The Greatest Generation - Pizza Place Tough Guy (S7E23)

Episode Date: September 25, 2017

When a clump of crazy straws sets up shop inside the wiring of the Enterprise, the ship’s holodeck programs become self aware. But when the characters begin to endanger the ship, they attempt to tak...e back control by playing by their rules. Who's got time for canapés? Is there something going on between Jellico and Nechayev? Does the Parrot Army have anything to do with any of this? It's the episode where we finally decide what Riker's favorite sexual position is.

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Starting point is 00:00:00 Priority 1 message from Starfleet coming in on Secured Channel. Hey friends of Disodo. Before today's episode, we just wanted to take a moment to talk about the historic labor actions being taken by writers and actors in the American Film and Television industry. If you're a fan of the work done by the people who make Star Trek, we hope you'll join us in standing in solidarity with the folks who actually bring these adventures to life. Over the past several years, the AMPTP, the organization that represents the American Film and Television Production Studios, have reduced the profit from movies and TV going to workers. And in so doing,
Starting point is 00:00:35 they've attempted to weaken the labor unions that represent those workers. They wouldn't even engage the unions on many issues in their negotiations. And so a strike was the only course of action to take. Adam, Wendy and I have been having a lot of internal discussions about how best to stand with the unions and we are continuing those conversations in a dynamic situation. We're doing our best to understand where the picket lines are in these digital spaces,
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Starting point is 00:01:25 in good faith with the unions. It provides financial support for writers, actors, and all the thousands of laborers who make the shows that we talk about here and without whom we wouldn't have Star Trek to cast pot about. Those folks are all out of work because billionaires, company shareholders, and the executives of these companies don't want to compromise on the length of their yachts. We hope you'll join us in supporting entertainment workers in a challenging time, especially after they've already endured several years of challenges brought on by the pandemic
Starting point is 00:01:55 and season two of Star Trek Picard. We've set up a page where you can also contribute. It's at friendsofdecotoforlabor.com. That's friendsofdecotoforlabor.com. That's friendsofdisotoforlabor.com. Link in the episode description. Okay, now let's get on with the show. Here's to the greatest generation. The Star Trek Podcast by two guys are a little bit embarrassed to have a Star Trek Podcast. I'm Adam Pranika.
Starting point is 00:02:33 I'm Ben Harrison. Ben, it is the Monday after. The Monday after Star Trek Discovery, I wish we had something to talk about, but because we are recording so far into the future We will just allow our sister show to do the work for us, won't we? Yeah, those guys over there on the greatest discovery. I feel like I feel like they're gonna do a great job I really believe in those two The greatest discovery, of course, a wholly owned subsidiary of Oxbridge, Shimoda, LLC.
Starting point is 00:03:08 A show of and four people interested in the conversation about Star Trek Discovery, the new CBS show. God, there's so much going on right now. We're coming to the end of Greatest Gen. Got new Star Trek coming out. New pod. New format. We're gonna go to one a week with our show.
Starting point is 00:03:31 Yeah. New city for you. Moving to LA. Yeah, move, and like, I moved to LA. Let me just look this up to make sure that I've got this right. I moved to LA a week from the day this episode is coming out, which is the day that the last episode of the greatest generation about Star Trek, the next generation comes up.
Starting point is 00:03:52 You're gonna have to trade in all the sweaters for footflops, man. That's it, you're gonna have to do. I put out a question on Twitter today. I was like looking at my TV and I was like, do I really want to risk packing this up and shipping it across the country? And so I put it out on Twitter like, what's the deal? Do I buy a new TV when I get there or do I ship this one and keep the TV I've got? Like more than anything, it seems like
Starting point is 00:04:18 it was a bunch of people that were like, come on, Ben, get yourself a nice TV. That's encouraging. Yeah. So, I feel like, I feel like, you know, I'm going to print out some of these tweets and show them to my wife and see if I can't convince her that this is a great plan. Ben, if I recall correctly, you have quite a list going already for the CLA move. Once you find a place to live, you are going to get a Pebble Ice Machine, as I recall.
Starting point is 00:04:47 You are going to get a cat. Uh huh. And an ice cream maker. Oh, an ice cream maker also. Yeah. Like a nice one, not like one of those, Margaritaville, like Ice Beverage Machines, right? No, what I want is the,
Starting point is 00:05:04 is not even the one where you put the bucket in the freezer for two days. That's the kind that we have. We've got the kitchen aid kind. Yeah, I want to get the kind that has its own cooling unit built in. The kind that is ridiculous for a private household tone. You are basically my wife's nightmare because I am very much on your side.
Starting point is 00:05:28 I like single use kitchen items. The three times per year that we are able to use them. My wife is constantly encouraging me not to make those purchases. It seems like you may have a more of an ally in that regard than I do. I think that I have, I have found a perfect way to exploit my wife's feelings of guilt about making me move to a city that I would not have chosen for myself. Ben, if you ask anyone what the secret to a happy marriage is, it's the exploitation of your spouse's guilt. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:06:13 Yeah, no, our rabbi said that to us when we met with him before our wedding. That's perfect. This marriage has an extremely high dollar value. It was a can't just nuke the marriage from orbit. Rabbi Utanovitz pulled us aside. Rabbi, is anyone ever confused you for a family therapist? Well, best of luck, Ben. We haven't talked about what recording schedule is going to be like, but do you have a last helicopter off of the roof of your apartment for recording pod before you move?
Starting point is 00:06:58 Do we know that at this point? Or are we just going to run it right up until the end. I think that my, you know, like I've got, we're recording this a couple of weeks before that day. And I've tried to forecast. I think we'll probably get at least the first few DS9s recorded before I go. That's my hunch. Yeah, well, we'll just take it as it comes.
Starting point is 00:07:23 This has sort of been that kind of production schedule. Yeah. It's a, it has been a hair on fire kind of month. It really is. Like let's, it's not the tour's fault, is it? I don't think it's the tour's fault and yet the tour was a big, big part of it. Like I went from job to tour to job again
Starting point is 00:07:44 and that really fucked us. I think that I need to get fewer jobs. The other thing was I was so focused on the tour that I assumed that time wasn't passing back in the world. I got back from the tour and I was like, man, we don't have anything to prepare for. Then I was like, oh shit, I have to move my entire life across country. We have to start another podcast. There's a lot on our on our plates right now.
