The Greatest Generation - Palpatineasaurus (VOY S3E23)

Episode Date: May 2, 2022

When a local paleontologist pitches his Distant Origin Theory, the implications w/r/t common ancestry are too hot-blooded for the Voth's Ministry of Elders to handle. But even with Chakotay serving as both lawyer and living proof, Gegen still has to renounce science and take up metallurgy. Is umbrella comedy insurance available through the company policy? Have the indignities visited upon Skulk Hogan finally come to an end? Is there a rotting apple still cloaked in Voyager’s science lab? It’s the episode that has DINO DNA!It’s the MaxFunDrive, and we’d really appreciate if you’d click this link andSupport the production of The Greatest Generation. Friends of DeSoto for Democracy.Friends of DeSoto for Justice.Follow The Game of Buttholes: The Will of the Caretaker!Music by Adam Ragusea & Dark MateriaFollow The Greatest Generation on Twitter, and discuss the show using the hashtag #GreatestGen!The Greatest Generation is now regularly streaming on Twitch.Facebook group | Subreddit | Discord | WikiSign up for our mailing list!

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Bringing weather U.S.S. Forten, Dirk. Do it, Captain. Welcome to the greatest generation at the Star Trek Podcast by a couple of guys, just a little bit embarrassed to have a Star Trek Podcast. I'm Adam Pranika. I'm Ben Harrison. It felt weird to say welcome in your home,

in your office, but that's what I've done. Yeah. Who do you think you are? I mean, I'm a guy sitting on your couch drinking your tequila. This is a tequila that you gave me so I know I have bad feelings about it because I feel like you don't like it You and so there's like a there's this compounding feeling of like oh man He's enjoying my gift, but is he enjoying it enough? And that's like my own weird psychopathy. I think the thing that's weirdest about it is I've never said anything to you that would indicate that I don't like the tequila. I do like the tequila on a daily basis.

I just make up umberages that people have and experience them. I experience them fully without anyone else knowing. Yeah. Yeah. I've definitely been in that headspace before. Yeah. I got a bust out of it, man. My mentors are all over the place.

Feeling better now, though. Oh, man. I'm glad to be sitting here looking at each other during. Indeed. Ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha It's like magic. It's amazing shit getting done by people who know what they're doing and then there's us the first time in the history of the X Bridge Samoa Enterprise Having someone competent as part of the team. It's yeah, it's great to have one possible valence to this thing. Yeah, unworryed about Good times. Adam, my father is doing good, but he is in the hospital at the moment.

I've heard. And one of my favorite people is your father. He's great. He's great. And Apple does not fall far from the tree in one respect. And that is that at least a couple of times that I know about since he went in for the surgery that he's in there for he had a bad bit moment You're always doing bits, bits, bits. You're always doing bits, bits, bits. I was doing bits.

Bad bit moment. Bad bit moment. So, I mean, we have a pretty longstanding rule about no bits on tips. No bits on tips. Which, to define it, means not to hold hostage a retail or restaurant worker or equivalent employee with your stupid bit because they got to be there. They have to be there. They're being paid to be there.

And, you know, nurse surgeon in many ways could fall under that umbrella. Feels very, very similar. Like in the same ballpark at least. So the first bit he did that did not seem to go over. He's okay, right? Like we should probably set that up. Yeah, yeah, he's recovering. Okay, good. The surgery went very well.

So neck surgery. So it's a kind of thing where he's got to be in the hospital for a few days afterwards. Like the neck of his penis, like actual neck. Yeah, they did some work on the part that you start your measurement at. Oh, right. He had to get up at like 5 a.m. to go to the hospital for this thing. And the surgeon was an hour late. And so he was in prep waiting for a long time. And the surgery fully shaved. Surgeon finally comes in.

This is the VA hospital. My head was in Vietnam, so he's at a VA hospital. And he does a bit on the surgeon being late. Here's the bit. His guy gets discharged for the military, gets a job, starts showing up late to the job every day. And the boss is like, hey man, what gives? Like, you were in the military.

And I thought you'd have like a lot more discipline. What did people say to you in the military when you showed up late? And he says, well, they'd say, pin, hoot, general on the floor. All I do is, yeah, yeah, yeah. No matter what. He drags the man who's about to cut his neck open

or show up late. Then he goes under and then when he, my mom met him in his recovery room, she's like, hey, so how are you feeling? And he's like, I don't know why my neck is so sore. They were supposed to be doing surgery on my knee. All I do is dip, dip, dip, dip. Wow. That's awesome. And what was the react? My mom did not understand. She thought she went into paroxysms freaking out that he didn't know what his surgery was about. Oh wow. Yikes. So the collateral, the collateral damage from the bad bit

was not doctor related. It was, it was wife related. Bits on wives is covered. It's, that's okay. Yeah. That's covered in your joke insurance. Oh, yeah. But I do not have a bit on wife policy.

Fam, we gotta get you one of those. We'll make sure the company renegotiates that next time we buy insurance. I definitely need umbrella comedy insurance. I was delighted when I heard these two jokes, but they were for me, not for any of the people that he did them on. So often that's how it goes, right? Yeah. Is he the type that like plays the long game with a bit? Like, I'm gonna do this knowing it's not gonna be appreciated. Like oftentimes when you and I do bits, I'm thinking about it for later.

Like this is gonna be good for the show. I'm willing to die on this bit hill. Yeah. Now, if it means feasting at the banquet later on, does your dad think that way? Oh yeah, I mean, my dad loves to tell you about a bon mo he had 20 minutes ago when you weren't there. Yeah.

I have a very vivid memory for some reason of I played ice hockey when I was a kid and he told me that we were at like the rink for a game and the coach of the opposing team was the only other gentleman in the men's room when my dad went in there. He stepped up to the urinal and the guy broke wind. My dad said, how do?

