The Greatest Generation - Rocking Kobali Bush (VOY S6E18)

Episode Date: September 18, 2023

When Ensign Kim’s old flame shows up on Voyager, her melting face doesn’t stop him from making a move. But when moody-as-hell middle school borgs overwhelm Seven of Nine, Chakotay suggests adapting her parenting style to a more spontaneous type of fun. Why is Jhet'leya’s loaf still warm? Who does Star Trek want you to fall in love with? When do borgs start growing tubules? It’s the episode that adds a dead chick to Harry Kim’s body count!h!Support the production of The Greatest Generation.Friends of DeSoto for Democracy.Friends of DeSoto for Justice. Friends of DeSoto for Labor.Follow The Game of Buttholes: The Will of the Caretaker!Music by Adam Ragusea & Dark MateriaFollow The Greatest Generation on Twitter, and discuss the show using the hashtag #GreatestGen!The Greatest Generation is on YouTube.Facebook group | Subreddit | Discord | WikiSign up for our mailing list!Get a thing at podshop.biz!

William Shatner wrote, directed, and starred in the fifth Star Trek film in the winter of his 57th year. Over the next three decades, the film has been pilloried as one of the worst entries in the series. But when Shatner had fallen on hard times becoming primarily known as a television pitchman for a travel booking website, The recent share your embarrassment tour earned him a sudden, unexpected second run at celebrity. Well, everyone knows that Star Trek V is a catastrophic failure of a film that nearly ended the franchise.

What this tour presupposes is, maybe it isn't. Let me ask you something. Why would a reviewer make a point of saying someone is not a genius? Do you think I'm especially not a genius? You didn't even have to think about that. Did you? The share your embarrassment tour.

Coming to just a few more cities this year, ticket still on sale at greatestjentour.com. Here's to the finest crew in Starfleet. Engage! Watch your back, son. Hello. I'm Captain Captain. I'm Brinjane, one of the U.S.S.

Boardhead. Captain Captain. I'm Brinjane, one of the U.S. Boardhead. Do it Captain. Welcome to the greatest generation. It's a Star Trek podcast by a couple of guys who are a little bit embarrassed about having a Star Trek podcast. I'm Ben Harrison. I'm Adam Pryanaka. How you doing, Adam? Feeling great. I tricked my birdie is what I did. Wow. This might be one of those

when we look back in the sand, there was only one set of prints. Yeah. Because one set of prints. Yeah. It was because you were the one stealing all the sand. Yeah, man, I can hear the struggle in your voice. I got your back. It's, you know, sometimes it's a struggle. Most of the time it's not. This is easy compared to most jobs.

Yes, and it's a real job, especially on days like today, when one or both of us is feeling under the weather and jet lagged and all the rest. Honestly, many, many a time, this is the thing that I needed all along, you know, it's the recharge. Yeah, let's charge yet, man. Let's charge meat.

Up, I'm really glad we didn't roll like a fucking power hour on this one now. What's up with our game? Is our game still broken? Oh, several FODs wrote to us saying, hey, your little game is broken and it appears to remain that way. I don't know what we do at the end of this episode, Ben. Maybe this is a no-roll. Wow, that would be rare and weird. And then we just do a regular old episode next time if the game's working. We'll roll then. I don't know what to make of it. I have, you know me. I'm worried that I hurt somebody's feelings at all times and in all places. And this is end of our... This is a personal problem, it's what you're saying.

Well, at the end of our show in London, we got to meet Craig Anderson in person for the first time. Oh, yeah. And Craig's great. I said, hey, Craig, we are going to go get a bite to eat with our friend Jeremy after this. We would love for you to join us, because, you know, what better way to pay Craig back for all of the kind work that he's done building this board game from the ground up. Absolutely. And like always refusing to get paid for it, then take them out for a nice meal.

And I said, here's my phone number. Text me and I will text you the details, because we didn't really know like when we were getting out of there. And, you know, where we were going or how we were getting We we had no information to provide at that point. Yeah, so I said just send me a text and then I did check my phone at some point To see if he had texted before we had headed out to dinner and I didn't see a text but Looking back on when he texted me it came in much earlier than when I checked. So I think I was just like in the delirium of post-show and I must have missed it for

some reason. Oh, no. And so I didn't text him back until like I was back at the hotel that night and I was like, hey, man, I'm super sorry. I did not see this. And you were totally invited, but I failed to notice your text. And you sent it. Was there a reply to that? Yeah, you said, all good, mate.

Okay. Just finishing up a rad night with FODs, I was chuffed, you even thought to invite me. So it sounds like Craig went out and partied with some other FODs, which is always a good, a good backup plan, you know. Yeah, I don't, I don't know what chef means in London English, but it probably means I'm going to fucking kill you. I'm going to unplug your fucking website dickhead. You know, it's funny. When we went out to dinner, our buddy took a couple of pictures of us, and like anything else that happened that day, I don't remember any of it. My mind was completely scrambled.

I look like the expression on my face. I've never seen that expression before. I look totally not even there. Was I a good dinner companion? You were, you kind of narrated when you were coming in and out of, of your presence in the room though. Like there were, there were times where you're like, I'm here. I'm, I'm enjoying myself and there are other times where you were like, I don't

know what's going on or where I am. I was fading in and out of fugues state. It's so weird. I had so much coffee that day because I was like, well, the one thing I know I'm not gonna be as tired. But, and I wasn't tired. I wasn't body tired, but my entire, I definitely was. We ordered two bottles of wine at this dinner.

We were having that kind of night. It was a wine show, another wine show. Oh, that's what we do. I don't know, almost all wine show tour because we're playing a bunch of wineries on this tour. That's right. It was fun to go to like a proper chop house in London. I've never done that before.

Yeah. And our waitress happened to be French and I tried to order two different bottles of wine and both bottles that I had picked out off the menu were French and origin just by coincidence. And both times she said, Zedibotl is a war crime. Ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha I'm not going to say that. I'm not going to say that. I'm not going to say that. I'm not going to say that.

I'm not going to say that. I'm not going to say that. I'm not going to say that. I'm not going to say that. I'm not going to say that. I'm not going to say that. I'm not going to say that. I'm not going to say that.

