The Greatest Generation - Snitches Get Cryostitches (VOY S3E13)

Episode Date: February 21, 2022

When the illusion of Neelix’s utility to the mission is finally shattered, he turns to crime to secure his position. But when an alien drug dealer’s murder implicates the Voyager crew, they might lose their supply of some of the Delta Quadrant’s best party drugs. Is becoming Tuvix worse than going to jail? Where on the doll can you find Pergeum? Is Tom Paris really just Nicholas Locarno? It’s the episode where quick’s the word and sharp’s the action!Exchange scarves for goods at PodShop.bizSupport the production of The Greatest Generation.Friends of DeSoto for Democracy.Friends of DeSoto for Justice.Follow The Game of Buttholes: The Will of the Caretaker!Music by Adam Ragusea & Dark MateriaFollow The Greatest Generation on Twitter, and discuss the show using the hashtag #GreatestGen!The Greatest Generation is now regularly streaming on Twitch.Facebook group | Subreddit | Discord | WikiSign up for our mailing list!

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You hear a lot, like my friends with kids have a lot of descriptions for the ages that children go through and sort of derisive terms for them like terrible twos. Oh Really terrible threes Terrifically terrible fours. What what have you so so what's the thing for for sixes? Hmm. Is that a thing? Trixi sixes they're always trying to trick you. Yeah, maybe that's it. I think that's all it needs to be. I think, I mean, our podcast isn't trying to trick anyone. We try to be pretty, pretty square with what we're presenting here. It's nice to be reminded of like, I forget things almost

immediately after I do them. Our show is maybe the greatest example of that. As soon as we turn it off, I like listen to the show and knew when I go to edit it. It's nice to be reminded of all the weird fucked up crazy things that our show has done over six years. We've done a lot of damage in that amount of time. Yeah, we've broken a lot of Lego sets, broken a lot of hearts, broken a lot of minds. Busted up a lot of green rooms, mispronounced a lot of Lego sets, broken a lot of hearts, broken a lot of minds. Busted up a lot of green rooms. Mispronounced a lot of dinosaur names. Ankulas or? Eight a lot of hummus.

So much hummus. Yeah. So much hummus. So many giant ribs and... And backstage tequila's, onstage tequila's, tandem bicycles. God, what else else we broke up the friendship between Razz and Plavim and then put it back together again. Yeah, just for sport We've we've been all over this great country bringing the gospel of greatest Jen people

Never a bad show from us. I'd say. Never, we haven't had one bad life. Oh. We've never missed a Monday. Also, I think that might be the thing I'm most proud of. Yeah. And a weird, and like a fucked up way, is that like never missed one, always on time. I was at a backyard barbecue over the weekend

and somebody was asking me about what I do and I was saying that I have a podcast and they're like, oh, how often you have to do that? And I was like, every week. They're like, really? So you, you were at least 52 episodes a year. And I was like, yeah, without fail. Yeah. I mean, it used to be way more. Back before we had the greatest discovery and we were dropping two greatest gins. That was 104 episodes, that first year that we were doing it. That was Domus Hill.

You know what, but it was worth it because it got us to where we are today. Now we're in syndication. Yeah. Yeah. Getting that syndication check. And the male is pretty nice. Of course you got to cut it in half and give that other half to Jesse.

Right. It keeps 50% of the syndication money. He drives a hard bargain. Goes right up the old schnauz on Jesse Thorn. Yeah. Yeah, that's why I cut the check in half the long way to give him a longer straw. Hey, I got a question. Okay. You got invited to a backyard barbecue or did you host one? We got invited to. We have some friends here in the neighborhood who spent a little bit of time in Texas and picked up the barbecue bug when they were living there. This was a college roommate of my wife's who was a vegetarian when she met him and is now like a,

he will decide that morning to go to Costco and buy all the meats and throw a rib fest in his backyard that evening. And this was rib fest that you went to? Yeah, and I was pissed because we had a dinner rest with another friend. So, this is the thing I always say is the worst thing in the world is surprise barbecue that is free. Because I want an appetite.

I want to be able to tuck into the barbecue. My mind's camera is moving like on steady cam through the party goers in this backyard. And finally landing on you, the arms crossed, leaning against defense. So angry. I had one rib, but I didn't want to spoil my supper. So I held it at that. Wow. And really good. This dude knows his way around an offset smoker. I'll tell you what? Ribs are a great party food. Yeah. Good for a gathering. Yeah. What did you bring? We just brought a bottle of wine. We were only there for like an hour. We didn't even really get to do anything.

Oh, so you moderated the gift based on length of time spent? This is kind of a good strategy. I think we would have brought a bottle of wine either way. So if you were staying for like an even shorter amount of time, you would have brought like the little bottle of wine like the airplane size. Yeah. Have you ever gotten along so good with the flight attendants that they give you a bag of wine

to take off the plane? That sounds like a story, Adam. Oh, I mean, this is one of the trips that my wife and I took many years ago. We were just like, having a good time, I think this was to Europe or back from Europe. It had to be to Europe because it doesn't make any sense to party as hard as we did coming back. There's one of those situations where it was just a couple of cool people being cool to the people working there. And before you know it, you're being given a bag of plain wine

to take with you for your travels. And'll tell you something man. I know you and I it's kind of an open secret that like wine is different on a plane like it's actually they choose a wine based on. The choose a big wine. It being consumed on a plane and I had thought that maybe the wine would not be good not on the plane. Right. But it was great. Hey, that's great. Plain wine is good. You don't need a plane for it. I love it. It was big.

I love hearing a story. The last time a flight attendant gave me something for free was when I was like a little kid and they thought I was like a charming child and brought me back a warm cookie from the first class section. Yeah, that's nice. That's nice. In every industry that faces customers or the public, I think it's more important than ever

to just be cool as hell. Yeah. And it doesn't matter if you're in a pandemic or not because the story of the plain wine is many years old now. But it's tough stuff. It's tough stuff to be in the air too. Tough stuff to deal with people. Tough stuff to have cranky people to

deal with these days especially. Plain wine cuts both ways though. It can make things better and worse. Yeah, I can really exacerbate the situation. Well, I wish I had some wine to celebrate our six birthday, Adam. I love making this show with you, man. This is a real treat. I do too. It is good to have an anniversary to remind us of of all the good fortune we've had over the years. Yeah, the romance is not dead. How, how'd it all still fucking the show after all these years? Yeah, the show loves it. The show loves that shit. Shows never got a headache. She can't get enough. Keep it down, show.

