The Greatest Generation - Pan Pain (ENT S3E1)

Episode Date: May 12, 2025

When the Entrepreneur is six weeks into the expanse, the Captain’s only lead is an unscrupulous foreman with a Xindi miner. But when Archer and Trip get trapped with the prisoner, their sewer-based ...escape ends tragically at a set of useless coordinates that push them deeper into the expanse. Where’s the fresh content for a Florence Nightingale foot fetish? What could have made Trip’s nightmare better? Who is turning professional compliance inside out? It’s the episode that was very close to gruel.Support the production of The Greatest GenerationGet a thing at podshop.biz!Sign up for our mailing list!Follow The Game of Buttholes: The Will of the Riker - Quantum LeapThe Greatest Generation is produced by Wynde PriddySocial media is managed by Rob Adler and Bill TilleyMusic by Adam Ragusea & Dark MateriaFriends of DeSoto for: Labor | Democracy | JusticeDiscuss the show using the hashtag #GreatestGen and find us on social media:YouTube | Facebook | X | Instagram | TikTok | Mastodon | Bluesky | ThreadsAnd check out these online communities run by FODs: Reddit | USS Hood Discord | Facebook group | Wikia | FriendsOfDeSoto.social

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Starting point is 00:00:00 Here's to the finest crew in Starling. When it comes to my crew, you won't get any argument from me. This is a parody Paramount owns the song But if we change the words Then it's fair use all day long And you will never take the greatest shit alive Men would rather die
Starting point is 00:00:29 No they're not gonna sue, they got no case Cause parody indemnifies And I've got faith of the far heart Legally it's just a fart joke It's good faith to believe I can do parity, I won't cease or desist Cause you really think it's fair, you've got free speech and guitar And guitars I can't pay Couldn't fill late
Starting point is 00:01:07 Got no case Tempting fate Faith of the fart Welcome to the Greatest Generation It's a Star Trek podcast by a couple of guys just a little bit embarrassed about having a Star Trek podcast I'm Adam Pranica I'm Ben Harrison Put me on the injured list today, Adam.
Starting point is 00:01:28 Play the drop. What's wrong with Ben this time? You've been to my house. You've seen the room in it that is unfortunately called kitchen, because we don't have a better thing to call that. Most people don't like their own kitchen, I think. Have you noticed this? Yeah. The thing is, I have so many kitchens to compare my kitchen to. It's the worst kitchen I've ever had in my entire life.
Starting point is 00:01:58 I don't want to victim blame you very much. But you saw the house before you bought it, right? We did. And we bought a house. Let's just say this house had a lot of potential. But I think there was a lot of distracting potential, right? Because when you think about the places that you'll spend the most time in a house you're considering living in, it's hard to look for places to live and hold it all in your mind. Like, okay, I guess this is the bedroom and that's like the living room. That's where we're going to set up the record player and the TV and so forth. And like, do we have room for the couch? Do we have room for like
Starting point is 00:02:37 all of the rest of the shit you're bringing? And the kitchen too, like, I feel like it's easy for the kitchen to fall kind of down the list in a way that is most unfortunate because like any house party you've ever been to, the kitchen's the place to be and that's where you spend most of your time. And like, I'm admitting this too, Ben, like in every place we've ever thought about living and then maybe did eventually, I never think about the kitchen in a way that it deserves. Yeah. It's galling. So one of the things is like, it's the kind of kitchen where like, you can't have two things open at once because every door or drawer, you know, conflicts with
Starting point is 00:03:18 another door or drawer. And the dishwasher opens right in front of the stove. And last night- Oh, that fucking sucks. Yeah. The very first place we moved to in LA had that configuration. That's brutal. It's brutal. And so last night I was putting dirty dishes into the dishwasher, bent over, and when I popped up,
Starting point is 00:03:43 my shoulder hit the handle of a frying pan, like one of these carbon steel frying pans, and it fell on my foot. I've been in excruciating pain ever since. I've been elevating, I've been icing, I've got the compression tape on. I woke up in tears in the middle of the night last night and like had my wife go get me Advil.
Starting point is 00:04:11 How does it look? I don't, I haven't had the guts to look at it. Ben, I fucking love you, man. But you gotta look at your foot. I gotta look at my, all right. If it's injured, what are you doing? After hearing your medical judgment, I kind of want you to show me your fucking foot
Starting point is 00:04:26 so I can tell you whether or not it's broken. All right, hold on. Oh, it's got a lot of tape on it. It doesn't look good. It's actually less bruised than I thought it was gonna be. There's some redness, but I think that's from the compression. And this was last night? Yeah, I can see where it hit.
Starting point is 00:04:41 And it hurts like fuck. I'm hobbling. I'm hobbling. I'm, man, I got a New York trip in like less than two weeks. I want this thing to heal. You'd know if it were broken, right? You know what a broken bone feels like. You know what a broken toe feels like. I mean, it fell like right on the top of my foot.
Starting point is 00:05:01 And I feel like the top of your foot is just all little bones. So I feel like I could have a broken little bone in there. Oh yeah, absolutely. What are all those little bones? What are they doing in there? That's bone. I've broken a toe before. And what I recall is that there's really not much
Starting point is 00:05:19 you can do for that. Yeah. Like time and tide fixes a broken toe. Yeah. Yeah, it's fixes a broken toe. Yeah. Yeah. It's like a broken rib. I don't think they're going to cast you up. Just nothing to do about it. You almost garden stated yourself.
Starting point is 00:05:32 I mean, this is going to be me, uh, choosing the bright side of the situation, Ben, but like you could have gone ass over tea kettle and just straight up died in your, in the kitchen that you hated. So at least that didn't happen. And that carbon steel pan could have been filled with scalding hot oil.
Starting point is 00:05:50 I expected the story to get far darker, to be honest. As soon as the pot handle was involved, I thought shit was gonna get spilled, but you're saying nothing got spilled. It was empty and it fell. No, it was like a couple hours after dinner. Like we had like finished our hamburgers and we yeah, like I was in there like cleaning up, getting ready to go to bed and this happened
Starting point is 00:06:13 when a non-hot pan was in play. I'm glad you finally looked at your injury now that it's nearly 24 hours later. That's good, right? Yeah. Now that it's nearly 24 hours later. That's good, right? Yeah, I mean like I looked at it right after because I was you know Wrapping it in the ice pack and all that foot stuff is no fun Yeah, do you think that people are capturing screenshots of the stream and putting me on wiki feet? Based on this or is wiki feet only for for lady feet? Oh, I think it's for feet of all kinds.
Starting point is 00:06:45 For all kinds of feet. I think if you have an interest in injured feet, yours might rocket to the top of the list. Yeah, I don't know how that works. Are there injured feet enthusiasts? I guess there must be, right? It's a Florence Nightingale foot fetish where like you see an injured foot
Starting point is 00:07:04 and you just wanna help it. Oh yeah, yeah, I can fix it. Is rule 47 the rule that any Star Trek horny thing that you can think of exists as porn on the internet? I'm not making slash fiction about your foot though. I appreciate that my friend. Did you learn anything about your kitchen experience that you're gonna practice going forward? Like pot handle out, out into the space of the kitchen?
