The Greatest Generation - Six-Night Rule (ENT S3E13)

Episode Date: August 4, 2025

When Shran rescues the Entrepreneur from a foamy green anomaly, his crew comes aboard to help with repairs while another Xindi weapon test gets underway. But after a disappointing result for Degra and... a double-cross by the Andorians, Captain Archer wins the game of chicken and gets a mysterious message from a mission sympathizer. Which character can any freelancer sympathize with? When is it hard to balance the ledger? What’s next for the Ice Desk? It’s the episode that has a new favorite Enterprise alien.Support the production of The Greatest GenerationGet a thing at podshop.biz!Sign up for our mailing list!Follow The Game of Buttholes: The Will of the Riker - Quantum LeapThe Greatest Generation is produced by Wynde PriddySocial media is managed by Rob Adler and Bill TilleyMusic by Adam Ragusea & Dark MateriaFriends of DeSoto for: Labor | Democracy | JusticeDiscuss the show using the hashtag #GreatestGen and find us on social media:YouTube | Facebook | X | Instagram | TikTok | Mastodon | Bluesky | ThreadsAnd check out these online communities run by FODs: Reddit | USS Hood Discord | Facebook group | Wikia | FriendsOfDeSoto.social

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Starting point is 00:00:00 This week Ben and I are in Las Vegas at STLV. Which reminds me, can someone bring me a beverage to the booth? Two beverages to the Greatest Gen booth please. Listen, convention season isn't over, not by a long shot. That's because Creation Entertainment has several amazing Star Trek conventions that are coming right up. In Orlando, August 23rd and 24th, New Jersey, September 6th and 7th, and Chicago, November 22nd and 23rd. No matter what show or era of Star Trek you're into, Creation does an amazing job bringing together so many stars of Star Trek. And that means while you're partying with tons of other Star Trek fans, you can meet Star Trek stars like William Shatner, Kate Mulgrew, Anson Mount, Jerry Ryan, and so many others. So
Starting point is 00:00:49 check out their website at creationent.com to see all the talented folks that will be appearing at these events. So get your tickets right now at creationent.com and just for FODs, use the promo code GREATEST to get 20% off all admission passes. That's one day or all days for Orlando, New Jersey, and Chicago. for me. Welcome to the Greatest Generation. It's a Star Trek podcast by a couple of guys just a little bit embarrassed about having a Star Trek podcast. I'm Adam Pranica. I'm Ben Harrison.
Starting point is 00:01:38 This is the Monday of STLV. Whoa! And we're recording this. This is not the Monday of Prannica Banna. No. That's next Monday. Yeah. Okay.
Starting point is 00:01:51 I mean, if you're listening to this episode on the day it comes out, this could be my last week of life. This is a prolonged exposure to the temptations of Vegas that Adam Pranica has not accustomed to himself too. I've set up barriers that have served me very well up until this point. Barriers that most of my friends know about, friends that have reached out since we started making it clear that we're going to be at STLV for as long as we are. People on the side going, Hey, I heard about
Starting point is 00:02:25 what is now a six night rule. If you want to transfer your power of attorney, I might be a good candidate for that. I'm getting that kind of solicitation. That's smart. You could transfer it to me. I'm not going to do anything. Oh, I know you wouldn't do anything with that.
Starting point is 00:02:42 Ben, I love you, dude, but you'd be the last person I'd give a power of attorney to. I, people need to be able to reach you in an emergency situation. Sure. Yeah. But it may surprise you, you'd be my fourth person to whom that has been granted. What? Yeah.
Starting point is 00:02:58 I'm going to need you to slide the contact information of those people to me. So I can, I think I need to tell them some things. About how much I can be trusted with six days in Vegas, for example. What are you most worried about? Like, let's set some expectations. Cause Vegas is a land of temptation, but it's also temptations that you're not crazy about.
Starting point is 00:03:25 Like you're, you, you love a gamble, but you don't have a gambling problem. And I've seen you drink and enjoy yourself greatly, but you don't have a drinking problem. No. You whore around a lot, but I've never seen you take one of those little slips of paper from a guy that's flicking it at you on the strip. I think you're close to accurate on all of those points. Yeah, I'm not afraid of the gamble and I'm not afraid of the consumption.
Starting point is 00:03:52 I think what I'm afraid of most, like the number one with a bullet, like I don't wanna get sick. Being in Vegas that many days, like meeting that many people, we've run into this on tour. When we'd gone out on tour before and we've met hundreds of people many days in a row,
Starting point is 00:04:10 like even an Adam Pranica will come down with something. Like as sturdy as my defenses are. You hear about Concord all the time by the folks that do conventions as a life. And I don't want that. Yeah. When I used to work at Engadget, like when we would come home from CES, which is a absolutely massive convention in Vegas, like, you know,
Starting point is 00:04:35 three quarters of the team would come home with some horrific pathogen infecting them them just inevitably. And I think we may need to get like a 55 gallon drum of Purell to keep in our booth. Except we can't do that because we heard that people steal your Purell. Like what kind of people are these, these convention folks? If it's a 55 gallon drum, they're like, it's too cumbersome, you know?
Starting point is 00:05:04 Yeah. Should we get like a reasonable size Purell If it's a 55 gallon drum, it's too cumbersome. Should we get a reasonable size Purell but put a pretty intense bike lock on it? I like this idea. The Pee-Wee's Big Adventure Bike Lock. Yeah, nobody could get that except it didn't work for Pee-Wee. It's mainly just two things I'm worried about. It's the getting sick and it's the going broke. And I don't mean in a gambling way.
Starting point is 00:05:31 I just mean like this is one of those things where as a business, we got to front a bunch of money to do travel, hotel and merch. And hopefully we sell the merch to break us even. Like that's the bottom line. Yeah. I mean, it's not a, nothing we do has ever been really profit driven. Right.
Starting point is 00:05:48 So it'd be nice to break even on this. That'd be good. That would be good. Also, maybe third, not insignificant is like, I don't want to disappoint anyone out there with the, like, a lot of our folks are going to be there, and a lot of them are gonna wanna hang out, and it's like, I'm just one man. With one plan. Tin man.
Starting point is 00:06:12 Like, if I'm invited to dinner, I'm gonna go to that dinner, but that means not going to dinner with someone else. Like, that's how hurt feelings happen, I don't like that. Yeah, well, I think that on that point, it's a marathon, not a sprint, and also, like, there are only so many port-a-potties along the marathon route, and we can only... Listen to this role reversal.
Starting point is 00:06:34 I'm talking about disappointing people that I shouldn't have to worry about disappointing, and you're talking me off of that ledge, like, so many times I've tried to do for you. We can do this, man. We've done tour. We got each other's backs on the reminding to wash hands after we've shaken dozens and dozens of hands
Starting point is 00:06:54 in the meet and greet line. Yeah, we're so good at that. We've covered for each other when we had to leave stage to go take a shit. We're going to be fine. You know, that'll happen at a booth. Yeah. Anytime you see just one of us at the booth,
Starting point is 00:07:07 you know what's happening with the other person. Yeah, yeah. My son has a little like unfoldable toilet that has like a plastic bag liner that you can just deploy anywhere. Maybe we should bring one of those for the booth so we don't have to leave for as long. Vegas Casino Hotel Toilet, one of the great toilets, I feel like.
Starting point is 00:07:29 It's a top toilet. I think we're doing fine on toilets in Vegas, unless something unspeakable has happened to the Rio. Something unspeakable-er, I should say, given the general reputation of the Rio. Have you been on your Vegas Reddit? Have you heard tell of what the situation is there? Because it seemed like two years ago, the Rio was on life support and we weren't sure if it was going to make it.
