The Greatest Generation - Pins & Limp Thread (DS9 S1E17)

Episode Date: February 5, 2018

When a Klingon’s dying breath is to proclaim victory, the crew get dramatic about it. But while Odo becomes even more perplexed than normal about his colleague’s behavior, they’re cutting the phone lines and reenacting the death throes of a dying civilization. Should colleges and universities divest in Valeria? Is O’Brien going to have to get used to doing it in front of other people? Where is Quark in the cum hierarchy? It’s the episode where we go “full tube” to preserve our privacy.

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My favorite serves, friction sure. By two guys who were doing memes from three years ago, I'm Adam Pranica. I'm Ben Harrison. I think that meme is from like seven years ago. Yeah. No kidding. We're still talking about hot dogs hitting faces and in three office cubicle guys. And these parts of the podcast world, so welcome. If you've, if you've been

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is the only part you wanna sing in Africa. Yeah, who knows what is even meant by, let's take some time to do the things we never had, that one part of hotducks hitting face that gif? I think that's probably probably sex stuff, right? Yeah, probably. Ben, I got a really fun voicemail message and I thought I might play it for you. Oh really? I would love to hear a fun voice mail message. Alright, I'm going to see if I can make this work. I feel like Mitch from Doe Boys. I feel like Mitch from Doe Boys. I feel like Mitch from Doe Boys. I feel like Mitch from Doe Boys. I feel like Mitch from Doe Boys. I feel like Mitch from Doe Boys. I feel like Mitch from Doe Boys. I feel like Mitch from Doe Boys. I feel like Mitch from Doe Boys. I feel like Mitch from Doe Boys. I feel like Mitch from Doe Boys. I feel like Mitch from Doe Boys. I feel like Mitch from Doe Boys. I feel like Mitch from Doe Boys. I feel like Mitch from Doe Boys. I feel like Mitch from Doe Boys. I feel like Mitch from Doe Boys. I feel like Mitch from Doe Boys. I feel like Mitch from Doe Boys. I feel like Mitch from Doe Boys. I feel like Mitch from Doe Boys. I feel like Mitch from Doe Boys. I feel like Mitch from Doe Boys. I feel like Mitch from Doe Boys. I feel like Mitch from Doe Boys. I feel like Mitch from Doe Boys. I feel like Mitch from Doe Boys. I feel like Mitch from Doe Boys. I feel like Mitch from Doe Boys. I feel like Mitch from Doe Boys. I feel like Mitch from Doe Boys. I feel like Mitch from Doe Boys. I feel like Mitch from Doe Boys. I feel like Mitch from Doe Boys. I feel like Mitch from Doe Boys. I feel like Mitch from Doe Boys. I feel like Mitch from Doe. I feel like Mitch from Doe Boys. I feel like Mitch from Doe. I feel like Mitch from Doe. I feel like Mitch from Doe Boys. I feel like Mitch from Doe Boys. I feel like Mitch from Doe Boys. I feel like Mitch from Doe Boys. I feel like Mitch from Do because we got a package in today for buck 263. But the name on there is Jim Shimoda.

We weren't sure if you knew who that was. If that was something that is supposed to be for you, otherwise we'll just return to send her. And it says you could give us a call back, that would be great. Could you hear any of, that would be great. Uh... Ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha I'm receiving a code 47. Verify, it is code 47, sir. Starfleet emergency frequency. Captains eyes only. Ben, on the top of the pile, we got a postcard from Friend of the Podcast and Kielzer.

Eeeh! She sent us a coconut and visor postcard that looks hand drawn. That says Greetings from Ryza. Oh. Postcard says this, hello from the greatest gen con at C 2018, where we said to go go no-nos, Levar Burton read us bedtime stories, Brent Spiner serenaded us,

and Frakes judged a chair mounting contest. Q said hi to me, I got to try Kalar Loaf from John Piladen. Wow. And I even found a cruzum Zadi. Hey! L-L-A-P and Killsr. Go and. And you're the greatest.

And at Max von Kon East showed us her plans to create a Dr. Crusher uniform. She's one of our craftiest viewers and then in the time between Max von Kahnist and the crews, she made that uniform. Post for pictures with it, with a bunch of star Trek celebrities and posted a bunch of them on Twitter and Facebook. Like really cool stuff, it turned out great. Oh yeah! I got a letter here from JoL from Melbourne, Florida. Looks like we got a bifold card with a nice, a nice, a nice uh... a nice swampy scene in like a painted swamp scene.

