The Greatest Generation - The Bayless Connection (S1E11)

Episode Date: February 29, 2016

When Wyatt (the guy from the music video for "Take On Me") beams aboard the Enterprise to marry Counselor Troi, Commander Riker realizes that he won't "be gone in a day," and it really puts him in a foul mood. It doesn't help that Troi's mother is getting into people's heads, and the combination of Wyatt's creepy Glamour Shots-style drawings and the arrival of an alien ship mean that the wedding plans are off the rails in a hurry. What is "80's hot" anyway? Does big hair qualify as formal attire? Can Troi's mom see inside Riker's head, and does she want to? It's the most 80's episode yet, and we're forced to review it!

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If I veto this, we could get an even worse episode after. Mmm, that's a good point. Oh, God, I just hate Troy's mom episodes. Yeah, I mean, like, they clearly know that she's annoying because every time she comes on after this, like, the characters roll their eyes and try to make excuses to not be there or whatever I'm a fucking man. I'm an avito. Oh really? I don't want it. I don't want it. Yeah I think I think Adam just because I'm a diabolical asshole. I'm going to

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This episode we're talking about is Haven, the intro to Councillor Troy's mother, Waxana Troy. I think I took the most notes on this episode than any of them. There was a ton to digest. Yeah, there's a lot going on in this episode. Should we just get right into it? If we have to. The episode starts out with the Enterprise arriving at a planet called Haven, where Councillor Troy has been summoned by her mother, Lauxana, and the episode begins with Riker in his room enjoying some holographic harp babes playing some harp music. Sorry ladies. Beautiful.

Did you notice that there are many babes though? They're like desktop babes. Yeah, yeah, like 24 inch babes. They also clearly want to fuck him. Yeah, they're definitely making real like bedroom eyes at him. And he is looking very blissed out watching this pretty mediocre, not especially noteworthy heart playing. He gets called away to the transport room

and in the transport room, a Mardi Gras head gets beamed into the, but it's kinda weird, because Yarr is like, there's some object getting beamed up from the surface, and they're like, all right, well, we don't know anything about it or what it is, but go ahead and allow it to be on the ship,

and then it's this. More great enterprise security protocols in action. Right, come on Yarr, get it together. And they beam up Jambi from Peewee's Playhouse. Yeah, it's totally Jambi. It's like a it's like a weird silver box with a silver face on it and it's like an inert silver face but then they cut away and they cut back and it's a man's face like in rubber. And he's like mechalekahai mechalekahai happily announcing the impending marriage uh... that's to take place and then

he like goes goes back to being dormant and pops open and a bunch of the kinds of beads that you get for showing your boobs at marty gruff pop out yeah and tasha yars seems really stoked on those beads for a future that doesn't have an economy that we recognize that doesn't give any sort of worth to the idea of jewels. She is. And for jewels that are very explicitly made out of cheap plastic. Yeah. She is pumped. is pumped. So we come to find out that Troy has had a previously pre-arranged marriage to a human doctor named Wyatt Miller. Isn't Wyatt Miller the name of one of the kids in Weird Science? Am I wrong about that? I don't know. I don't know that movie as well as I probably should given this nerdy podcast. His parents tracked down

her mother to enforce this arranged marriage, which is like, so, you know, that we can talk about that, the idea that an advanced space-faring culture that's achieved membership in the Federation was still bind its citizens to something as horrible sounding to me as an arranged marriage, but maybe that's just my own cultural bias, I don't know. Yeah, you do sound very biased and privileged, actually. I got to check both of those things. Yeah. Check those and Mr. Homs giant suitcase that you can talk with.

Yeah, it is weird that he's a human though, right? Like that they're part of this tradition. I mean, as much as she is. Yeah, I think that's weird because you would assume in Betasoid culture that like the arrangement would be with another Betasoid. Yeah. And if you're not gonna be Betasoid,

you're gonna be riker. Right, right. Exactly. And so beta-zoids are a species that can, they have telepathic powers, and troids are somewhat limited because she's only half beta-zoid. But after Wyatt and his crazy parents beam up and kind of are chuged out of the Transportor room, walks on a Troy and her man servant, Mr. Ham beam up and she starts talking to Deanna Troy in Mindspeak. So so there's a lot of extended scenes where mind speak. So there's a lot of extended scenes where Loxana will be looking suggestively at somebody and beaming her thoughts into their head.