Starting point is 00:07:54 And then last year it was like, oh, new food court with a couple of actually pretty solid options. Are we thinking Rio is on the rebound or was that like a death bounce on the way to the grave? I think we should expect to see improvements at the Rio. I've read about them. I don't think the full refurbishment is complete, but I know they continue to tinker and make things better. That's good. That's good. What do any predictions about the purple zebra? Oh boy, I
Starting point is 00:08:27 Went to for the fourth of July my wife and I went to Palm Springs and went to a tiki restaurant that served Maitai inside a zebra vessel that wasn't just the leg it was like the whole zebra the whole zeb yeah, and The server was like hey, this is this a really great glass, isn't it? Me and my wife were like, oh yeah, this is one of the greats, really cool. What's the story with this? He's like, the story? We have two of these left and we bought 50 because everyone's stealing them.
Starting point is 00:08:57 Oh. And we were aghast. Like, people are the worst. Do you know how hard it is to run a fucking bar and restaurant without people stealing the glassware? I was expecting you to say that that was available for an upcharge as a take home, but no. God damn. Idiots ruined it for everyone.
Starting point is 00:09:17 Yeah, you can't take that home unless you're stealing it. Ugh. Brutal, right? Anyway, which is all to say, I was tangential to a zebra drink not that long ago. I hope to have one again in Vegas. I hope to have one too. I've gotten a lot of like social media messages, like looking forward to seeing you guys in Vegas
Starting point is 00:09:36 and going to the convention for the first time. It's that and hoofs that I'm looking forward to the most. And I'm like, I don't know what to say, man. Like the hoofs might not happen, you know? Ben's like, I really hope not to disappoint you twice. I mean, I know that I'm going to disappoint him one time. I mean, but that's what the hoof is for, to soften the blow.
Starting point is 00:09:59 And if the hoof isn't there, what do you got? If the hoof's not there, brutal. You're drinking disappointment. Yeah. That's what you're doing. Well, it's going to be a bit of a crucible for us this year, Adam. We're doing the convention in a way we never have before. You might call it a proving ground.
Starting point is 00:10:15 You might. I do, actually. Just like the name of today's episode of Star Trek Enterprise, let's get into it, Ben. It's season three, episode 13, Proving Ground. Got free speech and guitars. We get such a detailed last time on. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:10:39 So much more detailed than we've become accustomed to. Let me ask you a question about this because it's so long and detailed. Do you think you're on a production side knowing this? You can't know this, right? Like in order to get your footage and make your day for the assembly, like this is all being decided in the edit,
Starting point is 00:11:00 how much you're gonna cut off to allow for a last time on, right? That's interesting because yeah, they're chewing up precious minutes that would otherwise be given to... Like, in the streaming era, this doesn't matter. Like, you could have a 10-minute last time on and still have 45 to 55 minutes of episode. You think Jeffrey Combs, like, sits down to watch the episode?
Starting point is 00:11:26 Like to review it QA style? He sees this giant preamble and he's like, fuck, fuck! That could have been Shran! So much more Shran! I'm not in this at all? Are you f- How about show some of the other timeless roles I've portrayed on Star Trek just to remind people what a fucking legend I am. Get some Brunt in there.
Starting point is 00:11:46 Get some wayoon in there. That would be so great. Yeah, more Jeffrey Combs. Just Jeffrey Combs highlight reel for three minutes and then we're in the episode. Somebody that does those like fun YouTube re-edits do that. Like last time on Star Trek and just show a bunch of times Jeffrey Combs was on Star Trek. Right now there is a Jeffrey Combs sitting at home uncelebrated for the moment. As you watch all these scenes you can make a difference in Jeffrey Combs's level of happiness.
Starting point is 00:12:20 I rode on an elevator with him one time at a SF sketch fest I'm not I can't ask the follow-up question. I'm I'm gonna ask the follow-up question What did you talk about Ben? Left him alone Hey, can I recreate the scene? Oh sure okay? So did you get on the elevator and Jeffrey Cohn was already on it? No, we were waiting in the elevator lobby together at the same time for quite a while. Okay So so this is fine for an audio medium. You're not gonna see very much visually if you're watching the stream right now. Okay, so
Starting point is 00:12:55 atmospheric elevator sound Here's Ben and Jeffrey comes walking into the elevator Could you hit seven please and scene yeah yeah and to be clear that's Jeffrey comes asking me to hit seven right the other way around yeah no yeah you would never no making Jeffrey combs do work for me. Come on. Anyways, yeah, we get a lot of catch up on chemosite and the weapon and the Zindi council of men of all races. Interesting that it's all men in that Zindi council.
Starting point is 00:13:39 No one of the various species that arose on the Zindi home world has done much in the way of equality of the sexes. Boy, that train came a little late. Yeah. I was expecting that observation a little earlier. I've been drunk. Let's get to the cold open.
Starting point is 00:14:02 We got Shran being called to the bridge of his ship, his blue ship. Was he drinking on the job or was that water? I was wondering about that. It's hard to know what is alcohol and what isn't in an Andorian context, you know? Because in an Earth context, you would never have a decanter full of water. You'd have a carafe, but that's clearly whatever the Andorian equivalent of baccarat is. Sure.
Starting point is 00:14:30 The name is unpronounceable. It's hypnotic, and then the camera closes in, like, very close in a different bottle. Hypnotic N.A. Oh, that's nice. And then crystal hypnotic. Yeah. I was like, what's the point of crystal hypnotic? That's taking away everything that's then crystal hypnotic. Yeah. It's like, what's the point of crystal hypnotic? That's taking away everything that's fun about hypnotic.
Starting point is 00:14:50 Shran should probably start drinking. He gets some bad news. They lost track of the ship they're looking for. And what's striking about Shran's crew is that in this case, just like that ice desk episode, he's got a lady absolutely smashing his nuts on his decisions that she does not agree with. We've been searching for weeks. And we'll continue searching until we've accomplished our mission.
Starting point is 00:15:12 Or until we're destroyed. Yeah, she doesn't want to keep doing this, but they have their orders and that we have our orders imperative winds up being a bigger deal in this episode than I think you might realize at first blush. I love the spirit of the way the scene ends though, because like, yeah, the expanse is dangerous. Hell no, I'm not afraid of it. If the fucking pinkskins can navigate this place, so can we, right?
Starting point is 00:15:38 There's so much better than them. That sturdies their resolve. Yeah. How about like people from Earth that don't have pink skin? Do you think that they are extra insulted by this Andorian epithet? This is like the Crayola scandal of a crayon being called flesh. This is flesh all over again. Yeah, yeah. The Andorians' research on what racial slurs to call humans was based entirely on what
Starting point is 00:16:06 color band-aids are. We cut over to the Zindi council. Degre is pretty annoyed that some of the guys that he called into this thing aren't here yet because he's got urgent info. And they're like, cool, great, weapons ready. We can just go ahead and destroy earth. He's like, no, let's not get over our skis. It's just the prototype.
Starting point is 00:16:28 Another prototype, Degra. How many fucking iterations does this design need? Look, I understand the goal being to create a weapon that destroys earth that prevents the Zindi from being exterminated. That is a great reward at the end of this. It's a good goal that we can all get behind. But when I try to understand Degra's deal, he is putting up with so much shit.
Starting point is 00:16:54 Enough shit to where I would probably assume that there is a percentage, a growing percentage inside Degra that's like, it is not worth this. It is not worth the shit I'm having to eat by these fucking Zindi. Yeah. Did Degra agree to some like fucked up contract terms
Starting point is 00:17:11 where he only gets 10% on signing and then the rest is like on delivery or something like that? I know we shouldn't ever say poor Degra, but I'm starting to feel sorry for Degra. Like I wish I could remember if he was nominated to this position or if he volunteered, because this seems like a pretty shit deal for Degra.
