The Greatest Generation - (Straight out of) Episode 74 (DS9 S3E25)

Episode Date: February 11, 2019

When Jadzia Dax assembles her friends for a symbiote bar mitzvah, everyone is invited. But when some guests overstay their welcome, it’s up to Dax to convince Kerzon that the party’s over. What’s the most boring video game? Which actor may be “too scary for tv”? Does Darien Wallace fuck? It’s the episode where we did it on the first take!

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You know what we haven't done in a while, Ben. Um, make a good podcast. You know what else we haven't done in a while, Ben. Um, make a good podcast. You know what else we haven't done in a while, Ben? What? Declared war on each other. Waaaaaaaaat! That's right, I declare card war on you, Ben. One, two, three, four.

I declare a card war. Let's do it. Where more? There's been no formal declaration of war. And this turkey brought us some luck. That nonsense is centuries behind us. War! On the war!

Of course by war, I mean, the game of cards we play using the Star Trek customizable card game, where Ben and I flip over cards either side of the recording and then you and I judge together which card rules the other. It's generally around between three and five. Yeah, we kind of make that up as we go. Yeah. It sort of feels like a good number at the time. The fun way to talk about a show that we love and maybe some episodes that we have yet to see. So, let's go ahead and start, Ben. I will be using the Star Trek customizable card game expansion pack for the rules of acquisition. Oh, Farenci seemed. Yeah! This has got quark on the cover of the box and its packages. What about you? I just have like a plain old deck in front of me. This is a

Whiteboarder Edition 80 cards starter set of customizable card game cards and I have not looked at these before. I like we received so many of these Like the two of us probably have the two largest collections of these of anybody that doesn't know how to play the actual game. Yeah, yeah, totally wasted on us. But not wasted because we're using them on the show. So what do you say we get started? Let's do it. I think I'm going to get totally pasted in war because I just have a feeling rules of

acquisition is going to be outmatched by just regular games Yeah, I mean you're gonna get ships and stuff. I'm gonna get a counting software All right, I'm I'm ready to flip over the first card. What about you? I'm ready three two one And my card is a dilemma it is Shaka when the walls fell and And my card is a dilemma. It is Shaka when the walls fell. And the card, hopefully, interprets that as the inability to understand. In comprehensible Tamarians spoke entirely in metaphors. They sure did. And it's the lieutenant in that episode, the guy that the captain leaves on the ship.

I got really got pumped at the end. He was no captain of the Tamarians. I might have he beat Ben because my event is war. Yeah, what? It's the 34th rule of acquisition. War is good for business. And the picture in the frame is of a del Sol class starship exploding surrounded by a nest of cardacian and a make-wee

ships. This plays on your arms dealer or acquisition personnel. Once every turn of a non-rogue board battle was just initiated or opponent ship was just damaged, download two gold press Latinum here. So I don't know, I don't know what any of that means but This great big explosion It's pretty impressive to me Wow impressive enough for me to call it a win. What do you think I concur? One guy yelling at a few screeners not as impressive as a Del Sol explode in space. Yeah Let's flip another Okay, three, one.

I have Morte. Morte was the security officer that led an assault team that boarded the entrepreneur on Lurin's order. This was one of the Ferengies that took over the ship during the episode where they got turned into kids. It's the Rascals episode. Oh, it's just the one that had the guy from Big Lebowski that had the guys down at the Crime Lab working in chiefs. Yeah, he's the one that was befuddled by Commander Riker's bogus computer lesson. Remember that? That was a great scene. Right. I am not stupid. My card is Dilemma. This is the Mentaar booby trap. Remember they found that ship that should be in a museum?

Yeah. It was surrounded by asteroids that suck power. I love that episode. Relic from the ancient Mentaar Promethean War, acetone assimilators trap passing ships, drain power, then admit deadly radiation. That Mentaar radiation makes your breath feel very cool too yeah I did I did I've my voters for your card I think I think we both agree more to

was an idiot yeah all right I ready to flip another one? Tied at one. Three, two, one. I've got one of these cards that's kind of like upside down and right side up. It says covert installation, Devora, build hidden monitoring station in the neutral zone. So I guess this is just some like shit you can do to like start off some set trip in between the Romulan Star Empire and the United Federation of Planets? I don't know. I don't know. Those cards always confuse me. Those double-ended cards. Yeah. I got a dilemma card. Inside the picture frame is Quark with three phaser pistols held to his head. Title of card is center of attention.

After Morn faked his own death, Quark inherited the Lurian stolen Latinum fortune, naturally. Spoiler alert. This made him quite a hit with Morn's former partners in crime. Pretty dangerous card. I don't want to know this about Morn. Yeah. I regret even opening this package. Ha-ha-ha. I regret even opening this package.

Well cut all this out. Still seems like a fairly powerful card to be using. I'd rather be a covert installation than have a bunch of phasers stuck in my head though. Agreed. 2-1 Ben. Alright. Alright, let's flip somewhere over. 3, 2, 1. Ben, I have equipment and the thing depicted in the frame is a giant cannon.

It is the Breen CRM 114. It's a powerful disruptor. Guaranteed to cut through a reactive armor of up to 15 centimeters and shields up to 4.6 giga jewels. Damn. Expensive but well worth it. This is a gun, Ben. What about you?

I would love for you to Jackie and learn me a picture of that gun. My card is Palleth. This is a Romulan engineer, Romulan trained in the field of engineering, a specialist in artificial quantum singularity. He served aboard the Kazura in 2369, is an integrity of three, a cunning of eight, and a strength of seven. I don't know. I mean, I do have a gun. You do have a gun. Oh man, this is a big, this is a great big gun. Right? This is like the BFG.

