The Greatest Generation - Resting Prophecy Face (DS9 S3E15)

Episode Date: December 3, 2018

When Cardassian scientists arrive on DS9 with a plan to communicate through the wormhole, it’ll take more than a Bajoran with a picket sign to stop Commander Sisko’s mission. But when prophecy turns into reality, O’Brien and the Cardassians must work past their differences in order to save the day. How many Peck’s Bad Boy films are in the Marvel cinematic universe? In which quadrant is the bedroom? What is the half-life of embarrassment? It’s the episode that doesn’t blink. Ever.

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It's a Star Trek podcast by a couple of guys. You are still just a little bit embarrassed about having a Star Trek podcast. I'm Adam Pryanaka. I'm Ben Harrison, and still haven't quite learned how to go through an intro without tripping over ourselves. I thought I did fine. Oh, yeah, I mean, you know, it was kind of like you're walking down the sidewalk and there's

a root growing under one of the panels of concrete that raised the lip in between panels and your foot caught it, but you didn't face plant. Well, you're going to sound real foolish, Ben, when I re-record that intro perfectly. And then, and then you sound like a super dumbass by criticizing something perfect. Well, a double super dumbass to you, Adam. I occasionally will indulge in re-recording myself saying something if I feel like I can deliver it properly.

Ben, I've never done that. Are you kidding? Yeah, I've never done it. Wow, do you feel that it's like sacrosanct or? I mean, I wouldn't use that word. I think there's an element of fairness to it that I don't want, like, it's not that we are in competition. Yeah. But I would never want to give myself an unfair edge.

Like, we both edit every other show. I think everyone knows that. Yeah. But in that edit, I think most people at this point are under the misunderstanding that Rob's, Rob's, Rob's, Rob's edits this show, which is not true. Yeah. No.

We love Rob's, but he doesn't edit this show. It's true. I were glad to take the credit for how great this show, which is not true. No. We love Rob's, but he doesn't edit this show. It's true. I were glad to take the credit for how great this show is. It's for sure. One of the few things that we can take the credit for. But yeah, I mean, when we edit the show, I think we are both interested in making the both of us sound great.

There's something I'm resistant to about putting in that kind of effort to only benefit me. Oh, to the degree that I haven't done it yet. I will say that the times that I've done it, it's been because I was cutting like a big chunk out and I needed some connective tissue from one idea to another. To your credit, I have never been able to detect that, and we QAR shows relentlessly. I may be feeling more at peace than I have in a while. I just had hundreds of needles put into me and then removed from my body. Like a half an hour ago. Would you say it was a religious experience, Adam? I would not. What would you like to have one? It's good to see you all in church.

It's cool to the Bible. That's the way God wants it. I don't know why, dude. All these questions? Is a little blind thing too much to ask? I mean, I do have this Bible here, right on my desk. Why don't we turn to a page? Let's do it. Ben, I think I'm content to just like flip to a random page.

Yeah, I think that's the way to go. See what that tells us. I think that the Bible... We haven't done this a lot because I think the show Bible for TNG is full of like bite-sized chunks of information and the DS9 show Bible is more just like pages and pages of text, right? I think I'm mildly unconvinced that this Bible is the true Bible for the show. And I think it may be because of what you said. Like, I would expect a show Bible to be more than 20 pages.

It seems not to have been organized in any way. Yeah, Ben, I've right to plight or given. This is the edition made 12 June 1992. So begins the reading about Nag. One of the other Ferengy who works for Quark has a teenage son who will become friends with the commander's son. Nag is Peck's bad boy. The kind of kid our parents didn't want us to associate with. What is this drivel?

What the hell is Peck? Peck's bad boy. Henry Peck, popularly known as Peck's bad boy, is a fictional character created by George Wilbur Peck. First appearing in 1883 novel Peck's Bad Boy and his Pah, The Bad Boy, has appeared in numerous print, stage, and film adaptations. The character is portrayed as a mischievous prankster, and the phrase Pecs Bad Boy has entered the language to refer to anyone whose mischievous or bad behavior leads to annoyance or embarrassment.

Oh Jesus. I realize the novelty in saying that, well, criticizing something read from the show Bible would give me a fucking break. I mean, you and I are pretty well read, learned people. Have you heard of Peck's Bad Boy as a, like, as a shorthand? It's a new one on me. Apparently there was a 1921 film called Pex Bad Boy. Oh, and remade in 1934. It was like the Spider-Man of its time. It's constantly remaking it.

So there was like a weird emo sexy version of Pex Bad Boy that like had his hair combed down into his face. Yeah, they made five terrible Pex Bad Boy films and then somehow one good PlayStation 4 game based on Pex Bad Boy. I wish I had that many chances to boot and then reboot an expensive idea. Yeah. Most people only get one boot, right? Pecs bad boys are licensed to print money though, Adam. That's why they won't sell the rights back.

Wow. That was great. I mean, it was pretty terrible. It might be the worst Bible study we've ever done. I mean, speaking of, of Herkulean editing tasks. Ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha So ends the bad boy Ben, tech be with you. And also with your Adam. Well what do you say we wrap up Bible study. This the worst example thereof.

And turn to the episode we came here to review today. It's season three episode 15. Density. Do you realize how incredible this is? No, of course you don't. Kind of a neat idea for what's going to happen in this episode. It's important to be able to communicate to the other side of the wormhole. Yeah. How are they going to make that happen?

