The Greatest Generation - The Asteroid is Talaxian Culture (VOY S2E20)

Episode Date: October 11, 2021

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Priority 1 message from Starfleet coming in on Secured Channel. Hey friends of Disodo. Before today's episode, we just wanted to take a moment to talk about the historic labor actions being taken by writers and actors in the American Film and Television industry. If you're a fan of the work done by the people who make Star Trek, we hope you'll join us in standing in solidarity with the folks who actually bring these adventures to life. Over the past several years, the AMPTP, the organization that represents the American Film and Television Production Studios, have reduced the profit from movies and TV going to workers. And in so doing,

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It's a Star Trek podcast by a couple of guys who are a little bit embarrassed to have a Star Trek podcast. I'm one of those guys I'm Ben Harrison. I'm Adam Pryanaka. Wow, really letting that pregnant pause hang. Yeah. People are wondering, did Adam not come for this episode? I want people to wonder whether or not I came. Just generally.

You, here, was that it? That's all you're gonna produce? Huh, that's what you did. Adam, we have a lot of packages. I'm sitting in a room surrounded by boxes. Are you really? How tall is that stack? The stack is tall. I think there's eight things on this stack. You better get in. Open these packages. Open them? It is code 47, sir. Stockly emergency frequency. Captions eyes only. This is an auspicious package.

This first one here came from my hometown of Oakland, California. Wow. From a good, a good buddy of the show and of ours, Sarousse Farivar. Wow, really? Sarousse. Yeah. It's one of those priority male males. of ours, Saru's far apart. Wow, really? Saru's? Yeah.

That's one of those priority male-mailers. That's one of the best friends of Desotto. He sure is. Hey dudes, just wanted to say how much I appreciate you. Can't wait to get back to Bay Area live shows all the best from Oakland, Saru's. What has he sent us, Adam? This is an issue of entertainment weekly from August 4th, 2017 about this new Star Trek show that's coming out, Star Trek Discovery. Yeah, it's got friend of

the pod Mary Weisman in here with Doug Jones and Sonique Lamarton Green and Anthony Rapp. And he also sent some stickers. Oh, that's fun. Some transit-specific stickers, old boy, new boy on the, uh, the boat on the boat train. That's fun. I haven't gotten to ride new boy yet. I want to. Oh, yeah. Love me a boat train. You want to run a tram on new boy, don't you? I do. Alright, next package we've got here is from A Bowser in Buffalo, New York, and it's to us. Hey, we love Bowser. She's one of the best friends in DeSoto. Dear Ben and Adam, I grew up watching Star Trek with my dad, so every time I visit him, he gives me some random Trek memorabilia from his collection.

When I saw this, I knew I had to pass it along to you. I guess it's a book of pre-internet memes. Also, the podcast has been so great lately, I'm loving the Voyager episodes. A Bowser! Cardaddy's in the chat saying Ms. Bowser is at the zoo with her kid tonight and sends her best. We send our best to... Don't kidding! Ms. Bowser is at the zoo with her kid tonight and sends her best. We send our best to Ms. Bowser also. She fucking rules. A true friend of DeSoda.

Yeah. Wow. Join the crew of the USS Enterprise. Just for laughs. It's a book called Trek or Treat. Yeah, with the famous Bach quote, same to you, Rella. It is literally just every page is a photo from Star Trek and a jolly, humorous quote that wasn't set on the show.

Spock and McCoy holding phasers, gee, I didn't know it was loaded. Hmm, that's fun. You know what, it's really in like that Garfield book format, isn't it? All Garfield books are shaped like this. It's like a very wide paperback. Yeah. There's one of Kirk down on the, he's K-Oed

on the bridge of the Enterprise and McCoy looks off to camera and says, oh, he foed down, go boom. Mm. Yeah, all right. That's about boom. Hmm. Yeah, right. That's about all I wanted that book, Ben. Let's get to the next. Okay, fine. I thought Ms. Bowser's book was a cool gift, but I guess you don't.

I love Ms. Bowser. She nursed me back to health at Max von Konneest. I was being set upon by some people trying to ruin my time. She saved me. She's great. I didn't know that. What happened to you? Well, some people were trying to burn down

the location of Max von Konneest. And she took the only 60 to the later. Yeah. Yeah. All right. Next one is from Sam B. in Carrollton, Texas It's a very little piece of paper. I like that. That is a perfectly okay size of paper

Ben that gets the job done. I know it's have a normal like piece of printer paper That is and all the that's the amount of paper that you need listen if you have half of average That just means that you need to Listen, if you have half of average, that just means that you need to step it up in the oral department. Ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha and laughter seems like it's in short supply. Like so many friends of DeSoto before me, I wanted to give a little something back and closed our two custom Lego kits. I packed just for you. Since Lego never got the licensing rights

for Star Trek sets, fuck that KREO bullshit. Wow. I designed these little poly bag size builds of the iconic captains chairs from the two best entrepreneurs, the Big D and the No Bloody ABCRD. Wow, since both of you have built and subsequently destroyed our SVP, a total of three expert level sets, these should be simple by comparison.

Instruction seats in the proper Lego style are included and all the bricks have been sourced directly from the Lego company or from third-party sellers who sourced from brand new sets. As the Danish say, leg gut and as the Vulcan say, live long and prosper. There's truly Sam aka Doubt Furious. We know Doubt Furious we know doubt furious of course we do from internet. Yeah, wow so doubt furious has created two

branded Lego sets look at those of Kirk and Picard's chairs and they include all of the pieces That we are gonna need to make these and I'm thinking these are too small to really smash in a fun way But they look great. Yeah. Alright, we have one here from Jessica F in Pace, Florida. Dear Ben and Adam, I was browsing my local comic store the other day when I found these wild-looking DS9 comics.

I knew I had to send them to you guys. The ROM to the Rescue comic features our favorite daughter of the fifth house, Holter of the Sacred Chalice of Reeks, heir to the Holy Rings of Beta Zed, and Girlboss, Loxana Troy. The other features the dynamic duo of Jake and Naga, and also a pre-beard Cisco. Binging Greatest Jan has gotten me through the pandemic

and hardships of graduate school during a pandemic. I even introduce my mom and brother to the pod so we are a whole podcast family now. Wow. Terrible impressions. Make me laugh. I'm having an especially difficult day. Oh, they're talking about me. I don't know what I'm doing with that.

I don't know what I'm going to do when I catch up and have to wait a whole week for new episodes. Thanks for all you do and thanks of course including Rob's and Bill Tilly, PS, when I introduced my mom to the pod, the first thing she said was, so these guys just sit around in their basement and talk about Star Trek all the time. That is a very monopany. From the bottom of my mind. Yeah, I sit in my garage, but I had him,

you do kind of sit in your basement. I'd love for Jess in the chat right now. Just wanna say. Wow, I love to hear it. A wonderful person and discord participant. The discord is it. Awesome. DrunkShamota.com.

Here are Noggin Jake just slapping each other five. That's great. I love it. Yeah. Man, this is such early era, like look at the bump on Jetsia Dax's hair. That's like season one hair for Jetsia. Sure is. That's some big bun. Look at this Wolf 359 flashback with a Dell Soul class right up front. The battle does not go well for that Dell Soul. I don't think. It sure doesn't.