Starting point is 00:17:33 It's a bad deal for Degra. I think as freelancers, we can all sympathize with Degra. Yeah, Degra is producing a Zendi super weapon underscore final and they're wanting another cut. God fucking damn it. And it's like, you know, and as freelancers, I've not always had the luxury of looking into the like ethical purity of the companies I work with.
Starting point is 00:17:57 It's why we made so many videos for Raytheon. Right. So many Raytheon videos. Listen, I've spent a lot of time in undisclosed locations making videos about how great it is to be able to rain hellfire on the enemies of something. Tell you what, man, no one parties like a Raytheon company retreat. Tell you that much. They get the best comics, the most boos.
Starting point is 00:18:21 Mm, yeah. Amazing. I mean, comics being the hired entertainment that cost the least on one of those weekends. Oh, yeah. Yeah. I hope nobody believes that we have actually done that. Let them if they believe that.
Starting point is 00:18:38 Whatever. Come party at Prana Cabana and see how much it's like a Raytheon party. It's testing time for this prototype because the real weapon isn't ready yet. They got it. They got a Raytheon banner just for the Prana Cabana this year.
Starting point is 00:18:53 You fucking hate Prana Cabana. You're just trying to destroy it with these ideas. Stop. I think it'd be fun. Prana Cabana is going to live. We moved Prana Cabana to Mondays because there are a bunch of other people that stay after the con and do cabanas. And so we're there in the conversation with those people.
Starting point is 00:19:13 Last year, there was a guy that came up to me and was like, I invented this. And I was like, cool. I invented this and he holds out like both of his hands are shaped like a bowl and just filled with mixed pills. Why are these pills wet? I'm just saying it would be fun and on brand for us to have a weird, competitive relationship with the previous cabana having organizations and groups. If we make it to Monday and the Prana Cabana, cut to you and me just asleep in the cabana.
Starting point is 00:19:53 Just being weekend at Bernie's. It's just Bernie! By the FODs who have come to see us and party together. Brie Belke is like trying to work our arms and legs and Anne-Marie is like, you know, I'm a physician and I don't think I can do anything for them. Yeah, you said it. At this point, Degra's big project is a month away from the real thing getting ready to fire.
Starting point is 00:20:26 And that's what we know before we cut over to the Enterprise and the Command Center, where Hoshi has told Archer and T'Pol that they figured out where the Zindi weapon is thanks to the Khima site that got planted during that Planet of the Apes episode not that long ago. And also, you remember all their files getting deleted? They've been able to put together like 30% of those lost files. There is no mention of there being a backup hard drive or a secondary backup,
Starting point is 00:20:56 the way any video professional would have in a moment like this. These guys fully like paid somebody $100 to try to resurrect the CF card after they found out It got corrupted the way everyone has Everybody's done it. Yeah, 30% is good. It is that context. Yeah, you could do something with 30% Yeah, like I'm constantly telling my wife this Issue is with that 30%, they've charted where they are
Starting point is 00:21:27 to where the chemo site that they've been tracking is, and there's a whole bunch of anomalies in between them and it, and it's a don't have time to go around it, we're gonna have to go through it kind of situation. Alert the crew, it's gonna get rough. Yeah. So they start flying through these things and the reports from the science station are pretty intense that this field of anomalies
Starting point is 00:21:52 is kind of like foaming and frothing and anomalies are interacting with each other and expanding in ways that they haven't encountered yet. So they are in big trouble way before they can really wrap their minds around that. And one of these anomalies really greens the shit out of the ship. It looks like the Baryon sweep in a lot of ways, where it kind of like passes through a bunch of rooms and knocks guys off ladders, lots of sparks flying, lots of ripples. It's notable how burbly it is, right? Every time they go through an anomaly, there's burbles. And this green sweep, like the comp to the baryon sweep
Starting point is 00:22:34 is spot on, except the baryon sweep is mechanical moving and this one's very burbly. It's foamy. Yeah. And it kind of feels like they're all the way inside the anomaly by the time the bangers very suddenly abate. And it is announced that somebody has dropped a tractor on them and pulled them out of it.
Starting point is 00:23:00 Yeah. Who could it be? It's Sran. Captain Archer. Look at the trouble you've gotten your pink skin into this time. Are we happy to see Shran? I think we are. Pretty happy to see Shran.
Starting point is 00:23:16 Very funny opening shot. I talked about this last week when we were looking at the thumbnail for the episode being the back of Archer's head with Shran Antenny up on top. It is unmotivated. It is just a camera move for the lulz, which I love. Like, do that all the time. There is a number of playful antenna moments this episode that if all you're paying attention to are the antenna,
Starting point is 00:23:44 you'd be very satisfied with this episode that if all you're paying attention to are the antenna, you'd be very satisfied with this episode. Sure. Like, I think that the antenna on this show are so impressive, the fact that they are, like, remote puppeted, and, like, they don't do that on Star Trek Discovery with the Andorians on that show. There's a version of articulation that feels very servo-driven in a way that you can detect, like, oh, there's five points of articulation on the very servo driven in a way that you can detect like, oh, there's five points of articulation on the antenna and look at it move in a way that would suggest a
Starting point is 00:24:10 guy with a joystick is like kind of stirring the stick. But these things seem so lifelike in their moves and I can't tell how many parts of articulation they have. They're really great. The puppeteering is so considered also, like when they are expressing emotion. Like I was thinking in a couple of these scenes, like Shran would be awesome to play poker with, because like it doesn't seem like he has a lot of control over what the antenna are doing, but they really express feeling. That's what I was going to ask. They betray the face below right like these are like the the tails on a dog Mm-hmm
Starting point is 00:24:50 The antenna don't lie and Dorian Tyra Banks smiles only with the antenna. It's true. Yeah, that's well put Shran comes over to Enterprise for a visit and to gloat Because it's fun to be the savior, right? It rules. Kind of a lot of questions from Archer though, for Shran's taste. I mean, why, why are you getting all in my business? I was the one that rescued you. Why can't you just be grateful?
Starting point is 00:25:16 Yeah. The Imperial Guard have taken an interest in the plight of the earth, according to Shran. Real shame that nobody else rode to your defense. I mean, I know we're like months late in doing so, but the Vulcans didn't do that. And there's some suspicion about how much he knows about the attack on Florida and how many people it got,
Starting point is 00:25:42 but he is really selling this as an act of pure altruism. Like, we're just here to help, man. It's clear there is a kind of ally or friendship vacuum here. Like, absent the Vulcans being on the scene for the humans, maybe the Andorians can slide in while the seat's still warm, you know? Yeah. And the help doesn't stop at just tractoring them out.
Starting point is 00:26:04 Like, Reed brings up how dead all of their weapon systems are, Yeah. And the help doesn't stop at just tractoring them out. Like, Reed brings up how dead all of their weapon systems are, and an Andorian tactical officer is offered to help. I mean, this is like Starfleet on the receiving end of something that they go around offering all the time. It's weird to get it in the other direction, huh? Yeah. Yeah. It's weird to get it in the other direction, huh? Yeah, yeah. It's nice.