Starting point is 00:07:32 Because I was frying panning, you know, I was flipping burgers in there. You were, you said this was hours before this incident. Yeah, but then I put the hot burgers on the plate and rushed them out to my Yeah, but then I put the hot burgers on the plate and rushed them out to my sweet lady so she could enjoy a nice piping hot, delicious gourmet meal prepared by Chef Ben. You've worked in kitchens around the world with stars of Miriam number, Ben. You think they're paying attention to the direction of the handles as it relates to the safety of the people working in the kitchen? They might be, I don't know.
Starting point is 00:08:06 I think it's time to lock that shit down, man. Go Six Sigma with your pots and pans. I fear and resent the concept of Six Sigma. And look at where it got you. Do you wanna see if Archer and team believe in the concept of Six Sigma, Adam? I bet there are some new characters this episode that would really be down with Six Sigma. Let's get to talking about them in a little bit, Ben.
Starting point is 00:08:37 On the season premiere of season three of Star Trek Enterprise, it's episode one, and it's called The Zindi. Got free speech and guitar. And we begin with the last time on Enterprise, as introduced by Scott Bakula. Last time on Enterprise, not Star Trek Enterprise. Hmm. Is that what we should be calling it? It feels like a thing that we should call it.
Starting point is 00:09:10 Because that's what it calls itself? Yeah. This is like pronouns, right? Enterprise would prefer that you call the show Enterprise. But also, like, I feel like this is a thing that started around the time of this show coming out and has like pervaded until now, which is like in the tech product parlance, you never use the definite article. Like Steve Jobs would say, and today we are unveiling iPhone. He would never say the iPhone. Right, it's cleaner. Or an iPhone. And I think that it's gross and weird.
Starting point is 00:09:47 And I noticed it happening a little bit with Voyager where, you know, Janeway would say... Wait, you think it's gross and weird? Go back to that part. Why? What is that? I want the definite article. It's the enterprise. It's Star Trek Enterprise.
Starting point is 00:10:01 It's, you know, like, it's not Voyager, it's The Voyager. Doesn't it seem like that's informed by military history though? Like, isn't that what naval ships are called for time in the Miriam? I kind of feel a familiarity to this way of calling things. Yeah, I don't dig it. I definitely don't dig it when it comes to a technology product.
Starting point is 00:10:28 And it feels like it crept into Star Trek later in Star Trek's life. The new Star Trek haters would totally get with that. Like, don't even call it Star Trek discovery. Call it discovery or whatever. Call it Star Wars discovery. Yeah, well it discovery or whatever. Call it Star Wars discovery. Yeah. Well, maybe this is my heel turn. Maybe I'm finding common cause with those people finally.
Starting point is 00:10:53 Our cold open is in the Zindi Council McLaughlin group. Issue one. Yeah. They've got kind of a Legion of Dune vibe with this, don't they? In what way? Just like a bunch of bad guys sitting around a table together, like, conniving. Interestingly you say that. This is a group of people that I think don't think they're evil.
Starting point is 00:11:14 Yes. Like, in what they're talking about, what they're talking about and strategizing around is, it seems like defense of and observation of a threat. And what you gather in this conversation between them is that there are many factions of what Zindi are. There are Zindi reptiles and Zindi insects, Zindi primate, Zindi aquatic, and then Zindi something else. I wasn't sure of what the fifth Zindi was,
Starting point is 00:11:44 but like you could compare them to the types of animal species generally that there are on earth. Maybe one of them Zindi Birdman. And we don't see that yet. I don't know. He's off camera fucking if there's a Birdman. They all seem to understand each other, even though the insect is a real clicker.
Starting point is 00:12:07 Yeah. There's mutual intelligibility, but some of them get subtitles. For our benefit. The aquatics and the insectoids are among them. And yeah, they're debating what do we do about the fact that the entrepreneur is coming? Is this the first wave of the onslaught that we are worried about? Can they even know that that attack was us? How could they?
Starting point is 00:12:36 I mean, this was why I pushed back lightly on your initial read of the group. This is a group that represents a species that was attacked, whose home world was destroyed and are like seeking to prevent that from happening again. It was, but it will be. It's like 400 years in the future that they're worried about, right? It is such a mind fuck. Yeah. That's where we find ourselves here at the beginning of season three. It feels like at this point, Enterprise is being surveilled in a way that they're unaware of.
Starting point is 00:13:09 Yeah. And like this group, this Zindi McLaughlin group is going to be one step ahead of them at all times. Yeah. Sort of like observing the Enterprise, like a rat entering a maze that is the Delphic expanse. Only this rat maze is capable of turning the rats inside out and keeping them alive, per what we learned in the season finale.
Starting point is 00:13:32 Yeah, and in the last time on. They remind us of that in the last time on. Right. So we go to the opening theme, new version, who dis? What'd you think of it? I think in many ways a weirder shift than the first version of Faith of the Heart, because we just ended with this like, you know, some capital D dun-dun-duns in our cold open. And then, you know, like the egg shaker and the strummy guitar, the total yacht rockification of Faith of the Heart has finally been completed.
Starting point is 00:14:10 And it just, it felt like such a tone clash from the score that we just came out of in that cold open scene. I had to look up when this episode was made because the thought that made sense to me after hearing this version was that, yes, this sounds like Aerosmith's Don't Wanna Miss a Thing because of its guitar solo, its more
Starting point is 00:14:34 pronounced guitar themes. Yeah. And like, oh, yeah, of course, one would inform the other. And I was like, okay, well, when was this episode made? 2003. When was Arm this episode made? 2003. When was Armageddon made? 1998. And I was like, well, that works kind of imperfectly.
Starting point is 00:14:53 Why wasn't the first version of the Enterprise theme this theme? Because then my thesis would make sense. Now I think it's just confused. It's either confused or the inspiration for this came late, like way late. I wonder about that because it feels like if this was the theme of the first two seasons and then they shifted to what they had in the first two seasons to now, then I would be like, I get it. I had that thought throughout this episode.
Starting point is 00:15:26 Like, this is probably not a new observation, but like, what if this were season one, episode one of Enterprise? Wow. In every way, theme and otherwise. Made me think. Hmm. Well, we come back after this new version of the theme
Starting point is 00:15:44 to kind of a new tactical command center play set, which I guess has replaced some kind of storage bay. We get to talking. It's to Paul Reed and Captain Archer. And they're heading to a mining planet to find out about a Zindi that somebody might have seen there a while back. The while back is two years ago. That's what makes this mission hilarious to me. Yeah, but they've also been in the Delphic Expanse for six weeks and like,
Starting point is 00:16:18 A, nobody has incited out themselves or like, and there hasn't been like mass hysteria aboard the ship as we've been warned, but B, like they have nothing to go on. This is the first lead that they've come across. Imagine how it would feel to have heard about the inside outing of people in the Delphic and then being inside this place for weeks and every little goose bump or or like get out of bed weird and like maybe there's a little oh that that's a weird feeling yeah like you might have dropped a pan on your foot but like is that normal pan pain or am I starting to turn inside out it starts the foot? I would never have thought it would start in the foot. A certain personality would become obsessed and unable to work.
Starting point is 00:17:12 I think, were you to have the foreknowledge of the inside outness? And I wonder how many people aboard the ship do? Yeah. And I've got faith of the far heart Legally it's just a fart joke T'Pol certainly does not seem to be shaken. She's upgraded her look a little bit, which, I mean, we saw what she looked like when they entered the Delphic Expanse.
