The Greatest Generation - Syndicated Acne (VOY S7E8)

Episode Date: January 8, 2024

When Harry Kim talks his way into command of baby’s first away mission, his Nick Burns approach to management is doing no one any favors. But when Icheb misunderstands BLT’s interest in rock climb...ing for romance, he tries to let her down easy after blowing up his scanner in a very steamy Jeffries tube. Do starship windows have emergency levers? Who isn’t taking advantage of the luxury of cilantro? What’s the best part of making lasagne? It’s the episode that’s hitting all the low notes!Support the production of The Greatest Generation.Friends of DeSoto for Democracy.Friends of DeSoto for Justice. Friends of DeSoto for Labor.Follow The Game of Buttholes: The Will of the Caretaker!Music by Adam Ragusea & Dark MateriaFollow The Greatest Generation on Twitter, and discuss the show using the hashtag #GreatestGen!The Greatest Generation is on YouTube.Facebook group | Subreddit | Discord | WikiSign up for our mailing list!Get a thing at podshop.biz!

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Starting point is 00:01:16 I'm Captain, I'm Captain, I'm Captain, I'm Captain, I'm Captain, I'm Captain, I'm Captain, I'm Captain, I'm Captain, I'm Captain, I'm Captain, I'm Captain, I'm Captain, I'm Captain, I'm Captain, I'm Captain, I'm Captain, I'm Captain, I'm Ben Harrison. Good morning, Ben. I'm Adam Pryanaka. I really have Morning Voice, don't I? You do. You really sound like you do. Oh. It's the best voice, isn't it? Man, I think it is.
Starting point is 00:01:35 I hope I had come up with a like a berry white song parody spontaneously at some point over the course of today's recording, because I could really do those notes. Whoa! Do it again! Do what you do this? You don't want me to do this the whole show. You've never been a cigarette smoker, right? Like this is all morning, boys. There's no, like, lung damage to this. I tried very hard to be a cigarette smoker when I was in college, because I was, you know, I was living in New York, I was in the village, NYU. You needed anything you could to be cool.
Starting point is 00:02:14 I get it. I couldn't do it. I bought myself a pack of cigarettes and my roommates all left for a weekend and I was like, I'm gonna sit in this dorm room and smoke all weekend and get myself. And destroy your roommates belongings. Well, I was like puffing out through the windows. But none of my roommates were not smokers, by the way. Oh, okay.
Starting point is 00:02:35 They'd already ruined their belonging. That's an important part of this story. Yeah, it didn't take. I'm glad it didn't. That's a tough habit to break. Mistakes were made. I mean, it was a bad thought that I had to try to become a smoker. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:02:50 I also, it will surprise no one to learn that I bought like a very fancy pack of cigarettes. Oh God. I just cashed a very large bet. Thank you. All I do is bet, bet, bet. Don't matter what. Thank you for saying that. Yeah, yeah.
Starting point is 00:03:09 So this is like a $30 pack of European cigarettes that you got. It wasn't European. I think it was American spirit red organic. So like, big beefy. The best worst you could do. Yeah, like handcrafted cigarette, kind of a deal. And yeah, it wasn't, it didn't take.
Starting point is 00:03:29 But it sounds like it took. This voice is partly down to the fact that I was up with my buds playing D&D last night and you know, eating pizza and drinking glasses of rum. You know, this would had been a great cigarette night when you describe it like that. I know. But they just didn't take.
Starting point is 00:03:48 Or like, you know, I hosted and I wasn't gonna allow people to smoke in the house, but there have been joints in play at these D&D gatherings in the past. Yeah, a role for Spliff. Yeah, not at houses where there's a baby sleeping through a thin home depot grade door. Sure. Yeah, not at houses where there's a baby sleeping through a thin home depot grade door. Sure. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:04:09 Yeah. I'm glad you let the FOTs know that the drone is not in any danger of secondhand weed smoke. And that household. He sure isn't. Well, we're up early. Let's get this fucking episode down. You got to take a drive down to
Starting point is 00:04:25 San Diego. Yeah. I got to record all my ads for this week and get a bunch of emails sent out. Yeah. This might be the earliest record we've ever done. Eight in the AM. Eight AM. We got a dime holding up a dollar, Adam. Let's record this bad boy. Alright, Bennett. Star Trek Voyager season seven, episode eight, Nightingale. Reaver course. Unless you've got something a little bigger in your torpedo toots, I'm not turning around.
Starting point is 00:04:54 Oh, yeah. Blue Alert. Blue Alert. I wanted five more minutes of this scene. Ha, ha, ha, ha. Voyagers on the ground doing heavy maintenance. I wanted five more minutes of this scene. Voyagers on the ground doing heavy maintenance. And this is like sometimes when I'm playing Siv or when I used to play Sim City,
Starting point is 00:05:14 I wouldn't even like take my turn right away. I just want to watch the activity. Yeah. And this is that scene, like the scale of what's going on to the ship, all the people scurrying around on a tall yeah the little shuttles flying around carrying parts and so forth yeah the the shuttles are sort of being used as like forklifts and cranes I love this I love it so much I never thought of that do you think a forklift shuttle rating is different from a shuttle rating in that like more people on the crew are forklift shuttle certified than shuttle pilot certified?
Starting point is 00:05:53 Oh, yeah. I have a class two rating. Or is it harder to do it that way? Like the shuttles are kind of designed for atmospheric entry and stuff, they're not necessarily built for hovering in one specific spot as they delicately lower a chunk of a nacell into the ship, right? That's the thing about driving a fork lift and operating its forks is like,
Starting point is 00:06:19 there is a lot of fine detail, blurping of the joystick. Yeah. And I gotta believe you're not doing too much of that when you're at flight in a shuttle. Because like the thing about that fine detail, blurping is that you're working against a machine that has a ton of inertia on its side.
Starting point is 00:06:38 Yeah. And is like firmly sitting on the ground. And a shuttle, a gust of wind, is going to knock that chunk in the cell against the sidewall. You might damage it. Yeah, you can't have that. That's not a sellable piece of warpness L right there. Yeah, bandage against the hull. The starship facts is going to come back bad. Yeah. What did you make of the scale of the ship? Because there's no better moment in Star Trek than to perceive at scale when the ship is on the ground
Starting point is 00:07:15 and people are actually walking on it. Yeah. I wish I wasn't so disappointed. Like Voyager always felt bigger to me and when you see the ship on the ground like this and you see it compared To the people walking on it. It just kind of seems like an office building in the valley You know and that doesn't seem like it's it's ship size you wanted to seem like Biggest cruise ship currently in service. It is not cruise ship size.
Starting point is 00:07:45 It's not even maybe half cruise ship size. I mean, the crew go in is so much smaller than the D. And I guess that sort of makes sense in that context. So you compare saucer on the ground scene with Voyager on the ground. It's a totally different situation here. It really is. So this is a big maintenance overhaul that
Starting point is 00:08:05 BLT has been begging the captain to let her do for a while. And we learn as BLT and the captain are marching around the ship that we are six days away from having warp drive back. Chico T is like, so if you just beg the captain long enough, eventually show her lent. Interesting. Sounds great. Looks like a change in strategy is in store for Chickotay. Yeah, so lots of work going on in the engineering section.