Starting point is 00:26:26 Feels good. In engineering, Archer gets a summary of all the damage to their defensive systems that need repairing. And the short version is, they're fucked. But one of Shran's tactical crew people might be useful, right? There's only gentle pushback here by Reed in the idea that he would accept this kind of help. But ultimately he has to acquiesce. To Paul, in a very North Korean way, is like, we should have
Starting point is 00:26:59 apparatchiks follow these guys around and keep an eye on what they're pointing their cameras at. Because there is some talk of like, well, if they're up in the weapon systems guts, they're going to be getting like vital NATO secrets and battle plans and things. Yeah. It's like someone with a machine gun looking up what a slingshot schematic is. So, you know, like, cool, you don't love that they have access to all of your information, but when that information isn't really useful to them, it kind of makes some sense. Topala has another interesting idea here, which is like, they, and by they I mean the Vulcans, do not get along with the Andorians. And Archer's response is, that has nothing to do with me, slash, the humans.
Starting point is 00:27:43 Like we've got our own thing with the Andorians, totally separate. It's an interesting conversation because like the conversation turns on the issue of trust and the Vulcans having found that the Andorians just aren't plain dealers. Like when we met them, it seemed cool and and then it wasn't, because we kept catching them, like, doing shit that was not what we agreed upon, but was in their own interest. And we just don't feel like they, as a species, are really like that. But Archer is like, broad sweeping racial characterizations aside,
Starting point is 00:28:22 I know Shran, and Shran is cool. I think I can trust that guy. It's a weird bit of stereotyping going in opposite directions. characterizations aside, I know Shran and Shran is cool. I think I can trust that guy. It's a weird bit of stereotyping going in opposite directions, like what you're saying. T'Pol going, Andorians cannot be trusted. And Archer being like, well yeah, I mean, look, T'Pol, I can be just as racist as you are.
Starting point is 00:28:40 I don't trust Andorians either. But one of my best friends is Andorian. Ergo... We're gonna go along with one of them for this mission. Yeah. Speaking of going along with an Andorian, Lieutenant Reed meets Lieutenant Talis. She's the officer that's gonna be working with him. She stomps his nuts just as enthusiastically
Starting point is 00:29:04 as she stomps Shran's nuts because she finds Reed in the mess hall and not frantically working to get Wepps back online. If you've got a tactical officer, you definitely want them to be able to wing a shot at a pair of nuts from very far away. Oh yeah. She is doling out these nut shots in rapid succession here. What an entrance. And you are? Lieutenant Talis of the Imperial Warship Kumari.
Starting point is 00:29:30 I've been ordered to assist you. Indeed. You must be disappointed in you. Yeah, Lieutenant Talis does not miss. No. No, neither does Trip miss while eating a hoagie and crinkle chips. I could not help but notice the wavy lays on his plate.
Starting point is 00:29:55 This is how you can tell that it's an ideal future. I love having the option of a wavy chip. It looks really good, looks really crunchy. Trip looks happy. Trip may be the happiest because he doesn't have to work with this lady. Like, sure, he takes an incidental nut shot just for being next to Reed, but he's like, Lordy, I'm gonna go enjoy my sandwich over there while Reed and Lieutenant Talis go do their work. Forgive me if I don't roll up my sleeves and get to work around y'all, and I ain't
Starting point is 00:30:25 talking about my arm nipples. You're never gonna let that go, are you? If we change the words, then it's fair use all day long. It's also meal time for Shran and Archer over in the Captain's mess, but Shran is more interested in drinking and Dorian ale. And he's not going to take no for an answer. Archer's doing that thing like, I got an early morning Shran.
Starting point is 00:30:50 You know how it is when you're the captain. Yeah. Shran is like, you got, you got underlings to do all that shit for you. I was also interested in the fact that it's called ale, but like they shoot it, you know? Like, like they're taking big gulp-os of it. They're not like drinking it like a a glass of beer Sure. Yeah, this feels bigger than a shot though, doesn't it? Yeah, it's like a half pilsner glass
Starting point is 00:31:14 It is yeah, it's like a schooner. Yeah What do they call it in in in like England when you go into a pub and get a little beer? It's whatever that is. Is that a schooner? Maybe. I thought a schooner was a sailboat where the the front mast is taller than the back mast or something like that. Oh, geez. I feel like, oh, man, the sailing friends of De Soto just mass unsubscribe.
Starting point is 00:31:39 Hey, leave the answer to this trivia question in a review. You leave of the show. Yeah, we want to know what is a schooner, both in the sailboat sense and in the beer glass sense. There you go. And was it a schooner in this scene? Five stars. Archer and Sran toast the victory ahead, the obvious victory ahead for both of them. This is going to be great. After they toast, Archer asks Sran... Why he's being so helpful and cool all the time?
Starting point is 00:32:10 Why are you acting so not messed up towards me? And Sran explains that he still feels in debt to him for that whole secret Vulcan-based hustle that they got into. I thought that was evened out. I did too, but... I was shocked to find that S Tran still feels like he owes. I think that it's hard to, like, balance the ledger when it's something as abstract as Secret Vulcan based hustle.
Starting point is 00:32:33 Yeah. Yeah. But needless to say, Tran wants to convince Archer. I think it's important to say. Doesn't seem like he actually believes this later on in the episode, but wants to convince Archer that he believes it's important to say, doesn't seem like he actually believes this later on in the episode, but wants to convince Archer that he believes that there's an unpaid debt here. And also like a potential opportunity for a more formalized alliance between the Andorians and the humans, which sounds like a good deal because maybe the Andorians wouldn't be putting the governors on everything the way the Vulcans have been.
Starting point is 00:33:06 Fair, yeah. Over in engineering, it struck me how long it's been since we've seen Triptucker and T'Pol together, since the whole clone incident. I thought you might be avoiding me. She's there wanting an update on the repairs, and he thought it was going to be a few more days until they could get warp power back. No, the Andorians are there and they're going to cut that timeline in half. If not by more. He says 12 hours to completion.
Starting point is 00:33:34 But all of the repairs are not going as evenly and smoothly. Reed is kind of treating Talos like an unpaid intern, like making her do a lot of photocopies and stuff while he's in the guts of their weapon systems doing the hard stuff. This also felt a little gendered too, right? In a dad working under the hood of a pickup truck asking for socket wrenches from the little kid. Yeah. Maybe gendered isn't the right word, but there is some infantilization happening here. You can speak to us normally. Which is ironic because when she flips the script on him,
Starting point is 00:34:12 she's like, I don't want your stupid secrets. My secrets are way better. Like your secrets suck. She is like the Hulk of ball smashing. Like she absolutely turns the tables on Reed here. Like, ugh. Yeah. Reed's balls are hamburger at this point. Yeah, but let's just say that Suzy Plaxton walked so Molly Brink could run. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:34:38 As far as an Andorian lady smashing nuts. I'm kind of getting inspired to write some slash fiction about the three of them. The Terra character, the Shran character, and the Talos. Get them all around an ice desk and see what happens. Mm-hmm. Oh yeah, there's like ice high heel shoes grinding into ice nuts. Oh yeah, you know there is. Reed is so fucking happy for Talos to leave until Talos is like, hey, don't electrocute yourself while I leave. He's like, oh, oh, why is that?
Starting point is 00:35:13 She's like, because you, you hooked up the jumper cables wrong, dipshit. And this earns the respect of Reed in this moment because she notices something that he did not. It's also just like a very funny commentary on Starfleet in general. Like I feel like they're always like, okay, let's turn it on, see if it works. And then like explosion of sparks. You are so right about that. See if it works is the Starfleet way. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:35:40 That's why I love them so much. Just like me. So Archer's log is next. and it tells us that things are good. They're avoiding anomalies, they're back underway inside the expanse and on their way to the original target. But the problem is their sensors can't pick up very much and Shran noticing this, volunteers his own sensor data which is transferred immediately to enterprise.