He just thought this was great, but the coach of the other team did not find it amused. But he told me about it later. Just the idea that that story worthy. I would have seen like to me it is so funny yeah that's real chip off the old block right Mm-hmm, right there. Yeah, so my dad's okay, hoping as a speedy recovery. Yeah. And me too. Hey, Adam, speaking of bones and seeing human bones,

yes. There's a lot of that in the episode we came to talk about today. There sure is. Quality pivot right there. Surgically deployed. This is like max fund drive level pivot. I mean, we're recording very far ahead.

So I have no idea when this episode lines up. Hopefully our level of support at this point in the drive keeps us on the network. Otherwise, we're doing this for nothing. God dammit. I've taken Jesse's threats to heart. Yeah, yeah. Jesse can be a real son of a bitch behind the scenes. Yeah. Do you want to get into today's episode, Adam? Oh yeah, it's what we're here to do Ben. It's Star Trek Voyager season three episode 23, Distan Origin. Rebirth course.

Unless you've got something a little bigger in your torpedo toots, I'm not turning around. We have all the ingredients for a great cold open here. We got an exploding volcano. We got a cave. An exploding volcano that we have seen before. Yeah, this place looked familiar and there's a reason why because by the time we go inside this cave We see some alien people rooting around in the sand and this guy and his archeology partner are finding some bones Dem bones

And these bones are the bones of a Voyager crew member that died on the crow Mag Planet. Yeah. RSVP. Is this um, what, what, what, what, what, what, what, what, what, what, what, what, what, what, what, what, what, what, what, what, what, what, what, what, what, what, what, what, what, what, what, what, what, what, what, what, what, what, what, what, what, what, what, what, what, what, what, what, what, what, what, what, what, what, what, what, what, what, what, what, what, what, what, what, what, what, what, what, what, what, what, what, what, what, what, what, what, what, what, what, what, what, what, what, what, what, what, what, what, what, what, what, what, what, what, what, what, what, what, what, what, what, what, what, what, what, what, what, what, what, what, what, what, what, what, what, what, what, what, what, what, what, what, what, what, what, what, what, what, what, what, what, what, what, what, what, what, what, what, what, what, what, what, what, what, what, what, what, what, what, what, what, what, what, what, what, what, what, what, what, what, what, what, what, what, what, what, what, what, what, what, what, what, what, what, what, what, what, what, what, what, what, what, what, what, what, what, what, what, what, what, what, what, what, what, what, what, what, what, what, what, what, what, what, what, what, what, what did we call Hogan? Skullhogan, Skullhogan! It could be Skullhogan's bones! We got it! Nice! We finally got there! This is why the greatest gen wikia is so important. We can't remember this crap. Two host brains make one normal brain. That's for sure. These guys are fucking psyched to find these bones.

Yes! Let's gather the fine and bring it back to the ship. I'm excited for what happens when they tell the Voth people. Yeah, I wonder who they are. After the theme we find out a little more, because Gagan and Veer have put the bones together in a kind of about to be in a museum display. Yeah. Kind of configuration. Yeah, indeed they have. And they're starting to kind of speculate about what type of person would be walking around with bones like this inside them. Yeah.

Roon of entry sense of smell. Non-sorian. That's a bit of a scandal. Yeah. Yikes. I wonder how their brandy is. Probably shitty because everyone knows the Sari and Brandy's great. I thought it was Hooch.

I mean, sometimes Hooch is what you want. Yeah, we're going to the, after we record this, we're going to the 10 Forward Pop-Up experience here in Los Angeles. So maybe we'll find out what Sari and Brandy taste like tonight. Take it to the dome. That's it. I'm going to do. I'm guessing that's a Marin on an upcoming greatest discovery, right? That's a good idea. Or is it a Marin on a past greatest discovery

as of the release of this episode? Because we're so far ahead on greatest generally. That makes more sense. You're gonna have to go find it, Fair listener. It's somewhere. We can't do the work for you. We cannot. It looks like Skullcogon really had his mind blown before dying because there is a great

big hole in this thing when we get a good look at it. I mean, you can reach right in there. That's a big hole. Brain is also significantly smaller than that of the Surians here. Yeah, they get pretty uppity about this observation. Yeah. Also, the greater number of fingers, have some disparaging comments about that. We were supposed to do it two extra fingers.

I mean, the only thing I could think of is play really sick piano, but like, who needs it? How are you supposed to pleasure someone digitally with those spindly things? And they're not even ribbed. Because when we see these giant reptile fingers, holy moly, they're like three giant carrots. Yeah.

So they are trying to figure out what a human was doing all the way out here because they have some theories about what this might mean for the origin of their own species. And so they're like, ah, we got to go tell the other scientists. We need to get a fleet together because this is probably the most important discovery. We've ever found. And we got to comb the galaxy for the ships that this guy came from. There's some subtly, really important work being done here. And that work looks like

two people loving what they do, doing what they love, excited to share that with other people. And slowly putting their balls into the machine. Right? Like you need this part to feel the great sadness that is to come. Totally. Yeah. And we also get some timeline here. This is, in fact, the Chrome Agnan point that this guy died over a year ago. So they're like, well, if this people is warp capable, which they must be, they could be pretty far away. Yeah. Viewers like cool, we can maybe like get a scout ship out to help us sift through the sand.

