The Greatest Generation - The Booty-Pleasing Trolly Problem (VOY S5E16)

Episode Date: March 13, 2023

When Ensign Kim’s crush turns into a diplomatic sexual incident, Captain Janeway tears him a new one and orders him to break it off with Tal. But when the stakes don’t turn out to be life-threatening and Tal’s instinct for exploration leaves Harry lovesick, a mixtape from Doc Holoday is the only treatment he’ll accept. Why isn’t Mega Maid on the Ships of Sci-fi poster? What was Riker doing off screen in TNG? Which is the worst type of order to break? It’s the episode with a wealth of beach towels!Support the production of The Greatest Generation.Friends of DeSoto for Democracy.Friends of DeSoto for Justice. Follow The Game of Buttholes: The Will of the Caretaker!Music by Adam Ragusea & Dark MateriaFollow The Greatest Generation on Twitter, and discuss the show using the hashtag #GreatestGen!The Greatest Generation is on Twitch.Facebook group | Subreddit | Discord | WikiSign up for our mailing list!Get a thing at podshop.biz!

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It's a Star Trek podcast by a couple of guys Just a little bit embarrassed to have a Star Trek podcast I'm Ben Harrison I'm Adam Pranica You're lucky you got me here today What is that? Because I have to push so hard on the door that goes to the studio to get it open. It's totally swole from rain. It's so bad. You have to put your

entire side body into it. You have to break it down basically. Oh yeah, my backdoor is basically unusable when any amount of water comes out of the sky. And the backdoor on my garage, we discovered last year during the rainy season, is an interior door and is not weatherized in any way. It's just a hollow core like piece of shit, you know, stamped out in a factory and delivered, did Home Depot hollow core piece of shit door. Did I mention it was a piece of shit and that was hollow? I went to the back of this building to like go in and get something out of my toolbox last year after a particularly heavy rain. And I did that thing where I was like turning the door handle

and pushing on the panel of the door with my hand. Yeah, like a normal person would. And my hand just like made a permanent hand print in it. Cause it was so... It's like that metal thing full of pins that you stick your hand in. Right. Yeah, and then you leave it there at the sharp image and go, cool, It's like that metal thing full of pins that you stick your hand in. Yeah, and then you leave it there at the sharp image and go, cool, the next person that comes into the store,

you're going to see old Harrison's hand. And I still haven't replaced it because it's like a weird size and what a nightmare. Good sex. That is just low down dirty shit. The idea that you put an interior door in an exterior spot and sell it, you shouldn't be able to sell a house in that condition. Yeah. Shouldn't I sue the person I bought from just based on that?

Yeah. I don't know what to make of that, man. Like, these houses just don't have rain as part of the plan in their design, you know? No. Los Angeles did never anticipate that something like this would happen. You can tell him a real Angelino because I've used my beach towels more for sapping up rainwater on my door thresholds than actually going to the beach. I was going to ask you, if you had used a new towel every single time you put a towel down

over the last few days, because this is coming out weeks for now. But we've had historic rain here in Los Angeles. Again, multiple times this year already that we've had historic rain here in Los Angeles. Again, multiple times this year already that we've had historic rain. You were telling me about this cycle of towels. If you had to put a new towel down every time you did put a towel down during this cycle, how many towels do you think you went through? Total. Well, I don't want this to be a scandal, but we do have quite a few beach towels. I'm doing okay in the beach towel department.

Ben, you don't need to make us come across as rich assholes when we're about to start pitching our show in a fundraiser, okay? I'll have you know, I have four beach towels. No, stop. People are gonna think we're out of touch and we're living in an ivory tower where we don't know what the plight of the common man is even like.

The absorbency of a beach towel sufficient enough to use one at a time over the course of the day. So I would just switch them out every morning. And towel laundry occurred on Monday. So did them up, got some freshies in here. And I don't think it's supposed to rain anytime soon. I think we're past the worst of it. Oh, really?

I think where I am anyways, there's going to be more rain tomorrow. So that's great. I will go ahead and keep beach towels underneath the doors in my studio. I would say, yeah, give it another day too. God, what the fuck? You know what? It's something we can't control, Ben. The weather. Yeah. Yeah. You can't control the weather. You can't control how you feel. No. And that's how we pivot into today's episode, right? Wow.

That's a lot like love. Hmm. Yeah. You can't choose who you love. You can make choices with respect to your career. That's true. All of those things factor in to season five episode 16. You know what, Wendy calls it episode 16 in the schedule. So that's a work out. That's from her lips to God's ears. Yeah. The disease. Reverse chords. Unless you've got something a little bigger in your torpedo doots, I'm not turning around.

