The Greatest Generation - Taking It Out on the Wall (S7E18)

Episode Date: September 6, 2017

When a nacelle engineer totally puts himself into his work, Worf and Troi are tasked with investigating the circumstances of his death. But when Troi starts displaying some similarly troubling feelings, it's up to Worf to keep her from going over the edge. Is LiveJournal a compulsory part of a Starfleet career? Where's the boldest place to kiss someone for the first time? Are there special phasers for the elderly? It's the episode that's only slightly better than Ben Affleck's first film!

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something that they're struggling with, that's going to be part of this episode. And if you are struggling with it imminently, we would highly recommend you reach out to the folks at the National Suicide Prevention Hotline, which is 800-273-8255. The hotline is available 24 hours a day and it's totally confidential and if you're feeling some feelings in that area, both Ben and I would definitely recommend you give them a call. You know, you're really valuable and the thing that tells people that suicide is an idea is part of a disease and you should not listen to that disease. And as somebody who's had those feelings in the past, don't feel ashamed to reach out for help because that's what these people are there for. It's 800-273-8255. Now let's get on with the show.

Here's to the finest crew in Starfleet. Engage! Don't move the car to the UK, don't let the car drive. Welcome to the greatest generation. It's a Star Trek podcast by a couple of guys who are a little bit embarrassed to have a Star Trek podcast. I'm Ben Harrison. I'm Adam Pryantica. Hey Adam, guess what?

I got a package here from, uh, I'm going to guess Germany. Uh, boy, this is a setup for a really awful joke, Ben, but how can you tell the packages from Germany? Shies and packaging. It's been pounded very thin, breaded and fried. Perfect. That was just a whiffle ball of a setup. I don't know for sure if it's from Germany or not, it's from Angela. And I'm just

saying the like the stuff on here that says where it's what country it's from is in a, you know, tongue I don't understand, but I'm gonna cut it open and see what it is. This this actually came in like, I think like a day or two before we left for our tour. So I hope it's not perishable. Okay Adam, I've opened the box, got a letter here, it says, I've been an Adam, I've been a faithful viewer of your pod pretty much since it started. It's brought me lots of laughter and on one occasion, it causes me to think that my car was breaking down due to Adam recording using a bed mic or something. Oh.

Oh. Your pod came into my life at a rough time right after my wife passed away, and finding reasons to smile and laugh helped me get through that. You're jokes, but also hearing how much fun you guys must have when recording this has been a part of that. As a thank you, I'm sending some stuff.

Being that you recently ran out of cards, maybe you might enjoy this. There are no packstope, and I already did that several years ago, but there are lots of cards. Also, I'm including some Swedish candy. Oh, it's not Germany after all. Some Swedish candy, that is not's not Germany after all. Some Swedish candy. That is not relevant to the show in any way,

but having listened to you reviewing six plus seasons of TNG, I know you're not above getting off topic from time to time. Keep the fun coming. Oh man, I may have been mispronouncing this. Angel, Angelin. Make ways? It's eight, eight, E, and g-e-l-n.

How would you pronounce that? Anglin? Angelin? Megwis? I don't know. God, I feel like a really idiot now. This is gonna be one of those episodes where it's really tempting to edit out

what a big, fat idiot I am, but I think I can't do it. I think the people need to know. Well Adam, we've got a lot of stuff in here. There's something called not-crem-original, and they're kind of like ketchup-packet-type things with some sort of goopy stuff in them. I hate it when I go through the effort and get not crammed. We've got something called original sulta patroner,

but yeah, I'm going to guess is a liquorish. Yeah? It's got kind of a warning label art direction to it, like a, like a police line do not cross type art direction. So I have a, I have a request. Would you mind doing a, uh, doing an impromptu taste test of these things on bike? I will do an impromptu taste test of one of these things.

I'm going to tell you two more of them. And you can, and you can pick which one you want me to taste the most If I've of course got some Balar some all grins Balar's Verge's mess cop the bill original Which I'm glad you got the original because the the diet is terrible It's got like pink white and greenish Like car shaped marshmallows or something. And then of course, we've got Kloeta Keck's Choklad. And what does that look like?

It's more of a chocolate bar looking format, kind of like a Hershey bar type shape, like a broad and thin bar. And it's got either a wafer or honeycomb implication in the font. Honeycomb implication, sounds so serious. Then my votes to Balar for marshmallow reasons. Okay, that's the one I'm least terrified to taste.

Oh, okay. Maybe just for stunts, I'll try the nut cram also. Yeah. Alright. Oh, these are not... Balar, not... They're not marshmallows, they're like... They're like gummy candies that are surrounded with some sort of candy coating.

That's pretty good. A thin candy shell, if you will. It's not a shell as such, it's like a softer coating than that. But it tastes real nice. Oh man. Oh my god, Adam. Hmm, but they taste real nice. Hmm. Oh man. Oh my god, Adam. I just got to the bottom of this box and there's a tin, a tin at the bottom of this box that looks to be the mother load of Star Trek CCG collectible card game.