Yeah. And it's also important to start doing PC things with the cardacians now that all the treaties are in place. The Federation has a Cardassian peace treaty and now the pejorans do. And they're going to collaborate on turning the wormhole into something that you can transmit information through. It seems like that would be pretty critical to ever doing missions on the other side of the wormhole. I'm surprised that they haven't done this mission already. Like how long have they known about the wormhole in showtime? Three years? What is to stop the gem hadar from just destroying relay after relay on the other side of this thing? They should cloak the relay as what they should do. Oh yeah, they gotta go get another Romulan cloaking device.

Wait, but if it's cloaked, can it send or receive? See, it's a huge problem that you're asked to ignore. I mean, it makes me think that the dominion is a lot weaker than they flex to be, because they said like don't ever come back to the side of the wormhole. And then they basically disappeared, right? Like they haven't actually been enforcing that proclamation.

Yeah, all they seem to be interested in at this point is having the founders fuck with Odo. Like as an experiment. And only when he like heads over there, you know, only when he's like close by, right? Yeah. Part of the diplomatic exchange program thing happening here is that the Cardassians are sharing scientists. Yeah. It's a brand new thing. They're sending a couple of scientists to the station and like the opening scene is Cisco and Odo talking about what security measures will be in place for having Cardassians around,

but also kind of the the long view that Cisco is taking on this saying like I want it and want to sort of normalize Cardassians being around here in a way that you know people get used to. I want the Cardassians to feel like guests, not prisoners. I thought this was a weird scene because it sort of engaged in a fairly vicious act of garrick erasure. Right. He has a business there. That guy's always around the promenade.

Garrick has saved both of their lives a couple of times. Yeah. I don't understand it. He's as close to being a main cast character as you can get without being one and the idea of him being Toe Hulled or some, you know, having built a lot of good will so far or potentially being a problem for this You know, and none of that is discussed. I miss Garrick. Yeah. He's a great character He's one of the best.

Why did you say that? What I want to know is why you said that. Because that right now is the best part of the show. Is this the worst episode we've ever done? Is that what you're saying? Yeah. Wow. It you're saying? Yeah. Wow. It's just them saying, shit.

It's only getting better from here, right? I guess we could try to claw our way back to funny. That's what we do. We're digging ourselves a hole. Now we get a get out of it. We get to make little impressions in the mud and fill it with rocks and then melt those rocks with our phasor so they become spikes and then use those spikes to climb out of the

hole we're in the bottom of. Bullshit, man. Way to use a Star Trek specific metaphor for this. Well done. It's the only thing I can think of when somebody talks about taking themselves out of a hole. Cisco's nervous like someone who's preparing for a house guest. Yeah. Let's to make sure they're comfortable.

And Quark is also preparing for these house guests in his own special way, which is to break out the good wine, right? Yeah. Like not the wine that you drink on a weeknight, but the good stuff. I have a bottle of canar for each of them. It's like when you get to gold status

with your star wood account, you know, they come bring a bottle of wine by your room. Is that a thing that they do? Yeah. Yeah. Maybe someday that'll happen to me. I actually recently found out that I would have on our most recent tour leg, except for you put your star wood number on my room and not mine.

So you earn two nights on my back, buddy. As a uspritz Shimoda travel agent, I guess that's what I get to do. That's what the advantage is. Oh, what a terrible mistake. Oh, well, I always bank error in Adam's favor. Oh, I fell over into all these extra points. Oh, I fell over again. I'm just walking into status rakes. Yeah, well, I hope you enjoy all those points at him. But Quark is trafficking in in Canar that he's had in his store room since the occupation and and and

DAX does something that I think is a little bit insane which is she just opens one of the bottles like I thought your bottle of wine to open DAX I kind of like this version of her as the eight generations of DAX like yeah like the she care of course she's gonna like she'll open up a bottle in front of it everyone like what's the worst thing that could happen to her? Yeah, it's that old person that doesn't give any fucks anymore. Yeah. Yeah.

And I don't think they do that enough with her. I think she could be a constant chaos agent for that reason. That would be such an amazing thing to see her character start to do more of. I kind of think this is a moment of that, but what she discovers when she opens this bottle is that the canar is corked. This canar has gone bad. What? And it would not be a nice present to give some honored guests after all. Ben, when I graduated college, I learned that my parents had squirreled away a nice bottle

of champagne for the occasion. My parents do not as a rule. I had never seen them drink champagne before this moment. And so it wasn't a party, it was just the four of us. And so they dusted off this old bottle, they opened it up, ported into some glasses, and it was brown. It was very, very brown. Whoa. And I had never seen a corked bottle of champagne before or since. Yeah, I don't know if I would have guessed that that was possible with champagne.

I don't know what happened to this bottle. I know that they had had it for many, many years. Yeah. So Quark is there basically because he sees the, the profit potential of a greater and better relationship with the Kardashians. That is basically it. Yeah, you know, he's seeing like, it's not growing his wedge of the pie.

It's growing the pie. Like, if there's more people coming to the station, he can make more money. He's got big plans. Too bad he's sitting on 10 cases of bad canar. Yeah, that's something that is going to be hard to profit from. I think the lesson here, the lesson from my story, the lesson from Quark, is like, if you've got something nice, like a bottle of wine, don't wait on that too long. Yeah.

