The Greatest Generation - Skinny Lennie (VOY S6E6)

Episode Date: June 26, 2023

When Tuvok gets zapped coming back from an away mission, his life gets much simpler as he gets closer than ever to Neelix. But when Captain Janeway threatens a race of paranoid xenophobes, it’s a Tuvix-level loss when she gets her Chief Tactical Officer back. Which bone of contention can also be a studio decoration? When is it too early for a walkable Piña Colada? What’s the ultimate Greatest Gen question? It’s the episode that discovers a bi-directional space butthole!Support the production of The Greatest Generation.Friends of DeSoto for Democracy.Friends of DeSoto for Justice. Follow The Game of Buttholes: The Will of the Caretaker!Music by Adam Ragusea & Dark MateriaFollow The Greatest Generation on Twitter, and discuss the show using the hashtag #GreatestGen!The Greatest Generation is on YouTube.Facebook group | Subreddit | Discord | WikiSign up for our mailing list!Get a thing at podshop.biz!

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Boardhead U.S. Captain Captain Welcome to the greatest generation. It's a Star Trek podcast by a couple of guys who are a little bit embarrassed. I have a Star Trek podcast. I'm Ben Harrison.

I'm Adam Pranica. It's Coco Nono. Episode today. Sure is. Or, uh, is I like to say Coco, yes, yes. I almost forgot. Another Coco Nono. Credible!

Coco Nono. It's a hell of a combination. Drink will be gone. I think it's had enough already. This is gonna help me. Another Coco Nono. Whose? Bullshit.

Another Coco Nono. Coco Nono. Coco Nono. More. Easy. Better. No, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, Yeah, I walked down the street, picked one up. Wow. We have a whole segment about what we're drinking. So we should start that segment, right? Where do you drink in Ben?

I am drinking a shoot from the hip mango peanut calada. Oh, so we're kinda drinking the same. Yeah, I did, you know, rum, lime, sugar, coconut milk. I didn't have coconut cream, so I did a little coconut milk and then, you know, handful of frozen mango chunks instead of pineapple. And you're drinking it out of the hoof

from Star Trek Las Vegas, it's great. My wife and I have been doing a lot of purging of crap from our house and garage lately. Wow. And this was a recent bonafid contention because it had been put up in a high cabinet and she was pulling stuff out of that cabinet. She was like, surely, surely I can get rid of this.

And I said, no. Garrett Wong is gonna buy this off of a internet auction someday. That's great about having a home studio. That is suddenly studio decoration. That is. It's not for house. It's for work.

Yeah, exactly. So, yeah, it came out good though. It's a nice drink. I have to say, it was a little shameful to while my baby's daycare provider was sitting in my living room eating her lunch Yeah, I went in there and got a bottle of rum from the table next to where she was eating Where does she think babies come from? I

Don't think you need to feel bad about that at all. That rum is what keeps the childcare employees in this country employed probably. She said, oh, thank you for getting some of that job security and helping yourself to it. Yeah, there you go. Yeah, how about you? That's a pretty down the middle,

but very well-made Pina Colata, if memory serves. It is, except I think I jumped the gun on their Pina colata slushy machine because I rolled in there just to let the viewers know this is about two in the afternoon that we're getting on the mics. It turns out it was a little early for the frozen Pinalata machine to be fully frozen. So I got like, I think most people will understand like the Slurpy machine style consistency when it's not quite all the way there.

Still really cold. But just a little, I'm holding it up to the camera for the viewers, just a little, just a little thin. Yeah, yeah, it's got a real like, rhinoceros seam and consistency. And what the guy offered was like, yeah, do you want me to just put that over ice? And in my head, I'm doing the math. I'm like, no, I'm going to put it over ice.

I want all of the booze. Yeah, yeah. Don't try and step on my pinnacle, Aura. Yeah, so I said, no, I drank a bit of it on the way home. On the walk home, I should say, because I was, because I drank a bit of it on the way home. On the walk home I should say, because I was walking responsibly. And then yeah, I added some ice cubes to it, but fortunately for windy,

I've kept it in the plastic cup so that there shouldn't be a lot of clanking. And here we are. I think it's fun that they gave it to you in a to-go container. That's really great. Yeah, I love it. I also have like a backup to kill a seltzer

in a can thing. Yeah. If I'm feeling good and I want more. I did a little floater and stir when I got home. I added ice, but I added also a little topper. Because I drank it down a little bit on the walk. I had to fill it back up again, so. So that's part of the consistency issue?

Yeah, I think I'm going to be one cup only. But this one, I think that'll set me up nice. Okay, all right. Well, I don't really have much to add to this, Marin. I think we should probably get into the episode that we came to talk about today. Yeah, pretty easy one to figure out, right? There's no kind of processing of clues to make this story go, Ben. It's Star Trek Voyager Season 6, episode 6, Riddles.

Rebirth course. Unless you've got something a little bigger in your torpedo toots, I'm not turning around. Hard. And it's the first time Roxanne Dawson has been in the big chair. She's in the Star Trek Directors Club with this one. I didn't realize that.

I didn't catch the director credit as it went by. That's great. She's still directing a lot of TV from what I understand. She's in the rotation on that Apple TV series foundation. Oh, yeah. I thought that her episodes of that were really terrific. Season one, I think there's, I think there might be a new season of that coming or already out. Well, pretty disappointing start to the episode

from Jump with Neelix's ambassador's log. And I don't know who his presence is more disappointing to the viewer or two Valk with whom he has roadtripped. It's just them in the shuttle. And two Valk has no interest in these time wasting games that Neelix wants to do. Species starship or anomaly is the fuck Mary Kill of Star Trek, right? It really is, yeah. Is Species fuck? Because Species the movie is a movie about an alien that fucks. I'm almost positive this was a game that came up on Star Trek Discovery early on, right?

That the crew played? Oh shit. Do you remember that? I kind of remember that. There's got to be a memory alpha entry for this, right? Yeah, you would think. Well, you would think, but I didn't click. Somebody will have to do that research because it's not going to be us. Is this the first time that Nielix and Tuvac have been together on a mission since Tuvix. I think it is. Tuvix really looms over this episode.

It really does. And goes unmentioned. How much more fun would it be if it were mentioned, kind of a lot? It would really up the fun factor. I think so too. Yeah, so a brittle is proposed. And this is like a, we cannot group our time

by me doing riddles to you. And you can improve the quality of your mind to Vock. Very well. One riddle. I want to do a riddle about as much as I want to hear about a person's dream. Just leave me out of that. I feel like I'm on like video-based social media apps.

