The Greatest Generation - Shingle on a Shingle (VOY S3E3)

Episode Date: December 13, 2021

When Kim is thrown into an alien prison for a crime he didn’t commit, Paris is already familiar with the rules. But when Voyager’s initial plan to rescue them fails, Janeway slides into a backup p...lan with a little more firepower. Which hairstyle punches the best? How much better is the REAL Sandrine’s? Are beans on the menu? It’s the episode that goes from wan to wand!Exchange scarves for goods at PodShop.bizSupport the production of The Greatest Generation.Friends of DeSoto for Democracy.Friends of DeSoto for Justice.Follow The Game of Buttholes: The Will of the Caretaker!Music by Adam Ragusea & Dark MateriaFollow The Greatest Generation on Twitter, and discuss the show using the hashtag #GreatestGen!The Greatest Generation is now regularly streaming on Twitch.Facebook group | Subreddit | Discord | WikiSign up for our mailing list!

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Starting point is 00:00:00 Priority 1 message from Starfleet coming in on Secured Channel. Hey friends of Disodo. Before today's episode, we just wanted to take a moment to talk about the historic labor actions being taken by writers and actors in the American Film and Television industry. If you're a fan of the work done by the people who make Star Trek, we hope you'll join us in standing in solidarity with the folks who actually bring these adventures to life. Over the past several years, the AMPTP, the organization that represents the American Film and Television Production Studios, have reduced the profit from movies and TV going to workers. And in so doing,
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Starting point is 00:02:30 It's a Star Trek podcast. Yeah. By a couple of guys, just a little bit embarrassed about having a Star Trek podcast, I'm Adam Pranica. I'm Ben Harrison here to drink first and talk about Star Trek second. Yeah. Yeah. It's a Qu. Yeah. Yeah, very.
Starting point is 00:02:45 It's a Quark Spar episode, Adam. Sure is. We've landed on the Quark Spar Square. Yeah. On the Game of Buttholes. Right on the heels of a Coco Nono Square. Yeah. They shouldn't be that close to each other.
Starting point is 00:03:00 I mean, we've had such a six months on the Game of Buttholes that like we haven't done this very often at all, and now it seems like all we ever do. It's fine. This used to be the only type of show we did. It's interesting that our lives went to hell over those six months also. Yeah, what's that about? I don't know.
Starting point is 00:03:20 What are you drinking today, buddy? All right. I have a story about the cocktail that I mixed. And I did. The cocktail, wow. And I did make a cocktail. So my wife and I were out of town over the weekend. And you keep bringing it up.
Starting point is 00:03:36 You're brag, brag, brag. I'm gonna brag about this cocktail I had at this restaurant bin. So I would say the genre of this restaurant is like, I couldn't even describe it. It's got the steak, it's got the pasta, like American restaurant, is probably what they just should have called it.
Starting point is 00:03:55 American restaurant. Have a great meal. The dogs with us, she's coming everywhere with us. So we're like the people on the patio with the fucking dog eating ram-bunxious puppy. Yeah It's another story so we're out there and we have a great meal and the Did you save room for dessert moment happens? Mm-hmm
Starting point is 00:04:18 How's everything tasting everybody save room for dessert? The thing to say every time is, I'll look at a menu. Yeah, yeah. Dessert menu gets dropped. All the usual suspects are there. You got your little dessert cake. You got a little... A little, like a flowerless chocolate cake,
Starting point is 00:04:34 creme brulee. Every time. Plate of berries. The usual suspects. And then they had their dessert cocktails. Again, you got your remarrows, you got your brandy, I don't know, what other things people drink after? Oh, an espresso.
Starting point is 00:04:52 Yeah, sure. And then, at the very bottom, this list was a mezcal white Russian. That was my face. That was my reaction exactly. What? You can't do that. That's not how this works. It's not how any of this works. You're telling me you're gonna swap out the vodka in a white Russian for for mezcal madness. So you know I ordered it. Yeah. You know I ordered it. That's the thing to do when you see a thing on a menu that doesn't make any fucking sense, you've got to get it. I got it and Ben, it was delicious. Wow.
Starting point is 00:05:32 It's not what I made for the show. I tell you this because it served as inspiration for what I did make. Now here's the thing that I do. I will make this cocktail for people when we have them over for dinner. I've made this cocktail for you on occasion. It's a cocktail I made when we went up to Seattle. And we're just kind of drag and ass the day before Thanksgiving is the time
Starting point is 00:05:56 where you want to like up the energy level. Guys, we just got into town, let's do this. So what I will do is I will make a cocktail that includes a couple of shots of espresso or a very strong cold brew coffee, a shot of a morrow. Right. You put a shot and a half, like the Adam and Ben shot is a two-ounce shot of vodka in there.
Starting point is 00:06:22 You shake it all around, you pour it in a glass of some ice, and that is your suburban speed ball right there, baby. You're on a rocket ship back to party town, and so that's the standard, right? After my experience out of town, I was like, could I take out the vodka and could I put in mezcal? So what I did is I made that drink with instead of vodka, mezcal, a morrow, couple of shots of coffee, okay. Hand full of ice, swished it all around. This is a drink with that name.
Starting point is 00:06:58 Name it, man. It kind of works. I've been mixing more with a morrow than I have in years past, and it is a really interesting second or third ingredient to a thing where you don't want to fuck around with simple syrup. Maybe you don't have any around. It's going to give you a complexity of flavor that you would not get in most other things. And I really love mixing it with coffee.
Starting point is 00:07:23 I think a lot of people do mix Amaro and coffee, so that's not like new ground, but mixing those two things and a third thing. Yeah. In order to give it the booze buzz is what I did here. So that's the drink I got because I'm drinking coffee all day. Yeah. Per your advice to me the tired puppy boy. What about you, Ben? What are you drinking? I'm drinking some straight mezcal right now. I brought the last can of hard seltzer and the last can of hard cider I had in my fridge out for what's next. Right now I'm just I'm starting my record with a copita of some Aguadel sold big. Oh hold that thing up for the viewers. Forget her name but a friend of the Soto made this for us.
Starting point is 00:08:07 Oh that's awesome. You should post that on the Graham dude. That is real nice. I really should. I think that they probably did get posted on the Graham when we opened it up on a code 47. But I'll post it again. I'll take a glamour shot. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:08:22 But yeah, this bottle of bequeesh from Aguid al-Soul is actually something that the pod father, Jesse Thorden gave to me. It was really delicious. Good pick by Jesse. Easy drink in Amaro. If you're new to Amaro, this is not a super high threshold,
Starting point is 00:08:42 crazy gun metal flavor or anything like that. You said Amaro, did you mean Mezcal? I meant Mezcal. Okay. I'm already hampered. Geez. Are you now? No.
Starting point is 00:08:54 Um, but I had Amaro on the brain. I don't know why. Because all I ever do is talk about it. Wow, well, we've got the drinks teed up, Ben, and we've got an episode ahead. We do. I bet the characters in this episode would have killed each other for a taste of these cocktails.