And a lot of scenes where people are just making faces at each other. Yeah, and they do this, this like the kind of echoey sound effect on all those voices that they would do in like a full house episode when a character was thinking something to themselves. So Mr. Humb is also, you might recognize him as a lurch from the Adam's family. Yeah, I guess he's probably painted the same gray as he is, Adam's family actually. Oh yeah. That's interesting.

Maybe he just like walked over from the other side of the studio a lot. It could be canonical Adam's family also. Yeah, yeah. This guy is so tall. He's like, unless everybody that is in the main cast is super short, he's just like one of these crazy people that you can't even believe exists. He's just like one of these crazy people that you can't even believe exists. He's so tall.

He's so tall that when he beams up, he's beamed up sitting on the big suitcase. Yeah. Because when he stands up to full height, his head rocks the ceiling of the transporter. So he's a pretty silent dude. He doesn't do a lot of talking. Laxana beams up and immediately ropes Captain Picard into carrying her luggage, which we hilariously find out is super duper heavy. You know, anytime you get to make a joke about a woman's size or quantity of luggage,

you just have to do it, right? It's one of the bylaws of Hollywood. God, women, as Wesley said, in the last episode. She has a princess in space balls level luggage issues. Oh, yeah. Yeah. So, you know, Riker is pretty upset for most of this episode. There's a pretty epic scene where they're kind of discussing what's about to go down

in the captain's ready room and the captain walks out leaving Troy and Riker in there. And Riker just like walks over to a wall and puts an arm against it and just puts a real lean into it. It just really puts a moppy pose on. Like elbow fully locked, ass fully shoved out, completely dramatic. It's like, dude, you have slept with this woman. You know she can read your thoughts. You don't need to use the most explicit body language available to you to transmit what you're feeling about this. Also, dude had his chance. Dude had many chances. Yep. What's he so pissed off

about? Yeah, it's kind of a weird and possessive given the fact that they are not officially together. I think the part that's worse than the idea of him missing out on being with Troy forever might be that his replacement is Wyatt, who is like peak 80s. He is incredibly 80s looking. I'm just going to save this to the end, but I think I might just inject it now to see if we can kind of call out these moments as they go. I feel like all of the styling when it comes to Wyatt and the aliens that we meet eventually in this episode has a lot to do with the music video for the Ah-Ha song. Yes, yes, I also

wrote that down. Take the take on me universe. This may be taking place in the take on me universe. This is canonical take on me. So up on the bridge, we find out that there is an unmarked vessel approaching Haven, and the lady that runs the planet down below radios up to say that it's going to be on the enterprise to run interference on this vessel. Should its intentions turn hostile and they keep trying to reach out to this ship and are unsuccessful. Meanwhile, Troy is getting to know her future husband a little bit better.

And it turns out that he was real surprised to meet her because he was convinced that it was going to be this woman of his dreams. He's been dreaming about this babelicious 80s blonde lady for his entire life and drawing take on me music video style pencil sketches of her his entire life. Troy seems really cool with it though. Like if you were to tell your potential life, you're great in everything, but God, what I'm dreaming about actually is Kelly Lynch from Roadhouse. That's not going to go over well. And Troy's like, oh, I understand, but maybe, you know, in time, we'll love each other. Yeah, which is like at its best how arranged

marriages work, but it's got to be a tough pill to swallow that like basically the main thing that your future has been once to talk about at all is bootylicious Southern California beach babe crush. Yeah, she's straight out of the hot for teacher van Halen video. And so he drops this bomb on Troy and they manage to get past it, so Wyatt very dramatically like picks up all the glamour shots pictures that he's drawn and displayed on his table. And then like hugs them close to his body and walks away. I don't think that's over. Yeah, he's still holding a candle to this imaginary person.

