The Greatest Generation - Queso Vision (ENT S3E24)

Episode Date: October 20, 2025

When Captain Archer leads a dustbuster club onto the Xindi weapon, Tucker and T’Pol stay aboard the Entrepreneur to destroy the network of spheres. But after the Guardians serve up too much space qu...eso and an old friend arrives to help, Archer blows up the weapon and disappears into a new story arc. Which siren song isn’t that hard to resist? Who knows how to party like Klingon warriors? When is it clear that Hoshi is feeling better? It’s the episode that explores our ambivalence towards florescent lights.Support the production of The Greatest GenerationGet a thing at podshop.biz!Sign up for our mailing list!Follow The Game of Buttholes: The Will of the Riker - Quantum LeapThe Greatest Generation is produced by Wynde PriddySocial media is managed by Rob Adler and Bill TilleyMusic by Adam Ragusea & Dark MateriaFriends of DeSoto for: Labor | Democracy | JusticeDiscuss the show using the hashtag #GreatestGen and find us on social media:YouTube | Facebook | X | Instagram | TikTok | Mastodon | Bluesky | ThreadsAnd check out these online communities run by FODs: Reddit | USS Hood Discord | Facebook group | Wikia | FriendsOfDeSoto.social Hosted by Simplecast, an AdsWizz company. See pcm.adswizz.com for information about our collection and use of personal data for advertising.

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Starting point is 00:00:00 Here's to the finest crew in starving. When it comes to my crew, you won't get any argument from me. This is a parody. Paramount owns the song. Welcome to the Greatest Generation, Star Trek podcast by a couple of guys who are just a little bit embarrassed about having a Star Trek podcast. I'm Ben Harrison.
Starting point is 00:00:23 I'm Adam Pranica. You feeling better after your five shots? Yeah. What happened? after that. I didn't have any brod. I didn't have any like, I did that raw in a way that I haven't in a long time. Yeah. And then some, some buds were out getting drinks at you Rustic Inn. I love that place. So I went and got wings and drinks with the boys. How do you get your wings at the, at Ye? Oh, I wasn't there when they got ordered. I think they were just a pretty
Starting point is 00:00:54 traditional buffalo wing. Well, I mean, famously, and this is L.A. Space. But in a way that I feel like any restaurant that makes and sells wings should do, you get to choose your doneness slash crispiness level at this particular restaurant. And I really like that. Yeah. Man, yeah, I wasn't there for that part. I did a thing where I went in and I was like, oh, somehow I'm the first one here. And I sat at the bar for like half an hour. And then I was like, you know, I should probably check. And it turned out that they'd been sitting in the side yard, which I didn't look in. Jesus, Ben. The one place I didn't look. Ben, when you arrive at a social gathering, like, that's part of the job. You got to do the full circuit. I had done five shots, I will remind you.
Starting point is 00:01:45 Okay. All right. This is starting to make sense now. That's five shot Ben sitting at the bar continuing the journey. What do you order after five shots when you go to a bar after? I had two tequila sodas, and then I coasted into the evening with, maybe it was like a PBR or something in a can that was, you know, crushable. There is zero percent chance I'm having more liquor after five shots.
Starting point is 00:02:10 I'm cruising right into Madellos after that. Your capacity astounds me. The thing to keep in mind is that the five shots happened between the hours of 2 and 3 p.m. And my hangs started at, I mean, for me, it started at 7 and then really started in earnest closer to 7.30, 7.45. Oh, sure. When I discovered my buddies. Did you see a bottle of 99 bananas on the wall?
Starting point is 00:02:35 And did it give you a special feeling? Yeah, the siren song was hard to resist, but I did it. And I woke up pretty clear-headed after all that, amazingly. That's great. Yeah. I love that. It shouldn't be a punishment. It should be a reward.
Starting point is 00:02:52 Yeah. I mean, like, I was telling my wife, like, yeah, I got a weird thing I have to do on the show today. don't worry Adam's doing it too And she was like, why do you do this? That's important to say And I was like, that's the point of a wheel of fate You know, like there's got to be good things and bad things There's got to be things you want to do
Starting point is 00:03:10 And you know, fate doesn't always work out in your favor As is evidenced by everything surrounding us You know what? Message to your wife, who I know isn't listening to this program Never would. Why do you do this is a question that kind of goes without saying It could apply to so many things related to our show and each other. Yeah, yeah.
Starting point is 00:03:34 It's a question that just works across the board. And there is no answer. There's no good answer. That is also a question I had at the very end of today's episode of Star Trek Enterprise, Ben. Coincidentally, do you want to get into it so we could get to that part? Because I got a lot to say about Enterprise Season 3, episode 24. Zero hour Got free speech
Starting point is 00:04:00 and guitar Dolham and the boys are getting ready for their big triumphant moment by chowing down on some live mice lizards love this shit man You gotta do mouse shots Yeah
Starting point is 00:04:16 At this point What do you think Because there's a cut, right? They pick up the wriggling I don't know if these are mice Maybe they're like baby guinea pigs or something, but there's some kind of live rodent, and they pick them up, and then there's a cut, and they're lowering, like, jello stunt rodents into their mouths and, like, giving their hands a little quaver so that it looks like the limbs are moving. What do you think those are made out of? Do you think that that's actually jello, or do you think it's just, like, a rubber thing that they're putting into their mouth and then spitting back out?
Starting point is 00:04:48 The problem is the hair or the fur, right? like it's one thing to make the jello mold mouse it's quite another to give it the texture of an actual mouse sure I think the one disappointment about this take is that like less than half of it I feel like goes in to the mouth I want to see it go in I mean I've always wanted to see it go in generally when Riker does this maneuver it goes in you see
Starting point is 00:05:14 you see everything I want it down to the base of the tail yeah yeah this is just too big of a mouthful. Like generally, mouse or not. I hate that moment where I'll occasionally do this where it's just too big of a bite. And then you're caught like you're at a, you're at a table with friends or whatever and you're like trying to play it off like it's not too big of a bite. Yeah. It's always with friends, right? I don't think this happens to me when I'm eating alone. No, never. No. It's so fucking humiliating. But these lizards are freaks and they like doing it in front of each other.
Starting point is 00:05:50 Yeah. And I thought this was a really interesting scene because they're like kind of talking shit about their gods. Like the guardians have been, we've come to understand that the guardians are godlike figures in the lives of Zindy everywhere. And they're like, finally, they're coming to their senses and putting us in charge of everything. But just sort of a, like, man, like you are lucky a guardian wasn't like listening in on
Starting point is 00:06:18 your little conversation, you know? That's a little bit sacrilegious. That's a great point. I didn't really consider how omniscient the guardians might be in cases like this. They seem to be doing a fair bit of complaining about, like, if only the guardians were on our side during the Civil War, we would have won that. Yeah. And yeah, like that's...
Starting point is 00:06:40 Our brothers, the avians would still be alive. I mean, if only Biff had had the sports almanac, you know, four. Forever and ever. Like, if only, you had the cheat code to your life. Exactly. And, you know, I think they're bad for saying that. I think this is the thing that's finally turned me against the reptilian Zindy. I like to see them party.
Starting point is 00:07:05 I think it's, I don't want to say humanizes, because that's a word I shouldn't throw around when we're talking about the Zindi, especially the reptiles. Why, the very name is racist. You know what it does for me is it clingonizes them? It does. the way Klingon warriors do. You know what I feel like we haven't gotten a bunch of with Zindy reptiles is the wide shot
Starting point is 00:07:26 where it is so noticeable that they are wearing potato sack style pants. They don't want you to see legs on these Zindi. Their costumes are big. Yeah. Degger's ship is chasing the weapon and Archer and Reed and some Makos and Hoshi are aboard.