Let's get to our next package. This one is just too up-bridge-shermota and no from, at least on the outside of the package. Here is a letter. Dear Adam and Ben, listen to an FOD since TNG. My mom recently dug these up in my grandmother's old things. I figured one set for each of you and used the tin to store your jazgummies. Wow. Currently watching along with your apps with my ten year old daughter who loves cats

and calls to Kote Chipotle. Thanks for all the dick and fart jokes. A big fan Ian. That's from Ian B, who drew a picture of himself as an FOD. Wow. I like the idea of, I don't know if that's supposed to be a tattoo or like a sweatshirt that Ian is his wearing in his self-portrait? Is it a mask on the person?

I don't know, but I think PodShop.biz probably needs a sweatshirt that says FOD4EVA. We're getting a lot of inspiring ideas to Ned on the show. Sure, I hope Nick Dittmer is watching, but he isn't. Nope, definitely not. We got playing cards in box. I've got that set.

A Nesco brand start trick the next generation playing cards. Oh yeah. When you wanna play spiten malice with someone, you wanna use a Nesco brand playing cards. Really? Oh man. Oh yeah, it's like a regular poker deck, but with... Rip them open. But with a picture...

I don't know if there are... I'm ripping, I'm ripping. So on the back, you've got a picture of the TNG crew, and it is the post-tashe-yar era picture with Gynon in there. Whoever directed that photograph deserves our thanks, because putting putting Geinen in the middle was a great choice. Yeah, absolutely brilliant. Oh, they're just regular ass playing cards. Yeah, I was wondering if the like, jacks would be data, the queens would be Troy

or whatever, but it was such like, they're pretty regular playing cards on the, on the back. We could, we could get into some trouble with these, Adam, you could, you could, you could be a poker, or a blackjack. We could play some card war that's just high card. Yeah, and, and then I would just be mad at you.

People love hearing descriptions of regular ass cards. What I got here is a nine, Ben. What do you have? I've got an eight, but it's an eight of clubs. Does that get me anything? Wow. I mean, it does not. So the nine beats the eight.

On the suggestion of card war. All right, we're getting into the bigger packages now, Adam. This one is from the Preston Arts Center in Louisville, Kentucky, and that's the information we have on the exterior How did they get our address? I don't know. I'm guessing it was an individual at the Preston art center Or that was just a label that this individual had access to much like the individual at tic tac Twitter account like this is not the Prest in our center actual. This is a mole. I'm opening this.

There's some already some jazzy and artistic packing paper in here. Yeah. How about that? That's really nice. Are you the very careful present opener that slices through the tape and folds flat the wrapping paper?

Seems like you might be. I don't think this will surprise anybody listening or any of the people watching on the live stream, but there are pieces of wrapping paper that have been in my family for over a decade because we are all extremely careful present-done wrappers and we save everything. I'm just watching Adam melt. I love I love the idea of the Christmas day last like four days for you. It absolutely does. It's just a breeze your lot of paper laying it out really flat so that we can collect it up later. Gotta do that. We got two letters here, Adam.

I'm impressed in Art Center. One says off-air. The other says on-air. I'm gonna leave this one to the side. Yeah, we should trust them. The off-air one can get red later. But for now, Adam and Ben greeting from Louisville, Kentucky, a great city to visit and an even better one to live in. Please accept these modest goods as a token of my, not my wife's

appreciation for all the years of laughs and togetherness. Through the time spent listening to TGG, I've become a father, a homeowner, a business owner, and now an artist. Hand-marbled ties and you guessed it scarves. I tried to make these as space-tastic as possible. Maybe the ties get enough for Chris Brenner? Uh, I'm Chris Brenner. Brenner information systems. You know, interface operations, net access, channel 90. That Chris Brenner!

Ah ha! Perhaps the scarf would bring a smile to the face of Row Lairon. All I hope is that they're good enough for you. Be well, continue to do what you're doing. Andrew Preston, wow. Andrew Preston's a real drop-pimp from the sounds of it. Indeed. PS Blacklight included.

Andrew has included a flashlight that I guess is a... I don't know if people can even see that. Oh, that's one of those Blacklight flashlights that you use to pick up filthy spots by the hour hotel. I'm going to see what happens when I use this in my bedroom later. You know what we should do? We should get a room for the last night that the Rio exists. And we should bring that light.

We should. Andrew has made us each a necktie and these are really keying out badly, but they're really cool like in there. Andrew, that's a come tie. It absolutely is. I'm gonna put mine on, Adam. I know you can't, because you're in a different place than I am,

but I show the respect that a come tie deserves. You really do, eh? Yeah. I'm gonna put it on. This is what's called a foreign hand knot to those of you viewing on the Twitch dormit. You are the dorkiest. Twitch account.

Look at you. You don't even need a mirror. You can just do it right to camera. God, you are so dorky. What the fuck? I'm not dorky. I'm dapper. So you want this dimple, right? You want that, you want that crease right in the middle

at the knot and you can just kind of form that with your finger. And then when you tighten the knot, tighten it at a 90 degree angle to your neck so that the tie kind of has a little shape to it as it comes off. And then you flip down your collar. Yeah. Hey, now you're down your collar. Yeah. Hey, now you're looking dampers hell. When you were on the crew team, is this how you dressed? Yeah, we just rewrote in black tie. And then we each have kind of a

gossamer-thed and scarves, which are very appropriate to the weather here in our town of Los Angeles. Yeah. We also each got a little Preston Art Center 80th anniversary paintbrush here. Oh uh, Preston art center 80th anniversary Paintbrush here. Oh, that's great the 80th anniversary. I love the Preston art center. I love the I love the paintbrush I love the scarf still thinking about that tie though. All right Adam We've got just two packages left this package is from beastly art in Los Angeles, California, our hometown.

This looks like it may have just been drop shipped to us because it's got special tape on it and stuff. But maybe it's a Preston Art Center situation, I don't know. No, there's a letter in here. This is a hand signed letter. That's what you want? Ben and Adam. Yeah. Do you're Ben and Adam? I just want to join the chorus of people telling you how much you helped during this past year.

Basically, two things kept me sane during 2020, joining a pottery studio and viewing your pod more often than is probably recommended. Trek has always been my comfort food TV and I think some deep part of my primate nervous system is gullible enough to believe that if I can hear my two favorite parasocial buddies goofing on for some reason Jake instead of screaming in panic about the state of the world then maybe I can relax a little and worry about you know everything later. I know you guys are mostly dog people but have you heard of those cat calming products that mimic the pheromone smell of chill happy cats in order to convince freaked out kiddies that everything is okay. I had a house full of them up in Seattle. No

kidding. Every outlet. Thank you for being the audio version of that for me and for a lot of other people. Anyway, remember way back before my belabored cat metaphor when I said I've been doing pottery? Well I've made you this pair of trek themed copitas to help you work your way through all the mezcal other FODs of scent. Maybe you need a mezcal and a mezhal square on the board. That sounds great.

Ben, I just got a bottle of ensemble that I wanna have with you. Oh yeah? I got it a couple of days ago. Oh snap. Well, I'm guessing we're about to open the vessels out of which we will be drinking that. Yeah. Good idea.

Also, another suggestion here is tequilax with niulix. Never mind. That's nothing. Great. No, that works. That plays. I've never made copitas before. So here's hoping I got the basic concept

right. Thanks again and I hope you enjoy. And if I'm in the Twitch chat right now, hi, if not, it means I had to work and I'm sad I missed this. Kapla, Leslie. Leslie, say what's up if you're in the chat. Hey, That's great! Thank you, Leslie! Wow, these are beautiful! Whoa! Star Trek logo Copitas! Those are amazing! There's two of them here!