Starting point is 00:17:38 So in between then and now, she had six weeks to go like, you know what, I think I'm gonna change my hair a little bit. Maybe get a couple to go like, you know what, I think I'm going to change my hair a little bit. Maybe get a couple of new outfits, you know, thinking about changing things up. Eyebrows got a little swoopier, a little more body to the back of the head hairstyle. Sure. I mean, I'm presuming they got our note about,
Starting point is 00:18:01 to Paul leaving rooms and showing us the back of her head so often. Like they finally changed the hairstyle in a way that where I think that looks a lot better going forward. She's not the only one who got a new haircut, Ben. I thought Archer rocking the from dusk till dawn haircut was pretty striking. Yeah. It's kind of the tail end of the Caesar, I would say. The Caesar's back for sure, but in like a hipster, like an evil hipster kind of context now. The three of them are talking, Archer, T'Pol, and Reed. And I love that this season begins with an almost two minute oner, because we've set up the camera
Starting point is 00:18:45 in the corner of this new location, and it seems to be on a dolly that goes maybe two feet. And then as Archer circles back around the other two and around the central table, the camera is both sliding and rotating to follow him as he goes around to the right side of the frame and then back and forward to the middle of T'Pol and Reid in a really elegant move. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:19:15 It is so much for Bakula to keep in his head because he's basically the only mover of the three and he's having to hit three or four distinct marks based on his dialogue. And I watched the scene three or four times to kind of like pick up where his eyes were to see if he was looking at marks or anything. He's such a stone cold pro. It made me love Bakula a lot for the scene. Like he was so good in this. Yeah, the blocking is complex and it's a really intense moment because he's totally nut-stomping Reed about second guessing whether they should be like running this lead down because they don't have leads.
Starting point is 00:19:57 Like it's a moment of embarrassment, I think, for Captain Archer because they've spent so much time looking to answer the attack on Earth and they got nothing. And it feels to him like a ticking time bomb. Like at some point we're all going to lose our minds or go inside out. So like we got to just, we got to like fanatically run down every lead we've got, no matter how spurious it seems. And yet every lead we've got is basically this and this alone. And they've got the time because absent the other leads, like this, this'll be good, right?
Starting point is 00:20:36 That's the tone things end on. In the mess hall, Hoshi sits with the Mako troops that are now aboard Enterprise for this mission. And I've forgotten their names already. Like, this is just classic Adam meeting a group of people. Hoshi is meeting this group of people. Getting the Around the Horn. I'm like, cool, whatever.
Starting point is 00:20:56 But, couple of familiar faces here that I just love. Beginning with Nathan Anderson, who played the leader of the Vori Defense Contingent back on Voyager. Team leader, bro, fourth Vori Defense Contingent. I gotta get a pump. That's it, get it. What a striking looking guy.
Starting point is 00:21:16 What a military typecast face. Perfect job with them. He looks great. And also Daniel Dae Kim as a familiar too. We don't see either of them, I think, for the rest of the episode, but it seems like they're going to be a going concern as long as they're on board for this mission. Stephen Culp is their leader. Major Hayes.
Starting point is 00:21:39 That's the name to remember, right? Yeah. Major Hayes. Probably the rest will be sort of red-shirt-y and interchangeable, but pretty cool to see Daniel Day Kim early in his career. Do you think the Mako group wanted to leave, but then when Hoshi sat down, they had to stick around so they didn't hurt her feelings about being done with lunch and getting up to go? Because there is a uniformity to the alright
Starting point is 00:22:06 Lunch is over and everyone fucking ditches Hoshi to sit at the table alone We have a briefing in a few minutes if you'll excuse us. I Mean we just found out that they've been in the expanse for six weeks with no clues to go on like what could they possibly? Be getting briefed There is no way that Hoshi isn't just a little bit hurt by this, I think. It's tough. Should I not have brought up what small town in the Midwest that guy came from? Elsewhere in the corridor, Trip is telling Archer about an incident in the cargo bay where stuff is kind of flying around, like the library in the beginning scene of Ghostbusters.
Starting point is 00:22:43 It blew books off shelves from 20 feet away and scared the socks off some poor librarian. They go to look at it and it's by reputation, not the first anomaly they've encountered since being in this area of space. And once they see all the cargo going to and fro, Archer's like, all right, well, no one should come in here and we're locking the door once we leave it. I love that there's no attempt made's like, all right, well, no one should come in here and we're locking the door once we leave it.
Starting point is 00:23:05 I love that there's no attempt made to, like, remove the cargo from the room or anything. I mean, how could you? Just let it be. It's up on the wall. Yeah. So this is the kind of anomaly that they've gotten, not the other kinds that make you a raving maniac
Starting point is 00:23:21 that pulls your own eyeballs out. I was looking very closely at these containers. None of them seem to be opening and turning themselves inside out. Yeah. But I'm on the lookout. Yeah. Also on the lookout is Dr. Flax in Six Bay
Starting point is 00:23:36 doing some microscoping. When T'Pol walks in, he's looking at Zindi cells that make him believe that the Zindi that he's looking at could be a reptilian. And Dr. Flux breaks HIPAA protocol to tell her that he's been treating Tripp Tucker for his grief with a cocktail of drugs, but wonders if Vulcan Euro pressure might be the way to go here. And he knows someone who might know how to do that.
Starting point is 00:24:05 Mitch on Baywatch will occasionally find out that he's got like a degree in architecture or something and be like, what? I've been watching this show for three seasons. Since when? Whatever's useful for the story. Yeah. And this isn't necessarily useful for the story, but it's useful for something. The reveal that T'Pol has bodywork qualifications.
Starting point is 00:24:29 Look, if she can just teach Tripp this neuro pressure technique, it'll keep Tripp Tucker out of six bay, which will make Dr. Flax's life a little better. I think that's the subtext here. Oh yeah. Give a man a sleeping pill and he'll sleep for a night. Teach a man to plex and he'll jack off in the holodeck for time in the Miriam. The best way out is through. You said that once, remember?
Starting point is 00:24:56 I suppose I did. This is a good scene for T'Pol because she's like, I know Tripp Tucker. Don't you? And don't you also believe that he would never want to do this? Yeah. And Dr. Flax is like, you got to try, right? Like, neither of us have heard no.
Starting point is 00:25:14 And then Twist, also you have to convince him? Yeah, because Dr. Flax has made it seem as though he's already gotten Tripp on board. No, he hasn't done that. That is for T'Pol to do. He kind of parent traps her, but he sort of tells her he's gonna parent trap her, and he parent traps her, and then he tells her he parent trapped her.
Starting point is 00:25:34 It's like the dirty talk of parent trapping someone. Yeah. If we change the world Then it's fair use all day long. We go to the shuttle pod that is heading down to this mine planet. It's a mine planet, a high AQI planet. Reed and Archer step out and immediately start coughing. And they get greeted by some people who actually have proper respiration attire for this environment.
