The Greatest Generation - The Bell Curve of Mountain to Armus (S6E15)

Episode Date: May 29, 2017

When Captain Picard spills an awful lot of pasta sauce on the front of his uniform, the all-powerful Q gives him an opportunity to make out with his hot friend from college. Now he has to play a round of Would You Rather where the choice is a sword to the heart or having a boring joe job. Does Wolf 359 go in the Picard column or the Q column? Why all the impalements? What does Predator Hair Metal sound like? How can Marta be so comfortable as the last clapper? It’s the episode that needs a universal translator for the word ‘embarrassment.’

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I'm Adam Pranica. I'm Benjamin R. Harrison. Two of the best in the business right there. Yeah. I mean, nobody at a paramount for CBS or whatever loves us, but Hey Adam, I got a big old box here. It says care of Jim Shimoda You got male you've got male. Yeah, it's from listener William in in Irmo, South Carolina Why don't you open up that big box?

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I did. I did get a PO box for the greatest generation. So I'm thinking I might... I'm not a stock atom. It's very hard now. I'm still very stockable. Yeah, it seems that way. You're willing to be stocked. Whatever colored handkerchief is the stocking handkerchief you put in your back pocket. That's the one you're wearing around town. Alright, what do we got here?

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company over. Oh man, this is cool. So it's like a kind of a cardboard box, but you open it up and it's like it's like Blueprint-style maps of the inside of the ship. Really like deck by deck stuff. Yeah, exactly. And are they Blueprint-size? Like like fold them out on a dining room table size? Yeah, they are fold them out on a dining room table size. Wow. This is cool.

And they really, they really went deep with some of the merch for this show. Yeah. What is our equivalent of this? Like what weird merch item could we come up with that is as like inside baseball as charts of the interior of the entrepreneur? Man, I think the most the most inscrutable merch item is probably the scarf and we didn't even do it.

Yeah. I mean everything else has been pretty like listener. I read it Yeah Yeah, but like shirts and glasses seem like a merch item that if you do a thing That is a natural extension of right what you can offer people are you saying are you proposing that we do something a little weird? I love the idea of doing something a little weird. I mean this is that we do something a little weird? I love the idea of doing something a little weird. I mean, this one has two problems, I think. One is that there are so many of them that you couldn't,

you couldn't really like hang them up unless you were like really committing to something. Yeah. And to your, it's got your classic folding the mapback problem, where you get one unfolded and it is super challenging to figure out which, which, you know, way you're supposed to fold it back up to put it away nicely. Yeah, yeah. That said, I love how specific it is. Did you find the dolphin paddock? Oh, man. How specific it is. Did you find the dolphin paddock?

Oh man. That's supposed to be a thing in those blueprints. Folks, we're talking about that, weren't they? Yeah. What's it called? It's called the Citation Studies. Yeah. Man, I don't know. There's, there are literally,

there might be 10 blueprints in here. So it would be, wow. It'd be a lot of work to go through them. You could really wallpaper your office with that. Yeah, you really could. Let's do that and see if the wife notices. It might be more than 10, we got. Wow. 12, 13, lucky 13.

What a cool and kind gift. Yeah, thank you. I can't wait to nerd out over these later. Well, if you have something that's been squirreled away in your closet or office space to keep you from being embarrassed by your friends and co-workers and you'd like to send it in, you can email drunkshamotagmail.com where either Ben will give you his real address or I will give you the greatest generations PO box address.

I don't think it's always exchange one or two emails with the person before I give up the deets just to make sure that they can hold their story together. To make sure you're not being catfished? Yeah. Wow. Well, I trust your judgment more than mine, I guess. I'm speaking of things that you could hang up on a wall. Tapestries are a thing you could hang up on a wall.

It's true. It's one of those episodes where they say the name of the episode in the episode. Yeah. It's a... Season 6, episode 15. Tapestry! First, you hear every starpeer, officer, pitch to the truth, find the truth, or a I'm gonna go through this. Now Adam, we discussed a bit on the last show that our feelings on this episode are not exactly mutual. Yeah, not simpatico, are they?

Did your rewatch change your assessment at all? Cause you were claiming high mountain to Apex status for this episode going in. Yeah, I was claiming Apex mountain, the George Washington position in my mount, Nuckmore or whatever. But yeah, I like it no less after the rewatch. What about you? You were pretty meh. pretty me Now it was coming I remain me I How dare you I stand by this being a vetoable episode. Oh God and I don't want to talk you out of liking it, but You wouldn't I do want to I do I do want to have that

acknowledged going in. We start on a kind of emergency six bay scene where they do the beam directly to six bay with Captain Picard, who has spilled a good deal of pasta sauce on his shirt and another like a yellow shirt who's also in pretty rough shape. Worf has Captain Picard in the like carrying the bride across the threshold hold.

Sort of amazing to see him like that. Did you and your wife do that when you got your house? Yes, we did do that. I don't know. Did you and your wife do that when you got your house? Yes. We did do that. I was trying to remember exactly because I remember there being some equivocation at the time. Like, I wanted to do that and my wife was like,

eh, that's cheesy. I was like, come on, we've got one shot at this. Let's do it. And so I think she didn't want to, but she did. She did it for my benefit. That's sweet. Yeah, I didn't even bonk her head against the door or anything. Well, there's something very patriarchy-ish about it, but I feel like there's a way to do it ironically that doesn't suck. That was fully my flavor on the whole thing. And it was also just the idea of like you have one chance to do this before that moment is gone. And even if it's cheesy and dumb, like

I'm willing to do that thing, whatever that is. Yeah. To seize that moment. Yeah. Carpe momentum. This is sort of a theme to the episode too. Picard is on what appears to be an extra large biobad, like the California biobad. Right? His scale to the bed seems so different than any other person who's ever been in Six Bay before I thought. How big is Patrick Stewart? Is he a miniman the way a lot of famous actors are? I don't know, because I feel like we've seen Picard-sized people on biopads before, and it... it's sort of like just a... a chalk outline of a bed. It... it's... maybe... maybe a foot larger than a human figure.