You could, that's a lot of mezcal to take to the dome. I gotta say. Oh man. Those are beautiful! These are gorgeous! Really cool! These were created by an extremely talented artisan. Look at the insides are so glossy.

Wow. Yeah. Really gorgeous work Leslie. Thank you so much. Leslie, you rule. That, uh, I'm going to save that ensemble bottle for when Ben and I can get together and drink out of those vessels. That's amazing. This is it Adam.

We're here. We've reached the end. This package is from Aaron H. in Laurel, Maryland. Mm-hmm. Dear Ben and Adam, they ran across the enclosed figure on a road trip in a vintage toy store in Metropolis, Illinois, Superman's hometown. I had a strange feeling that you guys might want it, but I can't remember why. Perhaps something's gone wrong with my memory? Love the pod. I never really got into Voyager when it was on, but I'm really enjoying watching it, along with you guys, all the best, Aaron!

I'm with Aaron. Never watched it when it was on. Really enjoying it. Wow! Memory joke lands, lands. It's another Kern figure. Amazing. Look at his chest. His chest is absolutely fucking shredded. He's got the loaf that goes all the way down. It is literally... It's literally shredded.

He looks like he's been shot with a shotgun in the chest. I have a Kern of this design, Adam, so this one is yours. Oh, I want it. I really want that. I appear to be terribly wounded through the chest. And yet, I do not remember how it happened. Not everyone keeps their memory in the same place, Captain Kirk. If Lowerdex brings back memory loss, and Huxbridge. That would be murder to us. Honestly, I might quit greatest discovery.

I want to be those voices so bad. I want the both of us to be both voices. If memory loss, Kern comes on Glowrdex, I want it to be two bad impressions of Kern being passed back and forth. And it's never explained in the show. You have to like, like, greatest gen to understand why that's happening.

Marinor has to do an errand on Kronos and like, she has to pass through some security apparatus. And there's Kurt who's like, take out your phone and keys and place them in the Astray for me to visually inspect. I'm sorry the metal detector went off. Do you have any Surgery's we should know about God, I know Mike McMahon's cool. He's gonna be cool with this. He's gonna be fine with this I hope do we need to like write a spec script and send it in? Is that what we do? I think we do and I think we can.

That's so much fucking work. Bay, hey, Ben. What's that Adam? I've already started. I'm like, I'm 12 pages into the spec. I haven't told you this, but I actually started writing it. I can't believe you started that without me. Yeah, I'm hurt. It's happened. Well, you don't have to be hurt. We're 10 pages away from finishing it. And you know this process. I'm gonna I'm gonna put it on a notes page where we can both Hack into bits and then I'll send to Mike McMahon and then'll hear nothing back. Do you have his contact info? If his email address isn't MMM at Paramount Plus, then I don't know. Yeah, fair enough.

We should get our fancy Hollywood agent to send it in. That'd probably move me. We can do that. I'm looking in the chat. I do not. You never move the needle for anything else, but. I do not see our fancy CAA agent in our chat right now, so. I don't think we're there.

Ha ha ha ha. Wow, well Adam, we have a big episode to get to today. Do you want to get into Star Trek Voyager Season 2 Episode 20 investigations? Sure. Reaver course. Unless you've got something a little bigger in your torpedo tubes, I'm not turning around. Neelix has made a grave error in the beginning of this episode, Ben.

One that many companies have made, even recently for some reason, he's pivoted to video. He had a good thing going with the business, he was running, it was successful. Yeah. And to try to find an edge. What he needed was an atom there to talk him out of trying to do more Twitch streaming.

Right, yeah, I would have been great at that. I have all the energy for that. But what Nelix has made, it's so weird. Like, I wanna know everything about this decision. And I don't mean Nelix's decision, I mean the production decision. Making it look like Nielix's decision. I mean the production decision. Making it look like Nielix is recording a kind of student news program with all the production value of like a 1970s

drivers at the year. I don't get this. Yeah, welcome to another episode of the greatest briefing with Nielix. Right. Where we review briefing with Nelix. Catchy title, is it? He's an affable host. He's a better host than we are, certainly. Yeah. Oh, yeah. After all, as your morale officer,

isn't it my job to bring a little joy into everyone's day? What is bizarre as hell, and we'll get into this a little bit later, is how fucking popular his show is. Everyone watches it. They not only watch it, but they stop what they're doing to watch it. We've become bored with watching actors give us phony emotions. The couple of times in this episode where they like cut around the ship, it kind of makes it seem like his ratings are really unbeatable. This is why Paris is leaving the ship. He's like, that guy? Really?

Yeah. So, uh... Whenever's keeping him out of the kitchen though, right? Yeah, right, right, exactly. Um, Nielix pitches Doc Hollode on doing a segment on this ship, which I thought was interesting because if Nielix is the morale officer, I would say that Doc Holliday is sort of the anti-Mural officer. Yeah, that's a good call. Except, like, I feel like the doc could be a very popular aspect to the show if he just

did a bunch of gross out reporting on crazy diseases and things that he knows about. Wouldn't that be great? Like, here's the gross out disease of the day with Doc holiday. That would be much better than when he comes up with, which is just like, nostril facts. Or whatever. Right.

He needs a little bit more showmanship. I guess it's, I mean, if we're, you know, like, I think that a very interesting thing to do on this show would be to come up with, who is the polar opposite of Nielix? And maybe down the line do something really funny with that. But... Uh-huh. Yeah, you're right.

As it is, the doc approaches this project from like a middle school health counselor kind of position, right? Like doing the bare minimum because that's the mandate. Like, you can't get too interesting or in the weeds if you're him. I thought it was surprising that Ensign Kim pitched him on a, like, hey, like, you should bring more, like, salacious and divisive content to your program to, like, get the crew polarized and pit it against each other.

Kim, what ship do you think you're on? That is like the main thing everyone is working to avoid. Hanson Kim could have just skipped over the part where he disclosed he was a huge journalism nerd back in school. And like we could have assumed this about him. Yeah, tell me you're a huge journalism nerd without telling me a huge journalism nerd. I wrote a editorial about it and the students became polarized on the issue. I guess that hard band news wasn't enough for him back in the day. He had to break some real stories and his encouragement of

Nelix feels like something he's gonna take and run with. It's all the push Nelix needs to like really go off the deep end with what his programming is going to look like going forward. Yeah. Anyway, see you later, Ensign Kim. We'll barely see you for the rest of the episode. Yeah. Yeah.

We meet a friend of Neelix's over FaceTime. His guy's name is Laxith, and he is another talaxian who has recently gone legit and is now working as the comms officer in a talaxian convoy. I like this tiny bit of trivia here that maybe, I mean, because we've met so few talaxians, maybe all talaxians have X's in their names. We can assume that, right?

It's sort of like a T apostrophe, K apostrophe, Klingon sensibility. Right, yeah. I think you're right about that. I think that so far we haven't encountered any non-X named talaxians. Do you think, guys? They're sort of the basks of the Delta Quadrant.

God, you took that in a far and dirtier direction than I was about to, which was, do you think DMX is a Tlaxian? We're the, we're Tlax, we're Tlax, we're Tlax, we're Tlax at. We're the smart, in and Stupid Yang of this show. I guess we could settle this by finding out how much seedra they drink. Right. So, yeah, this guy drops a bomb on Nelix, which is that this convoy is meeting up with Voyager pretty soon to offload a crew member.