That's a real genre. Like, they tell you the premise of a riddle, and then they're like, come back for part two to find out the answer. And it's mainly just a way to game the algorithm. If you watch long enough to hear it, and you're kind of going nuts trying to think of the answer, then you go into their account and engage with it.

That's not a cliff hanger to me. Yeah. I just walk off that cliff. Ah! I'm not grabbing hold of anything. You've always been the wily coyote of logic games. Yeah. Yeah.

It's so exhausting to be around Nielix. We all see it. Yeah. Tuvac needs to put on headphones or something, right? Mm-hmm. Tuvac kind of has headphone face in which like he shouldn't have to put on headphones for you to understand just by looking at him. If you sit next to him on a plane, he's not the type you want to just chat up.

Right. That's what those like really, really expensive Apple over the ear headphones are about. It's like, it's like a $500 stranger talk insurance policy. If that's the case, they may be worth the investment for me. Yeah. No kidding. I have to say, I am not, I think it will become obvious as to why this is. I am not besieged upon by this

a quarter of the time that my wife is when she travels. I think it is an unfortunate thing that people are so comfortable just chatting up lady strangers especially, and just like bothering them, shut up. Yeah, well, you look a lot stabier than your wife. I do, yeah, I've got stabier than your wife. I do. Yeah.

I've got two-vac face. I would prefer some peace and quiet. So two-vac is like hanging out in the back of the shuttle where he's gone to take some refuge from Nielix and notices that something's going on on one of the computers back there. He radiose up to Nielix and he's like, hey man, what are you doing with the aff tactical computer? It's really weird that it's just going right now. And. He's like, it doesn't seem like something that an ambassador

and he uses like, live long and prosper fingers to do the quotes. Hahaha. What would have access to? What'd you do in? Whatcha doin'? Yeah, what do you have to do? This moment really confused me because the way Nelix responds is very much like

Guy who is trying to get away with something would respond. He's like, what, what do you mean? I'm not doing anything, nothing. Are you at Haunted House? No, I jacked off for 15 minutes. Yeah. It's not a great way to cover for what you're really doing. Right, right.

So TuVoc is like scanning whatever's going on over here with his tricorder and we see kind of a shimmery effect. Somebody's got a cloaking field and a phaser comes out of it and hits Tuvac, and it's like another innovation and fucked up face makeup from the Voyager, fucked up face makeup department, which I assume is its own separate sub-department from the makeup and hair department, right?

They've been busy. Yeah. From the front, Nielix can only listen to this attack. And when Nielix pops into the back, he sees two Vuck flopping around on the floor as the camera spirals upward. And that really made me wonder how much Roxanne Dawson learned from Jonathan Freaks. Because that's a Freaks move right there. The Star Trek film school really teaches a specific style.

It would seem there's a whole semester about God shots with brakes. Yeah, he teaches God shots 301, which you know, like that's the really advanced level. How disturbed are you if you are on Voyager and you get the Mayday call from Nelix. I would assume very disturbed. Yeah, that's not good. We come back and we're in the emergency room scene. It is the captain, the doctor and Nelix tending to the vibrating and twitching, to Voc, no Paris, no other personnel in the room.

And only a clip show device seems to help No Paris, no other personnel in the room. And only Eclipsehow device seems to help in slowing down whatever is causing JuVac to rive. They do that thing where they ask Nelix, what happened? And Nelix has nothing useful to provide other than the story of him being like Kramer driving the bus and continuing to make the stop. So he's like, yeah, so Tuva went down and then like, it was up to me to fly the Delta flyer. And I did. They're like, Nielix McGrubber remembered the license plate.

The trouble right. Oh,, you. You're a good girl, you're a good girl. Yeah, Nielix, you had one job. And actually, no, yet two, because the one job was flying the Delta flyer. Good job. But. You did part one.

Not a great witness is Nielix. No. So they come up with the idea, like, they were on a diplomatic mission to talk to the Kassat. And maybe the Kassat will know what happened. And so they head over to I guess the Kassat part of the sector and they welcome Neuroch aboard. Wouldn't you have killed for an Anavisitor in this episode just just to say, Kassat and Yurak,

like she's so great with those hard consonants, you know? That would have been amazing. Yeah. I immediately was delighted to see that Yurak is played by the guy that plays the feckless lieutenant in platoon. Yeah. Just don't give a flying fuck anymore.

Yeah, he's great. Good clock. He's got a fun fuck anymore. Yeah, he's great. Good clock. He's got a fun kind of feckless investigator energy here. He's like some kind of deputy police guy who's like obsessed with this kind of long shot theory that there's a secret species around here called the Beneth or the Shadow people. And they have this history of attacking outsiders that fly their starships through this part of space. And he's just like obsessed with the idea that there are beneth, and that they can get

to the bottom of this if they only throw the resources of Voyager behind this theory that like, apparently he's kind of a joke on his home world for believing. You know who this made me think of. And part of it is Mark Moses' performance. And another part of it is just like his job and his reputation. Is it your preferred candidate for president, Robert F. Kennedy Jr.

This guy's like the Fox Molder of his species, right? Oh yeah, that's a good poll. Like they make me work out of the basement. I'm kind of laughed at by my peers. Yeah. I have kind of a will I won't I with a coworker that has been dragged along for many seasons. Yeah.

She's really out of my league and somehow I'm the sex symbol of, like a lot of television in this era. Right. So he's got an interesting proposal, right? He's like with with my equipment and your two-voch and the Delta flyer, I may be able to prove my wacky doodle theory. Yeah. I'm the only one that will give it to you straight. The earth is in fact flat. I'm not here to make two-vock better. I'm here to give myself credibility. Like, that's kind of the edge to him. It's like, it isn't really about two-vock for him.

No, not. But I think that part of this is just that we live in an era where people are like constantly trying to convince you that there's like, you know, evidence of an ancient civilization in Antarctica on social media. But like, I was just like, come on. Like, why are they buying what this guy is selling? It's anything though. It's like the belief in anything no matter how crazy is just a different spin. Like, that's free thinking. Yeah.

When did free thinking become just the name for being stupid? I don't know, it used to be the name for being like open to using LSD occasionally. I've got no problem with that. Let's go back to that. I think the bad free thinkers have taken over the label. Yeah.