It is a tiny friend who always thought we'd be faced. Are you not finding within yourself to stand up, tell the truth? You don't deserve to wear that uniform. So, as the ship comes closer, it's traveling at sublight speed, so they have like hours and hours and hours of notice before it gets to the planet. They finally get it up on a long-range monitor and they identify it as a terrelian ship. They couldn't just stick Jordy in one of the front cabins to see this would come in. They had to wait. It's a good point. Yeah. If you could have

just gone down to 10 forward and stared out the window. Yeah, the Torellians are a species that, you know, there were two factions and they went to war and one of them used a biological weapon on the others and they wiped themselves out more or less and there were refugees trying to travel around and and it was just kind of a kind of a real shit show for their species because people didn't want to receive the refugees because they had this engineered super virus that would kill them. So a lot of refugee ships got destroyed and ones that didn't get destroyed wound up having everybody on board die of the virus. So this is probably as far as anybody can tell,

the last members of the Tarellian race. And the planet super freaked out because they don't want to get the virus. Right, and this ship is still not responding to any hails. And the planet radio is up to say, like, if this thing gets within transport or range, we're basically all fucked down here. So you need to step it up and do something enterprise.

They're a little bit busy with the rehearsal dinner right now. Right. There is an extended scene in this episode, where the parents of Wyatt and Waxana Troi like stand around a buffet table, bickering about what species traditions will be observed in this wedding. And then that transitions into a dinner scene where people are bickering and squabbling about all the different issues that arise surrounding two families coming together. All

the while, Mr. Haam is in the background downing drinks by the bucketful and hitting a gong every time he finishes one. He is totally raging. Yeah, he's in it to win it. And data is standing right next to him, just like gleefully watching all of the bullshit, transpire, you know, you can tell that from an anthropological standpoint, this is as good as it gets for

data. In fact, at one point Troy gets completely pissed off and runs out of the room yelling that everybody needs to stop the petty squabbling and data. Leanne's in and says, please continue the petty squabbling. I find it fascinating. Riker bolts just before that, though, speaking of being petty. Petty and Prowdy. He's been a huge baby about the whole thing.

Like, he does that thing where he lifts a fork up to his mouth and then sets it back down. He just can't even be bothered to eat. He's so distraught. Yeah, he's reacting to this the same way. I would react to the episodes of Fear Factor, where somebody would have to eat like a bull penis on camera. Oddly enough, Raker does not have an appetite

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Oh no Ross and Kerry, available on MaximumFun.org. Yeah, and he files a, fires up a surprisingly non-pornographic holiday program. It's just a rock in a, in a desert planet where he's sitting and pouting to himself. And I think it's interesting that you know they block the scene Rikers on the rock Staring at a tree not doing anything and

Troy enters from screen right as if like she hasn't even knocked She walks into frame that is a pretty big role of the dice. Yeah, agreed. I mean, unless you're wearing head to toe raincoat. Yeah, one of those hazmat suits, they were an outbreak. Yeah, she really took a lot of things into her own hands at that moment. Let's be honest.

Troy has had every fluid on her that Riker can produce. Yeah. Oh yeah, All manner of Riker fluids and then all virtual fluids as produced on that holiday program. You know what, might look really benign to us, but I think if you turn over that rock that Riker is sitting on, it's probably one of those pieces of sex furniture. Like, like that wedge-shaped sex furniture, and there's some handcuffs buried under the tree, very thinly disguised, SNM, a kuturmall in this scene. Yeah. You know what else I realize?

It's probably just the same exact set that Q had them facing the animal things, but just with a different color, psych rolled in. Absolutely. Yeah, that's what it looked like completely. Or different gels on the lights anyways. Yeah. So Troy walks in and it's trying to tell Riker, you know, I still want you to be a part of my life.

I got to go through with this and Riker's like whatever, whatever, and then leaves because Wyatt has walked in. Right. Also without knocking. Yeah, which, I mean, you would hope that somebody leaves because why it has walked in. Also without knocking. Yeah, which I mean, you would hope that somebody would like throw themself across the front door of the holodeck if they know that Troy and Reiker are in there together.

It's sort of like college dorm rules. If you go up to the holodeck and there is a sock on... One of Reiker's gym socks. Yeah, one of Reiker's's socks on the door handle, then come back later. Yeah. Same thing for Wharf, but for different reasons, you know. You don't wanna open that door and have a batlet fly

at your head. Yeah, it's just a pilot gawk on the doorway. Yeah, yeah, just smeared right right on that door. So Wyatt walks in and Wyatt and Troy have the first kiss, which is real innocent, like they barely touch at all. Yeah, you can tell that Wyatt is, his heart really isn't in it, you know? Yeah.