This is, I guess, what passes for holiday cards from Florida. Inside is written Adam and Ben, season's greetings from sunny Florida. As it is that festive time of year, I thought I'd send you guys some Shimoda worthy cards from the 1991-25th anniversary trading card set and my cheers to the flanness crew in Starfleet. TGG has truly been the gift that keeps on giving

and I've met many new friends, due to your excellent work. It was a pleasure to meet you in DC, Mary Christmas. From Joe. Cool. Thank you. And he said to some fun cards as well. Thanks, Joe. Ben, our next package is a tube.

It is two Jim Shimoda. It's like a dildo length tube, or is it more of like a poster length tube? It's a bazooka-sized tube. Oh, man. It's really big. One of the big ones. I hope it's not actually bazooka actual. Alright, it is open. It is stuffed with a rolled up piece of paper that is taped shut. I'm unrolling it. This is like the heraldo opening up the safe.

It is a painting of Darth Vader on a unicorn wearing roller skates and they are and they are like flying over a field of tulips. Oh Man, oh this guy emailed us letter and clothes just from Alex Gross Dear Adam and Ben. I've been a viewer of your pod for over a year now. As other viewers have said before, it's very nice to spend an hour not worrying about nuclear holocaust. More than x-

But instead enjoying your take on what has always been one of my favorite shows. Although I never really got into DS9, I still love hearing you guys discuss it and it's going to someday Perhaps maybe almost make me want to watch it And close as a little thank you gift although Darth Vader on a unicorn has nothing to do with Trek I thought you might still enjoy it and we do Alex. Thanks so much, man If you want to see Alex's work, you've got Alex gross.com his work. We got Alex Gross.com, he's a really talented painter and has a lot of Darth Vader themed work on display. Some real fun stuff. It is really beautiful. Yeah, I'm jealous of how much talent this dude has. He's like, he kicks ass. Oh, we've got a letter here from Robert L. We met him at our San Francisco sketchfest show.

Yeah, Robert and Hope of JL Pipes the Dog. That was right. Who almost snapped your nose off with her biting-ness. Whoa, yeah, that is one thing that we didn't share on the last episode. When we were talking about the memories of sketchfest, I got in real close to JL pipes and JL pipes did not like it at all. Well, JL pipes was overwhelmed by the throng of people in that room, I think. It wouldn't have been pipes as far if pipes had bit me, but Robert and Hope are such

nice people that I know they would have felt awful about it and I would have felt awful about them feeling awful. So I'm glad it didn't happen. Well, you probably need that nose too. Look at this nose, you think I need it? You think I need even 40% of it? Ben Robert has enclosed a James Daren CD and unopened still in the rapper James Daren CD. Letter says I thought I'd send you guys a little light listening to prepare you for later seasons of DS9 and as a reminder that the best is yet to come.

So enjoy the cruning of Vic Fontaine, James Daren I guess, but to me he'll always be Jean-Luc Amin Vick as you sip a rack of Gino Oh, and since I it was mentioned on the episode I viewed this morning go ahead and tell people who accused you of virtue signaling or whatever to go stuff it Thanks for always putting a smile on my face and for creating not just the best Star Trek pot out there But also the best Star Trek community out there. Oh Keep up the great work and I hope you enjoy the music. Thanks Robert. The community building is something that we can take very little credit for.

That was something that the viewers did themselves, and they did a great job. Yeah, I defer all responsibility back onto the viewers for that and it's probably gonna be the thing that outlasts us and the show and anyone's memory of it. I hope so. It's a great group of people. Really really sweet, funny, creative and talented people and we're lucky to even have a small part in it. Very true. I mean that they are what make the after-show hang so special. Yeah. Last letter bin comes from Herbie Spicy, care of the warm honey bosom. All the way from Calgary, Alberta. This is a this is a return address familiar to me from a from a P1 we do it not too long ago. Yeah. Oh, if your name was Herb, would you go by Herb? You're gonna want to take those opportunities as they present themselves I think. That here Ben is a fight poster in the boxing vernacular.

It is you versus me. Friends of DeSoto presents our Ben and Adam fighting again. And then two pictures of us found on the internet. Oh no. Benjamin R. Harrison versus Adam Pranica every Monday forever That's great Good times Yeah, that's a Marcus of Queensbury rules Adam so nothing below the belt Yeah, I won't walk son of that package if you don't walk son of mine

Thanks, Herbie Spaisy Thank you everybody I sure do love opening up the mail. Yeah, if you'd like to get in touch here, send us something, just send an email to drunksimoda at gmail.com and we'll we'll talk that over with you. Make sure you address those packages to either Benjamin or myself as any other aliases tend to confuse the good people who work at the PO box. Spot, so thanks. And I'm should we discuss some app?