Starting point is 00:09:16 Yeah, if they didn't turn the mezcal bottle into a stabbing implement first. Yeah. We got some fresh fish at him. We get into it. Let's do it, Ben. It's Star Trek Voyager Season 3, episode three, the chute. Three were of course.
Starting point is 00:09:36 Unless you've got something a little bigger in your torpedo tubes, I'm not turning around. Oh, yeah. An episode that opens in a very cranky, yelling, alarm-y prison when Kim gets dumped in. Not sort of place you can expect much sleep, I'd say. A prison that is made all out of core-ten steel.
Starting point is 00:09:55 The shaking chains are in full effect. Saw dust on the floor. Yep. It's not a nice place to be, and we pan over to the chute in question, and it like irises open. I love those irises like that. The kind of chute that if it closed down yet. Oh yeah.
Starting point is 00:10:18 It's just gonna take off some fingers. That's a cutter right there. Ha ha ha. Ha ha ha. And down slides Harry Kim. I see him. We kill him. Yeah!
Starting point is 00:10:30 These aliens look like early era Star Trek movie klingons. Especially Zio, who is such an imposing figure throughout this episode. Yeah. These guys all want a piece of the new prisoner, Harry Kim, and one of them kind of crowds his way to the front and claims Harry. I say you let me have him first. This turns into a fist fight. One of those prison fights where everybody gets in a big circle, and it's like almost
Starting point is 00:11:07 indistinguishable from a breakdancing situation, except for there's two people in the middle, not one. The thing about Garrett Wong's hairstyle as Warren in this scene is that this 90s hairstyle punches great. It reads so well when this character is hit in the face over and over again, because it kind of poms, poms around. Yeah. So much secondary action with that hair.
Starting point is 00:11:34 There's a moment here, which is like, Harry Kim's hero turn when like the camera racks in and he's like, um, okay guys, it's not that I'm stuck in here with you, it's that you're stuck in here with me. And then the fists start flying. Yeah. He winds up getting pushed to the edge of the circle at a certain point and lands in the arms of what he thought would be a friendly face. Tom Paris is there. Tom Paris halls off on him.
Starting point is 00:12:08 Yeah, you got to impress the prison alpha in this moment, and that's the choice that Tom Paris makes. Welcome to Fight Club, Harry. I feel like when you're in Starfleet, you agree on some rules up front. If we're ever gonna be in prison, and you have to punch me, stay away from the moneymaker. All right. Keep it in the torso area if you can or the knee.
Starting point is 00:12:31 If you think it's easier to sell a fake gut punch that it is, a fake face punch. Like no question. Like, yeah, because you can, you can make contact with the torso a lot more than you could with the face, right? Yeah. I wonder if Paris pulled his punch a little bit. I mean, it doesn't look like it. No.
Starting point is 00:12:48 Harry looks fucked up. Paris explains to anyone who will listen that Harry Kim is gonna be his property due to the fact that Harry Kim is why Paris is in jail to begin with. I kind of wished that they, because the prisoners all seem to be the same type of alien, and I wished they had addressed that a little bit, like, who the fuck are you guys like, what were to do even go to?
Starting point is 00:13:15 You don't look like us. What's wrong with your foreheads? I could not get past the credit sequence, Ben. I replayed the credit sequence four or five times. You know why? Beans Morocco. Beans Morocco is in this episode. You get a Beans Morocco in your episode. You know you're gonna strap in for something good. One of the great careers in all of Hollywood. Oh yeah? He has been in every television show that the card daddy has ever seen. I'm enjoyed.
Starting point is 00:13:47 I'm pretty sure this guy is one of card daddy's favorite actors. And with a name like that, you tell him you don't have a part for beans. Why don't you give a part to beans? He's a working actor. Give beans a part. Yeah. Still alive. 87 years young.
Starting point is 00:14:06 Man. It's Morocco. Well, cheers to beans, Morocco, Adam. Yeah. We forgot to have a toast at the beginning of this trip. Oh, yeah. But I'll drink to beans. So they finally get a moment alone.
Starting point is 00:14:19 Tom has a little hovel set aside for himself that he and Harry go back to, and they talk about how they got locked up. They both kind of got run through this Kafka-esque terrible judicial system that the Akritereans employ. Yeah, judicial theater, I call it. They have an awful alien name for a drunk asod. I'm gonna hit the Pommel horse most times.
Starting point is 00:14:49 I tried to pronounce that one. Yeah, and they also talk a little bit about like what a fucked up place this is. They think they're 300 meters underground. They haven't even seen any guards. This is even worse than Rura Pente. It is like at least there You could get to the surface. They don't make a lot of hay out of this But Harry Kim's ideas about how to get out of there are so fucking stupid
Starting point is 00:15:15 We've got to explain to somebody that there's been a mistake Who did you have in mind? That I I really could have used a reverse shot of Tom Paris, like, oh my God, I'm stuck in prison with this fucking guy. Like, he's my best friend, but also holy shit. Like, this is bad. Kim is gonna be a drag on Paris the whole time. It's something that you and I know as the viewers,
Starting point is 00:15:37 but not something that Paris gives voice or attitude toward. In a way that I feel like he could credibly do. Like, Kim is going to get Paris killed. Yeah. In the same way that Paris is like probably the worst wingman you could imagine for Harry. Yeah. Paris has been to prison many times before.
Starting point is 00:15:59 Yeah. This is the briar patch for Paris. Nothing is made out of that though. Yeah. Yeah. I've been accused of that though. Yeah, yeah. I've been accused of a lot of things, Harry. I came on this ship out of prison. I'm used to this shit.
Starting point is 00:16:13 Yeah. Kim was like, let's find a guard and just tell him that there's a big mistake. It's not what you do, Harry Kim. I could tell that day that Harry Kim wouldn't make it here. There are no guards to even talk to, Harry Kim. But there is the clamp, and this is a thing that is attached to every prisoner's head. It's a device that turns everyone into the prison into kind of a Rorschach type of figure. And then they can't take it out without dying.
Starting point is 00:16:49 Usually a little blinky device stuck to your head is a good thing in Star Trek. Right. But not here. Yeah, no one's having a clip show time in this prison. No. So they also talk about how hungry they both are, and Paris has been here for a couple of days.
Starting point is 00:17:07 Paris is down by law at this point, and he hasn't seen any food show up yet. Yikes, I mean, you can tell why everyone's a little edgy. They're hypoglycemic. Yeah, they're hungry. And a alarm goes off, and everybody's really excited because food is coming. And it's even worse than shit on a shingle at them
Starting point is 00:17:26 It's fucking cliff bars. It's shingle on a shingle. Yeah That's it. That's what they get to eat and people are shivering each other over it Some guy gets his throat slashed fighting over this thing. What a terrible way to go Desperate for a cliff bar. I didn't even get to eat it. We finally cut back to Voyager where Janeway's log tells us that Kim and Paris have been gone for days. And the acraterian authorities are extremely unhelpful in this moment. We get to meet one of these authority figures, Ben. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:18:03 This ambassador, Luria, is Robert Pine. Chris Pine's dad. No kidding, I didn't know that. Yeah. I knew that it was Robert Pine. I didn't know there was any relation. Amazing. What a hunk.