BFG. I can just see it floating about two feet off the ground and rotating in space. Yeah, it had to inspire this. Boy, I don't think I really have a shot in hell this time. Yeah, I think the Brem CRM114 kicks the shit out of Palteth. Hard to beep in. Are we tied up? Is it two two and two it is two and two This is the deciding car skull wins. Yeah

Three two one. Oh boy, Ben. You're gonna need something big to have me be what do you got? Well, Adam. I am sitting pretty with security officer Darian Wallace. And some Darian Wallace is representative of Starfleet security officers. He held numerous positions aboard the USS Enterprise. He has an integrity of seven, a cunning of five, and a strength of six. How do you have integrity of seven? It just seems like integrity is either all or nothing. The degrees of integrity interests me.

Well, if you take a look at this guy, you could... It's plain to see that he's a man with a great deal of integrity. I mean, he's standing right in front of Starfleet Academy for Christ's sake. Not perfect to integrity mind you. You must ding him down to seven, certainly. Yeah, he's a bit of a shit but but he's a starfleet shit hold on you you Jackie and Laurie me pick let's see yeah and Jackie and Laurie now canonically members of the maximum fun network yeah so I don't know in the family we should we should see if somebody at the network can like get in touch with them and make sure that they're okay with us using that terminology.

Turns out Jackie Cation and Laurie Kilmarton are very litigious. They trademark the idea of taking a picture of something and sending it to their friend. I think Ensen Wallace is in some trouble from a Borel class surplus cling on bird of prey. Ben, the thing that gives Wallyson a fighting chance here is that it's a surplus ship. It's much smaller than the Cavort class ships. It's a little mini bird of prey. The frangie bought this one to support a covert vendorite mining operation on Legos 7. So there you go. It's to defend a mining operation on Ligos 7. So there you go.

It's to defend a mining operation. I think this little bird can rain fire on the dorm room of Enten Wallace. No sock on the door handle will protect him from from this ship barging in on him. He's in big trouble. Terrien Wallace doesn't fuck. The thing is weapons are five on this barrel class and Wallace's integrity of seven might give him the upper hand there. I don't know what to do here Adam. Are we gonna call this one a draw?

And we have to flip one more over. Yeah, let's go into sudden death. That's always fun. All right, all right three two one Adam, I have an event All right, espionage, I have an event. Alright. Espionage, Romulan, on Federation. Romulan spies are everywhere! They certainly are, Ben. But are they as prolific as Farenki-Waters?

Because what I have is Fruil. A typical Farenki-Water, he serves as employers as well as can be expected for a young, impatient, aspiring opportunist. He's a waiter, Ben. A waiter. I have a network of highly trained members of the espionage community. You've got a waiter. I'm depending on tip-sharing from the bartender to survive. Oh man. I think that puts me in the loser's bracket there, Ben. Well, not done any favors by the waiter.

Alright, Adam. Do you want to stop this nonsense and get into the episode today? Yeah, what I'm looking forward to more than anything is talking about Deep Space 9 Season 2 Episode 25. Fassets. Do you realize how incredible this is? No, of course you don't. AKA being Dax Malkovich. We open on a scene of Jake interrupting Nog doing flight simulator. Yeah, flight simulator interruptus.

Anyone who's ever played a flight simulator knows how shameful it is to play one. Well, the other kids were playing real video games. I would often be playing flight simulators. You're landing a 747 at LaGuardia? Yeah, I love that shit. Give me all that realism, man. Give me all those switches and gauges. Man, what is the estimated countdown

to when you have a H.O. gauges train miniature set in your basement that is just like huge and perfect? You know, the business trip that my wife takes that lasts longer than 10 days gauge train miniature set in your basement that is just like huge and perfect. You know, the business trip that my wife takes that lasts longer than 10 days will probably be the inciting incident for that. Left to my own devices that long, I think that's going to... You're going to hit those hobby shops very hard and they will not know what hit them. While my friends were playing like the warcrafts and the

starcrafts at the world, I was in my room playing submarine simulators, which my friends made fun of me for by calling them gauges. Just are you in there playing gauges? Adam gauges the most boring video game. That's me. When I was playing Starcraft and Warcraft, I didn't have any friends to make fun of me. So how dorky do you need to be to have people who play Starcraft and Warcraft call you a dork? I mean, I think it's just amazing. So dorky. Yeah, when I was in, I had a, an abortive first semester of college that I was like far to depressed to actually take part in school and I had I was like sent home by

by the dean and I was also like in Suffering from very bad insomnia at the time. So combination. So there were like 36 hour stretches where I would like not stop playing Warcraft. Whoa. In there. But you were a stinky Pete. Ha-ha-ha-ha-ha-ha-ha-ha-ha-ha-ha-ha-ha-ha-ha-ha-ha-ha-ha-ha-ha-ha-ha-ha-ha-ha-ha-ha-ha-ha-ha-ha-ha-ha-ha-ha-ha-ha-ha-ha-ha-ha-ha-ha-ha-ha-ha-ha-ha-ha-ha-ha-ha-ha-ha-ha-ha-ha-ha-ha-ha-ha-ha-ha-ha-ha-ha-ha-ha-ha-ha-ha-ha-ha-ha-ha-ha-ha-ha-ha-ha-ha-ha-ha-ha-ha-ha-ha-ha-ha-ha-ha-ha-ha-ha-ha-ha-ha-ha-ha-ha-ha-ha-ha-ha-ha-ha-ha-ha-ha-ha-ha-ha-ha-ha-ha-ha-ha-ha-ha-ha-ha-ha-ha-ha-ha-ha-ha-ha-ha-ha-ha-ha-ha-ha-ha-ha-ha-ha-ha-ha-ha-ha-ha-ha-ha-ha-ha-ha-ha-ha-ha-ha-ha-ha-ha-ha-ha-ha-ha-ha-ha-ha-ha-ha-ha-ha-ha-ha-ha-ha-ha-ha-ha-ha-ha-ha-ha-ha-ha-ha-ha-ha-ha-ha-ha-ha-ha-ha-ha-ha-ha-ha-ha-ha-ha-ha-ha- Yeah, but maybe if I'd had gauges, I could have identified what adult rooms I was in earlier on. You know, having a game that was like engaging and had like, you know, interesting shit happening in it, maybe concealed my mental illness from me for longer than I needed to be concealed.