Nice things are meant to be used and enjoyed. Yes. Don't wait on that too long. Yeah. Nice things are meant to be used and enjoyed. Yes. Don't wait until they spoil. Yeah, just gotta get into it. Gold to cut, the cut, gold to cut. So. Well, Adam, the next scene is Cisco hanging in his office and taking a visit from Vetici Yerka.

He says it's urgent. And this is something that I think we've all probably suspected, but never actually seen any evidence of, which is that the profits actually made prophecies. Talk about profits a lot on this show, but prophecies almost never. Yeah, I feel the same way. And like for as mystical as the Vedics and the guys have been, I feel like few of them

have really copped to the idea of fortune telling. Yeah, that plays an interesting role in this. Like there's, you know, the profits exist out of time so they can show you glimpses of things that happen deep in the future and there's this 3,000 year old prophecy trick horse third When he first encountered the org of change. I'm afraid I don't know it this Vedic has interpreted to mean that these Cardassian scientists that are on their way are actually Harbingers of the destruction of the wormhole that are on their way are actually harbingers of the destruction of the wormhole. Hmm, couldn't get this guy's face out of my head.

He seems like a real that guy, you know? Yeah, he is. This is Eric Avari. He's been in a bunch of things. A handful of movies like Stargate and The Mummy. Yeah, unfortunately where I remember him most is Mr. Deeds. Did a little time on Babylon 5? Hey, whether you're watching Babylon 5 or acting in it,

I think you call it the same thing, do-in-time. It's my position on the subject. Yeah. Well, he was such a big fan of Bruce Bocks Lightner that he really wanted to get a chance to work across from the great one. You mean the great Bert Badnighter? Oh, I think you might be referring to Brent Bunt Muncher.

I am indeed, man. You're the same. You know the thing about this guy's face besides being familiar is it seems uniquely able to share a scary prophecy with someone. Like he just has a face for religion. He really does. Yeah. Resting prophecy face.

Yeah. Yeah, that's him. Ha ha ha. This is, this puts Cisco in a tough spot because, you know, he's staying there with this Fedic and Major Kira staring at him and they're like, well, there it is, the religious truth of the matter and he's like, uh, yeah, but I have orders, guys.

Yeah, and this is gonna be a conflict that plays out throughout the episode. The idea of Cisco's inherent emissariness and his resistance to that. Yeah. Right. Like, there's nothing he can do to not be the emissarian. Everybody's eyes, but he doesn't necessarily buy any of it. And he's trying to be respectful. But I have no intention of calling this project off.

It's easier to be respectful of someone's religion when their religion isn't like predicting certain doom. Ha, ha, ha, ha. Yeah, and it's something that most of the time, they're fairly compatible, right? Like, he can be the commander of the station and also a religious figure at the same time, but this is like one of those moments

where his orders are in defiance of what all the religious people want his orders to be. You don't get a lot of this either. It seems like Cisco would have a really hard time walking the promenade Unfucked with by the large Bejure and population there for this reason. It seems like this would be happening every time. Yeah I and they talk about like this guy is gonna stay with his followers and and kind of make trouble because the because of what they believe

So Cisco humor sim, you know, protest all you want, but we're gonna see this thing through. And then after he leaves does that thing where he's like, okay, well that happened, why don't we stick a couple of security people on him? I don't want them making any trouble while in the Kardashians are here. We get like a little breakdown of what the prediction is.

There's gonna be three snakes. They're gonna like go to the wormhole and open it up and burn it down. And so like the concern is that the celestial temple as the cajurin's style it will be destroyed. Yeah, all they need to do is keep the snakes out. Seems pretty easy. Yeah, it's one of those episodes

where the goal is to prevent, you know, steaks from happening, you know. So they go down to meet these Cardassian scientists. One of the first things that they tell the vet is like, hey, there's actually only two Cardassian scientists coming. So you can rest easy. And he's like, no, there will be a third coming along. Don't worry.

And so they head down, sure enough, two ladies walk off of the transport. I'm Dr. Ulani Belor, Galora Rajal. I feel like the female cardacians have had a muted blue on their forehead spoon previously. These two ladies have a really vivid popping blue color up there. Yeah, it's very arresting, isn't it? Do you think that that's a genetic difference between females and males on Cardassia or do you think that's makeup? I kind of think it's Maybelline, Ben.

I wasn't looking at Galora's spoon because I was too distracted by her high-top fade. Yeah. I feel like most Cardacians wear their hair in a fairly tightly knotted arrangement in your female. And Galora's got an updo that really goes up. Yeah, and she's got one of those headbands that girls in the 80s would wear, where it just like sits over top of your head.

And if you wanted to have like a bump, you could like put it on and then shift it forward two inches to give a little bump but instead of going over top of her head she's like put it onto the back of her of her high top fade to like cinch it in the middle. Yeah. It is a really wild look. Thank you, Commander.

You know what? She's on a work trip. That's probably the safest place to try out a new look. Right. You know around people that you aren't familiar with? Low stakes. And it's a really fun meeting of professionals here too because they start really stiff and nervous and and they end up dropping those formalities really fast and kind of copying to the nervous tension of the situation in a really fun way. I liked it. And the nervous tension is established both in the performances, but also in the writing,

like the way Cisco introduces himself, but and they kind of jump on introducing themselves before he can introduce Kira. So you're like, is he going to introduce Kira or is that like already, is that ship sailed? Like, what are we gonna do about the fact that Kira has not been introduced yet? That's like next level dialogue writing

when you start writing interruptions and that kind of pattern into your dialogue, it's good. That was fun. It also does the thing where it makes another case that scientists are only good at science and aren't very good at anything else. And that's a vibe that kind of permeates a lot of characters and star trek.