Yeah, get your mind out of the gutter, the show. I think the neighbors can hear you. Wow, well, do you want to get into the show, Adam? I do. A strange little episode we've got on the Dacquet today at Star Trek Voyage or season three episode 13 Fair Trade certified humane. Reaver course, unless you've got something a little bigger in your torpedo toots.

I'm not turning around. It is take your neelix to work day and two VAC doesn't know it. It is take your Nelix to work day and Tuvac doesn't know it. Yeah, Nelix wanted to, wanted to brush up on being a security officer for some reason. And Tuvac is like, oh, I thought you were speaking in the abstract. And Nelix is like, no, we agreed on this. The show reminds us of how annoying Nelix is, but wouldn't this be fairly pervasive behavior

throughout the ship? Like, aren't there 30 people at least on the ship who are super bored with their jobs who would like nothing more than just to rotate into something else and learn something new? Yeah, I thought about this. I think you gotta be direct though. Like I feel like this scene

sort of makes me think that Nielix is the kind of guy who would invite someone on a date and not be clear that that was what he was doing. And then they would find out they were on a date on the date. Right. Yeah. Yeah. And no one's going to be a better foil semantically than Tuvac here because Tuvac remembers the conversation. He just remembers it the way it was instead of the way Neelix hoped it would be. He was engaging in some wishful thinking, but he's like trying to really make the case for himself now saying he's like, red the instruction manual. And two-vac does not exactly relish the idea of becoming Neelix's direct report. No, but it's been a while since we've gotten a little bit of Tuvac Neelix odd coupling.

Yeah. It made me wonder, Ben, if Tuvac is still doing the Holodeck program. Like does he? Does he do the Choke Out Neelix program at the resort that they've set up in the Holodeck? I'm gonna sing it to you every day from now on. It goes, AHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHH but this is just another run that is favorite game. I wanna go to the Resort program and have two Voc start choking out Nelix, thinking that it's Hollow Nelix.

And it horrifying everyone that, no, it's actually Nelix working behind the bar in the program, because that's what he does. You've screwed up my hurricane for the last time, Mr. Nelix. I distinctly requested pebble ice. So Nielix is kind of spreading it around here. He takes it on over to engineering and lays one on BLT. And BLT kind of gives Nielix the same treatment.

Close your eyes, Ben. I'm going to ask you a question. If you were to step inside the rail in engineering between the rail and the warp core, would you fall down to the bottom of the warp core or not? On the D, yes. On the Voyager, no. The way the scene was blocked, maybe so much anxiety, because of course I was thinking of the D and I obviously have three seasons know what the engineering department in Voyager looks like but when BLT swings her way inside the rail.

No, you have so much to live for BLT. Mealix will leave soon. Yeah, she's looking for a way out here and she doesn't so cool and casual. It was the stone coldest thing she's ever done. I mean, if you're work day involved dealing with Ensenvorek and then Nelix in rapid succession, you might make a similar choice. That's a tough day. It really is. She's having some kind of generic engineering problem. Nelix wants to get involved in helping, but he gets called up to the bridge before he can make too much of a nuisance of himself. And what they have up on the bridge is a big gas cloud in front of the ship. Gas cloud, right ahead.

Gas cloud right ahead You know like they say and and one of the most popular films of all time master and commander the far side of the galaxy right, yeah and Spread out before them been is the necr Spants, which is also what they call the parody porn version of the expanse, right? Right. Yeah. Not streaming on Prime.

No. Definitely not. This is enough. Just the announcement of the Necrotic Spants is enough for the theme music to kick in. After the break, I mean, this is what Neelix is here for, right? Hey, Neelix, we got a thing right ahead Maybe you can you can tell us all about it and Nielix kind of comes up with nothing come on Nielix. It's big Yeah, it's all you got big. It's purple. Yeah, we can see that with our own eyes

He's like I'm There's a space station somewhere around here. Couldn't tell you the coordinates. Oh, yeah, this has been a pretty rough five minutes for Nelix. Yeah, they can't go around it. They're going to have to go through it, but they're going to stop over at this space station to resupply stock up before they travel through this gas cloud. And we pull up to this thing. It's very interesting station design. It kind of reminded me of the International Space Station, all these like modules sticking off a central trunk.

Really smooth looking too, like eight-bit video game smooth. Yeah, yeah, it's a smooth ISS. It's what it does. They get on FaceTime with the station manager. This guy's name is Barat. He's both the station manager and a very creamy type of mozzarella. More like Barat Hussein station manager. Whoa.

Sick burn. He's a bit of an asshole. Kind of weirdly frictions with the way he greets them. Reminding me of the junk yard guy in T.A.D. that had no time for them. Just the bedraggled guy with a job just trying to do his fucking job. And that job would be made easier if people would clip hassle. No. Can't wait and watch a customer beat and I, her ride.

What? What? Can I talk? Yes, this is a trading outpost. Yes, the taxes are 20% on everything. Yeah. You can just stop if you want. Yeah, how pissed can you be if you're pulling 20% rips on everything?

Yeah. Seems like a very high sales tax. It does seem that way. The next scene is Janeway alone walking into Barat's office. And she gives him kind of like a bill of goods that they're looking to obtain. He's not super optimistic about them finding everything, but kind of reminds her of the rules. Like you got to kick back to me 20% on everything, and it seems like we can do business here,

but he's not going to enjoy having this 20% that much. He's like the fucking diner chef and heat, right? Right? This whole scene plays out like that. Did Typh with that motherfucker does every day? Yeah, he's really giving off cranky, bud-court energy. Right. And what I really like about the actor who plays Barat's performance is he does that

performative confidence thing, where his head kind of wobbles on his neck as he moves around. Did you pick this up? Yeah. Well, Farrell is like the master of this. Like for comedy, I mean, like the looser your head is on your neck, it's like a power move. He's like a weird way.

