The Greatest Generation - Raktajino is for Closers Only (DS9 S5E14)
Episode Date: November 18, 2019When Garak receives a call for help from the Gamma Quadrant, Sisko throws him the keys to a runabout (as long as Worf drives). But when the wormhole begins dumping ticks all over DS9, Sisko decides to... seal it up, which would leave them marooned on the other side. Do we ever pre-plan the ding? How does Dukat get onto the station unannounced? Does Worf have CTE? It’s the episode that reveals a big move!
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Here's to the finest crew, Deep Space 9.
To Star Trek Podcast by a couple of guys who are a little bit embarrassed to have a Star
Trek Podcast.
I'm Ben Harrison.
I'm Adam Pryanaka.
How are you doing today, Adam? Hahaha'll put it on. It's like I'm doing one.
That's how I'm doing, Ben.
One of those days, huh?
I'm looking around my home and I'm just seeing a bunch of things that I'm soon going to have to pack up, Ben.
Oh, man, this is big news. I didn't know if we were breaking news on this episode or not.
Yeah, I mean, why don't we go ahead and say it?
Why don't we say the thing that we've known for a couple of weeks? And if it doesn't end up happening, then you know,
we can cut all this out. I mean, I know that you've known and I have not wanted to pry because I
don't know overestimate how annoying that will be probably, but my wife keeps asking, like, so is it happening?
Is this the plan?
And I'm like, yeah, I'm pretty sure.
I mean, that was the plan last I heard anything.
I mean, it wasn't super definitive, but.
Yeah.
And she wants to kill me, so.
I think your instinct about not prying
is going to be what saves our friendship in the long term
once I move down to L.A.
Which is what is going to happen?
Not just me both me and my wife moving to Los Angeles. What about the doge is the doge coming?
The doge is coming our dustyge coming? The Doge is coming. Our
dusty cat is coming. The whole family is coming. Wow. Yeah. My lovely wife took a job
in Los Angeles, one of the 13 parts of Los Angeles. She took a job there. She took a job
in a part of Los Angeles that may as well be Seattle,
as far as traveling to it from where I live is concerned.
This is a thing that you and I have discussed.
It should come as no surprise to anyone
who I think has ever seen us do a live show,
that you and I are very protective of this thing of ours.
Yeah.
So protective that we are reluctant to even hang out onto work.
Because we know people who have turned work friendships
into work, not friendships after the work gets done.
And we don't want to be that work couple.
So, like it is with that kind of trepidation
that I'm looking at our proximity changing,
but it sounds like you and I are simpatico
about the whole, like not wanting to kill
the golden microphone here.
Yeah, the, the microphone that lays the golden eggs.
Yeah, exactly.
Yeah, but it's been difficult because moving sucks and that is not new news to anyone.
Right.
I thought we'd be done with that.
We got rid of all our boxes, Ben.
Yeah.
Every one of them.
Is this the kind of professional move where the company involved will chip in on that process?
That's kind of a good news, bad news thing, right?
Because the good news is that they are working to help the move happen, and that's one of
the ways in which they will.
But along with accepting a large company's help, you are subject to a big company's choices.
Right.
So, I don't know.
Maybe the moving company is cool. Right. So like, I don't know, maybe the moving company's cool,
maybe they're not.
Yeah, that's a weird phenomenon where one big company
hires another company to be custodians
of all your personal shit.
Yeah, and they're going to drive a car down
and like a whole bunch of other things,
like it's included in the thing. So look, these aren't problems
per se. These are just work. It's a ton of shit you have to do that doesn't
doesn't get you anything. I fully recognize that these are fine problems to have both my wife and I are employed and we
are the recipients of a this kind of help. So it's great, full stop, it's great.
What about living in a different city though?
Like this will be your first time, right?
My family moved around when I was very young,
but once we settled in Seattle,
I mean, I was of an age where it started to matter.
And so I consider myself someone who might as well
have been born and raised in the Seattle area. So yeah
That comes with this the first
Real move away of any distance. Yeah big adventure
Yeah, that's the the outlook. I'm
Striving to give it, you know, yeah, it's hard for someone like me to not see it as a list of things to do.
Because that is just how my broken mind works. I know that I have been
insufficiently excited for my great wife about this. And that sucks. I'm trying to really put in
a lot of effort in my own personal outlook on this, which I think in the end is obviously
going to be positive. My wife's going to be much happier in her job. I'm going to be warm
in the winter months and that's a good thing. Yeah, you'll have fewer weather-related things
to complain about for sure. Yeah, that's going to be nice. And once we get down there, it's going to be, it's going to be
really fun and cool, I think. We will for sure celebrate when you guys get down here. Yeah, we'll
pick a middle ground between us, like Anaheim. Yeah, equally horrible to get to. For better where you're coming from.
Well, I'll tell you,
when we were about to move out here,
I went out to this dinner
and Dan Kennedy, host of the Moth podcast,
was one of the people at it,
and I happened to sit across from him.
And Dan and I have the kind of
easy rapport of two very high anxiety depressive weirdos.
And just like got like way too deep way too quick, I would say.
But I was telling him about some of my fears about moving to LA and how, you know, I didn't want it to destroy my marriage or
cause me to slip back into a paralyzing depression, which is the state I was in when I moved away
from California.
You know, I had come to associate California with like a very bad situation.
And moving itself probably.
Yeah.
And the advice he gave me was basically like, you're going to see yourself from a new vantage
point.
And you've grown a ton since then.
And you've designed an adult life for yourself since then.
So chances are, it's going to be a great thing.
And getting more information about oneself
Is always good. I hope so. I mean, I think the people who say that are probably the ones that like what they found
I'm gonna tell you as somebody looking in from the outside Adam. You're gonna like what you find
Thanks, man. I do appreciate hearing that sincerely. Yeah, God, it's almost here too.
That's the thing of it.
Yeah, this news came up super suddenly.
Yeah, and the move will also come up suddenly.
This is also in a context.
Over the last year,
your wife has looked at a lot of employment opportunities
that were not limited to within the lower 48.
There was discussion of you guys moving to Madrid and London.