Oh man. Oh man. Oh man. It man. This bonkers. Oh there's so many of them. We met a really cool dude at one of our shows that handed us a couple of custom Jim Shimoda cards for this game. There is a group called the Continuing Committee at Star Trek CC.org that continues to make cards for that game. And this person mentioned that they make cards, they have started making cards based on our show, like things that our show is called Attention To and one of them was Jim Shimoda. Where to be faithful to you, Captain? That's so great.

Yeah, man, Adam, I am in a guest that there are like several hundred new additions to our collection of cards here. These look to be silver border, which somebody told us that's a significant thing. Like there's different editions of the game and you can tell by the border on the cards. But man, if there wasn't so much randomness involved, I'd really be threatening you big time about the next Star Trek card game war we have. Love that game. It's a big hit, Ben. All right. Should I try some not-crem? Yeah. Try that not-crem. I've been trying it for years.

Do you think that you're supposed to like spread this on something? Well, what do you have to spread it on, Ben? I'll have here some more John beer. Stick it in a con. Give it to Darwin. Not crème reminds me a lot of Nutella. Oh, okay. It's got a little bit more of a, more of a mouth feel than Nutella. It's like, it's a little gritty. Like the nuts haven't been entirely pulverized. Oh, it's for Nutella people who like chunky peanut butter.

Yeah. I kind of like nut creme. Okay. Hence, nut creme. Okay. Okay. Wow. Thanks so much for those gifts. The gifts of food. The gifts of non-spoilable food, specifically. Yeah, thank you for not sending something that was gonna rot in the box in my apartment.

Well, one thing that may have spoiled before we got to it, Ben, is the episode we're going to review today. It's really one of those season 7 episodes, I think. It's season 7 episode 18, I of the beholder. This is becoming a speech. The captain's very entitled. I'm entitled to ramble on about something everyone knows. Now Adam, this episode is one of those exciting cold opens

that we really love. Like the camera fades up on like one of the panels that goes red when there's a red alert and we pull out to the bridge and... We're losing containment in the starboard and they sell too. There is a major warp emergency and they are preparing to eject the core. That's how ill it has gotten.

Yeah, things seem super fraught. We get our first look at a brand new place that been the interior of the warp Nacell place at. Yeah, you get to see Riker and Wurf like climbing up up a ladder in the Jeffries tubes and they go into the room from which the the Nacell is administered, I guess. This workplace is not ADA compliant because every time anyone enters this scene, they have to do it through the tube and up the ladder, right?

Yeah, it must have been grandfathered in, it was built before the code was passed. Right, it's a neat scene that doesn't quite show the depth of the Nasell, right? The idea of seeing inside of it is amazing, but Ben, I wish it looked longer. If Fredrick had directed this episode, he would have managed to make it look very long. Very long indeed, Adam. Yeah, there's like a door, up a ladder, and when they come in, there's a woman with some low-forking down on the ground floor, and then up on a catwalk, looking out of a garage door that looks into a deeper space.

The inner Nacell is an engine, and he's like in a state, you know, Riker gets up on there and he's like, hey man, like, whatever happened, we can talk about it. I want to help. And he is like, he is totally in a fugue. Like, he doesn't know where he is or what's going on. I know what I have to do.

And Riker is doing his best to talk him out of it. Riker's like, I don't have the words, but I think this CD does, and he puts in third-i-blind jumper. And then just sort of lays back in the cut, like letting the song play for the whole scene. He does the, like, I'm looking at you, looking at me, looking at you with his fingers. He's like, huh?

Huh? Yeah. This is great songwriting. You should stop doing crystal meth, dude. This is as good as Third Eye Blind God. I mean, a lot of people prefer the subsequent album, but for me, it will always be this release. This episode probably came out fairly concurrent

with that song being a big hit. Yeah, probably on the minds of the writers. Yeah. But he jumps, and he jumps into like the nexus of plasma that is being injected into the Nacel, and it like vaporizes him instantly. And it really puts Riker on his ass, like to have been witness to it.

He is devastated. And it made me wonder how many, how many suicides on screen we've gotten in this show. I feel like someone has turned a phaser on themselves before, but not in a starfleet uniform. That's what I'm saying. And so to see a member of the crew do this was Horrifying. Yeah, he like slams his hand against the wall and so often the wall is what Riker needs to get through an emotional time And here he is lashing out at said wall

How many times has that wall been there for you Riker? You can tell he's upset because he's taking it out on the wall. What's up with all these like junior level loaf officers getting stuck up in the cell? Like, oh, you've got a one-off loaf. We're going to need you in the most remote part of the ship. Daniel Kwan has basically a serving platter of loaf. Like it's very simple, it's just the curvature of a platter on his forehead. Yeah, but his boss has like, I don't know, like a heat sink from a microprocessor on her face. I thought his boss looked like she had cow nose loaf Cow nose loaf away. Yeah, she has sort of a cow nose like it all gathers in the nose

It made me wonder if her tongue felt very sandpapery when she licks you As bosses go They don't come any more docile Then As bosses go, they don't come any more docile than Lieutenant Nara. Yeah. You just lead her to her station and then lead your back home. You can get out of any shift if you bring your collie with you. So dumb.

