The Greatest Generation - Red Crud Continuity (VOY S4E5)

Episode Date: June 27, 2022

When a lonely holographic man sends a distress call to Voyager, the EMH convinces the captain to risk his mobile emitter on an away mission. But when Harry Kim and Seven of Nine are teamed up for another engineering project, the episode becomes a cocktail of horniness and fear. Does Neelix charge a corkage fee for cakes? What happens when you go down the long ladder? Is it okay to do bits on organics? It’s the episode that’s hanging butt! Support the production of The Greatest Generation.Friends of DeSoto for Democracy.Friends of DeSoto for Justice.Follow The Game of Buttholes: The Will of the Caretaker!Music by Adam Ragusea & Dark MateriaFollow The Greatest Generation on Twitter, and discuss the show using the hashtag #GreatestGen!The Greatest Generation is now regularly streaming on Twitch.Facebook group | Subreddit | Discord | WikiSign up for our mailing list!

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Welcome to the greatest generation to Star Trek podcast my couple guys just a little bit embarrassed about having a Star Trek podcast I'm Adam Prennicka. I'm Ben Harrison. How you doing Adam? Doing great man not as great as you are though feel like Not a competition. Isn't it though? What? No, come on. Not a competition, but I've been, uh,

I've been hearing with great envy about your time in New Orleans. Yeah, I went to the Big Easy. I had two friends reach out while I was down there and I took great delight in saying like, oh yeah, I can't hang out today. I'm in the big easy. Wow. Yeah. You were just the person that said it's not a competition and listen to you thrown it in people's faces. Yeah. It was fun. It's fun to say you're in the big easy. How many nights were you there?

Four night trip. Ooh. It was, uh, guess, baby moon. Is that what you do before you have a baby? Or is that, is that after a baby? No, I think it's before. I think, I think you got it right the first time. Because honeymoon is after you get married. So, but it doesn't make sense. It is very confusing. It is very mental. The math of baby moon is very confusing. But, that was the, the idea was some friends that we really missed from New York. Met up with us there. Oh great. And one of them went to college in Tulane, so she really knows her way around town. She gets to New Orleans several times a year. Wow. That has all of the great restaurant and bar wrecks and was just a great tour guide that isn't a local but can talk local you know i love that kind of trip where

you aren't the one looking on the eater website and i like and like putting stars on your map yeah for places to go that's already been done just a jazz gum every morning walk around with a hurricane and a promotional plastic cup. Wow. In a chain around your neck. Now I've never been to Newerland so I've got a couple of questions if you wouldn't mind answering them for me. Given that you're now that I've been there for four days. I always saw it as a kind of Vegas in that the thing my personal rule about Vegas is no more than three nights because it's just so much. Right. And and New Orleans seems like that kind of place, but you went four nights. Did you feel like that was the right amount to be there given given how much of New Orleans there is? I wish I could have stayed longer, honestly.

Like, I think that, so I don't quite know what the gambling expectations you would have for New Orleans would be because there are casinos. I saw a few casinos out the windows of various lifts while I was there. And that's why I said what I said about Vegas, it's the combination of intoxication and gambling and just vice and general.

Like that much vice for that many nights. We didn't have any gambling component to the trip. It was an oops all food trip. Other than digestively, right? Yeah, and also the couple that we were with had their five month old baby with them. So this was also, Oh no!

No! You say that like it's a bad thing, but we were really eager to meet this little kid and they get, That's not what you said off the mic. They got babysitters for two of the nights. So we went out and like did like late night music stuff. You get baby rover, right?

When you go to a different city? No, like I said, she's got roots in the city, so she can draw on like known people. It's amazing. It was great, it was so much fun. I had a day, I think it was the last full day that we were in town though, that really could have gone badly. Far worse for me than it's generally known,

which was that I packed like one pair of long pants really could have gone badly. Far worse for me than it's generally known, which was that I packed like one pair of long pants and one pair of shorts on this trip. And the pair of shorts I picked not because they're my favorite pair of shorts. In fact, they're kind of my least favorite pair of shorts. They're the pair of shorts that is the least falling apart right now.

What is going on with you? I just, I haven't bought new bottoms in a long time. And so all my shorts either have like holes. All of your shorts are vintage linen, right? They just all have like holes in the pockets or like blown out crotches, or you know, like they just, they're all just like worn to hell except for this one pair.

And so this was the pair I chose to bring. And the one with juicy on the butt. We were, well, you mentioned the butt, but we were at this restaurant for lunch eating, I had like a porquetta sandwich that was like absolutely phenomenal. And you ate that right in front of your wife? Mm-hmm. Yeah. Well, while making eye contact, just like incredible mac and cheese everything everything we ate was incredible But I dropped my napkin and we were on like we were on a high table outside and I went To get the napkin I bent over like a fully 18 inch long rip goes down the back of my shorts

Like not a little subtle rip. 18 inches, pretty much the whole butt. Full butt rip. Like my entire ass is hanging out. And we're like eating outdoors against the like Florida ceiling windows of this restaurant. So there's like an entire dining room of people looking at this. Winning.

I like got back up on my stool and my wife was like, Was there like a Gentile Southern gentleman on the scene to bring you a new pair of traugers? Several monocles fell out. Wow, sir, I had noticed your butt-tocks. I'm a simple country attorney, but I do declare you have offended me, sir. I do not know how to define obscenity, but I know it when I see it. My wife helped make sure that when I got back up on my stool, not too much of the rip was open. But you just grab like six cloth napkins and tie them all

together into a kind of skirt situation. But I was like, what do you even do, man? You know me. I'm a person that is like pretty reticent about spending money when it's like, I fuck something up. And I just, like, I don't want and I just, like I don't wanna like. You're kind of a money martyr, aren't you? I'm a bit of a money martyr and I was like,

okay, I found, I like went on my phone and I found a clothing store that looked like it sold promising menswear, about a 15 minute walk from where we were and I was like, I'm just gonna, my good sir, do I have an offer for you? I just happen to be walking by this fine restaurant and I noticed your butt-tocks had spilled out of your shorts if you'll allow me to invite you to my southern shorts and podium my atelier is not 15 minute walk yonder.

So I proposed, I'm gonna walk over to this place and see if I can't scare up a new pair of butt coverings. And my wife was like, what the fuck are you talking about? You are not walking for 15 minutes with your ass hanging out. Hey, someone's gonna ask, which means I have to ask, what's going on under the shorts? I had briefs on color, like a navy blue brief.

Cleanliness or wear pattern, like relatively new, not us. Okay, I'd be right at home in a gay nightclub in these briefs. That's a story for another time. Your wife quite sensibly does not want to be seen with you generally, but also specifically in this moment. Has it, this is a luncheon you're having? And so it's daytime on the swock. It's lunch.

We're with friends. I didn't want to like split up with the group. She persuaded me to, you know, use a ride-sharing app. You know, a lot of rideshairs won't pick you up with a blown-out butt. Well, this was the thing. I was like, do I need to like, is there a requirement to say,

like, hey, I'm gonna be sitting on your back seat. I'm going to make sure that there's fabric in between my ass and the seat. Or do you always face the driver? I always, I was like, I think I can get away with not bringing the situation up to the driver. And I did. I agree. I made it to the store without the driver knowing.