Starting point is 00:18:17 Yeah, he's got good news and bad news. The bad news is that Paris and Kimmer and prison for terrorism, the good news. He's Chris Pines father. I'm sure the same could be said of anyone who is near the explosion. Yeah. If you're a real, like, Ham and Egger of an actor who's just like a working actor, like
Starting point is 00:18:37 Robert Pine, you're going to be okay when you're Chris Pines father. Yeah. You're going to do fine. Uh, he still works, right? Yeah. Like, he's got recent credits. Absolutely. You're gonna do fine. He still works, right? Like he's got recent credits. Absolutely. Okay, works as Assof.
Starting point is 00:18:49 He explains that Kim and Paris have been found guilty of bombing like a YMCA or something. You can blow up an old car. You can strap cartoon dynamite to support beams you can do whatever what you feel so no help and we're actually also gonna be impounding your ship and searching for evidence of the trilithium explosives that they used to do it. Oh boy, this is an escalation to the moment.
Starting point is 00:19:33 Holy shit. The look on Janeway's face when she is told to heave to and be boarded is like... Withering. Like fuck I'm gonna have to. Yeah, Robert Pine does not get compliance in this moment and instead Janeway takes her ship out of orbit in an extremely tacky effect shot. Yeah, the very, very digital space effects
Starting point is 00:19:58 really stood out in this episode. Look, I'm not in favor of George Lucas seeing a bunch of old Star Trek episodes but I might just snip this off of it completely. We don't need the shot. This is addition by subtraction. Get it out of here. Somebody do one of those like YouTube comparison videos where they render this stuff out on their on their home PC in 2022, and it looks way better. You tell me we don't have 20 different versions of the Voyager leaving the orbit of a place.
Starting point is 00:20:31 Yeah, yeah, come on. Kim and Yez. Get the way. Get the way. In prison, I don't know if you get this. Sometimes I get a little scalp acne. Just can't stop picking at it when it's there. It's bad.
Starting point is 00:20:44 And Kim is messing with his clamp, like so much scalp acne when Paris returns. And it's Kim that's getting edgy from the thing and Paris explains that it's the clamp, man. The clamp be like that. Yeah. It fucks with your equilibrium. The way to fight the clamp is to think about better times.
Starting point is 00:21:06 Yeah. Don't succumb to the clamp, fight it. Right. It's tough. So they start thinking about better times, but they also start thinking about how to escape through the chute. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:21:18 And I don't know. In this scene, I thought, let's say your order of operations was escaping the chute, and then dealing with the clamp. Right. Don't you have to start with the clamp. I feel like as soon as you get up in the chute, the chute is going to do something to the clamp that kills you or something.
Starting point is 00:21:37 Likely the clamp is some kind of low jack or like I know that Rura Pente doesn't have an electronic frontier. No. This place probably does, and I bet the doesn't have an electronic frontier. No. This place probably does, and I bet the clamp is a part of it. Yes. This is what was so crazy to me in the scene is like I would make clamp job one. Yeah, but they do talk about like Paris saw a guy try to take out his clamp and it punched his ticket.
Starting point is 00:22:01 So. Yeah, that guy's probably an idiot though. This is a prison full of idiots. That guy never went to Starfleet Academy. That's what I'm saying. I think Kim's way smarter than those people. Well, Kim is who Tom Parrish puts his hopes in because he's got a pipe and he's like,
Starting point is 00:22:20 hey, like, with a couple of modifications, I bet you could use this to turn off that super shocky force field on the shoot. Harry Kim's a grubber idea of making jail-breaking inventions out of prison materials. It's about to come to fruition here. Yeah. Paris, hand me that brick of pseudo food. We only have 15 seconds left, Harry.
Starting point is 00:22:50 Zio, hand me that other brick of weird food. Only 11 seconds left now, Harry. Hey, rib. Your name is actually rib? Seriously, like that's your name rib I'm supposed to believe that It's better than beans Morocco Back on the Voyager they have to have a McLaughlin group is your one and they decide that the best way to
Starting point is 00:23:26 group is your one and they decide that the best way to deal with this is solve the crime figure out who blew up the YMCA first and then we'll go back we'll offer up the off world terrorism collaborators to James Kirk's dad and then he'll be in a mood to help us. Janeway claps back at BLT in a way that I found very bracing in the moment. We've got to go back for Harry and Tom. Nah, fuck that. We're not gonna have any of that tood in this McLaughlin group, Eleanor Clifft.
Starting point is 00:24:00 I feel like it's a little bit strange that they choose to trust the suspicions of the AQUATERIANS, AQUATERIANS. Like AQUAD, AQUATERIANS, AQUATERIANS. AQUATERIANS. Ankylisor. But they are gonna trust those guys that there were some off-world collaborators with the terrorists and they're going to help them in their war on terror. Right, and part of what makes this problem especially difficult to solve is that like the
Starting point is 00:24:34 tri-lethium that was said to have been used in this attack is often confused with parallel theum, which is a type of thing that old gelapi ships used to get around. Tri-lithium was like the thing in the missiles that that old guy in Star Trek generations was using to blow up suns, right? You don't have to do this, Salmon. That's right, yeah. So they're saying like you can convert diolithium into tri-lithium, but you can also convert perilithium into in the trilithium.
Starting point is 00:25:05 As long as you've got some lithium, you can probably get to three of them. That's right. Yeah, and if you can do that, you can be imprisoned for a crime that you didn't commit. Yeah, so that's all the evidence those guys needed to convict the Voyager crew and Tom and Harry. So they are off to look for
Starting point is 00:25:28 parallelism because it's used in ionic propulsion in this area, but back in the jail, we're modifying this pipe with 14 gauge romance in order to trip the break on the food shoot. You can find most gauges of row max at your local home center, but we're salvaging some from a demoed wall panel. Ordinarily you'd want to run it through some conduit so that your local inspector will pass it for code.
Starting point is 00:25:58 That way it'll be safe, and it won't cause a fire when you seal it up in the wall behind the drywall. Nothing suspicious about this. Harris is the lookout. Well Kim is doing some hot wiring of the chute. Yeah. And we see something happen here that I know Ben you and I've seen in the war movies of our viewing past.
Starting point is 00:26:22 I want to say this is from Rescue Don, right? Wasn't it Rescue Don where they talked about what's in their dream fridge? Oh yeah, yeah. They start coming up with the food that will keep them sane. The food that they'll look forward to when they get the hell out of this hellhole. I've definitely had that experience. I did like an outward bound type program in high school and I was in the, I was in the, in the wilderness for 30 days and. Wasn't that the experience where all you did was like drink coolate and get diarrhea? I didn't get diarrhea. I drank coolate and it made my push. Your diarrhea been, don't try to.