Starting point is 00:07:48 it. And they're talking to the remaining counselors about how they just really hope they can figure out a way to destroy it from the inside. Unfortunately, Degra left the password on on his computer when he got murked. So they're like, oh, yeah, we have schematics for the weapon in here. We could look up, we could get like an internal map of it, no problem, if we knew his four-digit code, but we don't. Such a bummer. You don't think if you're Degra about to get stabbed in the chest by Dallum, about closing that window. Yeah. About putting your laptop to sleep during.
Starting point is 00:08:30 It would be kind of grisly, but it would have been smart for them to cut off the head of his body when they found it so that they could face ID into the ship and like get access to these things. Very true. Yeah. Or just a thumb. Like maybe there's a fingerprint thing. If you're already eating living mice. and dropping them into your mouth. There isn't a lot of gap between that and Dallum holding up a head by its hair.
Starting point is 00:08:59 Yeah, but this isn't Dallum, and that's the crucial difference. Like the arboreals are not going to hold up a head. No, they're not. No. We would never do something like that. It's disgusting. Almost as disgusting is my breath, because I cannot close my mouth. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:09:18 You can smell rot coming out of my mouth, and that is not my fault. That's just the way, you know, that's the hand evolution dealt me. I am 100% mouth breathing. I kind of add to the disgustingness by carrying around the severed head of my former colleague. I am also no longer sunburned. Have you noticed that? For one episode, I was very sunburned, and now I am not. The aloe we have access to here in the expanse of a.
Starting point is 00:09:48 particularly high quality. A lot is made about Archer making sure Hoshi is involved in the master plan. Problem is she is still messed up. Yeah. He's going to go give her an iPad
Starting point is 00:10:04 with this encrypted data on it, give her another encryption project, and in white space the sphere builders slash guardians slash transdimensional beings are freaking out.
Starting point is 00:10:19 They are so stressed that the timelines are still not going their way even though they've launched the weapon like the one main lady is like, come on, calm down. Like I'm doing my job and the rest of them are like, no, you're not, we're looking at the timelines, we're looking at how it works out, and it does not.
Starting point is 00:10:35 I know exactly how this feels, Ben. Cut to yesterday, I have bet heavily on the Green Bay Packers to beat the Cleveland Browns. Cleveland Brown's an absolute dog shit team. Even Brown's fans would say this about their own team. Packers up 10 to nothing with five minutes left in the game. You think we're just going to run the clock down. You think they got
Starting point is 00:11:00 this one in hand. Thirteen points in the last five minutes. Packers inexplicably lose. What the fuck? This is how the guardians are feeling in this moment. They're like, look, we've got a lot of bets on the board. And like, even though the weapon is getting closer to Earth, we have noticed that the odds are getting worse for some reason. What is happening right now? We can't let the Browns win. Like, that drive to Vegas to like, to like settle all these up is not going to be fun, you know? There's no settling when you lose, Ben. It's just over. Oh, it's just over? There's no drive. Oh, because you put the money in at first. You're not, you're not promising to pay. Try to imagine a world where sports vetting was IOU-based.
Starting point is 00:11:49 Oh, man, the chaos. It is among friends, right? Like, if you're, like, sitting watching the TV with your buddy and you say 20 gets you 40, the X happens, like, you're not expecting them to give you the money right then and there, right? Oh, I think among my friends, that's the expectation. Okay. We're pretty serious about that. All right. enough. I, you know, I spoke of something that I have zero familiarity with. We'll get you
Starting point is 00:12:17 involved, Ben. You'll be one of us soon. Just what I want. So our Earthship, we learn from the Guardians, is heading for their primary sphere. We thought it was just sphere 41. I know. This is the primary sphere. Who knew? And they're like, all right, well, that's also a huge problem. So we're going to have to whip up, like, quite a bit more queso around that one to stop them from messing with our main guy. Over on Enterprise, Tripp Tucker, I want to say, is our main guy over there, right? He tells DePaul that their plan of using the deflector dish is still a go, except that once it's shot, it's going to fry every system on the ship almost completely.
Starting point is 00:13:01 And Topal is like, fine, whatever. What are you telling me this? Like, yeah, of course, right? And Tripp is like, no, not whatever. And DePaul tells Tripp, look, man, this is not all about Earth or Enterprise anymore. Like, this is about the galaxy. And that includes Vulcan. I got to tell you, if anything ever happened to Vulcan, I would be so pissed.
Starting point is 00:13:25 No one can destroy Vulcan. Do you hear me, Tripp? No. I am now a member of an endangered species. I felt like a lot of the imagery in this episode reminded me of Star Trek 2009, like the fight on the platforms inside the sphere later where they're like falling down levels and stuff yeah and this idea like she goes full soap opera talking to him about this the emotions are all on the outside for this scene very much so and the idea that this is very much a domino effect
Starting point is 00:13:54 across the galaxy yeah maybe hits home for trip i don't know i think this this message is more for us than it is for trip yeah like he's feeling selfish about blowing up the damn ship and not wanting to be on it when that happens. And I can relate to that, too. On the bridge, Mayweather tells Topal that the sphere they're heading for is doing some weird stuff. The density of the space caseo is entree-sized at this point. And Topal's like, okay, thanks, Mayweather.
Starting point is 00:14:26 Well, you're not going to be in this episode that much. So I'm going to go talk to Flock's about it, not you. And down to Six Bay, she goes, where Flock's is. is worried about this because it's the same problem they had when they went through the queso before. Their consciousness could get scrambled, and he's got an injection that they can get, but it doesn't buy them that much time inside the queso, not as much as Topal feels that they need. I have gone to my shelf where I have a variety of medicines given to patients so that they will last 12 minutes, just generally. 12 minutes of time
Starting point is 00:15:06 normally an amount of time that a patient would be happy with and in this case is the same Do you remember how Hoshi looked when she was in the shower that was far too hot for her? You're all going to start to look like that oh gosh I keep forgetting
Starting point is 00:15:22 you weren't actually conscious during that period of time if you were a fragment of my imagination I apologize to Paul In this scene I was positive there would be another plan This could not be the plan, the 12-minute plan, I mean. Yeah, yeah, but that's the plan.
Starting point is 00:15:39 It is. And I've got faith of the far heart, legally it's just a far joke. Cut over to Archer visiting Hoshi, who is also going through with a plan that I cannot believe is the plan. Hoshi wrapped in the blanket of someone who has just had a mental parasite taken out of their brains. but also the blanket of someone who works in an office that is you know temperature regulated to too cold for them and everybody else is seemingly fine with it so they just have to have a full fucking blanket at their at their desk
Starting point is 00:16:17 Archer has done a lot of dark things over the course of this season and of the series but maybe the darkest I don't know why this felt so dark to me but when Hoshi asks for a doctor and Archer's like no no you don't need a doctor Rub some dirt on it, Hoshi. Get back in the game. I'm not sure what I'm supposed to be doing. There are no sick days at this moment. We left flocks behind ages ago.