Starting point is 00:26:08 Hearing you talk about the secret mining facility made me think of the MacGruber sketches from SNL, and their establishing shot is always like mining lab, like on a sign. In looking at the exterior, did it look icy or was it just smoky? Or was it icy and smoky, which is what I thought it was. Oh, I didn't get icy, I just got like dusty. The light jackets sort of revealed that it might not have been as cold as I thought. Yeah. I mean, the color palette is definitely cool. A cool color palette. Did you read that production ground up, like, tons and tons of blue-colored Styrofoam and spread it all around the set? And you know what Styrofoam does when it's busted up, right?
Starting point is 00:26:59 It sticks to everything and everybody. Oh, God. What I read was that this stuff was sticking to everything in the Paramount lot, like for weeks and weeks and months. Like they just couldn't get rid of this. Ha ha ha. Oh, man. My roommates years ago threw a, like a New Year's party
Starting point is 00:27:17 and a girl came in a sequined dress and the hem of the dress got snagged on something. And so she was just shedding trillions of sequins all night at this party. And for like two years, we never saw the end of it. Like every time you swept or like, you know, looked under a shelf or something, like tons of sequins would inevitably show up.
Starting point is 00:27:41 Ben, why weren't you at this New Year's party? I was out of town. I was like, town. I was visiting the Bay Area or something. Canadian girlfriend? This is an apartment I lived in with my wife. Oh, Canadian girlfriend? Yeah. You don't need to tell her about that though. It's weird how we get Archer and Reed on the surface like breathing without masks wearing their light coats kicking around the styrofoam and stuff and we Reed's like
Starting point is 00:28:13 we don't need uh EV suits we're just fine and we learn a little bit later in the episode that like nothing survives on the surface. How did they get this one so wrong? I don't know. Yeah, Flax was like, oh yeah, you guys will be fine. Try not to breathe. Yes, sir. Anyways, we meet a very wet man who is the mine foreman, and he will tell them about this zindi dude, but he would like some liquid platinum for his trouble. Got that, got that liquid platinum. Got that, got that liquid platinum. Am I right?
Starting point is 00:28:51 This is not something that they carry with them in high abundance. It's an awkward moment because he comes right out with it. A half liter of platinum in exchange for meeting a minor. All Archer and Reed have is this six pack of Mike's Hard Lemonade. And what's going on here seems pretty pervy, doesn't it? Yeah. They're like, okay, say we did bring back this liquid platinum, like how do we know that this minor is Indy? And that question is so insulting to the foreman. He has to give Archer the finger. This actor I recognized, I feel like I've just seen him in like a million things. I
Starting point is 00:29:30 couldn't place my finger on exactly what I like most strongly associate him with, but he was a lot of fun to watch. Did you recognize him as, it's a fake? Oh yeah. He's, it's a fake guy. He's also got some like X-Files episodes, got some Walker Texas Ranger episodes. He's got a great voice. What exactly do you want with our Cindy friend? He was also Dr. Reston on Seinfeld.
Starting point is 00:30:02 Hmm. Got a big arc on Seinfeld, like multiple episodes. He, like so many other people who work at this facility, have like the fighter pilot mask just sort of flopping off of his face to use whenever he needs it. He's... He kind of reminded me of the Forest Whitaker character in Rogue One, where like, it seems like some health thing has caused him to have a lot more tubes than most of the rest of his colleagues, but maybe they're all headed in that direction ultimately.
Starting point is 00:30:35 They make a deal with him because he can prove that there is a Zindi there. He tosses a dirty rag to Archer and it's got a toe with nail polish. I will not abide another toe. Kind of a jarring cut from here. It's a gorgeous day in Florida. The date? September 11th, 2153. And Tripp is trying to warn his sister about something.
Starting point is 00:31:06 He's yelling, but it's that dreamlike thing where you're hollering, but the person you're trying to get the attention of can't hear you. And it's his sister. It's also just a bad shirt that he's got on. I feel like that's a big portion of what's nightmarish about this experience. Like a lot of people, when they go to a tourist town, they wanna get like the fun tourist shirt. There's an entire economy of shops built to satisfy this urge.
Starting point is 00:31:36 And I just want to suggest to anyone out there planning on going on vacation and maybe visiting the shop, don't go to the clearance rack. If you're going to get a fun tourist shirt, get a cool, fun pattern tourist shirt. Not this shit that Tripp is wearing in this scene. This is a bad tourist shirt on the clearance rack. It's no good. It takes all of the pattern cues of an Alooha shirt, but then it's all patches
Starting point is 00:32:08 of burlap and beaten up ultra suede and stuff. It looks like shit. Decide what you do, tourist shirt. Because I don't know what this one does. No. It's not festive or fun. Yeah. That's for sure. Neither festive nor fun is the orbital bombardment beam
Starting point is 00:32:27 cutting its way toward Tripp's sister. And as it gets so close to reaching her, Tripp wakes up from his nightmare. And he goes, oh my God, that was such a bad shirt. I kind of wish I was first in line for that orbital bombardment beam. I would have ripped off that shirt line for that orbital bump armor beam. I would have ripped off that shirt and flung it into the beam. I don't know if it's possible to calibrate something like this, but if you could shoot
Starting point is 00:32:54 the shirt off of somebody from orbit, that would have been perfect. Like without hurting the person wearing it, just shoot my shirt off. The shirt's bad. And Six-Bay Captain Archer has given Dr. Flux the finger that he got on the mining planet. And yes and no isn't a great answer to the question, is it Zindi? I need something a little more concrete, doctor. It's not the same species, but it's very, very close. And I thought this was a scene that felt like it could have been so much more interesting if we hadn't had the Zindi Legion of Doom
Starting point is 00:33:34 right at the beginning. Like if we hadn't seen what the Zindi look like. Why can't we figure out what they are? And then the reveal at the end. That's what I'm saying. Like, and then like we could learn it from the minor that they find eventually. Like, you know, that would have been, that would have been such an interesting twist, but it just felt like it was kind of undercut by that, that cold open.
Starting point is 00:33:56 Testimony from minors so often can't be trusted though. Sure. Sure. I mean, especially after they've had a couple of smear off ices or whatever. Sure. I mean, especially after they've had a couple of smirnoff ices or whatever. The computer is able to mock up a sort of courtroom sketch of what the guy on the probe that attacked Earth looks like, and he looks pretty cold-blooded. Yeah. And that's weird because the zindi belonging to the finger is determined to be a little
Starting point is 00:34:21 more mammalian, yeah? Right. Humanoid. Yeah. is determined to be a little more mammalian, yeah? Right, humanoid. Yeah. So yeah, it's a real head scratcher for Flax and Archer. And Tripp walks in at this point. With a six pack of liquid platinum. He's like, hey, we're ready to go back down there
Starting point is 00:34:39 and we've got the goods. But before he leaves Six Bay, Tripp tells Flax about how the sleep's not going great. He's gonna need a little boost in the Medicina department. Dr. Flax, do you think you could give me something to sleep like a handsome looking Hawaiian shirt? Something from your collection and not my own.
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Starting point is 00:38:08 on the Celebrity Trivia Show Go Fact Yourself. For over 150 episodes, we've welcomed guests like DJ Jazzy Jeff, Audie Cornish, and Andy Richter to tell us why they love what they love and then get quizzed on it. And past quizzes have included some pretty unexpected topics like Reverse painting. The perfect flip turn while swimming
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Starting point is 00:38:53 Rather die, what? They go back down, talking to the foreman, and at this point, Archer's really playing hardball. He wants the foreman to, like, personally escort them down there to meet the Zindi dude or no platinum. Yeah, it's weird because the Foreman's usually like, most people who want to meet the miners don't want a chaperone. Kind of weird.