Car dealer and he's bound in down level. Yeah. Confident. Yeah. We then cut down to the trading floor of this space station at a nice bizarre alien bizarre. They did a really great job of making this look like a really big space and the aliens are all like weird and interesting. It's the challenge of Deep Space 9, except for you can't lean on the alien species that we can recognize. They did a really cool job with the comp here because

they had an area with a certain depth. Yeah. And they shot it. and then they blue screened behind that using a different scene playing. Yeah, and then they comped that for double the depth and they blew the length of the scene back double. Yeah with this like multiple Yeah, blue screening action here. They did a great job and it and it looks good You know sometimes you can get like that freaky Friday effect when actors walk in front of a blue screen like this. Right. They really didn't betray the effect here when Paris and Chicoet are walking in front of it. They did a good job. It looks really good and Paris and Chicoet met a shady figure. This guy would like to sell them some drugs Which actually sound like kind of the perfect drug for the Voyager crew.

like kind of the perfect drug for the Voyager crew. Reludion crystals. Injusting just one of these will make days of tedious travels seem like moments of exquisite rapture. Oh my God, Ben. I was personally interested in this drug for some of the longer edit days than that we've had. Like, I mean, maybe we shouldn't say no right away.

Yeah, maybe rejecting this out of hand was a bit of a forced guy. Give the guy some consideration. Yeah, he's just trying to do some business. It seems like this could help. Anyways, Nelix is also looking for something to buy. He walks up to a man who's a map dealer and asks for a map of the Necrite Expansion. He's like, are you a fine guy? Sounds like you've been taking some of a Sutak's blue pebbles over there. Take it from me, a map dealer. You can't map that.

That's not how any of this works. That's bad news for Nelix. Yeah. But good news for Nelix is he runs it to an old friend. It's Wixibon. Wixibon is a Tlaxian. You can tell because he's got an X in his name. Wixibon makes this episode officially House of Mutton Jobs because between him and Barat and Nelix, they're long enough where they could just tie them all together. They could have a three way where their chops are all tied in a circle and they're all just kissing each other. The facial hair equivalent of kissing and getting your braces stuck.

Coffee, black, make it yourself. I'm trying to help you see this as an opportunity to grow. Make it yourself. So they go get a drink at the local tavern. Neelix is kind of bragging on his special position aboard the Voyager and Wix is like, cool, great to hear what a nice life you've made for yourself. I, of course, did a bid for you upstate. You should have told me, I did three years, Brian! I told you it wasn't my fault!

And, uh, my life is fucking dog shit ever since. This is a bad look for Nelix, like, uh, that this fact comes after Nelix embellishing his time on the ship is just the worst order of conversational operations here. Please do the math on what the last time you saw Wixaban was, Nelix, and be sensitive to the fact that his life might not be going as swimmingly as yours, literally a guy that loves being in a bath. You at least need to ask them how they're doing first. Right. Right. You really need to feel Wixaban out on his situation. This scene would have lasted 40 minutes on Star Trek Discovery, where they both sit at that bar

and talk about their pain for a long time. Mm-hmm. And the guilt. If only Cyboc was there. Yeah. That's a guy you wanna share your pain with. Yeah. And gain strength from the share.

Nelix talks a lot about his experience on the ship, none of it having to do with being genetically combined with a Vulcan, and then having that combination murdered in order to restore his individuality. I mean, I feel like if you make the mistake of not asking your friend who went to jail for you about the jail thing, You can at least make it up by telling the two-vict story, right? I almost died, sort of. Is two-victs equivalent to jail? Like, when you're genetically combined with two-vict? Yeah. Like, he did time. He did like three days as two-victs. No, he did weeks as two-victs. They got used to two-victs. That's probably a greater

punishment than that year Wixibon did. Yeah, I think we're all square. Yeah, Wixibon wouldn't feel so bad if he'd knew about the two vix situation. But... Neelik slides a pad across the table and it's just a picture of the back of two vix's head. I ain't bugs in prison, but this actually turns my stomach. Say no more, Nelix. You actually got a raw deal than I did. In fact, the grief currency that Nelix trades is that his gravy train may be coming to an end

with the Voyager because he's gonna be useless to them after this point. Yeah. Going forward, he does not know, Jack shit about the space that they'll be flying through. He doesn't even know rumors, so he needs at least a map through the Neckrit expanse to kind of keep paying his way. And Wix is like, you know, I might be able to help you.

Despite what that guy minute ago told you about it being unmapable, I may be able to hook you up. Right. That's a mapable ass. What, what begins with the pee? What am I, how do I complete this joke? This joke, math. Oh, okay. Um, uh's it. Six years in. Mathable ass place. This is why we get the big bucks in Star Trek podcast.

We come up with solid gold comedy like that. As a team. Yeah, it's a scene that ends with some compatible problems, right? If Wix can get Neelix a map, then Neelix's problem is solved, but if Wix is able to do that, then his hand might be washing that hand over there. Might be a better deal for Wix too, because he's got a ship in hawk. He's dealing with some things over there. Yeah, it's a real ice scratch, your mutton shop, you scratch mine kind of situation. Yeah. So back on the voyage,

or Nielix is at work in the galley, stressing, because he's still sweating, not having a map in hand when Forek shows up to do some engineering on the food replicators, and Chicoete marges in with Wix, and is like, hey, I ran into your old homie. He wanted to say hi to you. So here he is. Okay, bye. It doesn't take long for Nelix to tell Vorik to get fucked because

they want to have a private conversation and what's great about like telling a Vulcan to get fucked is that it's not gonna hurt their feelings, right? Get fucked! I'm a Vulcan. I have no ego to prove. The reveal that Nelix does not believe that the voyage or crew needs a cook. Loki, a heel turn for Nelix. Like, you've been forcing this on them the entire time. Yeah. What kind of sick joy have you been getting? How to force feeding everyone on the crew, Gerkens.

So much Gerkens. How much Gerkens? These people don't like Leola Roots. They've said that several times. Whatever happens between us, I'm doing you a favor, giving you my pickles. Have you ever noticed whenever the crew takes over and starts cooking for themselves, Leola Root,

not on the menu, Gerkens, completely absent? Ha ha ha ha ha. You can't even get a special sauce on Voyager. I mean, it's really fucked up what he's doing to them. Wix is there to say that he's been able to give Chicoete the spindle bearings that they've been looking for. Like, that was Chicoete's whole reason for going to the station was to trade for those things. Yeah. And Nielix is like, those are hot spindle bearings, aren't they?