Starting point is 00:16:45 You need to finish what you're doing. I thought Linda Park did a really good job portraying somebody who is not just, like, sick and fucked up, but, like, disoriented. Yeah. Like, there are parts of this scene where she thinks she is talking to. a lizard Zindy and there are parts where she like remembers what she did for them and is like racked with guilt
Starting point is 00:17:12 and Archer is sort of pitching her solving this cryptography problem as like a way to atone like oh you feel bad about like giving up the third code well you do this and you know nobody's going to hold it against you do you get the sense that she's
Starting point is 00:17:31 ever going to be okay from this experience? I mean, Dr. Flock says it'll take time. Yeah. But, Lordy, once there's a parasite wriggling around in your brains, I just don't know. Yeah, she does not seem in her right mind, and it is hard to see coming back from a state like this in this moment. Dallum's on board of ship, shocked that they'll be dropping out of the vortex a little further from Earth than he was expecting
Starting point is 00:18:01 and that's because they need time to enter the firing sequence of this big weapon they've got since they only have three out of the five codes if they had all five they could get a lot closer and fire a lot sooner. What is that about? Like, I thought that the three codes were just enough yes votes that the weapon will work.
Starting point is 00:18:20 I thought the same thing. It feels like the rules changed. Like, is there also like a puzzle that you have to do? I mean, it's, seems like with a weapon like this you could still shoot from further away yeah what is really the problem here what's the range on this thing yeah and like just write it so that it's like yeah the weapon is like fucking huge and it takes a while to fire up dollom like you know that that makes more sense to me this thing is huge it's got a lot of energy you can't just flip a switch and have it be ready to go it needs to be primed yeah tell me your priming
Starting point is 00:18:58 it's got trellium in it I mean wait oh no what's the other stuff there's a different substance that the ape man was making for them it's not trellium that stuff yeah yeah it's full of that stuff and that stuff just doesn't turn on on a dime we filled it with the spray you use when you have dry mouth
Starting point is 00:19:17 that is what we make on the planet in the lab it's actually strange to think about but this is the largest bonaca delivery system the world had ever seen on Enterprise or in engineering where Tripp tells Mayweather that he's going to have to steer the ship by thrusters only that's the consequence of
Starting point is 00:19:37 doing the deflector dish weapon and once they get near the sphere because destroying the sphere will take all this energy that's all you got buddy hope you're okay with that hope you're okay with thrusters and no dialogue yeah yeah I thought Travis
Starting point is 00:19:54 Mayweather was looking really good in this scene because he's also got the after five shadow No. Just like being back in the war. Who are you? Insom Travis Mayweather. Parents must be very proud. When I was a kid, you called it the sweet spot.
Starting point is 00:20:08 Who are you? I'm the houseman. I guess growing up a boomer has its advantages. And your mom, very proud. That's true. Takes practice. Other than keeping Anthony Mayweather up at night, I'm not sure what we expect to accomplish here.
Starting point is 00:20:21 I feel like with a little definition around his mouth, just like, hmm, looking good. The problem when I, grow facial hair and I'm putting that in quotes is that I just look dirty like I don't look like I'm growing facial hair I look like I got crud on me
Starting point is 00:20:37 you fall into some crud or something this is what is true of a lot of the Enterprise crew but when Travis grows a little bit of facial hair he looks he looks very distinguished in my opinion yeah on Degger's ship the group goes over the plan to beam onto the
Starting point is 00:20:52 weapon ship and we learn that Hoshi will be taken with the Dust Buster Club over there too Because she's been there. She's like familiar with the layout. There's no decrypting for that. I think it's one thing to hear Archer say this in private, but to like in the context of a pre-mission meeting say it to everyone.
Starting point is 00:21:14 No one feels good about this, Reed especially. There's no reason to believe that she'll remember anything. She's coming with me. Reed doesn't feel good at all. Like Reed's feeling about the way the vibes are going is tanking. And he's like, maybe I, can just like scratch an itch i've always wanted to scratch by convincing archer to let me suicide by destroying weapon at the end of this thing and archer's like no man you're going to you're
Starting point is 00:21:39 going to leave with everybody else i'm staying behind but i'm not going to die on that weapon anyways i got to go talk to hoshi and he leaves the room and finds himself in a like stadium style ribbon cutting ceremony on the foundation of the United Federation of Planets. This is a scene that's supposed to show seven years into the future. Archer, having just walked out of this meeting where he proposes bringing a drooling Hoshi along on the mission, a little bit distracted in this moment. He has a boarding party to deal with. He doesn't want to watch some sort of like administration, let alone be told that this
Starting point is 00:22:23 administrative pomp and circumstance, in this stadium is going to be put in danger. He's feeling very don't give a shit vibes about this moment. I've got other things to think about right now. Daniels, did you not listen to the previous scene? He just said he has no intention of dying. You don't need to talk him out of dying. With what we see later with the Guardians,
Starting point is 00:22:44 like actually getting personally involved with time travel mechanics and fucking shit up, did you ever have in the back of your mind the feeling of like, why being so passive, Daniels? Like, why don't you get in there and get your hands dirty, you fucking asshole? It seems like Daniels has access to better time travel technology than the Guardian's, right? Agreed. Yeah. Like, just go in there and fuck shit up, Daniels. You got this.
Starting point is 00:23:11 Yeah. Yeah, he's frustrating to me. Yeah. But maybe part of it is that Archer needs to be like an untouchable hero to everyone in the Alpha Quadrant for, or accomplishing this or something. So it's very unclear, and Archer basically tells Daniel to kick rocks. Like, I'm going to do this mission the way I think I should do this mission. There's nothing about the future that you can tell me, like even the stuff you're not supposed to tell me
Starting point is 00:23:39 that is going to persuade me to change my plan. So get fucked. This moment is trying to portray Archer as so instrumental in the founding of the Federation that to lose him during this mission would put the entire future in jeopardy and that would be bad. But do you think the show does a good enough job
Starting point is 00:24:03 and the scene does a good enough job in making him that important? Like, we're seeing this moment and we're hearing the words at Daniel's mouth. They're trying to make him into a Kirk figure that he just isn't. Well, you know... Like, I kind of feel like the Federation would happen without him
Starting point is 00:24:22 And I can't tell you why I believe that. I just feel like if it's not Archer, someone else is going to be the guy. If he was like down on the floor and there was like a shooter up in the gallery and Archer had done like a flying leap to protect one of the dignitaries, that would make him a Kirk figure. I would like that. Yeah. Or he hits the mini tramp. Flock's is down in Six Bay recording his last will and testament to his buddy, the doctor that he's always written letters to. when Topal comes in.
Starting point is 00:24:54 Again, Six Bay being a little too easy to just saunter into, you know, this isn't a HIPAA violation. It's more of a like attorney-client privileged violation. I like this defiant to Paul. I like the DePaul that we've experienced the last couple episodes. Yeah. Because she's not trying to hear the prepare for the worst part of the proverb. that Dr. Flax shares with her, you know? She is a little bit more Kirk, honestly, in these couple of episodes.