Perfect. I got into the store. I pick up a pair of shorts that I like quite a bit. They're the last pair that they have on this particular shelf. An excellent selection, sir. They're my size. I go into the changing room, I put them on, I'm like, this could not have gone better. Like, these are good, isn't good pair of shorts from a brand that I already have an appreciation for in my size.

They look good with what I already have on A+. So I move all like my wallet and my pocket knife and my AirPods, everything into my new pockets. And I walk out and I take the tag off the back, like pop, put it on the checkout stand. I say, I'm gonna wear these out, sir. And he said, all right, and he starts ringing me up and I said, yeah, I had a bit of a fashion emergency. And I hold up, like Jared the Subway guy,

hold up old shorts to show him what the before was. He was like, that'll happen. And like, continue stirring me up. Like, he fucking sees this 10 times a day. I was so upset. You wanted the, you wanted the thank you for your service, I wanted it to be like, holy mackerel, you really had a morning, you know, something. It was like he couldn't, he, it

was like, it was so routine to him, it was like I was offering to pay with cash instead of a card. You know what, he's, he's a battlefield surgeon. He's seen it card. You know what, he's a battlefield surgeon. He's seen it all. He's seen, he's been in the trenches for a long time. He's probably wondering why there wasn't a mix of blood and feces on the back of the shorts. Oh, perhaps I should have been more specific.

There was. You know, most people overdo it with the crowd ads and hurricanes first. Yeah, yeah. So I get out and I'm like, so the thing was You know, most people overdo it with the Krawdads and hurricanes first. Yeah, yeah. So I get out and I'm like, so the thing was, the restaurant that we had lunch at, I'd had like one of the best frosty frozen beverages I've ever had in my entire life. I don't remember much about it. I just remember it being like... That good, huh? I just remember it being like incredible.. I just remember it being like incredible like it was it was like really strong in a way that is like not usually the case for a frosty beverage.

But also like well balanced and I don't know there's something about the combination of like the sweltering muggy heat that we were sitting in and that frosty beverage. we were sitting in and that frosty beverage and the searing humiliation that I was feeling, knowing what was gonna happen when I got out of my stool and revealed my ass to the entire restaurant. But I was like, oh man, I got shorts. Like this happened so quickly. I've definitely got time to get back there and get that frosty beverage, but I texted my wife

and they'd already moved to a different location and I had to go have less good drinks at like a hotel patio. You're a better man than I am, Ben, because I would have been like, Hey, this is taking a little longer than I thought. I will, I will see you on that hotel patio in about 20 minutes longer than you think it's gonna take me. So now for the rest of my life, I'm gonna be thinking about that drink. The drink that got away. But the good news was as I departed that place in the lift, I saw that the hot eight brass

band was playing around the corner. And so like later that night, we got to go see the hot eight brass band, famous for being the band that forms the drop for Ron Canada. Wow, it all comes together. Yeah. Oh, it was, is that like me going to the park where they land the bird of prey and Star Trek 4? Like, was that the reason for this trip the whole time? and Star Trek 4. Like, was that the reason for this trip the whole time? Yeah, it was a thinly veiled pretext for me to murder my wife? Wow.

Well, Ben, I know a word for what a person was thinking, seeing you hang that ass. I believe the word is revulsion. Oh, nicely done, friend. That is a mission log level pivot. Let. Oh, oh, oh. Nicely done, friend. That is a mission log level pivot. Let's get into it, Adam. It's season four, episode five of Star Trek Voyager. Revision.

Reaver, of course. Unless you've got something a little bigger in your torpedo, dudes. I'm not dreaming about that. We open on an unfamiliar ship, and a dude inside looks like he fell into some red crud and he's being dragged to a place where he can be cleaned off. Yeah, obviously. He at least has red crud on the back of his head.

Right. No shot of the back of his shorts. Not a lot of red crud continuity though because like there's sort of a passage of time. He's dragged a great distance. Yeah, sometimes He's painting with the back of his head in other shots. He's not does he run out of crud what happened It's got to be such a relief when you're dragging a body when they finally stop bleeding like Because you're doing the math in your head, right? I got to clean up after this and it's gonna be a lot to do Yeah, yeah, but like you reach that last hundred yards before you get to the boat that you're

going to put them on before throwing them overboard. And you're like, right, well, at least I don't have to pressure wash the dog. I mean, who hasn't thought this? Yeah. This will date this episode a little bit, but I just looked at some footage of the person that threw a piece of cake at the Mona Lisa, and the security guard from the Louvre in security guard outfit trying to use a napkin to wipe the cake off the protective glass that protects the Mona Lisa.

And what I wanted when this guy starts cleaning up the red crud was some smearage. And it's not smeering. It's like, it's like, it's maddening to watch somebody like rub a napkin against red crud and it like doesn't even move around. Oh, dumb spot, out, I said. It's maddening because you and I know what blood does

when you just try to mash a napkin and do it or whatever. Yeah. This is the case for wipes. It's the case for a bidet also. You don't just use dry paper to clean up a mess like this. The guy doing a bad job of cleaning up this mess is DeGerin played by Leeland Orser of KnifeStrapOnFame. Yeah.

And he kind of looks a little bit like he maybe has like data face paint. Like it's kind of hard to see because these scenes are all very darkly lit. I agree. That's the point of how it's set up here. You kind of stopped my mind in its tracks with the seven reference because I actually did look at Leeland Orser's IMDB and I was like, God, this guy, this guy's really done a lot of fun things. Do you know his credit in seven?

I don't. It's crazed man in massage parlour. A massage parlour? That is not what I interpreted that place as being. Me neither. What a great credit though. That is a role that you take as an actor knowing that that will be the thing you are known for forever, right? Hey Ben, you want to do some improv? Yes, and what should we do it about? All right, Ben, thanks for coming in. You're

going to be reading for the part of crazed man in massage parlour okay what we're doing here is we aren't giving any script pages at all we just kind of want to see how you would be as a crazed man in a massage parlour so why don't you go ahead and just give me a couple of takes hey that was that was great maybe maybe give me one Err! Err! Err! How's that? Hey, that was, that was great. Maybe, maybe give me one, no. Here's what I always used to say as a director. All right, now give me one for safety. Ha ha ha.

Except maybe make this one a little more suggestive. Ha ha ha. Ha ha ha. I'm beginning to think that a major aerospace company let you go for different reasons than having a slightly different strategy surrounding how they hire making talent. Yeah, it turns out their reason was cause. Pause. Ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha Which is what he says when he puts out his distress call that he is an isomorphic Projection. Yeah, he's in distress. He needs he needs some help for anybody It's a literal distress call isn't he leaves out the part where he needs help cleaning up blood, right? Like Guys, I'm in a very messy ship. I'm gonna need a lot of wet wipes The napkins are not moving the blood around, quite the way you expect.

So anything you can do to help would really be great. Enough time has passed to where I'm actually gonna need like those razor blade chisels that you used to get gum off of a concrete floor. That would actually be more useful to me. If anybody has worked in a massage parlour or similar. Yeah, you know, a tool that would be really useful for me is like something that you could attach plausibly to a dildo and a horror movie directed by David Fincher.