Starting point is 00:08:09 Yeah. It's so interesting that we are starting two new shows basically simultaneously. Interesting. Yeah, that's the word. Interesting like the episode we're gonna review today, Ben. Interesting like a writer's room that's taken lots and lots of mushrooms. It's season seven, episode 23, emergence.
Starting point is 00:08:35 This is becoming a speech. Where the cat comes though, very entitled. Hmm, I'm gonna type a ramble on about something everyone knows. Adam, this episode starts with Picard, sort of like looking at his phone. Well, Data's trying to practice Shakespeare. You know, that thing where you're like trying to be there for your buddy, but it's just so boring that you kind of get lost and, you know, seeing if you can't beat that one level of power defense. Data like looked at his costume and masks and was like, could we do a little better than that
Starting point is 00:09:14 for this performance? And they full on like Blair Witch him. In this holiday performance, he's playing a press baro in the tempest. In a play that is very self-referential, I feel like. They even talk around it. One of Shakespeare's last plays, a kind of meditation on final acts, if you will. Have you, like, this is a show that's sort of describing itself in this moment? It is. It's the kind of like the cliff notes version of self-interspection though.
Starting point is 00:09:47 Yes. Much like the card is looking at his own phone during, this is an episode where I found that fairly easy. I feel like Datas costume looks amazing when the lights are low, but then a train comes around the bend and they get blasted and like a little over exposed and then suddenly Tatus costume looks like a Vegas lounge act circa 1974.
Starting point is 00:10:11 Yeah, it's sort of the same effect that happens when people walk off the holiday in costume. Like as soon as you hit the office lights, you just look like a fucking perfume. Yeah, not great. They're talking about Shakespeare and what Shakespeare was thinking about what he wrote the tempest and then this train comes and... It's a real Ghostbusters 2 in the sewer moment, isn't it? Did you catch a number on the locomotive? Sorry, I missed it.
Starting point is 00:10:39 Yeah, but in the sewer it made sense that there would be a train down there, right? I guess so. At least, at least location contextual sense. And data does not stand on the tracks and allow it to blow through them. Like the way Winston does. Yeah. Data, data goes ahead and pushes Picard out of the way. And, and he himself jumps after. And Picard takes an abrasion on the face.
Starting point is 00:11:08 The first of two face abrasions will get in this episode. I was thinking the same thing like is there an area on the holodeck door, much like a World War II fighter pilot, like where they're just like hashmark on the face. Face mark? Yeah. hash mark on the face. Face mark. Yeah. Yeah. The safeties were off.
Starting point is 00:11:28 They could have gotten squished by this train. And what a way to go out. Not great. Federation's most valuable piece of material and captain of a flagship, killed in a free colodec accident. Yeah. Cut to credits. Riker sending the report after Admiral Nichev about that has got to be like, oh god, this looks bad.
Starting point is 00:11:55 How do you think Nichev takes that? Like it's sort of a good news, bad news thing? Like, does Nichev say will, like does she toss will the keys to the ship? Or is it like, get your ass back to Earth major inquiry time? She was super willing to install a captain of her own during the Native American repopulation project of a couple episodes ago. Yeah. I think she has someone in mind. Why doesn't. I think she has someone in mind.
Starting point is 00:12:25 Why doesn't she just say she has someone in mind? And who it is specifically, I think that would make for a fun bit of conflict if we know who this person is. Yeah. Like Jellico just waiting in the wings. I don't like you. What is Natchae's relationship to Jellico?
Starting point is 00:12:44 Do you think they've fucked is that we are applying i mean does he just we've got the torre and canapes or whatever yeah i mean you look at jellico i think he's got time for canapes now he's trying to force if rotation he's uh... he's got a lot of uh... sleepy people on his ship. They can't a big game is super tight. Does that mean that if you're running a four-shift rotation,
Starting point is 00:13:11 does that mean at any given moment, three quarters of the ship's crew are not working? If you're running a four-shift rotation, does that mean all of your shifts are six hours? I guess it would. That's kind of sweet. I mean, why wouldn't your crew want that? They depict Jelico as being so uptight But that's great if you get off You get a off work at like at like 3.30 p.m. Fuck it. Let's go drinkin guys Yeah, that sounds good to me. I don't know, I don't know why everyone was so butt hurt about that.
Starting point is 00:13:47 I think it was like literally Riker was butt hurt about having to like, rejigger his i-cal or whatever. Yeah, maybe Riker was the only one with a problem with that. Maybe Riker was the antagonist the whole time in that episode. I'd like to watch that episode again through fresh eyes. Yeah, now that we've come to this amazing revelation about what a chill dude, Jelico, actually was. Jelico and DeSoda were like best buds at the Academy.
Starting point is 00:14:18 I mean, roommates. He had a catchphrase that was very close to Larry the cable guy. Heard-a-dun. That's the kind of vibe he was going for, I think. You know, DeSoda was listening to Jelico jerk it in the bottom bunk at the Academy. Yeah. DeSoda's got like an HF rotation. He's like, guys, don't break a sweat.
Starting point is 00:14:39 This is just starfleet. There's no money. Everyone works four hours with a 45 minute break right in the middle. That's how we run the hood. That's how we've always run the hood. So we come back from title sequence and Picard and Data decided to shut down Holodeck for a while while they figure out what is going on. That could be a really bad moment for anyone who's inside running their program.
Starting point is 00:15:08 They only briefly mentioned it, but much like the last episode where Jason is beamed off of a climbing wall, mid climb, depending on what you're mid doing on the holodeck, that could be quite a shock. You just smash cut the holodeck too and Riker falls a foot and a half from a prone position. From a standing 69 position, he falls on his head. I love the idea that Riker would be the upside down one in a standing 69. He went.
Starting point is 00:15:42 upside down one in a standing 16. Oh man. He, like his taste is just Amazonian size women. Like ready to do snooze new on him. I don't believe this. Spirit is willing with the flesh is spongy and bruised. Like they, they send another, another killed in the line of duty message to Nichev about Riker. Yeah, he broke his neck.