And Luxembourg.
We have had a bunch of conversations about what it's going to look like in the Adam
Lives in Europe version of the future. A very laggy podcast is what I imagine it would be.
Like you would hear the laughs come in even later.
Yeah, the uncomfortable silences would be
even more uncomfortable.
Right.
But yeah, the fact that you're moving
to the same municipality as me is very exciting for me personally.
Yeah.
Even if it's not super close.
I think of all the possible outcomes to a location change for job.
I mean, this is probably the best one, right?
If you'd moved to New York, I would have just turned into a jealous shitbag.
And that probably would have ended the pod marriage right there. Right now you're just a
jealous shit sack. Little shit coin per spin. Yeah. That's all you are right now.
Well Adam speaking of changes of venue, big changes of foot on the Deep Space 9 program.
Sure is.
Do you want to get into the episode?
Yeah, let's do it.
Let's go ahead and get into Deep Space 9 Season 5 episode 14 in Pergatres Shadow. This is a unique episode for its title card up front.
It is an episode that's dedicated to a person named Derek Garth, who in doing a little bit of research, I found had died in a car accident
while working on this episode. He was a grip on the show and he was a beloved guy. And I thought
it might be a good opportunity to talk a little bit about what it's like to experience the death of
a person at a workplace. This is something that I've personally experienced.
I don't know if it's something that you have in your work life.
But I have so studiously avoided workplaces that I have not experienced this.
I just can't imagine.
A grip is a person with a kind of omnipresence on a set.
It's one of the jobs that I feel like touches every department
in its own way. And as a role, like there are roles on set that attract assholes, and
uniquely, I think grips tend to be just salt of the earth. Yeah. Great people. Right.
They're the ones that you're going to want to befriend on any set right away. It sucks. It sucks to live a work life with the expectation of certain people around
and the comforts that come from those relationships to a moment when they're suddenly gone. And that
had to feel terrible for everyone who knew Derek Garth. and I think notably, you know, you see a lot of these
title cards at the end of episodes. Right. And I think it is meaningful that this one comes
at the front. Yeah. I mean, it is uniquely devastating to lose somebody during a production,
I imagine. Yeah. And to know exactly what episode to, like,
boy, can't imagine it, it's tough.
Yeah.
Uh, this episode opens with Odo,
Mr. Bobbys,
kind of packing back into his apartment,
all of the shapeshifting objects that, uh,
I guess he cleared out when he was solidified.
Really.
Really, missed an opportunity to get a Kira sitting on the ground next to that twisty metal
thing with an Allen wrench and a sheet of Swedish notes.
Right.
The guy with confusion in his mind and a phone number to call in that scenario.
Because it's gotta be assembled in the condo, right?
They didn't move that through the door.
Yeah, my parents had a couch that they had to like
take an entire window out of their house
to get into the house.
Like, I think they had had it at their previous place
and when they moved, they just didn't realize
that this couch was so small, but my dad is an architect, so willing to heavily modify
a house for almost no reason.
But removed this entire window assembly and then kind of like got it back in place good
enough for now. And then like five years went by with it,
kind of just like, you know, naked, unfinished wood
behind the jam.
Odo is a guy who has to be great at moving
and great at the packaging too, right?
Like if he's moving a couch, he's also the bubble wrap
around the couch.
He can do it all.
Yeah.
He kind of reminds me of George Costanza,
where he's talking to Kira in this episode,
and it's kind of the belly aching,
I gotta move all this crap back in now that I'm gold again.
And it's like George in a relationship
where George getting a TV show at NBC.
If he's in, he just wants to be out and if he's out, all he wants is to be in.
Yeah, he just can't be satisfied.
It's all just slipping away.
And you're letting it happen.
It's interesting that Kira is with him. I think it represents a thawing of that moment that came a few episodes ago when Kira realized
that Odo was a murderer.
Yeah, I mean, I think that this is one of those like album tracking issues.
Like I feel like we've had a couple of Odo episodes where
I guess it was two episodes ago, right, that Odo got back to being a gold.
But then there was like an interregnum episode where it wasn't even mentioned,
that that was like a phenomenon.
Right.
So, so a little bit like picking up like a little late where they left off.
And I think that like Kira's relationship with him and his
goldness got kind of tabled as as issues for a little while.
One thing you're going to want to do when you're getting ready to move is pack up all
your embarrassing stuff. And by that I'm talking about like your pornography, your
sex toys, your seduction books. Finding and winning your perfect mate by Dr. Jennings
Rain. I'll pick that. This is something that Kira picks up on right away. She's not even
scooping. She finds his copy of the game. Yeah, you can't just leave the game out on your
nightstand, Odo. You get it, you better than that. Yeah, I mean who knows, man, like almost everything in his apartment is potentially a sex toy.
I find that by starting with kind of a half compliment, you get the other person interested in
getting your approval on other things. Mr. Odo, you don't need to compliment that strange metal object in the corner of your room.
That is inert, and like my wife Rashan, will be receptive to all of your overtures.
Inanimate objects.
Who cares what they think. So we're jumping around, we get them, they get called up to ops where a Cardassian signal
has been intercepted.
Dax and Cisco are working on this and it's like some kind of Cardassian transmission
coming through the wormhole and they can't decode it.
They try to get like, bejure and intelligence't decode it. They try to get like
bejure and intelligence to decode it. They're no good. And the suggestion is
made that we do have an expert in condescent codes living on the station.
It's kind of dropped out there and then I really like this cut which is they cut
to Gary getting breakfast or lunch with Zeal and Dr. Bashir and kind of recounting how he was called up to check out this message.
Well, how did it go? I'm afraid I disappointed them. It's a great show not tell.
As Gary tells Bashir and Zial, the message was nothing. It was a nothing burger.
Right. It was just a planetary survey and Zeal and Bashir agreed that that must be
a huge disappointment to him.
Yeah, I mean, this is a good scene for kind of resetting the viewer's memory of antecedent
events. Like there was that whole Cardassian Romulan fleet that went into try and preemptively strike the Dominion and they got their pants pulled down
really badly.
Derek has been told by change leader that everyone is dead.