I'm ready, are you ready? Fucking A! Alright, let's do it. Let's go ahead and get on into Deep Space 9, Season 1, Episode 17. Dramatis Persona. That can only mean multiple dramas, right? Like Persona is the plural of Persona? Yeah, I guess that's it. Is that a Greek plural or something like that?

Oh yeah. I tried a Greek plural one time in college, not for me. I'm reserving judgment because I haven't done it twice. Yeah, man, it just got bad the first time. I guess I should go for it again, but I have to have my wife's permission. You don't want to have the brown persona if that gets passed around. Major Kira is like asking for permission to fuck up the program of an alien ship that's trying to dock at deep space nine because they are, she suspects, carrying weapons grade dolomite.

Dolomite's not in here. Don't give us any of that bullshit baby. We know he's here. I'm just assuming that that means Rudy Ray Moore is a passenger on the ship. Kira straight-up hates these valarians. Yeah. And it's because they were responsible for a lot of the arms smuggling to the cardacians during the war. Not even smuggling during the war. They were just like in business with the cardacians and selling the cardacians things that

the cardacians were using to make life miserable for the Bedurans. She knows as much as anyone that when you come into contact with something Valerian, you're gonna wanna make sure you got a lot of protection. When I was in college, we had a big campaign to divest in Valeria because of their complicity with Kardashian war crimes. Yeah. Valeria 2012.

Doing business with the Valerians makes you complete it with the crimes of the Kardashians. I guess Vichy French Guy probably would be more on the side of the Kardashians though. So, I don't know. I retract that dumb interjection. You would have been fun if Vichy French guy was was in the movie theater for Valarion and the city of a thousand planets movie. Let's let's retcon that story and make that the truth. Yeah yeah yeah. I didn't see that movie so I don't know what he would have been yelling but uh... I don't I don't know anyone who did. This film is not sexy enough!

Kera Delevene is going to be a great great big star! The mid-riff of women's shirts should not be on! They should come right off! I like this movie the first time I saw it! When it was Zipith elements I wonder how good the installation is in both of our houses like do you think people are just walking by hearing us? Scream unintelligible French accent and bullshit It's strange times of day

Glad we do the show in the daytime must be why my mailman always gives me a weird look when he, yeah. We did this weird setup where to drop the mail off, the mailman comes up the steps and can basically like look into the living room where I am often sitting on the couch. Oh, no. Because he comes and drops the mail at like 545. So I've usually like called it a day. And I'll just be like,.45, so I've usually called it a day, and I'll just be like, you know,

sit and watch in an episode of television or something waiting for the wife to come home. That's prime cranking a time right there. I know. Yeah, I've had to really adjust everything about my schedule. Ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha It's a lot like taking a shit. Like you want to do it at the same time of day for optimum release. Getting a habit. God, with how crazy your gate is,

I'm surprised you don't have a mailbox that's outside of it. I know. It's one of the reasons that the gate is a problem. Like we asked for the landlord to change the latch and put a lock on it and she couldn't do it because the mailboxes for our unit and the one next to us are inside the gate I thought for sure like when I was a little kid and tubes at banks were a thing that that would be how our male eventually got to us and here we are like 25 30 years later. There's no tubes taking our mail to S.

It's still a guy who stopped the advance of the technology of pneumatics. Everything should be sent by vacuum tube. No! No! By not going full tube, you're just asking for a mailman to see you crank it. Ha-ha-ha-ha.

It's the butterfly effect. You failed to make that decision 30 years ago. You see, Ruldy, as you age into your manhood, you've got to get yourself on a schedule so that when you're punching your meat, the mailman doesn't come up the stairs and see you jerking it off. Theo! A man can occasionally feel a sense of shame when he's punching the clown. What I like to do is put the bill in my own drink. That way, I forget about my sense of shame in my refractory period That way I just gently fall asleep on my couch

Theo Butting Felicia Rashad Oh God, we're gonna get so many letters. Yeah. But we're putting off the inevitable bin. Cisco talks Kira into letting these Valarians land and do their thing and he says, hey listen, why don't we try it my way? Where we don't act like assholes to them from jump,

but if we find out that they're up to something bad, we can make a problem for them then. And there's lots of ways we can go about finding out what they're up to. Yeah, I mean, Cisco's smart. He's like, it would be best if we just lay back in the cut and watch the Valariansians make a mistake Like you don't have to go you don't have to go locking them to the docking ring and Throwing your weight around on board that ship like they haven't done anything wrong yet and because we're Federation We get to do things by the book. Yeah, innocent until proven guilty etc etc

And I thought it was cool that Kira to do things by the book. Yeah, innocent until proven guilty, et cetera, et cetera. And I thought it was cool that Kira saw the logic in this. Like, she's so wired to just like ride hard for the opinion she comes in with. I feel like this is an interesting bit of character development that she's starting to kind of see the benefit of working with her, her federation counterparts and not at cross purposes with them.