You fucking stole them, you asshole. And Wix is like, those are hot spindle bearings, aren't they? You fucking stole them, you asshole. And Wix is like, no, I'm on, I'm on the up and up. I've gone straight, I've gone square. I want to do good business because I've got a ship in Hawk and I'm all alone on that station. And it's very scary for me. I don't have it nearly as good as you do, Nielix. My dream is to own a fly casino like Bugsie Siegel

and do it all legal. Nelix is like, I'll believe it when I see it. I sort of thought in this scene that Wix was here kind of trying to swoop on Nelix's position. Yeah, there was definitely that vibe to this whole thing. Like a, maybe he's here to make the case for his own utility ahead of

Nielix's and trying to replace him. If Top Chef were on TV in 96, do you think that's what the show would have pivoted to? Like cooking contest for the right to remain Voyager's chef. Nielix, tell me what you were going for in this dish. Voyager chef. Nielix, tell me what you were going for in this dish. I thought the Leole root kind of overpowered everything else on the fork.

And the mouth feel left a lot to be desired. Two back would be, uh, would be the town collicchio of the panel, right? The, the difficult to please self-serious one. Right. Right. Kess would weirdly be the Padma lock me of the situation. I mean, that wouldn't be fair. You couldn't have Kess judge Nelix, especially after they broke up, right?

Man, I think that one thing really missing in this episode is Nelix talking to Kess about anything that is going on with him. That's because to our knowledge, they are, aren't broken up at this point because in Warlord, they broke up. Yeah, but like, they still have an intimacy, right? I don't know. I don't think that anybody made the case that they're not speaking to each other.

Right. What we needed was the closure scene that we didn't get, And it was a scene that was shot and cut for time. Like they had it there and they didn't use it. But there was a scene shot where they have a gracious, uncoupling, a thankful breakup, whatever Hollywood types call when they get split in divorce, that's what they had. But so it wasn't a cast saying, Neelix, I don't even want to see your fucking face. It didn't go like that. But without it, there's a strange tension

in the end of the episode when cast finally does appear that's not intended. It's all I could think about from basically this moment forward is why doesn't Neelix just discuss the moral quandary that he feels like he is dealing with? And cast would know the torture that Neelix just discussed the moral quandary that he feels like he is dealing with. And Kess would know the torture that Nelix was under throughout the episode of She Were Around. Like, she'd know he'd been lying.

She'd know he's stressed out. Yeah, it breaks the episode of She's There. So Wix is like, hey, listen, I've got a way for you guys to get the pergium that you need. This is a rare substance that they want to get some of for this journey. And I only find it between the the butthole and the scrotum. Yeah, but nobody wants to look there, you know. Yeah, no way. Can you imagine how long the hair is down there for Nielix? You think it's as wealth combed out? Good. Fucking cats tail.

So this is gonna involve turning a paper clip into a house number of trades. Yeah. They gotta get some medicine and then they gotta trade that for the map and the pergium with a colony of people that are suffering from a lung disease. So there's like a good, you know,

the bottom line is this is like a kindness that they're doing to some people, but it's complex, a lot of moving parts. A lot of strands to keep in my head, man. All of the parts that are moving, all of the favors being done though are very one directional, right? Like this is gonna be as easy as hell as long as Nelix provides the shuttle and the weapons and

the protection. Oh, and also Nelix, you can't tell anyone about this because that station captain's gonna want to take is 20% so like keep it under your hat. If that guy gets his beak wet, then 20% of the people in the planet aren't gonna get the medicine and they need for their lungs. Right, it's very important medicine and definitely not something that sounds fun to do recreationally.

Yeah. Barat's a real killjoy and he doesn't want those people to have a nice recovery. Barat thinks he can work with both sides and get things done and that was just a mistake to go into the situation thinking. Yeah. What Barat really works well with is a nice slice of tomato and a basil leaf, maybe a drizzle

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Like Wixas have an all the fun. Yeah, and when you're doing a secret mission of questionable legality You want to have the same amount of fun as As your partner, right? Yeah. If your wheel man is extremely moody. Yeah Hey, I noticed our getaway ride is nervous and twitchy. Yeah. This might be a bad giant deal. Right. Yeah. Like Wix is calling me, like, on this at a certain point. And he's like, he used to be a hardened criminal. This would have been a great time for you. What gives? Yeah. He can't even enjoy this. And he enjoys it even less when they be mounted the station ready to do the deal. And before they get over their wicks

pulls a dust buster out for safety. Yeah, I thought I thought it was very significant that Nielix does not take one for himself. Yeah, bringing a strap to the drop really implies something about the deal that's going down. Oh, indeed. This entire plan is the trading fake cocaine for money you've seen in Boogie Night. Yeah, except for its real cocaine. Yeah. And they don't get the money.

Sutok is the dealer. He's the guy that tried to- Yeah, the boredom ex-de-seater dealer. He's the, yeah, he tried to sell the stuff to Tricote and Paris earlier. And, um. I'm not as interested in these drugs as I was in the earlier drugs

because these are fucking horse pills when they open up the briefcase. I don't know how you're supposed to take these and I don't wanna know. They look like they should have a flared base but don't. Yeah, that thing is disappearing. Which is part of why it's such a dangerous drug. It's funny, like the danger to the drug isn't the psychoactivity or like the brain damage.

It's the rectal trauma. Everything else about it is cool. Yeah. No long-term effects. So like any poorly planned out drug deal, this goes all the way wrong. They get beat up, they get the drug stolen, they don't get the money. We access to shoot, su-talk, and apparently this dustbuster is set to kill because they get out of there, Nielix is pissed off at Wix, and then the next day there's a big McLaughlin group on the Voyager, where Janeway kind of barks at the senior staff that she's very pissed off,

that a Starfleet phaser seems to have been used in a murder aboard the station. This is another scene of Janeway being Vityan pissed. Might even be more pissed in this scene than ever before. A new level, I think. Barat is there to lay out his evidence, and it doesn't look good. No. It looks bad. Nielix does not say anything, because Wix has sort of implied that he will use Nielix's controversial past against him

with the Voyager crew if Nielix rats him out. And so the murder investigation will begin, but Nielix does not use this golden opportunity to come clean. Now, nor does he use the opportunity while being interrogated by Tuvac. Yeah, his next stop is Tuvac's office. My Tuvac is kind of implying that Wix is a suspect, but Neelix covers for him in this moment. Yeah. And also sort of disavows his relationship with Wix.