He's trying to be game for this, but he's pining away for this hair metal lady. And if Troy can read his mind, what are you doing, Deanna? Yeah, she knows what's up. Yeah, I think she can see the end game. There is a funny moment in the rehearsal dinner scene where Wyatt first meets Riker and he says, oh. You're the one who wants to be a starship captain.

Yes, I've heard that bonding or marriage would complicate things in that case. Do each of them. Good luck with that ambition. Right. And Riker looks at Troy like, like, don't tell people that. Like sort of the same way I look at my wife when she tells people in public that I have a Star Trek podcast. That is exactly right. Here's the piece of shameful trivia I know about you. Yeah, when Wyatt and Troy kiss, it does wind up being a very chased kiss, but based on the way the camera angle is set up, it looks like he's going for a boob for like the first half second of it. And I got, I was like on the edge of the sofa when I saw that about to happen.

Like, it's, he goes as close to going for a boob as it's possible to go on TV without the sensors flipping out, I think. You know on the Super Bowl, how they can stop a play and just sort of bullet time the camera around from a different angle? They have that technology on the enterprise, too.

This will come to fine. If you're able to like forensically move the camera around to see how much room is between his hand and Troy's boob, I think it is microscopic. Like there's it looks like there's a graze at least. Yeah, I mean I think she's into it, you know. I think she'd be okay with that. I don't know. I feel like that's an actor taking the produce and it's wrong. Alright. So this ship shows up in orbit. It's still not responding to hills and the Enterprise throws a tractor beam on it, which disables the terrellion ship's ability to use their transporters as well. And knowing that the plight of the terrellion, this is why it is a medical doctor, has been

collaborating with the ship's doctor the whole time on a set of medical supplies that they will beam over to the Torrellians when they arrive as a sort of humanitarian gesture. But when they engage this tractor beam, the Torrellians appear on screen in a video effect that can only be described as stealing porn off cable in the 80s. And it is revealed that why it's dream woman is on the bridge of the Turellion ship. So he's pretty taken with this and he tells Dr. Crusher that he's going to go transport the supplies, but he uses a hyposprate to disable the weird transporter chief guy. And- Yeah, he has a strangely deep voice.

A surface station approval coming in now, the town. All right. He does. He doesn't look like his voice, you know? Yeah, he kind of looks like some weird guy that you would meet in the dorm room of your college or something. And then he opens his voice and he sounds like he could be

like, you know, back up vocals in a barbershop quartet. Yeah, he's like the bass guy and boys to man. Yeah. Like he just doesn't look like he'd ever voice that deep. So he beams himself over thus exposing himself to the Tarellian virus, which means that he can never beam back. And why its parents flip out and demand that Picard bring him back, but Picard is like, there's nothing I can do.

And it turns out that this Tarellian Fox has been dreaming about why at the entire time also. She's 80s Foxy, right? So she's got permanently wet looking crimped hair. She's got kind of a tube top type of deal on with a very, like a lot of muscle tone in her abs and arms. Yeah, it does a lot of sit-ups for sure.

Yeah, the outfits that the women on this ship wear is sort of the slutty version of what a uniform where sort of the slutty version of what a uniform at a Mexican family, canteen-a-style restaurant might be for women. Did you find the relationship between Wyatt's dream girl and Wyatt's dream girl's dad? A little bit weird. He seemed really affectionate to her,

sort of like in a creepy way. The way Rick Bayless is creepily affectionate to her, sort of like in a creepy way. The way Rick Bayless is creepily affectionate to his daughter on a series of cooking shows. He totally Bayless is her. You know, I didn't make the Bayless connection, but now that you bring it up, that's a thousand percent there for me. Yeah. Yeah, where you're like, you know, I'm down with a father and a daughter being affectionate, but this is not the kind of affection that you put out there

in the public for the world to see. In their first communication with the enterprise, the dad's like, hey, we're the last of the Terrellians. There's only eight of us, and this is my daughter, and he puts his arm around her, and there's only eight of us, and this is my daughter, and he puts his arm around her, and there's like two full beats of just dad hugging daughter. I don't know. I think he's got some more competition over there. Ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha why she's been dreaming about him the entire time. Also, although unclear whether

Torrellians have some kind of telepathic ability or not, I don't know. Did she draw all those take on me pictures? When Wyatt beams over, there's like a fall of Franklin Mint plates where pictures of him through the years have been drawn from a little kid all the way up until peak 80s hair, why it? It's just a shame that there wasn't a picture of him holding up a pipe wrench. Like the end of the take on me video.