And they think that like LSD is like a conspiracy from George Soros or something. It sucks. Of course it's locked in, but... I think this one to be very careful because I'm gonna have to say this once. No! Narak is impressed that two Vox brains

haven't been totally stick blended in there. And he also hears that two Vox found a cloaking frequency. Right. You know, like the tricorder got fried. It was the first thing that got hit by that beam. But there is a chance that some useful information is still around. Did it make you think down the road that that might have been an accident? Like maybe these aliens didn't mean to hurt Tuvac, and by hitting the the tricorder it was

just like a weird incident? There were so many ways I thought that this episode was going to go that it didn't. Yeah. This episode surprised me at most turns. Right. So they go to Six Bay and New York is really impressed that TuVak didn't buy the farm in the attack. The EMH is sort of annoyed that he has to entertain this guy, but is saying like, yeah, like Vulcans have

really super powerful brains, but he's basically in a vegetative state right now. So I think you should leave. So the captain offers to show Nurok to the Delta flyer, which also might be a place where they can find some evidence. The doctor suggests a kind of provocation as a way to get him out of his coma. If anyone can provoke two vachmas, Dr. Niel it's you.

And like Neelix's interpretation of this is to wheel in a bunch of personal items on a rock and roller production car. And like suddenly his hospital bed is looking like the floral section of a grocery store. Yeah. Oh, that's fragrant, isn't it? The doctors supposed to be in there

still doing business with other patients. They did this for Chicote one time too, right? And they like brought in like stuff. Yeah, they put the little scroll as a headboard. Yeah, yeah. With the like magnetic rocks that you could stick to it. God, that's really true, right? Chicote sort of set the tone as far as like

upper-class patients go in the 6th Bay. Like when you're bridge crew, you get the hospital bed like in its own room with a window. Yeah, it's really nice. You know, Nielix really trying to set two Valkop for success and puts on some Vulcan music if you can call it that. Yeah, he's also changed. Like, someone has changed him out of his uniform.

Was that Nelix? I hope it was the image. Do you think you can beam someone into a new uniform? Is that a thing that future discovery did or past discovery did? Or was it, did discovery just like make the uniform in a replicator and that's what we saw? Oh yeah, we did see the uniform getting uniform and a replicator and that's what we saw? Oh yeah, we did see the uniform getting made

in a replicator at one point. Yeah, it would seem as though having it beamed onto you would suggest like a sort of perfect tailoring. Right, right. But then you'd have to stay in there and be out. That'd be a tough couple of seconds, I think. I neglected to put on my uniform. And a transporter accident could be like

worse than zipping your dick up in your fly. Oh, yeah, I wouldn't like that. You thought two vicks was bad. What about two-neiform? Yeah, what about a uniform that cuts your dick in half? That's not good at all. The doctor does not like the music selection that Nielix has made, but it does have an effect. Tuvak sits up. He's nonverbal at this point, but he has regained consciousness and this is great news.

As performance is go, Tim Russ's version of Tuvac here begins like a frightened pet, the way that he acts, the way that he's immediately bonded with Nelix. Yeah, Nelix shows him that the medical tricorder is not gonna hurt him by using it on himself first. This is what Ripley responds to. He doesn't like a hair dryer, so I always use it on myself first to show that it's safe.

Yeah. It's like there's bedside manner and then there's diplomacy. Right. It's sort of like what you did. Like Darwin didn't know what to do with babies when he encountered them. And then you had one at him. Yeah. Yeah. It's like you better adapt. Yeah. You know, you better get used to this. See? It won't hurt you. Over on the Delta flyer, Narok is finding particles from the attack. And these particles are gonna allow him to use his instrument to reveal what the beneath look like.

And what they look like has tentacles. They're fucked up, man. Yeah. Can we use this tech to reveal cloak chips? That's a Janeway asks. Seems like a great working theory. It does. Yeah. He's brought his virtual boy over and is working with seven and the captain and seven is able to like up the intensity of his gadget. So they're pretty hopeful that they'll be able to take this and apply it to a bigger system

like the deflector array. Janeway's been away from Tom Mervyn's for a long time. I think she's well-versed in upping the intensity of her gadgets by now, right? Yeah, I'm out of use. We get a check in with the doctor who is, you know, talking about how two-vox brain is sort of rewiring itself, trying to form new pathways around whatever got damaged. And the doctor doesn't really know if it's what he's doing or what Nelix is doing that's helping two-vox get better.

We see a schematic on the computer that sort of shows the parts of two Vox brain and the ways that the new pathways are being built. For example, the part of two Vox brain that selects people that he'd want to be around has been totally fucked up. So that filtration process that a person would do to ordinarily be like Nelix is someone I just want to get a meal from, not have a meal with. Right. Like, suddenly that's part of the brain that is really messed up,

and it's figuring out a new way to do things, and that really is the reason for everything that follows in this episode. That really is. The idea is like we need to expose to Voktu familiar sights and sounds and no more people that he hates because that's clearly slowing things down. So. Want me to break the episode right now, Ben?

Why doesn't someone meld him? Whoa. Kind of feels like a meld situation would be on the table, right? Does Vorik even live on Starship Voyager anymore? I don't know. Vorik is story convenience. Yeah. Instead, what they do is walk two vach onto the bridge

and two vach is in like civilian clothes, and you know, walks in with the wide eyes of a child, but is shown over to the tactical station where he starts pushing buttons. He wesslies up there on the bridge, doesn't he? I guess he does. He wesslies, and Deli almost fires the torpedoes that they have very few left of This scene made me think of something really specific about Having a normal job and that is did you ever work in a job Where someone left as a co-worker like they got another job they went elsewhere Yeah, but then for whatever reason they came back to visit or say hire whatever like have lunch With a friend or coworker and they're walking through. They're like a ghost person

Like what are you doing here? Yeah, you left Stay away and for some reason they want to like see their old desk or something. Yeah, no It doesn't matter. I feel like the couple of times that I've had jobs for like actual companies, I have mostly been at like pretty fucked up companies and there've been a lot of like empty desks or like desks where there's like evidence

that somebody used to use it, but doesn't anymore. Like a Brooks was here desk? Right, yeah. And like my wife's job, like, you know, she changed jobs kind of recently. And like she has changed jobs frequently and often the past few years that like she never really like sets up her office or whatever.

And so like she works in these very impersonal spaces. So whatever arrangements she makes, don't tend to last very long, is that a you'd describe her? Yeah, they tend to be sort of fleeting in a way that I find unnerving, I would say. So like if you were, for example, to take her to her workplace,

there wouldn't be any personal effects, there wouldn't be familiar sights and sounds. There would not be a picture of you or to round. No. It could be anyone's desk. Yeah. An employee without ties or obligations. Right.