Maybe we can find more evidence. And Gagan's like, you fool. This isn't a field trip, Vir. We need to mount a sector wide expedition. We need a fleet of ships. We basically need our entire society to pivot into this. We need a moonshot. We need a... A herculean effort to find this ship. The first duty of every story in my circle is to scientific truth. Right. I mean, not only is Gagan a scientist, he also kind of as a poet's heart

because when he records his log a little later, he's like, God damn, Gagan, you're really doing exactly what you need to be doing. A lot of flourishes in that. Yeah. You really found your happy place. Sure hope nothing bad happens to Gagan. Do what you love and you'll never work a day in your life until yeah

You eat the minister or whatever. Yeah, I mean something is made of the urgency. Yeah of the matter this body has only been cold for a year and To these Sarians like that would ordinarily be a good thing. You want a cold body. Right, nice and cold. Yeah. So they head to what they call the cityship, which looks like a dino from the outside. Yeah, you have a flight of dinosaur kit.

And they meet with a real palpatina sorus. This leader, a lady in a very gloomy, empire strikes back looking throne room, fielding the pitch that Gagan is making about the distant origin theory. And he finally has proof. He's laid all these bones out on the table. A pile of bones impressive. He's talking about the demonstrable proof that their species came from very far away in the galaxy and traveled millions of years to get to where they are now. Gagan is like, sharks? All our lives we've been told that the Voth doctrine is true, that the Voth were the first evolved species in the galaxy and are superior to all other species as a result. For $500,000, and 10% of the distant origin theory, we can reproduce and sell these bones and retail stores around the boss system and beyond.

I was so proud of Gagan. I like to pitch you on a licensing deal. That's a mistake. You will never be disappointed if you stay small. The camera's on Gagan for so long. I'd also like to kill someone by hitting them with my boat and then just getting away with it because I'm a rich guy.

And also blaming it on my wife, I think. Hmm. I'm not talking about anybody specific to be clear. This is a great presentation. Gagan does good. Well done, Professor. Hardly. But the sharks are very skeptical about some of his numbers. Right. And it's also, I mean, not information that Palpatina Soros is super keen on because it sort of undercuts some of the things that she believes to philosophically underpin her political power and the world view of her species. Right. Have you considered the wider implications of your theory?

Yeah, I mean, it would be one thing if it only had to do with the belief system of her species, but it has a direct causal relationship with her sitting, where she's sitting. Yeah. Also, they really hate hot-blooded species in this culture. So when Gagan drops the endotherm bomb It really goes over like a lead balloon. Yeah when he drops the N word That's EN word for the for the kids at home right for the transcription that's That's the EN word. You can't say that!

Pretty casual with that. Yeah, she is not keen on doing what he is asking her to do, retask their entire society toward finding this ship, but she says she'll consider it. And that is where they leave things in this meeting. I also just wanted to call out like the camera placements in this meeting. I also just wanted to call out like the camera placements in this meeting.

The shot compositions are super creepy and a lot of Dutch angles, very original Tim Burton Batman. You have a dance of the devil in the pale moon line. I thought the entire episode was shot very uniquely in that way. For a like expressionistic, in a way that you don't often see

in Star Trek Voyager specifically.istic. Yeah. And a way that you don't often see in Star Trek Voyager specifically. Yeah, I liked it a lot. Yeah. Did you happen to catch who the director was? It was the director named after Picard's fish. What's he named? David Livingston. Oh yeah. David Livingston. Wow. Good job, David Livingston. Weird app. Yeah. So not a lot of hope coming out of this meeting. No, I failed to anticipate the level of ignorance I would be facing. And when things aren't going great at work, what you want is your family there to support you when your shift is over. And unfortunately, Gagan's daughter, Friola, is not there with with a bunch of support for her father. Yeah, she's like

ex-nail on the instant day origin A. Yeah. I don't think they were very receptive. Hey, dad, you're never home and also I don't believe in your work. Also, I'm fucking your partner. Gagan is Dr. Fauci coming home to find that his family have gone full anti-facts. It's like, what? What gets? I'm disappointed in you.

I thought we'd see more of Friola this episode, but she does not have a lot to do. Yeah. I thought for sure, Friola would be used as a punishment. That's a lot of love to get into for one scene. Yeah. Anyhow, Gagan goes back to his office and his assistant who I know he has a name. I put him in my note as assistant to Soros.

Veer. Yeah, but assistant to Soros is fun. It is. It's more fun than veer. He's like, hey, so all of your computers have been seized and they're coming for you next. You're going to be arrested for heresy against doctrine. And Gagin is like, what? I am a doctor. I can't commit heresy against doctrine. Mm-hmm. Mm-hmm. Yeah. It's good. It's good. It's like what my dad did to that surgeon. I know. He committed heresy against doctrine. Does that mean they just dumped Skull Cogan's bones into a garbage

shoot? I mean those like those slithery dinos that they were fighting were like grabbing and eating people. So maybe he hadn't been pooped out by the time Voyager left that planet. No, but I mean the like what they got. Oh, you mean the oh yeah, shoot. Yeah, I'm guessing they either you know put them in like a crate in a huge room like all of their arcs of covenants, etc. Yeah. Or they or they just blew out an airlock. The indignity is visited upon Skull Cogan. Maybe finally have come to an end in one purely awful moment. Oh, poor guy. Yeah. So Gagan and his assistant to side, we got to get the fuck out of here. The assistant is given an opportunity to get out at this moment and gagan and As kind of encouraging him to do so. He's like this is me

hoisting myself on my own petard and you don't need to get hoisted on it also But a veer's like if I want to keep hoisting myself onto your daughter I want to have to remain involved in the situation Regardless of how dangerous it is. Yeah, so off they go. And their first step is that space station where all the drug dealing was going down on the edge of the Necrotic Spans. First thing, they're offered a bunch of really fun sounding party drugs.

Drugs can make you feel good. Next thing they're sort of discouraged from going any further because hard to figure out how to get through the necrotic spans. Right, right. They go and visit Wixibon in prison. It's worse than prison. It's a death sentence. Dragging his tin cuff against the bars.