We'll try it your way. Good. There's something basically insubordinate about using the term, we'll do it your way this time though, that she says to Cisco that sort of made me reflexively win't like, ooh, you really do think you're an equal on the station. Like, I don't know that I could ever say that to an authority figure and not have bad things visited upon me. If I ever said that to my wife, for example, no kidding. Yeah shit. Yeah. Bad times. Go to cut, to cut, to cut, go to cut. So. One of my favorite things in Star Trek happens not long after this, they go out into Ops and

the wormhole opens up and reveals a cling on ship, a big one, that then almost immediately explodes. Jop's a huge banger on the station. They don't have time to put up shields or anything like they know what this ship is It stopped at the station on its way into the wormhole but it's back super early and the the fact that it is That is coming back as a surprise in fact that it's blowing up as a surprise, and just after it blows, they detect that a transporter signal is coming into ops, and O'Brien is like trying to clean it up.

He's like, stand aside, I'm an X-transporter chief. Yeah, and I like that he's like struggling with it a bit and DAX like transporters planes a bit to him. Something such a freeing with the rematerialization process. Lock onto with our transporters signal. Try boosting the annular containment field. Yeah, that was nice. He's like, I know. This used to be all I did.

I'm not used to doing it in front of other people. Like he turns, he turns us back to the rest of ops and like you could see a shoulder's working. Yeah. Just give me a minute. I watched a like a video on the New York Times website one time about Alice Waters going to a farmer's market in New York and she's like, she's like touching, you know, root of big as there's something and the person like touching, you know, root of bigas or something, and the person working at the stand says,

oh, those are organic root of bigas, and she goes, I know, I know. Like Alice Waters could not, could not brook somebody assuming that she didn't know what she was holding if it was a food thing. This is kind of how Brian reacts to, to DAX's suggestion. He's like, I'm already doing that, okay.

Every time someone transports themselves during an exploding ship incident, I always expect like wet red mist to be the thing that reaches the destination, you know? If that would be such a great effect if they could like, if they could get it to where the sparkly lights disappear and just like buckets of gore, splatter all over.

Then there's one show that could pull that off right now and it's Star Trek Discovery. That's true, yeah. Still got a couple episodes this season. They could go for it. So they get this guy on board and he is a critically wounded Klingon person. It's not in great shape and they're like, they're trying to stabilize them, trying to get medical attention to him.

Everybody is up and up. Like the whole gang is here. And this guy, he basically gets one word out he says victory and and then shuffle loose this mortal coil. Pretty great last word Ben. Yeah. Have you thought about what your last word will be? Probably freedom. As I'm drawn and quartered, blue paint all over my face. I feel like my last word will be God damn it. Well, yeah, because I can have a hyphenate, right?

Yeah. Can I get a whole phrase at him? Can I have it be give me a break? Yes. Yeah, that could be yours. That's entered my vernacular because of you, by the way. You said that to me. You said that to me one time and I was like, is give me a break such an unusual thing to say?

I think it is. I mean, for certain people, I had never thought to say that. Yeah. Maybe it's an East Coast thing. Maybe I picked it up in my time in New York. Yeah, when you're from Seattle, you just stew silently. Yeah, it's a different mode of life. You're probably coming off as a real assult everybody around you now.

You don't need to tell me that. Oh, I know. The thought is floated that maybe the mission recorder survived the explosion of this ship. Yeah they got to send a runabout out there for it. Got to send a runabout. It's a good idea. O'Brien and Dax are assigned to that. Dax like is a little distracted and forgets to go with O'Brien to the runabout. Lieutenant. Yes. You coming? Adam, I had this question. If the mission recorder survived the explosion, why not make the whole ship out of whatever you make the mission recorder? Oh, you are a delight, Benjamin. I'll be here all week. Tip your bartender.

I am looking forward to your 90 second Netflix comedy special. You know, in a long enough timeline, everyone's gonna have one, Ben. Yeah. I feel like that would be a good show. If Netflix had a TV series that was 90 second comedy specials, I feel like everyone has a tight 90, right? The unfunniest people ever can make something 90 seconds.

They know like a street joke or whatever. Yeah, it dozens. Yeah. Yeah. It'd be interesting. Wouldn't that be interesting to just put on and just zone out too? We should be television producers. It's saying this from the start.

I've been saying it from the start. We have good ideas. Somebody in Hollywood, please. I keep going to one meeting only. Someone's going to give you more meeting call backspin. Yeah. I think part of the problem with my two Hollywood meetings that I've ever had in my entire life is that they asked me to like send them something and I just didn't because I didn't think that the idea was good enough. Oh man, that that self-sensorship kills the creative heart.