He's like, I don't even know the guy that well. Yeah, all right, you know what, you can't time it. Who needs to? Cause your ass is on a plane back to New Jersey, Jagger. Yeah, it's kind of like that, that deposition transference of like, well, I'll give you no answers that help you, but I guess if I'm invited to your interrogation of Wix,

I'll ride shotgun for that. And that's sort of how it goes. Like, two-lock in the scene believes Nelix to be a facilitator, like not suspecting Nelix of being Involved in this crime at all. He's gonna have Nelix like sit in on the interrogation which takes place in the bar Station she's like a bad place to do it. I mean bad place if you're the suspect probably a great place if you're an Investigator, right? Why wouldn't you always take a suspect to a bar because I'm a couple place if you're the suspect, probably a great place if you're an investigator, right? Why wouldn't you always take a suspect to a bar?

Because I'm a couple drinks. Because their accomplices might be nearby and they would be worried about retribution from the accomplices. Psh. Psh. Whatever. Okay, fair enough.

Bad call by me, but... What's important is getting a drunken confession, Ben. Yeah, that's true. But he does not get that. Oh, he gets is some more disembling from Wix. Where were you at the time of the shooting? In bed. He can't provide an alibi for where he was when the murder happened because he was in bed alone. So Tuvac, you know, feels like he may be barking up the wrong tree and dips out, but leaves Nelix to enjoy a class of beer with his buddy. Yeah, I don't think anyone's enjoying this, though. No. Because Nelix didn't like the situation from jump, but the more Wix describes the other

valences to their plan, the more horrifying it becomes for Nelix. Like, there are other people involved in this deal, and they are the Caladi. The Caladi were the ones that were providing all the financial backing, and they're pretty pissed that they didn't get their payout. And so now, to be made whole with the Caladi want is a sample of work plasma from the Voyager's warp core because it will help them make their ships way better if they can

get a sense of how good this warp plasma is. Where did you get this stuff? Go on with me. Yeah, this is off the table though for Nielix. He's not gonna do that. It's wrong. I won't go it. So he says, this is kind of an interesting scene after this where Neelix stops by to see Tom Paris, who, this looked like it might be six pay to me,

but I don't think it is. I guess it's just a room where they have different kinds of containers on the ship. This is kind of like back in my video production days, like this was the dream, right? What, like, I didn't always have the occasion to buy a new Pelican case, but I really didn't enjoy a new Pelican case day. Yeah, yeah, it's nice.

It needs to have that pick and pull lining that is just set up for exactly the thing that you're putting in it. And that's what Paris is looking for, like exactly the right case for what he needs to contain, except you just can't find it in this pile of distinct cases. Can not. Neelix is helping him sort through all of this and says, like, hey Tom, you've done some time. Any advice on avoiding doing time?

And Tom Paris sort of expresses a lot of the lessons of the first duty to Daleks in this. I mean, it really turns into an episode of Sesame Street here. I mean, this is no one's fault. But like, I don't feel like Parris is really answering the question, Nelix asked as much as, you know, emphasizing a kind of strict starfleet morality that everyone needs to ascribe to. And I didn't buy what he was saying. Like, he didn't go to jail because he didn't tell the truth. He went to jail because he broke the law. You got that kid killed in a culvert starburst. Yeah, you can't do that. But it wasn't the crime. It was the cover-up, right? Yeah. I mean, I think he would have gotten in trouble either way. I mean, can we agree that it was also the crime? And not just the cover up?

Put down all those thoughts. I think Paris is a papering over kind of the half of the story here. Yeah, I guess Tom Paris isn't exactly supposed free, or in Nielix's case, maybe keep you free, is not a bad message. But I agree that it's a little bit strange coming out of Paris's mouth when that's the implication. I mean, I hate to say this about a talaxian, but it is human nature when their name is racist to prioritize the short term effects of something versus the long term. And this is what Neelix is doing, right? Telling the truth would be very painful in the short term, but do we need better for him in the long term? Yeah.

But he can't see past that short term thing. This great advice goes unheated and Nelix's next stop is down in engineering where Vorik is apparently the only person on duty and Nelix is like, I'm just going to like run around the Jeffrey's tubes for a little while. See what's going on in there. It's okay that I do this unsupervised, right? Could you just stay over on that side of engineering? That'd be great. I like that this is one of the duty shifts where there's just Boric and no one else in engineering.

Yeah, I thought that Nielix's plasma gathering prop was one of the great props in this episode. And an episode with a lot of great props, like the little tools and gadgets all through the episode. I feel like looked really cool. And it's the rare episode where they may, I think there are like five new gadgets on screen in this episode and they're all nicely done. Yeah. This device, he's got like looks heavy and metallic. Like it's on screen in this episode and they're all nicely done. Yeah, this device, he's got, like, looks heavy and metallic. Like, it's a good looking prop. That's great. Coffee.

Black coffee. Make it, make it, make it yourself. So he shows up back on the station and admits to Wix that he did not have the nerve. He got right up to the plasma conduit and then chickened out. Wix is like, but you had that awesome prop. How could you not plug it in there and get the plasma? Yeah. So as they're having this conversation, some police march into the space behind Burat and announce they're going to be arresting a couple of people. This sort of looks like the jig is up for Nelix and Wix, but it's actually Tom Paris and Chicoete that are in the trouble. Oh, no. They were skulking around where Soutak used to work. I think they had second thoughts

about the pills. Let's see if we can go indicate to that guy to go hang out with us in a place where there isn't as much surveillance. Yeah. You get anything to make the work day go better? Anyone? Anyone carrying? Drugs can make you feel good. I kind of thought that this was a setup by Wix, but it's actually just bad police work by Barat. I thought the same thing, yeah, yeah. Barat has decided that Chicoche and Paris are the prime suspects because he has footage of them not buying drugs from the drug dealer. That is very suspicious.