Starting point is 00:25:30 Like, she is not buying your bullshit about a no-win scenario. She is going to fucking save the day. And she's also wearing her emotions on her sleeve in this moment. She's like, you've got to get us ready with your neuroleptic compound because the queso is about to hit the fan. I'm going to put you on the spot here. emotionally fragile Topal versus Dark Archer
Starting point is 00:25:55 who do you want as the captain of your ship for this mission? Topal all the way. I do too. I feel very safe with her throughout this mission. In a way I just don't with Archer. So they pull up to the K-So. It's family size at this point, Ben. Like when this thing hits the table, you're like, I know we're four people but this is like a platter. And there's not enough
Starting point is 00:26:20 chips. What the fuck are you doing? Like we're going to have to summon more chips to the table and like you just know that it's going to be a coagulated nightmare by the time that second batch of chips gets out here, right? Do you want to be annoyed in the next five minutes when we ask for another basket of chips? Just bring them at first. Bring them up top. This is a nightmare for everyone involved and flocks has worked the compound so it's actually going to get them 15 entire minutes in there and in they go. It's actually a lot more time than, uh, than couples tend to enjoy. It starts to, uh, sometimes it gets a little painful. If you're not ready for that. It kind of looked like a Hitachi Magic Wand, the thing that he hits to Tepal. Like a miniaturized
Starting point is 00:27:12 Hitachi Magic Wand, the kind that you would take into space, you know? Yeah. You will never take the greatest chin alive Ben would rather die We're going right into the queso at this point There's no waiting They got their 15 minutes And the clock starts now Back on Degra's ship
Starting point is 00:27:37 Hoshi has actually made some progress It seems like she is getting better She seems a lot more with it and like The blanket does a lot to suggest this, right? No more blanket Yeah, no more blanket it. She's talking to Archer about like a weird disease. She had a different time they hung out. And there's like some promises of like when we get out of this, like you can go on a vacation
Starting point is 00:28:01 somewhere where they don't have weird diseases or reptiles. This disabling of the weapon is not just about going over there and shooting a reactor and destroying it. It's about a sequence, right? Doing things at the right time in the right order because if not there's a bunch of safeguards that are going to pop up and once the safeguards pop there is going to be zero chance of destroying this weapon at that point so it's a little a little more than brute force is what it's going to take yeah i mean it seems like brute force would work if the explosion was big enough right yeah that doesn't seem on the table though yeah yeah chemocyte that's the stuff there it is in there chemo site
Starting point is 00:28:49 Keeps my mouth moist. Dry mouth very painful for me. Kumasite-flavored bonaca, available in all of your finest movie theater bathroom dispensers. Speaking of Janar, we're over on Degro's ship, and Archer is told by him and the counselor, that the Zindian Sextoid ship, not on their radar anymore. They fucked off.
Starting point is 00:29:14 It's just the weapons ship escorted by only one other ship, and that's Dallum. Pretty silly of Dahlum to not try to deceive the insectoids into continuing to work with him. He just got rid of them and now he's out there on his lonesome with just his super weapon and his ship. If you're an insectoid and you know the deal on the table is installing the reptiles as the leaders of the Zindi forevermore, yeah, I might fuck off at this point too. What are you in it for if you're them? It's true. I guess better to serve in health and I don't know. What are the motivation of the guys in Blade that like get the vampire tattoo even though they're humans?
Starting point is 00:29:58 Better to lead in hell than serve in heaven? Yeah. Is that how it goes? Better to rain in hell than serve in heaven. Is that it? Why not? I haven't seen the Blades in a long time. Oh man. We should do a Blade trilogy bonus episode series. Are they good?
Starting point is 00:30:15 They fucking rule. Are you kidding me? I have only room in my life for one vampire movie, and that's John Carpenter's vampires. After 600 years, how's that dick working? Pretty good? I reject that. So, uh, the entrepreneur flies into this case, so, uh, somebody goes and grabs the slider that affects how much red is in the shot and slides it all the way up. Yeah. If you were to dip your face in Caso that just hit the table, I feel like this is what your field of vision would look like.
Starting point is 00:30:47 Caso vision. It's the tone that your skin would be once you took it back up out of the dip as well. Yeah. We cut around so much in this episode. We're back on Dolom's ship, and they have arrived pretty far from Earth, but they're, like, delighted to see that Earth has not launched
Starting point is 00:31:07 any, like, armada of defensive ships or anything like that. There's nothing to protect the planet from their super weapon. On Enterprise, they pick up the sphere on sensors, and Tripp Tucker also picks up a rash on his hand. Yeah. Uh-oh. They're going to need a lot of moisturizer when this is over.
Starting point is 00:31:28 I'm glad this thing is just on my hand at this point, because were it to grow up my forearm, that would be extremely painful. I didn't bring any lanolin cream for cracked nipples. You're never going to let that go, are you? What's that pink stuff you're supposed to put on, uh... when you get the chicken pox what is that what is that been oh shit what is that stuff you dip a little cute tip on it and then you put it on your scabs calamine lotion is that
Starting point is 00:31:57 it is calamine lotion isn't it are we doing the rest of the episode like this dolem has found this research station in orbit of earth and undoubtedly eagriship they realized like oh shit he's gonna he's gonna shoot that thing out of the sky i like this out adalom like the whole open world video gameness of like we got some time before our big super weapon is activated right like let's let's take the pawns off the board like let's just do it because it's fun they've also been told to like go like run down any refugee alien trash of the galaxy type humans after this so like let's get a jump on it And I like this.
Starting point is 00:32:47 I wanted them to make a parallel of when Archer shot that lunar base when they first arrived in Zindi space. Yeah, this is for them. Yeah, yeah. For those three guys on that moon that weren't able to communicate with us when the entrepreneur first showed up. Yeah. Yeah, I like the parallels there a lot. Anyways, they blow up that research station. RSVP, those guys.
Starting point is 00:33:17 The entrepreneur arrives at the sphere and starts trying to shoot it with the deflector and it seems like it's going really good at first. What was your expectation, W slash R slash T, the big shot? I mean, couldn't help but think
Starting point is 00:33:35 of best of both worlds and that big shot and that it was a giant energy pulse that was like a shot and less of a beam. But this is just a beam, and it goes on forever. It goes on for a really long time. They've got like 11 minutes remaining, and they, like, Trip feels like they need every one of those 11 minutes of this beam going at the sphere.
Starting point is 00:34:00 And I thought it was also interesting that at this point, like, it is just their race against the clock in the space caseo. Like, those are the only stakes until a bunch of guardians show up, in engineering and start hadukening engineers. And you realize that they are taking matters into their own hands. They've come out of their nice, white space, into reality. And I guess they're able to do that because they're in the space case, though, right? I really wanted to see Daniels fight them.
Starting point is 00:34:33 Daniels being the only compatible enemy for the guardians at this point. What is he doing at this point, just watching this on a time? Time travel television screen? Yeah, and he's like, he's like jacking himself off a little bit. Like, oh, yeah, the timelines. Oh, getting so complicated. What would he do if somebody hadukened him also? Like, can he like capture and send it back?
Starting point is 00:34:59 I wanted to know all this. We just don't see any of it. On the bridge, they can definitely tell something is wrong, involving nine transdimensional beings that have beamed over to their ship. Yeah. It seems like things are affecting the beam also, and Tripp is really starting to panic. Not panicking is Dahlum, who is excited to learn that Degra's ship has showed up, and he's like, and they didn't even strap a bigger gun to it?
Starting point is 00:35:27 It's just regular Degra's ship? Amazing. Pathetic. Prepare to intercept. Yeah. What could feel better than destroying that for Dallum? Which is like a good point. Like they didn't really have much.
Starting point is 00:35:41 hope of winning this fight until an old friend rides to the rescue by God that's Shran's music and he's got a steel chair this is unbelievable folks Shran is walking down the ramp
Starting point is 00:35:58 what a moment what an entrance amazing an entrance so good that it makes you really miss his exit at the end of the episode I will say this yeah I mean the episode saggs so hard
Starting point is 00:36:14 when you think it's gonna zig that it's really disorienting it's really you know Enterprise starting to explore the space of what if an ending
Starting point is 00:36:22 felt totally random and strange Ben I was just thinking about what Shran's entrance music would be it's got to be blue right
Starting point is 00:36:30 blue gotta be yeah but like that the like Roland is the like kind of wrapped part Like, that's a blue guy in a blue town. Yeah, yeah, yeah.