Starting point is 00:27:00 It made my poops green, but they were solid BMs. They were not loose. You heard it here first. Diary of Ben had green solid poop. Yeah, I'd never since, but yeah, that feeling of like I haven't had like restaurant style food in a really long time and don't know when I next will is a real thing.
Starting point is 00:27:25 I liked it a lot. Like Paris was like reminiscing about real sundreens. Yeah, the sundreens without Nielix. The best one of all. The sundreens where Harry isn't there to capitalize on all of the romantic opportunities that Tom would be otherwise capitalizing on. Yeah, guess what? Kim also does not capitalize on his wire work here because he gets some
Starting point is 00:27:51 war-flightening for the trouble. It is rough stuff. Yeah, I think this is just the shoots reaction to them saying that they would eat Nielix's food if they could. It's a scene that also initiates a fairly complex knife fight with the guy from before. A real beat it video style knife fight and one that Tom Paris ends up losing. Kim in this scene goes absolutely wild
Starting point is 00:28:23 with this tiny piece of pipe in a way that I couldn't help but laugh at in a way that they weren't going for because the way Kim swings this tiny pipe around makes him look like he's holding a novelty baseball bat that they give away before a game. Like it's too tiny to look threatening. You can't double hand something that short and make it look threatening, I feel like. You need two, right? Right. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:28:48 Give them two pipes. Like John Woo. It makes them look pathetic in a way that I don't think was intentional. And I understand that they're supposed to be at the end of their rope and like he's supposed to be like panicking because Tom Paris has taken a shift to the gut, but like what he is doing has the effect of causing all of the other prisoners to back away in fear. And that is not the energy that makes it not threatening it all. And I almost think that not having a pipe at all would be more effective because it would make Kim look like he's in more danger than he is.
Starting point is 00:29:36 Yeah. The Shiv fight does not go well, Enterprise. It goes especially unwell for Paris who has to be dragged back to Kim's cell after the swarthy prisoner named Zio makes his own medical pronouncement by like touching the wound. Yeah, this guy's done for. I thought he was going to like heal him by laying his hands on him or something. Yeah. Zio has this kind of like, hippie energy that,
Starting point is 00:30:05 totally. That in this scene, I was like, oh man, like this guy's gonna be like the guy in the jail that has like some magic power that saves them and gets them through. I totally wanna rent Scooby Gears from this guy and Hawaii. And just like try to befriend him in that way, like where he'll tell you where the real good spot is.
Starting point is 00:30:25 Like, the place he doesn't tell the tourists. You guys want to see some turtles, huh? I know where the turtles are. Coffee black, make it yourself. I'm trying to help you see this as an opportunity to grow. Make it yourself. They go back to the hovel that Tom Paris had secured previously, and it's full of old dudes who don't wanna take them in.
Starting point is 00:30:47 Including beans Morocco, ladies and gentlemen, beans Morocco. This place is ours. Get out, get out, get out! beans Morocco is there. You don't wanna get back to the way you're living and find beans there. No.
Starting point is 00:31:01 He's only there to deliver bad news. Yeah. Beans Morocco sounds like a dish. I like how they taste and they cook pretty fast. It does, which is why when I saw his credit on screen and started googling, that's what came up. He's like, oh, cumin delicious. It looks like you're searching for Moroccan beans. And also this extremely weird sex position.
Starting point is 00:31:22 You've been to Morocco, right? I have. Did you have beans to Morocco, right? I have. Did you have beans while you were there? I don't remember having beans. Beans were not on the menu, boys. You missed out, Adam. One of the great delicacies of North Africa is the beans Morocco. God, I really blew it.
Starting point is 00:31:41 Yeah. Well, I have to go back. I wind up showing up on Zio's doorstep. God, I really blew it. Yeah. Well, I have to go back. I wind up showing up on Zio's doorstep. Zio breaks away from writing the next chapter of the Hobbit or something to take them in. And Zio has expressed some interest in Paris's boots. And Harry actually uses his own boots as a tool of barter.
Starting point is 00:32:07 And Zio's like, sorry, I can't help you, dude. Your feet are way smaller than mine. Paris, those might fit me. Yours definitely not. Zio wants that pipe, and Kim is like, I'm not willing to part with that. So what is on the table, though, isn't that pipe? It's bringing Zio with them. Like look, we're gonna get out of here.
Starting point is 00:32:26 I know you don't believe it with this haircut and this piece of pipe. We're going out tonight. Zio's like, I don't know if I've got time. When you're a writer like I am, what you need to do is block out the time it takes to write your manifesto. These are my morning pages.
Starting point is 00:32:42 That's what I'm trying to say. Writer's block is an excuse not to work, and I've professionalized. Yeah, look, guys, I'm turning into the camera right now. Friend to Disodo, if you wanna finish your manifesto, you just need to block out the time. Just every day, every day. Starting at 9 a.m., that's writing time.
Starting point is 00:33:03 You turn off the Wi-Fi, you get the fucking page is done. Doesn't matter if it's five minutes or an hour, progress is progress to the manifesto. How many people in our audience do you think are currently working on a manifesto? I think a non-zero amount of our viewers are working on a manifesto. How many people that currently co-host this show are working on a manifesto?
Starting point is 00:33:30 I think a non-zero amount of hosts at this show. Currently working on a manifesto. The problem is, man, I just can't carve out the time. Yeah, I'm like, I never get past like human history as the history of class struggle and then I'm like, I don't know what to put after this. Eventually I'll get to my demands. I just can't wait to get to my demands. But I'm not ready yet.
Starting point is 00:33:54 I'm not as scraggly as I was at the peak of the lockdown. I really like bearded out for a while there. Didn't you walk more Tom Paris beard? Like by the time we get Paris beard, it feels like it's too late. It's too late. We don't get to relish in his beardy, a cardie brother. I cut you off though, Ben.
Starting point is 00:34:13 I think you're gonna say you're caring more about your facial grooming than before. I was just saying like, I was making a lot more headway on the manifesto then, you know. You know what, it's funny. You want to look like the manifesto then, you know. You know what, it's funny, you want to look like the manifesto writer, you want to be seen as.
Starting point is 00:34:27 You want to look like the manifesto writer that would really put chills in people when they saw the police sketch of. Yeah, when you unfurled the rags that you've written it on. This guy is not messing around. He wrote it on coffee bags. The Voyager has made pretty quick work of looking for fugitives. And the first people that they pull up on are gentleman and a young lady.
Starting point is 00:34:57 And they're like, hey, so we're just kind of looking around. Anybody that's got parallel to him, we're asking about this. What do you guys know? And the girl is like, don't tell her anything. I love how universal this moment is when there's two people who are somewhat the same age together in the same place. Janeway is like, we'll have to transport you and your wife to our ship for interrogation.