Suspicious enough to suspect them of murder, I'd say. Yeah, yeah. Now, entered into evidence as exhibit A, this security cam footage of Paris and Chicoote turning down these super fun sounding drugs. Who would do that unless they had murder on their minds? The prosecution rests. Ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha this station. We have become a society of peace, loving, and understanding, and we are quite frankly not equipped to deal with a situation. Broke my heart that we didn't see the room full of these tubes. Like, we've got the tubes, even from this season, we've got the tubes. Yeah.

We need some frosty tubes in this scene so we get to see all the other guys that Barat put in there. Too bad they didn't whip out the tubes. Yeah, I mean, that's the thing. Like as soon as Barat was installed as like the station commander, like he made all kinds of promises about freeing the people from cryostasis. Yeah, turns out he's just as bad a practitioner. Yeah, kind of a bummer.

Yeah. So he looks just like, I can't let this stand. He goes to Wix and he's like, dude, we gotta we got to get those guys out of here. I have a plan I have a I have a way we can not get arrested and also do the right thing here So they go to Barat and basically the proposal is we're gonna roll on the Colodi We'll give up the kingpin snitches get cryo stitches, but we're gonna You you're gonna arrest them before they can do anything to us. But that's like, I don't know, guys.

I really, really enjoy these mandatory minimum sentences in the cryostasis. Don't you know that the criminal justice system aboard this station is a lot more about just kind of punishing people for being on the fringes than it is about actually solving for social ills. That barat confidence from that first scene, though, carries through into all scenes with barat, because when wicks and nelix are like, you're security apparatus, along with being unjust, fucking sucks. Like, this is an open-air party drug market here that you're running.

No, it's not. There's not a single nickel changes hands aboard this station without me getting a penny out of it out of the deal. Like you are fucking nuts. Are you taking the drugs that sulac is selling? Maybe that's part of the 20% he's getting. Oh, maybe that's why the station is run so poorly is he's doing the party drugs to make the the job go by faster. Yeah, I just realized the guy's name was Siu talk not Siu lock and I just want to formally apologize for that previous mistake on this episode. Oh, I'm looking at the at greatest trek Twitter account. It looks like you've already posted the screen grab of your notes page. I did a bad thing and I've learned from it. Wow, kind of unfortunate you said, I'm sorry if you heard me say that mispronunciation.

That's kind of not how an apology works, Ben. It is not. Also, thanks for the mini bottle of wine. It does soften the blow a little bit. You got it over here pretty fast. Almost as if you knew you were gonna fuck something up this episode. I kind of sung those just reflexively just in case.

That was some prophylactic wine. Is that over here? Hahaha. So this is a deal that Barat is willing to strike with them. If we can catch some big bads, maybe you guys can avoid your prison sentence. So I like how tickled Barat is. God, we can've been doing doing Borat shit the whole time.

Boy, I got fucking raked over the coals for calling Sioux Talk, Sioux Lock. People are so mad and then you call Borat Borat. And people just think it's funny and cute. Yeah, I don't get the difference. It's because it's part of my character. Yeah. And part of your character is doing it right every time. I don't think that's very nice.

Berat's kind of tickled by the idea of this. He's like, yeah, I mean, you're gonna be dead anyway, and your plan isn't gonna work. So, I mean, like, this actually makes my work day a little more fun. I might only have to do half of the party drugs today. and your plan isn't gonna work. So I mean, like this actually makes my work day a little more fun. Yeah. I might only have to do half of the party drugs today. Mm-hmm.

Yeah. Don't wonder this guy's so irritable. He's kind of like constantly riding the difference between high as hell and coming off of his high. Yeah. Yeah, he hasn't found his equilibrium. There's a fun moment where he's like watching the surveillance cameras where the deal is about to go down and the signal with Neelix and Wax gets replaced by an empty hallway and he gets to see just how much the wool has been pulled over his eyes.

It's the classic security camera clip. No! No! That you've seen in 10,090s movies. In Speed, in our first R-rated movie. Yeah. Perfect example. So, down in the deal, we get to see this Colodi guy, Tosin, show up, and this guy is a hunk.

He is really good looking. You take a look at Tosin's face and you notice one thing. You notice a couple of things actually. Really good bone structure. He looks a lot like a predator without his helmet on. And two, the actor was given no nose holes for this prosthetic and was forced to breathe through his mouth.

They really duck Jonesed him, huh? Yeah. He got really fucked over in the ability to breathe department. He does look like a man with quite a bit of gromba though. Yeah, I mean, it is one reason why he had kind of a permanent erection. So Nielix has gotten like stunt plasma from Borat and he gives it to Tosin and Tosin's like what what, this plasma sucks! I thought it was gonna be pure! Pure plasma!

And they're like, not only is that shitty, bad kind of plasma, it's also leaking into the environment right now. So, you're fucked, because you can't shoot us because it will blow up, and your transporter will also blow it up. Hey guys, maybe you should make your plasma smell like rotten eggs so you know if there's a plasma leak?

Add a little scent to the plasma. Yeah. So that somebody can call the fire department or the gas company. If you smell root beer candy, you know you got a plasma leak. Or you're having a stroke. Yeah.

Yeah, do not make your plasma smell like burn toast. Yeah. Smiley. What? Burny, yeah. Toastin isn't a bind because he can't transport out and he can't just kill them for double crossing him. But Nielix is really goading him.

Nielix is like, I've got nothing to lose man. Shoot me. Shoot me now. Do like, I've got nothing to lose man. Shoot me. Shoot me now. Do what shit you got nothing to lose. I damn showing I got none to lose. So shoot me. And Felix is like, no, what the fuck are you doing dude? Wix is also like, why are you saying plasma like that?