Yeah. A real, you know, rogue operator, if you will. Captain the cap, and Jane Maul, the U.S.S.S. Forthest, and Captain the cap, and Jane Maul, the U.S.S. Forthest, and Do it, Do it, Do it, Do it, Do it, Do it, Do it, Do it, Do it, Do it, Do it, Do it, Do it, Do it, Do it, Do it, Do it, Do it, Do it, Do it, Do it, Do it, Do it, Do it, Do it, Do it, Do it, Do it, Do it, Do it, Do it, Do it, Do it, Do it, Do it, Do it, Do it, Do it, Do it, Do it, Do it, Do it, Do it, Do it, Do it, Do it, Do it, Do it, Do it, Do it, Do it, Do it, Do it, Do it, Do it, Do it, Do it, Do it, Do it, Do it, Do it, Do it, Do it, Do it, Do it, Do it, Do it, Do it, Do it, Do it, Do it, Do it, Do it, Do it, Do it, Do it, Do it, Do it, Do it, Do it, Do it, Do it, Do it, Do it, Do it, Do it, Do it, Do it, Do it, Do it, Do it, Do it, Do it, Do it, Do it, Do it, Do it, Do it, Do it, Do it, Do it, Do it, Do it, Do it, Do it, Do it, Do it, Do it, Do it, Do it, Do it, Do it, Do it, Do it, Do it, Do it, Do it, Do it, Do it, Do it, Do it, Do it, Do it, Do it, Do right because all of his personal shit still in six Bay. Neelix is like, you must remember this, right? And it's just a regular ass hotel room style quarters.

Why isn't this working? It should look more burgled. Yeah, because Neelix just came in and like helped himself to a bunch of shit. He would have been great if like Neelix confides. You know, I've been staying in here since you've been in six Bay. You got a bigger tub than I do. It's a much better room. So they're down there when they test the neuroc inspired modifications they've made to the deflector dish.

And up on the bridge when this deflector pulse happens. They see that there is a cloak chip like right in front of them and not only right in front of them, but all around them. They're fucking surrounded. And these ships do not take kindly to being exposed and start licking shots at the Voyager. This is a great moment. I love the scope of the problem that's revealed here.

It's not just an isolated ship or couple ships, it's a fleet. And they don't want to be hailed. That's pretty clear. It's really like be careful what you wish for. Like modify the deflector at your own risk. Kind of a situation. Yeah.

The bangers that are getting dropped are even happening in two Vox quarters. And two Vox may have had his brain mostly wiped, but he does remember basic earthquake safety. Right. And he climbs under a table. He remembers that the instructions were to get near something dull and expendable. I'm here with you. Everything is going to be all right. After they're out of danger,

he reveals that he also has remembered how to speak English. Yeah. The strategy that Janeway has on the bridge is like, as the ship scatter, she goes to follow one. Yeah. And they lose their tail on the one ship they were after by the time it's all over. The Benethor fast as hell, what the fuck? Yeah. It's very frustrating. Yeah. So, Tuvac is talking to Nelix and I got the feeling

that he was sort of like imprinted on Nelix, like a duckling at this point. Right. He's like, the only place I really feel safe is in the presence of Nelix. The idea of Tuvac being skinny Lenny is most apparent here, right? You know what Vulcan's are capable of. And when Tuvac starts speaking in his manner of speech, I mean, I can see no other conclusion to the episode than Tuvac hugging Nelix to death or something. Lennie Tuvac just wants to live off the fat of the land, you know.

Is Nelix going to be the one to shoot him in the back of the head by the end of this experience? And I get the tendorab. God, that would be dark. Yeah. So Nurak and Nelix have a meeting with Janeway and Nurak is like, this guy is talking again and the particular details of the cloaking frequency may be still in his head and I got to find out what he saw what he remembers right and he looks at sort of arguing the other side of this like he's saying like don't interrogate him

right now he's very fragile he's he's a simple like he just keeps talking about fat in the land and like pet and mice and stuff like he's not ready you can tell Janeway has grown a lot this season because her instinct up top in terms of interrogating Tuvak is opening up a portal for the skinny sliders to come through. And she's just about to do that before she's like, no, that's not me anymore. That was that one episode. And we've moved past it. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah.

And then she's like turns to Nelix and she's like, why do you have your one hand in a glove? Then they pan over to Chico Tay at a pencil in his hand. Did he steps? Too much has been sitting on the floor outside of Janeway's office this whole time. I compared him to a puppy in an earlier scene and this is maybe the most puppy-ish of Toovock here. Just the curled up by a door, waiting for his master to come back. I guess is Neelix?

He feels safe around Neelix, but not around Neuroch. And not about Janeway, right? Yeah. They bring him in and sit him down at Janeway's desk. And Janeway sort of leaning over him and Neuroch gets in his nook and they start trying to ask him about what he remembers from being attacked. As I say this, I realize that Nurok is just a contraction of nook and two-vok. You don't want to see the back of him getting into two-vok's nook. That's the worst part. So it's all been building to this. Yeah. and two vox no, that's the worst part. So it's all been building to this. Yeah.

But two vox doesn't have anything of particular value to them. Like they hand him the fried tricorder and it just kind of like takes him back to like a trauma memory and he drops it and freaks out and he looks puts the kai bha shan, the proceedings. This is a scene two where, like you know that moment when you hear an aging family member isn't doing well,

and then you finally see them and you're like, you go in with the positivity of someone who is there to bring positivity to a moment that everyone seems to know a little better than you do, like people who have been caring for them. This is that moment for Janeway who's talking to him with kindness and in sort of an expectation about like having a hang later or whatever. And sad moment when Janeway is like, I'd love to make it up to you by taking you out to

lunch. And unfortunately, Nielix is the only person that Tuvac likes lunching with. Yeah. Like it's only a second, but it's really sad. It really is. They do try to cheer him up with some calto, and some Kim, and Nielix hang out with him later, and some Kim is teaching teaching you know like the

the student has become the master kind of way like here's how calto works you love this game as the ship's stick man you know i love to play games involving so many sticks right tovok and that's usually a joke that tovok loves, but not this time. This version of Tuvak thinks that the jumbled mess of Calto is preferable to a perfect sphere. I like the way it looks now. We have to talk about this at some point, And I think it's probably now. But the performance of simple Tuvak as a kind of like what tug speedmen would do in order to win an Oscar. That's all for Goni. It's such a line, right? Right. It's such a line to be wary of if you're an actor. And I want to be clear, like I think Tim Russ

stays opposite the simple Jack line. But that thought was ever present in my mind as the episode went on, you know? Right, because like, I think that recovering from injury, like I'm a little bit spaced out and not all there is different from, I'm too dumb to go back to work now. I'm so glad you made that distinction because I think they are distinct.