Starting point is 00:35:22 And he's like, he's my sister and our political views and none of your business. You, what the hell? It doesn't matter what century you're in. That is always gonna be extremely off-putting. These people spill the beans pretty quickly that they are exactly who the Voyager is looking for. And not only that,
Starting point is 00:35:43 BLT detects the tri-lithium in their ship. This guy's sister, Peary, pops off at Janeway about how easy it would be for her to just take the Voyager on a rescue mission, shoot a couple of torps at the prison, free both their political prisoners and Paris and Kim, and call it a fucking day. And it's such an interesting moment in the scene because Janeway's reaction is like, we don't do that kind of thing. We're starfully, but it does soften her up in the scene
Starting point is 00:36:13 in a way that changes her entire attitude from what it was in the beginning. Yeah, like we don't know what open sky, the terrorist organization, or patriots depending on which direction you're looking at them from, want. Sure. But this kind of raises an interesting question
Starting point is 00:36:33 that I wish that the episode had engaged with more. There's a big conversation in the international development world right now about when you donate a bunch of medical donate like a bunch of like medical equipment to a country that has like a really fucked up government and like work with their ministry of health, you sort of validate that government by working with them and it's like, okay, like on the one hand like more people will be helped if we can get this government to distribute this vaccine or pill or whatever get this government to distribute this vaccine or pill or whatever on the other hand, like it further entrenched the power of this corrupt thing. And it's sort of like an imperialist attitude to take toward a developing country when you do it that way. And like that's sort of implied by this open sky group in this episode. And the episode just like completely avoids
Starting point is 00:37:28 engaging with that. It does. I just wanted to do one thing to like make me sympathize with these two, you know? It doesn't make Val any more sympathetic that he's like wearing these big fucking goofy horns and like a bear skin. Yeah, yeah.
Starting point is 00:37:43 Like put a shirt, Val, what the fuck is wrong with you? It does make me think, why not do this rescue mission, Janeway, it would kick a lot of ass to see the Voyager strife in there. And get these guys out, but we don't get an answer to that at this point. We go back to the prison where we see
Starting point is 00:38:04 Tom Paris is reluctant to trust Zio. Maybe part of that reluctance comes from his confidence beard. Yeah. That he's now grown. This is a passage of time beard. This is the technology we're seeing right now. The second he got stabbed, a bunch of hair follicles started like kicking into high gear in his face.
Starting point is 00:38:22 Let me tell you something, man. If all you had to do was take a wound to the gut with a stabbing implement to grow a full and lustrous beard, I'd want you to stab me, Ben. Wow. Stabbing the belly. Do you want a beard that bad? I want one pretty bad.
Starting point is 00:38:41 Wow. I'm just not willing to walk the miles it takes to get one. It's the thing. Yeah. Nor is my wife. My wife especially doesn't want me walking those miles. No, yeah. Her opinion matters.
Starting point is 00:38:56 It really does. The person up against whom that face rubs most often. She who has to look at my face. Ha ha ha. Adam, have you had your broads today? face rubs most often. She who has to look at my face. Adam, have you had your broads today? That's a great call. I'm going to go get them. Got them. Hey, did you see the Broadbogo code that went out last week?
Starting point is 00:39:17 I did not. Oh, man, I should have forwarded you the email. Why don't you forward me? Because I thought stupidly that you were already getting their emails. I probably am, I just don't look at those. I don't look at promotions. You gotta accept brod into your inbox.
Starting point is 00:39:34 I gotta put them on the green list. Yeah man, I've got four boxes coming. Fuck. Fuck. I can't believe you got through the ones that you ordered the last time when they sponsored the show. I know we haven't had to talk about our finances lately, but that's a business expense. What the fuck?
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Starting point is 00:42:00 I got tickets that look would not be selling us. Gold. It pairs gets gets to looking worse and worse in this episode, but I feel like at this point he like hits a midpoint where he's like sweaty and slightly beardy in a way that's really attractive actually. Even Zio is like, you know, I'm kind of the alpha in terms of good looking prisoners But when I look down at this sweaty Tom Paris god damn. Yeah good looking guy too bad. He's gonna be dead soon Yeah, he sort of Once wants them to leave him behind and and Harry's like I'm not gonna do that and Zio starts to explain about his manifesto. This is just unwelcome.
Starting point is 00:42:49 Like, it's fun to have friends who are writers, but when that's the only thing they want to talk about ever. Yeah, their work. Your work is not a personality, Zio. Yeah. I think the problem for Zio is that he doesn't have readers, you know Like if people were reading this he wouldn't have to tell everyone about it The readers you need to know are all around you
Starting point is 00:43:20 We're in hell right now gentlemen, but he's got a theory about the clamp and the old you know This this prison and the clam, his manifesto is about all of this stuff and he thinks it's like a big experiment about making them kill each other to prove something about the human condition. I know that the very term is racist, but... What's fun is seeing this escape happen because the pipe has been wired and it's ready to be tested and so Kim takes it to the chute. I was really worried that they were leaving Paris behind.
Starting point is 00:43:50 I thought so too. Yeah. When Zio touches the chute it does not shock him. Yeah. And so they crawl right up in there and it leads then after a couple of twists and turns through the ducting, Yeah. To a hatch, and they wipe off the glass to the hatch, Yeah. And the camera pulls back to reveal the awful truth that their circumstances. They're not underground. They're on a space station.
Starting point is 00:44:21 This space station isn't underground with me. I'm in space with you. Fun, fun, twist, Adam. Yeah, this is great. This is the moment before you get the credits at an episode and lost. That's what this moment is. Right, this is the end of the fucking season and lost. Yeah, this is the middle of a Voyager episode. Right. They're not leaving you dangling like JJ Abrams. There is no surface to escape to. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:44:52 So this is a sad moment when Kim returns to Paris interrupting his sexy dream that he's having about the Delaney sisters. Yeah. And Paris is asleep. Maybe you just let Paris sleep if you're Kim. Paris is not looking great at this point. He's, he's, he's won. Yeah, Zio is diagnosed Paris with Wad.
Starting point is 00:45:15 Call your doctor if you experience Wad. Longer than four hours, let the way Paris is. He's kind of losing the plot too, right? Like, he doesn't know what the fuck he's talking about. Well, especially because in a few scenes, previous Paris is like, look Kim, if it comes down to it and I get stabbed by a rando, I want you to get the fuck out of here and up into the chute and save yourself.
Starting point is 00:45:39 Yeah. And now he's like, you killed me, you piece of shit. Yeah, and this moment is like, you owe it to me to potentially die yourself, to get me out of here with you. Do not leave me here alone. Yeah. He's not looking good. No, and I mean, no one's feeling good
Starting point is 00:45:57 with all the laughter going on inside of all of their brains. There's sort of a weird scene where they have trouble getting some sleep. Yeah. Because there's a studio audience making sound of their brains. They're sort of a weird scene where they have trouble getting some sleep. Because there's a studio audience making sound in their brains. They're like sleeping together in a bed that is smaller than a twin bed. And I guess the clamp is just piping in like the Seinfeld audience or something.