So dumb. So we come back from the opening title sequence and Picard has gathered like Worf and Troy and Riker in his office to talk about what just went down and And he kind of puts them onto an investigation. He says like, I would like to be able to offer Lieutenant Kwan's parents some explanation of what happened. There's only so many satisfying things you can tell somebody about somebody taking their own life. Like it is ultimately like a really like,

it's an act that defies explanation, but I want to be able to like give them a picture of what he was going through. like a really, like, it's an act that defies explanation, but I wanna be able to like give them a picture of what he was going through. Like, obviously this dude was in a bad way and we as a crew kind of neglected that, you know, nobody was picking up on the sign. So like, let's look into it, let's see what we miss.

The car's been talking to a lot of parents lately about the deaths of his crew people. Maybe wonder, like, has he worked his way through the entire Borg's list? Ha ha ha ha ha. Everybody from Wolf 359. Does he listen? He gives himself 20 a day.

That's really emotionally all you can handle. It's like a representative at the house calling for donations all day every day. Computer, how many more on the list? 37 million. You will complete your calls in 2000 years. Meanwhile, data and Jordi are like hanging out in engineering, talking about it. And like data confesses to Jordi that he once contemplated turning himself off. And it's like, yeah, data confesses to Jordy that he once contemplated turning himself off. And it's like, yeah, data, we know.

We've seen seven seasons of the show. Data's puberty story, which is what I thought this was, is Wesley asking why anyone would want to use drugs. Like this is that scene all over again. Data's like, during my awkward pre-ppube essence, my pubes weren't growing in properly and my voice was all cracky and like my my positronic net was forming in a weird way and I thought about just quitting altogether would have been easier. I'd seen my father's penis when his robe flopped open and my penis didn't look like that

so I was quite concerned that I would never be able to satisfy a woman. That open robe, Dr. Sung. Come on man, double knot that robe. I thought that this scene was maybe the most awful thing in the episode because they give, like you're right. It's that it's Wesley asking why would somebody do drugs, but it's also like data saying like I arrived at the conclusion that I should treat these things

as challenges to overcome rather than obstacles. And that's great for you data, but like you don't have emotional diseases in Android world. Depression is a real thing that really convinces people to come and see what's said. And it's not as easy as just talking your way out of it sometimes. Right, because without emotions,

all those are our challenges. They were never anything besides challenges to data. So there is no emotional gravity to that. And so, in terminating his life, that is the end of a life and that is bad, but it does not seem like it has the equivalence that he assumes that it does. Jordan's response really like reinforces this idea,

which he says that's a great way to look at it data. And it's like, no, it's not. Like sometimes you actually need medication to overcome those feelings. Like that's a real thing. As if Jordan is a person who hasn't suffered from some form of depression throughout the series. I'm no armchair psychoanalyst, but like,

Jordy's got some problems. Oh, word? Like, I don't think he knows what he's talking about. No, Adam, he doesn't. Neither of them do, which is why this scene in the episode rings as so transparently preachy. You know? Yeah.

Orphan Trigotu, Lieutenant Quann's apartment. And I thought this was a great bit of art direction because like his apartment really has an aesthetic. Like, he has, he totally has a style as a person. And you can see it in the things that are in there. And like they talk about how he's part, Nurean. He's like part some other kind of, you know.

I think Warf really respects his chair game because he isn't chair that looks profoundly hostile to sit in. I feel like Warf took a look at that thing and was like, yeah, I think I could I could have been budd with this guy. It's too bad. That thinks Spikey is hell. Chair game, recognized, chair game.

And there's talking like, you know, this dude did something pretty unthinkable. And so he must have been in an unimaginable amount of pain. Let's take a look around. They find a picture of his girlfriend, Ensign Callaway. That's her Callaway. That's okay. And she's a medical technician in Six Bay. And they're like, well, damn, like he had a girl, like he was, he was this young officer with all this, all this potential. Nobody saw this coming. Maybe we should look into his personal logs. And so they, they fired up. And his, his

last entry is like him, like grinning into the camera saying, like, after pulling two double shifts in a row, I'm really looking forward to spending some time with Matti. Can you imagine recording something like that? I guess this is kind of what people do with YouTube actually. He's like vlogging for himself. When you join the federation, I wonder, if there is an encouragement to document your life

because lives are worth documentation and you know, you are going to do important and amazing things throughout your career. Things that people are going to want to study and learn from. I wonder if there is any of that baked into a career or if this is a like, what Twitter is now where this is just really a thing that people do because it's zeitgeisty and people do a personal log and this is Twitter, you know? Yeah, it'd be funny if you could see the little fountain

of hearts popping up in the corner as people like it as it goes out live on Periscope. Yeah, I mean, you get the sense in this case, the personal log is protected and that you need special permission to access them the way that Troy and Wurf have. Well, maybe it's like what my wife does, which is she has an Instagram, but she, you know, you have to like request access to follow her. Well, I keep mind the same way. So I'm not gonna hate on that.