It reminded me a little bit of that episode where Dr. Crusher took a bunk bed into the sun. You know, they're working with the Ferengy scientist and the Klingon scientist and you're getting to see members of societies that we have like basically one association with that do other things. Yeah, like there's the culture of alien races but then there's the culture of scientist. Yeah. That seems to supersede alien culture. Yeah, and they- As a way of being. And they can like not be in uniform like like all of that stuff is really fun to see. Yeah, these ladies seem pretty cool. I'm sure everything's gonna go fine for them.

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Come to a Ford, Alvarez. Come to a Ford, Alvarez. Exactly. So we have a McLaughlin group. If you want. Where they are talking over, you know, they're basically setting up a mesh Wi-Fi that will cover, you know, have coverage not just in the alpha quadrant, but also in the gamma quadrant.

The bedroom being what I call the gamma quadrant. Yeah, so far away from the router. 70 million light years away from the router or whatever. All of the putting down of the swords that happen upon their arrival has sort of gone away because there's a kind of professional vanity at work here during this meeting between the Cardassian women and O'Brien. I am Chief Miles Edward O'Brien. This is pretty defensive about some of the improvements that he's made to the station that they don't seem to understand.

Well, I can figure those coils myself. The variance was less than 0.01%. Which, as you saw, was unacceptably high. I mean, one of the scientists slips up and refers to the station as Taraknoor. Like, it cuts back to O'Brien's face and he gets like real angry about that. It's like a holiday dinner where someone refers to the dad's new wife as mom instead of... Yeah. Like, it's that kind of awkwardness.ness. Oh, by the way, Dayjar is coming. There's a third scientist that needs to make an appearance. Yeah. The third snake, right? They kind of drop this in as they as they walk out of the room. And Cisco

is like, oh, cool, good meeting. Everybody enjoy. And Kira is just sitting there at the end of the table stunned. Another colleague of ours, Deshar, will be arriving later today. Just like in a prophecy. Cisco could have rolled his eyes here, right? And been just fine. You don't lose any respect for Cisco if he does. Yeah.

I think his appetite for humoring Kira about this is a problem in this episode. Yeah, he doesn't want to upset her deeply held convictions or make that a point of contention in their professional relationship. Even though she's the one that's actively doing that. Right, like debating the religious is always a little bit tricky because there's an element

of what they believe about something that is not couched in measurable truth about the world. Right. So it's not even a place that he can debate her. So he just has to like, sisco eyes to commercial. God, I wish I could do that in real life. Just get out of any debate. I see you trying Adam. I see you trying all the time. I'm always looking for that camera. Yeah, is this my angle? I've never been able to find it.

We come back and Cisco is in Oto's office learning a little bit more about our buddy, Vedic Yarka. It turns out that Vedic Yarka is no longer Vedic at all. He was stripped of his title two months ago. He reps Vedic, but he's like part of a splinter group of the Bajoran religion. He was so against the peace treaty that they're like, actually, that's a little much,

Yarka, we're gonna defrock you. He was wearing that frock that said, property of Vedic assembly, you know? Yeah. And like big, you know, slabs, Sarif, font of every athletic department. It kind of informs every decision this guy makes and it turns his presence on the station into the Hail Mary to scuddle the piece process again that it seems to be. Yeah, I wish

he had a bigger role in the episode because he kind of disappears for very long stretches. Well, what he's effective at is like disrupting the thinking that Sisko's had about things from the start. Like, he kind of throws the smoke bomb into the room between he and Kira, and it creates attention between them that runs throughout. Yeah, and Odo is kind of calling Sisko on that in this scene. All humanoids have an agenda of some sort and that their agendas can influence them without their even realizing it. Cisco has convinced himself that he's just doing his job and seeing things through

as he's supposed to and I was like, no man, don't act like you're not ultimately kind of serving yourself in this whole project. You want to see the peace treaty be successful and you wanna do all the things you wanna do and acting like that's not, to some extent, influencing the way you're making your decisions

is disingenuous. This is not a good Cisco episode and I don't mean that in the sense that Cisco is a bad character in it. What I mean is that Cisco didn't ask. Odo flips a chair around Adam and starts telling Cisco what he thinks. And this is right on the heels.

Straight talk from Odo. Yeah, and this is right on the heels of Kira unsolicitedly telling Cisco about how the religious prophecy that Yarkha has spit is going to influence the decisions that he needs to make for the rest of the episode. Again, Cisco didn't ask, and this is the sort of shit that you wouldn't be able to pull on Picard.

Yeah. Yeah, I think they should respect him more. And I understand why these scenes are here to help forward a story, but this isn't a good look for Cisco. Yeah, but also like his fallibility makes him kind of interesting as a character. I think Picard's infallibility makes him interesting as a character too, but this might be a symptom of them trying to write for a captain who is not Picard.

I can't remember the last time someone asked for permission to speak really to Ben Sisco. And I'm kind of, it's kind of turning into a problem. Like it's not that I want to fear Sisco's recrimination about being talked to socially. It's that I think there's a baseline level of respect that he should have that seems a little low for a commanding officer. Right. So surprise, surprise. O'Brien has gone out to a group dinner with the scientists from Cardiacia and DAX.