And so like the idea that Starfleet was excited that maybe
they'd gotten word from that fleet, Derek has disapused
them of and he takes his leave from breakfast as he's
got to go mend some trousers, etc., etc.
And he heads off and Zial confesses to Bashir that she's kind of got the sweets for
for Derek.
There's something about Derek, I find fascinating.
It's crazy, this great big station, hundreds or maybe even thousands of people aboard.
The only two cardacians have found each other.
Yeah.
It's pretty sweet.
I mean, it's like you and I, like that first time we hung out.
We saw each other from across the room as kindred spirits.
Yeah.
Avoiding eye contact with each other and everyone else.
You're as uncomfortable as I am and for all the same reasons.
Yeah, to Garic though, a pair of pants that needs mending ends up being a runabout.
That needs hijacking.
And so he's sneaking a board of runabout and he gets on there and he's got a dustbuster
in his nose.
Yeah.
The Bashir with a sort of a bad guy reveal here.
Yeah.
Bashir like living his best spy life, I don't say.
Bashir saw right through his dissembling at breakfast and decided to just go sit on the runabout with a
dustbuster just in case Garrick tried to steal it. What I love about Garrick in
this moment is that he does that thing that people who get caught try to do
which is try to cut in the guy you caught you into the thing you're trying to do.
So Garrick said, look man why don't you come with me? Because then you'd be
in on the spy mission. And that would benefit you. Right. And Bashir's like, cool, yeah,
let's definitely do the mission. Once we have permission from my boss. Yeah.
Go to Kotlin. Go to Kotlin. So.
Garyx made the case that, of course, Bashir would want to go along on this thing.
He needs to rescue and not bring pain.
And to Dr. Bashir, a rescue mission is irresistible.
It's like drinking a glass of piss.
I feel like there must be a cork board somewhere in your house with Bashir on one side and a glass
of piss on the other side.
And you have red thread connecting all over all these different topics to get to the glass
of piss.
I have a theory about this whole thing that I will share with you later on in the app, but I think our feelings about this year will be confirmed later on in this story that we're telling.
Wow.
In Cisco's office, Garrick admits that he can find the source of this thing.
This isn't just a planetary survey. It's a message, and it's a message from a nobrientane, and the message says,
alive, alive, alive.
So who else could it be from?
It has to be a nobrientane.
The code sequence was personally designed by Tane
and myself.
No one else knows it.
Yeah, only he could come up with something
that incisive.
Right.
Garek kind of turns into salesman, Garek,
in this moment, because he's like,
yeah, like this is like troops,
like Cardassia and Romulan troops, probably a bunch of federationships and their crew members.
Everybody could be at the source of this signal.
And these are going to be people we need in case we ever get to set trip in with the dominion.
That's a great description.
And when he starts selling here, he does not stop selling for the entire episode. He really doesn't, he is that guy.
He knows that Rectagino is for Closer's own.
Right.
So Cisco is fairly open-minded about this idea.
I just want to bask in that ding.
Well, for now.
Ha ha ha ha.
You've got 10 dings written down on your notepad.
Yeah.
You son of a bitch.
They're all on that red thread between Bashir and the glass of tears.
That's why it feels so sweet when I get one because I don't pre-plan my dings.
I've never pre-planed a ding.
Ben, you know that.
Come on. Oh man.
Pride goes before the fall, Pranica.
I'm not saying I have any amount of pride in it at all.
It's just what's happened.
What do you think of that?
They're speaking of pride.
Speaking of pride,
Wurf is being real smug about taking the gig
of replacing Bashir, Scording Garrick into the G-quad.
He's using some kind of, uh, like, Jordy LaFourge, uh, beard shaver to sharpen his mech-leth,
while Dax yells at him because she is, is, and he is going on this mission.
I was going to tell you when on your way out the airlock?
Really climbing up his ass about a work thing.
They make the case that he kind of volunteered for it.
But do you ever really volunteer for something
when you're in the military?
I don't think so.
And also, if Dax is going to be pissed at anyone,
why not get pissed at Cisco?
Get pissed at Cisco.
Yeah, I guess the volunteerism thing
is at the crux of this? But Dax is even more
pissed that she found out second hand about this mission, and that's because Wurf didn't tell her
directly. That's no good. That's a bad look for Wurf, for sure. So she's going to extract her
pound of Malota in the form of taking all of his honey sticks with his
Klingon operas. And this is this has real stakes for Wurf. It seems like these
are the only copies of these Klingon operas he has and the only way he has of
getting his hands on them. Come on Wurf. Two is one and one is none. You should know
this. Yeah. A half full tank of gas is an empty tank of gas.
Right. Get it together, Wharf. The scene is here to remind us also that they're still super hot for
each other. We're given the gift of like a 27 second make-out. I guess Risa didn't ruin them.
Ended with Dax saying, have a glorious death or don't yeah
I would kind of like to be told that every time I leave the house
Really encourage me to go seize the day I think I'm just walking the dog. What are you talking about?
What what what aren't you telling me no more than Adam experiences the very real feeling that you might be heading to your
own death every time you walk outside.
Yeah.
Kill walking a doggy.
Speaking of ladies that are sad that their gentlemen are heading into danger, Zeyol begs
Gerek not to do this.
I feel bad for Zeyol here because she seems like someone who constantly gets stomped
for sharing her true feelings about a thing.
Yeah.
And here it's no different.
She doesn't even directly admit feelings for Eric.
She sort of cutely cops to them, and Eric is just straight mean.
I'm a longer daddy.
A rebel.
Why do you always make fun of my feelings for you?
I wonder if he's coming from a place of like, I really don't want her to fall in love
with me because that's not going to be good for her or me.
Yeah, that spy business of, you don't want to get close to me, babe.
Because you just get hurt.
That spy business or that I secretly secretly love bishier business.
Right.
But she also gets stumped from behind at him because surprise DuCott comes up.
Yeah, DuCott straight up George McFly's garrick here telling garrick to get his damn hands
off her.
Touch my daughter again, how can you?