Oh man, that is some collectible merch that I wish I had a chance to buy. One of those take on me pictures would be hilarious. Yeah, that would be some fan out there has that. And I am really envious. Yeah, throw that up on eBay and give us a heads up. That's sort of the end of the episode. The the Terrellians promise not to attempt to beam down to the planet. And why it says that he's going to use

his skills of a medical doctor to attempt to cure the tyrellians of their virus and so precarred orders the tractor beam to be dropped and the tyrellians head out. They just sort of put away the slowest possible speed. Yeah, they don't get any help with their, with their warp engines, I guess. So what's the deal? Like, are they just going to repopulate themselves on board that ship? I don't understand really what the end game is. It's unclear whether or not why it can cure them. I've read a lot of science fiction that I believe has some, some good that I believe has some good basis in actual scientific research. And I suspect that eight people now nine is not really enough to repopulate a species safely with, you know,

you just don't have a deep enough gene pool to avoid congenital issues. Well, clearly watching the attraction between father and daughter, they've been cooped up on that ship a long time. Right. Also, like, they've been traveling for years, so what is this virus and how deadly is it? It doesn't seem that deadly, to be honest. Everyone seems in pretty good health. They're not like sick. They're just like doing sex poses the entire time.

The inside of their ship looks like an 80s video arcade. Did you notice that? It looks like if you put the take on me video in technical or, you know, like all of those drawings could be inside that ship. We've seen a lot of 80s stuff happen in the series up until now. This might be the peak 80s episode of the ones that we've seen. Yeah. Of the ones that we've seen. Yeah. Of the ones that we've seen, I can think of some stuff coming up that's pretty,

pretty outrageous, but, uh, Oh, good. And we have to watch them because we have no more videos. Well, for this season, well, we have like 40 more episodes until we get to season two. I'm in hell right now. This is not the worst locks on a Troy episode. Sure. I'm ready to believe that.

I mean, she's like Q, right? She shows up about once a season. And... She makes some flip comments about Picard, wanting to do Steph tour. She makes some comments about why it's dad, wanting to mess around with her. She's got this idea that people are really attracted to her big time, but she doesn't crawl into

Riker's head at all. I think that's because Troy set up a rule about that. What do you think? That's possible to make. Off limits, you cannot get into that guy's head. Yeah, maybe, I mean, we don't really know like what all went down between Riker and Troy before they were both stationed on the enterprise, but it seems like possible that Loxana would have met Riker at some point. Yeah, but the one thing you don't want to see if your mother is like an anything goes relationship that your daughter's involved in, like in stunning detail. Yeah, Loxana is a full telepath, so she probably knows some of the shit that's going through Riker's head. Maybe she's just scared of him.

Wouldn't you be? On a slightly more serious note, I do think that this episode has like a, like one thing that I think is actually not totally unsophisticated, which is its treatment of Troy and her mother's conversations surrounding tradition and the wedding. Like I think that the women I've known that have gotten married have all like to a greater or lesser extent felt like there were cultural obligations, traditional obligations that they needed to fulfill to kind of keep their mothers happy. And that's like a really interesting tension that, I don't know that there's that many like sci-fi shows that will make something like that

be the centerpiece of conflict in an episode. So I thought that that was cool. Like I think that anybody that's ever, you know, tried to deal with like what kind of a wedding they're gonna have and how traditional is it gonna be can kind of relate to. And I thought that was kind of a wedding they're gonna have and how traditional is it gonna be Can can kind of relate to and I thought that was kind of cool not to be media bringing up media But I just saw a documentary called Meet the Patels have you seen that I've heard good things Yeah, it's really good and I would recommend it to anyone

But it is about the idea of arranged marriage versus, quote unquote, regular old marriage. And I think the conflicts that kids have with their parents regarding that is just sort of a fascinating dynamic. And you do get some of that in this episode. And it is, as you say, the best part of it, it's the most real feeling. It's hard to wrap your head around it being an issue in the 24th century, but I guess that's just because I come from a culture that doesn't even consider that as a possibility. I thought it was weird just how accepting everyone was at the idea. I mean safe for Riker, but cards like, all right, see you later. Like, congratulations or whatever. I especially pick card. Yeah, it or whatever. I especially Picard.