You remember how terrible the video game box art was back then, like the MicroPros video game art board gauges the video game? So exciting. Yeah, everybody so mussely, despite just being like an ensign on a, on a submarine. Yeah, everyone's so jacked. Ben, you haven't brought it up in a while and we can cut it out if you don't want to talk about it

but you haven't mentioned, how are you doing health wise? I'm doing okay health wise. I, my health insurance changed right around the same time as my therapist I was seeing stopped using all health insurance. Yeah. So I'm like eligible to get back into it, but I just haven't, I haven't done it.

But that's a good reminder. I should be on the to-do list, and it should be more proactive about that. Yeah, to carry yourself, man. Yeah. You got some people who need you. Probably sign up for a yoga class, too. That'd be good.

Boy, since coming back from sketchfest, I have been a great big pile of shit. Just like... I mean, I didn't want to bring it up at him. Like, I really need to get back into a healthy lifestyle because there is nothing like a week of partying that just grinds you into a fine powder. Yeah. The best time, clearly. I think we each probably had about a gallon of teaky drink per day that we were there.

No regrets. One night we were on the verge of going to a second teaky bar of the night. We fortunately talked ourselves out of it, but we almost did a teaky bar bang bang. San Francisco, one of the world's great cities for its many Tiki Bar options. Yeah. Rich with Tiki Bar's ban.

But yeah, Nagas is still working on getting into Starfleet Academy. He is fucking pissed at Jake because Jake has compromised a test run. He was like, er was like urging, going for his 2K split. Now he doesn't know what it is. And he's angry about it. Why did you come in here? But he was technically blowing Jake off.

They were supposed to hang and Nag was late. So Jake came looking for him. I gotta say, even if you are also a teenage boy, the level of risk of going into the hollow suite while a teenage boy is in there alone is pretty high, right? Really terrible thinking by Jake here. I mean, given all the shit that Jake was up to in that explorer's episode,

you would think that he would be like, this would be sort of top of mind for him, like, what do I do when I'm alone? I crank it. Hehehe. Once they leave the Hollisweak, quirk hits them up, and it's like, you know, if this Starfleet Academy thing doesn't work out for you, Nug.

I can always use a good dish, Russia. The consortium that you guys came up with to sell the self-sealing stem bolts can be pivoted to video Through the creation of a bunch of hollow sweet programs of an elicit nature Yeah, he's literally suggesting that the two of them collaborate on pornographic hollow sweet programs and I was like pretty fixated on that topic until Nog starts storming off and when he turns away His lampshade is so fucked up. It's like totally a skew on his head How do they let this get on screen this screwed up lampshade?

I kind of feel like they didn't have much time to shoot this one Yeah, it's like the symbiosis commission decided that this would be the cheapest bottle episode of all time What would Hollisweep programs look like if they were exclusively written by Adolescence? I imagine they would just be a chicks with big boobs Yeah, here's some are So So that's it, huh? Just these big boobs. Yeah.

That's all the program is. That's pretty much all we got. Even big boobs number 74. That's just the variation on the theme. Jake and Doug. Number 74. Proof that we have a winning formula here. Yeah.

Everybody is getting called up to the wardrobe though, including Quirk, for a McLaughlin supergroup. Issue 1. This is everybody that is a recurring adult character on the show pretty much. Everyone who's on salary instead of hourly is it the table? Yeah. And that means like Odo, Dr. Bashir, Dax, Commander Cisco, Kira, O'Brien, Lita, and Quark. Remember Lita? Just back. Now I remember.

Ben. Straight out of episode 74. Ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha Dax cuts to the chase, it looks like it may be an intervention of some kind when it starts. You were the seven people on the station back with Moses too. And then what you all to be a part of my entire life. Right. Dax, like I brought you all here because I love each and every one of you. Just saw a bunch of people that love you like crazy. And like Cisco is standing there next to her with his arms crossed, like almost like a muscle.

I want to say some things and then you're going say what you're gonna say and we're done. That's it. If you'll commit to becoming a part of my Gentara today, we can move forward with our relationship but if not I will have to I'll have to remove myself from your life. Dax knows how much fun this is to pitch because she is raising it in such a way that makes it sound dirty. If you don't mind, I'd like to borrow your bodies for a few hours.

Yeah. She wants to get up in ya. And like the dirtyness doesn't stop there, because pretty much everybody is up for this except for Quark and Quark makes a big show of squirming. And then she does the ear caress thing and like getting deep into his personal space. It's so gross!