Well, there you go. There's a perfect example at them. They go down to a six bay and they talk to, and then Callaway, who's like, you know, just like, she's just as gobsmacked about this as anybody else. She's like, I can't even imagine having to go put in a shift at work after your boyfriend jumps into a plasma stream. And she's like, hey, can you take five from your job and talk to me about this?

That is a feeling that I have had. I worked in an office space where our boss died in the parking lot of a heart attack, like the morning of work one day. And it was awful. Awful in the ways that you would expect to be awful, but also like in the practical sense of like, our work doesn't mean shit. Like, what are we supposed to do actually, you know?

Yeah. Do you work? Do you specifically not work and just be with people? How long? How long do you not work and be with people? Is it okay if you just want to work instead and like deal with it later? Like it was such a mixture of reaction and intimacy with workplace people in a way that up until then was like, you know, workplace pals.

You have your workplace pals and you talk about the ball game and like there's like a limit to how exposed you are to people emotionally, but for that to happen. We all go out and get salads sometimes. Sure. Yeah, we're not like hanging out. But to do that at work and to be to suddenly turn into a real and complete emotional person at work together was a profoundly emotional thing. And to answer the point that you've made, I don't know how you go back to work after something like this. I, and especially after I did have to go back to work after something like this, I don't know how you do it.

I guess you just do. Adam, I clicked this actress' thing on the X-ray. Ensign Calo is played by Joanna Mcloi. There are four things that she is known for on this, is one of the craziest lists of things I've ever seen. She's known for Star Trek, the next generation, Mad TV in 1995. Apparently she was on Mad TV.

Whoa. A thing from 2017 called Generations. And something called, I killed my lesbian wife, hung her on a meat hook, and now I have a three-picture deal at Disney, 1993. Wow. What is that? So like around the same time as this What do you call that movie for short like like what's the industry name for that movie like the oh you watch curb? Yeah, exactly I I gotta go I gotta go back to meet hook. We're not through shooting Wow, what a broad career holy shit Adam

This is the title of a short film director Ben Affleck of the Affleck Affleck? Yeah, Ben Affleck Ben Affleck specifically whoa Holy shit. I've got to find this movie. All I'm thinking about now is that scene from the Duncan sketch where he throws his coffee at the wood shield in that car. That's part of my day is when I'm at Duncan.

I think that's sad. That is Bunker's Banana. I can't believe that that is a thing that exists in the world. Can you see the title of that film in the Boston accent? I killed my lesbian wife, Hangarana Mead Hook. Now I have a three-picked shit deal with Disney. Perfect. Perfect. Moving on. Adam, what were we here to do today? I feel like the

the fact that that exists, I just found that out has erased my brain. Well the scene, it's officer Troy and Sergeant Worf. Yeah, it's a real buddy cop drama. Troy goes down to the Nasell and she's like, hey, you're the, you're the lady with the rough tongue. Anyway, so I got this carrot. You want this carrot? Oh, you slivered all over my hand, isn't that just cute? Oh, but it feels so scratchy. She climbs up the ladder to the catwalk that Lieutenant Kwan jumped off of.

And she's up there and she gets a personal banger dropped on her and she's like totally overwhelmed and she like almost stumbles back over the guardrail. And like we smash cut to six bay and like warfen riker and Dr. Beverly are there and she's like, yeah, that shit was crazy. I like walked up to the door he jumped through and I was like feeling all of these terrifying

and negative feelings, but they weren't really coming for anybody in particular. They were just like there in the room. Everyone makes sure to tell her how her powers work. They're like, now Deanna, you aren't able to detect emotions from people unless they're there. So, I don't know what you think this is, but it appears that, like, whatever emotional serotonin levels are in you like like those are just off the charts. Yeah, they really have the need to empathsplain to her how how these things work. And so she's like advised by the doctor like your psilocyne levels are really high. So so like let's knock it off with going down to the Nacel for a little while.

And we'll sort it out. When you've gotten back to normal, maybe you and Wurf can go down there together and look into it. Yeah, they keep getting paired off. This Wharf and Troy thing. This is like the kind of, I'm gonna say like the 15-minute mark of the episode, and this is where Troy's upper lip starts looking real weird. Do you notice this Adam? I also noticed this. Remember when Brent Spiner fell and chopped up his chin

and they had to like make up him back together for that one-eth, like I want him to fell down or like otherwise hurt herself. Yeah, maybe Michael Dorn threw an elbow accidentally. You know how he does. Yeah, but to answer your question, I definitely noticed. The rest of this episode is largely just kind of like

investigation, investigation, investigation, somebody saying you need to wait 16 to 24 hours before doing something, like there's all these little excuses of time introduced, like oh, it's gonna take me 16 hours to synthesize a thing that suppresses your empathic abilities, or you need to wait four to five hours

to let the levels of your neurotransmitters go back to normal. And so in those downtime, Troy and Worf wind up spending a lot of time together and they're getting closer and closer, and they're hanging out in our quarters at one point, and Worf takes her by the hand, closer and closer and they're hanging out in our quarters at one point and worth like takes her by the hand and kind of brings her in close and he goes

for the neck kiss as the first kiss. What a weird choice. That is so aggro man. When he takes her hand I expected her to squeeze it until blood came out. Because you know that's his way too, right? That is kind of his thing. I just tried to do like the thought experiment of like thinking about the first time I kissed my wife. What might she have thought of me if I had gone for neck as the opening, as the opening kiss before going for mouth. Like, I think she would have probably like, need me and the balls and never talked to me. I don't see how the reflex response isn't like, raise the shoulders.