They don't expect me to show up for these formal dinners. And they're sitting around and DAX and the science ladies are having a pretty nice conversation. O'Brien's a little bit, you know, like arms crossed just kind of like staring at his plate. I love how this is blocked, because his seat isn't even at the table. Like he's clearly like-

He shoved it way back. Yeah. Basically, every time I've ever gone to a group dinner, how I wind up looking by the end of the thing. Ooh, yeah, yeah. I definitely resemble this also. And then on the drive home, my wife was like, what the fuck is wrong with you?

And I'm like, what? What? She's like, you can't conceal anything about what you're feeling. You make everybody feel terrible. That's a fun way to be. It's the best. This is when your girl Dijar shows up. We weren't expecting you so soon.

She has the third Viper from Cardiassia. She's kind of the strong silent type initially. When she arrives, she doesn't really speak unless spoken to and just does a lot of kind of mean mugging and nodding. She kind of has the galron eyes of the three. She's got a really intense resting look. She's really pretty. Like she's got these giant window eyes that distinguishes her from the rest of them.

I feel like that's partly a civilian cosplay thing. Yeah. Cause like Galora and Ulania are also like fairly lovely and that's not something that we've seen done with female cardacians before. They've tended to style them in a way that is very severe and I don't think that that's what they went for here and that's kind of an interesting

tweak. I didn't even think loveliness was possible with this makeup. There's a fun conflict between them because Galora and Ulani seem like the type of scientists that take a lot of business trips and kind of relish in the life of being on the road and meeting different people and working scientists to scientists and like eating strange food for example. And Dijar is more the kind that would book a hotel room for their friend, but then take all the star wood points for themselves. We talked about this a few times before on this show, but how food acts as a shorthand for either cultural exchange

or cultural difference. Like, it really speeds the knowledge of someone's relationship to someone else. And you can tell right away that the two scientists we met at the beginning are very different from this new one because of their feelings on food. This like quark puts out a snack tray of culturally relevant crudite for the cardacians.

I don't really care for cardacian cuisine. They wanna be eating as if they're members of the culture they're visiting. I don't quite buy that. I think what, like the truth of what they're trying to say is I don't like it when somebody else makes my home cuisine. Yeah. Cause I don't like my home cuisine as an,

I've never heard anybody say that. Like, of all the countries I've ever visited, you know. Like I've never met somebody from Japan that was like Japanese food sucks. I like Chinese food, you know. God, that's such a fucking great punch up. And I wish it was put that way. Like, how much more interesting would it be

if Ulaani and Galora were like, you know, if that thing happens all the time where you get your home food in some other world and it's just, it's not great. There's something wrong about it. Yeah. Like when I was in Ethiopia a couple of years ago, at some point somebody put a plate of food in front of me and it was a burger and french fries. Right.

And it was like somebody had seen a picture of a burger and french fries, but had never tasted it. Yeah. And it was just like, there were so many things that were weird and bad about it. Like, the bun and patty were like two inches bigger in diameter than any burger I'd ever seen. They were like, under salted. There was a bone.

Yeah. It was every, it just tasted weird and wrong, you know? Yeah, you know, like in describing that, it's a, it's a more difficult thing to pull off. Right. To be quite honest about it, I've been a pair of fucking pays. Mr. Bucket, I have to refer to Bertrand Wendt and State School. I don't use the bucket anymore. Galora and O'Brien, they've got to rewire a bunch of shit on Deep Space 9 to get the receiver ready, because the defiant is heading into the wormhole to set up the transponder.

The stuff on Deep Space 9 is far from figured out, because the Kardashians came under the assumption that they would find a tarotc North that had been totally unretrofitted and unmodified from the way they left it, which does not turn out to have been true. But they figured like, why don't we head out there and set up the relay anyways. One of the things I noticed in this bridge scene at him is that Cisco has a thermos tucked into the side of his captain's chair. Did you see that? I didn't.

Give me the time code on that. You get a pretty good shot of it if you go to 20 minutes and 54 seconds. Do you think that Avery Brooks' personal thermos? I don't know, because it's definitely a thermos and not like a design element of the chair, because you get to see it swivel, like when Kira and Ulaani come in, like you see the other side of the chair and there isn't a thermos on that side. So Cisco probably wants some soup to have during this mission. Let's have soup all that's been good.

That's the thing about having an item like this on your set is that you have to be aware of thermos continuity. Wow. What kind of soup do you think he has? Jambalaya. How do you know? I would be making runs with Commander Cisco pretty quickly if I worked on this bridge.

I would be making literal runs with Commander Cisco pretty quickly if I worked on this bridge. I would be making literal runs with Commander Cisco of what I was eating was gumbo on the bridge. There's a fun scene back on DS9 of O'Brien and Galora arguing about all of this changes that O'Brien has made to the station. And it's a fun start track conversation because it kind of teases the idea of the multiple backup systems that Starfleet has for every single fucking thing. In a crunch, I wouldn't like to be caught without a second backup. Like coincidentally, they're having this conversation at the station that has a history of electrocuting people, like that little bunker side station at Ops. Yeah. Like sort of a terrible history there. One of the most electrocuted places.

Yeah. She also at one point, can't explain all of the engineering decisions she's made to him because she doesn't have time and he's like, oh, you're being racist against humans. I see how it is and she's like, no, no, no, no. Then just don't seem to have a head for this sort of thing. That's why women dominate the sciences. What happened to all of O'Brien's anti-cardi sensibility?