Starting point is 00:16:11 I think at that point Nichev might assume command herself. Like that's the top three. The top three get killed on the entrepreneur in one terrifying holiday accident. What would it be like to be the people that go into that holiday and find Riker? Like, Riger Mordus has set into the boner. That was...
Starting point is 00:16:40 That's a face down in the casket if you're burying Riker. That's one face down in the casket if you're if you're burying Riker. Ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha So they shut down the holodex. They get the captain patched up and what are they like off to, off to some adventure and they suddenly go to warp and the ship is like outside of their control at warp 7.3 and they're like up on their bridge and they're like data turned the warp off and he's like, I can't.
Starting point is 00:17:31 So they'd radio down to La Forge. They've got like, I love it when like the warp engine is really pumping away, you know? Yeah, it's a very satisfying pump. La Forge is like running around. He's like, I don't know what the fuck is going on. And I mean, we can turn it off, but it would mean like a full warp shutdown, which would, you know, it takes a while to get back from one of those.
Starting point is 00:17:53 One of the weak. Picard is pretty quick to say like, well, that's what we got to do then. Yeah, we can't just be out here ready to ram the ship into something. Yeah, they don't know where they're going. It's going to say like almost as quickly as it starts, they're jump-to-speed stops and Picard's like, Hey, Jordy, great job with that. That was slamming of the brakes.
Starting point is 00:18:12 That was really quick. You really nailed it. Jordy does not take the credit for this solution. What on this approach? Pleasant. I love the camera work in this episode, especially in engineering, because it's like Like Jordy like pushing himself back from his computer and he's like, I don't know what the fuck just happened the camera like like
Starting point is 00:18:33 Turns around his head so you can to reveal the warp core. It's great. Yeah I believe this is Cliff Bole in his last TNG episode. Oh Really? Belae in his last TNG episode. Oh really? Yeah, he's the director who directed the most TNG episodes. Wow. Mr. Cliff Belae. I mean, I thought that the directing of this was a lot of fun. Yeah. TBH, it stood out to...
Starting point is 00:19:02 25 TNG director credits for him. He is seven and DS9 and 10 and Voyager The guys are Titan. Yeah And he looks like a great guy. You look at his file photo like he he looks like he's in the parrot army or whatever The fucking people like Jimmy both at called himself wasting away in Margaritaville Yeah, oh man, he would enjoy a nice rose and beverage with you. I last weekend, as of this recording, went to the ash scattering of my uncle who, for 35 years, was in recovery from alcoholism. And I walked out onto the beach where we were holding the ash-gathering and like people from his Quaker meeting had set up music to play while it was going down.
Starting point is 00:19:52 And the song selection that they had picked was Margaritaville. And a portance of what we think, you're dying wishes my wall of gun. What? I came very close to just going and like yanking the cable out of the amp from the fucking guys. You know, it's like, you guys didn't know him at all. How sure are you that those were his wishes? That was the song that followed that shot, shot, shot, shot, shot, shot. Hey, now that you're dead, you're struggling with this chemical addiction. the song that followed that shot shot shot shot shot shot shot shot. Hey, now that you're dead, you're struggling with this chemical addiction is a fun joke.
Starting point is 00:20:35 Yeah. I, yeah, fortunately, they finished the song before my father came out, or I think it would have been pretty bad. Yeah. No kidding. Come on, guys. How'd a good look? Together. They're like, well what the hell was that about? Our ship is out of control.
Starting point is 00:20:52 And we're also having holovic problems. And Jordi and Dada come up with this kind of, it's not a solution, but a lead, which is that there's evidence in the ship's sensor that there was a Theta flux distortion building up around the ship that would have ripped the ship apart if it had built up anymore. And if they hadn't gone to warp right when they did... We would have been blown to pieces.
Starting point is 00:21:22 we would have been blown to pieces. And they say, Adam, our sensors don't scan for this thing. So it's amazing that we even have it in the sensor log. Is this a real thing that they have to... Like, if it can just without warning destroy the ship, wouldn't you want to be aware of it? Is this what, this is so stupid. Like, if it's possible to scan for something that could destroy your ship at any moment,
Starting point is 00:21:56 why don't they scan for it? That's like they choose not to. It's like they got to five minutes before they would have finished the invention that would have scanned for ThetaF flux distortions. Yeah. And then went on lunch break. It's like the enterprise was sitting on top of a jacuzzi jet when they weren't
Starting point is 00:22:15 supposed to. And then they could have had their assholes ripped out of them. The idea of this is terrifying. And what's weird about how everyone plays this is like, they don't play it as a, oh well, we should really start scanning for this shit in the future. They don't really postulate that.
Starting point is 00:22:36 They also don't talk about how great it is, like that they came within a hair of dying and they survived. There's no sort of, this is the thing that happens all the time on this show. There's no recognition of the wonder of the circumstance. This seems worthy of a, whoa, that's great. Good little ship and then give the ship a little pat
Starting point is 00:23:02 on the wall. Yeah, because we got us out of that pickle. Like the next scene is Jaden Dirty, like doing some Jeffery tube crawls. And they're like, yeah, I wonder how that happened. Maybe the ship picked up on it and warped because of some safety system, which is like, wait, what? Like, if that's possible, then that changes everything. Don't you think the operations officer
Starting point is 00:23:29 and the chief engineer would be aware of a system such as that? I mean, you could extrapolate that if the ship were capable of doing that, then why wouldn't it like fire on random shit that it's always a threat? Why didn't it shoot it? Why wouldn't it shoot at Damon Box Pro in the last episode? Yeah, like, I mean, like it's one thing if I discover that I can put my iPhone in low power mode, no matter what the battery level is, because it's like buried in a menu somewhere.
Starting point is 00:24:01 It's another thing for the chief engineer and the operations officer of a starship to be unaware of a system that can trigger warp speed because the ship is automatically trying to get them away from a threat. Jordi is like a guy who bought a, in our world, he's like a guy who bought a camera, but didn't read the instructions before taking it out on a shoot. And it's surprised to see that it records without hitting the record button. He, uh, he didn't read the manual on the ship. And so he can't confirm or deny the idea that the ship will just do this. And that's the most troubling part. So they find this giga looped in all these ship systems in the Jeffries tube.