Starting point is 00:08:40 We catch up with each eb who has affected a brief power fluctuation so that he could fix something. And when you're on a film set and a light goes out, it's a big deal. You're supposed to call out to let people know it's intentional when you're shutting something off so that it doesn't cause a panic in the electrical department. Each of is not doing that. You know, he just,
Starting point is 00:09:07 he just shows up after the lights come back and he's like, yeah, that was me. You don't get promotions on a film set for fixing a problem you caused either. No, you sure don't. So, but this does really impress BLT and Janeway. I tell you're capable of a lot more than delivering pads each. So each step gets kind of secunded to the engineering crew as they do this maintenance or we're all. And I really took exception to the way Janeway characterized
Starting point is 00:09:38 this as she marched out of engineering because she really undermined the rest of the engineering staff. She's like, maybe you'll get something done finally. Yeah, I don't love that at all. That's kind of real terrible. What's with the attitude this episode, Janeway? You've been toiling down in the guts of this ship for seven fucking years while this captain gets you stranded and then gets you in all kinds of danger on the way home.
Starting point is 00:10:08 And then you finally get a chance to do the big maintenance overhaul and in the process of promoting like a 15-year-old dickhead to your crew. Yeah. She makes this characterization of the kind of work you do? I feel like there needed to be an extra tag to why she's so upset and why she wants this done so much faster, like maybe the air smells like shit.
Starting point is 00:10:35 Because that's one of the qualities of being on the ground that's so cool, like the light and the fresh air has got to be just a trip if you're working on the ship. And maybe the planet they've chosen is just bad for that. Yeah, she did say something about I wish we could open all the windows, right? Yeah, yeah, but in that exterior shot, the doors are open, the cargo bay doors are open
Starting point is 00:11:01 and some other hatches and so forth. I just think that probably most of the windows installed in a Starship are non-operable, you know, it's not like there's like a bug screen on the outside of Those windows. Do you think Starship windows are like subway or train windows where like with with a lever those things are coming out In case of emergency. Yeah. Oh boy. Probably not.
Starting point is 00:11:31 Yeah, I don't think so. You know the Delta Flyers got those windows, right? In the case of a crash landing. Yeah. And that's where Nelix and Kim are at the moment. Nelix sleeping upright. Yeah. I mean, this is kind of the exact same config
Starting point is 00:11:48 is the beginning of the last episode. I thought, except for you to swap out Nelix from Mark. Oh, hi, Mark. Right. And everybody's annoyed at Nelix now. Ha, ha, ha, ha. As you would be for any length of time. And again, the Delta Fire is cut in the middle of a space
Starting point is 00:12:07 battle. This time, not one that they are directly involved in. It's two ships set tripping, and the Delta Fire just happens to be in space in between them. One of those ships is cloaked. What do you make of the logic of this scene? Like, the Delta Fire is minding its own damn business and this cloaked ship has chosen to drive in front of it.
Starting point is 00:12:33 Is that a useful thing for the cloaked ship to have done? Maybe it's like when you're trying to hide your radar signature as an airplane and you fly right under the mig that you're, you know. Yeah. Yeah. So in this analogy, the Delta flyers, the mig. Yeah. The Delta flyers, the mig, Maverick is flying this cloak ship. Maybe, yeah.
Starting point is 00:12:55 And if it's like a bit of a dirty cloak, this could help conceal where they are from the other ship. It's not working. I like this quick reveal, though, because it seems for a moment like these are warning shots, being shot in front, like shot in the path of the Delta flyer, but no, these are actually hitting the target, which is this cloak chip. Yeah. This is the moment that leads to theme, and after the theme, Kim wants to bug out of there. Yeah. They get a FaceTime from a guy that is just covered in burger over on the ships that got
Starting point is 00:13:29 tagged. And he's saying something about humanitarian mission. And Kim is like, how did you even know that word? I'm very named racist. I love how Kim gets two bites of the retreat apple. He's like, all right, we're getting the fuck out of here. And then the guy gets on the FaceTime, like, help us. Kim's like, all right, we're still turning around.
Starting point is 00:13:51 And Nelix takes great umbrage with this. Both of these choices. Nelix and Sevin, the non-star fleets are like, come on, Harry, like this is bad. If you leave these guys, it's bad and you'll be bad. Like, Harry, there might be a lady on board. Ha ha ha. Covered in hamburger meat.
Starting point is 00:14:13 Yeah. There's no girl, not this time. Get out, Harry. He's like kind of sighting chapter in verse to them. He's like the Starfleet policy is that if you're observing two alien species getting in some kind of conflict with each other, you don't intervene. And going and helping these people
Starting point is 00:14:32 would definitely be an intervention. And we could just avoid the whole situation if we don't, but they really make him feel bad. And so there is an away mission to this ship that has been kind of characterized as a medical ship. This is a crucial moment in the episode. Kim does a little magic trick to the attacking ship and and gets them to fuck off before they beam on board the damage ship. Yeah, yeah, he overloads their weapons
Starting point is 00:15:09 with a deflector pulse. They should do this more often. If this is a thing you can do. For some reason, Kim chooses Nelix as the second in this Deathbustard Club. And when they get on board this damage ship, it's girders all over the place. Oh, man, so many deads and so much burger meat.
Starting point is 00:15:31 They should really have a barbecue. The captain caught a girder, half the crew is dead. Yeah. And these people that Kim and Nielix are talking to, they're not the crew of the ship. They style themselves as passengers, so they're not going to be a lot of help. Ron Glass is playing Loken, who is one of the people that describes himself as a passenger, and Ron Glass has had a great career. He's been in a bunch of other, specifically sci-fi
Starting point is 00:16:02 things that I've really enjoyed. You think they call him Mr. Glass? Probably. Yeah, they got to do that. I thought it was so interesting how he felt super high status the second he walked in, despite not claiming to be in the rank structure of this ship. Does Logan have Riz? Is that what this is? I think he's got the Riz.
Starting point is 00:16:26 Like, if he had a badge, it would be low as hell. Yeah, it'd be on the tip of his boot. So as good as it gets. Yeah, he's great. So, you know, they're talking about, oh yeah, like, there's all these vaccines on this ship ship and we need to get them to our planet because we're in this war with these other assholes. And this is a bad situation for us. So Kim works on getting emergency power back. And it's amazing. Kim seems to know more about how this ship works
Starting point is 00:17:01 than the survivors on board the ship. It's amazing. He's like a magician in there. Digging in those computer guts, hitting switches and things blur back online. No problem. But the thing that the passengers really want, more than a functional drive or light or even air is this cloak. The cloak is the thing they want.
Starting point is 00:17:24 More than friends, more than family. Yeah. Yeah, they get the cloak back because the cloak is the thing that is of greatest importance to them. What about the body? Should we clean up the bodies? Nope. Yeah, cloak. We kind of like how it smells. Cloak first. So there's also this junior officer guy and he is like really like, wow, you must be like in charge of everything where you come from because I'm a junior officer and I don't know shit. And Harry's like, no, I'm also a super junior officer.
Starting point is 00:17:59 And it's kind of junior officer without game, recognize junior officer with game here. This guy is Tarrick. And he, like, a lot of people on the ship, sort of looked to me like they were wearing breadbasket uniforms of the old Romulan kind. You know what I mean? Totally.
Starting point is 00:18:21 Really strong shoulders. Agreed on this one issue an alien Loaf that shorter reminded me of bejora and the way it folds over at the nose Mm-hmm, then they got weird ears too. Yeah. He's got a lot of questions questions that for a younger person might sound very annoying But he wants to know what mean Ensign? What mean Starfleet? Why aren't you a captain, Harry Kim? And Harry's like, man, I can't believe you guys know the word humanitarian,
Starting point is 00:18:55 but you don't know the word Ensign. Kim is great here. He tries to be positive about their circumstances. He's like, look, I've endured warp drive failures and attacks from alien species and venereal disease, dozens and dozens of times over the course of my mission. You guys will be fine. You guys will get through this. In the last seven years, I can count on one hand how many days it didn't burn when I peed. This guy may not have fucked the wrong woman yet, but he will.