But this... this giant giant sized biopid, he could roll over three times and stay on it. 12 yard long, two length wide, 65 tons of American pride, can you narrow? I have a king size bed in my house, and my feet go right to the edge of it. I've never had a bed where my feet like stay comfortably on it.

I am a foot outside the bed sleeper. I my feet are always out. He took it out. Yeah, I would I would prefer that configuration, you know, speaking of of domestic things, I was banned from getting a king size bed. Ben, I try to help you. I tried to help you in this. I think my wife tried to help you too. Yeah. Yeah. You are two people who can appreciate the extra real estate of a bed. I was like, why is my wife trained to tell Adam to get a bigger bed. It's that about. And I was like, why wouldn't she tell me about her preferences in bed?

Yep. Anyway, my wife was like, you will have no escape. I will not even give you the impression that there is one. Yeah. You're stuck. Yeah. You're stuck. Yeah. That's the thing. I think, I think some people want,

want coupled sleeping to be about snuggling. Other people want to be left alone. Other people want to be so far away that they're feet and maybe their entire lower body to be out of the covers. Yeah. So Beverly is going through what in a contemporary medical parlance would be extraordinary measures. If Picard had signed a do not resuscitate order, I think the medicine might have stopped at some point here. She's really going through a lot to keep them going She's got the forehead things on him. Yeah, she's zapping them with the forehead things

She's she's scoping the inside of him and his artificial heart is Is not helping the situation. It's all fused and sparky I'm used to sparking. Doctor, his heart stopped! Let's get it all there! We need to zap this quick! Everybody! Everybody! Who's making a potato?

At no point do they take the like, the shears out and cut the shirt off of him. Which I thought would have been a smart move given the fact that he obviously has a huge chest wound. Yeah. That's a level of makeup maybe they were unwilling or did not have the budget to do. What is a deep chest wound takes a lot?

This is a ray that he's been hit with that does not damage fabric at all, but damages the flesh underneath that fabric. Oh, is that the idea? I thought the fabric looked pretty scorched. Well, it's melty. It's not melty. It's got blood coming through it. Oh, that's all. Well, it's melty. It's not melty. It's got it's got blood coming through it. Oh, that's all. I think that's it. I mean, it really looks like

he was having some pesquetti and meatballs and made a big mess on himself. Mom Spaghetti. Yeah. The we get so little of the story about how this happened. Yeah. They were like outside of a conference room. The, we get so little of the story about how this happened. Yeah. They were like outside of a conference room. The most dangerous place in the universe. Yeah, no kidding. Like, I think they really need to rethink

this whole conference thing. Mm-hmm. If you're conference bad, you should. They're all wearin' dustbusters too, so I think they knew the risk. Yeah. I feel like if your conference badge came with body armor, that might be a prudent step for the

betteration to take. Is action jacket phaser proof? Because that might have been a better piece of gear to wear down there in a potentially hostile environment. Yeah, I mean, he was wearing it on that Darmak planet. I know. Not knife proof. Well, he wakes up in the matrix.

And like, it's the push into face of we're losing the patient. Yeah. And like they, you know, they open the aperture on the lens so that it starts to overexpose. And then, you know, like he turns around and he's in the on the white seamless stage. And they're overexposed in front of him is John Delancey in the role of Morgan Freeman. This was a piece of production that I thought a lot about. How they overexposed this scene, keeping John Delancey so hot while keeping Picard in standard

exposure. Yeah. He must have been lit super hard. Yeah. It's definitely like the lighting and not they didn't like go in and post because he steps out of it at a certain point You can see it you can see the the umbra of that extra hot light Move off of his move on to his face and he explains to the card that he's in the afterlife Welcome to the afterlife, Sean Luke. Pipes seems pretty horrified at his circumstances, because he goes so far as to reach out to the figure that before he knows that it's Q, he's starting to put together that he's in some sort of

afterlife scenario and he reaches for him and like recoils when Q shows himself. Not a good moment. No, it's the Picard Eyes to theme. Yeah, and the Picard Eyes happens after John Delante delivers one of the great... You're dead. Lines of dialogue. You really get some gravel in that.

Yeah, it's fun. Yeah. So we come back and we're still in the matrix and a couple of racks full of guns comes in from the far distance. Lots of guns. in from the far distance. Lots of guns. And they strap up. What if I told you, I'm God.

Q starts kind of making the case that Picard has died and that he's gonna spend eternity here with Q. Econjers Picard's father who has about three lines, all about Picard being a big disappointment. You call yourself my son, but I just don't see it. Yeah, pop up Picard, kind of a dick, right? Yeah. Nothing's ever good enough for him.

No. That's a very common, like, I feel like that is like the sine qua non of daddy issues in film and television is nothing is ever satisfying for daddy. Yeah, yeah, the Paul of parental expectations. Do we ever get to know Picard's mom? Ever? Hmm. I wonder what ever happened to her. I mean, we know about his aunt who has the sleeping milk. I wonder what his mom is like. Yeah.