Like, what are you doing? What the hell? Get away from me. There's a tension up until this moment in the episode that is real and interesting to me. The idea of like having a work wife or a work husband. Like, this is a thing. This is a thing that I've felt before, like that good platonic

friendship that you get from just like being in the shit with someone, like day in and day out. But there is something a little bit more here and that wharf decides to explore that feeling through the neck. He's so bold. And not only that, like, they fucking do it. Yeah.

Like he sticks around, he does not leave the condo. No, he stays for breakfast. The next one. The next one. They totally bang. I wonder what Klingon breakfast is. Delicious. And how disgusting Deanna Troy noted sweet tooth

finds Klingon breakfast. Given what eggs we know warflex. Yeah, there's a pretty fun scene in 10 forward, Given what what eggs we know warflex Yeah, there's a pretty a pretty fun scene in ten forward like a little bit before this where Rakers like clearly on a date with somebody and warf is just drinking alone and raker comes back to the bar to get like a Another round and warf is like hey listen like just theoretically Is there anybody on the shift that ship that you definitely don't want me to fuck? The drinker's like, what are you talking about, man? And he's like, no, I'm just saying, I would never fuck somebody that you're trying to fuck.

But also, if you had fucked them previously, I would also have weird feelings about going in after you. I don't want us to have that kind of relationship. Anyways, all this human emotion management shit really doesn't work for me. So I'm going to get out of here. But sorry, I even brought it up. Sorry, sorry. This scene is so much fun.

Both because Riker is rocking like the lime green open V, like Flamenco guitar shirt. Yeah, like Riker is rocking like the lime green open V like flamenco guitar shirt. Yeah like Riger is rocking a shirt that if he leans over at all you can catch some titty. Yeah. And also his posture during this entire scene he's doing some great physical acting here. Yeah. It's like the way that Fritz can do. Get a load of some titty, worth. He's a little bit act buzz here too. Like, his eyes are sort of floaty, and he himself is kind of floaty. Yeah, he's very much off duty.

Yeah. Like, worth is in uniform, and Reikers is not, and Reikers is leaning him to how, how not in uniform he is. Why are there not 40 different versions of the off-duty Will Riker action figure? Because I would collect all of those. Ha ha ha ha. Just deeper and deeper V's.

I feel like bumping into somebody on a date at a place. Like you don't lay an emotional conversation on them like this when you catch them by themselves, you know. Like, oh, I was down at the bar and my buddy was there on a date. Anyways, I asked him like a really heavy question. It's not a good look, Worf. No, not really, but but Riker doesn't mind. he's totally amused by this. My love is a piece of longing, filled with back, which long enough has the busy. Tell me more, you're not the boy yet. Back in investigation, Storyline,

Wurf and Troy go back to the Nassau, and she goes back up to the place where it feels the baddest. And she gets a vision. She's like seeing like a woman in an engineering work suit being terrified. She sees the rubber sole vision of a Drake from aliens. She sees like the woman and another dude making out and then like turning and seeing that she's watching them and laughing at them. It's weird that like all of these scenes that she sees are not of something terrifying, but they are terrifying in terms of music and composition.

Taken separately, there's not a lot there. But taken all together, there's a heavy emotional banger. And she turns around, and suddenly the Nissel is not the Nissel, the functional Nissel anymore. It's like mid- know, bales of wire and like tubing and like construction debris and she sees a lunchpale with utopia planisha written on it. Nice to see that the Stanley company still exists, making those great coffee things with the little cup on top. Well, thermos, yeah, a little worth thermos. They're the only capitalist enterprise still operating in the 24th century. But yeah, she's like stumbling around this work site and she like bumps into wharf and

and he's like, what the hell was happening? And she's like, oh, like I just had like a vision of people laughing at me because I wasn't making out with them. They're doing that form of laughter that is the cruel kind. Yeah. And you can tell. You can tell when you see someone who is laughing when they are laughing at you versus laughing at a thing. It's that feeling I had when I pointed out there was a fire on that hillside and that maybe we should call the fire department.

Not a good feeling. There's nothing funny about fires on the plane, Ben. Oh, man, that may never be funny to anybody but me, Adam. But she's got some faces to look into. So she does this computer search where she's got like the people that works on building the entrepreneur at Utopia Planesia and the people that have served on the entrepreneur and so she's like looking at Bios and she finds private Drake among them. This search is insane to me, Ben. We know from experience that DNA Troy is like an expert in terms of of like the sort of research into into lineage into family records. She's great at

she's great at ancestry.com. And she mentions to Wurf like God there's just so many people who work at Utopia Planesha, and I'm looking for this guy, and I can't seem to find him. And she's clearly like, she's narrowed the search down to Utopia Planesha, but she didn't limit it to gender. So she's like cruising through male and female returns on her search. Like she doesn't think to reduce it to the one search parameter that could cut out half of Over the results. Come on Troy. Also get with it. This is a small town, you know There's a thousand people on this. Yeah, what are the chances? She doesn't know exactly this dude

She's seen him before She's seen him leering at her from across ten forward while she plows through a Chocolate moose or something. She's seen him lurking in the ship's laundromat. Oh, shhh. Cruising. She's seen amusing that steady cam rig to hold his heavy machine gun as he goes through the terraforming installation on LV426.