How does DuCott get onto the station unannounced? I don't know. I mean,
it serves the fun of the story more than the logic of the story, and there are a few scenes in
this episode that could be described like that. But it really like clips along for that reason.
This episode is a fucking wild ride. Yeah. Pretty sure that DuCott would have thrown
Garic off the railing had Quark Knight intervened.
I guess Quark is just such a dirt bag that he like is never
going to be the guy that's calling the police on someone.
No.
So he uses like the prospect of getting locked up in
Odo's office as a way of convincing DuCott
to unhand Garrick.
I think if your quark Garrick is a very important person
to you, as an instrument of getting things done
or hearing things or whatever.
Yeah, that's possibly true.
Although an unreliable instrument in the way that Gary is always unreliable.
Right.
Zial is the voice of the viewer here and asking to cut,
what are you doing here?
He's like, I took the Mutant Nebula to the Badlands, took all after the wormhole,
and had it all the way out of the station. on picco that has a small garden center now.
Can't wait. I'm throwing out all my winter jackets, been looking forward to blonde Adam.
Yeah. Do I frost my tips up here?
Or do I wait to do that down there by a professional?
Yeah, you get it done by an expert.
Your wife was texting my wife like,
what do I do with all my cute sweaters? And
my wife did not have good news. Yeah, they're all going away. I have two huge drawerfuls of
sweaters that I don't ever wear. I just can't countenance getting rid of them. Yeah. My wife's
favorite months are the fall and winter months for that reason.
She loves a chunky sweater more than anything.
Yeah, RSVP those months.
Nice. This makes this little sense as it does to not have the little D involved at this point in
Warf's mission. I think the decision of taking a run about is a little questionable.
Yeah, I thought about this. I don't know if we've of taking a run about is a little questionable. Yeah, I thought about this.
I don't know if we've ever seen a run about in the little D in space close to each other
where we could get a sense of their relative size, but one headcan anything I came up with
was maybe this is really low profile and doesn't look like anything to the Dominion, whereas the little D is like pretty provocative
as like emphatically a worship.
That makes a ton of sense, yeah.
Because they are very much going behind enemy lines
to look for the source of this signal,
and it's a sneak around.
Warf is saying, we can't just cross Dominion space
and go fly around looking for this and
They come up with the idea of hiding their their penetration into digging in space in a nebula
I really love that it takes like this happened so many times to war
It takes garrick a ton of effort to convince Wurf that nebula's her safe places in a time of war.
Like, Wharf, you remember the Paulston Nebula, right?
Right.
You remember the most significant part
of your time on the Enterprise D was hiding there, right?
I think Wharf has CTE from all his combat brain injuries on the holodeck from all the lightning.
He has lightning and do CTE is what he's got.
Yeah, it doesn't reflect super well on him.
I mean, he also catches Garrick and a lie in the scene though.
And I wondered like is Garrick's game getting super weak? You know, because he
like, he got taught by Bashir.
Did you think he was caught? Do you think he like laid breadcrumb shirt Bashir?
Oh, no, I was interpreting that as this as this moment in the runabout between Garrick
and Warf.
Oh, yeah, like he's saying like like I gotta keep my lying blade sharp.
He's like, look, Warf, you don't just go into a place
where you know you're gonna lie
with a bunch of lies in the chamber.
That's why I like to blast a couple of lies
in the runabout on my way to a thing,
just so I can go in like super cool and calm,
not filled up with a bunch of lies.
They make a bet who can go the longest without lying.
And, and, and, and,
and Garry, because like it's different for you, Worf.
For us, it's part of our lifestyle.
Worf is like, I have a difficult time lying. Someone is looking at me
to a rip. And then they get a look at the window of the runabout and there's
somebody that they want to lie to like new to cross the street. Jesus. I'm just
I'm just doing the sign fell metaphor metaphor further. Right, okay. Okay.
Because that was the episode where there was a naked lady across the street, right?
Yeah, that was a...
That's what broke Kramer.
Yeah. This is another scene in which Garrick really sells Wharf on the idea of continuing the
mission, because before they even get to the nebula Wharf, it's like, not too dangerous.
Gotta turn around, but Garrk closes him big time.
We owe it to them to do everything in our power
to find them and bring them home.
It's the honorable thing to do.
So they continue, but unfortunately,
that nebula is full of ticks.
Ticks of all sizes, it's like turning over a log
and then finding like 200 centipedes underneath
it. It is terrible. It's my wife's nightmare. Yeah. Well, all of this is happening. The
episode is still periodically cutting back to the station and following the GolduCot is
worried about Zeal associating with Garrick storyline. Right. In a way that I found astonishing.
We're really doing this, right?
Yeah.
We're really gonna cut away from the fleet of ticks
to here, here, here, Cura defend her decision
to allow Zial to associate with Garrick.
Yeah.
It's one of these characters in Star Trek where I'm like,
is she supposed to be 20 or just she's supposed to be 14?
It doesn't help because the actor is different every time we see her.
Yeah, and I just feel like the episode like refuses to make a decision about-
Yeah, how much agency does she have?
And I think by questioning her age band, you're spot on in doing that.
Kira, we are told is a caretaker for Zial,
but in what way really?
Right, like the idea of Kira having some responsibility
for the decisions that Zial is making
would be a different matter if we knew
that Zial lived with Kira if she was like her guardian
or something like that,
but I don't get the sense that that's what's going on.
Like Kira was living with the O'Brien's for a while.
I mean, one thing neither of us are saying
and that the episode explicitly does not say
is how old is Garek?
Garek is like 50.
Yeah. What I'm not saying is how old is Garrick? Garrick is like 50.
Zeal might be an age between 14 and 20.
Maybe.
She might be 20.
Yeah.
So Garrick is a fucking creep, is what you're saying.
Why isn't anyone talking about this?
Yeah.
I don't know.
If you're going to fuck around with the actor playing Zeyol, and you're going to introduce
the idea of attraction between them, I think before this episode was the time to cast her
as someone a little older.
But I think also that it's tough, right?