Starting point is 00:36:44 Like, that's not where you cue it, right? No. You got to cue it on the hook, I think. I think so, too. Anyways, people are going fucking mental in the audience. And, like, there's so many signs that you're like, they must distribute some signs to the crowd, you know? Because, like, how did the crowd anticipate this to the extent that they went down to a
Starting point is 00:37:04 staples and got a piece of foam core and wrote, We Love Shran on it? Dahlum makes a crucial mistake here because as excited as we are for Sran's entrance, he kind of sees his ship as another target for him. And he shouldn't because once Schran's ship starts firing back, like it starts giving Degra's ship a lot of cover as a distraction. And Shran ship is big. It's closer in size to the entrepreneur.
Starting point is 00:37:36 So we've got kind of the space battle going on between, Shran and Degra's ship and Dahlum's ship. But we also have the battle going on inside the entrepreneur, where we learn that the MAKO weapons are not affecting transdimensional beings. The shots go right through them. And Flax has studied one transdimensional being and gives them some frequency updates for their weps to potentially stun or kill the invaders.
Starting point is 00:38:08 And this is going to run them off. for now, it seems. Yeah. No, they're not going to sue. They got no case. Because parody and damnipides. On the weapons platform, Hoshi guides Archer
Starting point is 00:38:23 into the sequence of light bulb replacements he's got to do. And dumb Dallum finally realizes what's happening here. They've been drawn away from the weapons ship, which Archer's Dustbuster Club is hard at work disabling. I think that one of the great strengths of Star Trek Enterprise
Starting point is 00:38:43 is their ability to design a mechanical prop that works in a way that looks super futuristic and interesting and intricate and flipping these tubes around and the changing color and the way they like interlock with the systems around them just look fucking great to me. Has there ever been anything like a fluorescent light tube that is so bad,
Starting point is 00:39:08 to be around generally, to be illuminated by, and yet so cool as a thing. I know. Like, I love changing these things out in a garage. I love buying them and disposing of them, but they are absolute shit to be around. I hate their buzzing. I hate the light they put off. I hate everything about them. But, like, there's nothing better than them for just handling.
Starting point is 00:39:33 I spent my entire childhood being illuminated by them in classrooms and just, like, getting fucking headaches from the horrific light quality that's coming out of them. The worst. And yet, I can't quit them. I think they're really neat. You throw one of those in a garbage can and it just explodes so satisfyingly. And they're like, oh man, I bet I got a little cancer off of that, but worth it. I was supposed to recycle that.
Starting point is 00:39:59 You know what? Make them so they don't explode. All right? You want me to dispose of them safely? Make it a little less fun to dispose of unsafely. So the guardians aboard the entrepreneur have made it into some room where some piece of equipment is and they are like digging their hands through the guts of systems. And this seems like it's going to fuck with their ability to emit this deflector dish beam. The guardians are digging in the guts like a gardener.
Starting point is 00:40:32 If Enterprise starts feeling bangers, going to dig a bit harder. Oh shit, he's doing it. He's making this the horniest rap episode ever. We get a scene straight out of Mortal Kombat here near where Hoshi and Archer are working. This weapons platform has a lot of scaffolds. Yeah. Bridges. Walkways with no like OSHA compliant guardrails anywhere to be seen.
Starting point is 00:41:05 I think if you're a reptile zindi and you're wearing the metal cage uniform, yeah, yeah, guardrails are probably not what you want. No. You're probably catching yourself on those things and on door knob levers. You probably hate those if you're a zindi. I wonder if this is a side effect of the aquatics having built this thing and it used to be full of water and they were like, oh shit, we should add some stuff for people who aren't going to be. swimming around in here. What do they use again? Walkways?
Starting point is 00:41:40 I mean, you'd laugh. Initially, we didn't even have walkways as part of the design. I mean, I'm realizing that we're going to have to account for a lot more weight because we didn't have any way for them to get around in here. And it's going to be a bunch
Starting point is 00:41:55 of girders and metal. Shit. You know what it's going to mean is it's going to take a lot longer to turn this thing on? That's the problem. That's the the issue with adding these walkways. I think we can live with that. This poor Mako.
Starting point is 00:42:14 This fight with the reptile goes very poorly for him. Yeah. In an exciting way. Like, you want to at least put up a fight, and he does. But it's just an absolute ass kicking for him. Yeah. I mean, he does get, like, a couple of good licks in, but he gets stabbed. But, like, when you punch someone and they don't even feel it,
Starting point is 00:42:33 Does that count as a good lick? Yeah, I guess not. I don't know. The surviving lizardman shoots Hoshi and, oh, she drops her iPhone in the toilet. Ah! I hate that. It's the worst. So she doesn't have the sequence in front of her anymore.
Starting point is 00:42:52 She's going to have to do the rest of this to memory. If we could see inside her skull and all of the soft brain matter that's just been eaten by an eel. I mean, I don't think I like our chances at this point. From memory, Hoshi must instruct Archer. Oh, no. Yeah, she starts talking like RFK Jr. She's like, okay, you're going to turn the other one over. But before you do that, I want to talk to you about the amount of mercury and vaccines.
Starting point is 00:43:26 It seems like if she just like cocked her head to the side, her entire brain mass would just sort of slurp. to the empty part. Over on the entrepreneur, though, whatever those guardians were doing in that equipment did not affect what Tripp was doing because he is able to push past the red line on their brain injections and destroy the sphere.
Starting point is 00:43:53 And it was a very cool implosion effect that sets off a chain reaction. I love it. This is like crunching up a ball of aluminum foil. This effect looks really great. It seems to dissipate the casso so their brains aren't getting scrambled and they're not getting that crackler effect on their skin anymore.
Starting point is 00:44:16 You don't have to go through that indignity of flagging down a waiter and going, actually, I don't think we can finish this. Like, we shouldn't have ordered the entree size amount of queso. It's just too much. And the waiter's like, oh, do you want me to box the rest of that up for you? And you're like, oh, no. And then a dishwasher has to, like, somehow scrape the coagulated queso off of the cast iron dish. I don't know how they do it.
Starting point is 00:44:42 This seems like a soak job to me. Yeah, it's terrible for everyone involved. But a beam goes through space from this sphere to the next one, and the spheres start, like, punching their own tickets. RSVP, the spheres. And the casso. It's all going away. The guardians disappear. This is great news.
Starting point is 00:45:02 I mean, it's half great, right? Because this indie weapon still exists. Archer has finished his job of light bulb replacement over there. And he orders Reed and Hoshi to return to the ship. This is just exactly the thing that Reed didn't want to happen. He didn't want Archer to sacrifice his life. But he reluctantly beams back. And that leaves Archer to plant the explosive charges himself alone.
Starting point is 00:45:28 But is it going to be in time? I like this sequence also. like there's that big like multiply rotating dingus I would maybe call it in the middle of the super weapon this is just gym equipment
Starting point is 00:45:39 from Enterprise right yeah or what gym was this was this Voyager no I think this was on Enterprise yeah anyways yeah there's that thing he like
Starting point is 00:45:49 I like that he had to get one of the charges like onto a moving ring like he like quickly gets it on there blows that up because you don't want to pinch your fingers at that point that would hurt so bad
Starting point is 00:46:00 Catch your hand on that thing? And then the stakes of the episode are like too high at that point. Yeah, can't have that. This thing starts grinding to a stop, which is very satisfying. Dallum, in a fit of rage, cannot believe that this is happening. And they start fighting. But the thing about reptiles is they're so much stronger than humans. And Archer just gets ragdolled here a bunch of times.