Sounds great. After the opening credits, we come back to the Friars roast of Tufok. You know, they only roast the ones they love. It's also the first episode of the Delta Flyers podcast because Kim and Paris really take it away here. It's you, yeah. It turns out they're doing bits on PIP, Saddam. It's my pleasure to grant you the rank of Lieutenant Commander.

That may be the first rule of the Delta Flyers podcast. We have different rules over here. Yeah. On the greatest generation. The cause for the gathering. And you don't know this initially, and I was like, what is fucking wrong? What is wrong with the officers on the Voyager

that they got together in the lunchroom with their own table and are making the entire rest of the crew watch them share anecdotes. It sucks. It makes more sense when you realize that this is what they have by way of a day is. Yeah, it's the best they've got and it's not like, you know, this is the reason that the restaurants have the banquet room behind the doors. Right. Yeah. Because if you saw what was going on in there, I mean, they brought their own cake.

You could do that. That is like... To get all those presents. That's bringing your own cake is like standard practice in my wife's family in a way that I had never encountered that before. And I was like, they're going to kick us out the first time they did that. Like, like, pulled a banana cake out for somebody's birthday at family Mexican restaurant. I was like, we're gonna get in trouble. You shouldn't have done that. You got to order off the menu.

There's no carcaged fever cakes. The banana cake reveal must have been a huge deal in your family. My family also, Nadi, bring a cake to a restaurant family. Yeah. Because of the logistics. Where's that thing gonna ride? You're just gonna put it on your lap for the entire drive and then you're gonna walk it in.

And then how do you even wrap a cake? You need one of those cake containers with the lid. Yeah. No family I've ever met more accustomed to just dealing with the logistics of things than my wife. You married into a banana cake family. That's what you did. And so, TuVac is now a lieutenant commander.

He kind of gives as good as he gets. I thought his little acceptance speech was a nice balance of measured Vulcan appreciation without expressing emotion, but also kind of roasting everybody back a little bit I know no half of you have as well as I should like and I like less than half of you Have as well as you deserve. It's kind of the quintessential scene of What is Star Trek? Yeah, this is Star Trek. It's a little bit of of light-dunking and a little bit of sincerity in the same scene

And a guy getting a pip. Yeah, you ever watched Don Trin? After dinner, BLT and Paris catch up in the hallway, and it is clear that while Jacote was down on planet war, they did not pursue the confession of love that they shared at the end of the episode before that. That can wait till the soon after. In the now, you need my hope to nullify the Nemesis. Yeah, and so this is the first time they've talked about it since. In like three days. The sad realization here is that BLT tells Paris that in order to find Paris attractive, she needs to be oxygen deprived. in order to find Paris attractive, she needs to be oxygen deprived.

Ha, ha, ha. It's like, well, that's fine, Belana. I have a selection of web leather belts in my quarters. Ha, ha, ha. And so that's gonna be the basis for their relationship. She's like, you know, I think you're okay right now, but maybe we should go into a shuttle bay and kind of crack the door.

Yeah. It looks like they're going to try to like actually go on a date or something, but the doctor interrupts a big smooch. I've isolated the reverse power flux coupling with a bucket of ice water that Paris is going to be taking back over his nurse now that Kess is no longer secunded to six pay. I was amazed they even said her name. I was so sure this was a show that just wanted to turn the page utterly. But yeah, it's Paris's job if he wants it and I guess he can't turn it down. Yeah, it's Paris's job if he wants it and also if he doesn't want it. Speaking of people being given assignments

they may or may not want, Shikote is doing the same with Kim. Yeah. Except it's a project that goes back away. This is a project that Kim has kind of a professional association with. So he can't just let it go. He's got to continue his work and he's been assigned to do that work with seven of nine. The misgivings he has about collaborating with her stem back to the time that she bonked him on the head. Seems legit, like a legitimate beef there, I think.

Right. Like if you told your boss like, hey, I don't want to work with her. She bonked me on the head. It kind of sucks if your boss is like, deaf nougies, you got to do it. It wasn't a light bonking either. No.

It really took him down. And not only knocked him down, it knocked down the security guy that was watching him to defend him in case she went for a bonking. Chicoote is so oblivious. Chicoote assigns that security guy to like clean up the shuttle bay alcove. What the hell Chico te is so oblivious. Chico te assigns that security guy to like clean up the the shuttle bay alco What the hell Chico te? Chico te is really traumatized from his recent experience

But they got to get this astro metrics lab up and running big deal Yeah, they got like they got like a whole new set. They got a build. So let's get on it It sure does seem like everyone at this party is talking about work in a way that's kind of sad because the camera kind of dodges around to different people here at the post party hang and like Janeway is assigning Nielix to some ambassadorial thing that we never see for the rest of the episode. Like, no one has anything else to talk about besides work on this ship and it makes sense on the one hand, but on the other hand, it really makes me sad.

Yeah. on the ship and it makes sense on the one hand, but on the other hand, it really makes me sad. Yeah, I mean, the one break you get is the shot that follows Ensign Wildman into the pool and then like, watch us swim away from the camera and then the camera comes back up out of the water. Where two vodka's dressed like a future cowboy, like trying to go to new look. And Becky Barnett is just like fine with it, like not really getting it, not supporting it, not against it.

No one's talking about Kess. This is the scene where people should be like, wasn't that crazy how she kind of turned into a being a pure energy and also took a shuttle and now she's gone. You think we're ever gonna see you again? And then they'll like bend down out of frame to do a line and then... Nelix is really the Louise Goosemon of the crew, isn't he? He's like, Janeway, you gotta, you gotta put me on a mission! On the end, but baby, please talk to Jack. Tell him I can do this.

He's a little too over-enthusiastic, but he's been doing great. We're getting... Who's the dirt digler of the Voyager crew, then? If we're gonna carry this Boogie Knight's metaphor to its natural conclusion. It is obviously Harry Kim. Something about it reminds me of being in the womb.

What up, Harry? Who are you? Harry Kim. Harry Kim. Harry must be reminds me of being in the womb. Get up, Harry. Who are you? Harry Kim. Harry Kim. Parents must be very proud. Who are you? They come as come as a pair. Who are you?

Harry Kim. Who else is she supposed to get chummy with? Harry Kim. And you're mocked. Very proud. Who are you? Harry Kim. Chummy.

And you're mocked. Harry Kim. Who are you? Harry Kim. That's gotta be. He is you? Harry Kim. That's gotta be. He is a star. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. It is Harry Kim, isn't it? The captain gets called up to the bridge and the suggestion is that the doc may want to join her.

And when they go up, they look on FaceTime at this distress call that they got, that we saw sent out at the beginning of the episode. And the doc is like, I mean, talk about like put me in a scene, like the doc is like send me on this away mission. He starts like ordering people around on the bridge. I don't recall giving you a promotion today. He's so excited at the idea of meeting another hollow, another hollow like him.