I don't know. I don't have any personal experience with anything like this. I definitely have friends who have parents who are either demanding or unable to express themselves in a way that is like genuinely positive. But yeah. But yeah, so this is something that we only get very small glimpses at what Picard's relationship with his family is like. But what we know about it is that he really doesn't get along with any of them that well. And having his dad pop into to insult him in the first moments that he is in the afterlife, It's gotta be, it's gotta be pretty rough.

And it seems like Q is attempting to hurt him here. Q enough of this enough for one. By conjuring the parents, and then in sort of a ghostly fashion, conjuring the voices of every life, the cards actions have ever taken. Yeah. Like whether intentional or not intentional. And that has to be a lot of fucking voices

given what happened at Wolf 359. Right. I have to believe that most of them happen there. I definitely went to that as well. Do those count to Q? Like how is Q making the judgment calls on this? Because there's got to be edge cases, right? Sure.

Like Wolf 359 is kind of Q's fault. Yeah, does Q ever take any responsibility for that? No. It's, I don't know. It also just made me think about the decision to make a life for yourself where life and death things are a part of it, which is a decision that I've definitely not made. But if you decide to be a cop or a doctor or a politician or soldier, there's our soldier, you know? Like there's, like that's a huge responsibility.

And I think that Picard is a character that we have established does not take that responsibility lightly. No, he certainly doesn't. I mean, this scene also made me think like in a way that as a Starfleet captain, you can draw a straight line between your decisions and the lives of others. I mean, I'm not so sure that this scene couldn't have been played with you or me in the Picard position. And every moment, every decision we've ever made,

you know, having some sort of butterfly effect on someone else's life. Like, we could have, and it's probably a statistical probability that the yellow light we did not run ended up changing a car's position, 10 cars back, that 20 minutes later resulted in a terrible accident, for example, like we couldn't possibly know the circumstances that we have indirectly created. It's an interesting thought experiment. Picard is, for his part, is basically standing here rejecting Q as the proprietor of the afterlife, the owner operator of the Matrix. I'm really dead.

And my only regret is dying and finding you here. He doesn't accept that he has just been determined with Q, and he's basically, you know, pursuing the same line he always does with Q, which has cut it out, leave me alone. Wouldn't you almost be relieved if you died and saw someone familiar? Like you, I kind of feel like I would. The alternative could be worse. So Q explains that the heart is the culprit,

the artificial heart that Picard famously had replaced by Dr. Polaski. And in talking about why he has this heart, they retell the story of Picard bar brawling with no seconds by showing like the young man, the young like newly commissioned Ensign Picard fighting nozzincons in the Matrix. This is damn exciting stuff. Yeah, it's a youthful and hairy Jean-Luc Picard. Yeah, full head. Taken a really long knife to the chest, it reminded me of the scene of Wesley getting

stabbed with the bayonet. Yeah, also a queue episode. Yeah. What is it about that form of death? It is attractive to queue. Yeah, I don't know. Lots of impalements in the queue verse. This is a great episode for Star Trek fighting

because it is just, it is nothing but two handed punches, like elbows to the chest flips over the shoulder. Ben, if there were such a thing as like a strip mall dojo for Star Trek fighting, I would totally take glasses there. Yeah, why the fuck would that be? Why do the Star Wars guys have lightsaber glasses and we don't have Star Trek fighting glasses? God, that would be so great.

Like, all the punching bags are just really tall. Yeah, you've got to wear those. You're flipping over shoulders. You've got to wear those 12 inch black boots and tuck your pants into them so that they flare out a little bit. The one thing that the instructor share with any other Taekwondo dojo is always a ponytail every time. Worf pony in this case.

Here Jiu Jitsu is really good for balance. Jiu Jitsu sucks. He suggests that Picard could try this all over again. Picard says that if he had that opportunity, he would play these moments very differently. Think it would be different. Just then a hand slaps across Picard's face. And he is in an old-timey Kirk movie era uniform.

And he's on like a star base. And a woman has just slapped him and stormed out of the room. My love is a piece of longing, like a starbase and a woman has just slapped him and stormed out of the room. Did you get a good glimpse of what this dorm was like? Not a lot of privacy I thought. Yeah it seemed like a kind of an open plan, just beds and desks everywhere. Yeah. Kind of a deal. Yeah, slap to the face.

Five fingers to your face, pipes. Slap! Yeah. So the camera spins around and we've got two yucky-yuck buddies from the Academy, Ensign, Marta, botanities, and Ensen, Cory Zweller, who is the, what did I write that? Is the world's shittiest Eric Stoltz? Oh, that's not nice.

You don't normally don't go that hard. You know, Marta should be familiar to you, Ben, isn't that one of your signed cards? Oh, shit, it's one of mine, isn't it? Maybe it's one of yours. I don't think it's one of mine. The 17-year-old JC Brandy. Yeah. UK actress. As Marta. She's got some real booth from Teen Wolf vibes to me. And I mean that very complimentary. Yeah, this is definitely... this is definitely, this is definitely a lady that's a little distracting when she's on screen.

Yeah, real nice. Pipes gets to make out with her, which is really. A little problematic. Do you think? Did her parents have to sign something? God, could you imagine? How does that work? Totally a minor, like... Ugh, okay.

It's okay, I'm Patrick Stewart. Pipe sort of goes both ways in this episode, because a little after this, he goes on a date with an older woman. Like the reason he gets slapped is this girl finds out about the second date and Ben. This is a major mistake that you only make once, I feel like, is double booking date night with two different women. So he gets the five fingers to the face from woman one and then he goes out on the date with Penny. Penny, sort of an older woman for a cadet of his true age at the time. And he gets the drinks splashed in the face from Penny.