Yeah, it looks like Troy is going to not be a member of the crew after this episode if this wedding pops off. And she has the look of someone who is ready to cry. Like in the next moment, and Picard is sort of oblivious to that idea. It's not really his place to be, you know, comforting her if she feels obliged to do this. I think he's clearly still in the state of comforting Tasha Yara. Tasha Yara does her hair up for the celebration meal. I was hoping you'd bring this up.

It might be the greatest thing that's ever happened to Tasha Yara's hair. It's basically, she has a pretty short haircut and she goes, she goes as big as she possibly can with this hair. And it's delightful. You know, when you drive by like any major city has like 10,000 nail salons in it. And there's the, there's this sort of take on me style painting of a woman just a random woman. And then the word nails underneath.

That's what Yara looks like. And that's the only thing that she changed about herself for this formal dinner. Amazing. That's the only thing I think anyone changed about themselves for this dinner. I mean she got so much volume out of her pretty short haircut though. Fucking super impressive. Yeah. Good job, I heard. Good job. Hey, Ben. What's that, Adam? Who is your drunk Shimoda? Drunk Shimoda!

I think it's pretty definitively Mr. Ham, the man servant to lock on a Troy. He's just super duper drunk. He doesn't say anything throughout the episode. And then as they're preparing to beam off the ship, he turns to Captain Picard and says, Thank you for the drinks. And it's a big surprise that Mr. Ham can speak at all because he hasn't said anything to anyone. Yeah, that was our cue ending to the episode. I agree. I think this is the first time we've had a tie.

It is, it could be no one else besides Mr. Ham. A tie? It's not a competition at him. it could be no one else besides Mr. Homb. A tie, it's not a competition at them. Well, it's the first time that we nominated the same person in the same episode. Yeah. That's what I mean. I think that we should just say for anybody

new to the show, which I imagine is most of you because anybody that's listened to one episode is probably turned it off and discussed. One in done. Drunk Shemota is our running assessment of who the most ridiculous character in a given episode is. And if you want an explanation of that, go back to episode two, Drunk Shemota. Right. That is also the episode where I mispronounce his name as Shenota about 10 times. So that's some fun trivia.

That's some behind the podcast for you. Oh yeah, really breaking down that fourth pod wall. Well, what do we have up next, Ben? So the next episode is called The Big Good Buy. When Holodex malfunction, the Captain and three crew members become trapped in San Francisco, 1941, where they're held hostage by murderous gangsters. So this is the first, I think Captain Picard goes back to this San Francisco private eye character.

It's like kind of a hard boiled detective story that he likes to fake Kate in and surprise surprise the holodex malfunction. Interesting bit of reception to this episode is that it was nominated for two Emmys and actually won a P-body. I didn't, I mean, I don't know what the P-body award is for. I'm imagining it's for achievement in cheesy television. Hahaha. Because the reason I say that is because I just remember any episode where they dress up, you know, in period costume as being sort of unintentionally cringey.

I don't remember too much about this one, but I'm excited to watch it. And we don't have a choice because we don't have any vetoes left. Thanks for that, Ben. Just out of curiosity, would you have attempted to invoke a veto? Yes. You would have. Really? No doubt.

Wow. Are you just going to say that every time I ask for the rest of the season? Would you have attempted to reverse my veto? It's pretty fun I've learned to reverse your veto, so maybe yes. Thanks for that. That's about all the time we have for this episode anyway. As always, I've been Adam Pranica and I have been embarrassed. I've been Ben Harrison and I too have felt sincere shame. See you next time.

Thank you, thank you so much. Thank you so much. Make it sound you