Somebody from Voyager is getting off and this is a pretty shocking piece of news. Neelix was looking for a divisive and polarizing issue to start vlogging on his program. I mean, as soon as there was some speculation about a crew person getting off, my mind just went to Ensign Kim immediately. But no, it wasn't that kind of getting off they were talking about that. Yeah, someone wants to transfer who would want that? And then we crash into theme, just dangling that. Yeah, the number of places my mind went was quite big.

Really? Both in terms of like who could it be, but also under what pretext could it be? It would have been great if this entire build up for all of these episodes. It turns out that Jonas is the guy just like getting a simple transfer. I'm not really into this whole thing, so. Like SESKA's evil plan or whatever is just totally irrelevant because S sesca's just going to pick Jonas up from the talaxi and chip. Well, they play with this tension when we come back from theme because Nelix is in there, spilling the beans to the captain.

And initially, the scene is sort of set up to kind of head fake at this is also news to the captain. Janeway is like, you know we have a policy against snitches, which is why I've brought the doctor in to give you some stitches. Yeah. She had two-vac decide it's okay if Nielix knows at this point. Yeah. Nelix sees this as a personal failure, not only of his job as morale officer, but as Tom Paris' friend.

He's very affected by this. I guess I hadn't noticed it. I hadn't focused on it, I guess. But they have really done a nice job of arcing the way those two characters interact with each other over a two-season run. I was with you on this. What we get primarily is Nelix sticking a wet finger in two-voxes ear every other episode.

And barely any interaction between Paris and Nelix, I guess. Outside of the jealousy component that we were force-fed for a season and a half, right? Yeah, but they squashed the beef and like built a different thing. Isn't that nice? Yeah, it is. Nelix, we know he has kind of one reflex in moments like this.

How can I make this about me? Right. So he goes down to Paris's quarters where Paris is literally In media pack. I love seeing his closet, didn't you? It was just stacks upon stacks of brown dumpy sweaters You're welcome, ladies. Come on Paris like get to mix some colors in there He really shops at the same store as late season Wesley Crusher did. Yeah.

Wesley, the boy. The boy. Young Wesley Crusher. My son. Yeah, he's an Eddie Bauer, man, through and through. But like the Eddie Bauer of the late 90s, early 2000s, you know. Yeah. He looks as like, is it the food?

Is it the food that's driving you away? Because I got news for you. You're going to a ship of only Helaxians. I'm the best cook they have. It's so interesting how little subtext there is about the Helaxian part of this. Because as you were saying, Neelix is the only one, like Neelix is writing for Neelix here, and not shedding any light

on the Miriam challenges that Paris is going to face over there while integrating in Tlaxian culture, right? We know nothing about them. Yeah, and I mean, like he's making the case that he's like a rolling stone that gathers no moss, so maybe he's gonna throw in with the Tlaxians for as long as he can tolerate them

and then jump ship again. Am I making any sense here? It turns out, Tlaxians just have a low level accusatory vibe for Paris about him watching the fuck there. Yeah. There's special people. Mm-hmm. Yeah, I mean, there's some nice freezane for a guy

that says unlucky and love as Paris going to an entire convoy of people that are gonna suspect him of having an affair with their special lady. He really kind of squats down into the ballkicking machine, all on his own here. Paris really goes in on himself, claiming to be a guy who is unworthy of friendship or affection or good food. He tells, he like, he couldn't understand, he wouldn't understand, he shouldn't understand.

I'm a longer time, a rebel. Yeah, it's pretty sad. Do it, do it. There is some good news. The doc is in on doing a segment for the show. Uh-huh. The appeal of celebrity has really gotten to the doctor's head. Yeah, unfortunately, Nelix is gonna bump him.

Like, Matt Damon gets bumped from the Jimmy Camel Show. Whatever happened to him being called Schmolless. Was it, was it Schmolless? I think it was. He never said like I renounced the name Schmolless. You know, I think it's, it's like the further you get in proximity and time from your crush. The more the decisions made around that person seem unwise and embarrassing. Like I think maybe, maybe now that that lady

took off, the doc is like, yeah, Schmollis, terrible name. Not going to go with that one. Especially if I'm going to try and like meet a new woman. Right. Yeah, you don't want to carry that old name baggage into the new lady situation, a new woman. Right. Yeah, you don't want to carry that old name baggage into the new lady situation, right? Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. That's an awkward conversation for a first date. Yeah. Today's show is what shows us just how popular Nielix's morning program is. It's sort of like if there were an emergency broadcast over every channel, like in an apocalyptic

movie, you know, you get the scene where someone's walking by a storefront and they turn and they watch the display of televisions there. This is that kind of montage. They've taken over every screen and time square. Some of the president can tell the gathered tourists about the asteroid or whatever.

Yeah, and I guess in this metaphor, the asteroid is tilaxian culture and Paris is what's going to get hit by it. And he like starts his broadcast speaking a little bit circuitously about who he's talking about and he is describing a man who, when he first met him, thought was untrustworthy and an opportunistic jerk. And the first person we see watching the broadcast is Chico Te, and the camera pans down to a pencil snapping in Chico Te's fist.

Before it's revealed that it, in fact, Tom Paris that Neelix is talking about. Chico Te's got to be wishing they were just going to Tom Paris that Neelix is talking about. Chico Tei's got to be wishing they were just going to blow Paris out the airlock at this point. If you were Chico Tei, wouldn't this be the moment where you went to the captain and went like, the fuck? Yeah, I think so. Chico Tei sidelined throughout this episode, really. It's an interesting scene for its construction, right?

Because Nelix is given the voiceover role to Paris's departure, which is wordless from Paris. He's like all the way into the transport room when he gives his combat to Kim, like he says nothing and then gets on the pad and goes. Yeah. You're going to want to take that combat with you, Tom Paris. Like that's a really valuable piece of tech to have in an emergency, I think. Yeah, one for the road, right?

Like, yeah. Like, you would have been great if like every scene of Warf resigning his commission went through the ritual of putting the combat on the desk and then after it warf was like, I mean, you know this is how it works. I'm also going to take the comb back with me because in case I get into trouble and so on and so forth. This was just symbolism. Right.

My smell test went off in this scene though because I just. Oh, you're smelling again now. I am smelling again. Have you fully recovered? I would say that I'm like 90% of the way back. So when you bury your face into your dog's fur, you're fully smelling. Can smell dog. That's the test, right? It's the dog test.

It's the dog test and I passed it, baby. Flying colors. Congratulations. The reason this scene struck me a strange is that I don't believe Paris leaving the ship would be Attended only by these three characters. It's just Nielix Kess and ends and Kim there to see him off like he didn't Exchange a goodbye with the captain You know Chico Tated and say don't let the transporter hit you on the way out

It's a great point when characters leave the transporter hit you on the way out. It's a great point when characters leave the show in a planned kind of way. They get that series of scenes. They get the minor key music. They get a hallway lined with their co-workers on the way to the transporter room. And it's like he's going on vacation. Right. Almost. You want me to bring you back to Zubanir. he's going on vacation. Right. Almost.

You want me to bring you back to Zubanir? It's called a Horgon. I wanted it to cut a little deeper. Yeah. Or just have a scene where Chico Tei is down in sundry and it's like changing the whole thing, like re-rejectorating. Just beating the shit out of it with pool cues.

And then like announcing that there's going to be one last lottery to, you know, one lucky winner will get Paris's replicator rations. Sound dreams is now a sweat lodge. Fucking deal with it. You get on the things that I like to do from now on. There's no lottery here. So they have them a Glock one group. And Chico says, like, who's the next guy I'm going to drive off of the ship? Who's the next one up? Bit of a problem going on with the warp engines, Adam.