Starting point is 00:19:27 Oh, he will. You just gotta stick with the Derek. You think you're having regrets now? That's when you'll have regrets. Down the line. We cut back to Voyager. We get another one of these establishing shots of the exterior of the ship parked on the planet's surface.
Starting point is 00:19:44 God, just wanna fucking slam that into my arm. Yeah. The best. Then we go to a cargo bay where each heb is doing some work at a console while having sad desk salad. He reads this kind of a tenon bomb here, doesn't he? Yeah, I guess so. I was also just distracted by like the upright barrels on top of high shelves all over this carcobay.
Starting point is 00:20:11 Yeah. Those are backbreakers right there. That's what they're called after the incident with Wurf. Yeah, when Klingon Balana walks into the room, I'm like, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no,, uninteresting, unpalatable, whatever. Nutritional supplements replicated to meet my metabolic requirements. Sounds delicious. You'll look at this plate of food that each of's eating.
Starting point is 00:20:54 Yeah. This looks like nachos, right? This is a plate of nachos. How do you miss like this? It looks like unloaded nachos specifically. There's no cut up pickled jalapenos, there's no cilantro, there's no pico de gallo. So I'm mostly getting just chips, mostly just chips like nothing on them.
Starting point is 00:21:15 Each chip is this your idea of a bland meal? You know, it actually doesn't look that dissimilar from like a less wet version of what I've got over here. Yeah, from here, when you do what I do, it's mostly chiliquilés. Just mopping those around on the floor. What I wouldn't give for a crisp chip. Hey, why don't you have cilantro? You have the luxury of cilantro and you're not taking advantage of it?
Starting point is 00:21:57 Inroles BLT, who observes the plate of not fully loaded nachos and that he's working through lunch. And she seems concerned about him in a way BLT has not been concerned about anyone in her entire career. This is suspicious to be. So you're saying that each of has good cause to be thinking that maybe something ulterior is going on in this moment. I thought so. Well, why does she want to go rock climbing with me all of a sudden? And why does she want to go first? It's not about the rocks each step.
Starting point is 00:22:34 It's about the climbing. She is talking about fun and enjoyment. These are themes that were pretty heavily involved in the previous episode with seven, like not ever thinking it's worth it to replicate some food that would actually taste good. You know, you just replicate the food that gets you your nutritional needs met.
Starting point is 00:22:58 Eachib doesn't exactly give her an answer to the invitation either. Come on, eachib. Are you in or are you out? I take go for it and do let her go first. The view is nice. We cut over to the damaged ship where things are looking back to normal and Kim is ready to throw the keys
Starting point is 00:23:20 back to the crew, the problem is no one on this ship knows how to drive stick. And that's a problem. Couldn't maybe Kim be the captain now? Look at him. Look at him. Is he the captain now? And he's like,
Starting point is 00:23:37 you know, I'm gonna just put in like some nav information and I'll show Tara how to like push down the clutch, you know, but I really got to go guys and they're like, it'll see a thousand of lives. And I was like, oh you guys. This is why, by and large, people don't like doing favors for strangers because there's always the second ask that they're afraid of. It's not that they're afraid of doing the initial favor, it's that follow-up. Yeah. And that's what this is.
Starting point is 00:24:10 Now it's a thing. You're wrong. Thank you. Thank you so very much. Just bring the TV in and stick it in the fireplace there and go. So if you see someone broken down on the side of a rural highway somewhere, you just blow on by. You do one thing for them and that's it.
Starting point is 00:24:32 And you say that up top. I'm here to give you a canteen of water, but I'm getting the fuck out after that. The thing that works here for this favor is that the path of the ship is going to take them past Revojaro's anyway. So what they offer to do is like look we're gonna get off when we get near Voyager and then you can take it the rest of the way but sure I'll drive the ship up until then. They're really good news for them also because they get to park the Delta flyer in the hold of a cloak ship. Oh yeah. You know. Yeah they're just gonna leave it in there.
Starting point is 00:25:05 How many opportunities do you get to be cloaked when you're in Starfleet? This is fun. Yeah. Yeah. I mean, how many opportunities does Kim have to be captain? This reads as the first time, but I think the real danger here
Starting point is 00:25:18 is making Nelix a real bridge officer, and that's also what's happened. Yeah. It's fun to do bad things though. Yeah. And he smokes cigarettes. Why don't you try it? You want to be here and do it, do it.
Starting point is 00:25:30 Do it, do it, do it, do it, do it, do it, do it, do it, do it, do it, do it, do it, do it, do it, do it, do it. I mean, right away the ship gets to the planet where Voyager has been doing its repairs, but unfortunately, three Anari ships are in orbit. And I'd love the hero shot of Harry Kim into the commercial here. This is great. It is great. The Anari are the guys that they are trying to avoid. And when we're back from the Kim Is to commercial, the reveal is that the Anari are a pretty friendly group when you aren't right in between them and their prey. So Chicote and the captain are giving this Anari due to a tour of the ship and talking about trades that they could be getting into with each other.
Starting point is 00:26:21 This could be a very profitable relationship for them. Everyone's happy, it's going great. The awkward part happens when Kim blows in a call, asking if everything is okay. Yeah, but like Kim is pretty clever about how he does this. He's the one to speak, he doesn't give up the game on comms. He's, it's a voice call and not a face time. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:26:49 He's smart. And, and like, I know this is unfair, but a little bit suspicious right off the bat of the inari just because like some of their loaf is vaguely cardassy and looking. Oh, yeah. It's a bad reputation. Yeah. I don't know if they've been tired with the curdy brush or not, but it sort of looks like they have on Kim ship after the call is over, Logan, he's really pissed off about this because this looks like an alliance that's forming between Voyager and the Anari. And Kim is like, no, we like being friends with everyone. We like sitting at every table in the lunch room.
Starting point is 00:27:23 Mm-hmm. You see this fence? I love riding this thing. Yeah. Yeah, and this isn't really in this scene anyway, enough for Logan to feel much better about what's going on here. Logan has on the one hand no love for anyone
Starting point is 00:27:41 who will fucks with an anari, but on the other hand, great need in terms of the skills that Harry Kim is bringing to the table. Yeah. He and his guys can't get their ship where it needs to go without Harry Kim. So he can't just throw Harry Kim to the wolves right now. It's almost as though he's willing to put up
Starting point is 00:28:01 with a lot of shit in order to accomplish his goals. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Same. Afterwards, Kim introduces Loken to Janeway aboard Voyager in the conference room, a conference room, which is lit by a natural light. Oh, and it is so gorgeous. So pretty.
Starting point is 00:28:22 I loved it. Much like the light streaming into the studio this morning, and it looks like your studio beautifully bathed in the morning light, just as mine is. Yeah. Pretty nice. So gorgeous. I mean, the viewers would probably appreciate it if we did this. I know the listeners would.
Starting point is 00:28:43 This is as low as my voice gets. I can't get any lower. I get any lower as soon like Charles Brunson. Hey, things can be worse. And after the meeting is over, Janeway kind of lights into Kim. She's like, look, I'm the one that does diplomacy. I'm the one that makes decisions like these.