This minute is so fucked up, Ben. You're not supposed to do this kind of thing in public. Like, it's totally pressure, Squark, and do a thing he doesn't want to do because everyone agrees to it and then they're like drumming their fingers on the table looking at Quark, thinking like of course he's got a consent to this. It's not right, and then Dax lobe strokes him into being into it. Is there a head cannon in which Quark's misgivings arise from him trying to elicit a lobe stroke? rise from him trying to elicit a lobe stroke. In order for this not to be totally disturbing, you need to have decided that what the Jintara

is is totally innocent and fun and not harmful and doesn't take advantage of the host. But we don't know that yet. The Jintara is a ritual where join trills get a chance to actually meet their previous hosts. Meet them. How? I mean, it's dangerous enough to where they give the bad DACs to Cisco, like under a very controlled circumstance, so at least they're aware of some downside to this, right? Yeah. One fun

consequence of this scene is that DACs finally gets to go up in Cisco and in kind of a revenge move for what happened in the mirror universe. Whoa. Go to Contra, go to Contra. So they invite a guardian to the station and the guardian's the person who makes this Gentara possible. Like he conjures the spirit of the symbiote out of Jadziah and floats it into the host body so that Jadziah Dax can have an experience with the previous Dax face to face. Right, because there have been seven previous hosts and so she's gathered her seven most trusted friends on the station to embody those hosts

and this is like a symbiot bar mitzvah kind of situation where where she's going to she's going to undergo this right in order to kind of come to closure with her previous lives and move on with her new life. I feel like whoever wrote this episode really loved the TNG masks episode and was like, Asaka is waking. We're not gonna make Jadzi attacks play all the characters. We're gonna have the entire cast play all the characters. I think that this is something that they got really interested in with DS9. Like DNG had a bunch of like costume dramas in the holodeck and they haven't really done

that much of that in Deep Space 9. But I think with this episode they get really interested in the idea of these actors playing different characters entirely. And so this is, I mean, this is a very fun acting challenge, right? To like a pure on screen in the same costume, but as a totally different personality. It totally is. And yet it's not sustained for longer than a single scene with all of these guys. We get, we get the fan-yettes of Tob Ryan,

which is ChifoBrien and Tobin, who is like a milk toasty nail-biting apologist man. Sorry. We've got Lemony, which is Lila and Emony, and all we know about Emony is that she's a gymnast. That's it. Why am I not surprised? I mean, they managed to work a line in about how great her body is that has to come out of her

mouth. Gotta do that. Can't leave that bill unrun. In their defense though, we also have never left that bill unrun. So we're just as bad. Quark has embodied the motherly and kind spirit of Audrid, who in combination will refer to as Quadrid for the one scene that Quart gets. Quart does a magic trick here that teaches the viewers that the host body can break through and communicate with Jadziya Daxe. The entity that lent me this body wishes to speak. He's kind of like sitting back watching the show inside his character, the he's the only member of the of the group that has been asked to bend gender and so right it really greats against him as the most sexist person on the station and Yet I feel like quarks argument Against the circumstances are not totally grounded in gender and just grounded in a discomfort of his circumstance like I don't think he likes the lack of control that he's feeling in this moment.

Dr. Bashir and Tarias have combined to Barias, which is a simple pleasure's man who died too soon, sort of a peppered farmman. Life's too short to deprive yourself of the simple pleasures. And then finally, after all those very quick vignettes are through, we get a longer scene with Ciscorian, who is the Jorin the Murderer character. For some reason, this episode skipped over the hijacked Trill host of Verad. He goes uncommented, uncompletely. And I guess that's because the Guardian is able to hand pick which previous hosts are able to be used.

Like that's the only explanation, even though it's an explanation that goes on said. My head cannon here was that there was some talk in that episode of there was kind of a time limit. And if they didn't get the symbion back into Jetsia, it would like to find with Verad. That makes sense. And so I was thinking maybe like it didn't, the symbion didn't actually pick up like a real life experience from that, that episode.

For Jetsie, a DACS is safety. They put Ben Sisko behind the force field of a Briggs cell. And once they turn on the jorin part of him, every Brooks gets a scene of Hannibal Lecter-esque creepiness. It's good to see you again, John Z. I love this scene. It's a great every Brooks scene. What I read about this scene is that they had to go back and re-shoot it because the first take

that Avery Brooks does is so creepy and disturbing that they couldn't use it on television. Wow, damn. I believe it, too. He went 10 out of 10 on his first try, and they're like, actually, we got to pull this back. This is too fucked up. I would love to see that version. It is such a fun choice to give every book's the crazy one.

Yeah. Because like, he is so wild in the acting choices he makes as a sane and studied man. And it's a great character, but like to see him really like sink his teeth into a netball is very fun in this episode. And I would also love to see the version where they said it was too hot for TV. Yeah, I mean, that said, like, 10 out of 10 for Avery Brooks is like an unhittable fastball.

Like, you probably make a conscious choice not to dial him up that high just because he'll blow the rest of the cast away. Yeah, and too scary for any of the other actors to be in there. Yeah, I mean, even not going 10 out of 10, Avery Brooks does some super creepy shit here by like banging his head into the force field and then attempting to choke out Jadziya Dax once the force field is lowered. I feel like we have never quite known what it feels like to touch a force field. There have definitely been force fields that are electrified and painful to touch and we've seen those.

But the idea that he's holding his two hands against it and then bashing his head against it is very disturbing looking. And makes you worry that it's also like damaging his body. I get such a weird idea to think that there's this other consciousness in there that is going to inflict harm on this body if she doesn't do something. this body if she doesn't do something. Okay. So, Jorin takes over Cisco in order to choke Dax. Momentarily, Fakes that Cisco has come back and taking control over the body. Yeah. And then, upon being thrown to the ground by Jadsia Dax, is clear enough to Dax that he's

back to being Cisco again in a way that strains credulity. Like, how does DAX know that this is real Cisco and not an attempt at a longer game by Jorin? Right, and also like they don't ever kind of explain how they get Jorin back out of him. Right, you never see the removal of these things only the implantation. I was totally with you on this. They never put the straight jack out of him. Right. You never see the removal of these things, only the implantation. I was totally with you on this.