Yeah. Finally, they end up finding more information about the Voyager crew. And this, the unintentional comedy of this scene was profound to me because they've had for a while this little sketch of what Skull Cogan might have looked like and it's wrong. It's wrong and bad. It's really projecting their story and looks onto what they imagine a human might look like. It looks like a fabric store envelope

with like a pencil drawn picture of like, what the thing you're supposed to sew together will look like. Right. And then when they get updated intel from one of the aliens that's traded with the Voyager crew, he helps them realize that humans look like Jacked Mr. Bean. Yeah, and that's marvelous.

Yeah, and they all look this way. Like if Mr. Bean had Batman armor. I mean, and it's not only a more accurate description of what the crew looks like. They also pick up a bunch of extra trinkets, like a communicator and a tricorder and warp plasma from their engines. Glad they didn't throw that out. I thought that they got warp plasma from the power plant on the space station in that episode. Maybe they also had warp plasma from their engines too good to throw away. Obviously, they head out and they're on their journey.

And this is when they have their eaten some bugs and talking about Gagan's daughter conversation. Beer is paranoid about Gagan's message being intercepted. And Gagan is just straight out hungry to be a hard ass about Beer's crush on Friola. Yeah. But he's also just hungry for some tasty, tasty bugs. He kind of does a little bit here on Beer like, hey, man, it's all right. I'm not gonna be a hard ass. I'm gonna be a cool father-in-law.

It's stupid and lame to be protective of a daughter like that. You don't do that. It's a weird patriarchal energy that you're sort of assuming I'm gonna have. I'm not. Yeah, I'm not like that. Their conversation gets interrupted by the computer, which is beeping away, telling them

that they've picked up Voyager. And so, like, they're inside of a transwarp, conduit, it looks like, and they just casually cloak and drop out of it. These voth are powerful as hell. Yeah, every time they talk about the humans, they're talking about, oh, they have very primitive warp technology,

their sensors won't be able to detect us and stuff. Some of that is hubris, but a lot of it is actually true. They are able to travel way faster than the Voyager. It would be great if that were considered as a bargaining tool at any point this episode. It would have been nice. So they start kind of sneaking around the Voyager and they've got some personal cloaking devices that are very jordy and row. They've just phased themselves slightly out of the same reality so they can walk around undetected and get an eye on the humans and what they're like. I didn't expect the smell. First pair that they follow is Tom and BLT who are working together on some war-penging stuff,

but also kind of putting horny on main. So there's some very like David Attenborough narration from Gagan and Assistant Asaurus about what they're observing down at the watering hole. Note how the female through her feigned antagonism encourages the male in his attempt to make. This is like a fun reversal of the whole Star Trek duck blind vibe. Mm-hmm. You know, like, Starfleet always does this to other aliens. Why is it not okay for other aliens to do that to them?

Yeah, yeah. I mean, if Starfleet had been down there till I see if the men talkens were a village of death in the way that many people would be curious to find out if the voyage area is in fact a ship of death. Right. That would be perfectly analogous. It's fun to hear BLT and Paris's relationship

described by strangers in an anthropological sense. It's big fun. Yeah. Well, they are mammals after all. Tom Paris winning a bet means they're going to go to Klingon battle drills together in the holodeck as a date. I'll see you tonight. Yeah, that sounds like foreplay to me.

Yeah, kidding. I mean, especially for BLT, right? Bring your own bat left. I love how casually, Gagan downloads the ship's entire database like in a second and a half. It's really quick. Yeah.

It's a unique sister. I know of this. Another really striking camera angle in this episode is when we cut up to the bridge, the camera is up high shooting down into it. And this is the captain just kind of going about her business, captaining everybody, and then we kind of swing over to find Gigan and assistant to Saurus talking about, oh, like this must be a matriarchal society. Look, that female is leading them.

Really love a three-axis camera move. Yeah. It's great. I love the like bounces of the camera when it's up high on the crane. Yeah, and it's interesting because it must mean that a section of the ceiling of the bridge is removable. I wonder if they had it like built in a warehouse with one of those like cranes that can go along the entire length of the warehouse

and just like lift stuff out. What they need to. I mean, that would be great. Yeah. But it's probably much more difficult. Yeah. No, I mean, like you never see this shot or I would assume that it was easy. Kim picks up some strange energies.

This is strange. M-m-m-m emanating from the bridge. Yeah. They're talking a lot of shit about how they're undetectable, but they did not count on Harry Kim. I like jumping back and forth between them being cloaked and hearing some of the conversation, but not all of it. Yeah, yeah. Very interesting.

Like, I mean, I wonder if that was in the scripture, if that was in how David Livingston decided to mount the production, because it's so nicely executed. That's a great observation because this could be something that you find during the edit as a more effective way to expedite what's happening. I bet you could cut it together both ways, where it's just from and to and from and to, but we're like tumbling through the dialogue and cutting off bits of one conversation in favor of another. Yeah. The last shot in this scene before the two invaders

beam themselves down to Nielix's restaurant is a shot with Harry Kim in the extreme foreground and like shooting all the way down the length of the bridge, the back of the bridge. And like when they realize that they've gone to another floor, like Janeway like tosses a phaser to Chico Te and Chico Te runs to the elevator with two of us. Like, yeah.

There's so much dynamism in this episode, so much, so much cool stuff that they do with the camera. Like angles that you never see. Yeah. This is a really special episode for that. Yeah. Right. Knock them, get them.

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These clouds are really freaking me out. I hate having to stand in line and boy, what do I? These giraffes do not smell good. No, they do not, and they've such short neck. But I'm here and we need to get on this. We've got to get on the art. It is about terrain, about a spout to destroy humanity. Hey, oh, sorry, sorry, sorry.