I'm not going to say that. I'm not going to say that. but in that classic way where I just think that like when you say, hey, this is the bottle of wine I want and they say you're wrong about that, sir, it really draws a bright underline under how little you know about wine, which, you know, I'm willing, I'm prepared to admit I don't know a lot about wine. I think you know more than I do. And I think the technology that I deploy in situations like that is like, I never pick one. I'm like, I like wine that tastes like dirt, or I like, I'm in the mood for something dry,

or the sort of food that we're planning and ordering is this, what's a good bottle for that? I didn't want to get married to a bottle of wine on the list. I want to work collaboratively with the person. And a lot of times that works. I went home to the hotel room and was telling my wife about what had happened with the waitress and the bottles of wine.

You want to know what? Question she asked me. She asked me if the waitress was hot. What is that have to do with anything? You had an unusual European trip, I will say. You want to know something, me and my good friend Phil from Seattle tell each other almost all the time, like as a refrain, like out of nowhere,

I'll get a text on my phone from him. And this is what the text will say. You did nothing wrong. Maybe I'll start sending these text messages to you when I get them from Phil because I need to know this on regular occasions. Phil has my number. Can he put me on his list of recipients?

You did nothing wrong, Ben. You didn't do anything wrong. I'm intellectually I know that, but in my deep emotional core, I feel strongly that I did. We got a bottle of Bulgarian red wine at the end. It was sturdy. I loved it. Yeah, love a iron curtain wine. it. Yeah. Love a love a iron curtain line. Yeah. Yeah. It was big fun. I don't remember ever ever having a bottle in the States. So that was neat. It was great. Want to thank Jeremy for being our dinner companion. That was fun. Yeah. I was really hoping to get to see Jeremy's narrowboat because he lives on a canal boat when he's in the UK. And he has a great TikTok page about like,

what it is like to live on a canal boat. It's like this total amazing lifestyle where he has to like, oh yeah, like I had to call the guy that works the lock at this, you know, part of the country that I'm heading towards so that I could arrange for passage into a different altitude of water.

It seems neat to me, but being a person from Seattle with knowledge of folks who've lived on houseboats and in that climate, no fucking thanks. Like, the thing that I've heard from folks who live in London is that it's terrible for weather and it's cold all the time, outside of the time that we were there for the London podcast festival, like my hands and feet are cold as it is. If I lived in a home that was on the water,

I would never be warm. I couldn't live that way. You would never be warm and also you have the kind of festitiveness that I feel like would. I'd be out there with a pool skimmer, like in the water, cleaning up the area around my house. You would be absolutely overwhelmed by all of the different maintenance tasks that you

would assign yourself living on a boat. You really know me. Yeah, that's absolutely how it would go. I'd be bloating and floating after like two weeks. Which is why I would not station you in the engineering department if I was the captain of a starship. I'd put you on something a little bit more chill, a little less important for keeping everybody alive. Not because I don't think you would do a good job, because I don't think it would be emotionally healthy for you. I am so glad that you look out for me that way. In the way that I hope you feel like I look out for you, Ben. I'd never assign you to a death mission. Never ever. Well, speaking of

people working in engineering and people going on death missions, let's get into the episode today Adam. It's season six of Star Trek Voyager, episode 18. And you know that Kevin X Bridge loves this one because of how raunchy it gets toward the end. I actually shush. Reaper, of course. Unless you've got something a little bigger in your torpedo dooms, I'm not turning around. We start in media dog fight.

It's a ship's ship on shuttle violence. This lady is flying a shuttle away from a huge ship and she's speaking a different language. She manages to escape and then starts broadcasting to Voyager in English. She seems like a really good pilot. Like you don't know anything about this character in the beginning, but she's never panicky She's always in control. Yeah, she definitely knows how to disable this much larger ship. Yeah, that's on her tail Like kind of a good introduction to her. It almost looks like she's targeting Voyager initially when it shows Voyager on the computer I thought that as well. Yeah, no, she's just sending in a broadcast and that is our cold open, like a tight,

one minute cold open, I feel like. After the theme, we see Mizzati, one of the lillus borg's children in the ass lab. And she does that thing that like most kids her age are instructed to do this when the parents are away. Like you are to answer the phone while we're gone. And you say seven residents, at least this is what it was like in my house, right?

When my parents would leave on the rare occasions when they would ever leave. And you would say my parents can't come to the phone right now, not my parents aren't home. Exactly, because that's how you get thrown into a van and stolen, as was the fear of the time. I guess this isn't a thing anymore. Like kids don't pick up their parents' cell phones and answer them.

Hey, mom, what does you up mean? There's some little pictures in this text. What do these have? This one looks like grimace. I mean, is the thing with that that no one has a house phone anymore? Yeah, I don't think anybody does. So this is just like Miss Adi is doing something that was true in the 90s, but is no longer true.

And it seems like it should be more difficult to do this. Yeah. What is difficult to do is transfer this call to Captain Janeway, and that's who the voice on the other end of the line is urgently asking for. Zadi's kind of trying to like have her own conversation. Is this urgent though? I mean, I understand the urgency from the other end, but like the adult on the conversation is doing that thing

where like Mazzotti's, and about to explode bomb, that you want to like treat very gently. Are there any grownups I could speak to? Even though you're in an emergency situation yourself. Yeah, like Mazzotti is doing the urgent phone call version of when like a six-year-old is walking in an airport and you're like, this kid is not aware of their surroundings and their people racing to get on their planes. This kid is going to get trampled.

Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. So, the call hangs up or disconnects before anything can happen. I guess is it that Mizzati is reaching for a button and accidentally hangs it up? Yeah, she needs a step stool or a grabber device to hit those buttons up tall. So in walk, all of the other Lollisborgs and Seven and TwoVoc,

and there's like a whole scene about like two Voc kind of dragging sevens parenting skills. You left the children unsupervised. I was gone for less than 10 minutes. Masati is like distracted while they're all having this conversation because she has turned back around to the computer to see if she can reestablish contact with this lady. I don't know like a healthy way to react to this, but when the kid has fucked up, why is Mizzati turned back around and and hitting the buttons again? Like get her away from the buttons.

Yeah. Well, she hasn't been told which punishment protocol to be doing yet. Two bucks really interesting here in the like he he does not scold Mizati. He scolds seven for permitting Mizati to do this. That's good parenting, right? Like, like, in front of Mizati. Disagree about a decision that needs to be made, like, like, hash that out in front of the kids to show that there's dissension among the ranks. Hey, guess what?