They never put the straight jack out on them, so he can't harm anybody while they while they remove it. I was expecting and hoping for him to be a going concern as like the the chaos agent B story of the SEP. I was too. Like I there are so many times in this episode where there's an opportunity to raise the stakes and they choose not to. Yeah. Which I really like about it because it is just a character study and a character history piece for Judzia for a really long time. Like the first like real dilemma happens at like the 33 minute mark in this episode. It really made me think a lot about what equals a missed opportunity and what equals restraint in storytelling.

Right. I don't know that that's a question that I can answer after watching this app. I don't know. Like there are a lot of things that I wanted to happen here. Yeah, I mean, my attention was totally held through all this despite the fact that the stakes seemed very low. So I don't know. Maybe that's the difference, the difference is attention. Like it's not a missed opportunity if

it still holds you along for the entire app. Yeah. I wanted to call out Terry Ferrell's performance in this scene against Davey Brooks. I mean, he's obviously doing the biggest acting in the scene, obviously doing the biggest acting in the scene, but the way she shows how chilled she is by his presence, like what she does with her face and how hard she gets, winds up looking is really impressive. I thought she did really subtle face acting in this scene. They frame her just right too. I don't think they move the camera at all.

I think it's just cross-cutting between them. Just clean singles and clean close-ups. Or face just gets totally hardened over the course of the scene. It's really great. Yeah, for an actor who's not asked to act out all these characters, like she's the one that remains. Like, what a gift of a scene this was for her. It made me think like what you do if you're planning this out

is you give the scariest personality to the physically weakest of your friends. And I think that's Quark, right? Yeah, Quark and his his forangi bird bones. I don't know when we decided bird bones were it was canonical forangi but I know that was something we discussed long time ago. Did we really? Yeah that was a thing. I like it. What are you doing? What are you doing now?

Begar, begar, begar, begar, begar, begar, begar. Exactly. Back in Quark's bar, Quark counts Latinum while Ram's nervous energy is really growing irritating for him. Yeah, because Nug is taking his big test. Ramm produces a garrick-made cadets uniform from behind the bar, which would indicate a superior confidence in his son's ability to pass this test. I thought that was cute. That was nice.

And also, Ramm, like... Like, even Quark knows that, like, they give you the uniform. You don't wear the homemade one to work. Right. I wonder what the rules are, right? Do you have to wear the one that is specifically issued to you by Starfleet, or if you have like a really nice tailor made one, can you wear that?

It's stolen valor, right? I mean, if you're an officer in like the British military, you can go to Savile Row and have your uniform like made to measure. I like the idea that that's like something that is still available in Starfleet era, you know. I wonder how Garrick felt making this, because you know he had to have some feelings. I wonder what the interaction was between Rahm and Garrick, as Rahm asked for this. Like, are these

two characters that we've ever seen talk to each other? This is a nine-inch nails closer video with the scene missing. Title? Like, I wanted that scene. Yeah. Badly. I mean, there's just no time.

There's no time for so much that we wanna see in this app. Yeah, but yeah, like we have to see a chief of Brian Proctoring the test, which is also really fun. Yeah. And also digesting the idea that he one day a chief of brand proctoring the test, which is also really fun. Yeah. And also digesting the idea that he one day may be subject to saluting

nog. Yeah. And then we meet... Do you have a name? Maybe you should say this. Oh, Ben, you know he got to meet Kersodo. Which of course is the combination, Kerson, Odo.

Mr. Bunkie. Figure. Odo probably the best body to inhabit because he's able to look like you. You do recognize me, don't you? You know, we see the process of transferring the personality a couple of times, but when we see it with Odo, we actually get a really awesome morph effect and he like grows out his hair a bit and grows some spots and comes to resemble Curzon Dax. Seems like a pretty fun dude.

He wants to go immediately to the bar. He is ready to drink and party and hang out with Ben Sisko. Drink and party he does. They're like ordering drinks. He's gonna talk to Jensia, but he first wants to fuck around with his old buddy Benjamin. This is very delightful to Sisko at first, you know. It's weird because they're best friends friends or they were best friends. Kursodo even says so. But Cisco could not be more interested in leaving the scene.

I've got to return some video. He gets out of there really fast and that was surprising to me. I can kind of dig it because Cisco has had to do a very complicated thing of both grieve the loss of his friend and also get to know his friend a new in the person of Jadziah Daks. That's a great point. Yeah, he's already been through it. And so I wonder, does that second layer of difficulty make it hard to, you know, like

we'd all, like, there are loved ones that we could all think of, like, how awesome it would be to get one more hang with them, you know, a stolen hang. We never see that paythos with Cisco though, and I wish we did. Like we see, we see him leaving because he's got shit to do, but we never see a look on his face that shows how difficult this is for him. I thought a lot about what happened in between the scene of Kersodo and Cisco leaving the Cisco quarters and arriving at the bar. Like what transpired as that as they walk down those hallways and took those turbo lifts. That's that's something that is never mentioned in the episode and I think could have been where

that pay those happened. As soon as Cisco leaves, Kersodo and Dax drink the orange drink of body confusion together. I believe bartenders call it the freaky Friday. Yeah. And Dax begins to ask Kerson about her time as an initiate, right as Kersodo gets distracted by a Ferengi hustler across the way. And this is one of many scenes that

underscores the idea that the mix is a little off when you're doing Gentara to a changeling because it's not just one character on top of another, there's a commingling happening here, wherein Odo's interest in busting crime seems to be mixed with Cursons, Rack on Tour Spirit.

