get blasted, or specifically one of them gets blasted across the room. Get the feeling that one of the most rare ways to die is during a freak praying accident. That happens here.

Yeah, certainly does. This is some kind of a Vedic retreat or whatever. And yeah, this guy gets knocked across the room. It sort of looks like the candle is shooting him. Yeah. We don't really get to see what the source is, but... What do you think? That's like a billion candle power.

It's a great wire stunt, right? Yeah. You really get to rocked. I like that. I like seeing a jerk cable. Yeah. This news reaches Major Kira on Deep Space 9. In the infirmary, she's there for one of her prenatal checkups.

Bashir is scolding her for not taking some herbs that he told her to take. Julie, in those herbs tastes like something that crawled out of Quirks' ears. Just take them. All right. They counteract some drug that he also gave her that's supposed to help her get to sleep. And she's been having a tough time catching shut eye. She's been scolded back into taking these herbs and Odo walks in and says, Hey, listen, you know this Vedic.

He did. They speculate as to why because he's a man that had kind of a violent past, but he got religion. Yeah, he wasn't a part of. He was a part of the Shakar resistance cell with Kira. Yeah. Yeah. So he's been peaceful ever since. And so it's sort of hard to understand at this point in time why he would be a target for murder. Right. But pretty hot on the heels of this becomes clear that this is a like zodiac type killer because Kira gets, gets email from an unknown source that identifies this Vedic as being the first one. Or I guess that's one, right?

Right. I mean, you can interpret that as being he was the first. It was the first of several. That's the message on her voice mailbox, right? It's like someone being like, that's one. I mean, the first, that's one. I mean, the first one that I do of like, probably more, what I'm trying to say is this is gonna be a series,

a series of dead people that I, I should start this over. I should keep it simpler. I should just say just one, right? Oh, is this one of those answering machines where you can push your button to erase the message and start over? Fuck.

F***. That's what should be happening here. But instead, it's far more dark. Maybe the darkest part of this moment is the idea that in the 24th century future, a robo-colleys possible, and this is probably a circumstance when you get off of work at the station, you're probably listening to a lot of bullshit messages. Yeah.

This is very troubling, and yeah, they don't know where it came from, so the mystery atom is a foot. The thinking by Odo Sisco and Kira is that all of the old Shikar resistance cell fighters could be in danger. This is what they infer from that's one. Yeah, but I thought it was so weird that they discussed that and discussed specifically that it is the

Shakar resistance cell, and never discussed the fact that the head of state for Beijor, Shakar, is one of those people. Exactly. At the same time, I was like, cool, we're going to get a Shakar episode. I wonder what that guy's up to. You're wrong. And you're dumb for thinking then. Yeah, idiot.

So stupid. Later in the Reppelamat, O'Brien sits down with Kira. Kira is looking like someone preoccupied with issues like why Shikar isn't in this episode. Right. He's concerned about her. I feel like O'Brien is a man that we haven't really seen too much of lately. He's concerned about Kira, asks how she's doing. Kira is pissed at how Latham Maybrin went out. Yeah.

It's just not right. And nobody going to jing. That's bullshit. That's bullshit. That's bullshit. That's bullshit. The Rhine is here, and this is a bit of a pattern that he's established for the last several episodes that he's here to be patriarchy man,

and treat Kira like she is less important than his unborn child that's inside her. Yeah, not a great look. Don't like it. You get the sense that they don't talk much with their home together, right? Given that they're having this conversation and the repulment.

Yeah, and she's saying like, she's giving voice to like a very intense conflict in her that she identifies as a soldier, as a major in the militia, and as a capable person who is willing and able to violently counteract her enemies. And here she is at late-term pregnancy, and that has completely hamstrung her. It's not something she ever asked for, and she feels like her friends are in danger. She wants to go defend them, and she can't.

I'm glad she's giving voice to this, because for the entire season, we've been kind of made to forget this. She's been waddling around the promenade, pregnant and barefoot and being condescended to by the O'Brien's. And you forget that she's a soldier after a certain amount of time. And she's like, no, don't ever forget that. Right. I really love that that becomes part of the central the central motivation in what she does in this episode because it makes it a very strong episode for Kira I think. Their conversation gets interrupted by Odo who gets on the intercom saying, Kira, there's a call for you online one.

Kira, call for you online one. Please pick up the white courtesy telephone major. So she hops up to Ops and it's a call from Fala who is terrified. She's paranoid about people listening in to the face time. They're like trying to trace the call and figure out where Fala is and Fala is like, somebody's trying to trace this call. Yeah. Here's like, you're not paranoid. That's really happening. So Kira convinces the peeps at ops that she can take this one in private.