Starting point is 00:29:08 But also, I probably would have done the same thing as you given the necessity of the aid you were able to provide here. Maybe it's just the beautiful natural light bathing this room, but here's a light-scoulding. You've put me in a difficult position, Ensign. She's like, all right, I'm going to delegate this mission now and Kim is like, no, no, I want this one. I started it, let me finish it. I love the the chutzpah of getting in trouble from your boss and turning that into a,
Starting point is 00:29:42 like, give me more responsibility at work, like, take more risks on me, moment for Kim. I wish I had had the wherewithal to do this. In the many work environments I got into trouble, you know? Oh my God. Like, to turn my dipshitness into, like, a managerial opportunity for someone else would have been great for all involved. You just sometimes have to help the manager see that your dipshitness is an asset like a managerial opportunity for someone else would have been great for all involved.
Starting point is 00:30:05 You just sometimes have to help the manager see that your dipshitness is an asset. Yeah, I mean, until you put pen to paper on your performance review saying stuff like that, it's a... Right. Adam is chaotic and often misses readings for no apparent reason.
Starting point is 00:30:25 It's a lot like the tone of a text message being missed. Like, you shouldn't write it down in your performance appraisal. Oh, man, I, yeah, I had it. I wrote an email this morning that I like, I was like the more flowery like language I put into this, the bigger dick I come across as, I feel. Yeah, you gotta get that out of there. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:30:49 It was just a question and I just deleted everything that wasn't the question. I hope this email finds you well. What the fuck is happening? Okay. Have you noticed that Harry Kim kind of has a catch phrase now? The what the hell is going on? Yeah, but I don't think that's his.
Starting point is 00:31:10 I think Riker started what the hell is going on here. Oh really? Yeah. Oh, what the hell is going on? But I do like, I have room in my heart for both deliveries. Yeah. What the hell is going on? I really appreciate his delivery of it.
Starting point is 00:31:26 Well, so he gets baby's first mission, and it is captaining the craylor ship, but he's going to have a babysitter. This is maybe the most insulting part of the entire thing. Janeways like, well, seven's not in the rank structure, so she'll go with you to keep an eye on the situation, but you'll be in charge kind of.
Starting point is 00:31:50 Fucking Seven cannot get out of babysitting duty. Can she suck? Did she prefer babysitting each heb or babysitting Harry Kim? I don't know. I have no idea. They both seem like a bad deal for her, right? Yeah.
Starting point is 00:32:08 Yeah. Over in Six Bay, each of tells Dr. Mark that he's there to repair a hollow emitter, but he's really there to ask about social lessons. That he's heard that the doctor teaches, there's a reason for this, a hypothetical reason, and that is what to do about someone having a crush on you.
Starting point is 00:32:31 Yeah, he has observed some things that he is interpreting as signs that BLT wants to fuck, and he would like to just have a little bit more, you know, a few more tools in his toolbox to interpret these signs and to be really sure what he thinks is happening is actually happening before he takes an action. Do you ever think about how quickly each of
Starting point is 00:32:58 has matured since arriving on the ship? Like a couple of months ago, each of was a borgs. Yeah. Having like gone through the maturation chamber process, like he's new to solid food. And now he's asking about crushes and shit. Yeah. Hey, doctor, what's this boner about?
Starting point is 00:33:21 Ha. Ha. Well, I mean, that partly gotta be his age, right? Like when you're that age, like the testosterone flooding your system is kind of hard to ignore. Yeah. Yeah. Oh, I... Now that I'm 40, it's great.
Starting point is 00:33:38 I don't have to think about it ever. Yeah, once the T flies off a cliff, not a problem. But jam is fiddled out better in the morning. Yeah, those middle of the night get up to peace. Much easier to accomplish. There's no certainty in this. This is the problem for each of you. He wants to know for sure.
Starting point is 00:34:01 How do you know for sure that someone has a crush on you and the docs like, well, you know, there's the touching and the hair twirling and the asking for hangs and so forth. But there's also like medical stuff, you know, like increased heart rate, pupil dilation, sweatiness. And like after hearing about this, each of wheels around and leaves. Yeah. Each of's got this thing solved. I think that that's a very funny piece of writing. The idea that a poor would be like,
Starting point is 00:34:33 okay, there's like a binary. Like the second the body does this, this, and this, you know for sure. Yeah. Which is a fair misinterpretation of what the, you know, made you saying. It's true. Thank you, doctor. You've been very helpful.
Starting point is 00:34:46 We catch up with Paris in the hallway and he is running after Harry Kim, who, uh, you know, is about to go on his big mission in Paris. It's like, take me with you. I'm so bored! No fun costumes here for Harry and Paris. Yeah, just checking in on Harry and Paris fun costume note card here. And yeah, this is a couple episodes down where nothing. No flight suit, no sports uniforms, no black and white costumes. Nothing.
Starting point is 00:35:21 Objection noted, we'll do this without you. Do it. Do it. Objection noted, we'll do this without you, do it. Get to do it. Get to do it. Objection noted, we'll do this without you, do it. Get to do it. Get to do it. Get to do it. Paris takes some umbrage with the idea of not being invited on this mission. Paris invites Kim on all the missions.
Starting point is 00:35:38 Yeah. And Kim points out like whenever I'm on a mission with you, you outrank me. And yeah, I'm sick of being the second fiddle. No more Mr. Sidekick guy. I don't wanna be Henshin. Sikahenshin. Yeah. And Paris I think rightly suspects that there's a girl involved.
Starting point is 00:35:59 But I would have suspected the lip thing that's going on with Garrett Wong. Hmm. I didn't notice the lips. I always get a little acne. Did the lip thing that's going on with Garrett Wong? Hmm. I didn't notice the lips. Oh, is he got a little acne? I don't know. It seems like he's got a little lip thing.
Starting point is 00:36:11 And I hesitated to bring this up because sometimes I'll have a face or a lip thing. Yeah. And that's got to be no fun when you're an actor. Yeah. Yeah, you're like, cool. So this is going on film and then it's going to be on TV for Redbur. Yeah. Yeah. I'm going to be on TV. Bo Redbur. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:36:31 Yeah, I'm going to go to the dermatologist and tell them that, uh, I've got syndicated acne. Anything for that? No. Kim winds up in Neelix's restaurant and Neelix comes up to him with a couple of lunch options. And Kim is like, I'm not really sure. I'm just here to do a little work on my iPad. So just bring whatever's easiest. Your service is too slow. Are you telling me you have to go up to every customer
Starting point is 00:37:00 and tell them what the specials are? You obviously need to put the menu on the wall. Shut it down. The POS system is just two giant colored blocks for a low-meek soup and eggplant parm. The advice that Nielix gives is like, you know, the captain comes in here. She shoots from the hip.
Starting point is 00:37:23 She knows what she wants when she comes down here. And if you're gonna be taking on a captainy role in your mission, you gotta have that kind of confidence, buddy. That's easy for Nelix to say the captain always orders vegetable broth. Like she has her power order. What I would have done if I were Nelix is like, you gotta come up with your order.
Starting point is 00:37:44 That's your thing that you get every time. That is not what happens, but I did like that Kim ordered the soup because we know to be a truly confident, Starfleet captain, you gotta have your captain soup. You really do, yeah, and then you take your leftovers in a thermos. Yeah, put it right there on the chair next to you.
Starting point is 00:38:05 That's what the greats do. Yeah. Here's the thing with a choice like this, Ben. It's really, it's less about soup versus eggplant, parm, and more about what kind of day do you want to have after lunch? I get this is where you really shine as the co-host of this show because I've never like, I'm never thinking in those terms. I'm like, oh yeah, the eggplant parm sounds a little heartier.