The call is reestablished by Tuvac, and they hear the follow-up request to talk to Janeway. And on the bridge, we see this FaceTime. It's a person that introduces herself as Ensign Lindsey Ballard. Yeah. She is really excited to see Janeway and specifically excited to see Harry Kim and Harry Kim fain's ignorance at this. But I swear I don't know where you guys. But yeah, she does not look like the Lindsey Ballard that they remember. And this is one of those like retcons that drives me

crazy. Like could they not just bring back like somebody that had been an extra in previous episodes or something? Somebody that was like plausibly familiar. It would have been cool. But like, if you're casting extras, are you really trying to cast the extras that have it, you know? Yeah, they might be distracting to the camera. Yeah. So, I like Jane W' take here because she initially takes great umbridge with the idea, just the very idea that this is Lindsey Ballard.

I don't know who you are, but I'm not amused. She wants to check her ID. She's fine with beaming at her six bay behind a force field until they can do this. And the force field is there to keep Harry Kim from her. I guess. And her from Harry Kim. Something about it reminds me of being in the womb.

Get up, Harry. Who are you? Harry Kim. Parents must be very proud. Who are you? They come as come as a pair. Who are you? Harry Kim.

Who else is she supposed to get chummy with? Harry Kim and your mom. Very proud. Who are you? Harry Kim you? Who else is she supposed to get chummy with? Harry Kim and you're all very proud. Who are you? Harry Kim. I lasted 22 minutes. And you're all very proud. Harry Kim.

Who are you? Harry Kim. Yeah, I mean, she claims to know exactly what his clarinet looks like. And she's describing the clarinet in really fine detail. Like it comes apart in pieces and there are a bunch of valves and stuff. Wow, she must have seen this specific. The doctor scans her while she describes her last mission with Harry Kim. And this is a harrowing story of shit going wrong involving the hero gen and things go

dead wrong for her. They give her the commensurate torpedo to funeral. They shoot her out into space. And what happened to her is that her torpedo was found by the caballi who procreate by reanimating the dead of other races. What an interesting idea. I really like this a lot.

I do too. It's sort of like the existential version of, you're gonna eat the rest of that? Hahaha. Like the caballi see that you haven't finished eating. How did this species arise though? Hahaha. Yeah, there was a first cabali.

Do you think the first cabali was just someone who was buried not dead? Yeah, they were like, hey, this gives me a great idea. It's really quite simple. All life is a physical and chemical process, correct? They must have very strong feelings about the dead in general. Were you expecting at this moment for Jeffrey Combs to make an appearance?

Concert brain death. No doubt. I was shocked that he wasn't in the episode at this point. I feel like Jet Laias Lof is still warm from Jeffrey Combs' face. So they have a conversation about all of this and the EMH announces like, yeah, there's like the DNA that you would need to establish that this is probably, in fact, Lindsey Ballard in there. I mean, it's been heavily altered and she's been turned into this other thing. But I think once this person was the person she's claiming to be, it's been heavily altered and she's been turned into this other thing, but I think once this person was the person

she's claiming to be. There's something really interesting about the performance that Kim Rhodes gives because in describing what the caballi did, the word desecration is not thrown around. Like, there is inherent cruelty in the idea of being made to forget your past life in the way that the Kabali made her.

But there's also some respect for the idea that she was dead and now she is alive, which is a way of being that she wouldn't have been without the caballi. And so like because she did not forget her past life, she jaked a shuttle and she attempted to find Voyager, which she did. Believe me, I was suspicious myself at first, but I am Lindsey Ballard. I love Janeway here too. She's like, if only you had been a hologram, maybe I would care more about your feelings or your agency here. Maybe I would even make out with you. Yeah, but she does decide that this is like an innocent until proven guilty moment. Oh, this time. That's good. And so she allows the force field to be dropped and she lets Harry

Kim and Lindsay we assume have a little moment together. There's coffee in that convincing story. It really helps that she's so nice, right? You don't get trauma from this character. Right. In a way that you might expect, if you Benjamin R. Harrison were to die and then be reanimated.

Or if any comparison was made to like what the Borgs do, like she's essentially been assimilated and lots of people have come back from that and we know how fucked up that feels. That's what makes it so unreal that seven is relegated to the B story without any sort of opinion about this. Yeah, she doesn't even cross paths with this person. You need to cross pollinate the trauma here. Don't you? I think so. You need to share your pain.

And gain strength from the share. But that's part of it. Like, Jett Laya slash Lindsey Ballard is like nice and kind and happy to see Harry Kim and revenge is not at the top of her mind for what happened to her. She seems great. Yeah. She doesn't want to take it out on the Bains or the Kobali.

They get forgiveness, you know. It makes you like her from jump, I think. I think that is a very effective. Yeah. Of course, it's long term. What? This one to me, very careful, because I'm going to say this once. What is also effective, I think,

is the chemistry between her and Harry Kim. Like, there is affection that is not romantic, but it is deep. And I thought that the performances by both actors in this dynamic did a really good job of establishing that there's like potential for more than a friendship here, but what this is at this point is a really old friendship and two people meeting up after one of them

thought the other was dead for a long time. I'm glad it's this and not like a married relationship where someone has moved on or whatever after death. Like you could really complexify this story in a way that I think could muddy it up. Totally. We have to have a McLaughlin group about this situation. Is your one.

This kind of feels like maybe the first time Lindsey Ballard ever got to meet with the senior staff. It's, meet your, now alive, previously dead employee day. She's a fine officer. She's shown a lot of courage and determination over the past few years. This was so timely this scene because I immediately thought, well, I mean, does she have to go back to work right now? Does that kind of suck if you do?

Did you give her like a couple of weeks to like, gree acclimate, like, or anything? Yeah. Your old shift is waiting for you in engineering. I mean, this is Voyager and they're like, this person that claims to be somebody that we know, we're going to extend all the trust of them being the person we know and then put her next to the warp core, where we put the things. Yeah, that's what we do. So yeah, like the only precautions that are really worried about are like,

what if the Kobali come back looking for her. So, you know, Tuvak is going to do some analysis of her shuttle and see if he can kind of get his head around how they would defend themselves from the Kobali. But it's really the meeting after the meeting that's important here, right? Because once everyone fucks off, it's just Lindsey Ballard and Janeway. And Lindsey thanks Janeway for being so nice and for inviting her to a meeting she's never been to before in her entire career.