Right, trying to corouse and cut loose while also taking a bite out of crime. Yeah, like he's gonna go do the coke. Yeah, the idea that the path that this new hybrid character takes is, oh that guy's a tongue-go-hustler, let's just go beat him in his own game, it's pretty fun. Yeah, what does Odo do with the money? Maybe he saves it up in his, I want to take Kira out on a million dates fund. And I only get a job, it's starting up and it fucking so rich that you're gonna love me forever.

What do I do with the money? Look at me. I am money. I just turned into a stack of platinum. A stack of platinum that's in Jake's quarters watching him crank it. We should tell people about that animation, right? Yeah. Speaking of that, someone made an animated video accompaniment to us talking about Odo's

interest in watching J. Xisco crank it. That is just great. If you go on Twitter and look for user WDW plan tunes. There's just a delightful little animation of Jake and his dad cranking it on the bejure and sailing ship and the sail becomes Odo. It's really great. Yeah. To be quite honest about it,

I was in a pale, a bucket of paint. Mr. Bucket, I have to revert back to my state. Oh, I don't use. Rabbit have his in a pair? A bucket of pay. Mr. Bucket, I have to reverse back to my dead state. Oh, no, I don't use the bucket anymore. So Nog is failed his entrance exam, which came as a surprise to me. Yeah, he seems really, really competent and really committed to doing this the right way. Like, you know, like one thing that's really struck me about this, we just got done with our greatest Jenkhan

tour. We talked a lot in that tour about how the idea of Kirk cheating on the Kobayashi-Maru, like coming from almost anybody else would make you hate them. You could never have nog cheat on his test and have it be a redeemable characteristic. You'd be like, he can't go to starfleet no matter what. Right. He has to be stopped from being in starfleet. Yeah. And it's really interesting that that plays in the exact opposite way for Kirk. Yeah, that's a good point. The redemptive proper the essential redemptive property of Kirk, no matter what he does.

Yeah, so I don't know. Some of the things about. Yeah. Yeah. And he's really bummed out. Like the scene where he's telling us dad about it is genuinely sad. Yeah.

And Quirk makes some comments like, oh, you know, like they don't, they don't know what they're missing. You would have been great. But anyways, like get back to work and being a forangi just got to you got to take these these defeats with Sima Plom and move on. And man, Nog used to be such a punchline character and getting this amount of like emotional sincerity out of that character is pretty fascinating. The fact that they

decided to make him a real thing, you know. Ron and Nug both, I think, have turned a huge corner this season in that way. Yeah. Like, you talk about the magic trick for Kirk. Like I did not think either of these characters would ever be pulled out of punchline status, but look at them now. So dilemma has finally arrived at him at the... You pulled out a dilemma card?

Yeah, and after I figured out which was the right way up to look at it, um, yes, uh, Kersodo has no interest in returning to being Odo and a part of Dax's personality. Kersodo wants to stay Kersodo. I like it here. It's especially hurtful because Dax's reason to go to a second location with him

is like she really wants to have a moment. Like that's the whole reason to do the Gentara is to like have meaningful moments with past hosts. And this is the past host that she actually has like personally met as Jetsia, pre-Jetsia Dax. And she's still eaten up by the idea that he kicked her out of the Symbian program and wants to confront him about it.

It's such a blind side because not only does he give an insufficient answer to the question, he's like, she changes the subject into, I'm gonna live here forever now. Right, which would suck for tax. I kind of feel like that would be an awesome move though for the show. Just like a character changes utterly suddenly. It's sort of a strange, like,

Kersoto throws his sabote into the Gentara gears. Because everyone's expecting all these characters to go back to where they belong. It's a real puzzle because they, there's no way to like get this personality back. They have to, it has to come willingly. So they have to figure out a way to talk Kersoto out of continuing to be Kersoto. Which seems really hard to do because Kersons having a great time in his container. Great time indeed. In Cisco's office, the Guardian says

there's really nothing that he can do about this. Hands are tied now. It gets a consent issue. Right. You need consent from both Kerson and Odo. And at least according to Kersoto, Odo's happy there too. Right.

That's a thing that doesn't go interrogated any further than that. They just like take that as wrote. But I thought that if you move the dilemma further forward in the episode than 32 minutes, you could actually dig into that as an idea a little bit. But because they set up the challenge as have all seven of these actors play a different character for a couple of minutes, like there's just too many, too many minutes to use up in, you know, on the path to getting to this scene and they just don't have time for it, you know. They're concerned about what will happen to DAX without Kerson's memory inside her in such a way

that it feels like, this has got to feel like a lobotomy, right? Yeah. It's pretty scary. It's very scary and I think that Terry Feral does a great subtle job of conveying that. DAX needs some counsel from Ben Cisco and in this scene, Cisco tells Jadzia Dax that the curzon that he knew and was best friends with was a real son of a bitch. But the

thing with curzon was that like he had an essential goodness about him that could be found if you were to talk him out of his selfishness. Like there's a way to get through to him because he always backs down when he's wrong and clearly he's wrong. Are you going to confront him or let him get away with it? Yeah, which is a great piece of advice, you know? Like, you gotta call him out on the carpet

and call him on his bullshit. And Cisco knows from calling Kerson on his bullshit. Like, their friendship becomes so much more interesting to me in this episode. The idea that Kerson was hard to be friends with. And that Cisco loved him so much that he put up with that. And that like the things he learned from that are actually valuable in his life, but also in this scene, he can kind of pass that wisdom along to Jetsia.