Starting point is 00:46:26 Oh, man. There's a moment where Dallum like spins Archer parallel. to the floor like he like flips him over and he spends like three that was so unnecessary and so fun i like that's great yeah you know like you're getting over your own bout of sickness how you feeling by the way i should have asked at the top of the show oh uh it is so incremental day by day i would say since the last time we recorded i'm 10 or 20 percent better this is this is what happened to me there was like a there was like two days of like feeling much better and then like such a long tale of feeling like
Starting point is 00:47:02 an imperceptible amount better from day to day. One of the things I love to do when I'm very sick is watch some movies and I watched some old Jackie Chan Hong Kong movies while I was down and I was just thinking about how much physical combat stuff there is in so many of the modern big tent action movies, you know, your marvels
Starting point is 00:47:24 and whatnot. Yeah. And how bankrupt they are in the creativity department in terms of like the design of those sequences. And those fucking old Jackie Chan movies are so fucking fun the way he's like jumping through the like busted out cane work on a chair and like swinging around a pole to kick a guy, you know. Like this felt like that. It felt like so fucking clever and inventive.
Starting point is 00:47:49 Like it's so fun to watch. Like what, yeah, what would it look like if one guy was super OP compared to the other guy and they're fighting in this like super weird complicated space where like one of them falls down into a well and gets a bunch of kicks to the face. Like, it's just so cool. Ben, these people are still alive. Like, Jackie Chan is alive. Yinwo Ping is alive.
Starting point is 00:48:10 I don't understand why their creativity isn't being brought to bear for modern film in a way that feels so necessary. Like, there's this vanity to superhero films and their action sequences that that's like, we know what we're doing. We do the same thing every time. where it would be like a breath of fresh air to bring in someone with that resume to give us anything different.
Starting point is 00:48:36 I hadn't seen a fight sequence that held my attention in such a long time and I was so fucking delighted to return to this and I feel like this episode of Star Trek Enterprise is also like just so inventive and clever in the way it does all of these things. Will you please open a letterbox to count? I want to know what you're watching.
Starting point is 00:48:57 watching. I think that would be fun. You want to know my thoughts on the first halves of a lot of movies? I do. I really do. I'm the last person that should be encouraging anyone to participate in social media, but that's not social media. It's just a way to log movies you watch, and I think it's great. Yeah. I love the end of this sequence because Archer has this last sticky bomb that he slips like in between some of the outer layers of Dolham's costume. So he's like, fuck, I'm too bulky. I can't reach back there and get this thing of my shoulder blade.
Starting point is 00:49:33 There's too much fucking shit on me. I can't breathe. And Archer gets to push that remote that you clip to the sun visor in your car to open up a garage when you get home. This is why I always use a backscratcher or ask my wife to get me, please. You know one thing my son with the deformed arm couldn't do? scratch his own back. A lot of people think I killed him because he couldn't be in the military.
Starting point is 00:50:04 What I really killed him for was so that I could use his one good arm and preserve it as a backscratcher. RSVP doll, he gets blowed into a billion bits. I love blood on faces. Can I just say that for the gore to hit Archer's face?
Starting point is 00:50:23 So satisfying. He also a little bit got on his cake. Did you see that? It did get on his face and cake, yeah. Happy birthday to me. I didn't realize that was a reference. They're calling back Enterprise. It's so cool.
Starting point is 00:50:40 If we change the words, then it's fair use all day long. They can't beam out Archer. So we get this like Archer slow motion explosion run. like every fucking action sequence from the 80s, 90s, and now. He was running away from the explosion. It makes all the sense in the world. Like even though he has nowhere to go, you got to run from the explosion. Got to run from the explosion.
Starting point is 00:51:11 You're hoping like, oh, he's going to be like running away from it. They were saying he was too deep inside. Yeah. And we start to see the weapon come apart in space and then it blows and it blows big. And you're like, okay, we've seen Star Trek. We know that when the ship blows up, you then cut to the transporter pad and the sparkles happen. Yeah. And you see the guy and you're like, wow, they got him just in the nick of time.
Starting point is 00:51:34 But no, we do not get any resolution on this moment. There's no sparkle. We cut to Valentine's Day on Enterprise and love is in the air. Or is it? We're waiting for Degra's ship. It seems like totally random and uncommented on that it's February 14th. But we learned that the spheres and the anomalies are gone from the expanse and space is returning to normal. Nature is healing.
Starting point is 00:52:02 Most of my lesions are feeling much better. The calamine lotion helped me out a whole bunch, doc. And the lanolin on my forearms, you know, special for that type of tissue. The humans appear to be healing faster than to Paul, which is something she is irritated by, irritated enough to disclose her age to Trip Tucker in this scene, something that is a very intimate admission for any Vulcan. And it has been like a long-running question on board the ship, like how old precisely is she, and she really does not like any remarks about the crackler on her face. So they're having this conversation about how deeply uncool it was basically for Tripp to
Starting point is 00:52:51 back her into a corner of admitting this to him when they get some radio connectivity from Degra's ship. But it's all scrambled. They can't hear shit. Tell me about that. I didn't have the same interpretation of this disclosure. Oh, she's just saying like it's really like private information for a Vulcan to say their age, right? But she wanted to say it. Like, I didn't feel like she was forced to do it. I thought this was a, because she's so mentally, I don't know, fatigued. I thought it was because she was feeling, like, really defensive when he made the remark about her, her face scars. Huh. Interesting.
Starting point is 00:53:27 Yeah, I just, I saw it as, like, yet another example of her just being kind of worn down by this entire experience. Yeah, maybe so. Anyways, they go up to the bridge and they dock with Degris ship, and you're, like, expecting the door to fly open and Archer to be there. But Archer ain't there. It's just fucking read. How disappointing is that. moment, you think? Just crushing.
Starting point is 00:53:55 RSVP, Archer, we learned that he did not make it. The entrepreneur is getting a ride back to human space in an aquatic vessel that's going to take him home in its belly. How fun is it that aquatic ships gobble you up, like a giant whale? Like a mega-mouth shark. I mean, like Job or whatever. You know, like a literary reference where the aquatics will take your ship and transport you and then spit you out. That's a thing, right?
Starting point is 00:54:30 That's a literary reference. Is it Job in the whale? Isn't it? Who's in the whale? Is it the squid in the whale? Oh, that's something else entirely, isn't it? That's, you know, one of my favorite books, but I haven't read in a long time, Adam. Jonah. It's Jonah in the whale.
Starting point is 00:54:52 It is Jonah. I just saved us so many angry letters, Adam. It's a J word. I got hung up on the Js. It's a J.O. Even, you know? Yeah. I always get my JOs in the Bible next up. I'm on drugs. That's my excuse.
Starting point is 00:55:11 That much is certain. Oh, man. So many people are like swirfing. cars on their way to work like shut up you idiots you don't know anything the zindi counselor goes to visit to paul and you know that that moment the insectoid ship ditched the mission was emblematic of where they're at on this conflict now yeah they aren't really down with the guardians anymore and as for the reptiles they're kind of feeling the same way like how could they deny the truth that the guardians had been using them this whole time yeah no one likes that feeling of being used. Nobody likes the feeling of being used, but also politicians
Starting point is 00:55:50 never admit when they're wrong. So it's hard to imagine what's going on among the reptile leadership, you know? There's a lot of like respect Nucks for what Archer did for them because not only did he save the Earth, but he also, I guess, stopped them from having like one of the galaxy's greatest atrocities on their hands and fixed their whole region of space while he was at it. Kind of a lot happened in a very short amount of time. Archer's sacrifice will not be forgotten, and neither will to Paul's Scarface. We go down to Six Bay where we learned that his critters are really upset about the whole
Starting point is 00:56:33 getting taken somewhere in an aquatic ship. Pretty fun, like straight out of Gremlin's type effects work here. Like, give me some plants in a cage and then shake that cage from off screen. that's all you need for a moment like this. There's just a PA, like, right below camera going like, like, chich-ch-ch-ch-ch-ch-ch-ch-ch-ch-ch-ch-ch-ch-ch-ch-ch. Why does this stuff delight me so much? I don't know. It's fun.