Starting point is 00:39:23 We have many private rooms for this on this planet. I mean, I love Archer. I love Archer this whole episode, but maybe starting here, because he's like, look, man, we brought the six pack. You're telling me he's still asleep? Wake his ass up. I don't give a shit about his sleep schedule. They head down there.
Starting point is 00:39:43 Saw a chaotic bro in the caves. That was fun. That was neat. That looked like a Benzite. There's some talk as they're going about, oh, so you must be from like a starship. Like you got a lot of people on that starship, like pretty big, fairly large crew, would you say? I don't like this at all.
Starting point is 00:40:01 I think Archer and Tripp should have shut the fuck up and said as little as possible about how they got there. Yeah. It's like talking to cops. Like don't offer information that you don't need to offer to wet mine foreman who's selling you miners. Finally, they get to a part of the cavern where this Zindi is thrown at their feet. This is Keswick.
Starting point is 00:40:24 And he's pretty upset about getting his finger cut off in what was where this Zindi is thrown at their feet. This is Keswick. And he's pretty upset about getting his finger cut off in what was definitely not an accident. And not only that, he takes great umbrage with getting his whole life there messed up because these two dipshits just want directions to his home planet. His energy right away is big.
Starting point is 00:40:44 Yeah. You have important business with your people. But you don't know where to find them? I mean, if you got your finger cut off because someone wanted driving directions, I feel like you would be similarly upset. Ben, I wouldn't take the meeting. Yeah. I mean, I don't think Keswick had a choice here.
Starting point is 00:41:03 Yeah. This is when like Tripp gets pretty rough with him. Pretty like, you're going to fucking tell us what the fuck we want to know kind of thing. Because this is the second trade in as many days. Like, they're kind of tired of trading at this point. They just want the information. Tripp's ready to kick some ass and unfortunately it's a bad scene in front of the other miners. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:41:24 What Keswick ultimately comes up with is, if you can help me get the fuck out of here, maybe I will tell you. And they're getting ready to try to accommodate that desire of his. And they get a radio signal from the Enterprise that three warships are approaching this planet at high warp. They'll be here in two hours and they go to like leave the part of the mine that they're in and the door has been swung shut and locked. It's revealed that this was all a trick to get more miners for the mine.
Starting point is 00:41:59 Yeah, you get to check to make sure the doors lock from the outside or not. I think before going into this section and whoops. But what they didn't count on is that, uh, Jonathan Archer is one of the greatest jailbreak men in, uh, in this quadrant, right? I neglected to remember that. Yeah. That is a big part of his whole deal now. Part of his legend.
Starting point is 00:42:22 Yeah. On Enterprise, they get a message from the surface. It's the foreman, and he's telling to Paul that Archer and Shiptucker are going to be delayed, but it's fine. We're just doing the typical deionizing we got to do when we've got three cargo ships coming in for a landing, because that is what the cargo ships require before setting down. And I love how T'Pol sees right through the bullshit without betraying that she sees right through the bullshit.
Starting point is 00:42:50 This is great. Yeah. What about all the weaponry on board these cargo ships? And he's like, oh yeah, I mean, because the insulation that we mine here is a precious commodity, needs a lot of defending. Tell that to the people trying to get rid of it on the Paramount lot two weeks later. So once the FaceTime's over, T'Pol tells Reed, hey, you got to come up with a rescue plan and I'm going to give you a one hour deadline because those warships are two hours away.
Starting point is 00:43:19 You got me? So we get Archer, Trip and Kesswick crawling through a mile of 31 species shit, and coming out smelling like roses on the other side. I like how the shit glows. Yeah. Is that because of the different species? Like something about Zindi poops and Benzite poops interacts to create an exothermic reaction? Benzite poops interacts to create an exothermic reaction. I mean, if you're an alien species of a certain kind, you don't need a nightlight for a midnight poop, do you?
Starting point is 00:43:52 Because you're making it yourself. I imagine this picture. You're a decent algae. There's really a gallon of your feces. This is probably just like a network television thing, but the scene where Tripp has to get like chin deep in the sewage to pull the lever. That's tough. It was more tame than I felt like they should have gone, you know? Like,
Starting point is 00:44:10 make the water immediately around his mouth look way grosser. You've got lots of styrofoam, you know, that could be floating in that. Decidedly untame is Tripp not being the topmost person on a ladder, as everyone is dripping sewage onto the person below them. Like, he's getting it in all kinds of ways. Yeah, Tripp had a rough, a rough go on this trip. I mean, the people below Keswick, you're just gonna have pink eye after this, right?
Starting point is 00:44:37 You're gonna have pink eye. It's guaranteed. They, uh, so they start climbing up this ladder inside a plasma duct, and this is gonna be their way out. And we learned that there's, uh, so they start climbing up this ladder inside a plasma duct, and this is going to be their way out. And we learned that there's like service hatches every eight floors or something like that, but it's going to be a long climb. There's a very brief moment between Tripp and Archer, I feel like, where they're like,
Starting point is 00:44:57 how does Keswick know all this stuff about the baffles and the wrenches and the cycles and all this? Yeah. There is some suspicion growing at this point, I thought. And he knows that they don't ever run plasma through this duct, it's always through the other ducts. And he's always the first one up the ladder, which is just kind of gross for everyone that has to follow.
Starting point is 00:45:16 I mean, I know we've only gone up one ladder, but he is always the first one up the ladder. If that's going to be Keswick's thing, I trust him even less. Yeah. Oh, he's also bleeding from his finger injury. So he's probably, it's just, it's not just sewage. Yeah, that's going to sting. Oh man.
Starting point is 00:45:33 He had an open wound in the sewage. Yeah. He's going to have pink finger. Back on Enterprise, we're in the armory where T'Pol has told Reed that there's still no response from Archer and Trip, and Hayes is in there too. And there's a conversation between Hayes and Reed about how should we divide the labor W slash R slash T rescuing Archer and Trip.
Starting point is 00:46:00 And what they finally come down on is that the Mako team should be the ones going to the surface for the rescue because the Enterprise security team would probably be best at defending the ship were it to come right down to it. Only Reed wants to lead the Mako team on the surface and that's kind of the compromise that they arrive at. And once Hayes leaves, Reed confides a totally baffling opinion about him to DePaul, which goes something like, why does Hayes want to do something that makes the success of the mission the priority over whatever my undercooked idea is? Reed is like, I've worked with people like Hayes before and they suck.
Starting point is 00:46:47 They always want to do the right thing in the best way. And it's really irritating. Yeah. Fuck off, Reed. Like, just because you're the dumb one in the group, like, choose the best idea. His abilities being insulted seems to be a bigger problem for Reed than the captain and chief engineer are missing and might be killed by the
Starting point is 00:47:07 people on the planet surface. Can we all agree to just do the best thing? Regardless of whose idea it was. Fuck. Speaking of missing, the foreman gets a report that his new prisoners are missing. Great moment for the foreman too, because unlike a lot of dumb bad guys who would be like, send every team down into the chutes to find them. He's like, all right, just put a couple of guys by the shuttle pod and we'll get them there. I was like, that is a great plan. Yeah. That's exactly where they would be going.