It does, but I sure know what that's like. Yeah, but it's also like, you know, like, if I walk away from a meeting with somebody and they say like, hey, that's like a great idea. Send me like a little write up of that. The entire drive home is me going, do I really want to like devote a whole bunch of emotional energy to the idea

of like, I'm gonna get a TV show. I'm gonna make a television show. I'm gonna make a television show. Like, what is the upside? Like, worst case scenario, I like convince myself it's gonna happen and then, like, what is, what probably happens is them pulling the plug at some totally unexpected point and me being emotionally devastated.

The best case scenario is I get stuck having to do a shit ton of work and not knowing what I'm doing. Ask any successful podcaster what they're in it for and they'll tell you you're in it to avoid real work. That's the whole reason we're here. Yeah. So, that's the... I should really probably stop even putting myself in for these meetings, stop wasting everybody's fucking time. They're rich and powerful and have real shit to do. I don't know, man. The bottled water is nice.

Yeah, that is true. Good bottled water at those things. You know that feeling of being unable to creatively launch is something that, like whenever I get the mail from our viewers, totally reverses because there's something in them that makes them make things and then those things get sent to us, that is totally inspiring, because there is something about that that does not exist in me personally. Like you and I have talked about this a couple of times about like our live shows, like we wouldn't necessarily hang out after and go up and shake the hand of somebody who's

work we really like, but when people do it for us, it's like the nicest, sweetest thing in the whole wide world. It's like, it is such a thrill to like get to meet all of the people that came out to the show afterwards. I think it makes me, it makes me a better person to feel that kind of empathy, like I know how hard it is to come up to a person in that moment and I think it has made me aware in a way that I was not before to what that's like. And hopefully it means that it's a good hang for anyone who does. Yeah. That's what I'm trying to make it.

I mean, unless they, unless they sick their attack, y'all got me. I think all parties will be happy. Come to a foreign, come to a foreign, come to a foreign, come to a foreign, come to a foreign, come to a foreign, come to a foreign, come to a foreign, come to a foreign, come to a foreign, come to a foreign, come to a foreign, come to a foreign, come to a foreign, come to a foreign, come to a foreign, come to a foreign, come to a foreign, come to a foreign, come to a foreign, come to a foreign, come to a foreign, come to a foreign, come to a foreign, come to a foreign, come to a foreign, come to a foreign, come to a foreign, come to a foreign, I'm not be guard, I'm not be guard, I'm not be guard, I'm not be guard. Exactly.

DAX's little moment of forgetfulness is kind of the first indication that we get that something weird is going on. But the way the episode proceeds is like, Odo gets put in charge of like asking around the station about like who these Klingons were, did anything seem weird about them to other people on the station before they left, like why, why did the ship us blow, like what can we, look and we find out from what happened before they left, and so he starts like doing some research, he goes down to Quark's bar,

like Threatens Quark with pulling a work crew off of scrubbing the comb out of one of the hollow suites. Tom Cruise 7. Yeah, he says like, oh, there's actually some comb in one of my cells. I could put in a priority request for those guys and they would have to come clean my come first. And the quirk is like, all right, all right.

There's a real cum hierarchy here. Yeah. And it turns out that these glingons had a specific, like they were supposed to be on a biological survey of the game quadrant, but they confessed to people while they were on board the space station that they were heading through the wormhole to go get something that they thought would be an awesome weapon that would help them bring the enemies of the Klingon Empire to their knees or whatever.

Unsurprisingly, mission logs stored aboard Klingon ships are kept on VHS tape. That have then been like pulled out from the tape and then rewound with your fingers. Yeah, yeah, Chief O'Brien replicated a, like a black wingwing palimino pencil and wound the tape back up. Yeah, because the footage here is pretty rugged. They're not getting a bunch out of it. Yeah, somebody goes down under the view screen and opts and tries to turn the little tracking wheel, clean it up a little bit. Yeah.