What plasma? You kept saying plasma. We just came from a plaza to get to this area of the station. Is that why it's confused in your brain? Because that was a plaza and this is plasma. But you said plasma. It just doesn't seem plausible. That's how you would think it is pronounced. Oh, so if it was a famous play, it would be a lay plasma. Does here's the ultimate question. Oh, ultimate question. Does

Nelix want to die here? Is more than 50% of you thinking that he does? Because by the end, you could plausibly say that this is all part of the thing he was doing, like this is part of the manipulation, he was emboldened because he knew that the cavalry was going to arrive and save his life. But I think it is far more interesting to read the scene as if Nelix is truly at rock bottom. He does not care if he lives or dies. If he is able to accomplish this mission, maybe there's not a place for him on voyage or anyway. The thought crossed my mind. And I think his mispronunciation of plasma being kind of evidence of this. So humiliating. He doesn't want to

live with that. Yeah, but I think that the thing that makes me think that he toyed with the idea, but ultimately decided against it is that he jumps away when the explosion happens. Yeah. And Barat shows up to arrest everybody and the explosion happens and he looks wakes up on a bio bed in 6 Bay. And Doc Holiday describes him as having been covered in third degree burns, but he looks okay. Man, how are you even alive? I'm not. But I am. Doc knows exactly how this feels.

Does not mention how painful burns can be. Yeah. Maybe because he knows the thing that will inflict the most pain is Kess walking in. Yeah. Post breakup. Yeah. Kess saw you naked, covered in burns by the way. You probably don't remember because you were an agony over those third degree plasma burns, but a Kess installed and removed your catheter. And scrubbed your wounds. Yeah. You're in the burn unit. Janeway comes in and asks everybody to give her a moment

with Neelix, and this is maybe the maddest we've seen Catherine Janeway, but it's not just that she's mad, she's also disappointed. So how do you combination? You remember being a little kid, like a real little kid. And when you'd fucked up, one of your parents would come into the room and sit on your bed. Do you remember how that felt? Like, when a parent sits on your bed, you know you're in trouble.

That lump in your throat is not going away for a while. Yeah. Yeah. And that is the vibe here. It's not that Janeway sits on the elixis biobad, which would have been a fun physical bit of intimidation, but she might as well be. You can't just walk away from your responsibilities because you made a mistake in that nebula. It's an interesting scene. She invokes the first duty as a sure you know the first duty,

but I sort of wanted her to also give voice to the fact that in the federation, like somebody not being immediately useful does not, cause them to not be a valued member of society and hasn't Nielix learned that from them also. Right. Like the utopian future is not just that everybody has everything they want, it's also that you don't have to be like feeding

the capitalist machine to be considered a valuable member of society. That's an interesting observation. And it's interesting that Nielix is the one to give what little voice there is to that concept. Like when Janeway asks Nielix, why did you do it? And Nielix said it was a map? That's not the interesting answer.

The answer is the loss of utility and the idea that he doesn't think he's gonna have a home anymore if you can't tell them all about the gas outside the view screen. Right. I think there's more of a teachable moment here than the scene gives credit to you. Do you think they got runtimeed on this? Like a more interesting interaction between them requires more time and they just didn't have it. Yeah, because this is like the last like two minutes of the episode that this is happening in. And we need time for Janeway to sort of imply that Nilex was like part of the family, but he's

also on punishment. Like I couldn't quite tell if he's like imprisoned aboard the ship because he offers to leave and she's like, oh, no, you don't. I felt the same way I was extremely confused by like, nothing was confusing about the tone that Janeway was giving Nielix during this conversation, but the expression at the very end on Janeway's face made me wonder if after giving him the punishment if it wasn't some kind of like bullshit posturing, and how much of that she really meant. Yeah. I was confused by that. The interpretation I had was she didn't relish laying into him like that, but she felt like she had to as the leader of the ship.

But also, yeah, like I don't always think that laying into someone is the best way. Like I feel like Nielik's already feels like shit about this, you know? I don't think that like doing hard physical labor is like a really progressive, reformist way of causing someone to reflect on their mistakes. All right. I mean, there is a great big upside for Janeway and the rest of the crew here is for two weeks. The food's gonna be great. It is gonna be a great time to go on down to the mess hall. And not a chance of a gawk buffet being there.

Like what was promised to BLT at the beginning of the episode. Oh, you've finished scrubbing the deuterium manifolds for the day? Guess what is an on sale at the beginning of the episode. Oh, and then how did you finish to scrubbing the deuterium manifolds for the day? Guess what is an on sale at the buffet? Leola root. Neriola root to be found. Neri, Eriola root, more like. Ha ha ha. Did you like this episode, Ben?

Yes, it's great. You ain't more the U.S.S. God, boy, do it. God, it's the cat. You ain't more the U.S. God, balanced, I did. I just like, it kind of rides the line for me because of the confusion I had in the last scene. And I think also because of the what you described as a Sesame Street moment with Tom Paris

in the middle. Like I thought that this Tom Paris scene maybe would have made more sense if Neelix had seemed more torn after it. But the next thing he does is go to steal plasma. He had to make that decision. That's true. How about you? I like this episode. I will feel a lot of times in Voyager that it just doesn't get dark enough.

You know, and this is another example of an episode that could have gotten a lot darker, especially when you deal with the guilt associated with your friends going to prison for you or whatever. And Neelix watching Wixaban fucking murder a guy. In front of him, like, they're they're traumatic moments in this episode that don't feel so traumatic because I think we're really in it with Nelix. Like, it's interesting, the magic trick that this episode is able to pull off because you still really care about him and you want him to be safe and you can see him,

like, he describes it to Janeway in that, you know, like, one lie turned into the lie to cover up the first lie and so on and so forth. Right. And like, the stress of that supersedes all other feelings in the episode in kind of an elegant way. The stress covers up what imperfections there might be or what choices the episode makes and not going as dark as it could have. And in that way, I really did enjoy its construction. The writer of this episode, this is like the first one that this writer has done. And there's, I guess, going to be six or seven more, teleplays by Andre Bourmanis. And I like this as a first piece of work from this writer and he's someone that I want to note

and that credit comes up again because I thought this was really well done, just as a construction. Yeah, for all its flaws, it's got like so much about it that's really interesting also. It's one thing when an episode is flawed and those flaws are not attempted to be covered or manipulated in any way,

but there's like, there's dimensionality to what's happening in this episode and the excuses some parts make for other aspects to it that I think is nicely put together. Yeah, agree. We want to see if there any nicely put together priority one messages in the inbox. Well, it's up to us to put them together, right? They're just like the pieces are there. Yeah. Priority one message from Starfleet coming in on Secured Channel. Need a supplement on that. supplement on that. supplement. Yes, extra.