Starting point is 00:47:42 That's how you get to be the foreman of a bunch of miners. Yeah. And also he's like, we're not going to blow up the shuttle pod. I want that thing. We can use that for hauling ore. Yeah. Got a lot of Styrofoam to take up to those ships in orbit. So yeah, another shuttle launches and this one is full of soldiers plus Reed and Mayweather. The idea being, I guess,
Starting point is 00:48:06 we're leaving Starfleet tactical people on the ship in case the ship is boarded by these warships that are inbound. We learned something about Keswick that I think is really important as he and Archer and Trip are scrabbling around the different ducks. We get ducks of so many sizes and shapes and smoothnesses in these scenes. Archer's like, why haven't you escaped before if you had all this knowledge that would come in handy for escaping? And Kessick's like, no one can breathe that air outside. It's fucking poison. You think I would even take a walk from a shuttle pod to the lobby area of this mining facility?
Starting point is 00:48:51 Not unless I was desperate, brother. You'd take 20 years off of your life doing that. He's like, the situation's only different right now because there's a shuttle pod waiting for us on the surface and I can hold my breath between the time I pop out of a hatch and we get into that thing. Yeah. And while they're having this conversation, the foreman knows exactly where they are.
Starting point is 00:49:10 Yeah. He sees that they're in that shaft and he's like, all right, well, we'll just turn the plasma on in that shaft. Yeah. So they're like, they're climbing up and Kessig is explaining about the five different kinds of Zindi and they hear those baffles start to close. They almost get to the fifth Zindi. I was like, I'm finally gonna learn about which one it is.
Starting point is 00:49:30 Nope. I'm never gonna know. I won't cease or desist cause we really think it's fair use. There's a brief debate about whether they should scramble to climb up or climb down from where they are, because they don't know exactly how far they are from the closest exit.
Starting point is 00:49:52 It might be behind you. This is the mystery box gambling theory, right? They know exactly where the baffle beneath them is, but they think that there's one up ahead, but they just don't know how far. So, they've got to puzzle out in a very short amount of time if it makes more sense to go forward or back. What did you make of this like crabs in a bucket moment where Trip and Kesic are like both trying to get through the door at the same time and Kesic is like being an asshole
Starting point is 00:50:24 about it and like making it harder for both of them to get through the door at the same time and Keswick is like being an asshole about it and like making it harder for both of them to get through the door. It seemed like both Keswick and Tripp were at fault for like shoving each other to get inside. Yeah, maybe a little bit. I didn't actually chalk it up as Keswick being any worse than he had been already,
Starting point is 00:50:42 but I think Tripp is consistently shitty to Kessick at all times in this episode. And so that didn't surprise me either. Very much. But Archer's there to like kind of break the tie cause he pulls them in at the same time. Yeah, and gets the door closed. They are safe.
Starting point is 00:50:59 They're safe for a half a second. I love the way the sequence plays out. They're like, woo, all right. And then like 20 people with racked shotguns aimed at them. Yeah. This is exactly where the guards expected them to come out. Yeah. And the foreman is here to twist to his wet sloppy mustache.
Starting point is 00:51:22 And he's like, you're not worth all the trouble that you're going to be if I keep you around as miners. So out to the surface you go. How about Kesett going chunk from Goonies in this scene? Like absolutely spilling his guts, absolutely giving them up. Oh, Gale, fuck. Really great.
Starting point is 00:51:43 I like that it doesn't matter. He still gets the rifle butt to the chin. Yeah. Seems like their goose is cooked, but then the commandos start rappelling in from somewhere on ropes. Say hello to the devil for me! And we get a great big firefight between the, like, highly trained military guys and the vein mask guards of the mine Kessick hides under the under the stairs
Starting point is 00:52:13 Well Everybody else is Shooting each other the military guys have like a have like a cattle prod device that they brought with them There's some some fun like hand-to-hand stuff with. The fight scenes great. A lot of compound sequences, a lot of individual skirmishes throughout in addition to the firefight itself. I thought it was really well done. Yeah. And a lot of getting the gun off of a guy that you just wrestled to the ground. I mean, if you're Archer and Trip, that is job one, is getting a weapon. Yeah. So they defeat all the guards and then like bangers start dropping on the mine itself.
Starting point is 00:52:51 And Archer and Keswick have to very hastily agree to a escape to the surface for coordinates trade. And they're about to leave for the shuttle, but Keswick gets hit. And there's like a sniper up in the smoke. He's got like a- That was the Foreman at the top. Oh, was that the Foreman? Yeah. He takes one to the face. Fuck. I didn't even realize that was the Foreman. Yeah. RSVP the Foreman. I love a sniper shot like we get here. Yeah. Archer and Shrip don't just leave Keswick's body.
Starting point is 00:53:26 They drag it to one of the shuttle pods and both pods make for orbit. And on Enterprise, they've got seven minutes until those inbound warships arrive. So they're cutting it pretty close. And that's why T'Pol tells the shuttles to dock simultaneously. And then they're off. So, Phlox visits Archer to report that their little Zindi buddy, Kesic, has shuffled loose this mortal coil. Did you say shoveled because he was a miner? Because that's pretty great if so.
Starting point is 00:53:59 Yeah. So, Archer is like talking shit about this guy post-mortem because he like wouldn't even give them the coordinates. But it turns out he did. He dictated the coordinates to the Zindi Homeworld for Archer, even though he was in great pain as he tried to do it. The energy of the scene is so great. It's like the family conspiring after the relative
Starting point is 00:54:24 that everyone hated died. Like, God, what an asshole. Probably a racist. Just terrible to us. A real piece of shit. Oh, we were left something in the will, you said. Well, uh- No, never speak ill of the dead, you know?
Starting point is 00:54:42 I guess we should go to the service. No, never speak ill of the dead, you know? I guess we should go to the service. Tripp has been treated for being covered in blue sludge. My nipples are so irritated by both the sludge and the sewage. Yeah. I've got eight different cases of pink nipple. You're never going to let that go, are you?
Starting point is 00:55:03 Yeah. Checking in with Reed. They made such a big deal about the no funeral service for Tripp's sister in the last time on. I thought it was gonna come up again in this scene. There are, you know people in your life that would be super sensitive about you giving a compliment to someone else. I love how this scene played out where Tripp was like, boy, working with the Mako types sure was interesting. They really have a lot of firepower. And Reed is like swallowing his tongue.
Starting point is 00:55:34 Like absolutely hating that Tripp would compliment another security professional in his presence. Like that's how thin-skinned he is. Such a little creep. Anyways, he goes into Six-Bay and asks Flocks for his sleepy time meds and Flocks obliges with a hypo spray to the neck and then is like, oh, you also got to go give this iPad to Ta-Pal. It will be a surprise to her that you're on your way. But yeah, there's like biological data in here that she needs to take a look at. And we know from the earlier scene, Dr. Flax isn't complying with HIPAA now that they're in the expanse. Like read it on your way, Tripp. Enjoy.