Starting point is 00:46:19 I had an extremely difficult time seeing this scene. I was just in a normally lit room during the daytime and I thought the contrast during this scene and many others made what I was watching extremely hard to parse. This was like maybe the worst of it, but like the scene was so dark to me. It was very dark. I lowered the blinds and that helped. Oh yeah, I bet you did. You don't want anyone to watch you watching Star Trek. I put on my headphones. That's what you do.
Starting point is 00:46:51 Got out of tube suck. Look at that wand he is. Oh man. Go from wand to wand. What should you do? Ha ha ha. The next day, Kim and Zio are discussing an escape because while they were very disappointed to go up to the top of the chute and see that it was just a window out to space, the idea
Starting point is 00:47:18 that they're on a space station does suggest an escape that has to do with a ship that could be there to drop off prisoners and those little food bricks, maybe they could hop on out of the ship and take it. I thought it was interesting that they were having this conversation just kind of like out in the open. Like this was not information that they were trying to keep from the other prisoners.
Starting point is 00:47:38 And this is a scene that really drew a line under the kind of crazy that Zio is, because Kim's trying to be serious with Zio about what they need to do to get the hell out of here, and Zio just will not shut up about the manifesto. Like come on, Zio, like this is your chance to get out of here. And Kim is like, I'm not trying to read anything right now, except for the instructions to a ship
Starting point is 00:48:05 that's gonna come here to drop off food bricks and more prisoners. What he wants to do right now in this very moment, Ben is foment. And he starts fomenting like crazy in this scene. Yeah. Yeah. I cast the trolley.
Starting point is 00:48:20 Yeah. Harry is really not himself. Like I thought that Garrett Wong's performance here was really good. Like he is still using his like star fleet brain to like work the problem, but he's also like ignoring guys getting stabbed behind him. And Harry Kim is like in his bones,
Starting point is 00:48:40 like in his in his very DNA, is like a character that is drawn to being left in space somewhere. Which this Harry Kim has been. There's a there's a Harry Kim that got left even more in space than than that. So I know. He probably sit there and say crap. This fomenting goes nowhere though. This fomenting falls flat. I love this moment. Like a bombing comedian at the Apollo. There's a giant cane going out to pull him off stage. Shit's getting thrown at him.
Starting point is 00:49:13 Until finally, some of this shit actually hits him in the head. Yeah. He was kind of trying to like inspire the troops. Like if we all work together, we can overthrow the plutocrats that exploit our labor or whatever. We eat the room. We eat the room, man. Kim, no one's looking at that forehead as something they want to follow around. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:49:35 He's not really inspiring the troops and frustrated. He heads back to, I guess, is Zio's hoffle now, but what he finds is Tom Paris just in a, in a days like disassembling that pipe. He's like, if I just take the wiring and the circuitry out from the middle of this thing, I can use it as a pretty great sleeve for my penis. Now if you've been confined to a prison for a crime you didn't commit, it can come in handy to have something to work out your sexual urge as a... Today we're using silicon additives to retrofit this pipe as a flashlight. I'm Richard Trithui, who will be spending today's episode in a federal penitentiary to experience what it's like. Having a great time, it's the classic plumbers lament. I'm down in the boiler room of this federal penitentiary, where you might be surprised if the technology's employed. So, Zio has grown impatient with the situation.
Starting point is 00:50:46 He's watching Kim and Paris fuck around in his tiny apartment, and finally Zio's like, you guys gotta get out of here. Paris is dragging us all down. It really seems like Paris should die. Like, it would be easier for me, Kim, if you just killed Paris. Take him off the board because he's dragging you down too.
Starting point is 00:51:04 He's like so much dead weight. I was trying to teach you how killed Paris, take him off the board because he's dragging you down to. I was trying. He's like so much dead weight. I was trying to teach you how to like work the clamp to your advantage and now you're going to club your homey to death with his pipe. Come on. You know what's great about the manifesto is you you wrap this this drapey towel over a Tom Paris. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:51:24 And you just choke him out with it. You can use the manifesto as a weapon. It's a, it's one of the only manifestos that ever written that can cut off an air supply. Kim's not going to do this. So Paris and Kim have to find a new place to live, which is a pretty desperate moment in the episode. Yeah, but Zio's like, you can join me, follow the way of the manifesto,
Starting point is 00:51:52 we'll recruit more. You get seven friends to join the manifesto, and they'll each get seven friends to join the manifesto. Right. You know, like pulse guns are at the other end of the shoot now. Like we can get up the shoot, but there's still guys with guns. But if we have everybody on our side, if they all believe, we can really sell a lot of leggings.
Starting point is 00:52:13 It's the only reason you even write a manifesto is to do something like this. Make big structural change is what a manifesto is for. And that's what Zio's all about here. Yeah. Not a killer. Do you want to survive? And here, you'd better learn to be. If you've been missing Chris Pines' father, I'm here to tell you that he did not just get the one scene. He gets a second scene, and that scene is now. Janeway is negotiating with him about the release of Kim and Paris. But the Akraterians live in a society
Starting point is 00:52:53 where like there's a movie that's been popping up on our antenna cable a lot lately, but I don't know if you've seen this movie with Ashley Judd called Double Jeopardy. Oh, I've seen that movie. It is insane as a movie. It's absolutely bonk. The state says you're already killed your husband.
Starting point is 00:53:11 They can't convict you of it a second time. Almost as bonkers as the legal system, as depicted in Double Jeopardy, is the Acritarian legal system, which pronounces guilty is guilty no matter what new evidence you may have. Yeah. The legal system cannot retroactively acknowledge a mistake because that would cause the whole system to collapse. And Robert Pine is like, yeah, works great for us. It really keeps people from may or may not committing crimes. Like, yeah. I mean, it's kind of... It's a real deterrent to doing anything, really. It's the eto logic, right? It's like, we're not really sure, like, how bad of a thing you did.
Starting point is 00:53:52 We're just gonna condemn you to, like, a horrible death in a terrifying, rusty prison. At least the eto are hanging dong. I mean, there's nothing about the accraterians that suggest that anyone's having a good time. There's nothing appealing about them at all. And so Janeway's like, all right, fuck you guys. I'm gonna go work with the terrorist guy that we have on board that hates you because he's like, he's right.
Starting point is 00:54:17 The enemy of my enemy is my friend, even if they are a terrorist. So she's like, yeah, I'm not actually to turn you over if you do this for me. Like, give me the, give me the coordinates. I'm going to turn you guys over to your authorities unless you tell me where this prison is. And he's like, I don't think so. I've got, I've got different ideas. But and what I want you to do is get all of my friends out of jail also. And she's like, you don't have any leverage here. Yeah, it's wild.