I don't get a whiff of that. I don't either. I think it's either that he's doing a great job of suppressing that. Well, he works or they forgot in the scripts. You know who isn't suppressing her true beliefs is Kira, on the bridge of the defiant, who upon the appearance of a comment mentions how prophetic it is. A lot of the parts of this prophecy seem to have come true so far.

And Cisco pulls her aside and gives her a little bit of talking to you, which I think is the commander thing to do in this moment. You get to keep that shit in your quarters, Kira. Right, it's interesting. It's that kind of thing where the second they're told of the prophecy, they're kind of looking for things that fit within it the entire time. Yeah, it's like confirmation bias. This episode is a lot about Kira's deeply held beliefs and like one of the things that they talk about together is the fact that Kira is the first

officer of Deep Space Nine, but also in her private life believes in Ben Sisko as the MS area of the prophets. Yeah, kind of puts Cisco in an awkward position. As awkward as sitting on the lower bunk of a bunk bed with a partition that is like a foot tall, you look at Cisco sitting on the lower bunk and nothing looks more uncomfortable than that position. Yeah, yeah, we're blocking. It could not be a real head banger.

Yeah. I like how they block this scene because they do a lot of that take the wall out of the set and put the camera there instead. Yeah. Kind of shot reverse shotting and I haven't noticed them do that in this bunk bed place it before. I like it.

It's interesting because I've read that the reason they came up with having the defiant as a thing for this show was that they felt like they didn't have enough room to have good scenes sometimes in the bridge of a runabout and they wanted to have that, but the defiance still feels very cramped compared to the enterprise or whatever. I mentioned Cisco putting himself in a position to bang his head by sitting on that lower bunk, but like when you see a character folded over like that in a scene, you're telling that visual story

about the space that they're in. Well, they fired up this transmitter thingy. Yeah. But the wormhole opens up and shit starts to shake. Like the defiance getting bangers dropped on it, they're not receiving telemetry from deep space nine. It's going really bad. So they shut it down.

But in the process of running that, it created a gravity well around the wormhole and the comet that they observed earlier is now headed for the wormhole. And it's made of a substance that will cause the wormhole to usblow if it goes in. Yeah, pretty exciting stuff. We've started a countdown, Ben. Yeah. It's one of the best things for conflict and tension.

Finally, there's some conflict and tension in this episode. Yeah. They head back home and they have a second McLaughlin group band. You sure too. I love that they go back to DS9 to have this conversation. Yeah. Why? I guess so O'Brien and Galora can be involved. I guess. Yeah. So they come up with the plan. They're going to modify the weapons on the defiant to go shoot this comment. Even though Brian's a man, he has the best idea at the table. And what's great is that his idea will take exactly as much time as they have.

Really? Blowing these cardassians minds. But another strange thing is that Galora is the one that has tasked to help him make the modifications to the weapons. And I'm like, wasn't the first scene in this episode about how we can't trust these cardacians? And now you're showing one, the weapon systems on the most fearsome ship in the Federation fleet.

Like, why are we doing this? Yeah, like, could we take the eye roll that O'Brien had in the restaurant and kind of move it up to this scene? Because if ever an eye roll was necessary'Brien had in the restaurant and kind of move it up to this scene because if ever an eye roll was necessary, it's here. Yeah, because from her body language, it becomes apparent that Galora has maybe some professional disdain for O'Brien, but some personal lust for him.

Yeah, she's thirsty for O'Brien, isn't she? I assure you, I'm quite fertile. Here's the thing, Ben. She confuses his overt irritability as a sign that he's endure. Yeah. Why can't my overt irritability ever attract anybody to you? Yeah, he confuses love.

That would be perfect for me. Yeah, me too, buddy. It really stopped a lot of arguments before they start. Yeah. Oh, he's very irritable. He must be Tremendously attracted to me That's great. Yeah Ben you and you and I are gonna end up being 70 year old Spencer men sharing a duplex apartment. Yeah. When our far more successful and emotionally mature wives realize what poses we are and how

much better they could do. When they run out of patience. Yeah. We'll just do this. We'll just get like a basement apartment in Centrelia, Oregon, and live out the rest of our days making Star Trek podcast together. If you think Adam and Ben have been fighting for, buckle up.

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I love this. I love that she misread his cue. I love that we would never have noticed it, but she did, because she's an alien. I love Kalamini's physicality in the scene. Yeah, he's like trying to climb into the instrument panel that they've got over. Yeah, I mean, you know what, a lot like in the bunk bed scene where they take out the wall to

place the camera there, they shoot it from inside the bulkhead also on that reverse shot. Yeah, he reassures her by saying, I'm not attracted to in the slightest. She storms out of the Jeffries tube. Yeah. That's not a good look, O'Brien. Get a let him down easy. Yeah. So they head out there to shoot the asteroid before it causes an extinction level event. And, uh, unfortunately, it does not go according to plan. Fire! And unfortunately, it does not go according to plan. Fire!

They were supposed to be vaporizing this rock uniformly and instead they're just shooting holes in it. And that's been the danger from the start, right? You don't want to turn your one big threat into multiple big threats. Yeah, the weapons array is knocked out. There's no way they're going to fix it in time. And now there's not one but three chunks of asteroid

headed toward the wormhole. And so the Maghiver plan is that Cisco is going to captain Picard a shuttle. Truthfully, Manu won his commander racker. And fly into the wormhole with the chunks of asteroid and put like a subspace bubble around them to protect the wormhole from the harmful materials in the asteroid.