Starting point is 00:56:20 We're in international waters, baby. They can't catch me here. You know what's also turned inside out? HIPAA compliance. So the second he leaves, he radios to Paul about the fact that this was also a deception in terms of him medicating Tripp. There is no sedative. Tripp is the guy at the high school drinking party that was given like shake weed and he's like,
Starting point is 00:56:50 oh, I'm super high. I can't feel my face. Like that was oregano, dude. So yeah, what this was all to set up was getting to Paul out of her shirt because she's in her bedtime gear when Tripp shows up and then asks if he can stimulate her nodes, which of course requires the shirt to come off. And now that he's gotten her, she's going to get him.
Starting point is 00:57:21 Please disrobe. It's just a back robe. No one ever regrets what happens after a back robe, right? Yeah. She makes a big deal out of like, are you implying that this was somehow sexual? No, no, no, not at all. I was just... How could he have gotten that misapprehension of the situation? It's interesting how Tripp is both right and wrong about there being a deception,
Starting point is 00:57:50 but it's not seduction, right? Like, T'Pol admits that this was a charade and the sedative was a placebo and this is just a way to get him to work the Vulcan pressure points. Right. But the thing that works even more than the charade on him is Tripp wanting to reverse his reputation as being intransigent. Intransigent. Ankylosaur. See, I can't even say it.
Starting point is 00:58:17 Tripp knows what it means though. Yeah. And so that's the reason he goes through with it. It's almost more about reputation than it is about what it could possibly do for him. Don't be so intransigent, Trip. Dump him out. Seems like it's gonna work though. We sort of fade to black on that
Starting point is 00:58:34 and then we're showing up at the star that the Zindi planet orbits. And, uh-oh, this is not exactly what they were expecting. They were hoping for a planet with superweapon under construction in orbit. What they find is aftermath of destroyed planet. Yeah. And it was blown up a while ago. I love Archer articulating the moment.
Starting point is 00:59:00 He's like, that fucking guy gave us coordinates to, I guess, his planet, but if it was blown up 120 years ago, how did a planet from the past create a weapon in the future that then went back in time and attacked Earth for destroying the planet even more into the future than that? Is that how you puzzled it out? Like there were many past and future crossings on our way to arrive at this information. Yeah. I like how Archer doesn't have to get it. He's like, you know what?
Starting point is 00:59:35 I don't get it and I don't want to get it. My orders are to go ahead, go forward, deeper into the expanse. And somebody's like, beep, beep, beep, captain, more, uh, inside outie anomalies ahead. And he's like, don't give a shit. We're already on borrowed time anyways. And we cut back to the Zindi council convening about this. And, uh, they don't like the odds for the entrepreneur going through these distortion fields. But just in case, they've got insurance. The insect Zindi, specifically. Because they're
Starting point is 01:00:13 like, look, all y'all might be fine just watching this play out, but I'm not down to wait and see. I want to finish this weapon and I'm going to use it as soon as possible if it comes down to it. And that's the end of the episode. Did you like this episode of Star Trek Enterprise, Adam? Or as some people just call it, Enterprise. I can't pay. Couldn't fill late. Got no case. Tempting fate.
Starting point is 01:00:42 I teased this a little bit in the beginning, Ben, but I kind of wish this was season one, episode one of Enterprise. Wow. I think maybe mostly because of elements that I think Star Trek Puritans would probably dislike. Not just in this series, but like in new Star Trek series. I think the introduction and inclusion of the military on this mission and the tension between the military and the civilians on the ship sort of makes sense in a very first mission on the very first
Starting point is 01:01:20 starship kind of way. Sure. And it makes me wish that they were there the whole time. It makes me wish Archer were like this the whole time, a little more careful, a little more, I mean, a little more careful and a little more aggressive in some ways. Yeah. With a little better haircut. Like, this is the Archer I wish we've had for 30 episodes that we, that has taken so long to get.
Starting point is 01:01:46 Yeah. I am very intrigued by this whole story arc. I love how much danger we're in the entire episode. I love that that danger isn't resolved. I think this series has become very interesting to me starting now. How about you? Yeah. It feels like they've borrowed some of the best parts of Voyager to set this up.
Starting point is 01:02:06 Great call. Yeah. Without it feeling like warmed over Voyager stuff. It does a very interesting job of setting up what will be a very different type of season for Star Trek Enterprise. And I think it's a lot more successful in that than the previous episode was, which felt like it kind of ended on such an ambiguous note.
Starting point is 01:02:30 A couple of missteps, like I really do think that they missed an opportunity to make the Zindi a little bit more of a mystery at the beginning. I agree with you on that. Make it a revelation instead of the bookend. Yeah. Although, like, thinking about that, like, I mean, there have been a couple of seasons of Discovery more recently where they set up the big bad as a total mystery alien at the beginning. And it felt like annoying by episode five that
Starting point is 01:03:00 you're just like, all right, let's just fucking figure out who it is and then we'll go find them and stop their galaxy destroying evil plan or whatever. Right. Maybe it's good hygiene to just get that out of the way and let us get to know these people. Because I think you're right, like they aren't just villainous. Like they believe that they are acting in self-defense and so does Enterprise and that's kind of
Starting point is 01:03:22 an interesting conflict. And you know, any episode where they get they're acting in self-defense and so does enterprise. And that's kind of an interesting conflict. And you know, any episode where they get to Paul out of her shirt, you got to love, right? I don't know, man. I think if we're setting up a romantic relationship between to Paul and Tripp Tucker, I mean, I remember college, the back rub was an entry point into a relationship a lot of times. So that seemed familiar to me.
Starting point is 01:03:54 I neither was asked to give, nor did I receive any back rubs in college. Yeah, back rubs very popular at the college I went to. Almost as popular as a priority one message on our shows, Ben. You want to go see if those lead to something? Let's do it. Priority one message from Starfleet coming in on Secure Channel. Need a supplemental income. Supplemental income?
Starting point is 01:04:22 Supplemental. Supplemental. Yeah, it's extra. By the interest alone, could be enough to buy this ship. Ben we've got a promotional priority one message here. And here's how that goes. Captain Rios showed us soccer will be popular in a Star Trek future. Oh yeah.
Starting point is 01:04:42 So come support a fellow FOD's other passion this summer. Real Central New Jersey Soccer invites all FODs to Sci-Fi Night on Wednesday June 28th 7 p.m. at Rider University in Lawrenceville, New Jersey. Whoa. Use discount code FOD online or come June 28th and tell the ticket takers you know Captain DeSoto to get five dollar tickets. Wow. Kids games, food truck, beer garden, and ice cream will be available at this family and
Starting point is 01:05:16 nerd friendly evening. Get tickets at realcentralnj.soccer. Ben, did you know you could get a URL in.soccer? I feel stupid that we don't own GreatestTrack.Soccer. Ira Jersey knows you can, and that's who sent this promotional P1. So if you're in New Jersey or an enormous soccer fan, not in New Jersey, you should hang out and watch soccer with a bunch of FODs Yeah, so that's June 28th
Starting point is 01:05:49 Sci-fi night supporting real central New Jersey soccer Yeah, thanks, Ira Jersey an OG FOD who made us soccer scarves For for the show years and years ago Pretty awesome. Yeah, I have mine on my wall. It's just soccer scarves for the show years and years ago. Pretty awesome. Yeah. I have mine on my wall.