Starting point is 00:36:07 Amazing that their systems can talk that well, right? I know. It's just like shunted over and it's there. They're looking at like blurry, long range sensor data of this system. The file name ends in like dot and, and they just like highlight the and and switch it to what would be the appendage for Starfleet. STR, STF. Yeah, or is it like one of those like post OS X appendages
Starting point is 00:36:35 where it's like STFLT or something like that? Fuck the hoops Adobe makes us jump through constantly, but like it's branded content for Adobe, like they're both PDFs and strands. Like see how easy it is? We both have completely different operating systems and we both can work with PDFs. This document looks the same on both of our screens. It's amazing. We don't even have the same set of fonts installed on our computers and yet. It means that what they both can watch on their screens are the four Zendi ships
Starting point is 00:37:07 ganging up on a moon nearby. And we learn after enhancing a couple of times, these moons are pretty messed up and they're messed up because one of them is covered with a giant butthole and Archer says he's used to seeing something like that in a bikini, like the bikini atoll. Yeah. Everybody's like, what do you mean, Archer says he's used to seeing something like that in a bikini, like the bikini atoll. Yeah, everybody's like, what do you mean, Archer?
Starting point is 00:37:30 He explains nuclear testing and he's like, well, we got to go in there and like take these guys out. And Shren is like, I don't want to do that. There are a lot more of them than there are of us. This is not going to be a frontal assault if I'm involved. What I like about this moment is that Shran doesn't turn into Burke here with some sort of flimsy defense of like,
Starting point is 00:37:57 no, we shouldn't go in there. Weapons hot, that weapons platform has a very high dollar value. Like, you don't even get a whiff of that off of Shran here, and I think that's really important. This sells the Deception so well. Yeah. There's another moment where Trip and Shran are, like, walking down a hallway,
Starting point is 00:38:17 and Trip is talking about some kind of component for warp engines that he'd love to, like, borrow a part from Sran if a part is available. Like, man, that would soup up our engines great. Isn't it crazy that Sran walks around Enterprise by himself to just get approached like this by Tripp? This felt to me like a celebrity walking by themselves and just getting seized upon by like some hangar on
Starting point is 00:38:45 that wants an autograph or something. Right, some fucking weirdo sitting in the seat next to them that just like won't leave them alone on the flight back from STLV. You know, you should fly back from STLV. We got to rerun the experiment. Man, you think we could figure out what flight Frakes is on? This would take some intel gathering,
Starting point is 00:39:07 because it was just, it was just. What you're describing is stalking, Ben. And I think that's the opposite of not talking to Frakes while you're sitting next to him on a plane. That's the thing. The pendulum swung too far. I mean, he's addressed it, you know. At this point, he's addressed it.
Starting point is 00:39:22 I don't think we need to go any further. Good luck with the greatest generation. The next time I see you in a plane. I will um I won't say anything to you either I think that's probably the best bet bye bye We should on stage at STLV like we should make that one of our panels just a therapy session between you and Jonathan Frakes I Absolutely love that if you can make it I would, I would agree to being up there. I would love to moderate that because I've got a ton of questions for you both about
Starting point is 00:39:52 what, what would actually be the best possible outcome from that moment. I want to know if he was impressed by how quickly I solved the Sunday crossword puzzle on that flight mostly out of like stress like I am going to focus so fucking hard on solving this crossword puzzle and not bothering him that's an energy though that you can feel it's a good thing that flights only 40 minutes legally it's just a fart joke. I gotta admit something that I don't feel good about. Sometimes I skip meals.
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Starting point is 00:44:15 Shran and Tripp talk a little bit about what it's like to have a dead sibling and the feelings of remorse and desires for revenge that it may or may not inspire in someone. This is kind of aliens kicking the tires on each other. Are you guys like us? Do you love your families? Are you fully sentient in the way that we consider it to be? Do you like revenge? That's such a weird curvature to this moment because on the one hand, Sran is like, yeah, sorry about your dead sister. On the other hand, Sran is like, how blood thirsty are you? You thirsty for blood? And Trip has such an interesting answer. Trip has, I wouldn't say gotten over it, but like what
Starting point is 00:45:00 was revenge is more of a feeling of like, I just don't want other sisters to get killed by this indie weapon. Make mine the last. This is my opportunity to stop the murder of sisters going forward. Yeah. Back in the Legion of Doom, Degra is showing off the weapon.
Starting point is 00:45:23 Degra's with the fleet though, in this case. Like he's not a- Oh yeah, yeah. He's on FaceTime with the guys in the gathering hall, especially built gathering hall to accommodate aquatics, I guess. I think it's important that he's there on site. Yeah, yeah.
Starting point is 00:45:39 He's the contractor for this weapon. They are getting ready to run a test fire and they have to abort very suddenly because an unknown ship enters the system and the Legion is not happy. They're like, what are you doing? I swear there's a ship. Yeah, there's no fucking way we can, you know.
Starting point is 00:45:59 It's from Canada, you can't see it. Like there's something with our FaceTime. I can't like flip it around to show you what we're seeing but I'm telling you this ship is bearing down on us. Yeah so he ends the call and does a FaceTime with Shran who's like hey I'm just I'm just here from the Andorian mining coalition or whatever doing doing an assay of this system. There are valuable resources to be gotten on this G-Class planet. What do you think? This is a very fun scene because of the line reading spin that Jeffrey Combs gives this
Starting point is 00:46:41 dialogue. He is so much fun here with choosing where he emphasizes things and the upward downward motion of his sentences and his gesticulations. He's never been more handsy and performative than he is in this moment. He's so good. There's like the Mrs. Doubtfire moment where he names the mineral that they're trying to mine after Captain Archer. There's the like arch villain, the Antorian mining consortium runs from no one. Yeah. Shran is there to bullshit.
Starting point is 00:47:13 Is Degra a bullshitter? He is not. He threatens them with destruction. And so Shran has to turn his ship around and get the hell out of there. But one thing he was at great pains to explain away was how penetrative their scans were being. Turns out what we now have is a very detailed scan of the prototype weapon that Degro was about to test.
Starting point is 00:47:38 And back in the command center, Trane is like, why don't we let them test this thing? Like, let's see what they can do with this thing. Don't you think that that would be interesting? And Archer's like, I have a better idea. Let's fucking get it. It's pretty fun. What do you say we turn this episode into a caper?
Starting point is 00:47:58 Yeah. Can I sell you on that? I was so delighted that like the halfway mark, this turned into a heist episode Yeah in the armory Reed and lieutenant Talis are working well together and No one's balls are getting kicked. It's so clear though that both of them are wearing lipstick hmm, this is another hardcore read lipstick episode and when he's in a scene with Talos, who's wearing the dark blue shade, like...
Starting point is 00:48:30 It looks a little ridiculous to me. I keep not seeing this lipstick that you're talking about. I swear to God it's there. I mean, I don't disbelieve you. I believe Adam, but... I should send you a screen grab of what I'm looking at. Yeah. What I have is motion smoothing on at 500%,
Starting point is 00:48:51 like smooth the hell out of it. Oh yeah, you've got like the vivid gamer picture settings all cranked up, I imagine. Epic HDR jacked up for sure. And I guess that might've done something with the lipstick shade. Hmm. Oh, weird. Maybe. Anyways, yeah, they've built some mutual respect,
Starting point is 00:49:11 but we get a little hint of something suspicious going on when Reed walks away and she's like scanning something in a way that indicates that maybe she's like not scanning for entirely benevolent reasons. So we get to see this test. We get to see the test fire of the weapon and it's like major, right? Like, you know, if this was the earth,
Starting point is 00:49:36 if this kind of destruction was visited on the earth, it would not be a livable planet afterwards, but it didn't do what the Death Star did to Princess Leia's home world. What's it called? Alderaan? You know, I think that they were looking for an Alderaan and they didn't quite get it. It is interesting how like when you and I watched this, I was thinking, great success, good job.