So he's basically screwed up both of his dates. I wish that that was a mistake I had ever had an opportunity to make once. Yeah, he pretty much deserves it on both counts. What did you think of maybe Picard, but mostly Patrick Stewart playing the reactions to these things the way that he does? He's still very much acts as a visitor in his own life. Yeah. Like, he is not amused by any of these things in a way that I was sort of hoping for. I think he sort of has the thing that Troy had in the face of the enemy, which is that first walk out

onto the bridge where she's asked to play a role that she has had no time to prepare for. She's not sure of herself. And, you know, Q didn't exactly give him a lot of warning about what was about to happen to him. And he's freaked out about it. Like, he's really worried that he's going to be causing some kind of timeline problem. Right. And it's so strange, like, they have to, in a way that in so many other episodes, the

rules of the game are implied instead of stated, like they go ahead and state the rules of the game, you know, in that there are... They have to do some serious exposition to make this one work. And yeah. And I think, I found that despite the fact that they did that, the exposition was really unsatisfying, and I don't think that I would have been satisfied if I were a Picard, because Q's promise is that I will give you my personal guarantee, but nothing you do here will end up hurting anyone,

or have an adverse effect on what you know of his history. What he should have said is, you know, I can rewind anything, you know, this can have all the effect in the world or none at all. Doesn't make a big difference. He levels one of the most withering insults, I think he's given to anyone on the show, which is telling Picard that he's not that important in terms of like the space time continuum. Which is brutal. Yeah. You have to think that that keeps Picard up at night after this.

Yeah. And you know, we're 15 minutes into the episode and I think it's made clear at this point that this is going to be a, it's a wonderful pipes episode. Oh, Adam. Captain Picard, this is your pipes. Which is a title so bad it caused you to leave our podcast recording to hang up on me. Yeah, the desperate clawing for the ding that you just did there. Cust my entire internet connection to collapse. I deserve that.

You know during the break, I walked outside and yelled at a guy with a chainsaw to stop his work because I was recording a Star Trek podcast. You may in fact still hear that chainsaw because of how impotent that request was. Yeah. I think it was last week's shows. There was a guy sanding down the floors in the apartment across the hall from us. And I went to ask him if he had anything quieter he could be doing,

which was maybe not the best strategy to take because he didn't have particularly strong English skills and trying to explain that I was recording a Star Trek podcast took me further into the weeds than that guy really deserved. We should know what embarrassment translates into in multiple languages. Picard has not gone to this bar alone. He gets the drinks splashed on his face and turns around and his buddy is there playing Dom Jat, which has the distinction of me being maybe the first time they've come up with a fake game in this show and had it be a game that looks like anybody would actually play.

It looks like a ton of fun. It looks really fun. I want to play some of that Dom Jat. Yeah, Dom Jat looks great. You got people like watching the Domjet, playing the dumbjet, putting their quarters up to be next to play dumbjet. Yeah. That's broke.

It's like he's playing a violin or something. One of the guys with a quarter for the next step is one of these no seconds, yeah? The no seconds are, the dialogue is written sort of like they They wrote English dialogue and then fed it into Google translate For Japanese and then put it in like Bing translate back to English They've got very simplistic English skills and Big is so often code for dumb on Star Trek, isn't it?

Or like or or or in articulate. They look like They are a hair metal band from the predator planet. Yeah They're kind of they're also kind of just a mishmash of Other loaf we've already seen. I think this is the first time we actually see the nozzincons, right? Like we've heard about them before, but we've never seen them. Yeah. And they've got some pretty intense mouth loaf, specifically. Yeah, does not look comfortable.

Like, you know, in the way that like wearing stage, hair, stage face makeup that includes hair has got to be itchy, I can't imagine what it's like to wear three appendages around your lips and how hard it must be to not pick at them or tongue them or anything. The crafty PAs probably had to do a lot of runs to jump a juice during this shoot because that's pretty much the only thing these guys are going to be able to consume. You're drinking through a straw for the length of the shoot, that's for sure. One of the Nossikans challenges Korsi to a Game of Dumb shot. Kori is feeling great about his recent win.

He's like, yeah, I'll take you on, dude, and Picard's like, no way. You get to give this guy a wide berth. Look at how big he is, and he looks angry, and not only that, they're really sore losers. Yeah. Did you notice that people applause during Dom Chat? Yeah. I did, especially Marta. Marta claps like 20 times. Have you ever been to a dive bar and seen anybody clap their hands when somebody sunk the eight ball? Have you ever been the last Clapper?

Like, I never want to be the last Clapper. I've stopped clapping 10 claps before the other people most of the time. I like being the first Clapper though. There's like a risk involved. Yeah. Can we get this going? You're really going out on a limb there. Yeah. Marta takes it like there's a clap conclusion

and then sort of a Coda part to the clap that she repeats. Yeah. And yet unlike say Mr. Hollum on the bridge of the surprise. It's not like everybody turns and sticks their finger in their collar and goes, yeah, yeah. Yeah. So in a way, a Corey, young Corey, young Redhead Corey is inspired to keep dumbjotting. And And yeah, young Picard, as played by old Picard, tries to talk him out of it. And it becomes kind of a rift. Like the shittiest Eric Stoltz does not take kindly to Picard kind of second-guessing a decision like this.

And Picard's point is just like these guys are real ass wipes when they lose. Like who's kind of asking for trouble and he's like, well I'm an ass wipe when I lose too, buddy. Yeah, and it's like, you know when you know someone for so long and you expect them to act a certain way, it's like if pleveeem stopped going to strip clubs. Raz would be like, what the hell man, this is something that we really enjoyed. We used to do it all the time. Who are Raz and pleveem again? I don't know. That's not important. That's neither here nor there. Well, there's the ones putting gas in your car, Ben. If I had a car, I might have remembered who they were.