Starting point is 01:06:08 It's just very high up. Our next P1 here is from Erica and it's to Ian. Goes like this. Hi, pumpkin. Remember that Halloween you went as Locutus and I went as Ensign Roe? We were the coolest nerds at Yorkship Elementary. Instead of getting you Trek memorabilia for the 30th year in a row, I decided to mix it
Starting point is 01:06:34 up and get you a message on this a little bit embarrassing podcast. Thank you for being the best little brother. I love you. Man, little brother Locutus is, puts the cute in Locutus. Let's just put it that way. I've got to see pictures of what an elementary school aged kid dressed as Locutus looks like.
Starting point is 01:07:03 That kid would get the most candy on my doorstep for Halloween. Oh man, yeah. Expend all remaining candy on that bucket. I've got a hard time imagining what a little kid would look like done up in that way. Like, did you shave your head? Did you have the laser? How far did you go? I'd like to know more about this costume.
Starting point is 01:07:22 Yeah, this rules. And you too Erica Did you do the row with earring? Yeah without earring row having taken the jacket off and put on Another person in the town for warmth. Yeah the upper warmth to a refugee child Did you already have the haircut or did you go down to the salon and ask for a fuck ass bob so that you could really sell ensign roe? More questions than answers at this point. Hopefully we get a follow up there.
Starting point is 01:07:52 Then our last message is from a time traveler from 2017 and it is to Razen Plevier. Whoa! This message goes like this. I'm a new listener working my way through the old episodes. I'm currently in August of 2017 and loving the P1s from Raz and Plavim. Thanks for all the laughs. In the spirit of the show, I have not done any research.
Starting point is 01:08:19 So if it turns out that in the past eight years you discovered that they were serial killers, I apologize. Don't sweat it time traveler from 2017 as far as we know. I want to say we don't know that yet still. We haven't found out since then. Yeah. You know I mean it wouldn't surprise me. I think we all have it in us. Oh God you think you think we all have it in us Yeah, your most terrifying thing you've ever said show Adam We don't know it yet. Well, if you'd like to you know offer some kind of confession or just wish somebody a happy birthday, it's MaximumFun.org slash Jumbo trying to get yourself a P1 on the show.
Starting point is 01:09:13 Hey, Ben. Oh, what's that, Adam? Did you find yourself a drunk Shimoda this episode? I think I'm going to give it to Hayes for the I don't think about you at all-ness of his interactions with Reed. Major Hayes is somebody that Reed has interpreted to be insulting him, second guessing his capabilities, big dogging him at every turn. I don't get the sense that Major Hayes is thinking about Reed at all.
Starting point is 01:09:46 Yeah. Reed is having a very personal experience in his own mind. He's doing that thing where he's having the conversation he imagines he would have inside of his own head. And Hayes is oblivious to all of it. Yeah, that's a good call. How about yourself? Did you find a drunk Shimoda in this episode? I think mine's a good call. How about yourself? Did you find a drunk Shimoda in this episode?
Starting point is 01:10:05 I think mine's going to be Dr. Flax. Okay. I was not expecting him to be the trickster that he was in this episode. And I think it is evidence of just how badly Tripp is doing medically. I think we're getting the sense that he's tormented by his dreams and he's obviously in a ton of grief about his sister. But for a medical professional to take the actions that he does this episode is telling us more than we're being shown about just how down and maybe endangered Tripp is due to his sleep deprivation. So yeah, I'm gonna make Dr. Flax my drunk Shimoda for that. Yeah.
Starting point is 01:10:46 He's kind of a puppet master here of a couple of characters. Maybe leave Trip on the ship for this mission, you know? Yeah, kind of a loose cannon when he confronts his Indy. Yeah, you know what I find really relaxing is having sewage and blood drip on me from up a ventilation shaft. You think about how close this episode came to being a gruel episode?
Starting point is 01:11:11 I couldn't believe that there was no gruel. Once you get taken as a slave for a mining planet, you know the gruel's on offer. As soon as that happens. The gruel is next step. But you know what I also realized is that like Tripp shows up in Flax's office and goes like, I'm going to need something to help me get to sleep later. And then they go down, get abducted and break out of prison. And he like, you know, crawls through sewage, crawls up a plasma vent, gets in a huge firefight, still makes his appointment at 10 PM to show back up in back up in Six-Bay, get his sleeping pill.
Starting point is 01:11:45 I thought the same thing. What a day they had. I mean, could you blame anyone who went on that mission for not being able to sleep very well? Like the adrenaline is coursing through his body after that. Come on, Flocks, of all days, I think you can give him a sleeping pill today. Yeah, yeah.
Starting point is 01:12:03 Way to go, Dr. Flocks, with staying the course on his plan. Amazing. Faith of the fart. Well, let's talk about whether next week's episode will be amazing. And of course it'll be season three, episode two, Anomaly Enterprise starts experiencing effects of the spatial distortions pervading the Delphic expanse
Starting point is 01:12:28 and falls victim to predatory aliens. I like the sound of this. Yeah. This is in keeping with your Star Trek Voyager observation. Yeah. Because it felt for a time on that show in the Delta Quadrant, Voyager was just constantly on the run. Totally.
Starting point is 01:12:47 Also on the run is our runabout, Ben, because at gach.biz slash game, that's where we keep the game of butt holes. The World of Riker, quantum leap, and where we learn how we will experience the recap of the next episode. Wow. You're required to of the next episode. Wow. You're required to learn as you play.
Starting point is 01:13:07 Roll. Square 60 is where we are at the moment after a roll of this die. Anything can happen. And it has kicked us down exactly 20 squares. Okay. To square 40. Chula!
Starting point is 01:13:23 Did I win? Hardly. It is a regular old episode for you and me. Sounds good to me. Yeah. I am excited about it and I'm just excited about all of the friends of DeSoto who support the show, you know? It's the whole reason we're able to do this.
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Starting point is 01:14:38 to put up on those, and enhance the experience of being a friend of DeSoto, I would say. I want to thank Benjamin R. Harrison for doing the show. You aren't thanked enough, Ben. I mean, as one of the hosts of this show. I've always said that going through an entire episode with my foot feeling the way it does, I feel like I deserve it.
Starting point is 01:14:59 I wasn't going to say it, but it does seem like very attention-getting behavior to start injuring yourself, so that I start recognizing the contributions you make yeah to the recording of this show So so there it is Ben finally. It's more like you know a stand-up comedian will go take a premise walk and I can't because I can't do that small children at home. You know yeah, I gotta come up with all my premises within a sub-thousand square foot domicile. Yours is a premise injury, isn't it? But you know what, Adam?
Starting point is 01:15:33 You're here too and we appreciate your contributions almost as much. And with that, we'll be back at you next week with another great episode of Star Trek Enterprise and an episode of the greatest generation, that, uh, boy we're trying to keep our coffee on the on the desk. You know what, speaking of being turned inside out, isn't that what the Predator does to people? Oh yeah, cuz he's got to get their skulls for his, uh, his trophy chest. Is that what this is all about? Maybe it isn't the Expananse, maybe it's a predator. Maybe it's a predator. He'll turn the inside out.
Starting point is 01:16:09 Make it show. Captain Jean-Luc Picard of the U.S.S.S. Enterprise. Captain Jean-Luc Picard of the U.S.S.S. Enterprise. Make it show. Make it show. Jean-Luc Picard of the Piccata, Piccata.

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