The Greatest Generation - Quantum Cliff (ENT S1E26)

Episode Date: November 4, 2024

When the Entrepreneur arrives to make contact with a matriarchal culture, their careful shuttlepod approach results in blowing up the damn colony. But when the crew is in shock and can’t explain wha...t happened, Daniels takes Captain Archer time traveling to prove their innocence with evidence from a cloaked Suliban ship. What needs to be added to the whiteboard at New Star Trek HQ? Which character is starting to give serial killer vibes? How should Archer break the news to the Paraagan home world? It’s the episode that makes a strong case for sex tourism.Support the production of The Greatest GenerationGet a thing at podshop.biz!Sign up for our mailing list!Follow The Game of Buttholes: The Will of the Riker - Quantum LeapThe Greatest Generation is produced by Wynde PriddySocial media is managed by Rob Adler and Bill TilleyMusic by Adam Ragusea & Dark MateriaFriends of DeSoto for: Labor | Democracy | JusticeDiscuss the show using the hashtag #GreatestGen and find us on social media:YouTube | Facebook | X | Instagram | TikTok | Mastodon | Bluesky | ThreadsAnd check out these online communities run by FODs: Reddit | USS Hood Discord | Facebook group | Wikia | FriendsOfDeSoto.social

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Starting point is 00:00:00 Tickets to the stream of our second contact show in Madison, Wisconsin are now on sale, but let's be real, everyone's getting tickets to all three of our streaming live shows. Because it's a fantastic deal. At 30 bucks you get access to hilarious video streams of me and Adam returning to roast and review TNG episodes, The Survivors, Sub Rosa, and Conspiracy. Plus, if you're a MaxFun supporter, you get 10 bucks off that already low price. These live shows are super fun. You can stream them right to your living room TV. During the premieres, Adam and I and the rest of the gang from Uxbridge-Shemoda hang out in
Starting point is 00:00:33 the chat and goof around, and it's a real hoot. Once they've premiered, each stream will be available through the end of the year. So even if you miss a premiere, you can still catch all three. Get access right now at greatestgen tour dot com. Here's to the finest crew in Starling. When it comes to my crew, you won't get any argument from me. This is a parody. Paramount owns the song. Welcome to the Greatest Generation.
Starting point is 00:01:03 This is a Star Trek podcast by a couple of guys who are just a little bit embarrassed about having a Star Trek podcast. I'm Ben Harrison. I'm Adam Pranica. How you doing, Adam? Feeling good. Feeling good and strong. That's reassuring.
Starting point is 00:01:20 Yeah. That makes one of us. Yeah? I feel like maybe you're feeling good and strong because of what's in your body. And what's relishing in your body. Oh, I have no idea what you mean. Oh, so you're playing dumb on the nubbin bug thing.
Starting point is 00:01:41 Oh yeah, you know what? I have not gone for the old neck rub in a while. They can make it look like you have a nubbin without actually getting one, right? Yeah. Nubbin bugs almost sold out at this point. Our financial and creative boondoggle appears to be a great success. We talked about this a little bit on social media
Starting point is 00:02:10 and I wrote a little thing about this for our newsletter. But I thought we should probably talk about the Nub and Bug project a little bit more on the show actual. Yeah. Because we mentioned in the spring of last year that we bought the rubber mold that they made the bugs from conspiracy out of. And how fitting that we would be right at the end of a season of Enterprise when we're
Starting point is 00:02:37 talking about this episode that came right at the end of a season of Next Gen. of, of next gen, but yeah, so that weird parasite from season one TNG, we own the mold that they cast the little animatronic, I guess it's not an animatronic, right? It's like a. It's a stop motion. A stop motion puppet, I guess, would be the term. We sent it off to a company called Volpen Props in Atlanta.
Starting point is 00:03:04 They scanned in a very high resolution digital scan of it. And then my understanding is that they made a, like a plaster cast of the mold as well for archival purposes. Right. Because at the time it was just about preservation of the mold. Yeah. And I thought at that moment we'd get like a brownie pan version of it or something and have a thing to mess around with.
Starting point is 00:03:30 At no point did I ever think that we'd get into the production of more nubbin bugs. But very quickly that's where the conversation went because Volpen in doing the cast was like, you know, what you do with the cast is you make more nubbin bugs. And they sketched out, you know, what production would take and when production could happen and sort of described what the process was to us because I don't know about you, Ben.
Starting point is 00:04:00 I'm not familiar with the creation, construction and delivery of props. At the scale we're trying to move them. Seriously, this might be the most nubbin bugs that have ever existed on planet Earth at one time, which is very troubling for anyone that's like, worried about, you know, the upper echelons of Starfleet Command.
Starting point is 00:04:20 But, yeah, it was a wild project and we kind of were like, well, I guess we're making these because like we have to fucking make them. This kind of is the origin story of these second contact shows. Like it's sort of the nubbin wagging the show dog. We wanted to revisit conspiracy and talk about it. We didn't just want to put these in Podshop.biz. We actually wanted to do a show where we could talk about it. We didn't just want to put these in Podshop.biz. We actually wanted to do a show where we could talk about them
Starting point is 00:04:49 and get them out in front of people. And so kind of working backwards, we were like, well, we want to go back to London Podcast Festival and maybe do another show too. And that's where we got our three second contact shows idea from. So that's what's been going on in the background. That's why the Nubbin bugs came into existence
Starting point is 00:05:07 Yeah, it's been such a fun project Like I think we will just have had our our LA live show and that will also be Streamed later on a stage pilot show and along with the rest of them Yeah, and tickets for that all three shows are still available. I can stream all three of them until a little while after the premiere of the LA one, which will be in December. So you got plenty of time to get tickets at greatestgentour.com if you would like to see this. But we're going to make a little documentary about the creation of the bugs featuring some
Starting point is 00:05:42 footage that they captured at the prop shop during the process. And looking through this footage has been so fun. Like I have a photo on my desktop of like dozens and dozens of nubbin bugs lined up with like framing screws in them to hold them up while they're painting them so that the paint isn't getting all over everything. It's so cool to see.
Starting point is 00:06:03 It's like, it just tickles me pink. As pink as a nub and bug every time I look at this stuff. Anyways, I guess this is all just to say thanks to the Friends of De Soto for enabling us to have a weird job that enables us to make totally unauthorized reproduction nub and bug toys for everyone to buy. There's no authorization to give, Ben. Yeah, we own it. It's ours.
Starting point is 00:06:29 Authorization Picard 47 Alpha Tango. Yeah, pretty excited to see these start to get out into the world and do terrible and terrific damage to the leadership class of the entire world. Yeah. Speaking of terrible and terrific damage, today's episode of Enterprise is one that starts and ends with terrible and terrific damage. And it doesn't even just affect the leadership class. It's everybody catches it.
Starting point is 00:06:59 So do you want to get into this episode, Adam? Can't wait, Ben. It's the season finale of the first season of Star Trek Enterprise. It's episode 26 and it's called Shockwave, part one. So we are headed to a planet. It's not the original planet of the Paragons, right? It's like a colony of theirs, but the Paragons are described as a matriarchal society and this is going to be a first contact of humans with these people.