Where was that on the list? Yeah, I know. I know. She has the running list for the rest of the episode that she tells Harry came about after the meeting where it's like all of the things I wanted to do when I got back to the world. It's like, you know, guys that went to Vietnam going like, man, when I get back stateside, I'm getting a hamburger. They just don't make them like that here, you know? What's in your fantasy fridge, right? Yeah.

What's in your fantasy fridge, right? Yeah. Didn't you get heavy Robin Leffler vibes from Lindsay Ballard? The reason I ask that is that Robin Leffler also had her rules. Law 17 when all else fells do it yourself. When you have rules and lists and you're an interesting lady in Star Trek, that's a type of person. Yeah. And by type of person, I mean, the type of person

that start track wants you to fall in love with. Yeah, why? I couldn't they just get Ashley Judd for this part. I know. I know. Who else's Lindsey Ballard supposed to get show me with? That's what I'm here for. So we cut over to, I guess, it's Nielix's galley

where this takes place in, right? Yeah. Where Naomi Wildman has some kind of board game set up So we cut over to, I guess, it's Neelix's galley where this takes place in, right? Yeah. Where Naomi Wildman has some kind of board game setup and this overly organized fun arranged by an overly organized board who doesn't understand fun leads inevitably to disaster. Fun will now commence. And you know, it's not long before Naomi is like accusing Borgs of cheating and, you know, each app is having a very

characteristic each app like public meltdown that is totally uncalled for. What did you make of this punishment? Like, if you're a Borgs or an X Borgs, just standing there staring has gotta be one of the most comfortable things you could do. Like, it's not like being a child told to stand in the corner,

like wearing the DUNTS cap or whatever. Like, you know Borgs fucking love this? They love staring. That's the briar patch for them, baby. Ha, ha, ha, ha, ha. Ha, ha, ha, ha, ha. Oh, I love staring into the middle distance. Punishment protocol, nine eight, fuck yeah. It sure does feel like these XB kids are moody as hell in that middle school kind of way

that are going to be a problem. Yeah. And not just because seven to helicopter parent, like they are awkward forces interacting here. But that seemed like Mizati and Naomi are like similar age, like, or like similar levels of maturity and and similarly serious characters, like it sort of feels like they might get along great. Are assimilation tubules a thing

that happened at Borg's puberty? Mm. Mm. Like once those babies come in. Oh yeah. You're ready to do assimilate. Our bodies are changing. We're seeing tubules show up in places

that tubules never were before. You always want to bathroom with a partition if you're a male board. You don't want to see out of the corner of your eye, someone hang an extra tubule. Oh, God. Really dispiriting. Yeah. I hate going to a board's ballpark and they have that trough-based urinal. Yeah. Just looking at a row of tubules. Yeah, the reason I ask is like it doesn't seem like the kids are Dangerous in that way that I think would add a little extra fun to every scene involving the littlest borgs, you know?

Yeah, so This disaster having been established we cut over to some quarters where Harry Kim has helped and some ballerad get all of her old personal effects out of storage, which they kept on board the ship. And it's like, yeah, like they asked me to throw all this stuff in the matter, recycler. But I didn't do it. Didn't you want them to have thrown away her shit? Like I think that would have hit really hard in a really good way.

I think part of my issue with this episode is that like death and resurrection are not as traumatic as maybe they should be to this character. And the idea that like after three years, it would seem as though a greater amount of moving on would have happened here. Like I'm not saying like they'd forget about her because they wouldn't, but like the practical matter

of getting rid of someone's stuff seems like it could have been should have happened here. Even if it hadn't happened, it would have been interesting for them to talk about why because like moving on is a uniquely big deal for this crew because they have been out of touch with their families for such a long time. And so like now that they have been able to like learn

a little bit about what's going on back in the Alpha Quadrant and people in the Alpha Quadrant are aware that they're out there, there's all these new baggage surrounding like, you know, like probably lots of them had spouses and significant others that moved on and you know families that held memorials for them and stuff. And this is exactly the right spot for you to have said that because like when you go through your old things, how much were you expecting

a conversation about those family members or partners or whatever? Like, I wanted to know all of that stuff right here, but instead you get some memories of two folks who knew each other at the academy. And there's like some joking around about being dead that Lindsey is very interested in doing to the point where like, it seems to really hurt Harry Kim to endure the sort of jokes that she tells about herself. Yeah. And even when it's clear that he's hurting, she continues to smash those nuts. You know, he's wearing a terrible public speaker.

It is a weird tone to take with somebody who's telling you about, like, what the eulogy at your funeral was. Yeah. But I guess in some ways, she's had a long time to process the idea that everybody thinks she's dead. Yeah, what's interesting is she hasn't been dead for three years.

Everyone else thinks she has been. And so she's had the benefit of those three years to process everything that's happened. Yeah, we learned that her whole ethos is based on a Klingon saying of own the day, and that was the theme of Harry's eulogy, and they're talking about this when the EMH calls them down to 6 Bay and announces that he has not a cure for what ails her, but a cure for what makes her look the way she looks. The doctor, notably an opera fanatic,

decides to change the music that plays in 6 Bay, needle drop on 6 Pents, none the richer here. When Lindsay Ballard takes off her glasses and shakes out her bald head, Valored takes out for glasses and shakes out her bald head. She just looks too good to be a librarian, right? Yeah. I thought that the production challenge of combining the makeup department having three different phases of Kobali loaf for her, and also the special effect of morphing between those was really well done here.

Like the way it looks and the fact that her face is able to move is like, it's so good. And like this morp effect is really beautifully done, I thought. There's some blurring between faces here too. Yeah. And this first treatment doesn't take her all the way back to human. It gets her kind of closer to a midpoint between cobalan human. Like her ears are less pronounced and like her skin tone