Like what we're seeing here is different from simple Jack in some very specific ways. Yeah. I mean also Tim Russ isn't playing this as a joke either. No, yeah. And that helps. Yeah't playing this is a joke either no yeah, and that helps Like when he rage quits calto. It's not played for laughs. It's played for yeah This is a character in pain. I don't like this game Instant Kim usually doesn't last that long playing calto, huh?

And I lasted 22 minutes good for him. Yeah, nice work, Gensokim. Later in 6 Bay, I want to call him simple Tuvak to make him distinct from pre-accident Tuvak. Is that mean? Is it mean or is it funny? That's the ultimate greatest gen question. That's the question. I mean, I was writing dumb two-vac in my notes and I feel like that's like objectively mean.

Yeah, that's way worse. I'm going to go with simple two-vac and I'm just going to get the letters. Listen, Bill is going to get the letters, you know? Bill gets them first, so consider that before you send him. We know it's bad, we know it's not nice. Also like offer me and then a little bit of grace and a little bit of the benefit of the doubt on how we're describing people based on our reputations

in the past of being generally people who learn and are nice and kind. Okay, okay. We're just trying to come up with a nickname for somebody who has had severe brain damage. Okay. Hey, Ben, if I ever suffer from severe brain damage, you can absolutely fucking call me simple Adam. And I hope you do. You don't think I already call you simple Adam behind your back. God, I'm positive you do. That is, God, as soon as I finish speaking, like I could just see the whiffle ball, lazily heading for your strike zone. Oh yeah, I really ding that over the back fence.

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I'm giving you an order. They have underserved it. I'm giving you an order. I'm giving you an U.F. Just crossed the line. So simple two Vact tells three legs about what he he's he's learned about himself reading his own file and he is at least with it enough to recognize that he is not the same man today. He's not complicated to Vac anymore. No.

I can't even play Calto. He is frustrated and emotional also and we haven't seen him meditate what? He has freshened up zero candles and he doesn't have the like Vulcan control stuff and we've heard a little bit of talk about this like he's experiencing all these emotions and this is the big scene where he, you know, like he didn't like the calto, but he really doesn't like the idea that he is diminished in the way that he has been. And there's a glass table in the scene

with a bunch of his belongings on it. And it seems inevitable what's gonna happen to this glass table. Yeah. It is fucking shocking and it seems inevitable what's gonna happen to this glass table. It is fucking shocking that he upends this thing and it does not shatter. It's made of tough stuff. What the hell?

Do you think they were expecting it to go and it just didn't? Either that or they went down to like a hockey arena and were like, what is the glass made of around here that the guys like check each other into? Cause like we want some of that. If I worked on Star Trek and the scene called for a glass table to be flipped and during that scene it did not break

and the director in this case, Roxanne Dawson's like, all right, that's the print, moving on. I don't know if I would like want this prop around at all. I feel like it could explode at any moment. Yeah. Like an unexploded bomb. Yeah, oh yeah, it's like a no. Farmer in a French field, finding ordinance

from World War One. Yeah, I don't think it's safe to be around this table anymore. Yeah, you got to call like professionals to come deal with this thing. Yeah. This is a scene that ends poorly for them both. Tuvaks shoves Nelix and the doctor has to tell him to leave for his own safety. The doctor can be shoved and not hurt.

Yeah. Shove him all you want. Speaking of glass, seven is staring out of the bum out window in Nelix's restaurant after hours when Nelix comes in. Seven is really pondering the like, how do you find people with advanced cloaking technology problem?

And you think that like Nelix, you know, like sometimes the fool will say the thing that makes the smart person realize that they've been thinking too inside the box in some critical way and it'll crack the code. You've been thinking too smart about this. You know, like me and you on this show. Right.

Instead, it is seven that helps Nelix in this moment. Wow. Don't give up on TuVoc. Keep working with him. But also, don't try to bring back the old TuVoc. Try to show him how to be a new TuVoc, a simpler TuVoc. You think the Borgs ever gave up on the idea of LeCutus? Hell no!

Trust me. The opposite. That shit's gonna to come around. It may not be now. It may not be 10 years from now, but in between 20 and 30 years from now, it's going to be a thing. And it will change my career. I don't know about yours, Nelix.

It'll be great for me. Yeah, so the advice is like, you know, Tuvac is changed, has gone through a fundamental change. I like the brutality of Seven's advice here, though, too, right? Like, she's not exactly right, either. Like, Seven is fitting round patients into cube shaped holes by going like, you know, I was damaged by the borgs and I figured it out. Like, too bad can do the same. I mean, but you would do that, right?

Because it's round escape pods that fit into cube shaped ships. So, you know. See what you did, you just explained the entire thing to a simple FOD. Mm-hmm. First boss I ever had. I'm down to the bottom of my hoof, man. I can't help it.

Oh, I'm almost there too. This is great. So in Six Bay, Nelix arrives reinvigorated and with a fresh perspective, two vacas there where I guess he's been living, he continues to live in Six Bay, maybe. Well his stuff is there, you know. He spent enough time there to be making origami flowers. Yeah, he's made a wax flower for Nelix and this thing is great and Nelix is like so impressed by

the act of creativity that True Life has done. He should be more impressed by the really great apology. I Shouldn't have shouted at you. I was angry. I'm sorry. This is not a big city apology at all. This is great. This is Quad box like I actually talked to a crisis PR firm and like had help writing this kind of apology. Oh, I wouldn't say that. I wouldn't say apologies or that great when that happens. This is a sincere apology.

And unlike before, where I think maybe it was the newness of what Tim Russ was doing that made me feel weird. I think Tim Russ's takes here are magical. And the way his voice has changed is maybe the most apparent in this scene because he has the most to say. But that combined with how his face seems to have changed, like he's also smiling more. I like to smile. Me too. He feels more natural in the situation that he finds himself in. And I don't know, man. I like this two-buck. He seems cool.

It's a really weird acting challenge, I think, because it's... I think a lot of the time in Star Trek, when a character is asked to play a different version of their character, it's like, amp up one part, or be kind of a caricature of something, or play sex worker in the old west version of yourself or whatever, and this is like strip away all the sophistication and control of your character and be like a really like affable dumb version of your character.