Oh. Our cold open is a push-in on a terrifically long ship. Yeah. It is so long. Ship is really intimidating in the length department. It's not particularly girthy, but it's long. I want to see this thing next to Spaceball 1. Like I want to see that you've seen that poster, right? The ships of science fiction,

and it just compares all of the scale. Yeah. You never see Spaceball 1 on that poster. What do they do with leaving Spaceball 1 off of that poster? It would probably turn that poster into like the Michael Jordan Wings poster. Right. That's just very horizontal. Do you think that they originally were planning on having Spaceball 1 on the poster?

And then it made all the other ships look so tiny by comparison that it's just like, it's an issue of scale. It'd be like showing my house next to the Burj Khalifa. It's not useful to put those two things up next to each other. And also which version, you know, because most of those ships have a pretty horizontal configuration on that poster, but if you do mega-made, it's gonna be hard to compare, right? This is why you don't want to look in the next stall over. You might have a space ball one situation over there at the next year and all. Yeah, space ball one, uncut and 420 friendly.

Yeah. We push all the way into this thing into into the window of a crew quarters on what appears to be like an apartment. And there is some urgent make out happening here with Ensign Kim and a person we haven't met before. And it's the sort of make out. I'm going to describe it, Ben. And you probably don't know what this is it's the sort of make out I'm gonna describe it been and you probably don't know what this is like but like you make out with a person and like the entire world falls away like nothing matters not your

combats that's been thrown across the room not the weird patches of skin on the other person that you haven't really thought too much about or the weird patch of skin on you as you just robe like you just don't care you haven't really thought too much about or the weird patch of skin on you as you just robe. Like you just don't care, you don't think about it. Don't be worried, come here. Uh huh, you're saying I haven't experienced anything like that in my romantic life? No, I'm sure you have, especially the skin patch part.

Yeah, the throwing the combat away thing really brought back the sucked-ish episode of TNG. I was like, precisely. Like, is this lady gonna love him up and get him addicted to something? Don't let her put anything on your face. Or is she gonna turn him into a hornet-toed? No! No! No! No!

Tell me what that's like. You recognize this lady? I don't. She's one of the sirens from our brother where art thou? Wow. Tremendous call. Yeah. Now that you mention it, I do.

Yeah. Very attractive. Great looking lady. Another conquest for Ensen Kim. Something about reminds me of being in the womb. Get out, Harry. Who are you? Harry Kim. Parents must be very proud. Who are you? They come as come as a pair. Who are you? Harry Kim. Who else is she supposed to get chummy with? Harry Kim and your mom. Very proud. Who are you? Harry Kim. I lasted 20 minutes. And you're Mark very proud.

Harry Kim. Who are you? Harry Kim. Just another notch in his fucking clarinet. I know. It's so unfair. He gets all the ladies. He's smooching with her and his skin starts to phosphoresce.

It looks like it feels really good. Yeah. That's what you look for in a make out session. I mean, now he's going to compare all of the future make out sessions to this one. Oh, yeah. Can you chase in that Foss for us and dragon? After the theme, we learned that these people are the Varo. Yeah.

And they've kind of contracted the Voyager. Well, I guess I'm wrong about that. They don't necessarily really like having the Voyager around doing repairs on their warp drive. There seems to be some conflict about this. Yeah. They are sort of like the very handy neighbor who invites themself over and is like under your sink and you're like, I didn't ask for this.

Yeah, yeah, a little too helpful. We have to reconfigure the assembly if we're going to finish this job. Then consider it finished. Aggressively helpful is how the Voyager crew are being. They've been quote unquote helping the Varro with their warp drives for a couple of weeks. What do you make of that timeline?

Because they risked all of their lives to get a piece of Borg's machinery that knocked how long off of their travels. I think 10 or 15 years of memory serves. I was drunk. How many side missions of weeks to months do you think they're doing that would just kind of undo that? Yeah, are they like, oh man, we're like, this is on company time right now. This is awesome.

We've saved ourselves so much of a trip. I mean, like the case is made that we want to get some of their technology in return for this, but like, those seem like really long odds based on how the Varro are acting. Exactly. Like, if they were really cool to be around, I mean outside of the Varro that Ensign Kim is kicking it with. She seems cool. If all of the Varro were as giving as the one that Ensign Kim is encountered, I would understand, but this main Varro, Gip-ek, doesn't seem very easy to work with. Doesn't seem like this is a two-way street in terms of help or diplomacy. And Jane ways running around acting like she runs a service station. She's got crud all over her

face. Yeah. Wow, what happened to you? You falling to some modern sum? She's looking dishevelled. And she's like really doing the hard sell about their cultures being so compatible, and they're being like kind of cousin cultures, you know? Like kissing cousins, maybe. There's a coffee in that cousin. The case there is that the Varo are a generational ship that started much like the Voyager.