Starting point is 00:07:38 Some excitement, some curiosity, matriarchal you say. That's interesting. Probably the best if we didn't get too flirtatious. Probably. Yeah, they aren't used to visitors. What exactly are they hiding? What would the harm have been in this being an Angel One colony? You know?
Starting point is 00:08:01 I think that TNG episode and what happens in it is the harm. Ha ha ha. Well, you never see them. I just... and what happens in it is the harm. Well, you never see them. Wouldn't it have been fun if Archer and Trip had been like, well, we do have to put on the customary garb of their gentlemen to make this a respectful visit. I don't believe this. You're going to put that thing on
Starting point is 00:08:18 and parade around like one of them? You know, there's gotta be a whiteboard at New Star Trek HQ just with a list of What are we calling back? Why can't we call back the deepest V of an angel one? Oh V so deep that one nipple is out. I know I know Archer is shirtless in this episode, you know, he's down to clown, you know I love how trip just sort sort of talks around the edge of this maybe not
Starting point is 00:08:50 being the best place to visit for a crew that has had the adventures that they've had somewhat recently, interacting with other cultures and species. Indeed. I might reflexively want to do fewer away team missions, I think, going forward, until we can figure this whole thing out. We can figure out what's going on. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:09:14 Yeah, they're in like the captain's mess and they get a message from the bridge that they're in orbit. And to Paul asks if we've gotten the landing protocols yet. And I was like, oh, fun, cool new business, landing protocols. Makes sense, right? Like probably when an airplane is going to an airport, it's not used to there's there's stuff that they have to talk to the tower about.
Starting point is 00:09:38 Oh, sure. And that's all I was thinking, you know, I have to admit, I, I backed up this section because I missed it. And the reason why is I was thinking about how this colony went from 30 inhabitants to 3000 inhabitants in 20 years. What's going on here seems a little incestuous. Doesn't it? You're saying that 30 showed up and they got busy.
Starting point is 00:10:12 Yeah. Wow. They don't explain it in dialogue. What exactly are we supposed to think about this? This is what I was thinking about when they were talking about the very flammable atmosphere that they're going to have to land in. So I missed that part.
Starting point is 00:10:25 Yeah. I think your take is funnier that when you start a colony you just close the door behind you and nobody else is ever allowed to come. Yeah. Only the people down there are allowed to come. Oh, but you're thinking the very obvious fact that this is not a closed society to themselves because we're told early on like the Paragons don't have visitors, but visitors from Paragon Prime or whatever are welcome to come and fuck. Right. The Paragon fuck tourists are welcome and frequent visitors based on the math I'm doing in my head of how you go from 30
Starting point is 00:11:05 visitors based on the math I'm doing in my head of how you go from 30 to 3,000 in 20 years. But maybe they're like those types of fish or insect where they lay thousands of eggs and they've just been very fecund. A lot of them have survived on this new colony. I bet. So the shuttle pod gets launched and it heads down to the surface and reads at the controls and Archer and Tripp Tucker and T'Pol are in the back and as they're descending through the atmosphere they're keeping a real close eye on the concentration of tetrazine gas
Starting point is 00:11:39 in the atmosphere. This is important because this is really flammable stuff and so they're being super careful not to ignite it and wouldn't you know? They ignite it and this atmosphere blows big. Oh man. It sure does It's basically the dream sequence from Terminator 2 where Sarah Connor holds onto the chain-link fence It's 3,000 people holding on to 3,000 pieces of of chain link fence being blown away by this atmosphere. Now, do you think these are 3,000 individual fences
Starting point is 00:12:10 in this case, or are they like, and each one is looking into a playground that overlooks downtown Los Angeles? 3,000 fences make 3,000 good colonist neighbors in my mind. You know what it reminded me of was about where I stopped watching the movie Oppenheimer when they're worried that this might be a thing that they could trigger accidentally by testing the weapon that they've been developing. Do you ever go back and finish the many, many, many movies that you stop watching less than halfway through,
Starting point is 00:12:48 or are they just dead to you at that point? I don't know. Like, I don't really remember that much about it. So I feel like I would have to watch it again from the beginning to really get the full experience. You have a friend of the Hollywood film industry, Benjamin R. Harrison. Yeah, I paid for my ticket, you know?
Starting point is 00:13:09 Yeah. By which I mean I streamed it. Ben pays for his ticket and he only needs it for half the time. Yeah, they should charge me half at movie theaters. Yeah. So after this, we're in Sixth Bay, Reed is just devastated from having killed all of them everywhere.
Starting point is 00:13:31 Yeah. And I guess Tripp got a bonk on the head. Is he the one on the slab? Yeah, how about this mood in the room? Very different from any other episode of Enterprise so far. People are upset. They do a lot of good stuff with just like hand-held camera to like make everything feel frenetic and scary.
Starting point is 00:13:51 And yeah, like it's a really tough feeling in there. It's hitting them all pretty hard except for T'Pol. I thought T'Pol's like non-reaction to 3,600 people just being vaporized for no good reason. It was very interesting. This is no time to be placing blame. A thorough investigation should explain what happened. It reminded me of that scene in Some of All Fears after the nuke goes off.
Starting point is 00:14:14 And the aftermath is like a presidential cabinet screaming at each other on the ramp to Air Force One. Like that kind of aftermath where it's human nature to kind of freak out about a terrible thing. That's what's going on in Six Bay. It's intense. 3,600 dead, we see the planet from orbit and it's all gray in stark contrast
Starting point is 00:14:38 to its beautiful blues and greens that we saw in the opening sequence. And on the bridge, Archer kind of shows up and he's like very bummed out, and they're still trying to figure out what happened. And nothing adds up really. They are looking at what the gas concentrations were, and it seems like the landing protocols were extra super conservative about when you shut off your plasma things and the plasma things were closed when
Starting point is 00:15:07 When they did this so it doesn't make any sense Yeah, either individually or in totality right the whole mix of these facts don't add up and They're looking through every Censor log trying to figure out like how they screwed up this badly and Archer's like, well, I gotta go tell the boss. I gotta go FaceTime with Admiral Forrest and tell them what happened because probably like we're, we, what we have probably done is triggered like
Starting point is 00:15:35 an interstellar war, right? These ladies are going to be pissed. In my mind, I'm just thinking of all the ways in which a captain who is me plays this with Admiral Forrest instead of Archer. To what extent do you hold back the information that implicates you as the cause of this terrible thing? How vague and nonspecific can you be in this moment
Starting point is 00:16:03 was what I was thinking. Because if you're Archer, you're all the way out there. Admiral Forrest isn't close to this. Our weapons guy, Reed, you may remember. I think we might need to talk about sending him home and like bringing someone else out. Scapegoat Reed. No one likes that guy.
Starting point is 00:16:23 I mean, no one really likes Archer either, but Reed is worse. Archer is in the position to do the scapegoating, is the advantage he has here. How interesting would this episode have been if the tension is between Reed and Archer, and for the sake of the entire mission, the spacefaring mission by human beings. Reed must be convinced to take the fall for this. Right. Like your head's got to roll. I don't like it any more than you do. Yeah. Look, you got a second career exploring Earth's deepest oceans or whatever. Like, come on. You can do what your parents always wanted you to do.