Starting point is 00:54:49 I mean, I love the impudence of Vell. Yeah. It's big fun. I'm not a good negotiator. And I don't think this guy does a great job in this scene, but I love the fact that he like tries anything, because I never would, you know. I mean, there's a desperation to this moment that I find really credible. Like, what is
Starting point is 00:55:12 Vell have to lose? Anyway, no deal is what Janeway says. And form the octetary and say we're ready to turn the prison yourself. She's just going to drop Vellan a sister in that very same prison if they have to. Yeah. Like on the same trip, like a ride share driver doing a drop. There's coffee in the prison. It's like, all right, all right, all right,
Starting point is 00:55:35 I'll tell you how to get them out. And so they're gonna go do it. They're gonna do it in Nielix's ship, a ship that I can't remember ever seeing. Yeah. We only ever saw like Nielix's ship, a ship that I can't remember ever seeing. Yeah. We only ever saw Nielix's ship from the view screen, I feel like, like the inside of. It is really Lego-sheik. It is like a four block of a Lego brick with a windshield.
Starting point is 00:56:00 Yeah. So, like, things have gotten bad enough that Harry Kim is like physically fighting off the prison gangs and Like a fucking boss Janeway is the first one down the shoot with the fucking phaser rifle on wide Blast a bunch of prisoners Tuba comes down after her with the dust buster. Hands on your hips. And a couple more security guys come down. They're getting set upon by a criteria and patrol ships.
Starting point is 00:56:32 And we kept it like inside Felix's ship, which the last time we saw it was like a hoarder house. It was like full of shit. And now it's all like clean and nice. I feel like the federation way of life has really rubbed off on Nelix. It was really like gray, tilaxian gardens up in that ship.
Starting point is 00:56:51 It was full of cats. Nothing worse on telling you. I mean, does Nelix kind of look like Alf too? Yeah, no wonder it was full of cats. He was hard up for food sources. Ben, this scene presents the greatest challenge to any director of Star Trek. And it is, can you make it look cool
Starting point is 00:57:19 for a captain of a Federation starship to slide down a chute? Yeah. Into a scene, phasers blasting. of a Federation starship to slide down a chute. Into a scene, phasers blasting, and this is a success. You want to know why it's a success? You don't POV inside the chute and see a Janeway slide down it toward the camera. It's just a surprise that she shows up.
Starting point is 00:57:40 She bursts into the scene like fucking cool-ate man, and it rules. The fun choice is being in the chute with her. Yeah. But that's also the wrong choice. Yeah. When we get back to the ship, like we get like one last little scene where the doc is like pulling the clamps out of their brains. And he's like, oh yeah, that was totally like making you guys angry-ass motherfuckers.
Starting point is 00:58:04 And in retrospect, Zio was the only person, like, Zio was nuts as hell, but he had figured out how to like, how to like, channel that into manifesto writing energy, you know? Weird button on this episode where like the last scene is like, Zio being placed into the electric chair and executed in this prison and Tom hanks is there like crying so sad It's tough
Starting point is 00:58:33 Harry and Tom lockdown the corridor and Harry's like hey, so like I'm kind of thinking about being haunted After this at Tom is like no dude come on take it from me You're just a lot of jails you're not haunted you're hungry yeah let's go get a burger buddy yeah Paris is hungry for friendship and at sound dreams that dishes all you can eat Did you like this episode Adam? You know, I'm maybe even to get along with post-opestime, but I don't like bullets and I don't like friends and I don't like you. I'm just joking. I feel like you are entitled,
Starting point is 00:59:15 and I don't use that word lightly, entitled to a prison episode, and Star Trek every once in a while. In prison for a crime you didn't commit specifically, it was time. It was time. It was time for one of these episodes. High time indeed. Kim being the O'Brien of Star Trek Voyager, the person that we just vlog.
Starting point is 00:59:38 I did like the episode. It was weird fun. I expected more from the chute. Yeah. As a thing, if you're going to name your your episode, the chute, I expected it to be a little more exotic, a little more dangerous, a little more interesting. It was not that. It was just your run of the mill chute. Is there like a movie where they find out that the prison that they're in is a space station? I mean, this is face off, right?
Starting point is 01:00:05 Like you're in a prison and then it's revealed that you're on an oil Derek or something. Right. When did face off come out to this person? 97. This is 96. Face off, bit this rhyme. Face off did bite this rhyme. This is a machine of Gershon in this episode though.
Starting point is 01:00:25 Which bit of a missed opportunity not to have Gershon in here. Yeah. Yeah, like I mentioned on the last episode, this is one that I always expect. Like I expect this premise when I do a rewatch of TNG. Yeah. And I think that what I get it crossed over with in my mind
Starting point is 01:00:44 is that episode where Picard is in the cell with the like super aggressive guy and the super passive is guy and the bullion starfleet lady and they're eating hockey pucks and like I guess there's like some crossover between this premise and that but I I really like this episode. I think it's just a fun full-ageer premise and I had a great time watching it. You permit me to be Benjamin R. Harrison for a second. It makes me sad that prisons of the future are still not interested in rehabilitation. Yeah. Why can't the Aceritarians engage in a more restorative form of justice? Yeah, they're a bunch of fucking assholes.
Starting point is 01:01:28 Fuck them. Tell you what, Chris Pine's dad plays a great asshole in this episode. Yeah, just a raging red asshole. Yeah, one of the greats. Well, Ben, one place where it's rare to encounter a raging red asshole is the priority one message inbox. You want to go see what we got waiting for us in there? Let's do it Adam. Priority one message from Starfleet coming in on Secured Channel.
Starting point is 01:01:59 Need a supplement on it. supplement on it. supplement. Yeah it's extra. The interest alone could be enough to buy this ship. Ben, our first priority one message is from Bowie and her mom. Message is to the last two snuck and the better future to come. The message goes like this, Barry P.Won's from False Profits,
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Starting point is 01:03:00 Well, shout out to Mr. Blue for recommending our podcast, I think. OG from 2016, got 2016, was a long time ago. A long time ago, but that's when this all started if you're a friend of DeSoto from 2016 we see you yeah, just like we see Bowie and her mom you've been through a lot with us Yeah, yeah, and you're gonna I mean if you stick around we'll see you through the rest of whatever bullshit's coming Our next priority one message is also a personal nature Nature and it's from Hillary and it's to Adam and Ben You know what my favorite reality show is the natural I had an entire mess down an entire apple cider and I'm halfway through my Topo Chico exotic pineapple flavored hard seltzer. Is it good? Is that Topo good? I haven't had one of those.
Starting point is 01:03:58 I got this in a variety pack with other flavors and I would say like 60% of the flavors were bad. Oh no. So I had those first and saved the ones that I liked for last. Yeah, that's a good strategy. But yeah this is my last one. I like the pineapple ones. Here's a lot of reasons. Here's Hillary's message to you and me Adam. I started your pod right before COVID and it kept me sane as I finished school to become a therapist and kept a toddler alive with my imzadi. Throwing scarves your way for the much needed laughs.