So sure enough, they treat Eric Stoltz like he's Michael J. Fox. He loses, and they go back, and they they have a pretty heated interaction here, right? Like, Eric Stoltz wants to go back and trick out the table to make for a short thing of a rematch. They're hellbent on revenge. What does it mean? It means a map. It means rainwind. Why can't you just let it go?

It means rain, rain, and day. Why can't you just let it go? Yeah, they seem strangely focused on the dumb-jot situation, don't they? Like, they're about to ship out in like two days. They don't want to go out like this, though. I've played a lot of dumb-jot, a lot of places, and I've never seen the balls roll that well for anyone. Yeah, yeah, they want, I think that there's this thing running through this episode, which is that, you know, your personal narrative, how you think about your past is kind of how you think

about yourself, how you define yourself, and that kind of like has major impact on the kind of opportunities that open up in your life. It's kind of the secret, but in Star Trek. And I think Cory has like a intrinsic understanding of this as a young man and Picard as an old man inhabiting his younger self is much more conservative with the way he plays a situation and doesn't want it to get out of hand. Yeah, it's old white conservatism, isn't it? Yeah.

I mean, these are both Trump voters, but for very different reasons, you know, like Cory is much more of like an alt-right kind of guy and Picard is settling for because he's the Republican nominee. Cory wants the statues to remain. Cory seems really put off by pipes at this point, but Marta appears to be, I don't know if she's more attracted by it, but she sees this sensitivity in Picard that allows for a conversation she's never been able to have with them before, which is the, why didn't we ever do it conversation? And Picard's like, I don't know, why didn't we ever do it?

And she's like, well, we could do it right now. Picard's like, yeah, why don't we just go ahead and do it? And so they do it, then. They do it right there. And what's going on here seems pretty pervy, doesn't it? They do it then, they do it there. And a really titillating makeup scene between a 17-year-old, and I really don't even want to look up how old Patrick Stewart is in the scene, but let's just say 18 Let's just say a

problematic age Like if you were to look at and Patrick's do its driver's license around this time It would just say age problematic Yeah, that's that is a a specific thing at the DMV. When you get caught on screen doing something like this. Eyes blue, height, six feet, organ donor, yes. Age problematic. The opting in for donating as organs is cold comfort. Yeah he doesn't

have a heart to donate that's for sure. He wakes up in bed and gets a little loving stroke on his ear and rolls over to find one cue in his captain's shirt rolling around in bed next to him. This bed is too small, Ben. It's a double bed. Yeah, that was definitely like an era, though, right? Like when you're just out of college or whatever? Yeah, most definitely.

When you don't know any better. We had, I think like my parents stayed with us one time recently and we let them use the big bed and we stayed in our guest bed which is my old full-size bed. We got them fucked and we ever do this. My parents have a twin-size trundle bed in their in their post-retirement home. Sure. And I can only take it as a feeling of hostility toward visitors. Yeah, that's more of a, why don't you look into a Lakinta in the nearby area.

Really sense of message, I think. So yes, at this point also, Corey has rigged the table and is like hell-bent on re-challenging these nozzikins. So whether or not Picard likes at the confrontational scene that is supposed to end with him skewered is impending. Funny, we hear about this all the time and time travel. Like it's sort of a trope and time travel movies that, you know, for all of your attempts to change what happens, there's a certain fate to intervene and course corrects for whatever

attempts you make to change it. Right. Yeah, I mean, that's kind of a trope. And I think it's less heavy-handed in this episode. Yeah. Yeah. I've seen it in some other things. But yeah, like at this point, like there's real chilly vibes between Picard and Corey and Marta. Yeah, they have a morning after breakfast,

Marta and Picard, and she is full on regretting the doing it of the night before. I can only attribute this to maybe the sex wasn't great. Because Pipes' reputation around a, sort of a catch. Like I think she had to have pretty high expectations for what that would be like. And instead, he probably had that old man stamina. No stamina, sad. Well, the Nosecans come in, they challenge Eric Stoltz to one more game of Dom Jat. And they're like about to get in the fight.

They're like on the edge of the fight. They are and body. Cowards. Nobody calls me. And Eric Stoltz, like, rushes one of the Nossikans and Picard grabs him and like shoves him incredibly violently back over one of the bar tables. Almost like jerk cable strength on Corey. Yeah, like Corey takes the kind of fall that if he wasn't a stuntman, could break your fucking neck.

Yeah, and also, where did pipes get that strength? He's superhuman in the scene. It's kind of, yeah, but it's kind of like, you can't think of a good reason for the shove to be that hard. If Picard had hit Anoss again with the strength that he shoved Corey across the room with, he'd be decapitated. They wouldn't have done him the favor of stabbing him in the chest. They would have gone right through the neck, right?

And Corey is fucking pissed. Rightfully so. He's pissed but the line reading here is the line is I don't know who you are anymore but you're not my friend and like there are a lot of ways to play that moment as an actor. This guy plays it in like Christian-Bale Batman voice. It's so fucking over the top. I don't know who you are anymore, but you're not my friend. I am the knight, I am the darkness. I'm gonna go serve on the Ajax now.

My favorite game is Dom Jotts. I had a Dom Jot table installed in the bat game I always wanted one as a kid, but my dad wouldn't get one for the basement We had a rumpus room and everything. It didn't make sense In a way my father's death gave me permission to make all kinds of strange purchases like this. Some people would call it a quarter-life crisis. I call it living my best life. So what if I want to eat lucky charms for breakfast? It's my choice! It's my body! I even have a place for the Dom.Q on my Batman utility belts. Are we done?