Starting point is 00:17:04 Like we've basically got some of the finishing touches on perfecting human society, getting done right now. Like, you could retire and just, like, shoot guns and eat pineapple all day, for all I care. I'm not really enjoying what you've done tactically thus far, and I think swapping you out might be a good idea for us and our defensive capability. And he just, like, beans him in the face with a water polo ball. I know it's such a rough game
Starting point is 00:17:29 Yeah, cuz that's what you got to do to get rid of someone or something that you care about Ben. It's a real Go on get out of here Kind of move, you know Archer throws a rock that he found on the bridge at Reed and his station. Come on! Why was that there, Captain? You can't be here anymore!
Starting point is 00:17:55 You gotta go! It's just clarinet case after clarinet case. ["Legally It's Just A Fart Joke"] after clarinet case. I thought Admiral Forrest was kind of surprising here. He's like, I got to tell, you know, the command council. They're probably going to tell the Vulcans. Yeah. It's probably not going to be pretty, but I don't think you should feel bad. Like you guys did everything right from the sound of it.
Starting point is 00:18:26 He says that before they've even like really run the investigation. He is trying to cheer Archer up and make him feel less guilty about this whole situation. I mean, what can't make him feel good on any level is the idea that Archer feels like he's got to call the Perogan home world and tell them what happened. And I'm thinking he should probably phone bank this, right?
Starting point is 00:18:52 Like, because we're talking about 3,000 families. A lot of people will need to have that, you know, look out the window and see Archer's shuttle pod coming up the drive. Yeah. And collapse in the frame of the door because they already know what the news is going to be even though they haven't heard it yet. Yeah. I regret to inform you that your daughter and I mean, probably your daughter, right? From what I've been told about the matriarchal society, like I'm just going to presume this. Here's what I've got. I've got a standard definition DVD of
Starting point is 00:19:28 Terminator 2 Judgment Day. You can kind of see what it was like for them at the end. I find that a lot of relatives find closure when they're able to see exactly how their family member died. He's holding the DVD the way you would hold a folded up flag and he's like, on behalf of the president and a grateful nation. I regret to inform you, your daughter was not wearing 3000 SPF sunscreen
Starting point is 00:20:00 and had a pretty bad fucking day. DePaul is really not sure what to do with the way the humans, and specifically Archer, are dealing with what has happened. And she goes to flocks to be like, hey, it seems like almost a medical thing, the way they're acting right now. And he's like, no, it's just totally human to be really sad when you accidentally murder 3,600 people, you know.
Starting point is 00:20:30 It's an interesting thing. When you work a normal job that isn't military or spacefaring or whatever, you can expect to take some time off to deal with your shit, right? But captain of a starship doesn't really get to do that Yeah Any job that isn't military spacefaring or podcast because you got to put a fucking episode in the feed every week I know every time we've never taken a mental day either of us and I think shows. I think that's evident at this point, yeah. I think FODs can tell that we're kind of working things out on the show to various degrees.
Starting point is 00:21:15 Dr. Flux has an interesting take here, a take that's, I think, in keeping with his whole vibe. It's just human nature to act like a human during these moments. And it's not like instructions for T'Pol to chill the fuck out about things. It's just, he's perceiving what's going on a little differently than how she is.
Starting point is 00:21:37 Did you get the feeling that it was distinctly not Denobulan nature? Like if Phlox had been at the controls of this shuttle, would he not be taking it super bad? I think this episode would be very different if Phlox were at those controls. And the entire shading of the emotions of this moment would be like, why is Phlox just fine? I'm starting to get serial killer vibes from Dr. Flux. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:22:08 Are Denobulans just super chill with Megadeth? Is that... I mean, because it is interesting that it's specifically Reed at the controls, right? It's not Mayweather, who is like the main pilot on the crew. And it's not one of those other guys that we've seen pilot shuttle pods on this show. It's Reed. And with those examples, Ben, I think you've named characters that would really have
Starting point is 00:22:33 felt the guilt of this moment in a way that I don't think Reed really ever does in this episode. He treats it as a mystery to be solved. Yeah. And that mystery has nothing to do with his responsibility for what happened. Because he is like, deny, deny, deny. He's like, the fucking plasma manifolds were closed, mate. And, and like that's his story and he's sticking to it, you know? Yeah. Nothing you can tell me will change my mind on that. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:23:02 So in Archer's ready room, he's doing that thing where he's watching the scroll of dead faces on a computer while clutching his dog. That's a thing you do every time there's a moment of mass death. Gotta do it. Talk about the absolute worst time for Admiral Forrest to call, but that's what's happening.
Starting point is 00:23:22 Unfortunately, we don't see this conversation because we're back on the bridge right away and Reed has found borocarbons left behind on the planet. And that's not a surprise because when atmospheres explode in a massive wall of flames that kills 3,000 people, more or less simultaneously, borocarbons, the things left behind. And nothing about what he's found so far has absolved the shuttle pod from being the cause of this accident. Arthur just kind of like stomps through and grabs Tripp and T'Pol and heads into the clarinet closet.
Starting point is 00:24:03 Did you hear what was playing here when he stomped onto the bridge? T'Pol. Oh, I think I missed it. Trip. The single brass instrument of unintended mass extinction events. This is a different spin on it, huh? Yeah, I guess it is.
Starting point is 00:24:20 Mission canceled. Cancelled? They are being recalled to Earth. The Vulcans will be picking up to Paul and Flocks. Flocks does not get to cycle back to that hospital he was working at in the first episode. And boy is Trip cranky about this. Let's talk a little bit about why we hear this
Starting point is 00:24:39 for the first time from Archer instead of Admiral Forrest. Because I was genuinely surprised to hear this, were you? Yeah, I think it hits harder coming from Archer. And the way Scott Bakula performs that is that this is the disappointing outcome that he was sort of expecting was how I interpreted it. I think my problem with it is that I want to know Admiral Forrest a little bit more than just the command and conquer general screen, like with lips flopping, giving you the orders about the enemy.
Starting point is 00:25:19 I wanted a little bit more personality from him or to know him a little bit better. Yeah. Or to hate him a little bit better. Yeah. Or to hate him for this decision, you know? Right, because he's also not the captain who's had the mare this far up his ass all morning because of what you did out there, Archer, you know? Why is Admiral Forrest eating a sandwich using tissues as napkins?
Starting point is 00:25:42 What am I supposed to use? Is a question you don't have to ask because you don't see the conversation. Don't. We're turning the ship around, heading back and Tripp is very cranky. What do you think about T'Pol in this scene? Because she's in soft focus in the back,
Starting point is 00:26:01 but she looks sad. She does look sad. She's, you know, downcast. I wondered in the moment, is it not that she's sad, but she doesn't want to, like, get involved in all the messy human feelings that are happening in her presence? Like, it's just not comfortable to be around it when the humans are acting the way they act? I mean, I bet. I bet they smell different too.