Starting point is 00:24:51 It's kind of like six crazy straws all interacting with each other. Yeah, sure is. Man, you know that website think geek that does all those licensed office toys? They should do it a crazy straw based on the nice on the emergence thing. That would be great. I would fucking buy that shit. It's a straw so large and complex that like it would drain an entire drink into it before you even got to taste any of it.
Starting point is 00:25:24 Only Riker can can derive enough suction to pull liquid through it. And even then, he's got to be upside down to do it. Yeah, gotta be. Maybe Riker just has hiccups all the time. So these things are all over the ship. They show a diagram of the ship and it looks like infested. This is all concentrated on one of the holodecs. Let's go down there and see what's going on.
Starting point is 00:26:05 Maybe we can like shut it down at the source and they go down to the holodeck program is running. It's actually several programs. And so they go through the door and they are on a train. Right, or even has the throwaway line before they go in, like this should be interesting. Like I think he has an idea of what's gonna be behind that door.
Starting point is 00:26:32 And he has to be a little disappointed at what they see. Yeah, several programs are running, so Riker's like, what are the odds? It's not at least a couple of mine. Like it's two train cars 69 each other. So the three walk through that door that goes in between train cars and arrive in some sort of like saloon car. Yeah, this looks like a fancy way to travel, man. Yeah, it's a very nice interior train car scene. And you've got like some disparate character work happening here. You've got
Starting point is 00:27:12 a knight and a suit of armor. You've got sort of a Wyatt Erpie type figure. Yeah, you've got a rustic. You've got a flapper. You got a man in a gray flannel suit. Yeah, you got all the great minor characters. You got all of the great, we have this costume on the Paramount lot. Giant nude Amazonian woman. Like doing a cum hither finger to Riker. She's there of course. And David Huddleston, the conductor, comes in. Please have your tickets ready.
Starting point is 00:27:51 One of the greats. Yeah. Wearing HUD sucker. Ha, ha, ha. Walks in, asking for everybody's tickets, and he's in a conductor uniform. And he kind of ignores the crew at first. And while he's ignoring them, data is like,
Starting point is 00:28:07 oh, here's the panel in the floor of the holodeck where I get at the power, I'm just going to open this up and turn everything off. And that'll be great. And like as he's doing that, it gets the conductors attention. and he's like, hey, you guys are gonna have to give me tickets or I'm throwing you off this train. The pose will always lose! And into the fray, leaps the conductor who insists that these people are here to help. And it's like a real conflict between the conductor and the engineer. Engineer played by a real another that guy
Starting point is 00:28:55 in his own right, Thomas Copacci. He's been in a bunch of things. This guy pleased the catheter to cowboy from the last week tonight ads. He's great. And there's two things I know. I don't like paying when I cath. And the nuclear triad consists of land-based missiles,
Starting point is 00:29:12 submarine launch missiles, and aerial bombers. That's because I think we were talking about the fact that he has a little role in no country for old men. Yeah, the part with the boots. I know it's Larry's holding up. Yeah. Oh, I love this guy. Yeah. Man, I didn't recognize men. Yeah, the part with the boots. Allos Larry's holding up. I love this guy. Yeah, man, I didn't recognize him. Yeah, he really disappeared into that engineer part. That fucking engineer part is great. He really like, he really kills it. If you're an actor who plays parts like this, this has got to be one of the greats because it's one day of shooting. It's a super tooth-sum scene
Starting point is 00:29:48 for you as an actor and then you get killed. Yeah, you get killed by like a mafioso. The cowboy doesn't kill him. I thought the cowboy does. No, it's the like, you know, this guy's a friend of ours, guy to guy. Oh, right. Like the Godfather's pizza spokesman or whatever. Do it. He's a real pizza place tough guy. Yeah, I think you're thinking of the world's shittiest Kurt Russell character who doesn't wind up having any lines. Yeah, that guy's air sets her.
Starting point is 00:30:22 Ha, ha, ha. So they, they, I'm just going to touch every possible episode title there is as we go. I'm licking all of them. Lick all the cookies. So that they're mine. Adam, I spent 30 minutes on the phone yelling at our bank before we got on. So I'm not going to be coming up with any good quips. I'm just going to sit here and drink my sorrows away.
Starting point is 00:30:49 I'm doing great, Ben. What are you drinking by the buy? I'm having some searing of adipelials. Look at you. Hey, do you feel a lot of booze pressure to empty bottles before the move and like make that part of your move easier because I know the last time my wife and I moved We definitely felt the need and we just moved across town to like have a party get some stuff drunk I have feeling to do that. I have an unfinished a bowl amount of booze Due to my often on career as a cocktail influencer.
Starting point is 00:31:27 Beer is for breakfast, Randy, drink will be gone. Unfortunately, I'm gonna be shipping bottles. You know who else is a cocktail influencer? Bill Kasby. Mmm. I'm sorry, Ben. I just think that's a great title. The number of concern trolling tweets we're going to get about that.
Starting point is 00:31:49 Is concern troll the worst kind of troll to you? In some ways, I respect a straight-up troll troll more than a concern troll. I don't think we get much troll trolls. We pretty much only get concern trolls. Yeah. Yeah. The crew bounces off of this train because they don't have tickets. Data and Jordi head down to engineering with Riker and explain to him that the holodeck is running the show for now. It's a great Rikerize to commercial. What are the greatest? It's almost like sending rikerized to commercial
Starting point is 00:32:27 off into the wild blue yonder. It's like bottle rikerized. Like, we're saying goodbye to all the hits this last season. Yeah. Yeah, that's very true. It might be my favorite, like, I think it might be the best rikerized to commercial in the series. It's that good.
Starting point is 00:32:47 Is he semi-walled during because my favorite what rikerized to commercial are also when the camera gets too close so close that one I goes and one directly and one I goes and the other. It's for me that's my favorite. I did something that I enjoy. I call it crazy. It's like a it's like a medium shot and he just looks fucking floored the entire time.