Starting point is 00:38:32 I'm going to get that. That would absolutely be what you order for lunch. And there is a 0% chance I would order eggplant parm for any lunch ever. One of the great joys of going out to lunch with you is whatever I order, you're, you're just like shake your head in marvel. You're an incredible machine, Ben. So Harry takes the bridge of his new ship and you know, kinda shows Taric where his station is, but then kinda does Taric's work for him. The second he sits down.
Starting point is 00:39:12 Good deal for Taric. Yeah. Was that so hard? Harry Kim learns that this ship just has kind of a number and a description. It does not have a name. Yeah. Yeah, I think he can do something about that.
Starting point is 00:39:25 Yeah. I thought he should have named it after an ex-girlfriend. Mmm. The SESCA. That would have been fun. I mean, that's Chico Tei's ex-girlfriend. That's a power move if he tells Chico Tei that he named it SESCA. She's a vicious life-sucking bitch from which there's no escape.
Starting point is 00:39:46 I think that there's a pretty good chance that Harry knocked boots with sesca at least once. That my sesca. She a real bad bitch. That lasted 22 minutes. She wouldn't do something like this. He dubs the ship the night and gale and the way they warp. Is that problematic? I mean, the thing about Florence night and gale
Starting point is 00:40:10 is the effect, right? The unfortunate effect more than the reputation for great caregiving. Oh, I don't know. It's night and gale. I don't really know that much about her. I don't know much about her, but I know she was a nurse and I know the effect is about a caregiver falling in love with their patient.
Starting point is 00:40:32 Oh, really? That seems hairy, right? I guess so, yeah. Check out the pictures, though. Kind of hot. Yeah. Florence Nightingale was a dime. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:40:42 This is a triumphant moment for Harry Kim, right? Yeah. He smashes a bottle against the hull, the newly christened, Dightingale, and then takes her out. And then we cut to the ready room where he's like putting out captain's trinkets. He's really getting set up.
Starting point is 00:40:57 This had to be embarrassing, right? Because you got to pass through the bridge to get to the ready room. And there was a moment that we don't see here where Harry Kim is carrying a saxophone. Oh yeah, it's all sticking out the top of a banker's box, right? Like, when he was leaving Voyager,
Starting point is 00:41:15 do you think people were like, did Harry Kim get fired? It goes completely unspoken, but that Harry Kim plays all woodwinds and not just the clarinet, I think is cool as hell. He's leaving the clarinet on voyageries, taking the sax with him to the nightingale. Pretty cool. It's a big sax, too, right?
Starting point is 00:41:38 That's like a bass saxophone, I think. Yeah, I think it's a tenor sax. Okay. If I recall. There's a bass even bigger than that? The baritone saxophone is a beast. I played that in high school. Oh, really?
Starting point is 00:41:51 Oh, boy. That baritone sax goes as deep as your voice in the morning. Wow. Does having an instrument that big like? Fill me with tea. Yeah. Get you in good with girls in the band. You know, like are the band girls impressed by your big horn?
Starting point is 00:42:10 I blew it with so many girls in the band. Just be in a fucking idiot. And you blew it! My strategy in high school was not to blow it with any girls by just not even trying. By smoking real cigarettes. I saved that for college. Come on. Your main issue where your many attempts at smoking throughout your youth.
Starting point is 00:42:37 There was a fence at your daycare and there's tiny band out there. Mm-hmm. Smoking by the feds. What's the French cigarette, Genois? Gauvoirs. Smoking baby, Gauvoirs. Yeah, my little tiny t-shirt sleeve rolled up over the huge pack. Yeah. That's what you do. Seven comes in, she's got the hourly update
Starting point is 00:43:06 on how the ship is going and she's like, what are you doing? We're staying in this hotel for two nights. You don't need to put stuff in the dressers. Like, what are you talking about? Just leave it in the suitcase, man. We toured so much this year, more than we ever have. Did you ever go in the dresser? We were never anywhere long enough for me to go in the dresser.
Starting point is 00:43:29 Yeah. I usually do. If it's a three night or longer stay, I like to unpack and get the suitcase out of there so that, because if you leave the suitcase out for more than a couple of days, the room just turns into a mess if you're not careful. I feel like dressers are a great way to lose your clothes
Starting point is 00:43:48 and leave them behind. I'm using hangers, I'm never using a drawer. I use the drawers and I've never lost anything. Cause I know if I've used them, I've got to check them. You know? All that money I won on that initial bet this episode God washed out day because you Didn't forget clothes in a drawer ever
Starting point is 00:44:16 No, never once. I'm really impressed. That's awesome. I do lose shit, but not that way. Mm-hmm. I Love sevens take here. Can't believe a saxophone is in your ready room. It's incredible. Why have you brought these items aboard? It's not a good use of your time is what she's saying. Yeah, and further bad use of your time is giving everybody commands and then going ahead
Starting point is 00:44:43 and just doing the command for them. Yeah, the coolest part about being a captain is just delegating and then sitting back, drinking your soup. Delegating is not something he's used to doing. So he's struggling with that aspect of command and seven is really trying to talk him into like just let them like make mistakes and shit. It's fine. You can, you know, like people learn from mistakes just the way you did and Harry just ignores this.
Starting point is 00:45:08 He goes out and it's like all up in Terrick's business, like putting his hands under Terrick's arm so that he can like push buttons on his keyboard and then it just shoves him out of the way. Move! Yeah, Kim is really Nick Burns, your company's computer guy about this situation. Oh, by the way, you're welcome.
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Starting point is 00:50:06 He's reaching for computer chips. Their hands meet in the middle. He knows what's up. When she goes through the roof of that Jeffries 2, he scans that ass. Ha-ha-ha. Oh. Off the charts.
Starting point is 00:50:25 That's it. This ass is. Whoa. Yeah, you see the measurement on the screen of the tricorder like blow through the side of the screen. Yeah, tricorder gets hot. Like a new iPhone. Bubbles over. Yeah. Back on the night and gale, there are some beeps that tell the crew that the cloak is about to fail. And then it does.
Starting point is 00:50:51 And then the cloak room, it's clear that Logan wants to be careful. This is a very important piece of tech, a very high dollar value. Yeah. And Kim just wants to get everything done his way, his way or the highway, and seven calls out as shit after this incident. He's not letting these people learn or gain confidence. Do you get what I'm saying here, Kim? Do you understand? Like now two full scenes about this. Yeah. You're a bad captain, Harry Kim. That's the point that I'm trying to make here. You fucking suck.
Starting point is 00:51:27 Yeah. And it's like, it's like they get the cloak back and then it's like a smash cut to another experience where the cloak is failing. And now anari vessels are catching them. And it's like a lot of them. Six vessels, they're gonna get killed. Do you think there's a number of enemy vessels? Like, you think there's a rule
Starting point is 00:51:48 when you're writing Star Trek about how many is the max? I feel like six is the max. Six is a lot. Yeah, unless you're doing like a dominion war scene. Six is probably where you cap out. Yeah. They don't have the defenses for six ships. The scene was very interesting to me
Starting point is 00:52:06 because it suddenly seems so potentially deadly. And I don't feel like Kim really gave voice to this in his conversation with Janeway. Like, I know that seven and I will be putting our lives on the line for these people, but I think it's worth it, you know, for the vaccines or anything. Like, it seemed like a pretty low stakes adventure
Starting point is 00:52:30 he was asking for permission to go on. Yeah, it seemed at the time that this was gonna be like Harbor Master Duty for Harry Kim and not for, which is what it turned out to be. Now the Anari are gonna shoot his ass. I don't know, just trying stuff. Poor seven tries to repair things in another area and gets a blast of rocks to the face, both she and another person go down because of these rocks. What do they do when keeping Keepin' decorative rocks in your engineering area. We found these in the garden section of our local home center and we've loaded a bunch
Starting point is 00:53:13 of panels up with them for a nice festive look. Now when you buy these, you kind of want to buy them in square yards. Yeah, so that's the cloak area of the ship. And Deila gets sent down. She's one of the other people, one of the other civilian people on board. She gets sent down to try and fix the cloak while they do evasive maneuvers to get away from these anaries.