It's not a problem. Right. There's nothing for them to worry about. And so she talks to she's like full-a is not a dangerous person so she she has this conversation in private and It's the law saying I'm super worried somebody's trying to trying to kill me and she says okay, well my my crewmates

Wharf and Dax are actually heading back to the station from a conference and are actually heading back to the station from a conference and barring them being abducted or body snatched. I'm going to have them stop at Bejor and pick you up so that you can be here close to me and we can protect you. Boy, Dax really went back to another planet with Worf quickly after the whole incident on Rysa, right? Yeah. I think I kind of patched things up. What if saw the folly of his ways? Ollie does his ruined vacations and conferences from now on. Does Dax's hair change concurrently with the uniform change?

Oh, I hadn't noticed that. Or did her hair change before that? One thing I noticed about the uniform change is that they really gave DAX a form fitting one. It almost looks like it's been corsetized around her midsection. The gentleman decidedly dumpy uniforms and DAX is quite figure revealing. One unifying costume theory about them all though is that they don't look comfortable. They just look The thing that's not really that's not really that's not that's not really that's not really that's not really that's not really that's not really that's not

really that's not really that's not really that's not really that's not really that's not really that's not really that's not really that's not really that's not really that's not really that's not really that's not really that's not really that's not really that's they would say, sorry, we can't do that. So Kira promises Fala that Wurf and Dax will scoop her up, bring her to deep space nine,

and all will be well. But what she does not anticipate is that the runabout that Wurf and Dax are on has a transporter that is set to extra crispy because they start to beam full up and she starts to convulse and they are punching buttons with rapidity and what materializes on the platform is a smoking mess of hair and burnt clothes and skin. The beaming does not go well. Enterprise. Yeah. She does. I love the, I love the, the like two different, like it's, it's Bashir and another medical person doing tricorder on this pile of bones and, and ash. And they're like, sorry, I don't think there's anything we can do. I'm pretty sure she's, she's gone.

I don't think there's anything we can do. I'm pretty sure she's gone. Yeah, I don't think CPI is going to help. I mean, you could try. Fala dies in a smoking heap. It's a little more gourd than we've seen on Deep Space 9 lately. Yeah, it is a lean into it. It is a remake amount of gore. Yeah.

Also, I don't know if this is a Michael Doran thing or a wharf thing, but he does not sell the urgency of the situation very well during this beam up, I think. If you look at what his hands are doing at his station, I think you gotta be punching buttons a little harder there. Really sell the concern, Worf. He's like, he's like, this is actually like a pretty honorable death, so I'm not going to do too much to intervene. Like, that's, isn't it the most honorable

death I can think of, but I wouldn't want somebody to intervene if this was me. So there's something about the pain aspect of Phalaz death that probably really speaks to Warf. Yeah, he's into it. Yeah. So Kira has a pretty heavy moment where she processes the death of this lady and she she approaches the corpse and hits triangle to pick up the earring. She approaches the corpse and hits triangle to pick up the earring. She loots the corpse and the earring is worth like 20 cents. Oh yeah, yeah. She goes to a merchant when she gets back to the town and sell it. She's got to go to a fence.

Yeah, she's got a, she's got thousands of these things, but she's finally got enough to get the next best sword. Right. As soon as she picks up the earring, like there's a red pejoran logo that flashes on the screen. Yeah. So so she tells a little story about Fulac. Because they're like, what the hell? She wasn't in Chicago resistance cell.

Like we know who was in that. And we've never heard her name. And she says, well, not as such, but she was kind of our hour number one spy. She was a maid. Like, this is kind of like a, a dry face affair style spy thing where she was a maid in a, some Cardassian's office. She cleaned the floors and she would, you know would be treated like the help, like she was not even there, and she would pick up little tidbits of information and pass them onto the resistance cell. And in so doing, did her part for a gotten country to further the cause of the Bajaran resistance.

The Cardassians are dumb because you need to vet your cleaning crews maybe with more scrutiny than anyone else, right? Sure. But I mean, you're taking out your trash, they're shredding your documents? Yeah, I mean, the cardacians looked at what the monthly cost would be to retain the services of Iron Mountain and just seemed a little prohibitive, so they decided not to do it. That was their downfall.