Because we've seen Zeyol as so young, so much younger, many episodes ago that I think
they really stuck in the casting with her
Yeah, like the refusal of Star Trek to like stake out a
Rubicon between being a minor and being a grown-up is
An ongoing frustration. Yeah, it's what gets us into trouble for telling jokes about that shit
I know it's Star Trek's fault. That's what I've been saying all along.
Don't get mad at us.
We're just confused about what the show is trying to say.
All right.
The scene ends with DuCat leveling some not-so-veiled threats at Kira.
You've betrayed me.
When I promise I won't forget it. And Kira to his face, showing an air of defiance, but once Dukat leaves the scene, I think she
kind of slumps into her seat going like, I think she's feeling a little bit of regret at
stirring up this beehive, not that she's scared of Dukat, but that it's just going to be an
ongoing pain in the ass.
Right. DuCat is somebody who's always going to hold the grudge.
Something happens to your production wise that I'm sure you notice too.
And that is how narrow the focus is when you shoot a scene this way and how
you need to account for where an actor is leaning in and out.
Because DuCat in this scene is very still in his seat
and he always remains in tack sharp focus
and Kira is moving forward and backward
and that's one of the reasons why she soft
throughout the entire thing.
Yeah, the focus puller is like missing her
whenever she moves.
Right.
And it's too bad.
The consequence of all these ticks coming out of the nebula
is that the runabout is boarded
and then Garrett takes a bud of a rifle to the face.
The got like a bit of a distress signal out.
Like we get a brief scene in an ops where they're like,
yeah, it says like, there's something from war
if it's like build up,
blah, blah, blah, blah, imminent. It just says alive, alive, alive. Yeah. But the focus is on
warfin' character being delivered into Gemheadar Space Jail. And this is a very like,
And this is a very like breezy, open concept jail. It's like, it seems like a pretty nice place to hang if it wasn't a brutal prison.
Like a couple of times on TNG, a character or two would be stuck in space jail and it would seem like
really desperately shitty. This one doesn't seem like that bad. It's just a confinement, you know.
Hey, I'm Kevin O'Connor, and welcome to this old asteroid.
Ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha.
Now when you build in an internment camp,
on a piece of shit asteroid, you're gonna want to have a place
for your prisoners to do the calisthenics.
I'll show you how to build a Sumo ring
using easy-to-find household materials. This asteroid prison is a is a single bubble of atmosphere with no
No livable surface in the terrain beyond. So there is no electronic frontier, there is no star-cade. Escape means death. There is the plastic plummet lament. What did we
find in the walls? Well, a bit of a surprise. Is that backwaterondo? Hahaha.
Why even have a prison if you'd the gem had are? Is a question that I thought at this moment in time?
Seems like a lot of work.
It does, but like so much of what they do, I wondered, did, like they call it, you know,
Penal Col colony 371.
There's no escape.
And yet this place was built in a way that allowed an obruntane to send a distress signal.
So I kind of wondered if it's like Gem with our roach motel.
You know what a thing I thought of too was that I wonder if when you're making golden
copies of people, it just makes sense to keep the originals around.
That's interesting, yeah.
In case your founder goes and gets killed, then what, like, are you unable to make another copy?
An accurate copy without them? I don't know.
I like that. The gemadar in charge of this prison is the scaliest gem hadar we've ever come across, and he introduces Worf and
Garrick to their new prison.
And it's basically like all it is is just a place that they can move about freely.
And the first person they meet is the real general martac.
Right.
How long have you been here? Two years.
The Martok we've seen for seasons and seasons
has not been the real Martok at all.
Yeah, yeah.
We've found that out in the, in the Martok
as a gold sisco as a Klingon episode.
But this is, this is the guy that the Gold Martak replaced.
I think there was a question at that point about how long Martak had been Gold Martak.
Yeah.
And this Martak confirms that it's the whole time.
Yeah, two years.
Yeah.
Which is nuts.
Garrick gets a, gets a moment with Tane who has taken quite ill.
His, his heart is giving out.
So major like explicit, explicitly daddy issue based stuff between Garek and Tane.
This is Garek's daddy issues episode more than any other.
And yeah, he's here like on Tane's death bunk bed.
Well, all Tane kind of, you know, lives his last few hours.
But he's very gratified that his distress signal got Gerek there.
But, you know, super disapproving of the fact that character didn't come with the cavalry.
They don't say it explicitly, but I think that an
operantane is dying of unflattering camera angles.
This is a thing that gets progressively worse as he gets closer to death.
Did you notice that?
Like, they get further and further down his body, shooting up his neck.
Yeah, I think it's intentional.
I think it's supposed to look bad.
Yeah. body shooting up his neck. Yeah, I think it's intentional. I think it's supposed to look bad. Yeah, and that god, that filthy bunk
with the dirty pillowcase and stuff,
you gotta clean those linens
if you want a sick person to live and get better.
Well, they have a McLaughlin group.
If you want on due space nine,
and this is one of those ones
that GolduCot gets invited to.
Do cot being the pet you can in of this one?
Yeah. They take a two-cat being the pat you can in of this one.
Yeah. They take a census of like the condition
of the Alpha Quadrant major players.
And the, you know, like the Romulans and the Cardassians
lost a lot of material to their adventure
in the Gamma Quadrant.
The Klingon War has devastated a lot of Klingon
ships and Federation ships, which have also been devastated by the recent Borg attack,
which I guess is a reference to first contact, right?
Right, yeah.
So Starfleet is low on ships as well.
Well, you know, they send you Galaxy Class boys out here to the far reaches.
Me, I just haul my butt back and forth between star bases.
Not very good looking situation.
They're really kind of marooned out there, which is sort of the feeling that the show has
always injected into the deep space.
Deep space now is supposed to feel far away from from Federation space.
And so it's like two days before any any other Federation
starships are going to be able to make it to to come to their defense.
And if this like huge armada of ticks is going to come through the wormhole,
it's it's them in the defiant that are going to be the first line of defense.
Everyone takes a beat and looks at the glass case on the wall that says break to
destroy the wormhole.
Because that's kind of the final solution here.
Destroy the wormhole.
That's the last stand.
It's it's destroyed the aperture.
Right.