Starting point is 00:56:53 Yeah. I mean, but let's just, you know, put it out there. The Enterprise had every opportunity to have a plant that looks like a jack-off hand in one of these cages, and they did not take it. It's outrageous. And if one crew person could have that plant, Dr. Flax is the one you'd want to have that. Like, definitely don't give it to read.
Starting point is 00:57:14 That would be a bad match. I suppose you and I, Mr. Sulu, are kindred spirits in a way. Why hasn't Reed showed up for a shift? My relationship is also not exclusive. Kind of a lot and not enough has been made of who's going to take care of Porthos when Archer is off ship or possibly dead or going on a suicide mission. And this is the scene where we learn that it's not just the people. processing the death of Archer, it's the dogs, and specifically porthos.
Starting point is 00:57:49 Yeah. And this is the first time in the entire series that Tepal has talked to Porthos directly. Did you know this? I didn't. Tepal's not a dog person. Yeah, she really doesn't know how to talk to a doggy. Did you hear that? The doctor says you'll be fine.
Starting point is 00:58:08 Sort of seems like she thinks that Porthos might have a level of understanding quite a bit higher than Porthos probably does. Can I ask you, do we know the answer to this question? Can Vulcans mind-meld non-humanoids? They can mind-meld a whale. That's what I'm saying. But a whale is smart in a way that a... I'm going to get so many letters.
Starting point is 00:58:30 In a way that a dog is not. Like, the level of intelligence is different. Well, there's also that thing that can sometimes happen when you do a meld where you like take on elements of the personality of the person you've melded. And you don't want to Paul going around like, pissing on the floor of the uh of the entrepreneur you know i actually would uh be all right if she started humping people humping people's legs specifically i'm bending over something in engineering in comes to paul she starts smelling my butt i don't know what this is about i don't know
Starting point is 00:59:03 what it is but i sure do like it and get this she didn't mind when i turned around and smelled hers. Enterprise is released from the aquatic ship kind of barfed out. It's back underway. I kept wondering where Schran was. I'm like,
Starting point is 00:59:23 certainly this is the moment where we meet back up with Schran again. We don't. Instead, everyone's on the bridge. We're going to get our beautiful moment where Earth is put up on the screen, an unexploded Earth that makes everyone happy to see. And they're like still far enough
Starting point is 00:59:39 out that you can't quite make out the damage that was done to Florida, so that's nice. Yeah. But they're like radioing and no response from Starfleet HQ. They cannot detect any orbital platforms. There's nothing on radio anywhere. No moon radio? No nothing. Tripp and Mayweather are ordered to go to San Francisco and figure out what's going on.
Starting point is 01:00:03 So they get in a shuttle pod. They fly down there. They're like, oh, yeah, looks about right. normal San Francisco, they pick up some ships coming out to meet them. I'm like, great. Finally, they do a little radioing with these guys. And no answer. Instead, they hear bullets pinging against the side of the shuttle.
Starting point is 01:00:25 What the hell? Three P-51 Mustangs roll up. Yeah. What a sight. We know that this shuttle is bulletproof as hell, Just given the durability of the doors, like, this is going to be fine, right? It's not where are we, Ben? It's when are we?
Starting point is 01:00:46 And when is Archer? Because we cut to a scene in a Nazi field hospital where an officer is shown Archer and he's got a bunch of meatloaf on his face. And then a mystery alien is there wearing a Nazi uniform too. And that's the end of the episode? What's crazy, Ben? is this for a long time could have been the end of the series.
Starting point is 01:01:11 This is sort of a poison pill moment that the show constructed where they were like, you can't end the series like this, right? Too many cliffs. But did you like this episode, Ben? I can't pay. Could for late.
Starting point is 01:01:26 Got no case. Tempting fate. I'm going to say, I respect the poison pillness of it. Yeah. The you cannot fucking end this. series on this note, energy of it. But as a viewer, it is extremely disappointing. It really feels like we got Save the Day blue balls here because it's like we've gone from one huge existential
Starting point is 01:01:53 Star Trek plotline to another one without any warning. And I completely understand why the writer's room would make a choice like this, but I'd say as a viewer, it fucking sucks ass. I agree. The moment it made me think of in a fun way was like try to imagine the series finale of Voyager where like instead of the final scene being Voyager escorted toward Earth by the armada of Federation to Starships, we cut down Earth and it's fucking Nazis. The idea that we cannot be satisfied or feel safe at the end of this season. Yeah. I don't know. I'm with you like I love. I love the cocksureness of like you got to bring us back
Starting point is 01:02:38 fuck you you can't end the show here but it is so deeply unsatisfying to reach this moment and have it be like are we going to get another 24 episode arc for the next season I don't know why I kind of have arc fatigue yeah I don't know if I have that in me
Starting point is 01:02:57 I mean I have to it's my job but yeah you don't have a choice yeah and who's this guy I don't know. I guess we'll find out next season, which for us will be next week. But for now, Ben, we've got to go check the Priority One Message inbox for Nazis. Yeah, we've got to make sure there are no Nazis in there. And if there are, we'll take your $100 still. Priority one message from Starfleet coming in on Secured Channel. You need a supplemental income. Popimal. Supplement. Yeah, it's extra.
Starting point is 01:03:31 The interest alone could be enough to buy this. ship. This is a promotional message, Adam. It goes like this. I'm getting this Jumbotron for two reasons. One, because Ben and Adam helped me and many others through some tough times, and they deserve some extra scars. And two, I'm trying my best to be a streamer with a full-time job and could use the greatest gen bump. I'm trying to be a V-tuber, and we'll be taking my first real steps toward that on September 22nd. I'll start playing Star Trek Online Weekly once this promo drops as well to celebrate. So please check me out at Twitch.tv slash William Ambervain.
Starting point is 01:04:16 So that's Twitch.tv slash W-I-L-L-L-I-A-M-A-M-B-E-E-R-V-E-I-N. And maybe just have me on in the background. Oh, that's a nice idea. Like if you're at work or if you're like cooking for kids or something, just throw William Embervane on in the background. He's probably playing Star Trek Online. Great job by William Ambervain getting past the character creation part of that game, which would be further than I've ever gone in Star Trek Online.
Starting point is 01:04:48 Yeah. Good job by you. Gonna see some ships designed by friend of DeSoto Thomas Morone, I believe? Absolutely, yeah. Yeah. Who has designed mostly great ships, I want to say. Sure. Yeah.
Starting point is 01:05:02 99 beautiful ships and one ugly one, and you know which one that is. That sounds like a lot of fun. I'm going to check it out. I hope other FODs do as well. Absolutely. Ben, we got a personal priority one message here from Dare. And it is to Rebecca or Rebe. Here's that that goes.