They'd probably still be occupying Bajor to this day if they'd been a little bit more radical about their security procedures. Do you think anyone lives on Iron Mountain? No, it's impossible to live there because you get cut both in the vertical and the horizontal. That thing can process everything up to big-size paperclips. Right. Yeah. But not food waste, Adam. Do not put food waste in the Iron Mountain box.

It's not what Iron Mountain is for. Go to Kotlin. Go to Kotlin. So, Later on, Kira is walking on the promenade, and she hears the same voice from before. She hears answering machine voice and it's coming from Quarks. Yeah.

This is just a subtle quark is always spying on everybody. Like he's like, oh yeah, I was just accidentally hacked into your email and I opened it. Meanwhile, they continue to stunt cast Arm and Shimmerman, putting him through the grueling hours of in the makeup chair to give him his one scene in a deep space nine episode. Yeah, it seems like he's gotten a couple of new costumes lately too. Yeah, it's weird how they give all the Starfleet's new costumes. And Kira has a new

Bedurin Milisha costume, but nobody else in the Bedurin Milisha has a new costume. It's like she has like a special one-off uniform that only she ever gets. Yeah, what gives? I don't understand that. That's not good costuming. Now. Like I like the costume, but I don't think it's good costuming like that they didn't do it for everyone. Yeah. She hears the voice say that's two and it's coming from a pad that

quark got out of a case of wine or something. It seems clear that he attempted to keep the pad for himself. Right. Knowing that it was meant for Kira, but Kira snatches it out of Quark's hand in horror because that's two can only mean one thing. Someone else is dead. That's Fala, right? And she's number two. Yeah. It's mocking.

Yeah. So Kira takes the pad into Odo's office and Odo speculates that the killer is someone who may have been injured By the Shikar resistance by one of the many Shikar resistance attacks and then like and she's the only one getting these messages too So yeah, this is clearly about somebody that has an axe to grind with the Shikar resistance generally and her specifically Right, but they don't get very far along in the conversation before the screens in Odo's office go crazy. There's three plays out of the speakers and then a picture of Mobara appears.

Aha, you didn't say the magic word. Oh yeah! Kira is irate because this is just being, like it's teasing her, this entire thing. It's making her feel crazy. Well, and it's also just like really awful security, Odo, that you don't have control over the computers in your own office. Right.

Right. He gets a bunch of pop-up screens with pictures of Mobara. It's not a good look. What Odo does do is issue her an escort. This is a lieutenant that walks her back to Casa de Obrayan, where once she goes into her bedroom, she hears a bump from outside. Yeah, and there's a pretty fun scene

where she's sneaking around with a pistol in the dark. I think it goes to commercial and then comes back from commercial in the midst of this scene. Like that is the level of tension we're dealing with here. And when she gets the lights on, her security detachment has like a boot on his neck and for Elle and lou paza the chicarr resistance people from the uh... the chicarr episode

are uh... are the people that have have gotten the drop on them i love these guys yeah over for some own or copy we pretty awesome everyone i know as a big but recognize those boobs anywhere. Yeah. Almost an incident of friendly fire though. Right.

Yeah. That would be terrible. Can't have that. One thing I noticed about for a list that I- Is there anything worse than friendly fire? I don't know. Maybe the greatest discovery. Yeah, maybe.

Maybe. One thing I noticed about Ferella is that he lets his chain hang long. I'm still going to get that thing caught in a machine, Ben. Oh, yeah. I don't understand the decision. If you're a resistance fighter, I think you've got to keep it tight.

What do you think the etiquette is surrounding getting an MRI on page or? Yeah, if you if you work at a scrap metal yard, you're definitely not using one of those giant magnets, right? You're using the scooper. Yeah, it is really nice to see these guys Yeah, and you feel safer with them around, right? Like they feel like a like they're as bad ass as anybody and they're going to they're going to see to it that this is that this is dealt with. And it's good that they are here working with Kira on solving this problem. It's the tension leaves, right? Like like they're like laughing with each other

the second they recognize each other. Well, that's kind of magical, isn't it? Because they've just kicked the ass of Lieutenant Brilgar who like comes to rubbing his head and his neck. They're like, oh yeah, you can go back outside and keep guarding us. Yeah, like the tone of this, this scene is great and crazy and unlikely for that reason,

right? But it's the strength of Lupaza and Farell that make it possible. Yeah. And the fact that they're familiar faces and that they're also really good actors, really sells this. Yeah. They make the case that waiting for the authorities is not going to make Kira feel any better, and it would be best if Lupaza and Ferrell were, when it's time, the ones to do the deed

to get this person whenever they find them. So they're going to stick around. Waiting for the authorities is not their way. Yeah. As a vowed resistance fighters, they are not going to leave this to a bureaucracy to solve. It's like being a Marine, right? Once a vigilante, always a vigilante.