Because they they're not going to actually destroy the celestial temple,
which is of great concern to Kira, but if they close the door, then the Dominion can't come
through and kill everybody, and that's a price that Cisco and the Federation are willing to pay.
Yeah, it doesn't go well in the room for that reason with Kira and also with DAX because
losing Warf on the other side of the whole would not be ideal either. No one in the room is
riding for Kira, though. He's fine over there. Yeah, so Cisco gives them 36 hours to make it back.
It seems like DuCott's pretty happy to leave both of them on the other side. Right. And
like, do Cots pretty happy to leave both of them on the other side.
Right.
And, uh,
Dax is the one that, uh, that really feels this and, you know, the most painfully.
Back on the asteroid, uh, Mar-Toc is sharing his escape from Shawshank plan with a group.
And there's like a picture of
Lursa and Batur tacked up to this concrete wall covering the hole on the other side.
That day General Martok growled through 500 meters of Jim Hadar shit, came out smelling
clean on the other side.
They've got to move fast because an Abrantane is really circling the drain and they think
he'll be dead soon.
But luckily, Martak is going to get some extra help in this escape plan and reveals Dr.
Bashir.
Yeah, old uniform Dr. Bashir.
Which means he's been gone for quite some time.
Yeah, they say about a month in the dialogue here.
We know it's him because he does the golden blood test immediately.
And yeah, he says it's been a month.
So it was Dr. Bashir gold edition that helped Odo with the changeling, right?
Right.
And either couldn't or wouldn't save its life at the end.
Which is an interesting twist.
Yeah.
It was Dr. Bashir Gold edition that was helping Sisko when he was having his vision quest, his
Bajurian vision quest.
Oh, it was Dr. Bashir that delivered the O'Brien, baby.
Wow.
Golden Bashir seen everything.
Yeah.
Cut to a scene of O'Brien, like drinking with Golden Bashir, and like his inner monologue
is like, boy, Bashir usually drinks a lot more than this.
What the fuck is problem is what happened to this guy?
It's got used to be cool.
I used to be able to hang.
He all of a sudden doesn't know anything about World War II fighter plans.
We get some fun stuff with Dr. Bashir Gold edition walking around the space station.
They're talking about what is his mission.
The first scene that we get is him delivering some sandwiches to Dax and O'Brien who are
setting up the station to shut the wormhole.
This is another great example of that kind of edit we were talking about before.
Like Bartok asks the question, wonder what he's doing over there.
And then we cut to this year just being nice to dad to no Brian.
Spooky.
But you can't help but wonder like, oh my god are these like poison sandwiches or something?
I mean, I would, I would realize something was wrong with
Bishir if he tried to give Mia Sandwich. Right, he should know better. Yeah, I don't like that shit.
Word travels pretty fast in the station, Ben, that an attack is imminent and the expectation by
DuCott is that Zial is going to get the fuck off the station. And when he finds her at the transport,
she doesn't have any bags.
I'm not leaving.
He's being real stern dad about this.
You know how stern dad acts.
He's like, I'm your dad,
and you're gonna do what I say,
because I'm your dad.
Yeah.
But Zee-al doesn't prescribe to that.
And she may be 14,
but she might be 20 and an adult
and who's able to make her own
decisions about these kinds of things.
Oh, it's crazy.
To Kat thinks it's about Garrick and he's partially right.
And then to Kat pivots into reverse psychology when, when Zial says that she's staying and
it's like, fine, you can stay.
I want you to stay actually.
Stay and die.
Doesn't bother me.
Which is like, okay, I will.
I mean, this might be the most dad-daughter depiction
we've seen of them so far.
Like that kind of quick thinking and pivoting
in the spirit of a fight, in the heat of a fight, I mean.
Yeah, it's just so nuts that like the episode really wants us to care about this storyline
when it's like 50 ships are coming through the wormhole.
It's like these are the like personal relationships we're going to show being blown apart by the
imminent threat.
Like where's Kako?
Like where's Jake?
It remains to be seen how instrumental DuCott will be in the second half of this,
but if you're going to care about civilians on the station, one can look no further than
Keko and a newborn baby. Show us what they're going through because those are characters that we
have a lot more reps with. And Jake and Nug. Right. So Garrick and Bashir get back to old tricks pretty quickly in jail.
And Garrick is sort of preoccupied with the daddy issues with Tane.
He's like, I came to rescue him and don't get a thank you.
I don't get anything.
Classic running up against the
brick wall that is dead, that, uh, that is so familiar in film and television. I mean, not to both
sides it, but I mean, you should never do a nice thing for a person with the expectation of a nice
thing coming back to you. Like an obrinsruntane is not obligated to forgive just because
Garrick did this thing, but it would be nice, right? Especially if Tane knows that he's
that he's going to die. You don't want to die with all this baggage. You want to die light.
Yeah. And so Marthok calls the band and Garrick goes and and leans over Tane
and leans over Tane on his deathbunk bed, and extracts a, you know, an admission from Tane
that he was proud of Garrick, even just for a moment,
at one point in his childhood.
A day.
I was kind of surprised that Tane gave
the satisfaction of this to Garrick.
I thought it was fun how obliquely he did it.
Yeah.
You know, like there's, he did a thing that were a court reporter
to read back the quotes, like would not,
in a court of law, read as forgiveness
or a recognition of a father-centered relationship.
Like that part of...
It's intentionally ambiguous.
Yeah.
I really started to feel something here right up until the point that an Aubrentane brand
owed.
Yeah.
That's kind of a rip-off move.
He asked me, ripping off one of the greats.
Right.
This is a character that we've had on the show for at least a few seasons.
And Paul Dooley is one of the great actors.
Right. Yeah.
So it's his right to Brando if we're saying goodbye to this character for good.
The Brando is a significant moment for him, but also we get the solo brass instrument of the death
of a nobrientane here. Yeah.
The solo brass instrument is most frequently used
for star fleets.
Yeah.
I was shocked by this.
It writes garrotic into the main cast in a way.
I think it does.