But what the computer says that that tracking wheel is going work, but it's gonna take some time And then the crew starts to kind of fracture into these weird factions there is a lot of intrigue a lot of like You know one character going up to another and saying like who said are you on are you on Kira's side or on Cisco's side and being like You know the other character being like well, which said are you on you know like You know, the other character being like, well, which is better you on, you know? Like, O'Brien is like a thousand percent team Cisco and really trying to pin DAX down on which team she's on. And it's pretty obvious that she is lying to him about

where her loyalty lies when she says that she's been friends with Cisco for such a long time that of course she's Team Cisco. You've become quite friendly with Major Kira. Haven't you? Have I? I was shocked to, you know, how normally in the trope of viral infection and Star Trek,

you know, things can seem pretty gradual at first before ramping up to their climax. People fairly early on are aggressive. Like Kalamini is full--scale, pretty much from jump. Yeah, it hits them all at once. Yeah. And it's true to the title, everybody is acting so dramatic! It's true I've slapped the boards in my youth,

but I never really had it in my blood, and that's what socialism, the theatrical zeal in the veil. It's really,ism is, it's a theatrical deal in the way. It's really, like, it isn't an A, B, and a C story. What it is is like, it's people against specific people. There's like a very clear, kira versus sisco thing. There's obriand versus kira. And then there's like, sort of secondary personality things going going on like Dax's bubbly forgetfulness

and then sort of the danger of what a bored Cisco would entail as the story goes on. Yeah, Cisco's affect is very like heavy lies the Emperor's crown kind of deal. And he's like a little distracted and building a clock, but every so often O'Brien will like coax like a vengeful and vindictive side out of him. Yeah. Yeah. Every book books goes full 10 out of 10 on a yell at him later on the episode, which was really surprising and fun. Yeah. But the one character that was in Ops that has lines, there are people in ops that don't have lines that appear to not have anything to do with this storyline, but the one character that was in ops that that is not affected by this whole situation is Odo. He is just kind of baffled at how weird everybody is acting. And he's like, he's trying

to get his mind around it. And meanwhile, Kira is like trying to get dicks onto her side. In my opinion, you are the most valuable officer on this station. It's a really weird situation. And Odo doesn't have like a ton of tools at his disposal to deal with this because he's not like a scientist. He doesn't, you know, it's a little, in some ways, we're behind you in the episode where Worf is transporting in time, or into different versions of reality, like it's like the character that least has a has a toolkit for dealing with it on the ship. Odo's inquisitive nature is basically the only tool in his toolbox for this, but like he can't do science.

Tell me about it. Which is why he needs Bishir later on. Right. To help to help solve this mystery. beads this year later on, to help solve this mystery. One question I have for you is this is essentially a body snatchers type story, but it never goes into horror. Like, I never feel that sense of fear from, you know, these are people that we are supposed to know

and like for the first 17 episodes and now, something's taken control. Like it seems so political that it never goes into horror in a way that the story is usually told. Well, there's like one moment of that and it's after putting the screws to quirk, Odo is leaving the bar and his head gets opened like a book. But like they would ever explain what that was.

It seemed to me as though the spirit of the thing was attempting to enter him and it ran into the liquid. Like, it looked like he was having a stroke except both sides of his face were moving symmetrically. Yeah. Not a nice look. I love the look of horror that Quark has in this scene though. Like that seems real. Yeah.

Like that's my- He's kinda grossed out. Like that's my nemesis, but also the other side of the coin that I am on. Right. I don't know if it's about it, that's an appeal. A bucket of pay. Mr. Bucket, I have to reverse back to my name. Stay cool. Oh, I don't use the bucket anymore.

When Oto wakes up in 6 Bay, it's kind of when the foundation of his alliance with Julian Bashir is forged. But it's a weird scene because he wakes up and he says, oh, I don't remember anything. Which is like, period or like before, like anything what? It has never explained what he doesn't remember. And I thought it was a bit of a slip up in the script

that he would just be, he would just announce that and it would go unquestioned and un, you know, they didn't flesh it out at all. He should have said, I don't remember anything before the, you know, or the last thing I remember is that is that clinging on ship blowing up or something like that. Right. I mean, it's a script supervisor's job to make sure that everything flows on the page, but it's a story supervisor's job to make sure that all of the pins in the storyboard

are wrapped with the red thread and tied to something else. This seems to be like a hanging pin, right? Yeah. It's a pin without thread. You've got to have that red thread going somewhere else to another pin probably Yeah, gotta get that thread I One day would love to have a mystery that I want to solve and need need a map in a bunch of headshots and red thread to solve it

What's missing from this picture? It's just me without my bike total fantasy All of my mysteries are just pins and limp thread. Ha ha ha. It's a very weird wall in your house. It's just a bunch of thumbtacks with lengths of string hanging off them, not leading to anything else. Just a lot of pictures of Benjamin R. Harrison

with pins in him and red thread coming out. People come in and they're like, is this art or is this like a, some kind of modern art? No. Get out of my room. You're not supposed to be in here. What's the significance? I don't know.