Starting point is 00:26:26 Oh yeah, like the pheromones we give off when we're Trip angry. Ugh, yeah. Trip seems surprised, right? Like Archer, I feel like sort of saw it coming and Trip was like, what? No way! How many strikes has Trip Tucker had
Starting point is 00:26:43 in season one of Star Trek Enterprise though? Like, he's a cat with 90 lives. He's lucky that Archer wasn't like, yeah, so Reed was piloting and pretty much mostly his fault, but Trip also should have checked that those plasma doors were working, like triple check before we did this tricky landing maneuver. Maybe swap both those guys out, you know? Yeah. It's shocking because at the end of this scene,
Starting point is 00:27:09 the order is given, turn the Enterprise around, we're heading home. And like leaving the scene of this incident is like, like if this crew were the crew of the Enterprise D, during the most toys, like Data would be sitting in the chair starting now, and would be sitting in the chair starting now and would be sitting in that chair forever. That is your place of honor. Yeah, so, you know, we cut around a little bit,
Starting point is 00:27:33 like, Hoshi is pretty optimistic that she gets to get back to what she was up to at her old job. I'm a prodigy, remember? I think it's Mayweather that's talking about how, like, the news, like, the media has been super negative on the entrepreneurship project overall. Yeah. And has been portraying this mission as just them going out into the galaxy and making a bunch of enemies for the human race and screwing up left and right, which I loved.
Starting point is 00:28:02 Yeah. growing up left and right, which I loved. Yeah, it's interesting how, like, it's quite natural, I think, to talk about what's next for you. This seems like an inescapable situation for everyone involved on the ship. Like, we're going home, what's gonna be next? And Hoshi and Mayweather have very different expectations for what's next for them. She's trying to cheer him up, right? You probably can do anything you want on one of those
Starting point is 00:28:29 boring-ass ships that takes years and years to get from place to place. And Mayweather is framed as kind of the happy-to-be-there crew person. It's a bummer to see him so bummed about the possibilities for himself going forward. The thought of a cargo ship is pretty unappealing. Just jacking it in the bunk of a freighter on its 15-year mission or whatever. Pounding his football. Yeah, yeah, that's no good. I can do the parody. Speaking of bumming out with a ball in your bed, Archer is screwing around with his water
Starting point is 00:29:14 polo ball and T'Pol comes in. Wait a second, Ben. What was Archer playing with? Oh, he was playing with a water polo ball, I believe. Really? Yeah. A water polo ball, you say? I think it was something like that.
Starting point is 00:29:30 Well, T'Pol doesn't want to play catch with him, but what I want to do, Ben, is play holo! Come on. Hololo-fio! Oh, boy. I told you, best sport in the world. One part basketball, one part swimming, and one part wrestling. I didn't know it was such a rough game. Ben, got a very special game today. I've been doing really badly on this game, so special is good, I think.
Starting point is 00:30:01 Our contestant on the show, Benjamin R. Harrison, a Star Trek podcaster from Oakland, California. And today's game is a three question quiz, Ben. Multiple choice where you must decide if the answer to the question is the sports of water polo, the fragrance of polo sport, or the beloved baseball mascot the San Diego chicken? First question Ben. Okay. Which of these things was briefly banned in Iran in 2011 due to its perceived association with Western culture? Was it water polo? Was it this fragrance polo sport or was it the San Diego chicken mascot? Nothing could be more Western than a baseball team from the West Coast of the United States and therefore it has to be What was his name? Mr. Chicken? The San Diego Chicken. Okay. The San Diego Chicken.
Starting point is 00:31:07 Final answer, Ben? Yeah, I'm locking it in. Wrong! Water polo... Fuck! ...was banned in Iran in 2011 due to its perceived association with Western decadence.
Starting point is 00:31:23 A very decadent sport, I think. I'm gonna have to side with Iran decadence. A very decadent sport I think. I'm gonna have to side with Iran on this one. All three of them are decadent you know. Yeah but I guess in the contest of what is the most decadent, Conan what is most decadent in life? Water polo is the answer in 2011. I think it's very brave of you to side with the Iranian morality police on an issue. It's true. Haven't been reading the news very much lately. Yeah, I'm sure that by the time this episode comes out, that will be totally cool and funny and nice for people to hear.
Starting point is 00:32:01 Next question, Ben. Put these things in chronological order of their creation. OK. Same things, water polo, polo sport, the San Diego chicken. So what came first, what came next, what came last? Just like in the order of invention? Yes. OK.
Starting point is 00:32:22 I mean, the San Diego chicken as an idea feels like it could be ancient, right? Like as far back as the Spaniards colonizing Southern California. I'm pretty sure there are depictions of the chicken on cave walls. Yeah. Chiseled with ancient tools. So I'm gonna go with that.
Starting point is 00:32:44 As the oldest, I mean, polo sport got to be named after the horse game and not the swimming pool game. One would assume. Because it would have more chlorine notes in that context. So I'm going to put that next and then water polo. Dead last. That feels like a modern invention. Okay, final answer? Yeah. Wrong!
Starting point is 00:33:18 Ben, water polo was invented in the late 1860s in Great Britain with the first official rules established in 1869. The San Diego Chicken made its debut at a San Diego Padres game on June 29th, 1974 when Ted Giannullis was hired by a radio station to wear the first version of the costume. And finally, the Polo Sport Fragrance was launched by Ralph Lauren in 1994 as part of their expansion into the sports fragrance market. 94? How did I forget that? I know. Fuck!
Starting point is 00:33:47 Ben, were you wearing fragrances in high school? I dabbled with it in middle school, but they all make me sneeze, so it was a pretty short-lived experiment. I was briefly a Hugo Bossman. Oh yeah. Final question, Ben. Oh, there's more.
Starting point is 00:34:05 Which of these has been involved in the most legal disputes since their creation? Water polo, polo sport, the San Diego chicken. Boy. The most legal disputes. It's such an interesting question because like the amount of ball hits that happen. That's what I'm saying.
Starting point is 00:34:29 Reputedly in water polo has got to be astronomical. You've got to imagine there's some- 150 years of ball hits. Yeah, some legal disputes there. That mascot seems like, you know, a real no good Nick, if you will. I mean, is the San Diego chicken milkshake chicken? I mean, at this point, who knows? But then again, like the IP of Ralph Lauren's signature scent being, you know, like, based on a game that Ralph Lauren
Starting point is 00:35:07 just kind of uses for the vibes. He has no real connection to it. Big vibes guy, Ralph Lauren. I'm gonna go with the scent. Something smells like it might be the scent. Final answer, Ben? Yeah, let's lock it in. Wrong! God damn it. Yeah, let's lock it in wrong
Starting point is 00:35:31 Ted Giannis as the San Diego chicken has faced multiple lawsuits including a trademark dispute with the radio station that first hired him a copyright claim from Barney the dinosaurs creators and Various other legal challenges the other options had relatively few legal issues in comparison. Wow. And here's a fun fact for you, Ben. Ted Giannullis is recovering from a hip replacement surgery that has sidelined him for the entire baseball season. Oh man, so he's on the injured list? I know.
Starting point is 00:35:59 Dang. Kind of wild. Feel better, Ted. Also injured... My pride? ...is your career record playing the game Polo. Polo! Or Pollo.
Starting point is 00:36:13 That was humiliating. I didn't know it was such a rough game. Anyways, EM's signature was detected on the hull of shuttle pod one. And Archer's like, yeah, I mean, like that's cool, but who gives a shit. And Tapaul's like, Hey man, snap out of it. Like you need to go back and argue affirmatively for the future of the space program and not be such a little weenie about this. I'm going to go back and tell the, the Vulcans that they can go fuck themselves.