There is, at the very end of this scene, I want to call attention to what I am going to call a bad edit. O'Brien comes home, Lupaza and Ferrell point their weapons at him, and then we cut to Kira saying, hold it, it's all right. And this is, I think you've heard, if you're a viewer out there who has an interest in video production, might have heard us refer to things like J cuts or L cuts. And I think this is

a straight cut that should have been a J because the moment we cut from O'Brien to Kira's dialogue is long enough that it destroys the tension of that moment. And I think if that's a J cut and you hear Kira's dialogue before cutting to her, I think that's how the scene should have been edited. What do you think? Yeah, I think it's, I think it's a tricky edit, but they didn't nail it because it also lingers on O'Brien's face for too long. Right. To get his react, but you don't know if Lupazet and Ferrell are answering all stop, you know? Yeah, it's shot as if O'Brien's safe the whole time. And if what you want to do is make it a pass

and like another friendly fire possibility, like that's going to be cut faster. Right. Yeah, you need to take that across the finish line with a lot of abandon. Right. Boy, that's a tough thing with TV, too, because you can't count on people being as wrapped in their attention as they are in a film.

Yeah. Like, people watching TV are doing other shit a lot of the time. Yeah. So. It makes me wonder if they did try it that way, and it didn't, and it clanged for some reason. Right. Like to see, to see real stress doubled

versus real stress and then relieved tension later, it just might have played better tonally. I wonder if they didn't get the coverage, right? Because there's, this scene plays out in a double on Furell and Lupazza that then pans over to a single on O'Brien. Cuts to a single on Kira, cuts back to the single on O'Brien and then cuts to the double on Lupazza and Furell.

It's three tight shots. And it's a little jumpy too because when you see O'Brien and then cuts to Kira, they're the same size in the frame. There's no establishing that they can go to as far as I can tell. Yeah, I almost feel like when you go to O'Brien, you need to cut back to a three shot. Right, like a wide of the whole space of gear going, like don't, yeah, like, and then you'd get the whole, the timing of everything. Yeah.

And then you could go back to a close up of either a Brian or, or Lupazan for L, like, like, relax. I think that's a great observation by you. I think this was coverage dictating how the scene cut together. Yeah, and surprising you wouldn't get it in establishing, but maybe, you know, like television production is really hard and you know I have time to get everything I want. Yeah.

Let's stay tall. I don't use the bucket anymore. So Mabara is confirmed dead. They found his body with a, or what is left of it. It looks like. They hid the spotty probably. Yeah, they've, somebody implanted an explosive behind his ear

and it went off. That is fucked up. An explosive nub in Ben. Fuck. Ouch. Not a nice way to go out. Odo and Cisco agree that Kira will be the final target. And all of this is meant for her to witness. Pretty dark that.

Yeah. And, and you know, it's, they're pretty sure it's somebody that has an X to grind and Odo is saying like, this is somebody who takes this super personally and is trying to make a point, specifically to Major Kira. It's a new behavior to sort by. So, she's in a lot of danger. At Ops, they're trying to solve the mystery of where these messages have come from. And it's Dax and Nag working this problem problem along with Kira, who is observing them from behind.

Nag is surprisingly hopeful. Yeah, his giant ears come in super handy. He has an ability to detect subtle things about sound that made me think of like the way, you know, dogs sense of smell is described as being, you know, incredibly finely tuned and subtle. Yeah. I think the scene is great because they slow drip the tension out in such a way that that you start locking pieces into place. a way that you start locking pieces into place. And once the final piece clicks in, it is the knowledge that it's been Kira's own voice that has been used against her. It was her being processed to sound like a computer man. Can I hear the rest of the words? That's why. That's too. That's right.