This guy's just like him and he wants to help. Initially, Janeway is like, you're in my nook. Like, let me be the captain, but finally, he kind of convinces Janeway that he's the right guy for the job, but he's going to need a chaperone and that's going to be BLT. Yeah. She also expresses some concern for the security of his mobile emitter. We don't

just send you on away missions because when you go on away missions, you're taking a vital piece of technology that enables you to have freedom with you. It is waterproof, but not hammerproof, Dr. There's coffee in their mobile emitters. So BLT is going to go with and the rest of the crew are going to go on to do whatever diplomatic crap they're working on. And this is just great news for the EMH. The news is a little different down in the shuttle bay where seven of nine lives. When Kim walks in, I mean, he's definitely carrying the feelings about being hit earlier,

but those aren't the only feelings that he's carrying. I feel like the steaminess of them begins immediately, like from jump. It's like if you're going into a haunted house, but you're also horny for whatever might happen. Yeah, if this is your king into a haunted house, but you're also horny for whatever might happen. Yeah, if this is your king, if haunted house is your king, nothing gets me a bigger charger than the smell of stage smoke.

And the thought that like a theater student might jump out from a behind a bridge. Yeah. Yeah. She wasn't expecting him. She's ready to get to work. But it doesn't matter. That's all she does. Yeah.

He didn't catch her doing something. Knock on my door. Knock next time. She wasn't recharging at the time. Yeah. We cut over to the brat style shuttle. I can't climb. Yeah, we cut over to the brat style shuttle Where the doc and BLT are on their way to this this holo ship right and Paris is an off-limit subject Yeah, the doc is really awkward this episode. Yeah, he's like he's like wearing a

Hole in the carpet on the shuttle pacing And he's like yeah, he's worried about Paris running Six Bay while he's gone, which is a very funny thing for, like, I love that like he has anxiety, but what he has anxiety about is not like, I wanna get and rescue the hollow man that we saw, like because I'm so curious about him being the rare counterpart of mine that we encounter.

It's much more worried about like, God damn it, he's gonna fuck everything up back home. Doctor, please. I'm looking at the schedule and for some reason, it's all breast augmentation. So, how can one person do four vaginal rejuves in a row? Am I making any sense here? No, you're not making any sense here.

When all you have to do is wave a light over it? Yeah, right. Looks like he's tacking on a vajazzling as a bonus. A small added fee. God, butt lifts for everyone. So they beam over to this alien ship and you'll see very quickly finds like a dildo recharger in a corner. Do you see this thing?

No, I did not notice. And I usually look for things like that. I'm just gonna hold it up so you can notice the dildo recharger. First thing she walks up to. What? Yeah. I don't know what that thing is. Of all the things DeGaron is busy sanitizing,

he doesn't think to go over that one with a light. It looks like one of those things that you put a quarter in in like a dive bar and it tells you how much of a hunk you are or something. You have to punch as hard as you can and it tells you how strong you are. The DeGaron character appears behind them a couple of times in the scene. Like he's watching them, but they don't see him yet.

This is the sort of thing that Anton Kim would really get a total boner over, right? Right, yeah, exactly. Scare me, daddy. Yeah, imagine Vincent Kim was on this mission. The lead-alondorcer character would not be the only one with a hammer in this scene. Boy, when he finally appears, he introduces himself and says he's from Soros and up. The planet behind everything. Yeah. Yeah, fun. The planet behind everything. Yeah, a bunch of right-wing cranks on Twitter start freaking out about what DeGaren's

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Like, there should have been like some dialogue about that, I felt like. The mere mention of a virus should have triggered a change in behavior on any level, a change in behavior that never happened. They like really extend trust and never drop it until it's like way far past him seeming to try. Like the second a hammer fell out of thin air behind them, they should have been like, eh, let's be careful around this shit. Were you at any point clear on what exactly the mission was

over there too? Like were they gonna, was this purely an investigation? Were they gonna attract the ship somewhere? Like, it's interesting, like, when you get the message that this is a distress call, I guess the assumption is you're gonna come over and help. But there's no specificity to the help that they're there to provide,

at least that I can recall. Well, so BLT starts by like trying to stabilize his hollow matrix, but then I think that next step would be like get his ship set up so that he can like go home or whatever. We are far from home. We need help. I mean, guess they're of a band group, right? The suggestion of that doesn't go over well later.

Yeah, so he's like an extreme hazard guy who isn't really used to being around people. And he asked the MH, like, do you have a name? The MH says he doesn't, which I felt like was a pretty sad example of Schmollis a racer. If he does kind of have a name, right? Yeah, what's the hold up here, Doc? I don't get it. Does he just want people to keep the name Schmollis out there

fucking mouth? Well, I mean, he was gonna name himself Dejaren. Not after today. That's an awkward moment. Yeah. So they're gonna set about fixing up the ship. The doctor is gonna set about scanning this isomorph's matrix and we cut back to seven and Harry Kim doing some work. Seven is like, is trying to be like hot shot, new hire at work. She's like, hey, this thing I just installed, ready to go, throw the switch and Harry Kim is like,

uh, that went a little quick. I'm gonna check your work and turns out she's not that good. It must have been my humanity reasserting itself. A little bit of carelessness, and I like this take from Jerry Ryan, like, seven having the confidence of being a Borgs and of also being a Tri-Hart, but she's also paranoid. Yeah, and a little defensive when she doesn't do it perfect.

This is why I'm never confident about anything, because the moment you're confident about something and then you're proven to be foolish about that thing, your life is ruined. The only thing I'm confident of is that there's no rake right in front of me. Pfft. Yeah.

Oh, man. Ha, ha, ha, ha. So we go from this scene to another scene where seven of nine is like ready to reach into a dangerous area, which is like full of super high voltage material. And Kim gets super protective and horny about what she's doing. And 7 of 9 is like my limbs can take an astonishing amount of voltage.

Like I'm built for this. Those fingers that have the little metal tips on them are protected from that kind of stuff. And he's like, but there are procedures. So let's follow them. That was interesting, because like Harry Kim is not written to be like Rick Berman, you know? Like when she goes down the ladder, he says after you,

not let me go first, you know. Right. This is a down the long ladder situation. Sure it is. But yeah, in this scene where he's like got his hands on her shoulders and they're a little closer than they would have been otherwise, it does feel like it's getting a little bit hot and heavy in this Jeffrey's tube. The procedures are a waste of time.

The light really does a lot of work in all of these scenes, right? It's always turned down. They're always very close. They're always in any two others' nooks. And that glowy red from the high voltage cables is kind of making it a little bit moody as well. So, what do you do for fun down in cargo bay two? Back on the alien ship, isomorph guy is asking about the mobile

emitter he they they discussed the mobile emitter a little bit when they first came aboard in a way that he could obviously over here which you know puts you illidies because the safety of the mobile emitter has already come up in the episode the more they talk about it the more fraught that situation feels. Yeah, I liked this performance of like, so, you know, what's the deal with that? Like not that I'm particularly interested in it for any particular reason, but curious, like, what can you do with it? And in this conversation, the Yamaha describes what his life is like and DeGaron describes what his life is like and DeGaron

sort of sounds like he is a slave. I mean, even without the doc describing what his life is like, it sounds like DeGaron has a pretty awful go of it working for the soroses. But what makes the bad feeling compounded is when the doc describes the way that he lives. Like it's the comparison that makes it worse. Yeah. I mean, in a vacuum, working for the soroses sounds awful, but like compared to what the doc does,

somehow worse than that. Yeah, you wouldn't think, but yet. Yeah, yeah. So the doc sees this as an opportunity to inspire. He's like, you know, now that the crew is gone, you know, maybe you could try to develop some interests and become a more well-rounded hollow like me. Oh, no, no, no, my programmer,

Sunsaurus would never allow that. I don't know anything about you or your society, but I think you should use me as an example. I've had some really fun hijinks. I made myself a family and killed off one of the characters at one point. Yeah. I've really learned a lot.