And when she goes back to confront Kersodo, it's very effective. Like it's exactly as Cisco predicts. You can't intimidate me, Kerson. He's gonna back off. He's gonna do the right thing at the end of the day. This scene is a creep show, though, Ben, because Jadziah Dex pivots Curzon out of guilt over his interest in staying to the guilt over the circumstances of Jadziah being chosen as a host because at the core of Kerson's initial denial

of her application and then finally her approved application is that Kerson was in love with her. Always has been. And in like sexy kind of love. Yeah, man, like we joke about the whole DAX thing about, you know, being inside someone, but Crizzon's intimate knowledge of Dead Zia without her knowing the true backstory behind his interest. It's not sexualized on the surface, but it feels rapy to me.

No, I think so. And I think that he's torn because of that. You know, like he, he kicked her out of the, the program because he could see the implications of what that would be like. And that would be deeply inappropriate. Yeah. You know, and the way be deeply inappropriate. Yeah. You know, and the way she expresses forgiveness over this is surprising and amazing, I think. Yeah.

It's a real miracle because this is, this feels fairly unforgivable. But what is she going to do, right? Like, he's a part of her. And that's the case that she makes. It's unforgivable, but he was also in an impossible position. He didn't want her to become a part of him when he knew how inappropriate it was. Yeah. Right.

It's fucked up that the way he chose to solve the problem was to ruin her career or whatever. solve the problem was to ruin her career or whatever, but but yeah, like that's I guess Could she ever have been given a different symbiant? I guess I don't understand whether that's part of the issue like the fact that he Through the deck symbiant wound up in her is either Just a part of how it works or a like a crazy

ironic random situation. This episode depends on the viewer's head canon to decide how dark this scene is and I don't like that. Because to me this scene plays this extremely dark and awful. Because to me, this scene plays is extremely dark and awful. But it's really in the eyes of the beholder here and in a way that I wish the episode stated a very clear idea of what was truly going on. It's too ambiguous. I agree. I think that if you're gonna tip to up to this line,

you gotta be very clear which side of it you're on. Yeah. One more. One, two, three, four. One more. One more. One more. Hammer time.

One thing that's become clear to Ram at least is that Quark came to the test that Nog was taking. Change the conditions of the test to make it a no-win scenario. Yeah, an actual no-win scenario. And in a great scene in a hallway, Ram puts him right up against the wall and threatens him and threatens the bar.

My son's happiness is more important to me than anything, even Latin, remember that brother. He says he'll burn the bar to the ground, which I was like, come Latin, remember that brother. So it's still burn the bar to the ground, which I was like, come on, Ram, like you know that the bar is inside a space station. There's technically no ground, it's just different levels. And also a fire in space is super dangerous.

Let's be honest here. Great scene for Ram. Really coming to his child's defense in a way that has become a routine for him and something that I like relying on. Like I like that he always has his son's back no matter what. This was one take. They took the first one and then they moved on. Did you know that?

That's awesome. They one took this and then they had to come back and reshoot a very Brooks because it was too terrifying. Right? You never know when you're shooting a project when you'll need to claw back some time, which is why if you think you got on the first one in this way and it's this good, you're depositing time into a bank you might have to withdraw from later. Yeah. I don't like just taking one take though, Ben. I don't know about you. I have a hard time just taking the first and moving on.

I always want a second for safety. Yeah, it's very scary to print the first one. Yeah. You have to have a lot of self-confidence. So much of it is the tech, right? Right. There may, for instance, be an audio problem or a weird video problem or a glitch in the file. If you're shooting to card, like it's any number of things can crop up.

Seriously. It's a scary proposition, but when you're on a pro set at Paramount, I think I think those concerns are pretty rare. So the last sequence in the episode is Ram introducing the newly cadet uniform wearing nog to everybody. He's got a matching lampshade for his uniform. Cisco does call him out on the stolen valor issue. I love this. I like to believe that Cisco still had to have to buy Jorin and he's just playing an extremely long game. He just snaps, knocks me back and then he's not a character in the show anymore.

There's like layered embarrassment happening here. There's the embarrassment of being made a big deal of by a proud father in public. Like that's that's a thing that is unique to an adolescent. And then there's also the stolen valor thing, you're right, like he's not supposed to be wearing that uniform yet, he's jumping the gun. But he does it for his dad to make him feel better and that's a nice thing.

Ram really put it out on the line for him and I think this is a good payback. Because without his father's help, he would be a failure. He'd be looking at a future where he'd work at that stupid bar. He sidles up to the bar in orders from Quark, a root beer because he's trying to get into like earth culture.

Yeah, he wants to get a taste for it. And then the button on the episode is a scene between Odo back to scene between Odo, back to his regular Odo self and Jidziah. And it's clear that Odo feels some kind of weird shame over the way he behaved as Kersodo. Yeah, where an apology is made and in return, Dex thanks him.

She loves that she got a memory of what it's like to be a changeling. She has this new insight into what life is like for him. And he experienced the idea of like boozing and having a great meal and gambling and shit. And that all is like new for him. All of that stuff was stuff that he could never fully participate in before.

In the span of five lines, Odo goes from apologizing to saying that it was the time of his life. Clearly, he's twisted into nots here about his experience, but can't take it away. He had a great time. Yeah. Like, like a lot of great times a person has.