It's me. And then as soon as they realize this, an explosion has gone off in Casa de O'Brien. And everything goes crazy from here to the end of the episode. Kira goes into total rage mode and she kicks a ton of ass on her way to the O'Brien. She punches out like five guys on the way. There are security guys going to get their hands around her neck. They are trying to stop her from opening the door

and venting the whole compartment into space. She's basically like on a DS9 speed run after grabbing a star and Mario Brothers. She's straight up running through people. It's great. Yeah, but we all know that that star runs out eventually. You don't want to be touching a Koopa Troopa when it happens. Here passes out and she wakes up in the infirmary

with Dr. Bersier leaning over her. And she's quite worried at first about the baby. He explains that she had some hemorrhaging and he's been able to repair the damage, but she needs to not stress herself like that. I really like how this scene is shot. It makes the infirmary look like a totally different place than what we've seen before. And I love the way it's lit, especially. I think that's the reason it looks the way it does. It makes the case for this being kind of after hours or something like that, but she's

definitely been given a, you know, a biobad that's out kind of by itself. This is a scene where an avisator delivers an audition monologue. Yeah. And it is a oneer that pushes all the way in honor for the duration. Yeah. This is what you do when you have an anavisator. Right. You can let her be very small in the frame and still quite captivating, and she will keep

the scene compelling all the way through to getting really tight on her and Odo. And the tear running down her cheek onto the bed and then running down the bed, I thought it was like amazing. Yeah, it's nuts. She's, I mean, she has such control over her body. She always has as a great actor does, but like the ability to squeeze tears out in a strategic manner is like, like, so next level. Yeah. And Lupaza and Ferrell are dead and she's talking about

what they meant to her and what being a resistance fighter meant to her and where her tenacity came from, like what made her who she is. And this is her talking about her first raid. And it's really incredible. Yeah, this feels like a monologue that could be used for auditions. There's a lot going on. I feel like you would unfairly bias the casting director against yourself if you started talking about Cardassians. It's a very specific casting director

that would appreciate this, but. But fuck, like, I opened up the script for this episode and I scrolled to this part and this is this is one and a half pages of straight dialogue for Nanavisator and she's got it memorized. Because of course she's a fucking pro, but like all the nuance that she brings to it, But like all the nuance that she brings to it, all of the emotion that's there, the stages of emotion even, because it starts kind of neutral and then at times it even gets not joyful,

but there's like, they win a battle and there's joy there, but then there's sadness and then there's the idea of at the end being invited into the resistance a thing she's always wanted to be. And, it's it's really really well done. It's well written and it's well delivered. Like being an actor is very tempting to a lot of people just because it's like fun to imagine being on TV. The reason that somebody like Nanavisitor is great is that she's willing to go to a place that is terribly

uncomfortable to sell a scene like this. And it's like the reason, like when I see a scene like this, I'm like, oh thank goodness, I don't want to be an actor. Yeah, like does it still sound fun? Person who with an interest in acting because this is what it takes to be great. Like, like, with an interest in acting because this is what it takes to be great. Like, like, like, this is, like, she is living the pain of what she's talking about in this scene. Yeah. The idea that Kira's earring came from that mission and Lopiz was the one who made it is a really nice, really nice piece of backstory. It has great significance. I'm a rei. Come to a fort. I'm a rei. Come to a fort. I'm a rei. Come to a fort. I'm a rei. Come to a fort. I'm a rei. Come to a fort. I'm a rei. Come to a fort. I'm a rei. Come to a fort. I'm a rei. Come to a fort. I'm a rei. Come to a fort. I'm a rei. Come to a fort. I'm a rei. Come to a fort. I'm a rei. Come to a fort. I'm a rei. Come to a fort. I'm a rei. Come to a fort. I'm a rei. Come to a fort. I'm a rei. Come to a fort. I'm a rei. Come to a fort. I'm a rei. Come to a fort. I'm a rei. Come to a fort. I'm a rei. Come to a fort. I'm a rei. Come to a fort. I'm a rei. Come to a fort. I'm a rei. Come to a fort. I'm a rei. Come to a fort. I'm a rei. Come to a fort. I'm a rei. Come to a fort. I'm a rei. Come to a fort. I'm a rei. Come to a fort. I'm a rei. Come to a fort. I'm a rei. Come to a fort. I'm a rei. Come to a fort. I'm a rei. Come to a fort. I'm a rei. Come to a fort. I'm a rei. Come to a fort. I'm a rei. Come to a fort. I'm a rei. Come to a fort. I'm a rei. Come to a fort. I'm a rei. Come to a fort. I'm a rei. Come to this episode. Yeah, a cooler class Hunter Killer probes, Ben.

Conzone on, you contact bearing 0.97. That's what got that Vedic at the beginning. That's what got Lupazet and Feral and the O'Brien's quarters. These Hunter probes are everywhere. Yeah, kind of shocking how easily they can be obtained and utilized. And how like defenseless they seem to be against them, right? Like this thing was stuck to the hull of some ship that happened to dock at the station,

and then went around the station looking in windows until it found who it wanted to kill. Yeah, I mean, you need to suspend some disbelief here when the story gets retold, because the idea of a probe cruising around windows looking in and identifying who's inside for as long as it would have to do so in order to complete its mission. What's the sensor situation on Deep Space 9?