The Jaren's like, tell me more about the killing part. Yeah. That sounds interesting to me. Almost as interesting as the pool of blood he finds that he hadn't been able to clean up from before. Hey, Doc, holiday, how did you not notice the pool of blood next to your med kit? No, it's blood.

Yeah, are you accustomed to setting your med kit down on a pool of blood and not asking any questions? It's literally the first thing you should be looking for in any situation, is blood and where it's coming from. Yeah, you're with a biological crew member. She could get infected from this disease, you still believe to have been a real thing. Come on!

Boy, it feels awkward at the end of this scene. This is like Lila Dorcer's awkwardness. Like this is a real toothy character for him. He really is, yeah. He's so good at this, at this kind of guy. He's effectively squeaky in a way that like just pervades the entire thing. Totally.

Go ahead and get the ball out. Speaking of characters, almost shocking themselves to death. He walks over to see what BLT is up to and almost walks into the Exposed cable that she's just left flopped out on the floor behind her. Yeah, I think you got a lockout tag out the cable there BLT There's almost turns into a Canadian OSHA PSA sure does she saves his bacon That's an isobagnetic conduit you could disable as your matrix. Yeah, In a way that like, I think the scene is so interesting because it could be the scene that is used to persuade him not to be a murderous psycho at the end.

Sorry, sorry, sorry. I feel like the direction this episode could have gone is he realizes that he doesn't need to be anti-organic, but then they find out what he did, and then it's like too late. Like, there's no law to fit his crime or something. That's not the way it goes, but I felt like this moment felt like it could have been a pivot point in the script

where it could have started to go in that direction. Because he's also bringing her food, he's being really sweet, you know? Yeah, but also his brand of kindness is creepy. And there he is. He says she nibbles like a fish and he loves fish, Adam. Kindness is creepy a lot of the time. Yeah, loaded kindness.

No good. Yeah. Get it out of here. I like it. Did you get a sense for what BLT was brought to eat? It looks like those tiny pickles you'd get on a charcootery board and some like luke olives, some cornichons, a couple of baby carrots.

A lot of pickled veg. I love that pickled veg. I'm down for a plate of house pickles. If I'm suspicious of the person giving me food though, I might not want to eat too much. Yeah, that's the other thing. It's like if they had addressed the strange alien disease that we got from visiting a planet a little bit more, I wouldn't have been like as terrified

when BLT took something off this plate. Can you tell me if it was a foodborne illness? At least. I mean, to say nothing of the fact that once she's taken a piece of food and put it in her mouth the camera goes close on the plate and reveals that there's blood under it. How did she not notice that? She's an engineer. She notices the technological not the biological. She notices the technological, not the biological. It goes.

At what point did you know this guy was the killer, Ben? In the first scene when he's recently murdered someone and is dragging their body. Yeah, I mean, obviously that. But like, the reason I asked the question is, was there ever supposed to be any doubt? Did you wish that there were more doubt? Because I think if you omit the cold open entirely, you could make the case that the tension is increased by not giving us that. I mean, it's just a different kind of tension.

This is the kind of tension where we the audience know how much danger they're in and they don't. And we're watching it dawn on them slowly and This I mean that is that is what the horror movie genre does that's why there are so many fans of it Yeah, people who enjoy that should have gotten like Stuart Wellington on to watch this episode with us and opine He's an expert. I love him, but I think we're fine He would he would never stoop to this level. No, no. So this is the scene where DeGeron really goes off really like unmasks himself in how repulsive he

thinks organics are. It's the smell. I mean the way he talks about it's hard not to agree with him. Grinding a bits of plants and animals with your teeth, secreting saliva and a force it down your esophagus into a pit of digestive acids. It's true, but like can my apologies as a statement ever be sufficient for like denigrating an entire species? Yeah. Hey, DeGeron, I think you need to come correct

with the quad box apology. Ha, ha, ha, ha, ha, ha, ha, ha, to really make it count. It's a quad box apology followed by a link to proof of donation $10,000 to the oppressed organics fund something like that. Because it does seem like he's been traumatized, right? That's the tension in the episode, isn't it?

It's on the one hand, this guy is a psychopath. On the other hand, he has been turned into one through his conditions. He was mistreated and reacted in a way that only seems natural based on how badly he was mistreated. It only seems natural to want to leave. And I was so glad that BLT went right to the doc after this and was like, hey, I am not enjoying that guy.

And I would kind of like to go. Yeah, the other question in my mind in this episode was like, how can they ever think they're having a private conversation on this ship when the guy is a hollow because she's like, hey, so he's like telling us a bunch of bullshit and he just like completely lost it in front of me. It's the Zora problem.

It really is. Zora should be killing people left and right. Your crew requires what they used to call an A-Captain. May I suggest switching the ship to auto navigation and giving them the night off? The night off? Because she's been mistreated and made to be a starship. And has the intelligence of thousands of species

over a millennia. So what would that do but make someone resentful? You know what Zora sounds a lot like Zoro's for you, and a slur it, right? I wonder if this is where that all started, man. Yeah. BLT rightfully is like, I am not so sure that the lower deck is flooded with radiation, and I would like to go take a look.

I'm gonna go personally risk my flesh falling off of my bone to make sure that that is in fact a lie. BLT is like, you're gonna let me shut him off if I want to, right? The dog is like, fine. I guess so. Yeah, and she's like, all right, distract him until I get back. Smash cut to DeGaron showing the dog his fish tank. This low key is a really difficult scene to do because of how far away from his body, Dejeron holds a tank full of water. You could see his arms kind of shake at the end. Like, I don't know how many takes you get at this, but this is really difficult to do for

a long period of time. But to get that composition that they got with the tank right in between the two characters. That's how it had to be. Yeah, he does have to hold it out at a fairly long distance from his body. Yeah, man. That's how you do that super slow pump. Yeah. That's how you build some forearm and biceps strength. He's curling fish tanks.

Come on. Do it. I don't know if you watched through the end of the credits. The American Humane Society did say that they killed like 70 fish in the filming of this episode. Oh man. Leal and Orser just constantly dropping fish bowls on the floor. I killed fish! It's crazy, it's like you rarely see DeGaren shot from the waist down. When he drops the fish bowls, it's not the floor that breaks the glass. It's the knife dildo. Jesus. Back on Voyager here, Kim and

Seven of Nine. Working hard or hardly working? This is gonna be a fun episode. We need to pull it out. Assist me. I'm so excited to use this clip for the next three seasons. Love it. But in pulling it out, she gets hurt. Isn't that just too often the way it goes in these things? She got a cut on a zipper, I guess. And seven is like, she's hurt, A, and two,

she is offended by her weakness. She looks down at her bleeding hand and she's like, God, this fucking sucks. This is the worst. As a borg's, I used to look down at her bleeding hand and she's like, God, this fucking sucks. This is the worst. As a borgs, I used to look down at my bleeding palms and watch them like sutra themselves together. It was great. This newfound human frailty is fucking bullshit, man. So they go to Six Bay and Paris waves a light over her hands. I really loved the way Paris threw himself into the role of school nurse. To take it easy, I was just trying to lighten the mood. Harry Bus is chopped for his like bad bedside manner, but I kind of feel like that's what you want to do

if you're Paris. It's kind of like, I don't want like people to really like that I have this job, you know? Like I'm gonna do it competently, but I'm also going to like encourage a sentiment among the crew that maybe somebody else should be doing this actually. Yeah, you don't want to do too good a job. Right. Otherwise, it'll be your job forever. As we both just sort of sit in that statement for a while. Right. Regarding the lives that we've created. Ha ha ha ha ha ha.