Starting point is 00:53:45 And when we cut down to the room where the cloak is, we see Dela like dragging seven's body over the threshold of the door and then closing the door behind her. She's like fully put herself in the spot box here to get ship out of danger. Yeah, she's great. Real hero turned. Yeah. If they open that door back up, they might flood the whole
Starting point is 00:54:09 compartment. I know. Yeah. So this works. They get away, but seven is, you know, passed out in a state room. And Logan comes in and he's like, how's she doing? And Harry Kim's like, man, well, I'm glad you're here. You're a very talented doctor. So why don't you tell me? Unfortunately, Logan is Dr. Nick in this situation. Hi, everybody. Hi, Dr. Nick. Not all doctors are the same.
Starting point is 00:54:40 This is where we get Harry Kim's signature catchphrase. Yeah. What the hell is going on? I don't know what you mean. Maybe the best captains move, Harry gets in this episode, is ordering the one-on-one in the Ready Room, right? This is a captain thing to do. Yeah, you and I need to talk alone. My office, now!
Starting point is 00:55:02 In this Ready Room, Loken is distracted by the saxophone, right? What is that? What do you do with it? Is it some kind of cooking device or a weapon? As curious as Tarrick was about, you know, what mean ensign and so forth, what mean saxophone? Yeah.
Starting point is 00:55:24 Is what Loganunist thinking? There was a really nice framing choice at the beginning of the scene. There's a circular wall sconce in Harry Kim's Ready Room. And when he walks in, it perfectly frames his head like a halo. Wow.
Starting point is 00:55:38 And I thought it did a really nice job of conveying the idea that Harry is like kind of an innocent here, but he is finding out in this scene that this was never a humanitarian objective. This is a military mission. Logan developed a cloaking technology and they are trying to get that technology back to their home world through a blockade that the Anari have erected around it. Kim is really upset in this scene because he hears the truth of what's going on here,
Starting point is 00:56:11 what this ship does, who these people are, how instrumental they are in this tech. And the scene finally ends in the Screscendo where Harry Kim is like, and you didn't call it a cloaking device? Pfft. Pfft. It's such a missed opportunity. What are you doing? Pfft.
Starting point is 00:56:37 They'll remember you forever for this. Yeah. You always name it after you. Yeah. Your name would be right in there in one of the key technologies that your people have. Yeah. Ah, you blew it.
Starting point is 00:56:50 You blew it. And he's so disappointed in Logan for this specifically. He's like, all right, we're turning around. We're going back to my ship. We're going to talk this out with my captain. He's a little bit above my pay grade. And so he goes out and he goes to Tarrick. He's like, all right, man, turn around.
Starting point is 00:57:05 Head right back to where you pick this up and Tarrick doesn't do it. And Harry's like, okay, you're relieved like this other guy will do it. And no, come on, like none of these guys have any incentive to follow your orders if it doesn't suit their needs. All of the energy of the mutiny scene in Crimson Tide,
Starting point is 00:57:27 like you know what that energy feels like. Yeah. This scene is exactly the opposite. Hahaha. Cobb does not side with Harry Kim. No, not at all. Poor Harry Kim. Yeah. Harry at all. Poor Harry Kim. Harry Kim should have been made to take a saxophone
Starting point is 00:57:48 out of the ready room after this. Yeah. It sucks. Logan just like breaks the saxophone over his knee. Yeah. Tonal shifts don't get any more abrupt than cutting back over to Voyager, where Paris runs into each of in a corridor.
Starting point is 00:58:06 I love how not at all stressed about each of Paris'es. Like, each of's energy is really, like each of has been putting horny on main this whole episode and we haven't seen Paris directly observe that, but it's just impossible for me to imagine that Paris hasn't seen what's going on, just given Paris. Even seeing a lot of my wife lately, should I be worried? I love the energy that goes like, I'm so confident in my own relationship that the idea of there being any threat to it is insulting.
Starting point is 00:58:42 Yeah. And I wish to insult you with the idea of that. Had you go and rock climbing with Wifey? Enjoy. Yeah. You should ask her to go first. Yeah. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:58:57 And Paris challenges him to a car race on the holiday. Like Paris's energy here is like, yeah, whatever. I mean, that's like being invited to the batting cages by Mark McWire, right? Like, he's gonna fucking kick your ass. Yeah, each of just doesn't have the experience to recognize what this is. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:59:20 I know you don't wanna do it. Coffee, black, make it yourself. I'm trying to help you see this as an opportunity to grow. Make it yourself. Do you think that there's some text in this scene that Paris did this intentionally? Like Paris, like new that each head was up to something and is like, I'm gonna go just like,
Starting point is 00:59:37 I'm just gonna cowhuts in the hell out of him. He's gonna realize that this is not something that he should pursue and in fact, something that he should run as fast as away from as he possibly can. Or do you think Paris is just unthreatened and doesn't even think about it at all? Well, I'm gonna answer your question with a question.
Starting point is 00:59:57 Like, can't you tell, like my friends who have teenage kids, like, can't you tell How fucking dumb teenagers are when you spend any time with them like How bad they are at covering up their Intentions I feel like this is just an adult and a teenager having that kind of relationship like it's obvious to Paris What's going on here? And I think that makes your of relationship. It's obvious to Paris what's going on here. And I think that makes your insinuation correct. Like he is fucking with him. So on that theory, this fucking works great because each of goes into engineering and it's like, Hey, listen, BLT, I got bad news for you. This is like the student telling the teacher that they can't be together and the
Starting point is 01:00:45 teachers like what? Okay, sure. Go out to recess. And then she laughs and laughs about it in the lounge. As much as it hurts, I'll just have to face the truth. It's for the best. God is an idiot. Like she has to yes hand her way out of this, basically. Like, she's like, okay, yeah, well, I'm really disappointed each year, but I guess that's just gonna have to be how it is. Well, she has to yes hand it after no budding it a bunch of times, and then realizing that's not gonna work. Right. He's too dumb.
Starting point is 01:01:22 Yeah. I gotta see that, Calvin Calvin from a mile away and I kind of did because I'm nearly that far to the other side of this bay You know what else should have been a mile away the drain pipe on our home world Spelling into the center of our city It was pointed in the wrong ass direction. That's just my helpful opinion on the matter. Poor e-chip. Does the thing, like, look, we dunk on e-chip a lot,
Starting point is 01:01:58 but I don't know anyone who hasn't made this mistake. You confuse someone's niceness for them being interested and all hell breaks loose in your mind. Yeah. And for someone without a lot of reps in the real world, you understand how this could be confusing. That's one of the main reasons being a teenager sucks so much. I think the world would be a better place if we could all just be nicer to each other without that niceness being interpreted as wanting to fuck each other. You know? That would be good. That would be pretty good. People can make conversations without it being a hit. The whole world is not a hit.