Why wasn't this thing picked up? I mean, you need like a polytradeys to be able to stop a hunter probe, probably. He would catch that shit. And then the Fremen would love him. You saved my life and we'd fremen him by our bets. He's got Fremen's and low places. 25 people are on Odo's list of suspects at this point. And he's not going to give those names to Kira.

He knows that if he were to do so, it would activate her vigilante. people are on Odo's list of suspects at this point, and he's not going to give those names to Kira. He knows that if he were to do so, it would activate her vigilante nature. She would go kill all 25 just to be safe. Odo and her kind of like sit in that moment of mutual recognition like, yeah, can't do that. And Kira's like, nope. And then Odo's like, yeah, I would do that and Kiri is like, nope. And the notice was like, yeah,

I would definitely kill all those people. Yeah, yeah. And he walks out and then she walks over to a computer, site to site transports to his office, gets the list and then transports out of his office as he comes around the corner and he sees that his desk chair is a little bit out of place, asks the computer where Kira is and she is no longer on the station. Like she gone.

If you had any doubts about how hardcore Major Kira is, Kira saw a close friend use a transporter and then get burned to his crisp. She, the same day, uses site-to-site transport in order to accomplish her mission here. Yeah. Like, the Lathamabran incident did not discourage reviews. That's for sure. And she's gone, gone. Like, they try to like scan for the dwarf signature

of the runabout she took. And she has scrambled the pattern. Yeah. And we catch up with her. And she's like, at some planet, you know, the runabout she took and she has scrambled to pattern. Yeah. We catch up with her and she's like at some planet on the Cardassian frontier. She's down to name four on the list. This is Salar and Prin that she's looking into. Presumably, she's killed three people. But this is a real dumpy like Ceti Alpha 5 in Ceti Alpha 6's orbit type of planet.

Yeah, sure is. And she puts down in this outpost, she's got a phaser in a tricorder and she is looking for Salar and Prin and this is this has real like haunted house vibes where we see a kardassian lurking in the shadows we see a a burned and mangled hand a we see a hollodacian? Yeah. A hallodacian comes out, she vaporizes that, but then she is incapacitated by a solar and print. And a solar and print asks, is she a great pregnant person? Gets her up on a chair, puts her in a binder field of some kind. So it puts the lursher in the brisk.

There is a feeling here that I want to interrogate with you. And that is when a woman is immobilized by a man. There is an implied sexual violence on the table here. And I definitely felt that at this moment, like there was fear for Kira on a lot of levels, but that was part of it in a fucked up way. Yeah, the way the like the the the chair that is selected feels very like gynecological examine. Right. It's the it's the posture of the chair. I think that that makes that happen. Yeah, I think that that's an unfortunate element of this of this scene because this is supposed to be about a resistance fighter and her former colonizer coming into conflict.

And the fact that it has some male sexual violence overtones is, I think, complicates it in the wrong way. Prin is doing that thing that bad guys do, which is rant, rant very poetically and academically, even. And he's kind of nuts, right? Like he doesn't. Yeah. Obviously, he's nuts and got an extra grind, but he's also not in his right mind just in general.

Yeah, and it takes Kira a while to sort of get, like have him get to the point. She doesn't really understand what his deal is. Right. The police around here don't seem to have the first clue. Print finally confesses that he's pissed about who Kira has killed. He's pissed that Kira shows no regret for what she's done. And he's pissed maybe most of all for what she's done to his face because he reveals a real phantom of the opera face as he steps into the light and then tells his story, a story that goes like

he used to work for a girl cleaning his uniforms. Yeah, he was like a dry cleaner. He was just a civilian. Yeah. And he was the target. This goal was the target of the Shikar resistance. And Prim was collateral damage. He makes the case that he was as a non-combatant his conscience is clean on the fact that the Kardashians were occupying Beijor. And she's coming back at him with like, if you were on Beijor, you were a legitimate target.

Like, you didn't, your whole species shouldn't have been there. Like, we were occupied for 50 years. Yeah. And he just doesn't see it that way. Like, he can't wrap his mind around the idea that any participation in that at all was an injustice. Here's the thing, if you're whether you're a press secretary or a dry cleaner, you're complicit.