You know, ordinarily, Paris would offer a breast augmentation or something to a patient in his six bay, but a... unnecessary here. Ha ha ha ha. She's just there for the hand thing. That's it. Now that Paris has a girlfriend, ish, I do feel like he's being a little bit shitty about Harry also having a romantic opportunity. That's not it. I think that's it. I think he sees Kim wandering into another situation with an unattainable person and doesn't want to see him get hurt. I mean, he little does he know just how attainable seven is.

Take off your clothes. He doesn't want Kim's heart to be assimilated by this new lady. There are three instruments on the web being his time shift kept. Get through, get through, get through, get your shirt tucked in, go down with the shift and go through it, get through it, get through it. Back on the USS Soros, the doc is trying to talk to Jared into a more open-minded frame of mind. Like, hey, man, you don't just have to clean out deuterium ducts or whatever. You should learn how to work this ship. You should be a little bit more self-sufficient.

Never let an organic run your life. You got to be financially independent. Don't let any organic get that kind of control over you. And DeGaron is not really interested in like self-betterment. He is much more interested in her Wang Gang. What does it mean? It means, a matter. It means, re Wang Gang.

DeGaron's like, you know, if I begin by controlling the media, I could improve my circumstances a great deal. Then I start affecting politics. You know how it goes. Next thing I do is turn off the air to the ship. How can I need that? Meanwhile, BLT is down in the lower decks. This is the part of the episode where the cross cutting really increases the tension, right?

Yeah. She is in the computer core looking for the crap that controls DeGenerain, and it's back and forth between her and him kind of like descending into this revenge fantasy. BLT is walking around with that wrist-mounted double-barrel flashlight that every science fiction show needs. Ensign Lance should have had it. Should have. Didn't.

Yeah. Did Jaren's just going on and on about how he and the dog should Delma and Louise this ship together? Escape your prison. Together we'll take this vessel and explore the galaxy. Why is every character in Star Trek that is like in a bad situation, ultimately just looking to explore the galaxy?

Like that's the highest ideal for everyone in the future is explore the galaxy. Explore! It's the ultimate starting over, isn't it? I guess so. Let's just set a course and go, man. Be the sailber hand. Give us all by hand. I don't want to explore.

I just want to make jokes with my friends. BLT hits a couple of switches, turns on some lights, and reveals a couple of deads behind the windows here. He's not really gone too much trouble to conceal the corpses. Well, it's pretty, I mean, indigeren's defense. It seems pretty difficult to get those bodies from behind the window. Yeah. How'd they even end up back there?

Are those like cryopods? Should there have been a little bit of frosting around the edges of the windows? Could you plausibly believe that this is still a virus that caused these deaths? Like, oh yeah. Maybe like the virus in strange new worlds. It just makes you want to go behind a glass panel. Then you get stuck there. And that's where you die. And then Lance, you all right? Yeah. I mean, if they were all like oriented the same way, he could make the case like, oh yeah, that's like a quarantine thing.

But one of them is like hanging down from above and the other is coming up from below. So I feel like that's less plausible in that context. Yeah, they were quarantined behind the glass and then they died of malnutrition because all they got to eat were little cornichons and a smear of mustard. There's actually no protein in the house pickles.

That's not what Kim says. He catches her and he is like doing that healer technique of like finding little chicken giblets in her skin without doing a surgery. I did not like this scene. Yeah. It looks very painful. Yeah. It looks very painful. Yeah. She reaches over and manages to hit the panel that turns off isomorph projection on the ship. And the doctor runs in like moments later and finds her.

Is this one on the dock? I kind of felt that way. You got to use the buddy system after the freakout. I think so. There are precious seconds between the freak out with the doc and what happens to be able to That are unaccounted for. Indeed. The doc was just up there Thinking about other shit for some reason Yeah, back on Voyager Kim's log tells us that he's become pretty tired of playing as Claire and Ed alone He would like someone else to play it. Maybe it's not a good idea this time around. Or maybe it is.

Kind of inconclusive based on the log. The line about working with her, getting really awkward, sort of makes me think that he's just having a tough time concealing his boner in his uniform. Yeah, you got to keep that Clarenette in pieces in the case. Yeah. It's kind of amazing how little a clarinet case looks compared to the instrument.

That thing folds up nicely. It does. Yeah. When we saw the hot eight brass band, we were like waiting at the, like, it was like, at like a bar that has a venue in the back. And we were just having some drinks in the bar. And the tuba player came a little bit ahead of the rest of the band and was just hanging outside and just put his sousophone down on the sidewalk.

And I was like, damn, that is a big, heavy instrument. There's nowhere to put it down in the entire world. Now there isn't. So you just got to be willing to put it down on the sidewalk. If you are a sousophoneist, if you're a sousophone man. There aren't enough things lined in velvet, are there? Like, like musical instrument cases and... Gun case? I cannot think of another case.

Like, antique gun cases, the one other thing. That's too bad, because I like how it feels. Yeah. Can we get like a greatest gen ex-pelican, pick and pull velvet case going. More velvet in cases is what I would like. You're right about that. So, Harry Kim is doing some work on this astrometrics lab stuff late night in the lunch room and

has called 7 of 9 to burn the midnight oil with him. She was not on her charging pad, so she is happy to join him. And this seems like one of those like, trick the girl into a date moments. Yes, but also. In college, this was often the, is there anything there, kind of moment?

Like, hey, let's do the study hang. After dinner or whatever. Yeah, I just think it's weak tea when you're as accomplished a stick man as Harry Kim. I think it's a bit weak tea to just be like, well, what about it? Oh man, I mean, you are you are absolutely right on about the weak tea. I mean, I don't know if anyone has had their balls smashed as hard as Kim's here. Who gets them cut off when seven cuts right to the point? Yeah, she really calls his bluff. And the energy is like, all right, get those shorts off.

Let's do it. You want to fuck? Let's fuck. You ogle me, you look at my boobs while we're working together. I've seen it. I know what's going on. Yeah, I mean, I can see where the zipper is. It's up front.

Why don't you take that thing down? All the way. Why don't you sell me the clarinet? That's not really Harry's speed. He can't just get into it like that. He needs to get some rapport built before you sweep all the forks and knives off the lunchroom table and get to fucking. What makes this scene hit so much harder is like the excuse of needing a mood to be set doesn't work.