I think we're done here. We gotta move on to P1's. Just hat on hat on hat on hat. The end of this fight results in Q congratulating Picard on averting the moment in his life that got him stabbed in the heart. And Picard turns around and he's on the bridge of the entrepreneur in a blue shirt. Yeah. Can I help you, Mr. Picard? Seeing him in the blue shirt is as striking as it was to see data in the red shirt. There's something about his complexion that does not agree with the blue.

And the red shirt there's something about his complexion that does not agree with the blue I Think it's a little better for Picard in blue than it was for data in red, but it definitely is Alarming and it doesn't like yeah like they have they have Carved such a deep groove in our brains right at this point for what color Picard's shirt should be. Yeah. Like when Warfin' Jority switched from red to yellow, it doesn't blow your mind that much.

Yeah. But at this point, we've got more than a hundred episodes lined up of this guy in red. So see him in blue is like, wuh, wuh. Patrick Stewart does a really subtle thing here after his quantum leap, which is he does not assume captain's posture ever. Like his shoulders are never pulled back. He never pulls down the front of his uniform at any point. He is very subtly slouched. Yeah, and he's got a pip and a half,

and he's like getting told what's going on by worth and data. Data is like, you know, he's like disoriented and doesn't know, you know, what his status is and where he stands on this ship. So data is like, hey, you seem pretty confused there, little buddy. Perhaps I should have scored you to six,

but no, I couldn't find my own way there. He even offers to lock him there, which I thought was really charitable. This is data. Yeah, one of the most humane things data has done. Yeah. And he's an astrophysics officer. So he's been sent back to the age that

he was before this little Q adventure. Yeah. But to a life path that is marked not by the success of success of JLP, but by a certain degree of mediocrity. Yeah. He launches into Six Bay and he's like, Beverly, something crazy's happened, and in Beverly's chair wheels around a doctor-smacked cue with one of those giant reflectors. That seems to be the troubleouble, Lloyd N. Begar. Yeah, why is Q dressed as 1950s doctor?

Because it's fun. He's just having a little fun. Yeah, but like in what context? Like this is definitely something they had in the costume closet on the on the Paramount lot, but like why why this for Q? Yeah, I don't know. Silly. He's like look Picard, this is what you wanted. You wanted the chance to go back and redo your youthful indiscretions while you've done it. And this is where it's gotten you. And by the way, it's gotten you alive in a way that the other path leaves you dead. So enjoy. Bye.

And that's all Picard needs to hear to think, I need a fucking drink. So yet to come to 10 forward. And before he pulls his belly up to the bar, he spots Riker and Troy on kind of like a quasi date and he's like, oh, fuck, guys, I gotta talk to you about this. And they're like, well, we were in the middle, he's like, no, seriously, like this is really important. Can I sit down and they're like,

well, and he's like, thanks, thanks. Listen, I've been thinking a lot about the fact that I'm a lieutenant, and I'd like to start to think about ways I could advance my career. Perhaps we should discuss this at your next evaluation. Observing that, you know, so far I haven't really done much. In the like, obviously like, multiple decade term of service I've had in the in the Starfleet. And Riker and Troy are like complimentary about his work ethic, but they're pretty hesitant to give a full-throated endorsement of the plan that he's suggesting of trying to advance himself

and become more of a figure of agency. This is my favorite scene in the episode because it really brings into relief the relationship in a couple of different ways. The way that we know these people and how close they are and then their opportunity to act totally against that type. Like for Riker and Troy to be a little put off by Picard sitting next to them to see Picard ask for career advice in a in the fashion that he does is shocking. I mean for a lot of people this episode is about like regret in that it's a wonderful

life sort of way. But like this is the moment in the episode that informs to me that it's about taking chances and the huge difference, you said this earlier, like the huge difference between how other people see you, how you see yourself and how much of a person's life is about closing the distance between those two things. And this is a moment where Picard attempts to close that distance, and to be utterly rebuffed in the way that he is here is just shattering.

It shatters me every time I see it. Yeah, I mean, I think that this is the, conversely, the scene that I have the biggest problem with in this episode. Oh, I almost spit-ticked that, really. Yeah, because I think that this scene... Like, you're right, it gets to the core of the premise of the episode. And I think that the premise of the episode is where my problem lies. I think that this is tremendously insulting

to the dignity of having a long career doing something. I mean, there is, like we know who Picard is and what he's capable of. But I think that, I don't know, like my mom was a teacher for 30 years and there's nothing glamorous about being a teacher in the same way that there's nothing glamorous about being a junior grade astrophysics officer.

I see what you're getting at, yeah. And like, I think that, like my personal bias in life is to try and get people's attention and be the boss. I like being the director. I like being at the center of it a little bit. It's how I'm wired. I think that this is really something that is a bias in Hollywood, especially, which

is that I think everybody kind of has that to one degree or another. And like I had the same problem with La La Land last year. It's a movie about struggling artists making sacrifices and taking leaps of faith to do what they want to do. And that's a kind of story that I'm really down for because it speaks a lot to my life, except for in this case, it was written and directed by a guy who's like 28 and has been a tremendously successful director for his entire adult life.