Starting point is 00:33:11 I love the idea of giving him the gavel to commercial because he articulates so few concerns about this entire scene and yet he probably is the character with the most concerns. Yeah. Like he's the one in the background secretly like, Oh, God, they're, they're finally going to know everything. My life will never be the same. We come back and we are in a McLaughlin group. And Data has come up with some visual aids to show what brain stems look like. And he is demonstrating that the ghee gauze
Starting point is 00:33:52 that are embedding themselves in systems all over the ship are configured in a neural network configuration. And so he's suggesting that they need to kind of let this scene play out as they figure out what's going on. It seems like the ship may have developed some sort of intelligence. And while it's still like a primitive intelligence, it's within their charter is allowing these things to go down. They sort of gloss over the conflict that they've had many times on this show before about emergent life forms, which is the conflict between we should kill it because it poses
Starting point is 00:34:39 a threat to our lives and we should instead lay back and study it. It's weird because they've definitely talked about this a bunch of times, but this scene kind of plays like whoever wrote the episode, like read a pamphlet about emergent properties in science. Wrote an entire episode about their flimsy ass understanding of it. Did you notice that Wurf was standing up during this meeting? Why is that? Like they shoot all of the question and answer shots tight, like in close-up, including Wurf, but you can tell Wurf is standing.
Starting point is 00:35:20 Is it not a seat for Wurf? There's a wide shot that shows everybody assembled. And it is, yeah, it's weird. They're weirdly configured. Maybe Worf was like, I think there's like a deleted first part of the scene where Worf can't see over Riker, so he just gets out of his chair. I wonder if Worf is continuing to have kid problems. And he's like showing up late for
Starting point is 00:35:46 meetings, there's no seat left for him, there's an ongoing concern. No, no, no Adam, he promised not to let his personal life interfere with his duties. I'm sure everything will be great then. Yeah, it's gonna be cool. My love is a piece of love and guilt for that which is longer than us at the PC. How do you know you're not the boy yet? Troy decides to lead another expedition into the holodeck, right? Yeah, she's going to see what happens when she talks to the characters and do this more as a stranger in a strange land, visiting with the characters, everything is that's going down in the holodeck
Starting point is 00:36:28 has something to do with these objects that are appearing all over the ship. So she wants to talk to them and see if she can't get a sense of what they're after. This is a plan that's different from the first plan because in the first plan, data was just going to bring a wrench to the train and start like busting shit up. In this way, Troy just wants to see if
Starting point is 00:36:51 the program will articulate what it wants instead of just running rough shot over it and trying to, you know, affect a solution that way. But they didn't do is replicate up some tickets for this one. Which, no. They knew they knew was going to be an issue. And so they go on and like, there's like a puzzle that some of the characters are still doing. And it looks exactly like one of the things that's plugged into the ship. But she's like, they're all like, what, what could this be? I don't, I've never seen anything like it.
Starting point is 00:37:25 I guess Warfin Troy weren't the ones of the Jeffries tube, so maybe they haven't seen one, but like Jordy and DataSod and Data's there. Shouldn't that have been something that they brought up during the meeting? Yeah. Like even as just a one last thing, like, oh yeah, we also ran into this shape.
Starting point is 00:37:48 May or may not be important later. Yeah. Anyway. Well, they arrive at Keystone City and they come up out of the subway, so apparently this train is a subway. It's the seventh avenue line of the IRT if anybody is paying attention. It's like... Now I haven't been there before, Ben.
Starting point is 00:38:10 Is that where the Orient Express goes? Yeah. It goes through the back lot fake Manhattan that they probably also use in the Seinfeld program. Oh, yeah. Here's interesting trivia. No new sets were needed for this episode. The train set was a reuse from Bram Stoker's Dracula
Starting point is 00:38:29 and the in Paramount's standing New York City street set was used for Keystone City. There you go. Yeah. So it is like Erzatz Manhattan with no cars and no people. It's like, the cheap version of doing this kind of thing. And so they find like a manhole cover and data is like, this is cool. I can access the power from here. Maybe I can disconnect these little jabs from the ship without hurting them. Meanwhile,
Starting point is 00:38:59 Troy and Worf run off after the Maffioso, who they find shelling this gold brick into a, like, the last empty brickhole in a wall. And it lights up. It's like a real MacGuffin situation. And I haven't ever built a brick wall before, but is that how you do it? You leave bricks... Leave bricks un-bricked in the middle? Yeah. Now when you build in a brick wall on a holiday simulation... You don't necessarily have to build that wall the way you would in the real world.
Starting point is 00:39:43 For me, I like to build a fantasy brick wall, leaving portions of the brick exposed, holes in the wall itself, and lines that are less than 90 degrees square. Oshar regulations require hard hats in any brick laying context, but for this job, we're not wearing them so that it can be extra dramatic when the ship starts shaking and a bunch of breaks fall on Councillor Troy operating her face in exactly the same place as Captain Picard early in the episode. Now with any Japsite face abrasion, you can't want to go to your nearest OSHA approved first aid kit. You want to use hard, even pressure on the wound to stop the bleeding. I had a job for like nine months last year and part of what I was asked to do was set
Starting point is 00:40:38 up a little production studio, little studio space in a Manhattan office, and I like, I set it up and like the like building operations guy in our office came around and like noticed that I had put a fire extinguisher in first aid kit on the wall near the door and he was like, how'd this get here? And I was like, I ordered it for the studio because you kind of want those things. And he was like, fucking super impressed. I feel that way on, like, when I do event video production, like any time home base has that stuff around, it automatically feels like it's a professional production.
Starting point is 00:41:24 Like even though those are things that should be on every set, that stuff around, it automatically feels like it's a professional production. Like even though those are things that should be on every set, like seeing them out in the open, I mean, is an especially good feeling. Yeah, it's the kind of operation I want to run, you know? Yeah. Well, anyways, there's a thing that looks like the puzzle piece or the bigger version of the thing Jordy and Data found on the Jeffries tube that is like taken form in the cargo bay. Question is, what is it?
Starting point is 00:41:55 The ship is using like the transporter and the replicator. It's like tying systems in together to like make this thing happen. So, data is like trying to shut off the power and like a taxi cab has tried to hit him a couple of times, so he's like, he's doing a fun like, data feat of strength where he has a hand on the bumper of the car while he like flips a switch.