And like, how the fuck do you ever do that? How did you do that? I don't know how to do that. I don't know. I wouldn't know how to play an unsavisticated dumb as what I'm saying. And I'm really impressed. I mean, I think there's 500 episodes of evidence of that, Ben. Yeah.

At least. Yeah. At least. And so this inspires Nelix to suggest that Tuvac explore more of his creative side, and we smash cut to the results of that in the restaurant where Tuvac has become the pastry chef of the ship. He's made a Ziggy Piggy for Tom and Harry. The single greatest ice cream spectacle known to man. Who think it tastes great and they're like really impressed with the ingredient combos.

He's a real like chat GPT for dessert recipes. Yeah, sure seems that way. I mean, it's not just that he enjoys the process of this. It's that the process has yielded successful results. And that's almost a relief, right? It's not like, cool, we can put two vicks to work in the mess hall, scrubbing pots and pans, and like at least he's got a job, at least like, he's off doing something.

Right. Like, it's a way to keep him central as a character if this is how it goes for him. And when Janeway walks in, she's, I mean, everyone knows this. She's the final word on souffle quality. Oh, that is delicious. I'm pleased that you like it. She fucking loves it. It thinks it's slapped.

She's like, I like this as much as I like vegetable broth. And that's a lot. Is there a way you could turn this souffle into broth in one of your weird flavor and texture combinations? She really sneaks this question in sideways. Like she's like enjoying her souffle and and just kind of like apropos of nothing is like hey by the way Do you remember anything about that extremely shitty and upsetting memory that like almost sent you into apoplectic Shock before when we asked you There's coffee and what happened on the flyer. I didn't like this moment at all for Janeway. It seemed mean, right?

It did it It really did. And like if it were someone besides Tuvac here or the simplified version of Tuvac, I feel like they would have clapped back at her pretty hard. But it's bad, it scares him. There's an amazing shot of Nielix like turning and looking like at the back of Janeway's head with like betrayal in his eyes.

Yeah. When she does this. He can't quite articulate what he hears and she's like, okay, I'm sorry, I'm sorry, I did that. I didn't mean to like make you feel uncomfortable, man. And he uses the like piping bag to put a sine wave on the top of the cake that he's icing. He's roped all over the cake, then. I guess you can say I sex it it up for you. No extra charge. And this is the cloaking frequency. Yeah, so he couldn't access this information directly.

That would be too traumatic. This was in the underneath, and it came out on the frosting. So many things come out in the frosting in that way. And it's delicious. They've analyzed this frosting, they have the beneth cloaking frequency and now they're using it to search a few places in the galaxy. with a lot of other people. And I think that's the most important thing that I've ever seen. I think that's the most important thing that I've seen. And I think that's the most important thing that I've seen.

And I think that's the most important thing that I've seen. And I think that's the most important thing that I've seen. And I think that's the most important thing that I've seen. And I think that's the most important thing that I've seen. And I think that's the most important thing that I've seen. And I think that's the most important thing that I've seen. And I think that's the most important thing that I've seen. And I think that's the most important thing that I've seen. And I think that's the most important thing that I've seen. be something else. Yeah, and they do their deflector pulse, and this reveals a giant space station.

Nurrox on the bridge, and they're like getting ready to start talking to the station when the banger start getting dropped on Voyager. And Janeway gets them to stop by saying, like, hey, I'm going to dox you. I'm going to post your address on the internet if you don't stop shooting at us. Yeah, that gets their attention. Yeah. They actually wanna talk now. Don't dox people, Janeway.

Yeah. So she's not all the way better in terms of what she would do to manipulate people to get her way, right? Right? Ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha How not only make it possible for people to know where you are, you'll really enjoy meeting skinny slammers. Yeah. So she is prepared to offer them tactical data on other people that they've met around here.

Yeah. She seems fucked up. Don't like that. I hope it's only assholes that they've met. Like not. It's not tactical data of like the good people. What's interesting here is what Nirok doesn't this scene, right? Yeah. The Beneth is like, we can't trust anyone and we definitely can't trust fucking Nirok.

Like his people might think him a fool and like the butt of a joke. Yeah. But like, I don't like that guy and I hope he continues to be that. But Nirok himself makes himself trustworthy by sweetening the deal with his own technology. He's like, look, I will undo utterly what Janeway is threatening to do, and then you can be safe, right? And that's what makes the Benethic accept the deal. Yeah, he's gonna give his photo-olithic converter technology

to them, and they'll be able to further conceal themselves. And it's a bad deal for him because like he will go back and have nothing to prove all of the shit he's been saying. Like his boss is going to be like, so how'd that go? And it'd be like, I mean, I could tell you, but you're like, there will be no evidence to corroborate what I say. And meanwhile, here's Naraq walking around with this photolithic converter that can see through cloaks,

see through probably lots of things. And what's going on here seems pretty pervy, doesn't it? What does that make the Beneth at this point? But by then, Janeway has seen everything. She's seen it all, and the Beneth accept the deal. And in two Vax quarters, we find two Vax listening to jazz. In the way that I think we all did before a trip to the water park,

get yourself ready for the scary water chutes. Yeah, and Nelix is like here to sort of break the bad news that they got information from the Beneth that the doctor can use to reverse the neural trauma that Tuvac has undergone. This is the two Vicks moment right here. Yeah. And for these two characters to not discuss that at all, is it just Neelix knowing that Tuvac wouldn't get the reference? I think it's partly that and partly that simple Tuvac is too nice and too simple to rage out against this,

because it's very clear that SimpleTuvac wants to be SimpleTuvac. And a few hours, you'll be yourself again. I am myself. SimpleTuvac would never have a scene at the end of Tuvacs where Tuvacs like point at the finger at everyone, murdering him. Yeah.

SimpleTuvac instinctively knows this is wrong, but doesn't have the confidence to say this is wrong. Yeah, simple two-vacs just following orders. Available now in PondChap.biz, the hashtag, justwe2vacshirt, and also the hashtag, justweSimple2vacshirt. Yeah, I like that. That'll be great.

Can we make those mugs? I think that'd be a good mug too. Yeah, the graphic will be available on lots of different types of products. Okay. Pot shop dot biz. I think two-vox tragically has arrived at a point where he's comfortable with who he is. And that's a point that I hope to arrive at at some point in my life.