Starting point is 01:04:37 Question and apologies if you answered this earlier. Where do you think is the best non-holiday onboard location for chill hangs in Star Trek Cannon? God, I don't know if this is just hack or easier or whatever, but like 10 forward when I think of a place for chill hangs. Yeah. And it's not a holidayk. I think there's a reason that Star Trek Picard started that series there. It is so familiar and so safe feeling and so comfortable. It's where my mind starts for the answer to that question. I don't I don't know even what my second choice would be. What about you? I'm gonna just for
Starting point is 01:05:16 variety's sake. I'm gonna go to one that is also close at a hand but slightly left of center. The the Ensens bunk area on the Excelsior in Star Trek 6 that we got to go see in the episode where Tuvac goes back to his memories of his of his yut. That was great. We've gotten to know like what the Ensens bunk area is like a little bit in lower decks via the series and seeing like two vach also having had that experience the the like dormitory style like everybody sleeps in one room energy I mean it just seems like fun as hell like you get to know your bunk mates really well I'm a fucking introvert and I have nostalgia for that, you know. Yeah, you're right. That's a good choice.
Starting point is 01:06:09 So, uh, yeah, there's some chill hangs available. I mean, like, I think anything not in Starfleet is actually the chillest hang in the Star Trek universe, like the people that don't go risk their lives. Another point that Lower Decks has made. Yeah, like everybody else has easier, more relaxed lives, but uh... Right. But yeah, that's uh... What's my answer?
Starting point is 01:06:34 Good answer. If you've got a question like that to ask us, go to Maximumfund.org slash Jumbo Tron, ask that kind of question. Yeah. You might get a very thoughtful response Yeah, from a couple of drunk idiots Hey, Ben What's that? Did you find yourself a drunk Shimoda?
Starting point is 01:06:59 Brother, it's me today Yeah, feeling it I think we both are But uh, I mean, we'll never have another opportunity to give it to Beans Maraco, will we? We really won't. I mean, Beans Maraco on-screen for all of 10 seconds. But he really makes a racket with those 10 seconds, huh? He makes a racket with those 10 seconds, huh? He makes a racket with those 10 seconds, and gets a like opening credit's name check. Do you like that? I mean, look, it's not great.
Starting point is 01:07:33 Anytime you have to share a screen credit wise with a bunch of other people, not ideal. I think he shares with two others. But where does your eye fall, Ben? Fall's on Beans Morocco, is a name. I don't even remember the other two credits on screen at the same time. Yeah. And that's the effect that a Beans Morocco has.
Starting point is 01:07:50 That is why you make your nom to care Beans Morocco. It's one of the great, greatest gen names. It really is. Right up there with Ron Canada. It's right up there with Biff Yeager. The OGEist of of the OG names. How about you? Did you have a drunk shimata?
Starting point is 01:08:12 Oh yeah, I mean I'm gonna put my chips on top of yours. It's my rocker. Great. Easy, done. Done, done and dusted. Objection noted, we'll do this without a bullet. What if you do it? If you do it? Do it.
Starting point is 01:08:26 Alright, Ben. I mean, this is going to disappoint some people. We do have an episode coming up next. In the series. It's Star Trek Voyager Season 3 episode 4. What is its title and what is it about, Ben? It's called the Swarm and the cap is as follows. While the crew battles a swarm of alien ships,
Starting point is 01:08:45 KESS races to prevent the doctor's memory circuits from deteriorating. Well, there's a chance we watch this in a weird way. The only way we're gonna know that is by going to Gachda Bizslash Game and the Game of Buttholes the will of the caretaker. Yeah. I'm looking at our game piece throbbing on top of Quark's face on square 18. Yeah. Yeah. Couple squares ahead. We got something
Starting point is 01:09:14 bad. His eyes uncovered the Tamarion style episode that friends of DeSoto love to hate. Yeah, they do not care for. And it's up to me. It's up to you, man. You got to roll that bone. You're required to learn as you play. Roll. Alright, I've got the die in my hand. It's up to me to avoid that square. And avoid it I have by rolling a one.
Starting point is 01:09:41 Okay. Chula! Did I win? Harvey. We're on square 19. We're still in the second row. Where we've been for years now. For a really long time.
Starting point is 01:09:52 This is, we've broken the streak of drinking episodes. We're back to a semi sober rep. Normal amount of sobriety. That's the way we'll bring you the next episode. I'm looking forward to it personally. I might still take a broughed anyway. Yeah We're the vitamins. It's just good fights. Yeah Wow, well thanks to everyone who tuned in. Thanks to everyone who supports us at MaximumBund.org slash join
Starting point is 01:10:16 Thanks to the card daddy Bill Tilly who runs the act greatest trick accounts on Instagram and Twitter Thanks to Philippe Sobriero Craig Anderson and Andrew Wang Hoyer for making that game greatest trek accounts on Instagram and Twitter. Thanks to Philippe Sobriero, Craig Anderson and Andrew Wang Hoyer for making that game. It will continue to play. Yeah, we do continue to play it. I think there's a new square impending on the game of Buttholes, the will of the caretaker.
Starting point is 01:10:41 So that's coming. We got to thank Adam Regusia, who made our original music for the program and dark material, who made the Picard song, upon which all of that was based. We got to thank the friends of Disoto, who have created amazing communities all across the internet on Facebook, Reddit, Discord, at drunkshmoda.com and Twitter using the hashtag greatestgen. Thanks for being cool people who are cool to each other and treat each other with decency and respect.
Starting point is 01:11:14 Yeah, there's a secret Shemoda gift exchange that may or may not be over at this point, but it's a yearly bit of holiday cheer that the friends of DeSoto do with and for each other. That's just great. Some friends of DeSoto have made a FOD community cookbook. It's writers reached out to us a while back to contribute some recipes. We've done that. Yeah, all proceeds of this book are getting donated to the hunger project, which is a global charity. Oh yeah, yeah, this is great, this book. And there's like, they did a really great job of like making sure that the recipes are really international, all
Starting point is 01:11:55 kinds of different, we scenes represented, and it's a really, it's a really delightful thing. And we made a bitly, it's bit.ly slash exo-cook. To get that cookbook. Yeah, so it may not be too late to get that in time for the major December holidays, but get it for yourself. You've got to get it for as a gift. Get it for yourself and start making some fun food. Be selfish for once in your life, you know?
Starting point is 01:12:24 Yeah. Do something for you. Well, Adam, I think with that we should probably get out of here and we'll be back next week with another great episode of Star Trek Voyager, an episode of the greatest generation Voyager that is wearing some pretty old-timey costumes Give some reason. Oh, you don't say no I love an old time a costume I'm gonna be you. I'm gonna be you. I'm gonna be you. I'm gonna be you. I'm gonna be you. I'm gonna be you. I'm gonna be you. I'm gonna be you. I'm gonna be you.
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