If you're part of the administration, that is the occupier, that is the one doing all of the bad things. Right, like you don't get to wear a neon green salsa outfit and your crimes are commuted. No. More, more! More! The young green salsa outfit and your crimes are commuted. It doesn't take long before he pivots into the idea of murdering Kira but separating the child from her first in order to raise it. Raise it as his own and with his set of values. And he like, he wheels a cart around with surgical equipment

and prepares for a non-consensual C section. She's making the case like you don't know this, this baby is not mine. It's a human baby. It doesn't have like you're not, you're not gonna know what to do with it. It's, this is not a. It's a human baby. It doesn't have like, you're not, you're not going to know what to do with it. It's, uh, this is not a crime you're committing against me. It's against somebody else. But also then please give me some sedative. Don't be, don't be that cruel.

And that's persuasive to him. Like he, he thinks of himself as being on the moral high ground. And so he's going to stay on the moral high ground by administering a sedative to her, and he does, and then turns off the binder field. And what we've established earlier in the episode is that those bailiives that Kira has to take for her estrogen levels as a counteractive effect on sedatives. So the general anesthetic that he's given her doesn't work. Adam. No, and she commences with the ass kicking. Lauren Pring gets his ass handed to him. She phasers him. She's got the phaser set unlike chest puncture wound. Right. Which I feel like you could stun and imprison, but she sets the kill. You know, it's an interesting point because I bet you, they thought a lot

about the possible outcome here and what Kira would or would not do. Like I bet there, I mean, I bet there was an idea on the table where, where Kira shoots him until she runs out of ammo, like over and over again, or she stuns him with the idea of taking him to prison later. I think there's a spectrum of outcomes here that I think you could make the case for. Yeah, I mean, I think that maybe one of the weakest parts of the episode is that Kira stole a run about and went and killed somebody and there are no consequences or any there are no consequences or any discussion of like repercussions that would fall on her for having kind of extra-dugiously done this. But also the fact that

it was a kill and not a stun. I don't know. I think that I understand why she does it on a human level very much, but I don't understand why everybody reacts like, wow, that was intense. Well, back to work. You know, on a human level, Ben, I wish you could hear yourself. And their name is racist. Ben, the button on the episode does not illuminate this any further because Odo Bashir and Sisco beamed down to find Kira.

They find her squatting next to the body and it's Kira describing what happened. The circumstances that it made it possible for her to save herself and her unborn baby and there is no I mean they don't Odo and Bashir and Cisco are there to listen right they're not there to make her feel bad for what she's done Yeah, even though they probably have caused to do so and that is really how abrupt the episode ends You're asking a lot of questions that there just isn't time to ask or answer at the end because as soon as we realize that she's okay and that the little D is an orbit, that's when the episode's over.

She seems a little crazed to me. The way she's talking very much mimics what Prin was talking like. A light only shines in the dark, and sometimes innocence is just an excuse for the guilty. It feels very much like this isn't the time or the place to ask those questions. Well, I'll ask a different question than Adam. Does she like the episode? I think this episode does a couple of things. It, I've been missing an avisator a lot lately. I think she's been written out of the episodes in season five for obvious reasons,

like her pregnancy is a factor. Right. And I get that. It doesn't make me miss her any less. Yeah, she had the baby already, right? So now she's nothing in pregnancy suit. What this episode may be understand now, maybe more than at any other point is just how you can't overuse her.

Nanavisa, Nanavisa Tour is too powerful to deploy in your story all the time. And this is an episode. She's a nuclear option. I think this episode is the reason why. She takes over the episode and is so good that I think she could easily be the star of Deep Space Nine, like the biggest star of it, if she were in more A stories. And I think she's just, I think the order of importance of the characters is such that like, they just can't do that.

Right. She's so great. She's too great even. And this episode is an example why. I mean, whether or not it makes a great episode, almost doesn't matter to me. It's such a great and an avisator performance that, like yeah, I'm here for it.

Great episode, just because of that, for no other reason. I think it's also a great Brian Fuller performance for a lot of the same reasons. Like it does feel like a young writer who maybe isn't like in full control of his talents yet. But it comes out swinging. It's like operatic in scope and really feels intense and great.

And it's an episode that forecasts big things for this series. If you're a writer that wants to make the leap and you wanna give the episode, you've written the best chance to get made and to be seen as quality, giving an avisator that monologue in the middle is giving yourself the best chance that you can get. Like that's very smart.