Starting point is 00:42:23 And- It felt very superman in Metropolis to me. Totally. Yeah. And he hits the switch and things really go to shit. The steps are shaking, bricks fall on Troy, the device in engineering starts giving them troubling readings on their tricorders.
Starting point is 00:42:52 So they get word to data to like cut it out with polarizing the power or whatever. Any stops and like the ship barely like doesn't fall apart. Yeah, Chris is averted, I guess. Just barely. It feels almost medical at this point, like the, uh, the conflict, right? The stop doing what you're doing and then the consequence is this other bad thing will stop happening too, right? Yeah, they've, uh, they've definitely found a causal relationship with, fucking with the objects and the ship getting worse and worse. But it is scary, right?
Starting point is 00:43:28 The ship is 100% out of their control, and they're like, we don't want to fuck with these things, but we do want to be able to not die. Yeah, we'd like to be able to breathe for longer than two hours, which is eventually the point where they get. They're like, hey, studying it is cool and everything, but this thing is taking all of the systems and reorienting them into its mission of creating this thing. Yeah, like it's trying to fly to a star that is full of vertion particles. And if it can like suck vertion particles out of the star, it will be able to finish whatever project
Starting point is 00:44:06 it has embarked on. And they fly to the first one, and it's not as many vertion particles as it's hoped. So the hood is like, fuck, this is in Vertiform City. And they're like, well, we know like a dope shortcut on this Verdeform City shit. And so they're trying to, like, they're basically trying to convince the emergent intelligence to let them steer the ship toward a nebula where they know that they can make more Verdeon particles. Like, they can shoot modified torpedoes into this nebula
Starting point is 00:44:47 and it'll generate as many Verdean particles as these crazy straws need to make their uber crazy straw. Because if they go to where the aliens want to go, they're gonna run out of air. I am a cute, disaball. There are four lights. So they go back in and they've remembered to replicate tickets this time.
Starting point is 00:45:08 And they tell the big Lebowski, like, listen, dude, where we got a great plan for how to get to Verdeform City. It's a shortcut. And you just got to let us up to that car at the front of the train It winds up with data like like turning wheels and crank and cranks to Steer the enterprise to this nebula that they found Yeah, that those gears and levers correspond to ship's functions is a really fun moment I thought and that that he was like, as soon as he pulls the speed brake, like the ship drops out of warp.
Starting point is 00:45:50 Yeah, and that he would know like which ones to pull and like, you know, where to, where to leave them and stuff. I'm surprised Troy didn't know how all those gears were given her knowledge of post-colonial culture and technology. But Hutsucker is very pleased. Are you surprised that my tears are? As is gangster boy. And they like, I guess like the ship like sucks in all the all the Verdeon particles it needs. Picard and the doctor and Will and Jordi head down to the cargo bay to check out the giant crazy straw on the floor of the cargo bay and it it does a a classic TNG like float up and then like emerge from the ship without you the ship without it can just go right through Wallsman.
Starting point is 00:46:50 And it floats away. This is the thing that's happened half a dozen times on this show. I know. Little sparkly gag goes through the wall and leaves. Never to be seen again. It's an obscure clause in some contract that every season of the series
Starting point is 00:47:06 has to have a point of light emerging from the ship and floating away in space. They always never see it again too. Yeah, yeah, you never get any follow-up on these guys. Damon Bach, sure, will get some follow-up on him, but... Yeah, ridiculous. And then they have a big party on the train. Yeah, I mean, when you save the day, I suppose you want to stay around on your weird, holodeck program and have some martinis, right? Got to. Mission accomplished.
Starting point is 00:47:39 The button on the episode is data coming in and going like, well, we let that thing, like, self-derive and then float away. But we have no idea if it's like a good creature or an evil creature. And Picard is like, well, it didn't just self-form. It formed itself out of our own ship. So it's had access to all of our logs and all of our experiences, our
Starting point is 00:48:07 its experiences. And hopefully if we've lived honorably, it will have a positive future. You know what other beings had access to all of his memories and feelings are the Borgs. Didn't change their minds about anything W-slash-R-slash-T genocide. Or the Nubbin Bugs. The Nubbin Bugs knew everything about the Federation and they're still evil and out there. Where do you get off, Picard? I wish I was talking about like all of our hopes and dreams if the camera had panned over to reveal that Riker was sitting there on his couch, just like finger and collar like yeee. Ooh. It seemed especially interested in the holodeck.
Starting point is 00:48:57 Oh no. It's now it's just free to roam the galaxy looking for things to fuck. Did you like this episode, Ben? I do like this episode. Like, I think that it stubs its toe on a lot of dumbness at the beginning, but it's kind of like the best case scenario with fun in the holiday, I think. We're like the characters tend to be pretty fun
Starting point is 00:49:32 and they don't get caught up in it being a costume drama in an annoying way. Yeah, boy, it walks right up to that line of ham and cheese and just doesn't succeed and quite jumping completely over it. The way it so often does in holiday gaps. Yeah, so in that way, I think it's pretty fun. And there's some really fun camera work in this. There's a shot in engineering at one point that is like Jordy in Shimoda Corner,
Starting point is 00:50:07 and it's through that window, but from the second level of engineering, so the warp core is soft focus in the foreground, and Jordy is deep in the background. And it's one of the most layered shots, and it's like a shot we've never gotten. But it's so cool, it's so cool to see this set from an angle we've never seen it from
Starting point is 00:50:27 at like three episodes from the end of the series. That there are still new ways to shoot this set, I think, is a real treat sometimes to see. I like the episode too, but it's one of those apps that I hardly remembered before watching it this time. And I don't know if I would go and seek out and watch again. Like, you know, sometimes when I wanna watch TNG, I'll like go find a favorite episode,
Starting point is 00:50:53 or an episode that I remember is being interesting, but like, this would never fall into either category. Like, I don't know that I would go seek it out if it wasn't in the order that I needed to watch this show. So, that's my review, I guess. Well, Adam, do you think we should go check out if we have any priority one messages? Yeah, let's do that. Priority one message from Starfleet coming in on Secured Channel. Need a supplement on it.