Tens worth a little bit of guilt. Yeah, or like all times that I have. You really want to do this. Here, now okay, okay, let's do it, do it. Did you like this episode, Ben? I did, you know, it's a high stakes bottle episode because it is a very corny premise. It's an episode where there's no dilemma or stakes or rising tension of any kind for the

vast majority of it. And then there's like a quick 10 minute dilemma at the end. But I think that they pulled it off, you know. I really love the occasional Star Trek episode where, you know, nothing is at risk it off, you know? I really love the occasional Star Trek episode where, you know, nothing is at risk at all, you know? Yeah. And I thought it was a really fascinating character study for Dex and a really fun idea to do that character study

with all of these weird actors that they've assembled for this show. Yeah. How about you, did you like the episode? To me the Joran siscoe character was so huge and got so little screen time the consequence of that scene is Rarely talked about like Cisco choked out dax They should both and like they punched each other in the face

Yeah, they should be they should be bruised and Cisco should have a fat lip for the whole episode. Like that's not continuity that we don't get in a single episode. Give us that continuity. Yeah, I mean, I think in that way it's a little bit like silence of the lambs where like Hannibal Lecter is not really on screen that much in that movie, you know? He's just on screen, I don't know, maybe like 10 or 15% of it, but it's like the thing that you remember from the movie. There is an emotional continuity to the episode that I struggle with in talking about whether or not I liked it because like there's such a peak in that scene.

It's a spike in the middle of that bell curve emotionally that it feels like a totally different episode. The stakes are totally different and we don't ever get back to there. I would have liked to have clicked and dragged the Jorin scene back one act and given that more time and consequence, I think just because it took me a long time to move on from it. And there's like, story is happening in the aftermath and I just wasn't ready to make that transition. Like, the episode presents some really interesting concepts and where it decides to give its time is maybe the part I have a difficult time reconciling. But an interesting and a fun episode, I would say.

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Hey Adam. What's that, Ben? Did you find yourself a drunk Shimoda? I'm going outside the show for mine, Ben. What? I'm giving my drunk Shimoda to the art director who made the sculpture of a dog going through a hole in Odo's quarters.

This thing is clearly how I described it. It's in the scene where DAX goes to... No, exactly where you're talking about. ...curzodo's quarters and it's framed, basically center frame. It is a character in the scene. Yeah, it's very distracting. I love that. It's been slithering around in there all after. Yeah. What do you get, Ben?

My drink, Shimoda, I guess is, I guess you'd just say it's Cisco. It's the combination of actors playing Cisco in this episode. And I guess also Joran in a weird way, because in that scene where Jetsia drops the force field in the penitentiary there on the station, when they cut to the wide shot and it's like some physical combat between Jetsia and Zesco, it is like such a bad kind of way to stunt guy. Like, Cisco stunt guy does not have the same build it as him at all. It really felt like TNG season one conspiracy fight scene in Rikers quarters. Yeah, it was a real commander roundhouse Cisco going on in this scene. Yeah, that was fun.

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This is a job security. Yeah, sure it is. Yeah, but it is also amazing that we're this far along. Yeah, pretty fun. What do you say? We figure out in what way we're going to be watching the next episode, Ben. Okay. Yeah, let's get to G Gach that biz slash game. Oh, I've got to be the roller. Yeah, it's your roll. You're required to learn as you play roll. Let me get these dice in my hand. We are currently on a very nice square. Yeah, be sure. Square 69 at the moment. A couple squares ahead is the Quark Spar episode. Yeah. Deep in the distance is an nth degree.

I don't know if that's in range. No, I don't think that's in warp range right now. I'm gonna go and roll the die. Do it. There we go. Ben, I rolled a one. Chula! Did I win?

Harvey. Another one, one the most common dice roll we seem to get in this game. It's actually a nine-sided die with a bunch of ones on it We advance one squared square 70 and Another regular ass episode of the show. Yeah Love it. Love it. Just the same Me too. You know what else I love Adam People that go to Apple Podcasts or whatever podcast reviewing place they might go to leave

a nice review of our show. It's like a polling place to accept for podcasts. Yeah, get the show from your pod place. Yeah, five stars, you know, don't bother if it's less than that. Tell the people why you like it. Put some positive comments on the internet to outweigh all the negative bullshit that's on there. Speaking of stars, I was digging back

through the greatest Gen Contour. I did just some light accounting to figure out the venues that we played this year. And in doing that research, I found that we have two reviews on Ticketmaster for greatest gen contour. One of them is five stars, one of them is one star. Someone fucking one star at the greatest gen contour. Damn. I don't think that's right. I think we gave minimum two stars of entertainment on that tour. I am shocked. If

you're a ticket master person, definitely go on there and let them know what you thought. I think a lot of people left our shows very satisfied with what they sell. I blindsided myself because I no longer read reviews or comments, and I got myself with that. Yeah. I got stunted on by that review.

Yeah. And if you did that, fuck that. Yeah. I got stunted on by that review. Yeah, and if you did that, fuck you. Yeah. Seriously, this show isn't for you if you don't like Greatest GenCon. Give me a fucking break. Yeah. Greatest GenCon is probably our greatest artistic achievement today. I'm ready to quit.

I'm not gonna go on tour anymore after that. That's... I'm laying down my fart sword. You turn your fart sword to plowshares? Yeah. Not too late for a show title, Ben. You watch, I'm going to name the show not too late for a show title, like even later than yours.

Yeah. What else should people do? They should go on the social medias, connect with the friends of DeSoto, hashtag greatest gen con, Facebook Reddit, etc. All of the great places. You know, go out there and talk to like-minded cool people. They're doing great animations, they're making fan art, they're posing questions. It's a lot of fun.

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