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so seem like something for us to check out. We would love to be on the boats. We came two by two. What do you think? Ono Ross and Carrie, available on MaximumFun.org. Nielix is not exactly the security officer he's been speculated to have the potential to be. Intruders, I don't see any intruders. I like how the suggestion is that Vir and gagan need to retreat into an area that's untrafxed or unpopular.

And they don't know it, but that's what neelix is. Totally. Yeah. They're like this sea on the door must mean that this is a less desirable eatery. We should go to a place that smells like reptiles. We'll be more comfortable? Yeah, so on their way down Chico Tei and the gang get word from the bridge that there's a setting that they can do with their dustbusters to cut through the

cloak and when they get down there they reveal Gagan and and Veer and Veer kind of shits himself and shoots a Vaharai dart that hits Chikote. And Gagan grabs Chikote and beams out before Tuvak and stun him. And Veer wakes up from being stunned on the floor with just a million dustbusters pointing at his nose. But later, welcome aboard. I'm Captain Janeway. That's a fun POV. Yeah. That's a good gift. Yeah. We're going to get that gift going. All right. Bill Tilly, if you're listening, get that gift going. In Six Bay Viewer is on a biobad and it looks like he'll recover just fine.

Yeah, he seems okay. He seems okay until he choose on something that seems like a cyanide tooth. Yeah. But instead it's a hibernation tooth. Yeah, it's like he didn't bear in heart cone in Janeway when she was leaning over him. Yikes, yeah. That would have been bad. Right. So yeah, I mean, like a goat, you know,

he like basically faints under the stress. And so like Janeway's like, all right, Doc, like, you know, keep doing your scans see if you can get this guy awake eventually. There's coffee in his technology. And so like Janeway is like, all right, Doc, like, you know, keep doing your scan, see if you can get this guy awake eventually. There's coffee in his technology. I want to know what we're up against. Interesting that this episode is paced so quickly that you've sort of ignored the idea that

Janeway's primary concern is what this guy's deal is instead of where the hell Chicote went. Right. Like the order of scenes here is not what I would have anticipated given what had happened. Yeah. I mean, because after this is when we go see where Chicoete went. Yeah.

And Chicoete wakes up on a bed that looks like the kind of bed you wake up on when you get schismed. Right. What do you want from me? And he is in the presence of Gagan, but he's behind a force field, so he's not gonna be able to go anywhere. Do you always hyper on the local wildlife?

And Gagan is very standoffish at first. Very like, don't be alarmed, but also like don't try anything, Bob. I won't bite. Real citizens arrest vibes happening. And Jakote is a fairly shrewd negotiator. He's like, look, I'd love nothing more than to talk about this conversation further,

but you can have to lower this force field so we can talk like a couple of gentlemen. Yeah, he says for what it's worth, I'm a scientist too. And by that, I mean, like, I'm a scientist's second and a terrorist first, like that's the order. And Gagan's like, cool, I'm a scientist second and a terrorist first. Like, that's the order. And Gagan's like, cool, I don't know what that first word means. So I'll go ahead and rub this shield. And he's like, I, I have your entire database here.

This planet, this is where you come from. Yeah. Yeah. And they start talking about it. Are there other Gagons walking around there? Yeah. Seems like they're on to something. Yeah. Seems like the doc is on to something too, because back in six Bay,

he tells Janeway that there are 47 genetic markers identical to those found in human DNA. That's more than coincidence. Thought so too. They're distant cousins. Yeah. They've got Dino DNA. And yeah, this is a crazy coincidence, but it's not just coincidental to humans. They also share markers with tons and tons of other Earth species. Janeways like, Dr. would you mind making your discovery a little more entertaining? Transfer yourself to Holodec too.

I think it's time we took a stroll through primeval history. I wonder if you need this scene in a modern Star Trek episode. I mean, this to me called back the scene in TNG where they're like, it sounds like clicking, and there's a table, and then there's a thing that looks like scissors. Yeah, a lot of schizzy callbacks in this episode. Yeah.

What they do is they show like the earliest common ancestor that humans and Vath have, which is a quadrupedal dinosaur looking beast. It's a dinosaur that diverged into the mammalians and the dinosaurs and also evolved into... What was that? Parasarolifice, parasarophilus. Ankylisaur. Yeah, I mean, the first one is like a big turtle. Yeah. And then the second one is up on its hind legs.

Yeah. Neusources. And you're like, yeah, like I could see this turning, like getting eventually toward a higher form of evolution, like a human, I mean, it's bipedal. It's got the grabby arms. I mean, definitely the dinosaur in the toy box that no one wanted to play with,

like the least cool looking dinosaur in the toy box for sure. So they have the computer do a genetic development, projection algorithm. They put it on the derpy setting so that they can see what a humanoid version of this. It's definitely from the species, chooseer, screen from an open world video game. Like, here's what you got to choose, you got to choose human being, cat person, and then

this weird lizard guy. I was one of the lizard guys in Skyrim. Yeah. When I did that game. Yeah. This is that. Yeah. This is that. But we're the, I wonder how they did these are,

do you think these are, they're not 3D, right? The camera doesn't move, so you never get like more than one angle on it. Yeah. And you don't get the like breathing movement of the player selection screen either. Yeah. Yeah. The little the tight loop.

Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. I'm standing there. Yeah. That would have been fun. I don't think they had the technology for tight loop back then. No.

This was pre tight loop. Yeah. So the same conversation is kind of going down on gig and shit between him and Chico today, where they're talking about like, how could this have happened? Like if we both come from the same planet, like why did we never know this before?

And they start speculating like maybe the Saurians arose on a continent that was taken out and all of the evidence of their existence was lost in some kind of chalice that predates the arrival and all of the evidence of their existence was lost in some cataclysm that predates the arrival of man on the evolutionary stage. And if so, like the evidence would be really hard to find, but some of them got off world and perhaps started your society.