Ben, when you're bogs from Shashank Redemption, is all of your laundry just different colored handkerchiefs? Like, do you have to wash them all separately? I don't know. I don't know how it works when you're bogs from Shashank Redemption Adam. I'll tell you what it's like when you're bogs from Shashank Redemption Adam. I'll tell you what it's like when your box from Shashank Redemption, you get typecast as creepy face guy. Yeah. He has resting creepy face. Mark Ralston doing the heavy lifting with his face.

Yeah, but he hangs out with that Latina marine who's like, who's like, you know, fast guess. Fast guess. She's, she's, she's, she's kissed, you know, Vazquez. She's kissed him into the group. Otherwise, people wouldn't like private Drake, but Vazquez sticks up for him. Drake dies great, so does Vazquez. Like, they all die great. They die heroes.

Except for Burke, fuck you Burke. Yeah. The evil space Jew. This installation has a substantial dollar value attached to it. So most fucking anti-Semitic movie in the world. Everybody knows that the future is a grim and capitalist place, but what my movie presupposes is, maybe Jews run everything?

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Borf and Troy have their little fuck fest, and the doctor brings Troy down to six bay for some new inhibitors that are going to turn off her emotional abilities, so that she can go into the NISL without concerns of being swept away into this alternate reality. She keeps disappearing into. And she goes down there and she's trying to A, B, what she sees. What does this look like in comparison to what I saw in my vision? And notably, Wurf has not been able to accompany her because there's some, there's like transporting some medical shit and security, something, something, something.

So she's down there and like, they're and she points at a panel and she's like, that's where all the shit is coming from, all the bad fefies. When you pulled that plate off, even though I'm suppressed, something came through. Why don't you guys point all of your instrumentation at that? And so they scan it and Jordy turns on the X-ray beam and there are, there's like a skeleton in the wall, like baked into the wall. It's the same beam that they use to detect the warp bugs that were stuck to them, those parasites. Like this is basically the Dateline NBC UV spectrum flashlight that they have.

It's the wood's light with the UV filter. You do not want to point that at a hotel room remote control bin. You and I just spent a lot of nights in hotel rooms and I was glad I didn't have one of those with me because I feel like the temptation is to use it, but I feel like you're happier if you don't know, you know you ever smell a remote in a hotel room You don't want to do that. I don't know why I would smell something that is inside my asshole Adam You're not nearly that flexible They so they they're like they get these bones You were gonna tell me a hotel room story, Ben. I was gonna recall the hotel that we stayed at

that had IV services. Like they would send somebody to your room to give you an IV bag to make your hangover go away. Which did not turn me off enough to not wanna try it. Like, I was oddly curious about that. I just don't want a hotel putting something to try it. I was oddly curious about that. I just don't want a hotel putting something directly into my veins.

Can you think of a less sterile environment than a shared hotel room? Like, we're talking about remotes being put in assholes. Like, you're getting an IV put in next to that remote. Right. Yeah. Like, you just picture the technician coming in and like moving the remote to the side so that they can like put their, put their wares out on the, on the thing. And in that contact, you know, they like, they shift the Gideon's Bible and the remote

out of the way. And in that contact, they've just, they've just put some unspeakable shit onto their fingertips. Good, yeah. I can't imagine. There was like 10 different things on that menu too, a cocktail of IV treatments, depending on your needs. Yeah, if it hadn't been $300, maybe I would have been tempted,

but it was $300. Yeah, that's a great expense. That's therefore rock stars, right? Those IVs are for people who didn't have to rent a car spontaneously and drive six hours to Toronto in Cleveland. Cleveland Hotel notably did not have the IV, IV thing on offer. Not a big market in the Cleveland hotel room. Seems like people are a little bit better behaved over there. Well anyways, Troy and Wurf are off to a bit of a rocky start in their relationship because Troy has spotted Worf hanging out a little bit extra with Ensen Calloway, the

fetching young lady that Lieutenant Kwan left behind. She's pretty openly jealous of the fact that Worf and Ensen Calloway have done some computer together. They hop on a terrible lift at one point. She's like, do you regret what happened last night? And Worf is like, of course not. There seems to be a bit of like grief continuity, erroring happening with Callaway because like, she just lost her boyfriend in an awful way. And yet outside of the one scene in the beginning where she's told, she seems great afterwards. And I'm not going to question the way that people process their grief in situations like

this, but her grief is never addressed again. Yeah. I think what you have to kind of take into account is that this actress was on set and she was like listen I'm really like trying hard to prepare for my role and I killed my lesbian wife hung her on a meat hook And now I have a three-picture deal at Disney. So like if I could like have a character that is a little bit less emotionally Fraught than that. That would be great. I really need a break So they've they've narrowed it down to Ensign Drake as the suspect. Woff is going to go put the screws to him.