Starting point is 00:51:22 A supplement on it? A supplement. A supplement. A supplement? A supplement. Yes, extra. The interest alone could be enough to buy this ship! Ben our first priority one message is from Robert Jason Harris, a legit bad hygienist, astrologer Ja'john, ursprung Esquire and all around Patas. It is 4, Andrew Wade Nathalsky, Olympic Gold Medalist in Polar Region Trolling in
Starting point is 00:51:50 Genital Wartsize. Oh jeez. God, you know, like they're using first middle and last name like they're both serial killers. Message goes like this, when you left for pole I shith a single tear, unaware you'd make it my childhood Halloween costume. Ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha A.S.C.I. Middle Fingers over stable internet. Go fuck yourself with the dwindling Ross-I-shelf. Megan says hi. Did I read that right? That sounded... that sounded difficult at times. I think you left for pole.
Starting point is 00:52:38 I think Andrew Nydelski actually wrote us about how he's... at the South Pole. He's grilled cheese guy, right? I think he, I think he like had us give his friends in Chicago a shout out. Is that the same guy? I remember that too, that's gotta be the same guy. Or do we have more than one listener
Starting point is 00:52:58 in the polar region, Adam? Are we deep-peeing the polar region? I... Are we... ...deep-peeing the polar region? I- ...hehhehhehhehhehhehhehhehhehhehhehhehhehhehhehhehhehhehhehhehhehhehhehhehhehhehhehhehhehhehhehhehhehhehhehhehhehhehhehhehhehhehhehhehhehhehhehhehhehhehhehhehhehhehhehhehhehhehhehhehhehhehhehhehhehhehhehhehhehhehhehhehhehhehhehhehhehhehhehhehhehhehhehhehhehhehhehhehhehhehhehhehhehhehhehhehhehhehhehhehhehhehhehhehhehhehhehhehhehhehhehhehhehhehhehhehhehhehhehhehhehhehhehhehhehhehhehhehhehhehhehhehhehhehhehhehhehhehhehhehhehhehhehhehhehhehhehhehhehhehhehhehhehhehhehhehhehhehhehhehhehhehhehhehhehhehhehhehhehhehhehhehhehhehhehhehhehhehhehhehhehhehhehhehhehhehhehhehhehhehhehhehhehhehhehhehhehhehhehhehhehhehhehhehhehhehhehhehhehhehhehhe eyes start to cross and you just sort of like lose track on reality. You go eyes cross to commercial. Adam our second priority one message here is from Jonathan and it's for Aaron. It goes like this. You kick like a red bull. Stun and kill with your smile. All a week to your charm. Resistance is futile. Also, your wicked awesome badass.
Starting point is 00:53:47 Just saying. Hey, that's nice. That is a sweet message. That's a nice message after a potentially not nice message. I like it when it works out that way. Yeah. I wonder if Jonathan and Aaron are like good friends or lovers. Hmm. Impossible to know. Impossible to know. We can only speculate. We can only speculate and come to the conclusion that yes.
Starting point is 00:54:19 Yes, they are. Well, if you have a message for a friend, enemy or lover of the personal nature, you can have us read that message live on the air by going to maximumfund.org slash jembo-tron personal messages are $100 and commercial messages which seek to commercialize your product or project or $200.00. They're a great way to support the ongoing production of this program. Thanks guys. Thank you. Hey, Ben. What's that? Did you find yourself a drunk Shimoda? Oh boy, I had a I had a big time drunk Shimoda in this one Adam. They get into that train car the second time and they really want to work on depolarizing the power or whatever.
Starting point is 00:55:16 And data says to Wharf and Troy like, and specifically he says to Wharf, distract these holiday characters while I do this, because they got pretty lit the last time. What does Worf do? Sit down and get involved in a puzzle. Worf is going to be such a great old when he gets there. Hey, you guys puss him? I love how they treat him too. Like War, War Fast Something Stupid. Like, so what is it? And they're like, it's a puzzle dumbass.
Starting point is 00:55:54 I know. I'm into puzzles. I'm asking what the picture is. Bennett occurs to me that as we wrap up the greatest generation, next generation version, all of these Shimotas toward the end really have implications in terms of season seven, master Shimota, and series wide Shimota. So it is with some knowledge of how the scoring is going, that I'm also going to give my Shimoda to Wurf. Whoa. Got in a lot of these throughout season seven and also the series, but I'm going to give it to him
Starting point is 00:56:34 for a different moment. They board the train, and I think it's the time when Wurf, and Troy, and Data are on board, that the conductors, like we could use some help in the locomotive, and Data, and Data are on board that the conductors like we could use some help in the in the locomotive and Data, and Troy are like, well, Worf, you're the you're the biggest and strapping list of all of us. Why don't you go shovel some fucking coal. And the look on Worf's face is one of recognition and humiliation. He recognizes that he's the one most suited to shoveling coal.
Starting point is 00:57:09 There's also some amount of humiliation to the idea that this is what best serves the mission. Him doing manual labor and the locomotive and the look on his face. That fucking look. He's so crushed. He's sort of eye rolls. He's in profile so you don't see
Starting point is 00:57:25 the eye roll, but it's definitely there. So yeah, wharf. Double Shimoda, different times. Rock and roll wharf. In an episode that may put him up over the top, I don't know. We'll just have to see what the scoring is at the end of the season. We can only wait till Colin Dinsmore finishes his tabulations. Are we doing shimotas for Deep Space 9 and Discovery? I feel like shimotas is something that we should bring forward. Shimotas in the DNA of our show. Yeah, we can't not do shimotas.
Starting point is 00:57:57 Yeah, how are we supposed to know who's having the most fun or acting the weirdest? I would say that the character Jim Shim is timeless, agreed, is beloved, cosine, and should not be abandoned like something that was TNG only. Can cure. A Greatest Gen Live Show is something you don't want to miss. Why? Well, it's a great opportunity to see me and Ben in person, but that's not all. FODs from all over gather at these shows to cosplay, to do pre and post-show hangs, to make friends, and share their embarrassment.