What did you think had happened based on the information that you knew up until this point. Because I think what it does is it kind of breaks the mind. We learn later, like this happened over 100 million years. And in my dumb mind, I was like, okay, so like the the dinosaur killing asteroid hits the planet. But then like these dinos are thrown up into the air and some of them like attached to the pieces of the asteroid and then like somehow an atmosphere forms around this and this asteroid flag flies out of the solar system. And ended up here in the Delta Quadrant.

And I felt so fucking stupid later when they're like, yeah, so over the course of tens of millions of years, this species came up with technology sufficient for warp travel and I'm like, oh. Oh. Okay. I mean, I was, yeah, I was picturing like Atlantis. I mean, it's pretty far fetched because if you... My mind couldn't grasp the timeline.

Yeah. So instantaneously, these guys were moved off of the planet. That's very natural though. Like millions of years is an impossible timeline to wrap your mind around. And I don't know. I mean, a novel I read, there was a character in it named Lovias, and it was like, if when life started, the first cell divided,

and then one of them kept dividing, but the other just got bigger. And so there's this single cell life form that's enormous under the sea that is as old as life on Earth and is hyper-intelligent and evil. Oh, what? I like this idea quite a bit. I'll lend you the book.

Let's call it. It's called the Illuminatus trilogy. It's a really weird book. Sounds like it. So yeah, they're they're talking about how this could happen, how evidence of the Saurians could have been wiped out on Earth and neither of their species ever suspect what had happened. It's also just like a hard conversation for Gig and to have because he's like, well, you're kind of my first mammal. So I'm kind of overcoming a lot of a pretty deeply and great prejudices myself here. Next time you might try a simple hello first. It's an exciting time for him.

I mean, this is why you get into the sciences. Right. For this kind of mind blower. This is this is great. This is why you get into starfleet, man. Yeah. Chico tastes like, well, mammals are great, man. Come back to my ship. I'll introduce you to a bunch of them.

That smell is completely normal. It's just what we smell like. And Gaggen's like, sorry, dude, can't do it. We're headed back to my science buddies. I got to show you to them so that they will finally see proof positive. I have not been whistle and dixie. I love how gently the idea of science hostage is proposed.

Mm-hmm. And how gently it's accepted by Chico Te. I can't let you go now. Sounds great. Yeah, I'll be your science hostage daddy. Yeah. It makes sense to all parties. Yeah. Of course, it's long day. What?

You're just going to need to be careful, because I'm going to see this once. Oh! Back on Voyager, Tom Perez and TuVoc are testing the personal cloaking device. I thought this was an interesting scene, because it doesn't quite tie into any of the rest of the story. Yeah.

Is the implication that they get this at the end, that they keep the personal cloaking device? That's a great question. I think it's funny to consider that not long after this, the power goes out on the ship. Yeah. And that there might be a cloaked apple in that room that is never found.

And as people walk into the room over the next few days, they're like, this smell like an apple is like decaying in here. It smells like rotting fruit in here, but look, we looked all over the place. And like I could swear there are nets everywhere, but I cannot see them. Like I could just tell that there's fucking bugs in this room. It feels like they're flying around your face, right? We've got to return to this story. There's a hairy Kim floating through space.

There's a clop- A fucking invisible apple on Voyager. These are important revelations. Yeah, I mean, this experiment is interrupted by a giant vat ship, a ship so immense that we don't really comprehend its size until the Voyager is taken inside it. And you could fit, this is like Jupiter compared to Earth.

Yeah. Like, it is so huge. You could fit a lot of starfleet. You could fit a wolf three five nine of starships inside of the city. Yeah, absolutely. Good. This thing is awesome.

They're beamed into the belly of the beast and they're no match for the Vloff technology. Like the computer is down, weapons are down, everything is down. I love how instantaneous action happens after this. Like as soon as the realization is that they're inside and all their power is out, Janeway is like, okay, go to the mattresses.

And they're distributing dust busters and they're fanning out and it's clear that they're being boarded. Yeah, I wanted somebody to grab the personal cloaking device and sneak around. They lost it. Yeah, it's on that apple. They lost track.

Here's the thing, like you do an experiment with a cloaked apple. If you aren't looking at the cloaked apple and you look away for some reason, that baby's gone. No one's finding it again. That's why you need to do that experiment with a partner, right? And one of you keeps eyes on the apple. So Tom Paris and Tuvaq are only kind of starship mine going around the ship with their dustbusters and Tuvaq gets got with one of these Vaharai darts that these guys shoot. I love a go on without me seeing. Yeah. Always have. Yeah.

So now it's just Tom Paris, one man alone, rambling around the ship. Yeah. Always have. Yeah. So now it's just Tom Paris, one man alone, rambling around the ship, yeah. Crown through Jeffery's tubes and stuff. And the bad news is the phasers are included in the list of systems that have been knocked out. It feels so much worse to think you're defending yourself and realize that you're not, then to not have any defenses at all. Yeah. I thought for sure after the BIOB joke at the beginning of this episode, that Tom Parris would eventually have a mechleth or something.

I would love that. That would be great. Yeah. If there were like, yeah, we could establish diplomatic relationships with you, but Tom Parris killed too many of our people. Cut to Parris rummaging around in his nightstand, like, cling on, lube, and...

Paraphanelia. He pulls out the rubber mechleth. This should do the trick. Wobble, wobble, wobble, wobble. After that, there's no diplomacy. What you want to do is cloak the contents of your nightstand. This is why Paris was so interested in that technology. Unfortunately, Tom, it does not cloak anything larger than a group of small items.