Starting point is 00:36:44 If they think that they're putting human spaceflight on ice for 20 years. You should be doing the same. Like speak up for yourself. Have a little bit of backbone here. Are you guys vertebrates, technically, humans? How'd it make you feel to hear someone say this, Ben? It's very interesting.
Starting point is 00:37:01 I've been reflecting on it quite a bit. Interesting ideas, yeah. Not that I'm gonna do anything about it, but you know, it's very interesting. I've been reflecting on it quite a bit. Interesting ideas. Yeah. Not that I'm going to do anything about it, but it's in theory fascinating. I'm surprised that it's not just a, you got to defend yourself argument, but it's a, even I'm defending us. Don't make me do this by myself, Archer, is kind of the vibe here. Yeah. And I like it. I think it's a good scene for T'Pol. I agree. So the next scene is in Six Bay and it sort of felt in this moment, like Tripp was just trying to pick a fight with Phlox.
Starting point is 00:37:35 Like he's there to nominally help him pack up all his shit before the Vulcans pick him up and take him home. There's a scene of on-camera closeness where he is screaming at Dr. Flax in profile by the end of it. And Flax is just such a cheerful guy. He just kind of lets the screams roll off his back. He doesn't take the bait. He is just filling box after banker's box full of containers of screeching animals during this scene.
Starting point is 00:38:06 It's very fun. Yeah. Very frustrating for Tripp. Like he came here for one thing and he did not get what he wanted. Dr. Flux's vibe is immaculate and it appears to be only his. Like of all the crew people, he's just like, I'm riding the wave of whatever this life is and I will be fine. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:38:29 He didn't go to earth with the intention of becoming the chief medical officer on a spaceship, so this was like a cool, weird diversion for him and that's what he's here for. Dr. Flax makes me happy. He's going to be okay, no matter what. Yeah. It's nice to think of him out there being okay, no matter what. Yeah, it's nice to think of him out there being okay no matter what. Yeah. Faith of the fart.
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Starting point is 00:42:19 Maximum Fun. And you will never take the greatest gin alive. Ben would rather die. Back in Archer's quarters, he's wearing his sleeping blues when he turns out the light. But when he turns it back on, he's in a bedroom somewhere on earth that looks like a better than mid-market city hotel room. Like with a step up into bed, that's nice. That's like four or five star situation right there.
Starting point is 00:42:51 You know rich people have tall beds. Tall beds on step ups? Yeah. Hmm, that's how you break a hip. They have good insurance though, you know, who gives a shit? We learned that this is his apartment and he's getting a call from Trip Tucker.
Starting point is 00:43:06 Isn't that sad to realize that his decor style is like as impersonal as this? It doesn't surprise me whatsoever. He's like a real housewife of Utah or whatever. He's like, really, you live in a place that just looks like nobody lives there? Like you don't have family members' pictures on the walls or any personal items anywhere? Yeah. The decorations don't say single 48 year old man.
Starting point is 00:43:33 They definitely don't. The way that I would have expected. No. Maybe this is like an alternate apartment he has for seducing babes, you know? Yeah. They don't want to see his like model airplane collection. They don't want to see case after case of baby oil that he keeps stored there. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:43:54 Why a thousand water polo balls and a thousand bottles of baby oil. What's that about? A party guests find out. So Trip Tucker's on the blower and based on the conversation he has with him, all of this has happened before and that's because all of these events happened exactly ten months ago and he blows in a call to Starfleet Medical and he asks about Dr. Flax and this is the conversation that confirms the timeline for him. Because Starfleet Medical doesn't have a clang in there as a patient and that timestamps the moment.
Starting point is 00:44:31 This is well before a cornfield was blown up out in Oklahoma or whatever. I love when he talks to himself and he's like, there's no way the last 10 months have been a dream. And I was just like, yeah, everything on this show is really happening. None of it is an illusion. It's fiction. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:44:50 We made it up. Daniels appears as if a dream, right? Because he's supposed to be dead. Daniels. Or whatever. This must be very disorienting. I apologize, but I have no choice. In fact, he has time traveled himself and Archer into this moment because nobody will look for them here so that he can tell Archer. He's like, take a look around you, Archer.
Starting point is 00:45:13 This entire apartment is so bland and uninteresting. This is the very last place anyone would wanna be to begin with. Even if they could think of you being here, they wouldn't wanna risk being here themselves they wouldn't want to risk being here themselves looking at all this boring ass shit. You remember that scene in Star Trek Picard where the Romulans look into the well
Starting point is 00:45:33 and then they break each other's skulls with stones? Yeah. That's what just being in here for a moment makes me want to do that. It's the home of a very boring man. Yeah. Very boring man. Tim Maher.
Starting point is 00:45:49 So great news, the Paragon colony disaster, not their fault. In fact, it was an attack in the temporal cold war that was blamed on them. And Daniels knows this because there's no record of it in the history books where he is. And he's like, all right, this is gonna be intense. I don't have a lot of time.
Starting point is 00:46:13 Listen to me carefully. Fade out. This is an episode that has a bunch of these scenes. You're never gonna believe what I'm about to tell. When we come back, we realize that by, You're never going to believe what I'm about to tell you. When we come back, we realize that by I don't have a lot of time, Daniel's meant like I only have a few hours to go over like some quantum tunneling technology and a bunch of like coordinates in space and stuff because we have a McLaughlin group.
Starting point is 00:46:43 Issue one. This starts with Reed having found a wooden shoe cloaked on the underside of the shuttle pod's hull. Hence the word sabotage. And then Archer is like, okay, here's what we're gonna do. We gotta turn the ship around. We're heading back to where that colony was. We gotta build this quantum tunneling technology.
Starting point is 00:47:04 We got so many things to tunneling technology. We got so many things to do, very little time. Hoshi, I need you to scramble the radio so we can plausibly not be in touch with anyone and go. What are you all waiting for? This feels like that moment two-thirds of the way into Groundhog Day, where Bill Murray's character is so practiced at his day, that he just knows everything and everyone and what they need to do at that specific moment. It is a very different Captain Archer
Starting point is 00:47:34 than we've ever experienced. It's really intense. And still, Andy McDowell will not fall in love with him. Ha ha ha. Could you blame her? Look at her. She's Andy McDowell. Yeah, but have you ever been on a perfect date with someone who did and said everything exactly right? First date with my wife, Adam. Look at us now.
Starting point is 00:47:57 Amazing. So Tripp and Archer talk over the schematics of these beacons that Tripp has to build. And Tripp is like completely wowed by what Archer is telling him about it. I think that low key the most impressive part of this is that Archer got this stuff verbally from Daniels and remembers it all. Yeah. I mean, at my advanced age and declining health, like could you imagine remembering Daniel's name after the first time you met him? What the hell? Pretty impressive by Archer here. Also why isn't Daniel's actual doing this?
Starting point is 00:48:41 Did you ever put that together? It seems like Daniel could be the one having these conversations with Tripp and everyone else. Yeah. He never goes to the entrepreneur. He never goes back to his room. He's always talking to Archer in a different time period than this. Which seems to like kneecap the chances of mission success here because you're sort of, like you're giving Archer all the information, but you're also making him seem kind of crazy to the people around him in a way that could hurt your, your mission.