One of my favorite scenes in this is, is when Kira goes into Quark's bar and tries to leverage DAX into taking a stand and taking a side. And sort of admits to the idea of a coup that Kira is putting together. Yeah, it's a really fun scene. There's a moment where they hear a commotion and the camera whips over and they see Quark like kind of clumsily listening in. And Kira walks over to him full power hips, like struts up to him.

And it's like you want to get in on this Quirk and grabs him by the lapels and then tosses him against the back bar. This is another continuity thing that I didn't quite understand because like, does she have super strength from the thing that's inside her mind? I don't know. It because if she does, then the moment that O'Brien slaps DAX in Ops, could have taken her head off. Yeah. Like, where's the super strength then?

Yeah, maybe Ferenji's have like bird bones and they're really light. Because it would be fun to know more about. It might be like a wire stunt the way he flies back. Yeah, like he really looks great. He really flies back. Like I mean, he doesn't fly back that far, but like she definitely like appears to lift him off the ground

and fling him, you know, from two outstretched arms, which, you know, I don't even know if I could do that. And I have like a good amount of upper body strength. Have you ever entered one of those bar contests where you have to hold a mug of beer out in front of you for the longest? No. To win a prize?

No. Did that for an October fest a couple of years ago? Not very loud. Like bar straight out. Yeah, arms straight out. Johnny and mug of beer. Yeah, when I was in. Yeah, arm straight out, Johnny Muggebeer. Yeah, when I was on the crew team in high school, there was an exercise we had to do where there was like

a short length of like a broom handle with a string tied to the middle of it and a weight on the string. And the string was like, you know, four and a half feet long. And you just had to rotate the broom handle and wind the string up until the weight was at the top and then unwind it and keep control. And it was like, I don't know what muscle this is building, but I don't have it.

You know, I now know what I'm tying my Benjamin R. Harrison pin and red bread too. The answer is a broom handle. This scene is followed by one where Quark is in Odo's office wearing a Ferengy neck brace. Yeah, Quark looking for all the world like a ambulance chasing attorney. Let me ask you a question, Miss Toller. Did you enjoy being a guest to the state? He has a pretty real gripe, though. He was thrown across his own bar by Kira. Yeah, I would like to report an assault, sir. Yeah, totally on Corkside here.

That was an assault. Yeah, and Ohno is interested to hear it, but more interested in just how weird everybody is acting than, you know, enforcing any specific crimes? She tried to convince Dax to take her side. And did Dax seem persuaded? What difference is that? Like, I was attacked.

Answer the question. He's still working the mystery in a macro sense, right? He's really like ears to the street trying to figure out what's happening. He doesn't really have a theory at this point. Yeah. He's trying to get maximum information. Yep, so you know like he he takes a trip up to Ops and finds that Cisco is in full clock building mode and full like co-canned mode too. Yeah. You know, it's that like Cisco is like full clock building mode and full like co-canned mode too. Yeah. You know what I'm saying?

Cisco's like his like affect in this was guy at party who keeps going to the bathroom. That is such a specific guy. Yeah. Yeah, that's him. So, you know, everybody's trying to figure out who's loyal to whom and what's going on. And eventually, like, like, Odo is like,

all right, this station is going completely crazy and tries to radio up Starfleet command and finds that Kira has cut off communications to anything in Starfleet and similarly, Cisco and O'Brien have cut off any communications to Bejor. So there isn't a way to get word out to the people that might need to know that shit is falling apart rapidly on the station.

This was the truly scary part of the app. Like this is the moment in the horror movie where the telephone lines get cut. Right, yeah. That times. And he finally like gets the work back from the computer where it's cleaned up the captains logs from the Klingon ship.

And the last log is about how they found some ruins and energy spheres and there's like a telepathic archive within the spheres. It's like the last record of some ancient race that, you know, were their civilization tore itself apart because of some power struggle. And so that is pretty much the theory that he is going on after this. But why is that always the thing that a society that's tearing itself apart does? Like this happened in masks, right?

Yeah, this is kind of like... We're gonna document the downfall of our civilization and make you live it. It happened in the interlite too. Right, it's such a curse. Yeah. It's like the last act of an asshole. It's like the guy in the action movie

who is shooting the machine gun and he's getting pelted with bullets but he's taken everyone else in the room out with him. These alien races are a lot like the bad guy in seven, where they like, they like think that their death means something. It's like, no, you're just crazy. You're just crazy and bad. Yeah, the deep space 9 crew becomes wrath, don't they?

They really do. If you had to put Odo's head in in a box you could just use a bag right? What's in the box balloon? It's a box with with googly eyes. There's nothing in the box. He is the box So, Oto goes to Bashir and he's like, hey man, what if we did something to mitigate maybe some telepathic frequencies that are happening here on the station? What would that look like? And Bashir is like, yeah, we could do that, but why would we? We are trying to take over. This is a power struggle.