Starting point is 01:02:38 Okay. Harry goes to check on seven as she recovers from her injuries. He's pretty bummed because he's basically been relieved of command and he tells her a little bit about the situation with no vaccine. And he's like, yeah, I mean, these guys are shady as fuck. I'm not surprised that you got kicked out of being captain of this ship. And Harry's like, well, we can get an escape pod and head back to Voyager that way. And Harry's like, well, we can get in an escape pod and head back to Voyager that way. And there's like hopes that the Anari don't shoot the escape pod just cause it's there.
Starting point is 01:03:12 Seven's like, I know why you wanna get into an escape pod. You wanna eat your own ropes again. Hahaha. Just stop. Here he came. Yeah. This is a great moment for seven. A great like, this is why the camp in San Hersh. Nobody can give a pep talk like this. It's true. I love the reversal that Seven does to Harry Kim here. She turns retreat into encouragement. Like these crew people feel
Starting point is 01:03:43 very capable without him. But somehow, if Seven makes the case that they're going to die without him, without his great leadership and knowledge, as bad as Kim feels about having that one body on his conscience, he better figure out a way to get this crew on a side so that he doesn't get any more bodies. This is a video game that you cannot rage quit.
Starting point is 01:04:08 Up in the bridge, I find that there is some kind of scanning system that's been put around the Kraylor home world. Are they Kraylor? Sure. It's just like a made up alien. Yeah. Don't you agree with me that like season seven Voyager Alien are like all one-offs and they all feel like one-offs? Like they don't put as much work into like what these people are about because it's like we'll never see them again so who gives a shit?
Starting point is 01:04:38 Did you know with the time that season seven would be the last season to Star Trek Voyager when it was coming out? Oh, I don't know. Like, I wonder to what extent that changes how you watch the show. Like, this is it for them. Yeah. I'm not that interested to begin with, but I wonder if in the late 90s when you're watching
Starting point is 01:04:56 this, if you're disappointed at the lack of story here. Right. You're like, man, like, I hope we get a few more episodes that we've learned, like, what this war is about and whether we sympathize with the Kraylor or the NRE more, you know. Yeah. None of that. We never get any clarification on that. So, yeah, Kim and Seven come back to the bridge and Kim kind of takes back over command. This is the most unbelievable part of the episode to me. Like he walks on the bridge and loakens like,
Starting point is 01:05:31 here, wings him the keys. He does nothing to earn this. Yeah, other than just like knowing what he's doing way more than anyone else. He's got that confidence when he chooses to demonstrate it. Yeah. So meanwhile, on Voyager, which is still grounded, they get a call from the Anari guy that they were talking to before.
Starting point is 01:05:53 And he's like, Hey, so deal off all of the dilithium and shit we were going to trade with you is now off the table. Because what the fuck you're helping our enemies? Yeah. And Jan was like, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait. Jane was like, don't destroy us. Escort us. We definitely don't shoot escorts. Yeah.
Starting point is 01:06:15 Grand Rapers visiting with you. They know all about what happened with the Delta fire and the the Kraylor and everything. And Gerald is like, you know, you better get the fuck out of here. Like, I don't want to have to shoot you off the surface of this planet. Yeah, it would be easy for him. Chainways like, all right, well, we'll take this escort. We'll have to get rid of them at some point.
Starting point is 01:06:39 And a way they had, and we cut back to the plant where Harry Kim is trying to get through this like cloak chip detector field that the Anari have erected around the Kraylor home world. And it's not going well. Like every time they get hit by one of these waves, it reveals their ship a little bit. And Anari ships are shooting at them. And the bangers are coming fast and intense. And the ship is about to come apart. This is when Harry does a very Kirk-like maneuver. He surrenders.
Starting point is 01:07:12 Really does feel that way. Pretty fun. Yeah, I liked it. There are conditions to this surrender though. Gotta give us some time to stuff people in escape pods so that they can eat their ropes on the way to the planet surface. And the lead, the lead trailer guys, like what? You don't have to be that graphic with what's going to happen on the escape pods, okay? And he's like, no, no, seriously, try it. And he's like, no, I don't think you
Starting point is 01:07:43 understand. We've been in space for years, researching this cloaking technology. We haven't had access to pineapple in a long time. My semen just tastes like semen. Everyone on the night in jail is pissed. You surrendered? This feels like Kim's gonna lose the crew a second time. Yeah.
Starting point is 01:08:08 But this is a trick. Because Kim's idea is to do the thing that he did at the very beginning of the episode using the shield polarity in order to slingshot the Nightingale toward the planetary defenses, past them, and into safety. And they they do that in a very exciting scene. This works great. Yeah. They're just barely faster than the ships chasing them. Mission accomplished.
Starting point is 01:08:37 Yeah. With like a minute and 30 seconds left in the episode, the Voyager shows up at the Kraylor Homeworld and a ship comes out of cloak behind them. And yeah, it's ultimately things went well for him. It sort of seems like they get some of their trading done with the Kraylor. Seems like it. Like it was a little unclear to me, but yeah, the, you know, it, not a total victory, but, you know, I think it was a great learning opportunity for Harry Kim. Hey, you know what would be fucking great to trade for?
Starting point is 01:09:14 Cloaking technology? Mm-hmm. That would be good. Guess they don't need that. Well, you know, the Romulans would be pissed if they found out about it. Yeah. So Kim's back in the mess hall, and it's decision time.
Starting point is 01:09:28 Suflet or Lasagna. I'm not eating either of those for lunch. No? Oh, I love a lasagna. Give me the lasagna for lunch. That's half the fun of making a lasagna as you get a lasagna for lunch the next day. Lasagna, sa!
Starting point is 01:09:43 Lasagna pizza lunch the next day. Lasagna sa! Lasagna pizza sa! Next day, Lasagna is superior to Night of Lasagna, every time, right? Yeah, it really rolls. Really tightens up, doesn't it? It does. All those flavors meld into each other. Yeah.
Starting point is 01:10:00 I made my famous Lasagna for my in-laws when we did our little Thanksgiving trip. Big hit. Famous lasagna. You should have seen the fistful of lactade pills. My mother-in-law had to consume in order to get this lasagna down. Good for her. Yeah, but I pulled no punches.
Starting point is 01:10:20 I hit that thing with cream. I hit that thing with all the cheeses. Wow. Did you serve it with cream. I hit that thing with all the cheeses. Wow. Did you serve it with Adam's Fave Miss Garlic Bread? I should have. I fucked up. I didn't serve it with Adam's Fave Miss Garlic Bread. That's fine.
Starting point is 01:10:36 I would have given you the recipe. So, yeah, Harry Kim talking in Nielix about, you know, being a captain was an interesting experience, but I guess you could say, yo soy marinara. Yo soy marinara. No soy capitan. No soy capitan.
Starting point is 01:10:57 No soy capitan. That's the end of the episode. Did you like it, Ben? You know, I'm maybe even to get along with most of the time, but I don't like bollies, I don't like friends, and I don't like you. I love this too. I thought it was a pretty fun episode.
Starting point is 01:11:15 It's that really like feeling to me like the like half-assetness of the alien design is starting to kind of great on me in season seven. You know, I think like the most interesting alien we maybe have had all season was that one guy who was like a medical administration alien, like his people were the great bureaucrats of the Delta Quadrant. And that's like a pretty funny idea for a Star Trek alien. But I think, yeah, like I liked all the themes of like, you know, heavy lies the head that wears the crown for Harry. I think it's pretty late in the game for him to be getting his own missions on this show. And I'm glad that they're doing a little bit of that.