Starting point is 00:49:09 Because he keeps doing that thing that drives me nuts in Starfleet Captains, which is give an order that is on its face, totally implausible to a subordinate and saying, I don't have time to explain why. You know, they go into Daniels' room. They're only supposed to look at his computer for specific information about this stealth Suleyman cruiser. And he and Reed find the gadget and there's like all this great stuff in it. And Reed is really tempted, but Archer is such a fucking boy scout.
Starting point is 00:49:40 They don't get any other information. There is just a giant flesh light. Like they open up a couple of cases before they finally find the puck with the data, like more sex toys than you would imagine for a time traveler. Right. And, and yeah, you, you come to realize that in the 31st century, uh, men have either evolved or treated themselves
Starting point is 00:50:01 to be significantly better endowed because the size of this fleshlight is truly staggering. It's like what you use to cover up parking meters when they're out of service. Wow. We catch up with Tripp in engineering. He's built these beacons and they pretty soon are at this moon in a nearby star system, shining them on the surface. And it reveals the SulaBan ship and a little like built
Starting point is 00:50:37 into the cliff side space station for the ship to dock with. How badly did you want a perspective shift to the Sulaipan ship? Because great idea as a place to hide. You have superior technology, so the cloak should shield you. Just the moment on their bridge when they see Enterprise appear has got to be baffling. Guys, are we all seeing this?
Starting point is 00:51:04 You can't assume that it's nothing as soon as this ship shows up on scene, right? Well, they don't. They start charging weapons. And pretty quickly, Reed has sucker punched them, knocked out their engines and stuff. And then he uses one of their stupid ass torpedoes and also shoots the SulaBan ship with that. I lost so much money betting on a miss here
Starting point is 00:51:29 in live betting Star Trek Enterprise. As soon as this thing got launched, I was like on my phone, miss, miss, miss, miss, miss, miss. All I do is bet, bet, bet. Brutal. It was interesting to see you find a rebroadcast of an episode of Star Trek Enterprise at the Sportsbook in the Venetian. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:51:51 Yeah. Amazing how bed-able this episode is. So they take a pod down. It's Archer, Tripp and T'Pol. They like throw a flashbang into the next room from where they've docked and knock a bunch of Sula-Bahn off the ceiling. I love just the sequence of angle on someone throwing a grenade, cut to bodies falling into frame as a consequence. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:52:29 That's so fun. It was great. And they do, again, so much dynamic handheld stuff with the camera as they do this raid through the SulaBan ship. And they, I think, find the SulaBan engineering and like Shimoda a bunch of memory chips out of a computer. Incredible. Yeah. Then they're escaping with those memory chips
Starting point is 00:52:52 and they're like getting surrounded by Suleyman. They get air cover from Reed. He's able to pinpoint a hallway that is near to where Archer and the gang are and knock even more of these Sula-Bans off the ceiling. Really fun moment. Like when, when the camera's pulling, like you're describing, like to see both on ground and on ceiling Sula-Ban.
Starting point is 00:53:14 Yeah. It was a fun, how do you think they did that kind of scene? It's neat. Yeah. Yeah, it was really neat. They finally make their way back to the shuttle pod and they need to rip themselves off of Yeah, yeah, it was really neat. They finally make their way back to the shuttle pod
Starting point is 00:53:25 and they need to rip themselves off of the docking clamp. And when these Sula Bons spill out, I was like, that's executive decision right there. It was executive decision. It was so fun. It was executive decision to them. Yeah, really great. Oh man, we should do that for Gravestrick Film Festival.
Starting point is 00:53:46 Is there still time? Yeah. A sort of Steven Seagal movie? Yeah. It's like a head fake Steven Seagal movie. Yeah. So yeah, they blow the connection. Now they head back to the ship and run as fast as they can toward the Vulcan ship that was supposed to pick up
Starting point is 00:54:05 to Paul and Flax. It's a real like run to mom skirt, you know? Yeah. After you get into a fight on the playground. Like we can't defend ourselves against these Suleyman and maybe the Vulcans can, we gotta hope. What they have found on these disks that they stole is what I would describe as an orgy of evidence.
Starting point is 00:54:26 They have like all of these surveillance photos that the SulaBahn took of the entrepreneur. There's a scene of the shuttle pod like rounding the corner in black and white footage. And like, why does the shuttle pod not have its roof on? Like a guy opens up an umbrella and the lawn behind, like, that's weird, it's a sunny day. What's he doing that for?
Starting point is 00:54:55 Yeah. The footage is mysterious and damning. Yeah. When the Suleyman shuttle disconnects from the earth shuttle pod, why does it go back and to the left? Maybe one day we'll find the answers, Ben, once they're unsealed from the archives. Archer reports this to Forrest and Forrest is like, great news, very few follow-up questions.
Starting point is 00:55:18 Sounds like you're totally exonerated from this whole horrible debacle. If you live long enough, you should tell the Vulcans. Who can maybe get you off the hook. Yeah, but we cut over to the Suleybon station that we've seen a couple of times, and Cilic is in that weird, phasy room talking to the shadowy man in the Column of Light. And that guy wants Cilick to bring him Archer and let the
Starting point is 00:55:50 entrepreneur do the rest of its mission. Like don't destroy that, but bring me Archer specifically. Yeah. Cause that's what Sillick wants to do. He's like, let me blow that fucker up. Just take it off the board. And the shadowy guy's like, no. Ben, do you know who the shadowy guy is without telling me? Like, have you
Starting point is 00:56:08 watched enough Enterprise to know? If it is ever revealed, I don't remember. I feel like he's Starfleet. Just by the way the pants interact with the footwear, it kind of looks like that uniform spread pant leg thing of a Starfleet uniform. Is it like the Cold War is Starfleet on Starfleet? Like a cold civil war? Cold temporal civil war? I hope it wasn't that easy to guess. But yeah, I think that's where my mind is at this point.
Starting point is 00:56:38 Interesting. So back on Enterprise, Archer tells to Paul about what Crue and Daniels has done for their mission. At this point, after so much, he finally makes with the Crueman Daniels information. And she tells him that maybe you should leave out all the time travel stuff when you explain what's going on here to the Vulcans. Because I got to tell you, as a culture, the Vulcans do not appreciate time travel as an explanation for things.
Starting point is 00:57:10 It's not going to go over super well. And he's like, how could you be so skeptical at a time like this when I have given you evidence after piece of evidence that I am operating with special information from Daniel? It's like, how do you explain it aside from time travel? And she's like, all I know is that the science directorate has determined that what you're saying is impossible. And I'm gonna go with them on this one. Interesting choice to not create a situation
Starting point is 00:57:38 where Archer asks T'Pol, like, you believe me, don't you, T'Pol? Like, there isn't that tension between the two characters. It's never brought up. It's as if Archer doesn't care or already knows the answer. And I don't know what that answer is. Do you think T'Pol believes him? I don't know.
Starting point is 00:57:57 Yeah. I feel like he would only know if Daniel's told him ahead of time. So Reed calls in and interrupts them with some strange readings they're picking up. And back on the bridge, Archer asks, what's up with that? There's some warp field issues that the ship is having? Well, Archer and Keenan both ask that question.