Yeah, there's a little bit of a vibration at speed. You don't like that. Yeah. It kind of sounds like if there was a wooden shoe wedged into some of the machinery. Hence the word, sabotage. That wooden clucking, clobbing sound. It's not good. Interesting like the expressions around the table here for this meeting, right? Not the happiest work meeting of all time. And Kim is like, you know, they're talking about like, who are they going to put on Paris's shifts?

And Kim is like, he's gonna taste the food over there and he's gonna want back in. Like, do we really close the door this fast? Kim asks the captain, like, what if he wants back? And Jane was like, well, we have his combat. So I think it's pretty clear. We'll never see him again. We have no way of finding him.

Jonas Radio's BLT, like toward the end of this meeting with the engine problem. It's dire enough that she's got to get over there right away. The warp engine is getting worse and worse and Nielix tags along so that he can cover the stuff going on in the engine room. They're trying to keep the core from growing critical and they're also trying to avoid having to vent plasma out of the warp-ness cells because that will kill their ability to go to warp temporarily. You don't need to know anything about Star Trek or its technology to get that

as this sound in the room is getting louder and more high-pitched. Things are getting worse and worse as time goes on. This whistle is going to go nuclear and I thought that it was a pretty good piece of spycraft that Jonas goes and freshens himself up at a console right next to the engine. There's coffee, and Mr. Jonas. Ouch. Oh, it's bad.

Like bad enough to where there're beaming people straight to Six Bay, three casualties, Ben. Or what they've got from this. They're fucking dead. Casualty, a word I now know the true definition of. Casualties in the sense that parts of these crew people's bodies have just been turned into raisins. And during this time, Nelix tries to interview Jonas,

who is not interested in talking about his experience. Here's a theory that I have, Ben. And this scene is what made me think of it. Can Neelix not tell when things are burned? Is that the problem with his cooking? Because he's trying to interview Jonas like everything is fine. Jonas looks like a pile of raisins. Right. Yeah. Jonas looks like like Scotty's nephew. Yeah. Who died? I think maybe Neelix has burn blindness and it translates into everything he does.

Wow. Both personally and culinarily. God damn, maybe you're right. That's an upside. Burn blindness. Yeah. I didn't even know that that was an affliction you could get. You'd have to have a college roommate

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Yeah, and they got to find the materials to do it. Where are they going to get the raw materials, Ben? Always a problem. Always a challenge for the Voyager crew. Hemickek. Hemickek. Hemickek. Sounds like a drug you would take to force upchuck. It really does. This is also a planet we're familiar with from a previous sesca conversation with Jonas. She's all starting to come together. Yeah, it is. And this is also when they get the news that Tom Peris has been grabbed by the Nistrum. They get one more facetime from Laxeth.

And he's like, hey, just to let you know our entire confloy got totally fucked up, but they didn't steal any very stuff. They just took Paris. Thought you should know. Yeah, I mean, luckily everyone's fine over here. They largely left the cargo alone. I mean, I'm fine. Look at me. You went great.

It was just a smashing grab and what they grabbed was Tom Paris. We're not mad about it or anything. I mean, to be honest, as a pilot, he was fine. What I didn't like was how he was looking at my wife. It seemed suspicious. Anyways, I'm glad that he's going to be a problem for a case on men and their wives now. Plenty of broom closets over there. He's their broom closets problem. What I had been advising was put him on a ship that only has women that are in their third trimester.

Right. Yeah. Because that's where he's gone. He's gone aboard the K-Z on ship to meet third trimesca. Yeah, that's good. That's good. It's really good. That's at least as good as Ram Yarlin. It gets better the more I think about it. Yeah, it's fun. If you find yourself on sesca ship after the chico

tay situation, you got to be expecting to give up some come, right? Tom Paris. Hello, sesca. She throws a sample jar to him. A couple of magazines. a sample jar to him and a couple of magazines. Get to crank in Paris. Yeah. Because you're not gonna like how the K's hunt get it out of you. She kind of pitches him on the, like this is what Darth Vader says,

Deluxe Gotta Walker the first time they meet. Yeah, come. Why don't we, why don't we give him a, you can come yourself or we can make you come later? That's what Darth Vader says. Vader just wants that nice, nice come. Yeah. That Skywalker come as worth its weight and gold.

SESC is a fun character. I like her in this scene. I know all about what's happened. Your sudden inability to be Starfleet's good boy. Paris is not broken, petulenceence for episodes and episodes now. And so he's ready. He's ready to throw it right back in her face. The cum, I mean.

Pfft. Pfft. Pfft. Do you think that they stopped doing whatever operations they were doing to return her to her Cardassian look because of her pregnancy? I think you're saying this because I also notice that her spoon look kind of shallow to me. Yeah, she's like, she was like in a transitional period for a minute, but it doesn't look like they've gone to full Cardassian loaf, you know. She may have melted recently. I mean, that's a theory. Yeah, I don't know. God, she's so fucking dumb, though.

Like, all right, well, I've made my warning. You haven't taken me up on my offer. Go and make yourself comfortable in this room with a computer in it. And then Tom gets to work looking for tax documents here. You just can't leave an unlocked computer around Tom Paris or anyone else really. Yeah, he starts sorting folders by file size and he's off to the races. This is how

you know, right? This is the moment. This has been a mission the whole time. Yeah. And he's even got like a little spy gadget folded up in the sleeve of his shirt. As an order of operations question, do you like when you know this in this episode? I suspected it before this, so I was happy that they got the reveal out of the way. That's fair. But I feel like there would have been another way of playing it where Paris remained a question mark for way longer, but they would have needed the gubbi scene

to play out really differently if that was the case. One of the things that the TNG episode gambit did really well, is it really played a lot with our knowledge of Picard, our believing he hasn't turned and yet time after time, giving us a version of Picard that makes us doubt that. If he has nothing to give us, we should kill him now and be dumb of it. And this episode doesn't do that at all with Paris

in a way that I was kind of hungry for. Like I wanted to be in doubt a little bit more than I was. Where that doubt is transferred is back onto the crew, though. Right. Well, and like Nielix picks up on something that I had wondered about, which is how do you explain the case on going and grabbing Paris only. It seems like it wasn't them shaking down to axioms. It seems like them going and getting Paris.

And Nielix smells a rat here. I'm surprised that he can smell that because he can't smell that the food is burning in the kitchen. Yeah, he's standing in his restaurant and right behind him. There's like a there's like a pot of chili just turning into a cinder. It's like the scene in the naked gun movie where Drebyn is like nothing to see here. Everything's under control. and it's like nothing to see here. Everything's under control. Please, this hurts. For BLT is working a double in engineering

when Nelix hits her up for some help with the comm logs. And Jonas is the guy, like what's great about this is BLT is like no time. Jonas, hop in here. And it's his job to sort of help Nielix with his mission. There is fun tension in this scene, right? Yeah. Like, the bad guy is there to help Nielix

look through the computer. And he does some really fun face acting when Nielix notices that gap in the data entry. We talk a lot about Jonas, the character, but Raphael Sabarge, this is his episode to take over. And he really does. Yeah, it's a lot about Jonas the character, but Raphael Sabarge, this is his episode to take over and he really does. Yeah, it's a lot of fun. They are looking at the subspace transmission logs and are finding some stuff that is pretty

suspicious. Everybody else has left engineering conveniently, and Jonas gets some kind of like cutting torch. Looks like he's going to turn it into a Nelix Broulai. What you wanna do is get the Nelix skin nice and crispy so you can just like thwack it with a spoon. Oh, yeah. To get into that Nelix custard inside.