The interest alone could be enough to buy this ship. Ben, our first priority one message is of a personal nature. It's from Our first priority one message is of a personal nature. It's from Zach Brager. It is to Ben Adam and the viewers and that message goes like this. In TNG, season 3 episode 15, Tasha Yard goes back through the space butthole. She there is captured by Romulans and has her daughter, Rom Yarlin, Salah. The Towshiar was not introduced until TNG season 6 episode 14 almost three years later. Towshiar. Towshiar. Whoa. Is it possible that the Towshiar was named after Towshiar, whether by writers or in canon by

Salah? Jack, this is a, this is a Star Trek convention question if I ever heard one. Yeah I mean where do you want to take your answer? That's the that's the real question. Will you be out on the convention floor? Well well we run this information down. I mean I'm ready to believe this theory the similarity is I'm just looking at them in text. Yeah if that that's true, what is the name Kawat Malat based on? Great counterpoint, though. Yeah, great question, Zach, but you didn't think about that, did you?

Didn't think about that. Well, our next priority one message here is from the Julian Teiro-Brayan and Keko, the Beverly Teher Picard and Wesley, the Trombone Teher-Riker and his consent fetish Dan, and it is two, Jason and Lane. He goes like this. Congratulations on getting married! I thought that the best wedding gift I could give is that for one day, the wedding day, I will agree with Jason about Tovix.

Jason can be right for a day and Lane won't have to worry that we'll start arguing about it. But until then, Tovix was murdered and Jason's defense of Genway is a war crime! Back from the dead is Vichy Frenchman for this. Wow. Yeah, you don't want to fight on your wedding day. Yeah, that's like rain on your wedding day. You don't want it. Yeah.

It's like two vicks walking into a room backward done your wedding day. Well, I'm sorry Lane for letting this argument burst out into the podcast, but it seems like Dan is ready to make peace for one day. Yeah, I mean, if you don't see a wedding gift on that table full of wedding gifts, this is it. You got it. Congratulations. Yeah, I don't know if you registered for this,

but... I mean, the wedding is June 3rd, 2022, so... I I gotta why we got some time for the fallout Yeah from this p1 and the possible responses Jason has a long time to look forward to that day though Wow, yeah Yeah, congratulations to Jason and Lane wow Well, if you'd like to get a priority one message, head to maximumfund.org slash jumbo-tron. As of this recording, we're booked just a few months out, but a back half of the year

looks like pretty much wide open, so if you'd like to get a P1, go and jump on it. Hey Adam. You know, I'm really easy to get along with most of the time. But I don't like boating, I don't like friends, and I don't like you. Hey Adam. What has that been? Do you have a drunk Shimoda? Drunk Shimoda! I never felt safe with Wix Abon. Yeah.

That's why Wix is going to be my Shimoda. Like, always feeling off balance with him, the specter of like that old friend bringing back, you know, a past drama to the surface. Like, you think you know Nelix until you meet a Wix, and then you start to understand that this is a character with a past, and not a savory past either. Yeah, and that gives Wix weird leverage. Yeah, I thought James Nardini did great as Wix. There's something so threatening about the

performative friendship that he demonstrates here, you know, that like makes everything feel even more dangerous. Yeah. What's so fun about the performance and the character is that like there's if you were to read the transcript or whatever, like there's nothing in his dialogue. When he's not describing the black male that he wants to inflict on Nelix, like the subtext of everything he does and says also points to that. And I thought that was just really well done. Yeah. So it's wix for me. What about you? For me, it's wix for me, what about you? For me, it's Barat who, I think the performance of Barat

is really good, but the way Barat is written is really silly. Like, like that he stands to make 20% of every transaction that the Voyager makes and is really standoffish and shitty when they show up, makes no sense. Like he should be like, hey, welcome, come on to my like totally crime free and stable station. The only thing you need to do is pay me 20% of everything.

Well, I mean, he's got a captive audience, I think, is the thing, right? Like he's the last stop on the, on the i5 for, for 45 miles. So if you need gas. He's the only convenience store in the hotel, you know? Yeah, but I think the fact that he pivots from that position to being like, yes,

I would like to collaborate with you on the murder investigation and like treat the captain as being someone who is dealing in good faith despite the fact that one of her weapons was used in this crime. It's a very funny turnabout for him. Yeah. Yeah. So it is the incongruity there that I think makes him my drunk

Shamota in this episode. Good call. Well, Adam, why don't you head to Gach that biz slash game where we keep the game of buttholes, the will of the caretaker. Well, I tell you about season three episode 14, Alter Ego, instant Kim asks Tuvac to teach him Vulcan emotional control techniques. When he falls in love with a holiday character

named Maryana. Wow. Marina. Do you have a third guess? Marina. Hmm. Yeah, it definitely rhymes with a part of the female anatomy, doesn't it? MOLVA.

MOLORIS. Alright, Ben, I'm over at the game of buttholes, the will of the caretaker, to figure out how we're going to be reviewing the next episode. Currently I run about us on square 45. That is on the doorstep of a Coco-Nono-Tiki-themed drunk-assowed, and then a few squares after that, a space butthole which would take us down to the second row, and the very same kind of square. Right, we've got this double-jeperty situation, TQ-wise.

You're required to learn as you play, Role. How am I gonna fuck this up? We're about to find out. Tula! Did I win? Harvey. Ben, I've rolled a two, which hops us over the Coco Nono episode, Land to Sun Square 47, where we are now two squares away from the space butthole that would take us down to a Coco Nono square.

So a regular episode for you and me. I have to say, mildly disappointed, I was kind of hoping for a Coco Nono. Hey, we get another shot. I have to say, mildly disappointed, I was kinda hoping for a cocoa no-no. Hey, we get another shot. I guess we do have another shot. We're not out of the cocoa no-no woods. I mean, if Harry Kim is sad, I might wanna do some drinking with him this next episode.

It sounds like a sad Harry Kim app. Maybe it is. I don't like the idea of that. Yeah, happy Kim, that's what I want. I'm happy, Ben, aren't you? That's the end of another great episode of the greatest generation. Yeah, I'm happy to be done with this. Satisfied that we've done another great job.

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