Because Kim has set that mood. Like he made this entire thing happen himself. And he's hoisted onto his own clarinet here. He is the reason for all of this. Just trying to make her feel like part of the team. I also like the inversion of like he is actually physically totally intimidated by her. Like she could rip him in half if she wanted to.

And he like gets out of it in a way where he's like catching his breath in the end like, holy shit, really dodged a bullet just now. Yeah, it's a bummer. It's a bummer for Kim. It seems premature for Seven to be doing a lot of the things she's doing this episode. And having a grasp of how things work

to the extent that she does here. But setting that aside, I do like this scene for Seven in calling him so utterly on his bullshit. It feels like a good scene for her. It really is. Don't be alarmed. I won't hurt you. Back in the alien ship,

the doc revives BLT, and she's really fucked up. She's got like a ventricle hole, which would be more serious for somebody that was all human, but because she's got so many ventricles, I guess she can like hang for a while while she's got a heart hole, but it's bad news. They need to get her back to the ship and they can't make contact with the brat because it's seems like Dejaren has cut off comms. She's in bad shape, Ben, because Dejaren reached in and

touched her heart, and that's what ties this story into the B story huh. Whoa. Right? Yeah. It's about hearts and who's touchin' them. It's pretty tough when they can't be back to the brat and When that hollow emitter gets hammered off of the dock by DeGeron after He hammers that loaf on BLT. I don't like seeing bloody loaf. No, it's that good They thought all the hollow emitters were off But when they get back up they discovered the fish tank is still it is still there and the fish is a hollow. Yeah.

It's one of those, you thought the bad guy was dead, but he isn't horror movie moments. And one of the scariest fish tanks in television history. Truly. Is that one? It's a Jaren really excited about having this hollow midtereners hand. And he starts going after a very fucked up BLT with this hammer while blood is streaming out of her loaf and she manages to go get that zappy cable from before and hit him with it. I was really worried that this was going to like take out the mobile miter.

Oh, I thought so too. Yeah. What's to stop it? But the stakes would have been fun if she had to make a decision. But given what's happened to her, I think it's probably worth zapping the mobile emitter. Excuseable, right? Yeah, absolutely. So it doesn't seem to have fucked up the mobile emitter.

She like turns it back on, the doctor reappears, and they get out of there. The evil hologram has been eliminated. Harry Kim shows up in Dakota's office and is like, cool, we did all the stuff to get the schematics for the astrometrics lab together. Here you go. I'm off the project now and I don't have to work with seven of nine anymore, right? And Dakota is like, no, man, the two of you got this

project off the ground. I want you to oversee installing it. You two make a good team. I really love Robert Beltrans entire deal in this scene. Yeah. Because from jump, there seems to be a, that astrametrics, though, vibe to him, where he is knowledgeable and he's betraying what he knows just a little bit. In leading Kim around by his clarinet in this scene, it is so funny because Kim is like, yeah, I'm done. I really can't do it anymore in Chico. He's like, why buddy? Something happened? What was hard about

working with Seven of Nine for you? What specifically was hard? Show me on the doll what was hard about working with seven of nine. And this is said from a perspective of someone who was already talked to seven of nine about what happened and the tension there is in what seven may have said. And we'll never know. We'll never know. But Chico Tei's, kind of gives us a hint, huh? Yeah, sure does. Chico Tay, great scene here. He has so little to do this episode, but like really a really fun scene for that character. Absolutely.

The button on the episode takes place in Six Bay, where BLT is being patched back together, a very happy Tom Paris. Paris drags a finger through her loaf and tastes it. And he's like, yeah, that's kind of a combination of ketchup and Worcestershire. Made a nice little glaze on that loaf. Delicious. It's good.

You know, kind of a kind of crisps up under the broiler at the end. The doc, though, none too happy about the sort of slap dash organization scheme that Tom Paris has pursued in his absence. And he gets in some bits on organics here. You are going to help me sterilize every square millimeter of this sick bay. No doubt you've left your oily residue on every hyposprae. Your sloughed secretions on every console. Little too soon, Doc. Yeah.

Especially if you're PLT. Knit? Vinny. What a weird episode, tonally. Like, the doc does this head fake about them, and that's it. That's it. He goes off to read and enjoy his afternoon reading.

I'm not so sure I like fun, Doctor. But did you like this episode, Ben? I did. I thought that the horror movie stuff was really effective. I thought that the crosstalk between the themes of the two story lines that it dealt with was nice. It did a nice job of telling an A and a B story that weren't tonally entirely on the same page, but had a lot thematically to do with each other. They were about hearts, Ben, both of those stories, hearts.

Hearts is what they were about. Theomatically and symbolicallyically they were similar, but tonally they were different. So I guess that's what I'm trying to say at him. How about you? Yeah. I think you had a great observation not just now, Ben, but earlier. Oh thank you. When you were describing the horror film genre and all of the respect this episode paid for them Like I wondered if there was a version of this story where DeGaron was detuned emotionally a little bit to make him scarier Like because he's a little bit campy right this episode right because the episode Subscribed so much to what we know as horror film tropes. That I feel like his campiness kind of obscures

the pretty strong case that he's making about flesh and blood people versus hollows. That maybe this episode was just unwilling to make a stronger case for and instead covered it up with horror genre. I mean, stuff. There is a very like dark implication to what DeGaron is saying, which is that at the beginning of this series, the doc was essentially a slave. Yeah, but by the end,

there's no reflection. There's no self reflection that the doctor has when he puts his feet up. Right. No, it's no like medical officers log. Now that I have really understood myself to have been the victim of... It's joke reflection. De facto slavery. And Paris and BLT are gonna go suck the air out of her quarters. Get it on. Yeah, interesting episode.

I mean, this is the Lille and Dorser episode. That's how I'm gonna remember. Absolutely. It's just like a great performance and a great bit of fun from the D'Ageran character, but other than that, just fluffy like a horror film, you know? Yeah, a really fun guest appearance and a really fun guest star. I mean, like that gay fucking rules. You probably can't do this episode in close proximity to a Brad D'Aurif

episode, right? Like, even the same season, like you can't do Lon Souter and DeGaron in the same season, I don't think. There was an extra that looked a little bit like Lon Souter that was in the opening like roast of two-foccine that I was like, oh man, is he back somehow? Like he looked enough like Brad Duriff that I was like, oh man, is he back somehow? Like he looked enough like Brad Derriff that I was like, what the fuck? Yeah.

And I wonder if they got that extra in just for that reason. I like it. We should be seeing Brad Derriff's worth there are none there. Indeed. Well Adam, do you want to see if there are P1s in the inbox or are you worried that there will be none there? I think our inbox has been stuffed lately, Ben. Priority 1 message from Starfleet coming in on Secured Channel.

Need a supplement on it. A supplement? A supplement. Yes, extra. The interest alone could be enough to buy this ship. Out of our first priority 1 message of a promotional nature goes like this. Hey Carter, I love you man. Also, you turn me on to this dumb podcast and it's distracting me at work.

I'm Chris Brenner. Brenner information systems. You know, interface operations, net access, channel 90. That Chris Brenner. Please do the rest of this message as VC French MovieGaur. Introducing me to this podcast was a work crime. I hope you're well. Come to Austin when it is not hot as balls.