Starting point is 00:58:20 Yeah. What's up with that? What's up with that? Unlike Keenan, Archer seems to really smell a knockdown rat. He thinks that this is probably a Suleyman thing, so he's like, fire those guns up, let's get ready, and fire up those beacons. Let's see if we can poke through their cloaking fields. And it is revealed that there is just a fuck ton
Starting point is 00:58:45 of Suleyman pods all around the ship. Why wouldn't you just run the beacons full time? I don't know. I'd kind of want those things on. Like it's sort of like having a full-time black light around you. Yeah, maybe it's like something you don't really want to know.
Starting point is 00:59:01 Yeah, that's fair. I think I answered my own question. Yeah, like if you're dating guys in their twenties, like you just don't want to know. Yeah, that's fair. I think I answered my own question. Yeah, like if you're dating guys in their twenties, like you just don't want to know, right? Yeah, you don't want to know how often they do laundry. So, Sillick gets up on the FaceTime and he's like, get in, loser, we're going temporal cold warring. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:59:19 He wants Archer and Archer only to get on the pod that he's sending. Archer only to get on the pod that he's sending. Archer leaves to Paul in command and his parting request is that she keeps an open mind W slash R slash T impossible time travel shit. And he leaves and when he gets off the turbo lift, he's no longer on the entrepreneur, but he's in a like hallway with a lot of metal framing
Starting point is 00:59:48 spars that are bent out of shape. Kind of a lot of girders have fallen in this spot, it seems like. On Enterprise, everyone's confused. Where is Archer? Silex on screen. That's like, interesting play by Captain Archer to not show up for the ship that I offered to him in exchange for not blowing up Enterprise. So I guess I'm gonna have to do that. He and all of his ships start targeting the
Starting point is 01:00:17 warp core. Yeah. And we cut back to Archer and he's like in this fucked up apartment and Daniels is there in his crazy like all ropes time travel outfit. Slicked back hair too. I wonder if something happened to his parents. Oh shit. Yeah. Poor guy. Kind of sad to think about.
Starting point is 01:00:40 Because he's like, this is 10 minutes after the destruction of this planet. I guess is is it Earth? He starts imprinting on Archer immediately because of his dead parents. He's like, hey, uh, Dad, I mean, Captain Archer, do you... I'm sure we can find a shallow pool of dirty water to play water polo in, right? You want to, you want to have a game? Can I stay with you? It seems like this is taking Daniels by surprise too, right? Yeah, that's the thing. The mood is weird because Archer's totally baffled by his circumstance, but so is Daniels. All the time portals here have been destroyed.
Starting point is 01:01:20 Couldn't send Archer back if we wanted to. Yeah. And we end this episode on a Star Trek First Contact scale pullout from these two guys standing in the window of this skyscraper to reveal the scale and scope of the devastation on this planet. Right. Did you like this episode, Adam? it. Right. Did you like this episode, Adam?
Starting point is 01:01:54 Just thinking about that last moment, is the thing that would make you feel more past death or future death? Because there's something about like Daniels is like, yeah, this is the 31st century and this skyline is is ordinarily very beautiful. It's one of the best skylines on the entire planet and it just sucks. It's been not only has it been destroyed, it's been destroyed for a long time. And like you're you're given a sense of the scale of the destruction and it seems like global. It seems like shit is bad. Like the cliff we're hanging off of is archers trapped in the deep future without a way to get home.
Starting point is 01:02:31 Is that the top line bad news or is it the scale of future destruction and death that we're seeing? Because maybe this says a lot about me. I cared very little for the idea of a 31st century city destruction and I cared far more about like, oh fuck, Archer's stuck in this wasteland now, that sucks. Like, isn't it weird that like theoretical future death
Starting point is 01:02:57 that far out is like kind of nothing? Right, it's like, feels irrelevant. Yeah. I mean, it feels like it's of a piece with Archer being stuck there. So, like, maybe the solution to one problem is also the solution to the other. But yeah, I think that, like, especially in the context of an episode where 3,600 people died at the beginning,
Starting point is 01:03:17 and we really felt it with a lot of these characters, this, like, unknowable number of faceless people later doesn't hit quite as hard. By describing it, it's just a really interesting and unusual cliff to be hanging from at the end of a season. Enterprise has weapons trained on it by the Suleyman and it seems like it's going to get blown up. But in a story construction that seems out of time, it also defangs that moment too, because were this mystery able to be solved
Starting point is 01:03:55 and archers able to get sent back, like time on the timeline is such that like, you can always go back to an earlier point to save enterprise. So is enterprise ever in danger with the ability to time travel? Yeah. Am I both on the cliff and not on the cliff? Right. It's like a quantum cliff.
Starting point is 01:04:16 It is. Where you have a superposition of both being a kid and not. And for dramatic story purposes, does that kind of defang your cliff a little bit? I think that when we find out that there's no time travel machinery here, it felt like the cliff was real. So it worked for me. Okay.
Starting point is 01:04:38 I liked this episode. I mean, time travel is not my favorite Star Trek thing. I think I'm very relieved that we get to watch the next episode quickly. I think I'd be a little bit miffed if I had to endure months and months of waiting. Sure. After this type of cliff, which as cliffs go, like on the Mount Cliffmore, which is just a. It's just cliffs. Which are just like all the best cliffs from all the cliffhangers on Star Trek.
Starting point is 01:05:06 I don't know if this one makes the cut. I don't know if this one's up there. Okay. Interesting. Well, do you want to see if there's any mountain-worthy Priority One messages in our inbox? Oh, yeah. I'm going to clip myself to that, Ben. Priority One message from Starfleet coming in on Secure Channel.
Starting point is 01:05:24 Need a supplemental income. Supplemental income. Supplemental. Supplemental. Yeah, it's extra. By the interest alone, could be enough to buy this ship. Adam, our first P1 is of a promotional nature. It goes like this.
Starting point is 01:05:41 Remember the giant human Horgan and his hot Ryzen handlers from Star Trek Las Vegas? I sure do. Of course they are a polycule, and no, they don't want you to join. I wasn't asking! When you go to Star Trek Las Vegas, should you just assume polycule? I wasn't thinking that, I just thought they were nice people Yeah, but I don't want it to be assumed that I want to join I think I you know have your nice polycule. That's not it's not for me. That's for you. God check out the polycule ego on this person geez Nicole Daniel and Laurel want you to listen to their podcast
Starting point is 01:06:27 Nicole, Daniel, and Laurel want you to listen to their podcast, Polyamature Hour, a variety show for people who love variety. There will be jokes. There will be questionable advice. There will be horny commentary on the Keiko, Kira, Miles, Julie, and Garrick love quadrangle. Satisfy your consent, kink, and learn why Denobulans smile so much. Oh, I have wanted to know that. So the call to action here is search for polyamature hour in your podcatcher of choice. And polyamature is one word with the intercapitalizations of capital P and capital A.
Starting point is 01:06:59 Tell all your partners slash bridge crew about it. I know we have lots of poly folks in our audience. Lots of friends of DeSoto are poly folks and I think they will be curious and if you're poly curious in general but not yet practicing, sounds like another good demo to check this out. It just fucking figures that when you're walking around Star Trek Las Vegas you run into other podcasters Every time yeah, I mean at least it's not a Star Trek podcast specifically then our next message is of a personal nature. It's
Starting point is 01:07:36 to bean Adam and Roger cook I'm gonna assume a mistype and maybe it's Ben. Oh yeah, maybe. Maybe Bean. If you were a character in So I Married an Axe Murderer as like the kid of the Mike Myers. Move your head Bean! Bean! Fence!