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Starting point is 00:59:43 These clouds are really freaking me out. I hate having to stand in line and, hey, oh, I'm glad I found you a line. These clouds are really freaking me out. I hate having to stand in line and boy, what a line. These giraffes do not smell good. No, they do not, and they've such short neck. But I'm here and we need to get on this. We've got to get on the art. It is about terrain, about a spout to destroy humanity. Hey, oh, sorry, sorry, sorry.
Starting point is 01:00:00 Are you Noah? Yeah, I know we look like humans. We're actually, we're podcasters. We are podcasters, so it's different. Have you heard of Ono Ross and Carrie? We investigate spirituality, claims of the paranormal, stuff like that. And you have a boat and say the world's gonna end,
Starting point is 01:00:13 so seem like something for us to check out. We would love to be on the boats. We came two by two. What do you think? Ono Ross and Carrie, available on MaximumFun and Outdoor. ["Domokrigage Angelade, Ten-Denarker, Ten-Denarker, Ten-Denarker." Ben, what do we have coming up on the next episode? The next episode is season seven, episode 24, preemptive strike,
Starting point is 01:00:37 Ro Larin. ["Rolarin." It's forse to choose between her loyalty to Picard and her hatred toward Cardassia when she accepts an assignment to infiltrate the mequeous. I'm so glad we're going to bring that drop back. Yeah. That'll be fun. Has Robyn in anything this season?
Starting point is 01:01:04 This man, I don't know. This might be her. It feels like it's been a long time. Her season seven debut. I love that they give her a good bye. This is one of the great episodes in season seven, I think. Is this the penultimate episode? Is this the episode before all good things?
Starting point is 01:01:24 It is. Wow, I can't believe it. We're really coming to the end, man. I, one time in college was working on a screenplay project and I presented a version of the screenplay I presented a version of the screenplay in class, and we would read them aloud, you know, you'd cast all the characters. And before I got my feedback from the professor in the class, I said, I'm hoping this is the penultimate draft. I'll do of this screenplay.
Starting point is 01:02:01 And my professor said, what do you mean by that? And I said, well, you know, like, I'll take your feedback now and I'll do one more draft and then hopefully that'll be it. And he said, good answer. And it was very clear in saying good answer that he didn't think I knew what penultimate meant. Oh, boy. Think about that moment a lot.
Starting point is 01:02:24 He was attempting to get you ensnared in a penultimate trap. Think about that moment a lot. He was attempting to get you ensnared in a penultimate trap. He really wanted to embarrass me in front of the class. What a jerk! Yeah, I loved that professor though. He was so good. He was firm but fair. He was firm but fair and I knew he hated me an educator could hate you. And your personal feelings on them would be, that's fair.
Starting point is 01:02:48 Yeah, I could see how you could hate me. I know exactly why this doesn't work for you, but I appreciate all the things that you're teaching me. Is that the way you absorbed breakups too? Like, girl breaks up? Yeah, I know that you're teaching me. Is that the way you absorbed breakups to, like girl breaks up with you? Yeah, that checks out. A hundred percent Adam.
Starting point is 01:03:16 Every time, every time I've ever been told by a woman that she's not interested in seeing me anymore, it's been like, yeah, this math problem finally has the answer it was looking for. It's why I so rarely fight those moments at the time because the reasoning is so sound. Yeah, yeah, you're not wrong. Setting inside the idea that for all the kiddos out there
Starting point is 01:03:40 struggling through relationships, you should never be in a position to convince who you're with that they should be with you. But the idea of at the moment of breakup, there being any moment where you could be like, but that's not true, that's not me, I can be better, you never want to be that guy, you are who you are. And every single time I've been broken up with that has been my reaction. Yeah, you got me. You found me out. How did you describe that teacher as viewing you? I would say that he was a professor that had kind of three tears in the class. They were like, you know, like, in the sections where it was like only 20 of us, there were three or four kids that were people that he obviously thought had talent and admired.
Starting point is 01:04:42 They're writing and then they were like a big group of kids in the middle where it was just kind of like, okay, you're in this class, you're gonna like learn the shit I say to you, but I don't really care about you. And then there was me in like maybe five or six other kids that was just like, you are beyond help, you are idiots, and I can't believe I have to fucking waste my time on you I'm gonna humiliate you. Yeah, like we're was anyone in the top tier not a girl that he wanted to fuck Yeah, no like they were like it was a screenwriting class in a In in like I don't know sophomore year of And there were like, there were kids writing scripts
Starting point is 01:05:25 in that class that I was like, holy shit, this is a fucking great script. I would totally watch this movie. You know, like I hadn't gotten there yet, and I still haven't gotten there. You know, like I've never written a script that I would wanna see a movie of. When I was in, I'm almost positive
Starting point is 01:05:42 this was my freshman year in college. I took a short story writing class. And this was like, you remember when you were signing up for classes in freshman year and you were like, I cannot believe I get to select a class when I write short stories. This is so fucking great. Yeah. I was so pumped for it and I get in there. And the teacher has a fucking scarf and it's 90 degrees out.
Starting point is 01:06:05 It's like that sort of class. Like it's peak English class. And everyone in the class is super serious and like their short stories are like, they were meant to be published in something that wasn't mixweenies. And I wrote a short story that was basically a short action movie.
Starting point is 01:06:30 Like I basically wrote Taken as a short story. And we all had to share our stories in class, like we all had to read our own stories in front of everyone. I have a very particular set of skills that makes me a nightmare for college professors like you. I'm like eighth on the day in reading. And I've heard, I've heard eight different versions of like, of stories of lost loves and death of parents and like and like adulterous adults and we finally get to me and like three paragraphs in a guy has popped the emergency exit on an aircraft while it's in the air and is like and has turned his seat into an airsatz parachute as he's like hurtling towards the ground.
Starting point is 01:07:27 The looks on people's faces in this class as I read that stupid fucking story. Here's the you want to hear the the the Damnedest the damningest of fate praise that you could possibly hear after that was the the the the that you could possibly hear after that was the the the the best-gharved professor holding the four beats after I finished my story and going well short stories can be about a lot of things class They certainly can teach. Pretty brutal. Good times. Well, Ben, one of the best times of any podcast is when we express our gratitude for the people
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