comes a little bit more back and people are still going to ask her why the long face. But it's just not as long as it used to be. Yeah. I was wondering if the doctor was gonna pop that giant boil on the back of her head. It just rockets into the ceiling. Like it knocks down the drop ceiling behind them. Ha, ha, ha, ha, punch as a hold. Hold. Ha, ha, ha, ha, ha, ha, ha, ha, ha, ha, ha, ha, ha, ha, ha, ha, ha, ha, ha, ha, ha, ha, ha, ha, ha, ha, ha, ha, ha, ha, ha, ha, ha, ha, ha, ha, ha, ha, ha, ha, ha, ha, ha, ha, ha, ha, ha, ha, ha, ha, ha, ha, ha, ha, ha, ha, ha, ha, ha, ha, ha, ha, ha, ha, ha, ha, ha, ha, ha, ha, ha, ha, ha, ha, ha, ha, ha, ha, ha, ha, ha, ha, ha, ha, ha, ha, ha, ha, ha, ha, ha, ha, ha, ha, ha, ha, ha, ha, ha, ha, ha, ha, ha, ha, ha, ha, ha, ha, ha, ha, ha, ha, ha, ha, ha, ha, ha, ha, ha, ha, ha, ha, ha, ha, ha, ha, ha, ha, ha, ha, ha, ha, ha, ha, ha, ha, ha, ha, ha, ha, ha, ha, ha, ha, ha, ha, ha, ha, ha, ha, ha, ha, ha, ha, ha, ha, ha, ha, ha, ha, ha, ha, ha, ha, ha, ha, ha, ha, ha, ha, ha, ha, ha, ha, ha, ha, ha, ha, ha, ha, ha, ha, ha It's only one hypospray. Amazing. Glad we were filming that. This is gonna go crazy viral on our slash popping. Right, got tickets that, Lucknam gets that old bit of large munch here.

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And you think it's just because Neelix is a shit cook. It's not, Kim thinks it tastes fine. Biologically, she's different now. Maybe the doctor should have stuck a hyposprae on her tongue. So the other thing she had on her list was go show up early for work. That was number 16. Yeah. And being good at her work was also, I guess, on the list.

And she seems to have turned over a new leaf there as well, because BLT has like a, yeah, there's some like, you know, minor problem with alignment of blah, blah, blah, blah, blah. And she just kind of breaks into cabali terminology as she starts talking about this. And then eventually just talking pure caballi as she fixes the problem. And everybody in engineering is like, what the fuck just happened? Everyone in engineering who should be used to by now working with people of different

cultures and languages. Stares at her like she is a monster. Yeah. The universal translator does not work when somebody spontaneously switches from one language to another. But having successfully solved for that problem, she's immediately assigned another project which she agrees to do. We cut down to the ass lab where turned out Chicoete is now just a message boy on the ship. He's just bringing an iPad from two Vox to seven. How far has this character fallen? It's incredible.

I know, it sucks. Yeah. He's trying to like be a shoulder for seven to lean on here because seven does not want to be gardening into the littlest boards anymore. Seven's like, why wouldn't they like me? to lean on here because Sevin does not want to be gardening into the littlest boards anymore. Sevin's like, why wouldn't they like me? What?

With this incredible schedule I've made for them. And she gestures to the giant screen in the ass lab that shows it. And you see a bit of this schedule. And it doesn't look fun at all. It looks like a giant drag. It looks like my schedule at high school. Yeah, it's no good. And Chico Te recognizes this.

He tells her as much. And he's not gonna grant her a request to get off this duty. She's gonna have to both please this booty and keep caring for the kiddo. Sorry, Seven. Permission denied. I mean, the point he's making is like, you should schedule fun, but also sometimes spontaneous fun

is nice. Yeah. And, you know, fun, but also sometimes spontaneous fun is nice. And, you know, this is advice that dance average gives to couples that have been together for a long time. It's like, initially, the two of you are the adventure to each other, but now, to continue, you have to, like, go on adventures together. Mm-hmm. Mm-hmm. So that's the scheduled fun, but, you know, like that can lead to spontaneous

fun, I guess. Right. But don't make the fun too spontaneous. Sometimes you need to take a thorough shower. It's your duty to clean that booty. Yeah, you got to use the backup Lufa for some spontaneous fun. Yeah, speaking of spontaneous fun, Harry Kim has an idea that he's going to take Lindsay on an ice skating date in the holiday and he's gotten all dressed up for it and we are reminded that Tom Paris is also on this show.

You two sure have been spending a lot of time together lightly, don't start. I love this scene because it's like Tom Paris enters the frame, smashes Harry Kim and the nuts for his long list of terrible love interests he's had on the show, and then just exits. Like ladies and gentlemen, Tom Paris. It's not like Paris has done much better.

I mean, no one knows if he's in a relationship with BLT at this point. Yeah. We've seen very little evidence of it lately. When you hear the love interests enumerated, right? It is a trail of bodies that is not enviable. Yeah. Kind of a bad body count. Now he's going to try and hook up with a dead chick and he has sound to six Bay where the big reveal is that Lindsay has decided to be a redhead now that she's been resurrected. She's a stone cold fox. Good hair color choice. Haircut choice that could not be more

2000. God, so true. The absolute most year 2000 haircut that has ever year 2000. You just don't see this haircut in the world anymore, do you? No, it's gone. Yeah. When those towers came down, people stopped doing that hair. Was it all a dream?

This haircut on the cover of 2000's haircut magazine. Crazy. She is not going to be able to participate in the spontaneous fun with Harry because she's been invited to dinner with the captain and Harry is immediately seized with jealousy. In six years, I have never been invited to the captain's quarters for dinner. We cut over to Chicoetay, who for some reason is in the room, and down to his hand, he snaps a pencil. I've never gotten that either. Dinner with the captain, wow. I've always wanted to try her famous pot roast. God damn it! How hot, what do you like it how fucking bad is the captain at cooking when the replicated roast is burned hmm what are you doing it's a replicator you gotta go low and slow with the replication I think yeah that's

the lesson here also that's like a ten pound cut of meat that's because I like leftovers. Why does Janeway like vegetable broth but a giant beefy pot roast? And it apparently is the only thing she made. Like she has no sides available. Like it's that or PB&J's. The best part of a pot roast are those soft root vegetables. Where's the carrot and the potato? Potatoes?

This doesn't make any sense. A pot roast is typically adorned with root vegetables that cook low and slow along with the meat. Cooking low and slow causes the collagen to break down the meat and the complex structures and the vegetables to break down along with it, leading to soft melt in your mouth delicious food that is comforting on a cold winter's night. No one's going to eat just a meat.

It's not satisfying. You're going to drive your customers away and you're not taking care of the vegetarians in the neighborhood. Lindsay has shown up in a dress uniform, which makes it just a dinner full of faux pas, right? And didn't even have like a, you know, she wasn't even tricked into it like, whoro is in that episode of Strange New Worlds.