He's all right with that. And he doesn't take the news of being turned into the previous version of TuVak as a positive development for him at all. It really doesn't. It's bad. He wants to have fun. TuVak doesn't have fun. Simple TuVak does.

Simple TuVak has a ton of fun. Yeah. Love's dessert. Yeah. They taste good. But Nielix reassures him. The thing is, simple Tuvac, you will still experience emotions

when we fix you up. It's just in a very vulcan way. And he's not wrong about this, right? Like, all Vulcans experience emotions. It's just what they do vulcan way, and he's not wrong about this, right? Like all Vulcans experience emotions. It's just what they do with them. That makes the difference. The argument that the crew needs to Vach also, one that was leveled against two vicks. He needs the many's simple two Vach here in a pretty astounding form of that argument.

Yeah. two-vac here, and a pretty astounding form of that argument. Yeah. I think that one of the most interesting fears that simple two-vac has is they like, I want to still be pals when this is over. Isn't it weird though that that doesn't quite read on Nelix the way you might hope? Like as far as friends go, he doesn't have many. Things have been going great here. Like it is a tragedy for Nelix too, but Nelix puts on that stiff upper lip like he's, as badly as he's wanted to be a security officer and as much as simple Tuvak represents a way to become one, he limits himself in careers by writing for this and limits himself socially, right?

I think that is low key the worst part of this episode because he's basically saying like you're not as valuable a friend to me as regular edition 2Voc is a asset to the ship. You're too simple for me to be like that worried about losing as a friend. This is almost like the way we were a couple of years into greatest gen. Like, you remember how like we were friendly,

but we were not like really good friends because we did not want to destroy the show. But now we're friends. Yeah. Now if our friendship goes away, the show definitely goes away. I was talking to my wife about this recently. She was like, you guys have really like,

you're really like getting vulnerable with each other. You know, you like show each other your dark sides now. In a way that's like really intense. I mean, that's great for the show, right? Oh, it's good stuff. It's all about what's best for the show, Ben. Yeah. So, uh, let's take him down to six Bay and undo the effects of the Beneth beam. And we get a little, a little button on the episode. Regular edition, Tuvac, cleared for duty by the M.H. as back in uniform and comes down and sits at an empty

table in Nielix's restaurant. And Nielix sort of gets to test like how much their friendship has vanished. I think Tuvac is a dick, and here's why. It doesn't matter whether or not you subscribe to Logic Rules Everything Around Me. Leave me get the money, dollar dollar bill. Because I think it is logical to, after this procedure is done, I don't think his mind has been wiped, his memories are still there of what happened. You got a roll up to Nelix and thank him for what he did for you.

I think it is messed up that two Vock walks around the ship like everything's fine and completely neglects to recognize the solid that Neelix did for him. And like makes Neelix roll up to him in the mess hall. I think that's a dick move by Tuvac, and I don't think it has anything to do with logic. Do you think that his like tagging Neelix's riddle joke, though, is like the metaphorical version of that by giving Neelix another punchline for his bit,

does two-vox sort of... I think that's like the thing that abusive relationships are, which is like dickhead, dickhead, dickhead, and then like a little bit of kindness every once in a while is all of a sudden like, you just don't know him like I do. When he gives me another tag for my riddle, it's like so special. Yeah, it's not.

It's about him. Wow. The show believes something differently about Tuvac than I do in this moment. Which is like, isn't it great that Tuvac has chosen his life of deprivation once again? And the invitation to help prepare desserts at a party in his honor is meant to be a symbol

for what this is, that Tuvac is back. Tuvac is back and dessert is off the menu, boys. Yeah, sure is. Well, I think we know how you feel about Tuvac, but how do you feel about this episode, Adam? You know, I'm really easy to get along with, most of the time, but I don't like bullet, I don't like bread, and I don't like you.

I really like this too. I really like talking about it, and it's one of those like mind-bending, start-track episodes that is like, a great conversation starter. Yeah. A great argument starter really. Thought it was a great first direct-to-er-all effort from Roxanne Dawson like I like the book ending of the

Top Down rotating camera shot that mirrors the one in the beginning. I thought that was cool like everything else was like Right down the middle looked looked good, felt good. It's a very actorly episode to be giving to a first time director. Yeah, and I wonder about how, like, if you're not the star of the show, like, Janeway's not in this very much. But like, if it's better for you, as a Roxanne Dawsonson to direct an episode that centers another person on your level in the cast. Instead of like, if you're being made to direct, Kate McGrew the whole time, I don't feel

like that would be as comfortable, you know? Right, right. But as it is, I like seeing Tim Russ this way. I like seeing all the gears of the gearbox for Tim Russ. In this episode, I thought that was good. It's like seeing 150 springs fly out of a watch. Exactly. Sounds like a really bad date.

Sok! Yeah, I mean, if anything, it's just like, this is a show that denies the existence of two vicks the episode even now. Yeah. And it would be so interesting for that moment to be recognized here. So yeah, that's what I think.

What about you, Ben? I think I feel very similarly to you about this episode. I really enjoyed watching it, too. And I definitely felt as I was watching it that there were many, many moments where I felt Tim Russ' performance could have tipped into the like this fucking sucks and is actively bad. And I think that it is kind of remarkable how definitely he rides that line. I didn't make the simple Jack comparison in my head before you brought it up, but I think that that's kind of what it is.

He has to find a way to make a character who is extremely limited in what they can experience and express that doesn't feel like a dunk on that character. I think he did a great job. And I think Roxanne Dawson did a great job directing that performance. Yeah. Well, Adam, do you want to go into the priority one inbox and see if there's anything simple in there?

Hopefully, there are all messages at a reading level above where Tubaq was at for most of this episode. Priority one message from Starfleet coming in on Secured Channel. Need a supplement on it. A supplement on it? A supplement. A supplement. Yes, extra.

The interest alone could be enough to buy this ship. Adam, our first priority one message is from Ford and SC in his tandem and band and it goes like this. I discovered TGG about six months ago and after a few apps I realized that if I didn't start from episode 1 I'd miss half the jokes. I finished TNG and I'm halfway through DS9. Thanks to TGG, my wife finally watches TNG by choice. She didn't really care about Trek but enjoys bad wigs, reused

sets, and clever critique. Thanks for all the great pod! God, what must it be like to be married to a person that also wants to listen to your podcast? Amazing. You know, this message made me think of the greatest generation podcast wiki, which has been around for years and years, greatestgen.fandom.com is where you can make sure you're current on all the jokes we tell, updated even recently, like with references from Biffie Eggers Regional Ice Complex, and podcast of the dead Like, great works being done over there. Wow, that's awesome. And if you're confused about any kind of jokes, here's where you find out.