Starting point is 00:50:00 Degra is going to get a high five for this. Oh boy, the reaction is mixed. This indie council not psyched because they wanted it to blow big like you were saying. And they're like, Degra, what the fuck, man? We want a one-shot, one-kill Earth. And this thing is going to need to shoot several times. That's not going to work. He is saying, I need time to analyze the data. Like it was it was about to overload. We don't
Starting point is 00:50:26 know what was causing that. And the bugs and the lizards and the aquatics are like, you're fucking up. Like we we might have to go in a different direction at this point. You're not going to get the remaining 90% of your contract. God, Degris patience to not shove this in the aquatics face in every possible scene. The restraint of that. I know. I know.grous patience to not shove this in the aquatic's face in every possible scene. The restraint of that. I know. I know. I'd like to see you fucking flipper-fin assholes
Starting point is 00:50:52 try to put together a bomb from inside a tank full of water. Fucking assholes. Shut the fuck up. Blu-blu-blu-blu-blu. That's my impression of you guys. Blu-blu-blu-blu-blu. Yeah, learn to speak an intelligible language and then we'll fucking talk Bloo, bloo, bloo, bloo, bloo. That's my impression of you guys. Bloo, bloo, bloo, bloo, bloo, bloo. Yeah. Learn to speak an intelligible language and then we'll fucking talk about whether
Starting point is 00:51:09 you think I'm up for the job. Same goes for you, insects. So in the command center, T'Pol has observed this weapons fire too. I like that Shran is kind of on Degris's side. He's like, that, I mean, that looked pretty bad. Shran is kind of on Degros side. He's like, that looked pretty bad. They realized that this thing is easily overloaded. So that's what makes this test a failure.
Starting point is 00:51:33 I mean, not only can it not destroy an earth-sized planet with a single shot, it's going to overheat were it to try to do that. And so, for the moment, Dera's team is waiting for the radiation on this prototype to dissipate before they pick it up. And Archer asked Paul, maybe they could bring it on board while it's just being left out in space like this, right? Yeah. But they can't bring it on board safely due to how radioactive it is. We should also point out that Archer thinks Greyling may have adulterated the kibosite
Starting point is 00:52:08 that they used to fire the weapon. And this is Greylik being a real one on their behalf. Hell yeah. Shran is like, okay, my ship is way better than yours. Like we can get the sphere on board and use force fields to protect ourselves from the radiation. But you're gonna need to have operational weapons
Starting point is 00:52:27 if we're gonna roll in here and raid the proving ground. So it is really on Reed and Talos to get their shit together. And they do in a fun and flirty way, don't they? Yeah. It's not the weapon, it's the soldier who wields it. Do you think Talos is going to start to get letters from Reed every time he thinks he's in a mildly life-threatening situation? I bet.
Starting point is 00:52:53 Yeah. Yeah, they haven't gotten very far down the road, and I think she might be letter-worthy. Even though you betrayed me at the proving ground, there's a lack of closure between us that I must address at this, the time of my death. I must make you understand that much like my behavior changed the direction and orientation of your antenna, you have affected my one single antenna below my waist. Mine stands at full erection for you. Back with Archer and Tran.
Starting point is 00:53:35 Would Tran allow Archer to command his ship during the retrieval? Because it's clear, you know, the Andorian ship's going to be the one to do it. Run and point on that. There's some pretty serious pushback to this idea. I mean- This almost turns into a fist fight. Trane is like, no, fuck you and fuck that idea forever. And Archer's like, it's my mission.
Starting point is 00:53:56 It's my planet that we're trying to save here. Like if you're offering your help, I need to be there. I need to, I need to be the one calling shots to be the one call in shots to make sure that this thing gets grabbed properly. What I love about this argument is that if you can possibly set aside how suspicious Sran has acted at times during this episode, it makes all the sense in the world that Sran doesn't want Archer being the commander of his ship.
Starting point is 00:54:23 That would suck. Yeah. It's like your buddy inviting you on a road trip and then being like, I'm driving. It's like, well, hold on, it's my car. Yeah. The Imperial Guard doesn't serve at your leisure, pinkskin. We don't see the resolution here, but we do see Shran getting on FaceTime with his superior officer, an Andorian general, who, unlike Shran, has zero affection for Archer.
Starting point is 00:54:50 Like, Shran is fine fucking Archer over, but he doesn't relish it the way this general seems to. This general does not see any advantage of an alliance with humans. He wants Shran to do the thing he's been ordered to do, whatever that is. We don't know yet. We cut down to the weapons bay where Reed and Talos
Starting point is 00:55:10 are still working. And this is where it becomes clear, like, how washed Reed is. Like, she really has him wrapped around her little finger at this point. Reed's taken a break from eating a dozen cherry popsicles to confront her about what she's doing. A dozen cherry popsicles and one blue one.
Starting point is 00:55:30 Yeah. Reed asks Lieutenant Talis what she's doing peeping on the sensor array without him knowing about it. That's not an area of your work order that you're supposed to be giving attention. She comes up with some flimsy excuse that Reed seems to accept. She's credible to him. At least he makes her think she is.
Starting point is 00:55:50 Yeah. She was doing something to the sensors. She claims to be repairing them. The entrepreneur approaches the Zindi with T'Polin command, and this is a source of great consternation for Degra and company. So they kind of scramble ships to go deal with the approaching human ship, and that leaves the weapon relatively undefended for Archer to take Shren's ship in to grab it. And a great big space battle breaks out. I thought it was conspicuous
Starting point is 00:56:25 that Enterprise fired first here. I thought that was neat. Yeah, it was good. Good job. Not a lot of Starfleet vessels Vulcan hello quite so well. The entrepreneurs fighting a couple of Cindy ships. The weapon, the orb was way smaller
Starting point is 00:56:42 than I was expecting. It like tucks into a shuttle bay on Shran's ship. Yeah, I thought the same thing. So, you know, they disable a couple of Zindi ships and the others don't pursue and the two ships bug out, but is it time to meet at the rendezvous point that they set prior to the engagement? Nope. Shran reveals that this was all in the service of the Andorians
Starting point is 00:57:08 getting a hold of the Zindi weapon. Now I see why you generously offered to let us use your ship. You son of a bitch. Ben, is this the first time son of a bitch has been said on Star Trek? And is son of a Bitch actually interpreted as a compliment in Andorian, given what we know about Terra and Talos? Like, is it like, yeah, thank you. You get a cool ass mom who doesn't take no shit from anyone. Yeah, I think it's good.
Starting point is 00:57:43 Great line read by Bakula, though. Like, he really gave this some extra energy. Yeah, I think it's good. Great line read by Bakula though. Like he really gave this some extra energy. Well, mustard on that. Yeah. What we learned is that the Andorians plan to use the Zindi weapon as sort of like a nuclear deterrent. Like if we have a planet killer weapon, we can just be like, hey, fuck with us at your peril.
Starting point is 00:58:02 But we recommend not. Shran is eating a couple of deli sandwiches out of a bag when he explains the situation to Archer and he's like, look, I'm just following orders. My hands are tied. My hands are tied, but also like, this is good for you too. We got the weapon that was imperiling your planet. The Zindi will think twice before trying to like proceed on this path. Like you got a lot of what you want, Archer. Like maybe take this as the W that it actually
Starting point is 00:58:33 is. Shran doesn't know exactly how accurate he is when he says that, look, a powerful planet exploding weapon for the Vulcans especially seem like would be an incredible deterrent, right? Like I'm talking about just the Vulcan people seem to have a sort of sensitivity about their planet being exploded. They would hate that. Shrantz should buy a lottery ticket.