There's one thing in these quarters that I became obsessed with. I want to know if this was the same for you Ben. The clear vertical bread box. Yeah. Is there a reason we're not going vertical with the bread in society these days? Like, is it that the bottom pieces

would get crushed under the weight of the top pieces? It seems like a very efficient way to store bread. Bread's not that heavy. I know. Star Trek dot com. Why are you not selling this as a merch item? You know, I looked up this prop then, the clear, loose site vertical bread box.

Yeah. And it was briefly up for auction. No kidding. And I went to look at who might have bought it because, you know, sometimes auction winners will resell these items. Yeah. This one didn't.

Get it wrong. Damn. He's just sitting on this hoard of amazing screen used props. You know what's great about winning the vertical bread box auction is you get to keep the talaxian fly inside of it. That's two displays for the price of one there. Yeah, it is it is both a screen use prop and a display case for a screen use prop. Yeah, that's great value there.

Respect to Garrett Long. So Lindsey Ballard is pretty twisted up over her death and is also just kind of out of sorts like she, she busts Janeway's chops over the pot roast being like a way to repel a Kobali attack. I just thought like maybe the Kobali could help her re-animate that pot roast, bring it back to life, you know? Do you think if your Kobali,

you could over animate something like if the pot roast is burned, you maybe go to fire and turn it back into a cow. You turn it into Maggie O'Calloran. Did you like the whole band? I don't know. I don't know. Well, before I knew boys, the spirits have told Tony to occur.

I'm not quite myself today. What kind of a girl do you think I am? Bitch, I'm a caggle. I was walking around town with nothing but a bell around my neck. Everyone was staring at me. Here she comes. I love this moment like she speaks before thinking. Yeah.

In a way I know you and I have done Miriam times. Yeah, doing bits around the boss can have, you know, deleterious effects on your career. I can't believe I just said that. Why? It was funny. You can't do bits on pot roast. That's what she does. Yeah.

She's curious why she was sent on the away mission that claimed her life, because she wasn't necessarily the greatest person for the job. And Jane was like, I don't know. I, that's such a minor decision in the scheme of things for me. I couldn't possibly tell you. Do you think I actually consider people who are the bridge crew?

You're just a body. That's what she says. When Lindsay kind of quotes Kabali scripture at her, she started to make a little bit of sense. And I like that she was willing to ask the captain directly about these concerns, but it seems as though she's not really in control of what she's thinking or what she's saying in such a way that she needs to extricate herself

from the situation. Like, she kind of runs away from dinner. She runs away from dinner right into a dream sequence. This felt like a very Baywatch type of sequence, right? Yeah. Very abrupt. Hard to think she's going to get another dinner invitation after this. Yeah. She kind of walks into not really her funeral, but we're gathering to remind you why you shouldn't be here. Yeah, it seems mean.

Where is the most to come back? You don't go on here anymore. Get the fuck out! I mean, they've got the flower arrangement on their torpedo tube in there, but it's also like at her this way. But it was all a dream. She's on the cover of Not Dead Magazine.

And back in Harry Kim's quarters, Lindsey just goes and invites herself in and sits on his bed and vents. And I'm watching Harry Kim here and I'm like, do not try to fix this, Harry. Well, just listen, don't try to fix this, Harry. Yeah. Just listen, don't try to fix. Do not fix it.

I mean, it's tough when someone's venting and like clearly an emotional distress and your boner pokes into the smaller back through your bedsheet. Also, you've been sleeping, so you know, you got that morning breath going. Mmm. Which is why I very much like to kiss you now. sleeping so you know you got that morning breath going. Which is why I very much like to kiss you now. You can't make a move here, Harry.

But make a move he does. Yeah. And it works. You can tell she really likes him for putting up with this breath. They cut to a shot of Voyager going into a wormhole. Got to a shot of a clarinet being pushed fully formed into a pot roast. I know you don't want to. Coffee, black, make it yourself. I'm trying to help you see this opportunity to grow.

Make it yourself. The next day in the mess hall, the lilyless borgs work on sculptures and Mizzati is the only one who is made an erotic cake. Hi, welcome to sexy cakes, the erotic bakery. And for this seven does not punish her. Yeah, well, it's an extremely flattering erotic cake of seven. So seven looks at the sculpture and looks at Mizzati and she's like, Mizzati, is this what fun looks like?

I don't see the resemblance. You know, a lot of people talk about Seven's bust. This is the first time we see it. I did not live far away from an erotic bakery in my college years. And what a fun place that was. Wow, did you ever buy anything? Yes, and I had cake spot for me also. and what a fun place that was. Wow, did you ever buy anything? Yes, and I had cakes bought for me also.

They're so absurd. Yeah. Just the idea of it. The idea that that could be the entire organizing principle of a bakery is really great. The thing about erotic cakes is how not erotic they are in any way. A woman going to the bathroom? You don't find any erotic? No, not really.

They're not getting anybody quite as horny as Harry Kim's morning breath. No. In Harry's quarters, Lindsey is now sitting on the floor. Is this all happening in the same night? Like are the borgs up late doing clay and then, like, post-coidess, Lindsay is up feeling feels? I mean, when you have your bat completely blown out, does it just feel better to sit on the floor after?

Is that what's up? Harry Kim just calmed down in his refractory period. I lasted 22 minutes. Lindsay's new, new dad gets on FaceTime with Janeway and is like, hey, I really want to speak with my daughter. What's she up to right now? What's my beloved daughter doing right at this moment? Do you have the ability to like show me on the view screen?

Just look to take a look at whatever she's up to. But yeah, there's this uncomfortable meetup in the meeting room where Lindsay comes in and is face to face with her father who could have easily been played by Jeffrey Comes. I know, what was he doing at the time? Yeah, was he too busy? Are you sure you want to find out?

I don't dislike this actor who plays Q-Ret, his Kevin Low. Kevin Low is good. He's good. No one's saying Kevin Low is bad. No one is slamming Kevin Low. Hey, a pie for Kevin Low. Yeah. Down low? Too slow. When Voyager goes Kevin Low, we go up high. In the corridor, Kim tells Lindsey, you shouldn't talk to that guy.

That guy's bad, right? But Lindsey wants the closure that this conversation would provide, right? Yeah. Like, you get the sense that she's got that real tell off your dad energy. Yeah. And you think it's going to happen in the conference room. Like, Tuvac and Jane were there and they were wearing dustbusters. And for some reason, Harry Kim is also in there.

And boy, you hate to feel like you're looking good for a meeting. And the first thing that the person you're there to meet says is, ah! Oh! What did they do to your face? Ah! Oh! He was so beautiful.