And Charlie goes back to her room and she's about to replicate herself up some chocolate or something. And he walks in and he's like, Lieutenant Wolf said he wanted to talk to me about something. And she's like, what are you doing here? And she feels really unsafe, so she calls security down. And they come down and he's like, I don't get what the, like what's the big whoop?

Wolf said you wanted to talk to me about something. Like this is, this is super weird and She'd like tell security to take him away and she's like trying to get in touch with Worf and Worf is not picking up and the computer tells her that Worf is in Ancient Caluay's quarters. So she goes down there opens the door and in a direct quarters. So she goes down there, opens the door and in a direct reference to the two people making out and laughing at that we saw earlier, orphans and calaher in there making out and

they turn and see Troy and they start laughing right at her. Right? Laughing in her face. Orph is a real dog. Warph is also a great laffer and we get so few warf laughs in this series, but when he really cuts loose, it does enjoy. It's like, it's like jaws, you know? Like it really has impact when it pops out. He's like, he's like, he's like, he's like, it's like jaws, you know?

Like it really has impact when it pops out. He's like, he's like, he's like, he's like, he's like, he's like, he's like, he's like, he's like, he's like, he's like, he's like, he's like, he's like, he's like, he's like, he's like, he's like, he's like, he's like, he's like, he's like, he's like, he's like, he's like, he's like, he's like, he's like, he's like, he's like, he's like, he's like, he's like, he's like, he's like, he's like, he's like, he's like, he's like, he's like, he's like, he's like, he's like, he's like, he's like, he's like, he's like, he's like, he's like, he's like, he's like, he's like, he's like, he's like, he's like, he's like, he's like, he's like, he's like, he's like, he's like, he's like, he's like, he's like, he's like, he's like, he's like, he's like, he's like, he's like, he's like, he's like, he's like, he's like, he's like, he's like, he's like, he's like, She grabs a dust buster and she fucking wass him, man. The dust buster that I guess was just out on a table.

That's in Galway was like in the midst of cleaning her gun when Worf came over for a make-out sash. And good for Councillor Troy like center-mashing Worf. Taken him down. Yeah. She is horrified at what she's done. She has immediate regret about murdering war. Many regrets. Yeah. She definitely holds the phaser like she's not used to

gating people. Yeah. She holds it like a grandma holds a TV remote. Do you think phasers for seniors have larger buttons? Like those phones? Yeah. Glow in the dark, everything. Yeah.

Yeah, Troy like stumbles out into the hallway, horrified at what she's done, and she's like running. And she's like, she's like about to go around a corner when the security detail is walking private drake and she like bumps right into him and just emotionless, he says, you know what you got to do. She's a phrase that Lieutenant Quang said right before he jumped into the plasma. Janet Kwong said right before he jumped into the plasma. Yeah. So we find her like at the ledge with a third eye blind playing in the background,

looking out over the plasma in a cell and she's saying to herself, she knows what she has to do is she like weeps and contemplates her impending death, when she gets grabbed. War for the wind reaches in and pulls her away and it turns out all of this has happened in the span of a couple of seconds

like a spell has been broken. Yeah, the first time she went up on that catwalk and had that personal banger drop down her, that was the last time we were in reality. This has all been happening in Troy's head. She is a puddle in Worf's arms. She is relieved and horrified at how close she came to ending her life.

There's a spiral of emotions in her that I think she acts the shit out of. Yeah. It's heavy. It also makes me think that like Riker could have saved Lieutenant Kwan from this fate if he had just grabbed him, you know. I thought the same thing. He was right there. He just needed to snap out of it.

He instead he was like fumble fucking around with an old car disc man and speaker system. Like, trying to hold that boom box up over his head. You know, if you put the CD in like on that little platter thing and it doesn't like connect all the way, it'll like start scratching inside and you got to open it up and press it back down firmly. Yeah, you don't have to replace that CD just because you didn't seed it properly in the in the disk changer. So what Troy's Extendo hallucination has revealed and what is

corroborated by Jordi going down and scanning the bulkhead is that there was in fact a murder involving private Drake at Utopia Planesia, but it was a murder suicide. He killed a couple that left him feeling an unrequited love, and then jumped into the plasma stream himself. He had a dab of betasoid in him. And when he jumped into the plasma stream, the like subspace, something, something knocked a bunch of his neural atoms into the bulkhead, and they left like an empathic echo that was perceptible to Lieutenant Kwan because of his alien heritage and to Troy because of her beta-zoid heritage. This is a really interesting variation of ghost mythology to me.