That's great. Our recent stream, which I think will still be available as of the release of this day. If you still want to catch the re-encounter at far point, it's still available at greatestjentour.com. But my wife was like, we should do something for the premiere. Like, you know, have Adam and his wife over it, like have a little gathering and, you know, do it up, like have a little celebration. And I was like, I don't think you or Adam's wife

would enjoy like the actual show. Now, not at all. Wouldn't happen. That's why something else. Yeah, can we put something else on? But yeah, thank you for it in SC and thanks to your spouse as well. Ben our second priority when message is from Mike, son of Fred, it is to Jack, son of Fred.

The message goes like this. I may have dishonored the house of Fred by submitting this request to late. How could I have forgotten my brother's birthday? I hope your birthday was glorious. May you continue to slay your enemies on the tennis court or whatever field of battle you choose. One of the rare current voices I managed to get through without spontaneously crying or voice cracking. Ben, I've recently asked, friend of DeSoto Chris Karaba, for vocal exercise advice.

Oh, wow. Because he's a guy that like, his singing style is very intense. There's a lot to it. Yeah, no kidding. And I'm like, I would love a couple of things that I could do before a show to like, make sure I don't get into coughing spasms or start crying. As I did at the re-encounter at far point.

Yeah. And I'm gonna work on some stuff, thanks to him. Are you gonna start having like, honey tea before we go on stage or something like that? If that ends up being the secret, I'll be a little disappointed. Like, I actually want to do a thing, you know? But yeah, I mean, whatever it is,

I'm willing to try it, cause friends of DeSoto are worth it. They're worth our shitty impressions. So that one goes out to Mike Sonofred. Yeah, happy birthday, Jack Sonofred. It looks like we did miss your birthday by more than a couple of months, but I

Think the house of Fred is in good standing as of this. I think so too Yeah, you know, this puts them back in the in the good column honor wise hope so Well, if you have a priority when message that maybe even includes a character impression I'm getting better and better at doing those Even includes a character impression. I'm getting better and better at doing those. You get a maximum fun.org slash, jumbo-tron. To submit yours today, getting the cue. The line is long, but it's not too long.

Yeah, it's worth standing in. Yeah. Hey, Ben. What's that, Adam? Did you find yourself a drunk Shimoda? A red-o-mo. Drunk Shimoda! Oh man, I think I'm gonna give it to Nurok.

I like that Nurok is just like a... He's just like, hey man, I'm really glad to be here and like do my project with you guys. Like, nothing stressing Nurok out. Nurok is interested the whole time and then Neuroch is prepared to throw himself entirely under the bus that just have the knowledge that he was right all along. I wish we got the post script to Neuroch, also Neuroch is my drug smoto. But like that, he pulled it off, and this whole thing worked, and he has ascended the company that he works for,

or like the political organization he's a part of. I could have hung out with him for just a moment longer. Like in the way that, what was the episode with Kurt Wood Smith and the hair doll and the time ship and all that? Right, right. You remember that post script to that episode where we see him in a timeline where all that shit doesn't happen,

but it seems pretty inevitable that it will. Right. This is a show that's capable of giving us a post script side story about a non-cast character that has a post show life. I wonder about him a lot, and I hope he's okay, and I think he is. I hope he's okay, but I also like the idea that he goes back and it's like, yeah,

that didn't pan out, and like, nothing I can tell you would make you feel like this was worth it at all. Well, that's just it, right? Because he gave away the technology that would have given him that promotion. Yeah. So it's unclear, isn't it, whether or not, like there's that space in So it's unclear, isn't it, whether or not like there's that space

in between the giving of and the species using it to further obscure themselves that like, right. Maybe that doesn't benefit him at all. It probably doesn't. Could Voyager have given him like some kind of record to take back and show his boss to show that this was something. Naraq, thank you for your help. Here is a 2VHS cassette of what you've done here. And then his boss is like, you gave the photo, did it? Scanner?

Away? Are you fucking, we just find out that these guys actually existed, you gave that away? These guys have tentacles. You're gonna kill someone! Well, that was a ton of fun to do, Adam. I'm all out of hoof drink and... Me too. Right on time, I think. I decided not to get into my tequila beverage,, which was I was taking a car home from the airport And they gave me this tequila beverage, but I got one of those two. Oh, yeah, I didn't drink it in the car

I was just to yeah, I was too tired. I was too everything to drink in the car, but Yeah, I'm gonna throw it back in the fridge save it for another day. Yeah. The next episode of Star Trek Voyager Adam is season six episode seven, Dragon's Teeth, mysterious corridors in space lead to the discovery of an ancient civilization. Hmm. Do you remember this episode? Is this a familiar ancient civilization? This is not a familiar ancient civilization. But, uh...

All right. What is familiar is the game of buttholes. This is not a familiar ancient civilization. But, uh... All right. What is familiar is the game of butthole. The will of the caretaker, where our runabout is all the way down on square 12, after having gone through a space butthole. I did that. I did that, uh, I'm sorry. It's okay.

It happens. I'm going to, uh, set us up for a die roll. Uh, it looks like the only thing we could hit is a quartz bar, which would be pretty intense follow-up to what we've done here today. Hahaha. It's a lot of fun. Oh yeah, that's great. You're required to learn as you play roll.

I feel like Renee Russo in 10 Cup, like just... just roll it, Ben. Ha ha ha ha. Alright. I think I hit some kind of a glitch because I went back up the space butthole. You can do that? I'm on square 50 now. Tula!

Did I win? Hardly. What? I don't know. I don't know how to explain what just happened. I didn't think that these space but holes were bi-directional. Wow. But apparently this one was.

What? Yeah. I think that's great. Yeah, like no notes. Yeah, let's not change this at all. The bug is good. Yeah, but it is definitely a bug Okay, yeah, square 50 fun stuff We will have a regular episode next week and I am looking forward to it

Yeah, you and me both Ben. I also look forward to the support we get every month at maximum fun dot org slash join Yeah, it's a way we can continue to live. It's a way that Wendy can continue to live. And it is so appreciated by all of us here at XbridgeModa. It really is. We also appreciate the music made for us by Adam Rcusea, who has a great podcast of his own. Adam Rcusea podcast. I forgot to take my broad, Ben. Have you taken your broad? I have not taken my broad. All right, I'm gonna do that. Do that right now.

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