You don't get the sense that this is the dad that like tells his daughter that she looks great no matter what like just a boost up her confidence. He's also like outraged that he's like you left her body in space. What was that? And they're like that's our custom. And he's like well it's our custom to reanimate people. So it's our custom to eat the rest of that.

What do you think of that? Yeah. So the tearful reunion of father and daughter does not go well, enterprise. What did you think of this scene's question about like, who is right? Because the more Q-Ret talked, the more I'm like, well, he's got a point. Like, I didn't like the part

where he, uh, he made his daughter feel bad for the way she looked. But like all of these connections he's describing, the family and so forth, the fact that, come on, the Voyager was not going to eat the rest of that. Like, this is good. This is using all of the body buffalo here. I love these guys. They're reusing more than anybody else, you know? Yeah, yeah. And it's not like Lindsey is over the caballi as a thing. Like, they're caballi things that are like coming to the surface

and hurt all the time. And the dad in his defense is like, I don't want to fight you on this, but look, I'm gonna fight for my dadder. And it may not just be me next time. And the dad in his defense is like, I don't want to fight you on this. But look, I'm going to fight for my dadder. And it may not just be me next time. I'm going to come back with some folks. And guess what? Anytime another crew person dies on Voyager, they're going to be on our team too. You're not eating the rest of that. We are. Every life is precious to my people, Captain. You might say resistance is futile. Do you think it was a mistake to make this part of the episode so interesting or like, is it intentional to draw some equivalence here in both sides of this argument?

I think the second one. I think this is... Yeah. The best of what Star Trek does is like confuse the shit out of you about who might be right and wrong in a situation like this. Yeah, absolutely. Later on, Lindsay is having a bum out in the restaurant after hours eating her inert

paste that she has to eat now that she's a cobali. If the cobali just eat French onion dip, that's not so bad, right? Oh, yeah. I think I'd be down. That looks good. It's just like a packet of seasoning and like some sour cream and stuff, right? You know what? You can make it yourself by reducing onions

and like doing the whole thing, but it's not gonna be that much better than the French onion soup mix. Yeah. A French onion soup mix doesn't smell up your house either. Cambolic cuisine at its finest. She is so sad about Curet suit mix doesn't smell up your house either. Kibalik cuisine at its finest. She is so sad about Q-Ret that she doesn't even want to do a prank on TuVok.

This is the scene where you learn she doesn't remember her human parents or her other ties. I kind of wanted this realization earlier. Yeah, it seems like a big thing to not remember and to not know that you don't remember for this long. She could draw Harry Kim's clarinet from memory, but she can't remember her own parents. Too bad. So Harry's attempts to cheer her up or not going great, but he's like, let's just, let's do the prank on two Valk. I really got kind of fixated on that. So like I wanna get that done, you know,

before anything happens and she stands up and her face starts to morph back to the Kobali look and unfortunately I thought this effect was a little bit less, well, effective than the earlier morph effect. Have you ever tried to comfort someone in pain and their face started melting? Yeah, when I tried to comfort them

by shredding some sick guitar, bro. Oh, the doctors got bad news about the face melting. This pathogen has adapted to the treatments. And look, it's gonna be fine. She just has to go get hypospraise twice a day to her face. And she is really pissed at the doctor. And she calls him every name in the Kabali book.

Please try to understand. Steika! Napsdika pandai nishabh alb! I don't want face dialysis twice a day. Yeah. Just wanna be normal. I mean, I guess that's the reason you see face dialysis twice a day. Yeah. Just want to be normal. I mean, I guess that's the reason you see face dialysis clinics all around. Hmm.

So it turns out Lindsay is only skin deep. She retreats to the shuttle bay and her own ship, which you would think is parked next to Neelix's ship, but it isn't. No, we don't get to see the, uh, the Q-Racks or whatever the fuck it's called. Harry Kim finds her there. I mean, she's just having a bum out on her ship. Which is a total style, just like her dorm room in college. Kim's like, look, babe! I'll still blow out that back, even if it looks like a caballi back from now on, you know? Let's put these shuttlecraft seats out flat and let's smash.

That'll make you feel better. It always cheers me up. What about getting like a face pump? Like catch or sell white? You know, like maybe you just get, you get that face stuff running constantly. So you're always looking like a woman from the year 2000 with that haircut. Come on, surely we can come up with a solution

to this problem, but she's given up, Ben. She's come around to the idea of not fighting this anymore. And when the banger drops, you can tell she's the only one uninterested in fighting, daddy daddy's back and he's brought friends. Yeah, as promised. And they rush up to the bridge where Voyager is, you know, attempting to repel this attack. And she's like, no, stop, it's all wrong. Let me talk to them. You get to believe if you're like getting casualties on Voyager from this attack, like it's just benefiting the caballi, right?

But casualties don't always mean death, right? That's what we've learned. Yeah. Yeah, maybe not, you know, who knows? When the casualties don't mean death, it means you are gonna eat the rest of that. It's weird how many of our euphemisms have to do with food like the freshening up and the are you gonna eat the rest of that? That's fun. The loaf. I like our show. Yeah, it's a good show.

On the bridge for some reason, Lindy Ballard is invited. Yeah, yeah, and you know, she's like saying call off the attack. I'm gonna go back. I'm gonna go, I'm gonna give the cobali what they want, me. And Harry's trying to stop her. She's like, hey, listen, like I already died and it sucked for both of us. But this way, I'm gonna die and we can actually say goodbye to each other. So in the transporter room, it is goodbye time and Jettlaya arrives there and Kim says goodbye in her language and that's that's fun. And then she says goodbye in his

language with a kiss. He says goodbye in his language. He pulls out a clarinet and plays a few licks. He can barely look at her when he transports her away. This was pretty devastating. Yeah. For a character that we've watched endure romantic trauma over and over and over again, I think this is the toughest one. She does end by saying, listen, I didn't cross everything off my list, but I crossed off the one that mattered most. And then she makes a circle with one pair of fingers and, you know, pokes her index finger from the other hand into that circle.

She kind of turns into profile and like puts both of her hands behind her back and just kind of explodes the hands. So Harry Kim does the beam off. And then the button on the episode is him holding her hairbrush, which, you know, in Kobali land she won't need because she doesn't have hair, so she didn't take it with. Not that we've seen. Hmm. She could be rockin' Kobali bush.