Starting point is 01:07:59 No! This message is from Matt and it goes like this. I've just finished S3 of TNG on TGG. I'm loving the Veto the Veto bits. I thought it might be nice if the boys from this old enterprise could wish a nice RSVP to Roger Cook from the original This Old House Show. Can we do bits on deaths? I guess that's what Matt wants here.
Starting point is 01:08:25 Yeah, RSVP Roger Cook. We stand a real one. Yeah. Why don't you plant something nice in Roger Cook's memory? That sounds like a good thing to do. That's how Roger would have liked it. He was really great. And, you know, we just had a parasocial relationship
Starting point is 01:08:44 with him, but really loved him for all the years of work he did on that show. And if you dig in a grave, you're going to want to make sure to dig well through the frost layer. I was starting with a potting trowel to make a nice quadrangle shape and then we're gonna move on to a larger post digger to get the corners and then a regular shuffle, flathead shuffle to dig out the remainder of a six-foot hole. We're gonna use those same shovels after we form a line In order to one by one drop a little dirt on the top of the coffin of our beloved friend
Starting point is 01:09:33 We're going to hell our last P1 is from proud dad David in Tampa and it's to baby J It was like this just a little P1 to celebrate the birth of a beautiful little darona. Is a my darona drop too much to ask for? Sweet Baby J, can't wait for you to be slightly embarrassed by my love for Star Trek and this highly embarrassing podcast. Maybe one day you'll be an embarrassed Trek fan too. Love your dad dad David. Hey, happy birthday, baby Jay. Yeah, happy birthday. That's pretty fun. God, the request for a personalized drop.
Starting point is 01:10:12 Yeah. Is it too much to ask for? ["My My My"] Makes me a Coney yum in the dive and David Jay always has to clean it up. My, my, my. Yeah, woo. Bye, Dorona.
Starting point is 01:10:31 That was great. Was that on the spot? Yeah, I was just trying to think of some baby specifics for David. I'm just never thinking about meconium. Good poll by you. All right, well, if you'd like to get a P1 message on the show, you know what to do.
Starting point is 01:10:50 You head to maximumfun.org slash Jumbotron and set it up today. Hey Ben. Ooh, what's that Adam? Did you find yourself a drunk Shimoda? Incredible. Drunk Shimoda. I'm gonna give it to Tripp for that scene
Starting point is 01:11:06 where he is like very angry and clearly just wants to get in a fight with somebody and he chooses Flax of all people. Yeah. Maybe he does it because like Batman and that police commissioner, Dr. Flax can take it. Ha ha ha ha.
Starting point is 01:11:27 Yeah, he really can. Flux is very resilient in that way. So yeah, I think Tripp is going to be my Shimoda for this episode. Even though Archer was the one that was actually pulling isolinear chips out of a machine in this. I mean, I'm going to make mine Archer for that scene as he's like kind of slow walking off of the bridge after making the decision to give himself over to the Sullivan. Like his whole vibe is so confident that he's not going to die and that the enterprise is going to be safe. It seems crazy to me, like right on down to the, take care of my dog or whatever, like, don't feed him cheese.
Starting point is 01:12:05 Like I presumed that he was going to go die. Sort of seemed like he was going to go die. Incredibly strange vibes from him on the way out the door. But maybe this is just about preserving some morale, giving the rest of the crew some hope. I don't know. Yeah, like Admiral Forrest did say that thing about like, they're going to be looking to you for like, how to feel about this or whatever. Great call.
Starting point is 01:12:28 So maybe that's what this is. Yeah. Well, Adam, that is the end of our coverage of season one of Star Trek Enterprise. Let me tell you a little bit about our next episode. It is season two, tell you a little bit about our next episode. It is season two, episode one, shockwave part two. Daniels and Archer must find a way back to the 22nd century in order to make sure history plays out as it should. Meanwhile, on board the Enterprise, the Suleybon have taken over the ship,
Starting point is 01:13:01 but Reed, Tripp and T'Pol formulate a plan to eject the aliens. Oh, that's an unusual word for that situation. Yeah. Huh. Why not eject us? We want to be ejected into space. Star Trek. Are we sure that the SulaBan can or cannot live in the vacuum of space, given their Miriam genetic mutations.
Starting point is 01:13:26 I feel like we have seen Cilic like survive a quick trip. That's what I thought. Yeah. Yeah, I think they're probably fine. They're gonna be good. That's why we saw them Steven Seagal out at the bottom of that hatch. Yeah.
Starting point is 01:13:38 Yeah, those guys fell onto the ground and just got up and like dusted themselves off. Yeah, they're fine. 300 foot fall. They're just fine. All right, Adam, I'm going to head to gach.biz slash game where we keep the game of butt holes. The will of the Riker, quantum leap.
Starting point is 01:13:59 Our runabout is currently on square 79. Nice. We could go anywhere. So I'm gonna roll this bone. You're required to learn as you play. Roll. And go somewhere we did, Adam. I have landed us on square 99.
Starting point is 01:14:19 All aboard! That is a Naomi Wildman square. This is, I think this is the first time we've ever hit this square. Amazing! Each host must make a piece of artwork representing the episode and share it with the other and post pictures.
Starting point is 01:14:38 Wow, what a great thing to do. I'm excited. Yeah, I'm gonna be getting some of Dorone's crayons and stuff, probably. And I don't know, maybe I'll glue some macaroni to a piece of paper. God. I mean, you got to leave some macaroni for me. We've got a childless household over here.
Starting point is 01:14:57 I got to do with the arts and crafts supplies that I got. Maybe I'll make a diorama in a shoebox or write a song, you know? That's exciting. Wow. I could write a song and have have the goose score it for me. I don't know. A piece of artwork. It could be anything. Yeah. That's exciting. Good roll by you. I'm excited for next week's episode. I also want to say a sincere thanks to all the friends of DeSoto, especially the ones who support at MaximumFun.org slash join. We enable this whole situation to keep happening. So maybe think about that.
Starting point is 01:15:35 I don't know. That's as declarative as Ben is going to get. Got to thank Windy Pretty, our producer, for all of her hard work. And Bill Tilly, our temporal Cold War time consigniary. Got to thank Rob Adler, who is our social media director, running the greatest trek social media accounts. Follow us on whatever app you use. Chances are pretty good we're on there posting stuff. Repost it, you know?
Starting point is 01:16:05 Leave a nice review in Apple Podcasts. Do something to help the show that doesn't cost you a thing. You want to follow these accounts if you want to see the art that we make for the next episode, don't you? Good call. Yeah. Got to thank Adam Ragusea, the aforementioned, for his amazing parody of Diane Warren's original Enterprise theme. We've got to thank Dark Materia for our original theme music
Starting point is 01:16:30 card song. With that we will be back at you next time with another great episode Star Trek Enterprise, an episode of the greatest generation Enterprise that is feeling really creative as it turns out. Yeah, just an adult with a creative hobby. Like getting paint by numbers. It's fun, it's very relaxing. Yeah, it's okay to relax. Alright, don't forget to vote tomorrow. Make it so. Make it so. Make it so.
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