And in a very star fleet turn, like he gets up,
not broken up about the passing of his father
and professional idol idol and turns to
Worf, Marthock and Bashir and says let's get the fuck out of here and forms the
conspiracy to escape from jail. It's great. There's sort of like a it feels a little
Michael Bayes-Shaddy like when he gets up off of the bed turns to camera. Yeah, it's the camera spinning around as he stands up. Yeah,
that's big fun. I don't know about you, but my business here is done. Then I suggest we find a
way out of here. Warfin' Martak are down. They're down for the cause. Let's do it. So back in Ops,
for the cause. Let's do it. So back in ops, they are getting ready to shoot gravitan beams at the wormhole slash celestial temple. And you know, Kira says a little prayer, hoping that
the Prophet will forgive them. Dax raises the one last mention of Worf and Bashir Gold Edition says, you know, Worf is a
Klingon warrior and he'll understand, you know, the decision we made here and they,
they pull the trigger, start the Graviton beams and then they crap out and
O'Brien goes over and looks in the circuitry and he's like, why are there wooden shoes in here?
Oh my God, man, I just thought of something.
It was Golden Bashir who was on Rysa.
Golden Bashir broke up with Lida.
Wasn't the real Bashir is going to be so pissed.
I don't know, because that's the old uniform.
They were still on the old uniform when they went to Rysa. Really?
Yeah, so maybe it wasn't.
Maybe it was. I mean, Lita was really in the driver's seat of that breakup.
Yeah, that's true. Like it like the sheer will be disappointed,
but he wouldn't have had any any control over it either way. The thing that made me think of it was
Was Bishir at ops going like,
yep, close the whole war foot understand.
But like in the back of his mind,
it's like that fucker war fruit at a great vacation.
Like now I'm gonna end him forever.
You don't ruin another man's vacation warf.
Otherwise you get locked behind the wormhole.
So they all look up on the view screen and ops
and the space butthole spreads open
and tick diariate dumps out.
It is just rotten with ticks, Ben.
Yeah.
And a dun dun dun.
It is a best of both world style cliffhanger we got here.
Yeah, a midseason to be continued.
That's big fun.
Yeah.
You really want to do this here.
Now, okay, okay, let's do it.
Did you like the episode, Adam?
I thought this was great.
This was as breathless as you described.
I mean, outside of the deep, deep G story
of DuCa and his daughter, which, I mean, maybe we'll be explained in part two
of this episode.
It really clips.
Yeah.
I mean, even those parts clip, I was getting the bends a little bit, but I thought they
were well written and interesting, despite seeming shoved in.
They did the right thing by making them so brief.
Absolutely.
Right.
Yeah, I really like the episode too.
It feels fun and good.
And a lot of the wrapping up old storylines
that it felt like they were doing in the last episode
feels like this episode benefits from that kind of closure.
Right. I've got a question I don't know where else to put.
What do you understand the rules of the profits to be up until now?
Because did you think it was weird that in the wardrobe, like they came up with the plan,
like the last ditch effort of closing the wormhole but not killing the profits in the process?
Was there ever a thought of communicating
with the profits about this? Like, hey, could you, could you squish all the ticks coming
through? Right. The wormhole has an extremely high dollar value. And I feel like any and
all alternatives to its closure should be on the table. I think it's fascinating that
no one looks at Cisco and goes like, you know, don't you have a relationship with that? Place down
the street. Couldn't you go knock on their door? See if they can do anything about this.
Weird. We may never fully understand the rules of interacting with the profits, but I thought
that might be at least in the form of a question and
an answer in that ward room scene, it's something to touch on.
Because it's right there.
I think you make a good point.
I think that they do a lot in the dialogue to assuage some of those concerns.
Like, Cisco says, like, when have you ever known the profits to be incapable of getting
in touch with Bayjor if they needed to?
Yeah.
And that sort of plants the question of like how much in control of the spatial phenomenon
of the wormhole are the profits?
Could they just open it back up the second they need to?
Yeah.
It seems that way.
Who knows?
I mean, that's the problem of having a a doose X machina outside the station,
huh? Mm-hmm. It's dropping a it's dropping a doose X tickina at the end of this episode.
Sorry, Ben. That one will not qualify as title of episode. Oh, sorry. Well, I got that earlier one,
though. So unless some of the great shit you have said in between then and now, super seeds mine,
still have that.
I could still hang my hat on that one ding candidate.
Ben, the butthole full of ticks outside of our podcast is the email account that contains priority
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You want to see what we got in there?
Not now that you put it that way, but twist my arm.
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Oh no.
I really hope middle schoolers aren't listening
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I think middle schoolers constitute the majority
of our audience been.
Yeah, if the drunk people in line at the,
you know, in the merch line at the end of our live shows
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I'm really beginning to rethink the whole
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underage listeners. This is sort of a time traveling P1 message here.
Yeah, this is a, this is somebody sending,
sending like an enabrantane-like
distress signal out into the wild blue yonder
and seeing if Lee Ann P.
Bread, T. Josh S.
Kyle K.
or Crystal A are out there.
Alex S. says, alive.
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Can you decode this message?
Do you know, do you know who Razz is?
Plavibians forever, uh, comforting to hear that, uh,
that Razz and Plavim still are going concern out there.
Yeah, some, somebody's got them on the, on the mind.
I mean, Razz and Plavime both
spent thousands of dollars on P1s and then we stopped hearing from them. I mean, I hope
they're okay. Yeah. They didn't run out of money. You know, Plavime spent thousands of
dollars, but I think it was like, like, largely the rez calls that were spending money on
the other side. Yeah. So, I don't know.
Maybe that's why there's such an affinity for the plevibians.
You know, plevim sent us Christmas presents one year,
so I still have that hazmat suit.
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So Bart Mancuso is sending Morse code over the, what do you call it, the periscope, right?
Ramiya says respond responded with one ping only
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What is that, Ben?
Did you find yourself a drunk Shimoda?
So in the scene where DuCat has garrick up against the railing, there is a background
actor doing something totally inexplicable and I don't understand it.
He's queuing up the timecode here.
It's over DuCott's shoulder.
It's about at the 13 minute and 42nd mark. We cut back and forth between,
like I really like this composition. It's it's Garyx head over the railing and the assembled
bar patrons below. And then we get a two shot where do Cots and profile and Quark is centered up
and between their faces are some bar patrons in the background.