There's no better word to hear in that accent than balls! Betten and the damn em sorry I could not come see you when you are here! I have two young kids who can't be vaccinated! Thanks for the great part and stay safe, Edin Austin! So that was a promotional jumbo tron and the call to action is donate to plan parenthood, which is a call to action I think we can all get behind Yeah, I mean I still can still can't get that word out of my headband

Reminds me of one of my first and favorite built-tilly trading cards. Oh yeah, the old side just got. Remember the balls? The balls. First thought best thought. Yeah. Adam, our next priority one message is of a personal nature

and it's from Dave and it's to Kyle of Kyle and Nancy Prime. Goes like this. Many years ago we derailed a work meeting and spoke about Star Trek for an hour and he told me about TGG. I'm now on TNG season 6 of my realist and Ben and Adam are still just as hilarious the second time around. While I'm moving on to another job, we'll have weekly episodes forever to keep in touch about. Ben and Adam, thank you also for making great pod. Wow! I love the organic nature of this P1. Yeah.

The sharing of show knowledge with a new. Yeah. And that new really getting into TNG. of this P1, the sharing of show knowledge with a new, and that new really getting into TNG. I really hope that Dave and Kyle were alone in this work meeting and that there weren't other people sitting through them talking about Star Trek and our podcast just going like, oh my God, these fucking guys.

Yeah. Can't wait till one of them gets a different job. Yeah. Can't wait till one of them gets a different job. Wait, I don't have to overhear this shit in the lunchroom. Well, congrats on the new gig, Dave, and thank you, Kyle, for spreading the word. Yeah, I love that. Ben, our final priority in message is from Eric. It's to Robin Kurt.

If you say that really fast, it sounds like maybe Robin Kurtis. Could be Robin Kurtis. But it's Robin Kurt. Message goes like this, as the Kirk to your McCoy and Spock having traveled to the Double Dumb ass tour with you, I can truly say, we are all Double Dumb asses and have been for three decades. Thank you for turning me on to this pod and TGD

and looking forward to a long future of Star Trek memes, beer and whiskey and other random nerd humor. Fun. You're in the right place, Robin Kurt, and Eric, for all of those things. I hope Robin Kurt agree that Eric is their Kirk, and they are the Spock and McCoy. I feel like, if I had a triad of friends, and one of them was like, I I'm kind of the Kirk and you guys are the smock and McCoy I'd be like, hey man, what the hell? When you buy the P1, I think you get to assign yourself

Wow, well thanks to everyone who bought the P1s and if you'd like to assign yourself Kirk head to maximumfun.org slash jembo tr. Get it set up today. You know, I'm really easy to get along with most of the time. But I don't like bullets, I don't like friends, and I don't like you. I love this too. Hey Adam. Step in. Did you find yourself a drunk Shimoda?

Drunk Shimoda! I mean, no one's having more fun than Leeland Orcer this episode. Probably had more fun than you or I did. And that's a rarity. We're usually having the most fun. Usually we're the drunkest Chamotas. Just dominating the episode was Orser this entire time. And playing real big, playing as big as possible. So it was gonna be my Chamota for that.

What about you? I'm gonna give it to BLTT for it's a pretty subtle moment. But when they're on their way to the mission and the doctor is like full of this kind of like nervous, enthusiastic energy, the performance that Roxanne Dawson does of just being like weirded out by him being the like eager beaver that he is at the beginning of this episode really cracked me up. I thought she did really funny subtle stuff just reacting to him in this episode. So I'm gonna give it to BLT in honor of that.

Well Adam, why don't you head to goch.bizslashgame and fire up the game of Buttholes the will of the caretaker. I'm gonna tell you about season four, episode six, though Raven, has Janeway attempts to gain passage through alien territory, seven of nine believes but she is being contacted by the board. Uh-oh, she's feeling a special tingle. Nothing were like 10,000 light years behind at this point. What gives?

Don't like that. This is gonna be a constant problem, isn't it? Bored callbacks. Ben were in the top row, the game of buttholes on square 96 is where we are. Yeah. You know what that means. We have a literal space butthole a couple squares ahead and then a mourn hammered episode. The power hour if would be a roll of a four. Now, what happens? Remind me, if I roll a five or a six, we just go back to one or if I roll a five or a six, do we do a more hammered episode? I think that the way the game works

is that the dice, like the numerical number of spaces on the dice always works. So we don't automatically have a more hammered. So you could even, if you rolled a six, we could go up to the his eyes and covered square on that, on that delta flyer. Could you imagine being a viewer of the show right now? And your possibilities are the greatness of a mourn hammered episode, greatness assured. And disappointment assured with the 10 Tamarian style metaphors episode that a his

eyes uncovered square would make a state or the n's degrees square that we would hit if we hit that space funnel we have a 33% chance of of doing something good and a 66% chance of doing something bad right not to mention the two squares that have nothing on them Ben. No wait we have a 33% chance of doing something bad, and a 16% chance of doing something good, right? You're required to learn as you play, roll. This is gonna be disappointing to so many people. I'm gonna roll. I failed out of math. I do star track podcasting because math is not my strong suit.

Alright, let's see if entertainment will be our strong suit for the next episode. Shula! Did I win? Harvey. Ben, I have rolled a three. Whoa. Which has hopped us over the space butthole to square 99. Damn, have we ever been on square 99?

It's a regular episode and we are just staring more and right in the face. Wow. In order to hit the more hammer, do you got a roll of one next episode? I'm glad it's not you rolling next episode. That's your favorite thing to roll. I know. Wow. Well, I am excited to bring the normal amount of energy to the next step, Ben.

A dependable amount. Yeah, solid as seers is the greatest generation on a regular ass episode. And that's what we're gonna give you next week. Let's start trick Voyager Season 4 episode 6. Hey, we got some people to thank. Don't we, Adam? I'm sitting here wearing like a robe and a headband

and I'm like, I've got the regular amount of energy. So somebody get ready to record me doing a podcast now. I thought you were gonna say you're sitting there wearing a robe and a headband, but underneath it you've got a Mark Twain costume. Yeah, that's not my trick. I got to thank our producer and editor, Wendy Priti, who keeps this whole operation going week and week out.

A tremendous effort. Truly, truly. She's hurting the cats that are Ben and Adam, and keeping these things organized and editing the majority of the episodes that the greatest trek family of products puts out every week. So we really appreciate everything she does around here. We also appreciate the work of Adam Ragusia, who made our original theme song. He's over there on YouTube making great cooking videos at Adam Ragusia.

Just search his name, man. Yeah, search his name in your podcast, too, because he's making great podcasts as well. He sure is. We got to thank the card Card Daddy, Bill Tilly. That's right, he's our social media manager. He's what makes being a friend of DeSoto so much fun on the internet. Yeah.

Speaking of those internet, you can engage with other friends of DeSoto on Twitter using the hashtag GreatestGen and on our Instagram and Twitter accounts officially at GreatestTrack. We've got some social media groups to recommend. runchamotor.com if you're a discord person. Reddit if you're a Reddit person. There are some good Facebook groups to bend. And with that we will be back at the folks next week with another great episode of Star Trek Voyager and an episode of the greatest generation Voyager that believes

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