Mm-hmm. It's delicious. It's delightful. This was so great. Yeah, saved by the doc though. The doc doesn't know he saved himself from some work here. I know, yeah. And he looks taking calls from a doctor like this just reveals that he needs a producer.

But it's like where are you going to find the time to hire the producer when you're doing all of the work of the host and the producer? God, I know. We have really found that out the hard way as our producer hiring practice drags on into another month. And not. Yeah. The show has the upper hand now, Ben.

Yeah, yeah. I mean, and you know, I think it's understandable. Nelix got COVID for a week and that, you know, slowed everything down by quite a bit. Jonas went to Wisconsin a week after that. We're not going on. Yeah. Nealix takes these suspicious logs to Tuvac

and brings them to his attention. Tuvac, who is in his quarters just reading my pet goat? Because this is Tuvac's job. Yeah, if you notice the pad Tu-vox is holding his upside down. Yeah. Two-vox doesn't seem to realize that he's doing a bad job for not discovering this before Nelix. Nelix who has an entirely other job to do on the ship and has still uncovered all this

evidence, while this is two vaks only responsibility. Yeah, well in retrospect this is an example of a Vulcan lying and I think that this is like one of the interesting utilities of a character like two vaks is that he is a practiced deception artist and in this scene he basically invokes national security to call Neelix off of the case. I will pursue the matter. And I will help you. I think not. You're saying he's lying because Tuvac already knows this about the com logs? Yeah, because I mean, at the end of the episode, they say that like they knew somebody was sending subspace messages off the ship because he found it first,

he found it before anybody. That was a detail that was a little squishy to me. Like I figured he knew that, but I didn't think that he grasped the detail that Nelix was bringing him here. Yeah, which is why I saw it as just a bad two-voch look. No, I think what he's doing is trying to control for the chaos agency of Nielix by calling him off the scent. What's really interesting about the end of this scene is

that two-vac asks Nielix to drop it, but is this an order and could it possibly ever be an order? Because Nielix is not a real crew person, is he? Like, wearing a badge doesn't make you in Starfleet. So what exactly, what power does two-vac have? How does that have just standard security shit? I guess we would need to see the civilian employee rulebook for working on a ship, but I imagine if you get an order from a member of the crew, you have to follow it, right?

Like he's not in the chain of command per se, but he also like has to do whatever the captain says. I bet it's kind of like how a passenger has to listen to a flight attendant. Like you must obey the instructions in that case. Tufak should have a duct tape neil looks to a chair for the rest of the episode. Yeah.

Yeah. Tufak's only chair for the rest of the episode. Yeah. Yeah. Two bucks only paid when the ship is in motion. Shh. Coffee, black. Make it yourself. I'm trying to help you see this as an opportunity to grow. Make it yourself. The other guy that has been kind of a character

that has been running in the background for several episodes alongside Jonas is this guy Hogan who he seems to have sort of Jonas like sympathies, but has not like gone full villain the way Jonas has, but he seems like a little shifty, so that's why I think of him as Skull Hogan. God you're just on fire today. God, you're just on fire today. Ha ha ha ha. God, you're so good at this. Hogan has almost beta-zoid-like eyes to me. He's got a great face.

I wish I looked like Hogan. It looks great. Great looking dude, and like legitimately helpful in a way that I found totally believable. The sort of Starfleet guy you want in any job? You want to recover deleted logs? Oh, that would be ideal. Oh, let me give it a try.

Not letting Nielix get up in his shit to distract him for what he's doing, but just like, low-key, he's got that simmer of helpfulness, running it all times. Like, he's sort of like an ace hardware employee. Like, because he helps Nielix in this scene and then he like practically talks Nelix out of the room with more and more advice.

It's great. Yeah, whereas Jonas is more like a home depot employee who you're like, is this the right kind of cock for my kitchen counter and they're like, cock? Oh man, you're so fucking right. Yeah, Hogan is the helpful engineer employee. And Jonas, Jonas is a fucking big box retailer asshole. Yeah, I wanna be clear, I'm not like,

all retail employees have very hard jobs and like, I'm not calling Home Depot employees assholes. That job is very hard. I think what you're doing is calling Home Depot a shitty company for failing to train its employees as well as some other hardware employees. Yeah, that's it. So get off my fucking back. Fucking leave Adam alone. I like you. Stop writing. Okay. Okay, come on. Ace is great. Ace is my place. Ace is my hardware store of choice. It's a good hardware store. So what they find is a where.

Where on the ship these transmissions happened from and it looks like they've been like encoded in some engine process so they wouldn't have gone out on the normal antennas that would be monitored by security. So, Nielix is off to the section of the ship where these transmissions were sent from, and where does he find himself, but Tom Paris's vacant quarters. Yeah. They have not been reassigned. Nobody got upgraded yet. No, and not a sweater to be found there.

The, uh, Sad to see those quarters without any sweaters in them. The revelation is clear. Paris is a traitor. Paris was the bad guy. This warrants another McLaughlin group at him. Issue 2. Sure does.

Neelix's brought to Janeway for a ball kicking here. There's less of ball kicking for Neelix and more of a butt kicking for Chicoete because this plant happened behind his back. Another really severe indignity for Chicoete that he weirdly takes very little umbrage with. And by the way Chicoete, both me and Nelix are pregnant with your child. Hahaha. Why the fuck does this keep happening to me? The J-Slash C people will be psyched to hear it. Yeah. Hahaha.

I mean, they did a good job of like framing this so that it wouldn't hit Chico Te as hard as it possibly could, which is like we didn't want to put you in the position of having to like, fuck over somebody that used to be one of your crewmates. I mean, yes and no, because we're not with him long enough to feel how he feels about this. And this is like one of my main gripes with this episode is that so much happens to Tukote, but Tukote is in this episode for 30 seconds. And I want to live with his pain here over this, over this and in subsequent scenes too. Robert Beltran had to come down to the lot, get in makeup, get in wardrobe, get his balls kicked and then drive home. Uh, yeah.

Robert Beltran, this might be too inside baseball for for the rest of this auditorium full of thousands of people Waiting behind behind me to ask a question But like how frustrating is it for you to get into makeup and wardrobe for an episode that you're only in for 15 seconds All right, thanks. I'm gonna take my answer while I'm walking the Much Bruce All right, thanks. I'm going to take my answer while I'm walking the much boost. It's a long walk. They basically tell Nelix to continue working. You're going to be our canary in this coal mine. You're going to be the undercover agent here. And the group agrees that this is very dangerous work, but two Vax,

like, yeah, we just keep his con line open. It's fine. Yeah. We need you to start to sell that you're like, not so sure it was Paris and keep rooting around for information. I had a real problem with keeping the con line open though. That is a part of this plan that I would push back on pretty hard. Like all I need to do is hit the con badge, right? Why do you need to keep it open? I can open the combat.