Looks pretty daisy. Yeah, but I like seeing the special shuttlecraft that they have on the defiant. Yeah, I liked the effect of the comet. Did you know that that wasn't digital? That was a practical comet? Yeah, it looked great. I mean, it definitely doesn't look like 1995 digital.

That's for sure. Yeah, so there's a fairly involved sequence where the defiant goes through first and it's gonna hang out on the other side of the wormhole and basically wait for the shuttle to come through and Beam everybody out in case they die or whatever and As Kira and Cisco pilot this shuttle through they're doing their best to keep the comments from leaking their nasty to keep the comments from leaking their nasty materials into the wormhole. And they're like, we're doing like a mostly pretty good job,

but some of the stuff from the asteroid is getting out of the subspace bubble and into the wormhole. It's like when you go to take out the garbage and there's like wet garbage in there. Oh yeah, and there's like one pin prick in the bottom of the bag. And it's like too much of a hassle to rebag the entire garbage.

Oh, it's just the worst. Yeah. Hey, speaking of cleaning nightmare, yeah, you know our buddy Andrew Walsh and Seattle. I do. He has a new podcast called Spotless about cleaning, because he's obsessed with cleaning up.

Is he? Yeah. He didn't strike me as a person for whom that would be an obsession. Well, apparently it is, and now he has an entire podcast about it. Spotless. Give it a try. I don't know, where you find the time. So yeah, they make it through the wormhole, just fine.

They've left a trail of comet debris, but it turns out that this trail of comet debris is the thing that they needed the entire time to make the communication system work. I never feel like it about garbage juice. Yeah. Like, who knew that garbage juice could improve your home lifelike? Maybe the prophecy was true, Ben. Whoa. Maybe it was just misinterpreted.

Yeah. It's like these 3,000 year old words that were couched in metaphor as Cisco describes them weren't about the thing that everybody thought they were about. Yeah. I mean, maybe your religious prophecy is so metaphorical and malleable that you could make the case for them for any situation. Yeah, almost like they were written that way intentionally in the first place. Hmm.

Hmm. O'Brien returns to the airlock, the scene of many terrible moments for him. Just see Galora off. And they sort of make light of the idea that, yeah, you know, that third viper was a member of the Obsidian Order. Boy, is she going to be in trouble? Yeah, because there's that amazing scene where the weapons array has blown out on the defiant. They're like, oh yeah, D'Jar is actually a spy.

And she definitely sabotaged your shit. Have you ever seen a Cardassian just like admit to wrongdoing in that way? No, and not only that, like the Obsidian Order are the bad assiast version of Cardassians, they're making it seem like she's the only one that's gonna get punished.

Right. This mission should have been a failure, and I feel like Elani and Galora are in big, big trouble once they get home. No one seems to feel that way. I wondered so much about that. Like they seem brimming with confidence that their science ministry will provide

some kind of cover for them. And what I want to know is, was that an act of amazing bravery turning Deshar in, or was it incredible naivete? I was turning this around in my head a lot until I was totally distracted by Galora's butt suit when she turns around. Yeah, she does have a... She does have a very tight pant on. Good lord!

Were they wearing these the whole time? Yeah, but they weren't framing them below the waist, so you didn't get to see that, but... These pants leave nothing to the imagination, Ben. Yeah. I mean, and O'Brien was following Galora in the... in the Jeffries too, for a while. I mean, and O'Brien was following Galora in the in the Jeffries too for a while. I mean, what are you talking about? I mean, like we talk a lot about times that Star Trek has invented a technology that then became a

normal part of every day life. And this is the yoga pant as a thing that you can just wear around being pre-saged by Star Trek. Sure is. Who knew that Lulu I'm inserted on Cardassia? Ben the button on the episode is Cisco and Yara attacking prophecies as they walk past the camera. Yeah. The thing that I realized in this moment about Yarka is that he never blinks. That's what makes him so intense in this episode. Whoa. I've rewound to a few other Yarka scenes. Unblinking.

Oh, shit, dog. Like, once you realize that's the magic trick, like, that's magical intensity. Like, you don't have to be hyper-intense to look intense, you just have to not blink. I liked that he was willing to cop to his mistake. I wonder if that could lead him to like re-enter the religious order or whatever. Yeah, I mean something that the religious are famous for is changing their minds. Good luck with that, Yarka. You really want to do this?

Here, now okay, okay, let's do it, do it. Did you like this episode, Adam? I liked getting some different spoons in the utensil drawer. Haha. Of this episode, I like to see the different cardacions and then different professional cultures that there are. I kind of like the Star Trek 6 vibes of like, what do you do with people who used to be your enemy coming aboard and having to work with them? I thought that could

be improved, but what was there was good. They should have drunk that canar and then had somebody say, canar should be illegal. And somebody else say it is. The end of the episode makes me nervous for the future of the show because I like the conflict within Cisco and his resistance to being the deity that the Bajorans view him as and that he's growing more and more open to it is a little bit of a turn off to me. How about you? I definitely agree on that point. I think overall I liked the episode. I liked the themes that explores. I thought there was a lot of fun stuff in it. And my favorite part of the episode is that scene in the Jeffries tube with Galora and O'Brien. And that moment

of relief where they're both like, oh, goodness, we both know where the misunderstanding was. It was like totally a cultural difference. But then the embarrassment kind of taking back over and making it awkward again, I thought it was great. Yeah, that was really well done. The half-life on the embarrassment was so much longer than the half-life on the intellectual was so much longer than the half-life on the like intellectual understanding of what had led to the situation. And I think that that's something

that happens all the time in real life. Yeah, I agree. Ben, something that happens all the time on Greatest Gen is the reading of Priority One Messages. You want to see what we have? I do. Priority One Message from Starfleet coming in on Secured Channel. You need a supplement on it. supplement? Yes, extra. The interest alone could be enough to buy this ship. Ben, I've got a priority one message here of a personal nature. It's from J-Mac. It's for Rico. She probably be noted that these names are lower-case. Huh. Message goes like this, happy anniversary.