I don't know how useful this would be to anyone in pairs is like I actually have a use case for this Am I making any sense here? There's a certain drawer In my nightstand I don't want people to know is there So they're all they're all taken hostage and speaking of hostages we check back in with Chico Tay who is talking to Gagan and he's like Wow, well it seems like my ship has been Taken over over there. So in many ways you going back to defend yourself at the city ship I mean, we're sort of both defendants in this right to exist trial. Yeah Gagan is very honorable here. He's like I'm going to let everybody on your ship get killed just because my people

are like weirdly conservative despite being super advanced technologically. A feeling that is visited again later on. Like this isn't the only instance of that feeling from him. Yeah. Which is why it's not a surprise later on. There's a pretty intense scene between Janeway and one of the people that's come over to take over the ship and she knows a lot more about what's going on than he does. Yeah.

In an interesting way, like the captive being more studied up on the scandal that is brewing in his society than the captor. Let me show you a picture of some of the cooler dinosaurs. You're related to none of these. For instance, check this out. Allosaurus. So cool. So deadly.

Delafa Soresos spits venom as a cool Caval that appears around its neck when it's threatened Here's one that I can barely pronounce Enkylosaur For a long time I said it differently, but then I learned it's true pronunciation Enkylosaur you are also not related It's true pronunciation. Ankylis or... You are also not related.

Archaeopteryx. Technically not even a dinosaur, and also not related to you. My point exactly. Objection noted will do this without you. Do it. Do it. Objection noted will do this without you. Do it.

Do it. Do it. Do it. We come back to engineering where some random Voth is walking around. Yeah. Engineering totally deserted, either because everyone there has been taken prisoner. Right. I think. I think you're right about that.

And this one single Voth is just hopeless in the face of a creatively thinking Tom Paris. Yeah. He turns the phaser rifle into a bludgeon, and knocks this guy out, and Radius up to the captain that he's got a full spread, the last spread of torpedoes, ready to go. She does not hesitate. The pen and Paris fire.

There's like less hesitation here than Riker ordering Wharf to light up the deflector dish. What did you think was going to happen though? I am a betting man. I would have bet anything that they shoot the torpedoes and they do nothing in like a total demonstration of technological impotence, which would be realistic. They are overmatched in every way, especially with the reaction. That would have been crushing to lose the torpedoes

on such a pointless thing too. That's what I'm saying, because the guy Janeway's talking to doesn't seem phased by this at all. I don't even think he says anything. No, it's just like the screen scrambles out and Paris's volley does not succeed. She's like, Paris, did you shoot the torpedoes?

And he's like, I can't! Nice try, Tom. This failure having taken place, Gagan and Chicoet are brought into the throne room with Emperor Palpatinosaurus. This is the trial. They're here to have judgment rendered on them. And basically, Gagan is asked, like, do you have anything else to say about your shitty theory?

The trial never ends for the bath. Yeah. Fucking amen. I should have saved that observation for the end. You really not made to like this minister at any point. I don't want to be here any more than you do. Do you really not made to like this minister at any point? I don't want to be here any more than you do. No, she's a very familiar thing, like a politician, even a politician with whom you agree on a lot of stuff,

failing to put scientific reality in front of political experience. And all that's going on here is that she doesn't want to deal with any political fallout from a discovery that is somewhat jarring to people's worldview. And the idea that the proof of the hypothesis stands right next to Gagan is even more crazy-making. Yeah, it's like irrelevant to her that she's looking at the proof in physical form. The minister is a cool story, bro. The data may be right, but your interpretation must be wrong. And this is what we're talking about. It's so hard to argue interpretation. Yeah. Because it's a personal thing. Especially when your fucking assistant turns out to be a total

turncoat. Yeah. What do you think this guy's shot is with Gagan's daughter at this point? The thing is Gagan's daughter is on viewers new side of things. Like it probably makes him even more attractive to her. She's like, what am I gonna do, Dad? Live with you while you make Dick working as a metallurgist. No, I'm getting married to assistant to Sores, who's going to be rich.

I, uh, my mind went directly to where it shouldn't have when you were talking about making dick. Get your mind out of the gutter. It took everything to pivot out of that into the metallurgy. I suppose in their society, she would say, who's making cloaca as a metallurgist? Oh, yeah. Yeah, not a lot of money in that. No.

Cloaca, very small amount. So yeah, this is a huge slap in the face to kick in. And so she begins to render the judgment. And the judgment is bad. It is, he's gonna go like toil on a penal colony. There is no stockade, no guard tower. As are everybody that was on board Voyager. It's a moment where I would have loved to see what Cass was up to and could she freshen up, Asorian.

Yeah, I mean, and the doctor, like the idea of Voyager being taken over has happened before. Yeah. And there are some interesting defenses in those two characters that have made themselves valuable in moments like these. They're not in the story at this point. This judgment is so fucking over the top. It's so brutal. It's a judgment so brutal. And in retrospect, do you understand that it only serves to affect the change in Gagan? But at the time of its reading, I was like,

holy shit. Yeah. He's fucked and done for here. And there's no getting out of it. I was fairly surprised that Gagan was able to reverse it in their favor. Right. Because at that point, he's like, okay, some new thoughts have entered my mind and I'd like to share them with you. My distant origin theory is a bunch of bullshit

and I clearly miss an interpretive data. If he didn't have that moment earlier with Chico Te about being so selfless, I think this hits a little differently. Totally. It hits wrong. Yeah. But it hits right because of that scene. And it works. The minister doesn't have to feel like the alien trash of the galaxy if this disdainordered and theory is totally discredited. She's like, cool, well, you can go work as a metallurgist and you voyage your people can get the fuck out of here as fast as you can. And like I definitely wanted to co-tay to say like, how about you, uh,

transwarp us to the far side of your space that you believe you control and drop us off because you can go way faster than we can. I mean, what Chicoete doesn't say is that, but what he does say is a ton. Like, this is a great Chicoete episode. He gets a lawyer Chicoete moment here. Totally. That is extremely persuasive, even though it doesn't work. Like, it's an extremely good look for him.