There's a gentleman sitting at his table and he's making big mouth energy.
Like he's clearly asking what happened, but because his face is so brightly lit
and his clothes are so dark, you can't help but just see him talk.
And because his mouth is right next to the cat's mouth,
I thought it was a very strange bit of framing
that I found personally distracting.
Yeah, the AD goes around and tells that background performer
to knock it back or we're gonna put you
in a different part of the scene.
He clearly says what happened, performer to knock it back or we're gonna put you in a different part of the scene.
He clearly says what happened, but he says it like, like, King Hippo in Mike Tyson's punchout.
He makes a great big mouth about it.
So that background actor is gonna be my drug, Shimoda.
What about you, Ben?
My drug, Shimoda is a nobberent pain.
He's a guy who has kind of vacillated back and forth between affectionate
and cold and calculating.
But the fact that he is literally on his deathbed
and unable to just be directly vulnerable with Garrick
really worked for me.
I feel like that's very true to character.
And he gives a little anecdote that could be interpreted
as I'm proud of you and a loving father.
But also I can't be held to that.
And for a guy who gets like a with special guest appearance
by credit or something like something along those lines.
They don't use him that much, but that scene really worked for me.
I felt like it was a character that I didn't know I needed a, like,
a strong arc that included closure for, but I liked the way they handled him.
And he was my drunk's remote.
It was really sophisticatedly done.
So happy that it was concluded this way, rather than with any sort of
trickly, sweet, come to daddy moment, you know?
Yeah.
And it's led into in a scene where Gerek is like deriving the concept of sentimentality.
Yeah.
He considers it to a weakness.
And then Gerek is like bathing in sentimentality
and trying to get his dad to be a good dad.
And he doesn't quite get it,
but he rounds what he gets up to a good final moment.
If you like, this doesn't happen all the time,
so it should be noted, a lot of times,
two part episodes have one that's just all set up, you know?
Set up for the second.
Yeah.
And I feel like this episode can really hang on its own.
Yeah.
It's really well done.
Do you get that, get that gold press?
I get that, get that gold press.
I got it in my right hand.
Oh, yeah.
I got it in my right hand.
Oh.
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Oh yeah, well that would be Season 5 episode 15 by Inferno's Light. Part two.
Led by Gilducat, Cardassia joins the Dominion
and prepares to take over the Alpha Quadrant.
I think you could have seen that coming, right?
The Cardis are always going to choose.
It's like, we recently learned this on an episode of friendly fire
where Hirohedo said that the chances of Germany winning
the European theater were 100%.
Yeah.
Like, I feel like the Cardassians are looking at the scene going like, I think we need
to align ourselves with the military that's going to win this one.
Yeah.
Golducada is always going to make the duplicitous turn.
Yeah.
That's his utility as a character.
So it will be fun.
Like he is such not an antagonist in this episode,
other than just to tell Zeeal that he doesn't want her
sniffing around Gerex place.
But this is great.
Looking forward to it.
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is finding out how we will be watching the next episode.
If you head over to Gach.bizslashgame, you can find the game of
buttholes, the will of the profits, where the runabout is currently on square 43, and a few squares
ahead is a Coco-no-no episode, and a few squares past that is a space butthole that has gotten us
a few squares past that is a space butthole that has gotten us before and pretty recently took us down to the fuck it. We'll do it live square, which I do think we need to think
about what could be on that square in place of fuck it. We'll do it live, but we have not
gotten that ahead of ourselves on that.
I think it'll be just as much trouble to do it live when I'm living in LA as it is right now. I don't really see a reason to change that. Oh, I think it'll be just as much trouble to do it live when I'm living in L.A. as it is right now. So I don't really see a reason to change that. Well, I'm going to cue this
up and roll them bones. You're required to learn as you play. Roll. Okay, here we go. Adam, I've rolled a two.
Two, aah!
Did I win?
Harvey.
We're on square 45, the doorstep of a cocoa no-no, but a regular app for next week.
Hey, alright.
Not bad.
Yeah, it's still in play, I like that.
Yeah, all of the danger still exists.
So that will be next week's app.
Hey, thanks to everyone who made today's show possible.
Of course, you know, I'm talking about the people who got a maximum fund at
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You know, one of the things that is, I'm sure everybody can understand this.
It's true of the group of people that donate is that, you know, in between
Max Fund drives that group of people shrinks is that in between Max Fundraves, that group of people
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They started listening to the content of this program and read a different season about
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Shrinkage is a natural thing that happens
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We got to think Adam Ragusia who made the original music for this program
He has a great cooking channel on YouTube if you just search Adam Ragusia on YouTube, you can find it.
I just watched his episode for Chicken Tika Masala today, Adam.
He's got a greatest gen shout out in that episode.
Very cool.
Yeah.
He's taking off his headphones and then putting them in an oil fryer.
He's battering and frying our episode.
And we love him for it.
Delicious.
We also love Bill Tilly, who's at Bill Tilly 1973.
He, the creator of the collectible comedy cards
that are made for every episode of the greatest generation.
Thanks to him and everyone else who
makes fun art pieces about our show.
Yeah, follow all of the social medias
There's the hashtag greatest gen on Twitter. There's
Groups on Facebook and Reddit and
There's the wikia. There's all all kinds of places online to pal around with the friends of your soda who are a really delightful group of people
And we really appreciate it.
And I think we have a couple more live shows coming up, right?
At this point.
That's right.
This week we will be in Houston and Austin, Texas.
Yeah.
Come on out, Texas.
Say what's up.
These will be the last two shows of 2019 for us.
Yeah.
So come out and see us.
Come out and have a great time with us.
The greatest gen live shows.
Really the best.
Yeah, that's one of the most fun things you can do
of any evening.
With that, we'll be back at you next time
with another great episode of Star Trek Deep Space 9.
An episode of the greatest generation generation Deep Space 9, which struggles
furiously to clench down on its butthole.
You don't want those ticks to get out, Ben.
No, keep the ticks in the butthole.
Clench!
Clench!
Clench!
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