Used to many more years of me looking at you, the way Kira looks at Odo. What? Wow. That doesn't sound good. I'd much rather be looked at the way Odo looks at Kira. Yeah, J-Mac. I mean, look, I don't want to punch up your P1. That's not sound good. I'd much rather be looked at the way Odo looks at Kyra. Yeah, J-Mac. I mean, look, I don't want to punch up your P1. That's not our job. Our job is to just read them.

Like a... like a newsman reads the teleprompter. Well, it's possible that J-Mac knows about something that we don't yet know about in the future of Deep Space Nine. Oh... yeah. I don't know. Do you think Mirror Kyra is in love with Odo? Oh, well Mirror Odo is a splatter on the floor of Teraaknor. So, I mean, she'd have to be in love with a pattern. She'd really have to cream her jeans every time she saw a Jackson Pollock painting.

Kira is really into mists. Yeah, she is. It's hard to overstate how erotic that a Stephen King movie The Mist was for her. And it's pornographic version erotic mist. This ain't the mist, a triple X porn parody. Hey, happy anniversary, Jim Akinrico. Adam, we have a second priority one message here. It is from Jim, and it's to Ben and Adam. Goes like this. Just listen to your Mornhammer episode, and I have to say,

you two showed some real grit. However, your alternate name for the Hurt Locker, the diffuser, is sadly already taken. Google the diffuser to find out about a good buddy of mine, who's also a red dude. Keep up the great pod. Okay, I'm googling the diffuser. The diffuser is a fictional character and superhero,

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a drunk Shimoda? Drunk Shimoda! Yeah, I mean I think I think the scene and the Jeffries 2 between O'Brien and Galora is so great that it deserves the Shimoda award. It deserves more than our discussion of it It's more meritorious than that. I think Kalamini is so great in the scene. Yeah, and And O'Brien just barely hanging on. He's in this confined space with a stranger. And yet, like, he's not just an engineer here. He's a diplomat. And that is an uncomfortable position for him

from a bunch of different angles. He plays a great, I just love the scene. I think it's the most Shimoda-esque of scenes in the episode. And I think O'Brien in it embodies that Shimoda spirit that we know and love. What about you? My Shimoda is a deep background Shimoda. When Elanian Galora get off their transport

at the beginning of the episode, like we see the door of the airlock roll open and they come out and way back by their ship, which has like, it's a Kardashian ship, you can tell because it has like a glowing Kardashian logo on it. There is a Bajoran security guy standing back there and he kind of like, he does a couple of things that make me think he's like feeling a

little bit awkward about being on camera. Like at one point, he kind of like disappears behind a wall. He's like walking around a little awkwardly. Like you know, when you like see a news broadcast where the anchor sits at a desk that's in front of a newsroom and there's somebody in the background that doesn't realize that they were going to be on camera, photocopying something or whatever. And oh, man, there is a walk by here where he walks from left to right that is fucking absurd.

Yeah, I was incredibly distracted by this guy, this entire scene. I, I, like, rerue out on the scene three times to watch him because he does so many weird things. And it also doesn't make any sense that he would be back there because it's a Cardassian ship. Like, if it was a Bajorin transport and we'd establish that in some way,

I guess it would make sense that there would be a Bajorin security guy on it, but it's got a Cardassian logo. So like, what he could possibly be doing back there is a total head scratcher and he keeps popping out throughout the scene. It's so weird and awkward. There's something that I've always noticed in award shows is how self-conscious actors are about walking. Like when they walk to the mic or they walk up to receive an award or something. That's so surprising to me. How could an actor of all people not know how to walk?

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And he keeps getting retweeted by like the Star Trek writers room and the pocket. Like the pocket knows of his existence. The pocket loves his work. I would hire him up. Yeah. If I were in the family of big rod. Yeah, like what's up the pocket? Get off your duff and hire JJ Lendle.

Just throw buckets of money on that guy. Yeah That's how people get paid when you're in the pocket, right? Yeah bucket of money. Uh-huh I give you like an auto bucket, but it's full of money instead of goo Or dry oatmeal In my case well Adam, I think that's just about it Only other thing to say is go check out all the other shows on MaximumFund.org and if you want to say hi to us, we're on Twitter. Adam's at KevverTime. I'm at BenjaminRHR and you can use the greatest Jen Hashtag. There's also a bunch of great groups on Facebook and a reddit sub as well.

on Facebook and a Reddit sub as well. And all of those are great places to hang out with the friends of DeSoto and take part in all the subgroups that speak to your particular interests. It's not too late to get married before the holidays. Yeah, so there's no better place to find a partner than one of our myriad social media groups. Indeed. We'll leave it there, Ben.

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