Minister, come on, you're like Star Trek. You took to space the final frontier. These are the voyages of ancient Saurians from Earth. They're 65 million year mission to seek out the Delta Quadrant and not hang out with any endotherm. We are not immigrants. Chicoete is so adept at using the Voth's story against them. He never personalizes it though. Like he could have used a native American story as a version of this too. Really glad that we didn't get a pen flute and a cute and a nice dodge. They do get a little goodbye scene. Can I tell you this was

exactly the moment that the CBS app spulled up next episode. This has been happening to me lately in Voyager, where it's not during the credits. It's three minutes before the credits again. The big box turns into small box and it says next episode of Voyager coming up in five four, like, oh, fuck, where's the remote? Yeah, the last two episodes has done that. The button on the episode is giggin kind of lamenting that his metallurgical career is probably going to be pretty shitty. And Chico Tay leaving him with a little trinket to remember him by.

Here is a paperweight that looks like the planet Earth. I thought it is a museum gift shop. Shikote is like, it is customary when a gift is given for a gift to be reciprocated. So, if you've got any of that trans-warp technology laying around, that would be a great big help. But he doesn't ask for that. No. Which suggests, like, are they they transwarp exclusionary Propulsion interested

That's the case fuck this show. That's what I'm saying You could ask Chico Tay you could have asked Yeah, he goes like, how about a trend-whip thing in Gagin's? Like, can't share that, but I can't give you this bug lamp. Chico Tay's like, thanks, it's lovely. Straight into the trash with that. Chico Tay beams out of there and like football dunks it into the garbage can. He puts it in the same room as the cloaked apple and everyone thinks it's just the bug thing

that stinks. It's actually the cloaked apple. Oh, that's what's going on in there. Yeah. Did you like this episode, Adam? I only don't want to do it. Do it. Coffee, black, make it yourself.

I'm trying to help you see this as an opportunity to grow. Make it yourself. Sometimes Star Trek does the magic trick of, like, we'll watch an episode that feels very present in its themes, and the idea of, like, intellectual inflexibility and entrenched beliefs being a threat to progress or saving lives or whatever. Right.

Felt magical in its timelessness. Right. Sadly magical, really. Sad that this magic trick still works. I read that there's just like a real Galileo trial by the Catholic Church inspiration to this story. Yeah. And when I read that, I was like, yeah, it totally is. Which is even more crushing because that means it's been with us for hundreds of years.

Yeah, we're just stuck in the cycle of it. And I mean, because I like episodes that make me feel, I did feel bad in this episode for that. And then that way, I think it's a success. I really liked it. Yeah, I think it's a really interesting and unique episode. Really awesome directing, awesome camera work, awesome performances. I mean, it doesn't really you'll exactly like it's a Chico Tay episode, but like on paper, Beltrend gets like kind of the most to do

of any of our main characters and I feel like he really uses that time for all its worth. As soon as he's transported over to that ship, he's got to be expecting a pregnant girlfriend to come to the door at some point, right? It seems to happen every time. Damn it, every time I get kidnapped, fuck! It was one hole, I didn't have any choice. It was cold. Do you know how badly lubricated a cloaca is?

It sucks! Life finds a way. I mean, Chicoote demonstrating himself three seasons in as kind of a great stickman in Voyager. Yeah, yeah, almost almost on Harry Kim's level. Yeah, quite. Yeah, that's big fun. Do you want to get into those P1s, Adam? Priority one message from Starfleet coming in on Secured Channel. Need a supplement on him. supplement on him?

supplement. supplement. Yeah, it's extra. The interest alone could be enough to buy this ship. Stop a little under. Stop a little under? Stop a little. Stop a little. Yeah, it's extra. The interest alone could be enough to buy this ship! Well, Ben, there are no priority when messages this episode because it is a very special Max Fun Drive episode of the greatest generation. This is the second week of the Max Fun Drive in the year 2022.

So if you're listening to this in the back catalog, that is why no P1s. We hope we have a great max fund drive, but we don't know. Only you know. Yeah, it's up to you. Listening to the back catalog. But if you'd like to help support the show, maximumfund.org slash join. And if you'd like to get a P1, which also supports the show, add demaxingwimfund.org slash jembo tron. Hey Ben, what's that out? Did you find yourself a drunk Shimoda? At a hard time finding one, but I think I'm going to give it to Gagan just for the like, I always love a... this is almost a trope at this point, but a scientist looking at a thing we know

all about and drawing kind of bad conclusions by trying to extrapolate from a limited amount of information. And that's seen at the beginning of him like trying to Get an idea of what a human being might be like is a very funny execution of that drop and I'm gonna give it to him for that It's a good call. I think I'm gonna give my Intitia Kote Because he is just so comfortable being a hostage Yeah, almost a willing participant in his own hostage taking. Yeah, it's like a comfy old pair of sweatpants It's like he doesn old pair of sweatpants. It's like he doesn't want to be on voyage or anymore. Yeah.

And that always made him a little bit of a wildcard this app. Like, I didn't know what he was going to do next. And I was frequently impressed at his choices. So Chico Tei's my Shemoto this app. Chaotic Chico Tei. I like it. Well, Adam, why don't you head over to the

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It feels like the last half dozen episodes have been just pure science fiction episodes. Science fiction storylines transposed onto a Star Trek Voyager cast of characters. Indeed. I do not really remember this one. I'm excited to revisit an episode that has left my memory. Well Ben, it's May the 2nd, which means our runabout is on square 38. Wow. It's strange to say I don't think

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