So yeah, I agree. Do you wanna see if we have any priority one messages at them? Let's see if they are as well written as a Brian Fuller script. Priority one message from Starfleet coming in on Secured Channel. Need a supplement on that. supplement on that? supplement.

supplement. Yeah, it's extra. The interest alone could be enough to buy this ship! Then our first priority one message is from Lauren. It is for Gina. Hmm, the message goes like this. Happy 20th anniversary, Gina. Whoa! To others, you may be just another Kevin Uxbridge creation. But to me, you are my lovely wife-bought of 20 years.

Who knew that Android could create two kids too? I love you for sticking with me and for loving Trek as much as I do. Wow! Yeah. That's lovely. Congratulations, Lauren and Gina. Yeah. Good job, Lauren.

Yeah. And getting Gina, lock and Gina up. Yeah. Good job, Lauren. Yeah. And getting Gina, lock and Gina up. Yeah. Long term. Sounds like a very lucky get. Yeah. Well, Adam, we have another P1 here.

And it is from I, and that's capital I, and it is for I. That's lowercase I. Mm-hmm. The message is one. And That's lowercase i. Mm-hmm. The message is 1. And that's just the number 1. Mm-hmm. Very skinny message.

Yeah, it's just kind of a vertical line when I look at it in the... In the email. I mean, that leaves the shortest possible message being straight line up and down, right? Yeah, I guess one has... has... has... has danglies. Right. One has serifs in a way that... Well, this... not in my email viewer, but... but oh, I guess at the top it has a little... Yeah.

I don't know what you call that. I don't know what... what Jonathan Heffler would refer to that little nub guess at the top it has a little yeah, I don't know what you call that I don't know with what Jonathan Heffler would refer to that little nub in at the top of the one is I think Jonathan Heffler would call it the hug Just like just like we would yeah the one-dong Yeah, wow going for the record Good to see yeah a lot of interesting approaches it to the most useless Approach to burning $100 But if you'd like to make an entry in that challenge You got a maximum fun tattoo org slash jumbo tron

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Love it. What about you, Ben? So same scene, the former cellmates of Major Kira, they go in for a hug with what they're and I think that they can transmit code right behind her head by whispering to each other in a group hug, which is, you know, we know that Major Kira does not let a lot of shit pass under her nose like that. So, I mean, they're just, they're just talking about getting her that box of bay leaves or whatever, but, but ridiculous that she wouldn't notice that.

So for that reason, they are my drunk Shemode. Lucky Kira doesn't kick their asses in that scene. Indeed. She has the capacity for it. Yeah, we don't talk about the fact that she got like phasered as a pregnant lady in this episode. Yeah, there's been a lot of uteri and trauma in this episode. There was her outside of O'Brien's quarters, like she crumples into a heap there and

bishir talks about there being some damage to the uterus there. And then she's also shot later. Yeah. I mean, we're told that the O'Brien baby's okay, but wow, kinda going through a lot. Like she's probably gonna be okay for a cure to have a glass of wine every once in a while. Hahaha.

Yeah. This baby's been through worse. True indeed. Are we going to go through worse while watching the next episode, Ben? Want to tell us? That's a great question, Adam. The next episode is season 5, episode 12, the Bigoton. The Begoton?

Hmm. B-E-G-O-T-T-O-N. Bigoton? The Begeton. Is that really the title of the episode? It seems fucked up. It's misspelled on Amazon Prime. It's on IMDB, it's spelled the Bigotten with an E.

Yeah, that's how it's supposed to be spelled. What the fuck? I mean, we've made fun of the episode capsules that Netflix writes, but misspelling the title of an episode is bananas. Anyways, the description is, while Kira gives birth, Odo raises an infant changeling. This is gonna be a fun episode, right? Like a lighthearted episode.

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We've been in the ball, so I can't tell me what to do. After that tub episode, it's all gravy. Yeah, yeah, I feel like we deserve three normals in a row. Yeah. or more. We need. But yeah, we could, there's still Cocoa No-No ahead. There's a lot that could happen. One thing we don't deserve is all the support we get from viewers who go to MaximumFund.org

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Odo's a parent. So there's like five parents and two babies between them. That's what's going on here. Wow. It's very confusing. Make it sound, make it sound. Make it sound. Make it sound. Make it sound. Y'all are the God of God, God of God. They're gonna go out on baby dates. They're gonna watch each other's kids. Well, they go out for dinner.

Yeah. You know they gotta do that. Fuck. Yeah. This is some shit. The O'Brien's are gonna have to, like, invite Kiko's mom over, like, for grandparent time. Definitely.

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