So much that she needs to comb it though. I mean, that's a lot. Yeah. I gotta get the tangles out. Well, uh, Mizati comes in and is quite taken with this hairbrush and here Kim compliments her on her hair. And they agreed to go modify two Valken program for pranks. And they hand in hand had off down the hallway to the holodeck. Weird rebound, Harry Kim. Did you like this episode Ben?

You know, I made it easy to get along with most of the time. But I don't like bullets, I don't like threats, and I don't like you. You love this too. It was an episode that felt so rich with potential, like that not moving on versus moving on tension that we talked about earlier. It's so strange that a writer's room sat around

and pitched ideas for this story and didn't hit on what a big deal that would be for the Voyager crew and what an interesting unexplored angle on Voyager, that would be. Yeah. And for all of the richness of their performances and like some really amazing technique stuff that they did to tell this story,

I felt like it wasn't quite the right story to tell with this premise. I almost feel like it could have been addition by subtraction a bit, like remove the B story altogether. I don't need any of the little esborgs here. Like I would much rather have seven interact with this character additionally

and to like feel the tension of what she would say about reactivating into a, you know, a human existence, another very term as racist, but I think there's some dimensionality that could be added here, especially when you don't really need that littlest, boring story at all, or you could put that into another episode, no problem. But I mean, I still like the episode,

and I like the story, that alien the cabalie Yeah, like the the concept of them. I think is great. It's just a great creation. Yeah, really cool The concept of priority one messages is something that excites me personally at them. Do you want to head into the inbox with me? Priority one message from star fleet coming in on secured channel Need a supplement Priority one message from Starfleet coming in on Secured Channel. Need a supplement on that. supplement on that? supplement on that?

supplement on that? Yeah, it's extra. How do you interest alone? Could be enough to buy this ship! Then we've got three dead priority one messages here. Are you ready to re-animate the first? Yeah, this is a dead message of a promotional nature. Let's get to reanimating.

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Oh man, I'm looking at this game. This art style is really beautiful. I am going to play this game. It's got to be fucked up if it was developed while listening to us though. So yeah, I'm seeing good reviews for this game too. And that's before they get the greatest gen bump. Yeah. I wonder if there's any greatest gen Easter eggs in there. We'll have to play it to find out. Ben our second priority when message is from Daniel, it is to Pugs, that message goes like this. Dear Ben and Adam, please give a shout out to my good friend Pugs. Who is the only guy I know? Who knows what I'm talking about when I say her.

Taken it to the dome. What my theory presupposes is. Or you got schizmed. Wow. I thought Seven of Nine needed her own drops, so please play this. What's your definition? Seven of Nine. Her theory addjunct of Unimetric Zero One. But you may call me Seven of Nine. How would you feel about Seven? We are Borg. Naturally. Are you in love with me? Well, no.

Then you wish to copy me. No! I mean, what? We need to copy it. No. I mean, what? You need to pull it out. I love it when FODs send us their own drops. That's fun. It is fun.

That's a great bit of fun. Great job, Daniel. Yeah. And great job, Pugs. Yeah, knowing what we're talking about. Yeah. Add up an X-Priority One message. And the final prior to you one message of this inbox is from Carly and it's to Matt

Goes like this. I bought a P1 and gave you a shout out which went well I bought another P1 and didn't mention you and then an atom absolutely Undeservantly and unrelatedly roasted me, but this one friend is just for you But this one friend is just for you. Enjoy your time in California, eat citrus, and find a good Troy. NSIC doesn't deserve you, but awaits your tramphoned return. Also, buy a GDP one. Damn, we roasted Carly. I just did a find in sheet for Carly.

Didn't come up. Carly didn't come up. I wonder if Carly changed their name so that we wouldn't roast them anymore. Yeah, weird. Oh, fuck, NSIC is pronounced NSIC. Oh, god damn it. That's not to be confused with N-A-S-I-C,

which is pronounced NSIC. See, that's why I was confused. Yeah. I was confused by the whole thing, and it actually made me want to roast Carly here. No, no, Carly doesn't deserve any of this. All right. But seriously, Matt, like, get a GDP-1. What are you waiting for?

Undeservantly and unrelatedly. What happened there? Yeah. Yeah. Also, Carly get a P1 and explain yourself. That's how you do it, because P1 support the production of our show. You can go to maximumfund.org slash jumbo-tron.

Fill one out today for a better episode tomorrow. Hey Ben. What's that Adam? Did you find yourself a drunk Shimoda? Drunk Shimoda! Ooh, hmm, hmm. I'm gonna give it to Miss Adi. That seven head was just not a good like this. Miss Adi, you did a bad job.

Oh yeah, what a great one. What a great bit. How could it be anyone else? I'm used to kids on Star Trek, polishing dolphins and making really great art. There is a great tradition of kids making sculptures in Star Trek, right? Remember Alexander's like,

Klingon Stein? That was pretty good. Yes. Yes. And then Isabella fucked it up. You know, if Bill Tilly were still making trading cards, I think this would be a triptych card. Oh, yeah.

With all three of them there. Yeah, the bad art trilogy. Yeah, I love it. Love that. Yeah, how about you? Did you have a drunk Shimoda? No, that's gonna be mine too. That was big fun.

That was big fun. Big, big fun Then we got to figure out what the next episode is but without a game What do you want to do about it? I don't know man the game of but holes The will of the caretaker still broken still broken we can't even get to the admin page of it yeah what the hell you know what I'm gonna text Greg Anderson right now see what should I say hey man what the fuck you flaked on dinner and you fucked the game yeah Ben what episode are we gonna watch next week it's a season six episode 19 of Star Trek Voyager called Child's Play. Voyager crew must rescue a young boy being used as a weapon of destruction against the

Boergs. Sounds like a real moral quandary. Sounds like a boy bomb. Ben, here's what I'm going to vote for. Why don't we make the next episode a regular old episode and maybe by then the game will be fixed It's our show we can make up what the rules are. Yeah, I'm just looking forward at the at the production calendar We got a lot on our plate recording wise this week. So I think a regular old episode is is both fair to us Fair to the friends of DeSoto and the right thing to do

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A two-show leg in the Midwest? Not that. That's great. I love Chicago and Minneapolis. Two of our favorite cities to do this show. And probably going to be a lot of extendo family of atoms at that Chicago show. Yeah, if you see any bald guys at the Chicago show, you can assume they're family.

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