We got to keep our eye on the prize, Odo. Odo's like, well, we don't want them to blow the station up before we can take over. Do we? And Bashir is like, you're just as devious as I am. Let's do it. That's a really fun moment of Odo thinking on his feet there. Yeah. Odo doing some his feet there. Yeah. Odo doing some reverse psychology on Bashir.

And so Bashir gets to work. And Odo sort of engineers, a bunch of intrigue that winds up with everybody running down to a certain cargo bay. And everybody that was in ops when the Klingon guy first showed up, gets down there, and Bashir and Odo show up, and the like mitigating wave turns on. And a lot like the episode, the storyteller, some groovy head rainbows show up above everybody's heads. And Odo like blows the head rainbows out the airlock. Yeah, he alien queens these rainbows.

Yeah, just a shame he didn't put on a Dishikki to do it. I feel like that's been kind of established as what you do. The Dishikki should be a requirement. And it's literally like mind bubbles and they go out into space and like dissipate and problem solved. This is the second straight episode where the button feels like characters coming together after a night of heavy drinking and like needing to apologize for the previous night's actions. Yeah. Because Kira goes into Cisco's quarters and she's like, hey, sorry about the whole coup thing.

Hey, remember when I tried to kill you? Feel bad about that. Yeah, not a good look. Yeah. Anyway, I think it's pretty funny about it though. You're so serious. I think it's hilarious. The K though. He says that. I think it's hilarious. The Kira apologized to Cisco and not Kork,

who is the most deserving of an apology. Yeah. Kork almost broke his fucking neck. I think Kork fucking hates her from now on. Cisco, Cisco's sitting pretty with a beautiful clock that he made by hand. Yeah, I think the winner of the episode is Cisco, right? Beautiful clock, un made by hand. Yeah, I think the winner of the episode is Cisco, right? Beautiful clock, uninjured.

Only one that got a, got a pan flute souvenir out of the thing. Yeah. Loser of the episode, definitely quirk. Ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha Oh man, I did not really like this episode. I found myself kinda drifting in and out and it was... It was actually like so boring that a couple of times I like got up and did something else for a while and came back to it. Oh no. Yeah. I just couldn't get into it and I think it's probably a better episode from a writing standpoint and Mesh. But for some reason Mesh just keeps my attention more.

For telling a very similar story, you know. The story isn't just derivative, you know, for Star Trek, but the story is derivative for season one, Deep Space Nine. Yeah. I mean, the episode that preceded this one was a computer form of virus. And then here we are with a personality-based virus.

It seems to be well-warned territory that isn't completely motivated with telling it in a different way. It's not even that different from, if wishes were horses, the episode, from two episodes ago. Right. Right. This uh, this sanity pinata is out of candy, Ben. Yeah. That's what I think.

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You know, Ben, when Kelly wrote episode 111, season five, episode two, I wasn't clear on which one that was. I think we know which episode that is now. But context clues have made it clear that this was the de-annitory mind-rape episode. Yeah, it's an episode that I think we both feel weird about because it's not a fun or funny episode of our podcast,

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always wanting like a working definition of that a key fave is the term of art for when a wrestler uh you know is a character or or doing a work on someone else. When he's part of a storyline in which he acts or has to act a certain way to sell a story, like a wrestler acts as a character, but he also must hold a storyline in his head. It's that storyline that is keyfabe. So like a wrestling character's relationship to other wrestling characters, or like a rivalry or long storyline, like those are all,

like things that are predetermined and taken as being genuine by the wrestler, that's what keyfabe is. And so the like to break keyfabe would be like a wrestler like limping out and like acting injured from a previous match. And then like when they walk away like they don't limp and it's like that guy just forgot that he's supposed to be limping.

Right. Keyfabe is is what you do when you're seen. Like you must be in character at all times. You must preserve your keyfabe. Like a costume character at Disneyland. Right? You don't want any kids to see you smoking backstage. That's not what princesses do.

No. My drink's from Oda is DAX for, I just think like she is the character being the silliest and having the most fun in this episode like her like heads off to the elevator to go get on a runabout and look for the flight recorder. And she's just like lost in, you can see that she's thinking about a lot and like thinking about something funny. But it's totally inside her head.

And it's a really terrific performance by Terry Farrell and it really made me laugh. Ben, what are we have coming up on the next episode? The next episode is season one episode 18, the penultimate episode of season one of Deep Space Nine. Do it! Kira discovers that a Cardassian visiting the station could actually be an notorious war criminal? Do it! Kir------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------ Yeah, let's see Drinking during that episode would be a walk crime Oh, man almost as far from

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