I was dying for a scene of like two people in the security team who have been stuck in a room just like monitoring Nielix's combat like listening to him take a bath or something and just pulling her out. This is so dark. I've never seen from a submarine movie just like in a closet holding the headphones

on their ears. Just I think he's burning some Leola root. How many baths does one guy take, Jesus? Back on the K-Zone ship, Tom finally finds the tax documents folder, and he also finds a FaceTime where Jonas and Seska discuss what's going on. He gets it cleared up just enough to make a positive ID and then Seska comes storming

in with a couple of armed pine cones and she catches him red handed with his spy shit. I was delighted at the sequence that follows here, the prison break of everything that happens. So like there's this little mini explosion that happens at the panel. And then Paris or Paris stuntman bounces over the bed in a really fun way. Like, I believe it was B. Dunx who does this because the stunt is basically hop up onto a bed with your butt and then bounce over the side of it and grab a phaser rifle. It's great. But the way that the combat unfolds and the chase through the hallway happens and then the escape into the shuttle works, it's so elliptical and fast that you don't stop

to think about how little you're seeing here. There's next to no detail about this prison escape at all that makes any sense. The ship is really small and has far fewer chains than the other K-Zon ships that we've been aboard. Yeah. And and this is mostly just like Paris rolling around on the floor of hallways trying to rip guns out of the hands of of K-Zons. Yeah. But he gets away and he is headed back to Voyager as fast as he possibly can. Meanwhile in engineering, Nelix is there again like it's fucking bring your tilaxi into work day, like just really getting in the way of everyone to work here. I think I definitely at some point got Jonas and Skullcogan confused in

in previous episodes and this scene where they're like working. We're sticking with Skullcogan, huh? Yeah. Yeah. I mean, unless you don't want to, if you have a better name, I don't, that's the thing. That's what's so irritating about this is that I can't do better than Skull Cogan.

What kind of co-host am I? If I can't do better than that, I'm a failure. And really brought in to relief for me like why I got them confused. Like they are very similar builds, similar haircut guys. And their phrases are not like super punchable, but they're punchable in the same way. I feel like.

But which is crazy because no one has a more punchable face than Nelix. Yeah. I mean, there's a total of two punchable faces in the scene. It's one Nelix and one half Jonas and one half Skullcogin. Yeah, so both Hogan and Jonas are like, look, kneelex, we're kind of fucking busy right now. And then at that moment, things get way busier when they've got a Tom Paris incoming.

Yeah, Skullcogin is out of the room and the bridge calls down asking for them to extend their Transporter range as much as possible by shunting Engine room power to the transporters, but it's just Jonas and Nielix in there Yeah, you can tell the work isn't happening because Jonas isn't grabbing a hose by the hose in order to Like things into different systems. Yeah, Nelix is like, hey, there's no hose stuff going on here. Yeah, Stu, that sounded pretty urgent, Jonas.

I'm going to lock the door. This one to me very careful, because I'm going to see this once. Do it. Meanwhile, in the shuttle, B-Dunks is doing that thing where he is just slamming himself into walls. Like the direction here is, you cannot go big enough

for the bangers getting dropped on you. And it looks like B-Dunks is having a great time selling it. Case on Ralph Nader's book has not yet hit bookshelves. And they haven't made seat belts standard in their shuttles just yet. Now, it looks dangerous. The bangers are so big that it's not even the exploding panels. It's just him getting knocked out of his chair and bonking his head on a bulkhead that...

Yeah. ...K.O.s be-dance. He's like the agitator inside a can of spray paint at this point. That is not the worst thing that's happened to him in a shuttle though recently also. Look, this is a cakewalk by comparison. That is not the worst thing that happened to him in a shuttle, though, recently also. Look, this is a cakewalk by comparison. Nielix is screaming at Jonas. Jonas is screaming back at Nielix. He puts up a force field in engineering to keep Nielix from leaving. What did you do that? That's pretty suspicious. I love that they're like five or six things that Jonas does here.

Like I feel like Nielix gets it, but he doesn't get it until the totality reaches a level where it is 1,000 percent clear. The meal is burning. Nielix, you need to take it off the stove. Jonas knocks Nielix out, grabs Neilix's combat and his combat and runs out of there. And Neilix like wakes up. I don't know why the we're gonna be monitoring

your combat continuously thing was even said because it plays no role in the rest of the episode. Like this is where they should have beamed enough security guys into the room that nobody could move. We cut to the super literal sonar operator in the closet going, you just told me to monitor. You didn't tell me to do anything with what I heard. You need to be more specific.

Yeah, but he looks like a pipe wrench in Coach Aftershowness. This is a pretty nice hand-to-hand combat sequence cutting from stuntman to star and back and forth. I really liked it. Yeah, that was good. I didn't know Nielix had this in him. He sort of flips Jonas over his shoulder

into the plasma fire in the background. Yeah. And RSVP Jonas. The scene blew me away because I think we see engineering from a bunch of angles that we've never seen it from. It's like one of those moments where you're like, I can't believe we're in season two and I'm seeing how cool this set is.

Yeah, well you're like a whole new way. Were you confused about like, what even is this open flame in the background? Like was that damage or was that a flame they have going all the time? It like opens up behind them, but they're up on the second level. So it's already an unfamiliar space that we're in. Right. And yeah, Jonas goes over the edge and he gets vaporized. He gets his hands from die hard moment. Like he slowly gets wanged over Nielix's shoulder

and then does that thing where he's like crawling in mid-air. Yeah. It's great. You be kind, motherfucker. I was gonna compare it to Sean Young in no way out when Gene Hackman pushes her over the railing. Listen, man, I am here for any and all Sean Young references. And so is Bill Tilly. You gotta believe that if there were like a giant plasma fire inside engineering at all times, what's Brad Dorif's character doing murdering crew people inside panels? Like, you should just be throwing people into this fire all the time.

I think it was like, it was like not there in one moment and then like during the fight, it like opened up. It seems very dangerous to have this thing around. It was like not there in one moment and then during the fight it opened up. It seems very dangerous to have this thing around. Yeah, what's under these floorboards, Jesus? I always subscribe to the plasma fire philosophy, which is like leave it more burned than when you found it. That's in all my relationships. Yeah, no kidding.

What's great is like, after Jonas dies, in walks two-vock, just in time for nothing. Where's the bad guy, Nelix? Funny thing about that. Yeah. I admire Nelix in this episode though, because he really has a case for Nelix saved the day. And yet he gives that glory to Paris when Paris is a guest on the Nelix saved the day. And yet he gives that glory to Paris

when Paris is a guest on the Neelix show. I like that generosity. It is a good Neelix episode in obvious ways, but also subtle ways like this. This is, and it's the button that does it. Paris on Neelix's morning show is that moment where you're like, good guy Neelix, good job. And Paris, Paris on his own isn't a glory hound here.

Like he tells the story like in a fairly neutral manner. He tells the story in a neutral manner and then turns to camera and like a tweet that is a screenshot of the Notes app apologizes to the crew for what an asshole he's been lately. I'd like to apologize to anyone that I might have offended. Paris, with a long-distance dedication apology to Chicote here who is like, look Chicote,

that may in fact be my child inside Cezca. You know what happens over there on that ship? Kind of a lot of a lot of com being thrown around in sesca's presence. The camera pulls back from Chico Tei watching this on a monitor and then pans down to his hand where he snaps a pencil. I knew what was happening and I and I loved it. I love it just the same. Joel did you love this episode Adam? I really did. I thought it was super fun. You know weird way. This is me at the end of every vacation Like two days before the end of vacation I start to feel sad that the vacation's coming to an end. Yeah. And in a related way now that the Jonah story is over, I'm like, shit.