Starting point is 01:12:06 And I thought the struggles that he went through were interesting. But yeah, the half-assetness of the aliens and also the just like, oh yeah, right, this is like a deadly, this is a mission with deadly stakes. And like, nobody really talked about that before it happened. Right. Felt a little bit like they didn't think this one all the way through. I mean, in space, there's really no such thing as a safe mission. This is like surgery, right? There's risks for everyone.
Starting point is 01:12:40 Yeah. Yeah. So, mixed feelings about this one, I guess, I will say. I loved the restraints of centering Harry Kim in an episode and making it not a romantic situation whatsoever. What's it expecting that? I mean, he probably nailed Dela, right? Before she went and... Sure. ...spock boxed herself. Got to do that, right? Before she went and... Sure. Spock boxed herself.
Starting point is 01:13:06 Gotta do that, yeah. He was stating the obvious again. She's dead. He's dead. He's dead. I also like the restraint of not like, you gotta make Harry Kim look like a dope this episode, but they didn't make him look like he made his own extra pips
Starting point is 01:13:26 and like put on a red uniform or whatever. Yeah. To be captain of that ship. Like he didn't go all the way in a way that I enjoyed. Yeah. I like the episode. I thought it was fun. It was fun.
Starting point is 01:13:41 You're not wrong. And plus, Voyager on the ground. Give me all that. Give me all that voyage on the ground Well, Adam, do you want to see if anything? Puts it on the ground in the priority one inbox. Oh, yeah, and they head there straight away Priority one message from star fleet coming in on secured channel Need a supplement coming in on Secured Channel. I need a supplement on that. supplement on that?
Starting point is 01:14:05 supplement. supplement. Yes, extra. How do you interest alone? Could be enough to buy this ship. All right, Adam. Our first priority one message is of a promotional nature. Goes like this.
Starting point is 01:14:18 You may know that Captain James D. Kirk is canonically from Riverside, Iowa. But what Mike Hollum presupposes is, what if Big Rod only acknowledged that status after 38-ish years of trying to fight a city of like a thousand people? I'm an award-winning local journalist and columnist, and you can read my 1800-word article on the matter at southeastioaunion.com or probably by googling it. Look for the headline, Riverside Rejoice, Trek Relevance is canon at last.
Starting point is 01:14:51 This is sent in by Kaelin McCain, and the call to action is go confuse my editor by giving my column more views than we have readers. This has got real Biff Yeager vibes, doesn't it? I really like this. Let's brigade the Southeast Iowa Union and and read this article. Get in the comment section of this article. Oh man, is there a comment section? Maybe write a letter to the editor. Tell him how great it is. Then our second priority when message is of a personal nature, it's from Richard P and D.C.
Starting point is 01:15:28 and it is to Ben Adam Windian Bill. That message goes like this, I found greatest gen in the fall of 2017, where it became a salve, for me on my commute, to an unpaid internship in Congress. Dang! Seven years later, I've been thrown out of Congress for my many lives. One more. No, that's not it.
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Starting point is 01:16:13 Yeah, I'm with Richard P on the train rant. Our final P1 today is from Chuck the Duck and it's to Josh Cooley, comma, not the director of Toy Story 4. And it goes like this. and it's to Josh Cooley, comma, not the director of Toy Story 4. And it goes like this. To Joshua, a high cue. 35 not prime, Thursdays. Because it's tradition, insert Tim Robinson give here.
Starting point is 01:16:37 Oh, to be too fixed. Josh, thanks for introducing me to Star Trek and especially so, sharing your Huma on lives with one another. And I reckon also for periodically sharing your parasocial pod friends. They're a hoot! Happy 35th year on this strange world partner. Happy birthday! Yeah. Happy birthday, Joshua. I hope I'm pronouncing Joshua correctly.
Starting point is 01:17:04 Oh, probably. There's a pronunciation guide, but it references adventure time, which I have not seen, unfortunately. Check the deck understands that jumbo-tron messages run on a first-come, first-served basis, and airing dates can't be guaranteed, and maximum fun is unable to refund a jumbo-tron message if it runs outside of the preferred time frame. But if you'd like to get one, it's maximumfund.org slash Jembo Tron. Hey, Ben.
Starting point is 01:17:29 What's that, Adam? Did you find yourself a drunk Shimoda? Incredible. Drunk Shimoda! I think I'm gonna give it to Terrick, because Terrick is very taken with Harry Kim at the beginning of this episode. And I feel like the way the actor portrayed this was really sweet
Starting point is 01:17:47 and really endearing. And I thought that he did a lot of great subtle stuff with suppressing how annoyed he was for the rest of the episode. Every time Harry gave him something to do and then was like, no, I'll just do it. I just thought he did a really funny job of conveying that. So he's my drunk shimo to this episode. How about you?
Starting point is 01:18:10 Yeah, that's a good one. I'm shocked you didn't choose Harry Kim. Kim's all over the place this episode. This may be an instance where the obvious choice is my choice for myrium reasons, really. I don't think I need to restate them all right now. I'm gesturing behind me to the episode. Saxophone in the ready room.
Starting point is 01:18:32 How about that? There's one, one reason. There you go. All right. Well, I'm gesturing to goch.biz-game, where our runner-about is currently on the 97th square. Adam our next episode is season seven, episode nine, flesh and blood.
Starting point is 01:18:51 The doctor is torn between his duty to voyage and his conscience when warrior holograms rebel against their heroogen creators. There's another photonic uprising. Bring back the hero gen. Yeah, wow. I love those guys. The bains are back, baby. Yeah. Big fun.
Starting point is 01:19:11 So, uh, yeah, let me go ahead and roll this bone. Could hit a space butthole, which would take us down to an nth degree square. Mm-hmm. Could hit that worn hammered. Mm. You're required to learn as you play. Roll.
Starting point is 01:19:26 I have to roll to find out. I rolled a natural three at him. Oh, Leveray! Three! The Sancti Dog! Our next episode we will be getting terribly terribly drunk. I'm sorry to say. Oh, that's fitting.
Starting point is 01:19:46 Wow. Wow. Power Hour again? Again. What the fuck? Jesus Christ. Good thing we got that meat. Yeah.
Starting point is 01:19:56 Yeah. Would meat kill us in a power hour context? Mmm. It's 6% 6.5% alcohol. So it's not way more alcoholic than your average light beer. Alright, sounds like a deal. Alright, well, we got a lot of thanks to give. Thanks to the folks that support at MaximumFund.org slash join. Thanks to Wendy Pretty, our producer.
Starting point is 01:20:20 Thanks to Bill Tilly, our card daddy who runs the act greatest track social media accounts. Big, big thanks to Adam Ragusia, who has hard at work on music for the next iteration of the greatest generation. Yeah. Check out his YouTube channel. It's so great. I think that's just about it, right? Yeah, that's it. That's all it needs to be this morning.
Starting point is 01:20:41 With that, we will be back at you next week with another great episode of Star Trek Voyager and an episode episode of Star Trek Voyager and an episode of the greatest generation Voyager where Adam and I will probably be so drunk that we think that our own holograms are rising up against us. Hey, Ben, have a good rest of the day. Hey, you two, buddy. You'll be caught on the U.S. It's a good thing to have you. You'll be caught on the U.S. It's a good thing to have you. Make it show.
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