And I just like, I don't see what that guy has to add to that conversation. And this seemed to me, and I don't disagree that it's really well played. Like I think that the acting and the kind of turning the status of the characters on their head is brilliantly executed. It's just that like I think that there is room in the world for people that aren't wired like me and do just want to have like a quiet dignity in their lives and don't want to be the captain. My interpretation of this was that there was not

satisfaction to be had in a life of quiet dignity. It was that that type of life did not comport to Picards into the way that Picards Self-actualized himself. And like, you know, for many, and in fact For most people, most people are very happy doing whatever it is they're doing, whether it's great or small. But it's the conflict between taking Someone out of one stream of life and placing them into another that was so disruptive and terrible. And I guess I didn't take it as insulting towards one way of life versus another. It was just that the tension between a man's relationship to the way things were versus the circumstances that he was dropped into.

Yeah, I think that that's, I think that's definitely some validity in that. I think I most definitely felt the way you did. Like there was a, there was a moment in this conversation where I was like, let's not insult the astrophysics guys whose work is noble and good and satisfying to anyone who is in that career. So I felt that. I think that it's probably a very personal story for whoever wrote this one. I don't remember.

And a totally valid experience. The thing that informed my feelings on this scene were extremely personal though. The discomfort and dissatisfaction I have with my own life and my own ambitions are what make this scene read so strongly for me. Yeah, I think that there is, it is very hard to ever feel satisfied when you have a strong desire to be somewhere else. And the character of Picard in this very much does. And that's very palpable.

And I think that, yeah, like if you read this scene as it's not about everybody has to be super successful and wheeled authority over other people to have any value. If that's the way you read the scene, then it's pretty insulting, but if you just read it as like, it's just Picard's personal experience in his sense of where he wants to be

and feeling very far from that. I guess I have less of a problem with it. One omission from this timeline is that Picard grieves for his career, but he also has no friends. He's lost all of his friends and relationships from his other life. And I wonder how differently this timeline would have played to us as the viewer if he was married to Marta, for example, in a, in a, uh, Keko and OBrien's dial loveless marriage, or if he was still friends with Beverly, but their relationship was not as strong,

or maybe stronger, maybe he marries Beverly Crusher. Like, is there anything about this life that would give him a reason to pause his request when he sees Q again, which is basically, put me out of my misery, I can't do this anymore. I'd rather die on the table than live this life. Yeah, hard to say. Yeah.

I mean, I think that there's definitely room in this premise for a double episode like that, where you really like go through some versions. The one place this episode lacks for me is that the decision is so easy for him. There's nothing to stay for, and if he had one little thing to stay for, I think that would have been a really intense choice. To complicate that.

Yeah. They don't make it so. They don't make it so. He gets in the turbo lift and he basically begs Q to bring him back. Is it a muse you'd think of me living out the rest of my life as a dreary man in a tedious job? The turbo lift doors open and he's back in the matrix and he persuades Q to let him put things back the way they were. So he reappears in the bar fight scene. And it's like right before he shoved his buddy Eric Stoltz. And in this context, rather than getting in between his friend and the Nosycane to defend his friend from the Earth to defend the

Nosecane from his friend. He steps in between to start, start throwing haymakers. Just drop an axe handles everywhere. Yeah. And this fight is pretty rough. Like, Marta gets like a couple of pretty serious punches to the face. Yeah. Eric Stoltz goes flying across the room. Like, Marta gets like a couple of pretty serious punches to the face. Yeah. Eric Stoltz goes flying across the room, like, the card is essentially the ultimo ombre

on the, on the federation side of this thing. The, it's a real Mike Tyson's punch out, you know, scale between the federation guys and, and the Noseikens, like they're really punching up. Uh, uh, up yours dude. We always have to punch up. I was expecting that moment in the fight where someone jumps onto someone else's back

and like, the big guy just sort of spins around. Hehehehe. It's a big versus small fight often ends up. The Nosscane goes, you merely adopted Dom-Dom-Dom-Dom-Dom-Dom-Dom-Dom-Dom-Dom-Dom-Dom-Dom-Dom-Dom-Dom-Dom-Dom-Dom-Dom-Dom-Dom-Dom-Dom-Dom-Dom-Dom-Dom-Dom-Dom-Dom-Dom-Dom-Dom-Dom-Dom-Dom-Dom-Dom-Dom-Dom-Dom-Dom-Dom-Dom-Dom-Dom-Dom-Dom-Dom-Dom-Dom-Dom-Dom-Dom-Dom-Dom-Dom-Dom-Dom-Dom-Dom-Dom-Dom-Dom-Dom-Dom-Dom-Dom-Dom-Dom-Dom-Dom-Dom-Dom-Dom-Dom-Dom-Dom-Dom-Dom-Dom-Dom-Dom-Dom-Dom-Dom-Dom-Dom-Dom-Dom-Dom-Dom-Dom-Dom-Dom-Dom-Dom-Dom-Dom-Dom-Dom-Dom-Dom-Dom-Dom-Dom-Dom-Dom-Dom-Dom-Dom-Dom-Dom-Dom-Dom-Dom-Dom-Dom-Dom-Dom-Dom-Dom-Dom-Dom-Dom-Dom-Dom-Dom-Dom-Dom-Dom-Dom-Dom-Dom-Dom-Dom-Dom-Dom-Dom-Dom- I was expecting like 40 gallons of blood from that. So Picard wakes up on the biobad. His vital signs are stable. A little unclear whether Crusher has saved him or Q just kind of unfused, whatever was fused. Because like no further work has been done.

You know, like they haven't cut off the shirt. He doesn't even have the, the like things on his temples to shock him back, back awake. I sort of got that this was a cue miracle. Yeah, and he's laughing in the, it's like the continuation of the laugh from when the spike goes through his chest.