Starting point is 01:05:24 Thank you for getting the into Greatest Gen once they did Enterprise, because it's shamefully my favorite trek. Oh! for 30 years of friendship 24 of which you listen to me rage about Archer being the worst and thank you for hilarious memories like Traneer signing your trip
Starting point is 01:05:43 to Paul's sexy times photo she used a body double here's to 30 more years of party central Wow here's to 30 more years Reby and Dare that sounds like a lot of fun
Starting point is 01:06:01 love that it's Dair's favorite trek, but also Dair hates Archer. Yeah, yeah. Weird dichotomy there, isn't it? Yeah, I respect the hell out of it, because, like, I think most people's favorite track is the one with their favorite captain, you know? Yeah, yeah, that's true. I regret not meeting Connor Treeneer at STLB this year. Like, he was there the whole time.
Starting point is 01:06:24 I don't know. I don't know. Something about that guy. We could have, because we'd already met Dominic Keating, and he was right there. Yeah. We've got to be like, hey, Domic, nice seeing you at dinner last night. Introduce us to your little buddy, why don't you? Yeah.
Starting point is 01:06:37 Yeah, we straight up partied with Dominic Keating. It was great. Nothing with Connardtranier. We got the Traneer cold shoulder. This last one's from Kevin from Sincy, aka T underscore Earl underscore Greyhot on Discord. And it's to all STLV FODs, speaking of STLV. Hi to all FODs at STLV 2025. As I adjust to a life where no one listens to my Trek jokes and rants,
Starting point is 01:07:05 I say thanks to you who made a solo trip anything but lonely. Too many to name, but special thanks to Liz, Corey, and Ricky for organizing, Jay and Bowser for hangs, and all my photo buddies. Miss you all, but Tim, you're still wrong about Celsius. Hmm. Man. Is Celsius another timeline that we haven't yet explored in the Star Trek universe? I mean, we're talking about the beverage, aren't we? Oh, I never think of the beverage.
Starting point is 01:07:35 I've never tried that. I know people who swear by it as a performance-enhancing drug. Uh-huh. Like, just for all sorts of things. It's like an energy drink, right? It is, yeah. Yeah. Maybe I'll give it a try.
Starting point is 01:07:48 I've had extremely troubling luck with energy drinks of the past, so I'm a little gun-shy around those things. Kevin from Sincey says a thing that maybe we haven't said enough. STLV was made better, was made great for all the FODs who went and like self-organized a bunch of fun hangs and invited and included folks who had never been to STLV before. They just did a great job. Totally. It was really cool to see that in person because like we've always remarked on how lucky we are to have a listenership that has like undertaken to like organize so many great places online. for each other to hang out and meet people. And, like, seeing it in person was like, oh, man, this is like, it just happens.
Starting point is 01:08:37 It's an emergent property of the Friends of De Soto. They organize fun hangs and hang out. Yeah. The biggest regret of my time there was just how little of it was spent participating in these things. Because we were stuck at a table. Maybe next year. Well, if you'd like to get a P1 on the show, it's really easy to do. You had to Maximumfund.org slash jumbotron.
Starting point is 01:09:00 and set yours up today. I see some availability for holiday ones. If you'd like to wish someone a happy holiday, we've got some inventory available on the show. So run, don't walk to maximum fun.org slash jumbotron. I like that. Hey, Adam. What?
Starting point is 01:09:20 Did you find yourself a drunk Shimota? Incredible. Drunk Shimoda. Do you wish Dahlum was just a little smarter? I think that's where I'm. out with it ultimately at the end. Like, I don't think he ever was more dangerous feeling than when he stabbed Degra. Yeah. Like, he kind of coasted after that in terms of the sense of threat that I got from him,
Starting point is 01:09:46 how evil he was willing to be, how craven he was for power. And I kind of wish in the moments after stabbing Degra, he just got more and more evil and more and more threatening. Right. But that just felt like the apex for him. And that was bad timing. Like make the lethality the absolute tops for this episode and not the episodes before. And that's where I'm kind of like, that's drunk Shimota shit.
Starting point is 01:10:16 You know, like he had a great opportunity to destroy Earth. But he just got fucking in the weeds on too much shit. And I wanted him to be a more formidable opponent, especially for. a story that lasted 24 episodes. Like, I didn't want the energy to peter out at the end with him the way that it did. That final fight scene
Starting point is 01:10:39 with Archer and Dolom, you have to set it up that Archer wins because he fights smarter, not harder. Yeah. Yeah. Because Dolom is such an imposing figure in that moment. Also, I want to Dalem to break Archer there. Like, fuck him up. Yeah.
Starting point is 01:10:55 And it's just not bad enough. It's not, yeah. Archer has some blood on his face and that's it, you know? Yeah, yeah. Yeah, I want, I want Dolom to, like, drop Archer over his knee the way Bain does Batman. Same, yeah. I think I'll join you on the Dolom Square. I think, uh, I think he's the drop smoker this episode. Yeah. What was it all for, man? You fucking blew it. You blew it. You blew it. Faith of the fart. Let's start talking about season four, and it's going to be season four episode one next week. Aptly named for an episode that presumably will feature Nazis.
Starting point is 01:11:31 It's called Stormfront Part 1. Archer and the NXO1 find themselves in Earth's Past with the events of World War II altered by the temporal Cold War. Oh man. Terrifying that that would be the case. I got ahead to gach.biz slash game and see how it will be that we will be reviewing that episode. It could be anything at this point. It seriously could. If the past is prologue.
Starting point is 01:12:01 Currently our runabout is on square 29 and let's see exactly how we will be doing our next episode. The ship could go anywhere at him. Could hit anything. And I hope it does.
Starting point is 01:12:17 You're required to learn as you play. Roll. But it didn't. We jumped all the way up to square 93. Tula! Did I win? Hardly. Regular old episode next week.
Starting point is 01:12:33 How about that? Maybe I'll be 100% by then instead of 70. I really want that for you, buddy. We'll get there. We'll get there eventually. I've been sinus rinsing three times a day. Wow. Getting some exciting stuff out of there?
Starting point is 01:12:50 That's just it. That's how I feel like I'm on the other side of it, is initially, you know, you're just a garbage can of shit flying out of you. Now it's not much of anything at all. That's good. That's good. Yeah. You know what we do have 100% of, Adam, is support from the friends of DeSoto who go to
Starting point is 01:13:08 Maximumfund.org slash join. And if you're like, oh, shit, I don't support at maximum fun.org slash join. Get us back to 100%. We don't want to be at 99.95%. Yeah. It's up to you. We got to thank Wendy Pretty, our producer and editor. who you're not going to believe how many sneezes and nose blows and coughs for both of us
Starting point is 01:13:29 she has cut out over the last few weeks on this show. You have no idea how much appreciation she deserves for all that. It's outrageous. And yet she remains. Yeah, she hasn't given us her two weeks notice or anything. It's unbelievable. Thank you, Wendy. Thank you to Adam Ragusea, who made the original parody of Diane Warren's Enterprise theme song
Starting point is 01:13:52 and Dark Materia, who made the original Picard song. Got to thank Rob Adler, who, as of this recording, is back from Family Leave. Welcome back, Rob. So happy to have you. Check out all of the social media stuff he does for us at Greatest Track all over the internet. And please sign up for our newsletter, the greatest newsletter. Comes out once a month. It's got a discount code for podshop.biz and talks about all the stuff we got going on around here.
Starting point is 01:14:21 I also got to thank our Zindy War Time Sigliari, Bill Tilley, who puts up the trading cards for this show and he's doing Greatest Trek now as well on the Greatest Trek feeds. I saw some trading cards for TOS starting to come out. Amazing. If you didn't already know,
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