Starting point is 00:59:01 He should. The other reveal here is that Talis was fucking with the entrepreneur's sensor array. So the entrepreneur will never be able to find the Andorians before they're long gone. Don't worry, Archer, we're gonna leave you in an escape pod. You're gonna be fine.
Starting point is 00:59:19 They ditch Archer, but the second he's back aboard the entrepreneur, it is revealed that he was wise to to Shran the whole time or if not wise like double checking everybody's math and Reid and to Paul like caught the subterfuge as it was happening. So they got the sensors back online Like they're they're ready to chase these and Oriens And they catch right up to him, which is great. Yeah, like Shran is on the phone with the general going like, hey, like big mission success, Jen, when the entrepreneur shows up and Archer reveals
Starting point is 00:59:57 that his team got the remote trigger signals for the weapon so they can start it up right inside Shran's shuttle bay if he wants. I love this. Seems like Archer isn't bluffing. Like the longer this conversation goes, the less bluff seems to be apparent. There's like a Curb Your Enthusiasm style stare down
Starting point is 01:00:23 scene between them. ["Curb Your Enthusiasm Theme"] ["Curb Your Enthusiasm Theme"] Okay. Before Shran gets a report that the weapon's been activated, and there's a 30-second countdown, and at 20 seconds, Shran is forced to dump it out. I love the Cur curb comparison because those scenes are always about like, would you really do
Starting point is 01:00:49 something like that? Like playing on the morality. And Archer is basically doing that with a gun to Sran's head. It's great. It's so great. I was surprised at the end game here when this prototype exploded, that surprised me.
Starting point is 01:01:05 I was shocked because it seemed like such a crucial piece of intelligence that they were sacrificing just to say, fuck you to the Andorians. Like it seemed like once he dumped it out, maybe like turn off the signal. Sometimes a really great fuck you, like deployed incredibly well, is worth all of it. Yeah.
Starting point is 01:01:26 Yeah. I got a huge laugh the other day. I was in a left turn lane, one of the rare left turn lanes in LA. And I watched a pedestrian crossing the street and nearly get killed by a Prius that hit the left, like a little bit after the light turned red, he just like drummed on the back hood of the Prius and gave him a big fuck you in the rear view mirror. Oh, it was so beautiful.
Starting point is 01:01:53 That's a righteous finger. Yeah, so beautiful not to see a man murdered by a motorist and so beautiful to see him able to actually convey his displeasure to that motorist who might've just been blithely unaware otherwise. He lives to flick off another day. Yeah, yeah. And that's kind of what happened here.
Starting point is 01:02:16 This game of Zindi Weapon Chicken ends up with Archer as the big winner. It fucks up Shran's ship. They're not gonna be moving anytime soon. And I love the, let's offer all the help they need. We can come aboard with engineering crews and help them fix their shit. Yeah, table turn right there.
Starting point is 01:02:38 Shran, not interested. He's gonna limp home and do the repairs on his own. But in the command center, it is very surprising that they have received a secret coded message. And the message contains detailed scans of the Zindi weapon. And it is clear that this message has been sent to them from the Andorian ship. Basically, you're sort of led to believe that this is as good as it could get of having information about this Indy weapon without having the weapon itself.
Starting point is 01:03:10 And, uh, yeah, somebody, somebody on that Andorian ship sent it to them. Kind of think it was Shran, but unclear. Got to be Shran, right? Yeah. Shran's playing 3D checkers. Yeah. He, he for sure Shran's playing 3D checkers. Yeah. He for sure is for sure playing 3D checkers. Did you like this episode of Star Trek Enterprise, Adam? -♪ I can't pay... -♪ Could be late...
Starting point is 01:03:37 -♪ Got no case... -♪ Tempting fate... Ben, I really think after this, Andorians might be my favorite Enterprise alien. And definitely on the mountain of Star Trek aliens. They'll give you some fucking lip. They'll kick you in the nuts. They'll give you a ton of help. They're basically everything that T'Pol described, but it's so circumstantial.
Starting point is 01:04:06 I think her characterization is largely objective. Yeah, we've got trust issues with the Andorians, but circumstantially, circumstances like this episode, you can trust them. There's a messiness to them that is clear up until the end of this episode, but eventually they got what they needed by the friend they've got on Shran's ship. It's so much more complex than just chaotic neutral.
Starting point is 01:04:35 Like Shran is chaotic neutral with aspirations toward chaotic good, I think. And he's such a juicy character for that reason. Like, he's always got a chaotic evil lieutenant, it seems like. But they seem maybe like the most human of any Star Trek alien in some ways. Like, it's not just they're warriors or they're logical
Starting point is 01:05:02 or they're tricky or they love money. It's a more complex shading than that. Like, you can't distill it down to one word. Yeah, I think that's fair. Yeah, I like this episode a lot. I mean, like that long ass last time on felt really earned by the end of this. Like, there was so much story building that was done.
Starting point is 01:05:26 Like, they don't, they can't do this anymore. Like, we're 13 episodes into a season, and this is drawing on all 13 episodes. This is a fucking, you know, series finale in today's terms. Yeah, it really is. And we're at the halfway mark. Like, this is like tagging the myth arc before we can do a couple more Monster of the Weeks.
Starting point is 01:05:44 And, you know, Archer has to go back in time and, you know, be a Knight in King Arthur's Court episode or something. That's true. Yeah. Yeah, those days aren't coming back, man. No. Appreciate them while they're here. Yeah. This is like right in that era where they still made 26 episodes of a TV show per season, but they were writing in the way that they are now, where like tons of threads come together and split back apart over the course of seasons. So really cool to see.
Starting point is 01:06:10 And I liked it. You want to see if there's anything fun in the Priority One inbox? Maybe we've got 26 Priority One messages in there, Ben. That would be huge for us. Priority One message from Starfleet coming in on Secure Channel. Need a supplemental income.
Starting point is 01:06:25 Supplemental income? Supplemental. Supplemental. Yeah, it's extra. By the interest alone, could be enough to buy this ship. Let's start off with this one. Ben, it's a promotional message. Okay.
Starting point is 01:06:38 Here's how that one goes. He, who is my husband, got laid off while he was out on medical leave and bounced back by starting his own business. Hell yeah. I'm so proud of you, Dan. I'm blowing $200 to promote your handy human and drain cleaning biz. And if that isn't support, what is? Get out there and clear all clogs everywhere.
Starting point is 01:07:03 Also, if there's time, in honor of what Dan does for a living, I'd love to hear Ben say clear and clear. All clogs everywhere. Also if there's time, in honor of what Dan does for a living, I'd love to hear Ben say, if a pile of poo had a ghost again, as in season 2 episode 10 at 30 minutes 20 seconds or so. If a pile of poo had a ghost. See that's nice, right? Burianfixandflow.com is where you can contact Dan and get your pipes cleared. And I mean that in a plumbing sense,
Starting point is 01:07:33 professional home ownership context and not any other way at all. This is legal as far as we know what Dan does. Burian, one of the great South Seattle townships. No shortage of clogged pipes in Buryan and a very, very supportive partner here in Liz. I'm guessing we've got a lot of like pipes that have been in the ground for, you know, 70, 80 years now.
Starting point is 01:08:00 Oh yeah. That, you know, got a lot of roots growing into them and things. Get Dan on your side. Come on. Look, I don't want to oversell Dan, but I'm sure Dan's got one of those cameras on the end of a big hose. Run that hose in the hole.