I like, I kind of like the Jonah story. Like I wish we were still stretching that taffy out. Yeah. This felt like a, in like a relatively similar position, a thing that Star Trek Discovery does, which is an episode that resolves a huge amount of serial plot arc, gets thrown in like a couple episodes before the end of the season, and that's sort of what happened here. And I wonder what they are clearing the way for in resolving the Jonas storyline now. I mean, like, he's obviously not the end boss.

Sesca is the end boss of that storyline, and she's still in play. Right. But yeah, I thought it was a very interesting place in the season to put an episode like this, but it was a really strong episode, so that was all for it. I mean, a couple of hand-hand combat scenes, a pretty fun escape from a ship scene, the resolution to a story that's gone on for multiple episodes. Like, and, I mean, this is season two of Voyager. I feel like things are trending upward for the show.

I think it's feeling itself here in a good way. Absolutely. Well, do you want to feel around in the mailbag and see if we have any priority one messages? It's always consensual in the priority one message inbox bin. Priority one message from Starfleet coming in on Secured Channel. Need a supplement on it. A supplement on it?

A supplement. A supplement. Yes, extra. How do you interest alone? Could be enough to buy this ship! Adam, our first message is of a promotional nature, it goes like this, being a tech person who isn't neurotypical, can feel like being the only clinging on in Starfleet,

or former Borgs, trying to learn and adapt to life outside the collective. You want to do the things that are easy for others, but it feels impossible. Neurodiverse Tech is a slack community for neurodiverse folks with ADHD, bipolar, autism, etc. who work in tech. It's full of nice and supportive people sharing their successes and failures. Also, maybe Kevin or Kern can relate and have something to say.

I may be an O-Pero for being... Bitch. I am also an O-O-D.Britch. I am also an old. Which is why I- I just do not understand Slack at all. It is totally confounding to me. There's these channels and messages and DMs. Every time I open up Slack, I have 500 new notifications. There's something different about my brain.

I signed up for neurodiverse.tech hundred new notifications. There's something different about my brain. I signed up for neurodiverse.tech, and then I forgot my password. I need help remembering my password. This sounds great. Yeah, super cool. And definitely a resource that I imagine will be appealing to a lot of people.

So go to neurodiverse.tech and join a community of nice and supportive people who get it. Yeah, I mean, just that for everything. Like nice and supportive people who get it for everything is what I would like. Yeah, that would really rule. Thanks to Colin Donnell for getting that P1. We have a couple more here as well.

Ben, this next priority one message is from Farouche, and it is to Ben and Adam, and it goes like this. When times get rough, I often turn to the warm embrace of our friends on the entrepreneur. So glad that I found this pod to both appreciate and talk shit about Trek. Thanks for being awesome. I don't know when if I'll ever hear this since I haven't seen Voyager, but it would make my day if Kevin

re-read the message using only the word exocomp. A lot of Kevin love this episode. Do you want to take this one, Ben? Exocomp, Exocomp, Exocomp. Exocomp, Exocomp, Exocomp cap haven't seen voyager actual cap extra cap extra cap Kevin extra cap extra cap extra cap haha ah thanks for ruse and our last p1 is from your authentic meth-fueled space pilot and it is to my friends who are viewers and it goes like this. Hey friends, I know some of you are viewers. If you know who this is from, I

thought I'd tell the world and you that after some soul-searching, I prefer she slash her pronouns and the name is Diana. Much love. Wow, this is a big moment and this is a requested date of October 11th. I'm glad due to the significance of this message, we're nailing the date, Ben. I know, this is huge. Congratulations, Dayama. It's an awesome thing.

Wow, not a lot of detail here. Like, I hope this message gets sent to the right place, you know, given its significance, given it's significant, I mean. Yeah, I mean, Methfield space pilot does sound like a specific person. Right. Yeah, that does narrow it down, right? Yeah. Well, it's really awesome.

A great set of priority one messages across the board on today's episode. Nice set. If you'd like to get one on an upcoming episode, head to maximumfun.org slash JumboTron and sign up. Seeing a lot more messages have been claimed for 2022, but there's still plenty to go around. So if you want to get one in, now is the time to do it. Yeah, on either this show or the hit

new Star Trek podcast, Great do it. Yeah, on either this show or the hit new Star Trek podcast, great discovery. Yeah. You know, I'm really easy to get along with most of the time. But I don't like bullets, I don't like friends, and I don't like you. I love this. Hey, Anna. What's that, Ben? Did you find yourself a drunk Shimoda?

Drunk Shimoda! I mean, every time SESCA is in an episode, she is the alpha chaos agent, and she is in here stirring the fucking pot, like always. So it may be easy, it may be cheap Shimoda heat every time, but like Sesca is the Shimoda in this episode to me, because she's the one that made it all happen. This is true. My Shimoda in this episode episode is the doctor just because he seemed like he was having the most fun in this episode. Yeah. About his little to-do as a Ensign Kim or a Chico Te. Right. But at least he's not in the ball-kicking machine. Right. You got to be grateful for that.

And this is how the balls are safe. He could just set himself to pervious mode and it would go right through, right? Yep. Yeah, the hammer on the ball kicking machine would just spin on an axis. It would turn around and kick the machine. Yeah. What I would do. Yeah. That's what that machine deserves. Kick it right in the box full of quarters. Bust all those quarters out. Spill out onto the floor. Be great. Be great for everyone in the room.

People run like it's a casino. Love that. Wouldn't that be great? Oh, it'd rule. Well, Adam, I guess I better head over to Gach that biz-slash game at this point in the show and spin up our game of buttholes, the will of the caretaker.

What's the point anymore, Ben? We're always ever going to be on the second or third row. Yeah, we're stuck. I don't see any point to it. We stay stuck. Before I find out if we get off of the third row or pass this banger, let me tell you about season two, episode 21, Deadlock. A spacealy generates a duplicate Voyager and crew, but only one ship can survive an

assault by the Dean invaders. Yes. Give me this generic science fiction story, Ben. I love this shit. I'm gonna love this episode, right? Uh, yeah, I mean, it sounds fun. Hell yeah. That's fun as hell.

Alright, we are on square 22. A couple of squares ahead is that fucking banger. And I think we could also hit the naked now bathtub episode. Oh Jesus, don't want that. You're required to learn as you play. Roll. So I'm gonna go and roll this bone. Chula!

Did I win? And I'm gonna roll the three! We made it past the banger! Wow. Regular episode next week. But an unbanged shuttlecraft or runabout I guess it is Wow, there are like three people in our entire viewership who bet the over Caching tickets right now. Mm-hmm. Geez. Yeah, that's a the casino mega out of business

Which is not a slam on Michigan. Yeah. What? Oh, you saw that message. Yeah, someone, this happens a lot on the show, I feel like, is people feel like we're talking about them or where they're from or something personal when we're very, like, we're not. But I think it's a natural instinct to whenever you're consuming a thing to feel like it's centered on you I guess but this person was like why do you keep dunking on michigan every time you talk about casino is going out of business like it's only happened twice or something yeah like Detroit's Detroit's great guys like Detroit's really trying and I was like, we love Detroit and we love playing Michigan. And also we have never said specifically what we're talking about. We're clearly talking about Atlantic City. Yeah. And an idiot business owner. So chill. Wow. Well, I'm looking forward to next week's

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That's what you've wanted all along, it's two bends on the show. I know how you think. Good happen. Just a really great show by you, Ben. Oh, good show by you too, buddy. Just a massive comedy effort on your end. Really bringing it. What I wanted to feel like is an effort. Make it sound. Make it sound. Make it sound. Make it sound.

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