Yeah. And, Meanwhile, the other way team guy who was injured down on the planet is like, can I maybe have a rag for something? The button on the episode is in the observation lounge, Riker and Picard talking over the near death experience that Picard had. A very cool long push-in on this scene where they start like way down, the camera is like way, way down at the other end of the table and pushes all the way into a really tight two-shot.

Well executed, I think they probably had to like half grips like moving the chairs out of the way as they did this. Yeah, that was really cool. It's pretty seamless though. It's like, it's a good floating camera. And you know, Picard doesn't have any good way of knowing whether it's something that like his brain gave him or if it was actually something that Q did. You know, there's still a part of me that cannot accept that Q would give me a second chance, or that he would demonstrate so much compassion. I really like that Picard chose Riker to have this conversation with too.

You only occasionally get a sense of how intimate they are as friends, and I think this is one of those moments. You can't tell just anyone this story. Jen like a crazy person. Yeah, does this precarious have to put this in a report? Man, I mean, I don't know what Nichev would do if she read this report. I'm here to relieve you of command of the Enterprise. She'd probably install Jeleco again.

Yeah. Jeleco is in the Chaves kind of office, you know? Riker admits that he wish he had the chance to know this young Luke Picard. Sort of a lifestyle that Riker lives right now, you know? He's like that guy and I would have been great friends. Tell me a little bit more about Penny. You think she's still around? You think she has the same number?

And if it was Q, I owe him a debt of gratitude. So Ben, we know you don't like this episode. But can I ask you where it may fall in the spectrum of the bell curve, if you will, of mountain to Armas? Well, of mountain to armus. Well, that's an interesting question. I mean, this is another episode where I don't feel like it indites the whole series in any way, like my problems with it are very like this episode specific. But I mean, I think that it carries with it all of the weight of the reasons I don't like Q as a character, because I think it kind of, Q as a character is a, is a, the kind of thing that I don't think works well in track.

And I think that like exploring the idea of the afterlife in track is, is something that rarely works for me. You know, I think that they've taken stabs at it in almost every iteration of the series to one extent or another. And I just feel like, you know, I understand the temptation if it's a show about boldly going where no one has gone before and death being the most unknowable thing. Yeah, but you know, it's unknowable because it's unmeasurable and this is supposed to be a science fiction show. Yeah, those are those are great points. I had thought a little way through this episode of like this was a very capara Star Trek and it made me wonder how portable other forms of other

genres of film might be when transplanted onto a Star Trek world. The mind kind of reels, you know? Yeah. Like, I wonder if you could start in a place of like take the 10 most beloved films ever made. And which one of those stories would be portable enough to make a Star Trek episode out of? I wonder how many of those would work? Yeah, I don't know. I mean, it had a certain amount of defending your life vibes to it, which is a film I really love, and I think a great treatment of the afterlife. There's also a little bit of oh god you devil in this too. And a fun way is if Cue were the George Burns figure of that movie. But yeah, like that's another, that's another sort of deal with the devil replay your life story.

So, you know, I think that uh, and end of the day, it falls apart for me on a couple of grounds, but I think that like from a technical standpoint it's very well executed and there's a lot of fun stuff in it like I don't think it's failure is an artistic level. I think it's more on a like I kind of have a strong gut reaction against the message of it and and my standing Q anti-Q feelings.

Yeah, that's a hell of a combo. It's a one-two punch in the Mike Tyson parlance. Tell me what you like about this one. What I like are the feelings that it engenders in me. I know it's a purely subjective viewpoint to have, but this episode makes me think a lot about my own life in a way that I am frequently tormented. You know, I'm constantly replaying the decisions I've made or things I could have done differently. And this is an entire episode with people I care about doing those same things.

So it really resonates for me in that way. In a way that is like not, it's strange, you know, like that's not an enjoyable exercise. I don't do it because I like it. But there's a certain degree of catharsis and watching other people do it. And maybe a familiar normalcy, like if these exceptional people have even though they're fictional, like have the same doubts or feelings that I have, maybe I'm not so far off the right track. Do you want to see if we have any priority ones? Yeah, let's do it.

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Hey, that's you and me. Ben, the message goes like this. This is a distress call from a bejorn vessel in a neighboring sector. I've come to book my holidays many months in advance. And you have yet to release dates for Greatest Gen Con 2017. I am paying many scarves to beg you to reveal a safe date to your legions of faithful borgs on Gachdab's slash mail. Wow.

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Yeah, most definitely after the tour that we are planning for August. Yeah. Which is probably going to have a Canadian stop, so. Right. I don't know what part of Canada you're writing in from, but... Canadian is big. It is a big place with not that many people in it. Yeah.

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There's a bunch of scenes in this smokey bar where the Dom Jot table is. Yeah. And you got like one of the dogs from the Fish Freshest fish versus dog alien episode. Yeah. Shows up in there a couple of times, but I think it's the scene where Picard walks in to ultimately shove his buddy and prevent the fight.

There's a guy just like leaning up really in a really awkward way near the door of the bar. And he just looks for everything in the world like a background character from Game of Thrones. It's just like kind of a heavy set, long hair with kind of a Game of Thrones-y tunic and a Game of Thrones-y Beer Mug. And it was so fun to think about, like, how does this guy get to Spacebar from the evil sword fighting land that he obviously comes from? Maybe he stuck there, like that Tom Hanks character in that movie where he lives in an airport. Like he had his visa taken and he can't leave.

Yeah. I just like that guy a lot. Great background work in this episode. Mm-hmm. Super fun. Fish vs. Dog appears to be getting along smashingly. There's centuries of war having not reached the station maybe. Yeah, maybe these guys are like real chill dudes

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