Starting point is 01:08:15 Start looking at what's going on in your pipes. Hydrojet that shit out. Again, I mean the pipes underneath your home and no other type of pipe. No inappropriate pipes. Dan is not sticking a camera into you, okay? No, that's not the sort of plumber he is. No, I mean, I don't know what he does with his wife
Starting point is 01:08:33 who clearly loves him a lot, but, you know, we got a lot of friends at DeSoto in the Seattle area. Yeah. I'm guessing some of own homes in South Seattle specifically. Get Dan on your side. It's BurianFixandFlow.com.
Starting point is 01:08:48 Here's what I'll tell you. Having lived in Seattle for many years, I had to call a blank router, like there are 10 companies with router in the name, for plumbing needs. You don't have to do that when BurianFixandFlow is there. Our next P1 is from Mistress Phantom, and it's to Dungeon Kappa. Goes like this.
Starting point is 01:09:09 We have differences. You like feet. I like latex. But we're both from the Great Lakes, like curvy shapes, and have hot takes. Arguing about media is fun, but also sometimes profound, special, and healing. Glad you like Greatest Gen. Glad you journeyed with me on this trek across the stars. Live long and prosper.
Starting point is 01:09:31 Thanks for being a friend. I can see Dungeon Kappa has a humiliation kink from Mistress Phantom. Who's put them on blast in the Priority 1 messages. Nothing more humiliating than being associated publicly with the greatest generation and various nuts are being busted very hard right now in the dungeon. I can only imagine. You should be so ashamed, Dungeon Kappa.
Starting point is 01:09:58 There they go again, busting once more. Let's just say on behalf of me and Adam and Windy and Bill and Rob and the whole X-British Moda team, we're deeply ashamed of you, Dungeon Kappa. Finally, Ben, we have a message here from Pete and it's to Ben and Adam. Here's that message. Thanks Ben and Adam for all the great pod over the years. If I'm feeling down, I just need a good laugh. My go-to is listening to your backstacks. Aww. With DS9 being my fave, I'm currently re-listening
Starting point is 01:10:32 and there are so many great bits, drops and characters that come out of that run. Wanted to throw some extra scarves your way as a thanks and can I get the toast drop? HULGARD TOAST MAN! Wow that's a deep cut drop at this point. That's it that was a good job. That drop had a moment for six episodes.
Starting point is 01:10:56 There's like two versions of it too right? There were two different lieutenant toasts I think. Oh geez and there's two different drop versions? Yeah so let's let's get both of them. Lieutenant George Primm in Starfleet Security. I'm Lieutenant Commander Michael Eddington, Starfleet Security. Hoggart Toes Man! Good stuff.
Starting point is 01:11:19 Thanks Pete, thanks for the kind words. Thanks to everyone who gets a P1. It is maximumfun.org slash jumbotron to set one up and we sure appreciate it. Helps us cover costs over here. There are two versions of priority one messages, aren't there, Ben? Sure.
Starting point is 01:11:36 Personal promotional. Kinky and not kinky. Oh yeah, that's what I meant. You heard both kinds. Yeah. Hey Adam. What? Did you find yourself a drunk Shimoda? Incredible! Drunk Shimoda!
Starting point is 01:11:49 Man, it's gotta be Shran until it's not. He is so compelling. Yeah. I don't know, man. Like, if you're gonna rank all the Jeffrey Combs characters, this might just be recency bias, but I'm really picking up what Shran's putting down. I like that he's drinking at his desk. I like that he's having conversations with generals that go one way and doing things in a completely different way. Yeah. Out of sight. I like that he's playing all sides.
Starting point is 01:12:22 To what end? I don't know. Shran's out there for Shran first and foremost. Like he took an oath, I'm sure, to get his command, but Shran's doing what's best for number one. Yeah. I didn't like his ship though. The bridge really has lobby of an orthodontist vibes. Yeah.
Starting point is 01:12:42 Like I wish it looked a little more tactical. I think it's a little more tactical. I think it's the carpeted floor that does a lot of that work. I'm impressed with how much of that ship that they built. Sure. It kind of makes me think that they have some designs for the ship in future episodes.
Starting point is 01:12:57 Yeah, we'll be back there someday. Yeah. I'm gonna give it to Talos just cause if I wanted to inhabit a character, it would be the one that gets to nut shot Reed a bunch of times. Reed gets the better of Talos ultimately, but she gets to have all the fun along the way. Do you think she got a lot of shit growing up
Starting point is 01:13:16 for being named after Talosians? Don't get close to her, she'll melt your fucking mind. Yeah, maybe that's why she's got such a chip Don't get close to her. She'll melt your fucking mind. Yeah. Yeah, maybe that's why she's got such a chip on her shoulder. Yeah, I could see that. Yeah, I mean, like nobody cuts their hair like that because they're like super well adjusted, right? Yeah.
Starting point is 01:13:41 You know, that is an aspect we didn't bring up. She is cutting her own bangs, and that means... That means trauma. Yeah. In the language of television, that means going through some shit. And she's going to be a little bit of a crazy fucker, I think, in maybe the best way. Yeah. Faith of the fart.
Starting point is 01:13:59 Let's talk about what we're going to watch next week, Ben. Let's do it. You're going to give us the scoop on that while I go over to gock.biz slash game and the game of buttholes, Will the Riker Quantum Leap to see how that review will be experienced. Next episode is season three episode 14, stratagem. Archer finds himself face to face with Degra, designer of the Zindi super weapon and tries to get him to reveal its location. Archer's like, how long is it gonna take, man?
Starting point is 01:14:32 Kind of seems like you've had a lot of time and Degra's like, fuck, fuck, not this again. It's like constant. I fucking hate this. I can't get a fucking break anywhere. See if we get a break about how we're going to experience the episode, Ben. Currently we're on square 50,
Starting point is 01:14:50 but by the time I roll this die, the runabout could be anywhere. Sure could. You're required to learn as you play. Roll. Open. I've rolled a 19, which means we have once again landed on square 69. Oh shit!
Starting point is 01:15:10 Really? A decontamination chamber episode where we will be once again recording in underpants. I guess I'm glad it's during the hot summer months. The studio is absolutely sweltering right now. It is really fucking hot. I might actually feel better were I to disrobe. And that'll be the style of episode we do next week. A regular old episode for our audio listeners. A terrifying vision of a couple of aging male bodies on the video version. Not a great thing to put up on social media
Starting point is 01:15:42 and feel super good about the series of choices in your life that led you to this point. Hey Rob, thanks for not turning off the comments on those posts. Cool. You know, I'm talking about Rob Adler there, one of the great folks who helps us with our socials media all across the internet. Yeah, but also, fuck you, Rob. We would never say fuck you to Windy Pretty, who keeps the show on the rails. No, nor the legions of Friends of De Soto
Starting point is 01:16:15 who support at MaximumFun.org slash join. Yeah. Look at us loop-de-loop through the credits. This is nice. Gotta thank Bill Tilly, our Zindi wartime consigiary. Mm-hmm. He's not gonna be shirtless on camera. He's got too much fucking dignity. Completely absent dignity, Adam Ragusea, who makes the theme in interstitial music for our programs while we still honor the contribution of Dark Materia, who plays our credits music for every episode of we still honor the contribution of Dark Materia
Starting point is 01:16:45 who plays our credits music for every episode of Greatest Gens. With that we will be back at you next time with another great episode of Star Trek Enterprise, another episode of the Greatest Generation Enterprise where Adam and Ben are like meeting for the first time in a... I guess it was like the second time in a really weird way. You know? And it's like... What are you doing at this orgy? Again! I honestly don't want Adam to reveal the location of his super weapon to me. If it's gonna be like this.
Starting point is 01:17:19 No. No. That changes the show forever. Not gonna do it.

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