You know? Like the idea of when people die, they turn into spirits that can then be, that then have feelings that can be felt by the living. Like this seems like what that is. And it made me think like on a planet full of empaths, like beta-z, like how many deaths occur on that planet that could cast off these sort of after images. Like I wonder if the beta-zoid home world

is a profoundly haunted place for that reason. Yeah, you gotta make sure that people do not commit suicide via subspace methods. Right, yeah, but as far as Canon goes, really interesting, I thought. It also sort of illuminates something I've always wondered about, Troy's abilities, which is that they have something

to do with subspace. Like, you know, she's always able to kind of like get something off of people on the view screen. And I'm always like, how the fuck is that possible if they're like, if it's just, but it's all, it's, they use subspace to communicate. So if the empathic abilities are somewhat based on something going on in subspace, I guess that sort of, sort of guess that sort of completes that circle. Yeah, that makes sense.

Here's an interesting bit of trivia. It says, during the Anna's protracted hallucination, there are no exterior shots of the entrepreneur. This is a common method used in the show when the storyline is false or in someone's mind. Interesting. Interesting. Wow. I am glad I didn't know that bit of trivia before watching the series this time

because I would have looked out for it. It would have ruined the fun. I love that they were thoughtful enough about production and editing that this was a thing that they observed. Like, we make fun of a lot of the rules of this show, but... That's a pretty next-level shit. Yeah. Did you like this episode, Adam?

I really did. A lot. This is an especially science-fiction-y episode, while also being totally human and emotional. Yeah. And it was a great combination of the two. I thought this was a great bottle send-off for Marina Sertis slash DNA Troy. If this is, if this is her last episode where she is the focus, I thought she did great in it. Yeah, I really, I think this is one of the high points of season seven. Yeah, what about you? It was a solid app.

I liked it a lot too. Yeah, it was fun to see a private drake in there. It was fun to have kind of a, like a procedural where it's not a murder investigation, but a suicide investigation. Like I feel like that is an interesting, a uniquely interesting problem in this environment because it is so much not something a star fleet would do. Yeah. And so like they like that sort of pervades the

their Feelings about everything as they go through the episode Yeah, just a different tone and feeling throughout for that reason and I'm sure you check in on our p1 inbox if there's anything in there Yeah, let's do that priority one message from message from Starfleet coming in on Secured Channel. Need a supplement on that. A supplement on that? A supplement.

Yeah, it's extra. The interest alone could be enough to buy this ship. Adam, we have a priority one message here from Jeff or Jeff in Washington, DC for Keenan in Montreal. Goes like this kind of crazy connect leaves the Rysa that is Montreal boards the 13 hour train to DC and spends his birthday in the orange space but whole capital of Trump is staying just so he can take in the premature assimilation spectacular with his buddy, thanks man. This is for your birthday, for being my friend,

for 25 years, and for showing me this podcast. Whoa! Ben, I think one of the most surprising elements of the tour were the people who came up with us after the show and said, yeah, I flew in from England or I took a 13 hour train ride from Montreal. Amazing. I was blown away by the distances the people came to see the shows on the tour.

Like I still don't believe that. That's so cool. Yeah. Well, happy birthday, Keenan. It looks like we missed his birthday by a bit. His birthday was actually the 25th, which I believe was the night of that show. Cool. Oh no, the 27th.

Sorry. I'm looking at the wrong thing. Happy birthday. Yeah, happy birthday. Ben, our second priority one message is from Dan, it is for Kathy. Goes like this. Happy anniversary, Kathy. I'm more in love with you now than ever. Even though you made me watch move-along home from Deep Space 9, I'm yours forever.

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Drunk Shimoda! Drunk Shimoda! I'm going to give it to Lieutenant Kwan. Not for something he does, but for something somebody says about him, which is that he was really psyched to get stationed in the Port Nassel. Team Port. That seems like the Siberia of the ship to me. I can't imagine being like, yeah! I'm in the Nassau, baby! I do a lot of video work for like factory type labor. Yeah.

And in these large factories, there are teams of people who do, you know, the same thing over and over again, it's a production line. And the degree to which people form their own teams and their mascots and their logos is like a real thing. Like I shot some team members who called themselves the wingnuts, like after the fasciner, you know?

Like that's a thing and it's easy to do when you're in a workplace like this. And I think in a pseudo-military context like Starfleet, I think team left and the cell has got to be a thing, right? It's just him and the lady that has all the weird loaf on her face Those right and the cell assholes don't know what's happening at all Team left we beat him in the intramural basketball tournament every year. It's what we do. We're left to sell. How about you Adam? Did you have a drunk

Shimoda? Yeah, I'm going to give mine to data purely for the I considered suicide story early on in the app, which just felt so out of place, but also in place in the context of Star Trek as a series, like I know they have to turn to camera and make these pronouncements. But it is so awkward when they make the attempt. And so, God, man, there was like four seasons between drugs or bad and this, and they seem to have learned nothing from the ham hand in this, of how that was handled previously. So, I mean, it's not Brent Spiner's fault. It's just like, it's too bad that there has to be this moment

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I'm excited. You get your fishy Troy, you get your spatery barkly, you get your like bear-like wharf. You get your crow bear like wharf. You get your, your crow magnon riker. Like it doesn't take much to crow magnon riker. Really, it's like, it's like maybe a bit of forehead low, but other than that, he's like, he's pretty much crome,

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