They were alone and far away from wherever they came from. And now they've been at it for 400 years, and they've grown, and the ship is huge now, and they've developed their own culture and ethos. And this dude is the head of that, and is working directly with Janeway who has really rolled up her sleeves and thrown herself into the role of engineer. She's like, okay, well, we did all the repairs, now it's time to just charge up your warp system. So go ahead and show me where that stuff is. And he's like, you can't do that. That stuff's classified. And she talks him into it by showing him that they have in fact replaced

like a whole bunch of other stuff that he didn't think was repairable. He's really impressed and he relents. And this is like at one point he turns around in this scene and I was like that's the loaf is just some drawings on the back of their neck. That's all that distinguishes them as aliens. Yeah.

That could just be like a tattoo that a human that's worried about nubbins could get to like draw the eye there so that people are always looking at the back of their neck just in case. The Star Trek wanted poster has got to be more than just straight on and in profile, right?

Right. It's got to be back of the neck. It's got to be behind the ears. Right. Yeah. It's got to be the chest. Right. It's got to be the knees.

Yeah. Now that everyone keeps their loaf in the same place. Yeah. So if I start injecting this warp plasma from Voyager into the Varo ship. Janeway tells this guy to cross his fingers for good luck. And we cut back over to that one lady's quarters where Ensign Kim has been injecting some warp plasma of his own. Not so fast, Ensign Kim. Make sure she gets her plasma coils charged first.

She looks like she got charged up, man. Yeah, I mean, the way she is resting face down on the bed makes it seem as though she has had it absolutely knocked out. It really does. And like the way he is like over at the bum out window is like, man, like it appears as though he's feeling some banging remorse. So intense. Yeah.

The bum out is about him coming to grips with the fact that he has now a rule breaker. Formerly, a lifelong never break. And now a rule breaker. He was ordered specifically not to bang any people on the barrow ship. And that's a really, is it direct contravention of? Yeah. And what we did earlier? I don't know if Starfleet even has a regulation for that. Look at him. Just being led around by his clarinet. He's really in a bad way. Yeah. He doesn't get too far down the mental road of feeling a ton of guilt before he feels

something else. Like the panic of being late for school, there's a banger that they feel in these quarters and it's this process of the warp engine plasma transfer thing and Kim is like, oh fuck, I was supposed to be a part of this. I was supposed to give the book report on the Warp Engine and Plasma Transfer thing. Yeah, I love the putting on the wrong pair of pants moment. Yeah, it's great.

Everyone's done it. Yeah. Coffee. Black coffee. Black. Make it, make it yourself. BLT and Pariser doing the transfer when Kim shows up late. And Paris can just tell something's off.

Damn boy, it's not like six. And then like right afterwards, Tal comes in on the other side. Paris is like, I see what's going on. Yeah. Harry does not want to talk to Tom about this. And they have to shut down the plasma transfer because the bangers are getting more and more intense and They detect some like metallurgical problems on the hull and now they have to inspect all of the pods for damage Which oh what a job having seen a very wide shot of this shift means they're really gonna be

Add it for a long time. Yeah pod inspection is no joke on a ship of this size. Yeah, but it's worth doing, you know, like once a week in the shower. Yeah, yeah, you wanna roll the pods around in your fingers. Yeah. Check for any bumps. Right. Anything that feels unusual, you know.

Early detection is key. Back on Voyager, Kim and Paris talk in a corridor on their way back to their own quarters and Paris kind of resurfaces this feeling he's had about Kim kind of covering something up. Yeah. And when Kim makes with the truth, Paris is totally incredulous.

He's like, oh, here we go again. What? Another woman that will be impossible for you to have a relationship with like you really know how to pick them Some people are just like that Tom. Yeah as long as they're honest about that. There's nothing wrong with it. Yeah Not much between Paris and Kim is about the regulatory nature of this problem like this is purely a Social sexual a Tory nature of this problem. Like this is purely a social sexual topic for them. Pairs is not like, whoa, you're gonna get the book thrown

at you, buddy. Yeah, take it for me. The guy that is ducking and running surf between books that are being hurled at him constantly. Yeah. Like they demoted me a pip for doing what I did. How many pips do they take off of you? You don't have a pip for doing what I did. How many pips do they take off of you? You don't have a lot of pips to spare.

Kim. Yeah. So Kim gets back to his quarters and immediately sends a coded message to Tals quarters, this lady. And I'm just fascinated by the set design choice of like the fact that she has like a visio television and her quarters. In the same way that we noticed, appreciated and overused sounds great from Ticote, Kim's

take of I lasted 22 minutes, should be snipped and used for the rest of the series by us. Yeah. Yeah, this is a sweet little lover's twist that they're having over FaceTime. And it's been established. This is a very xenophobic species, but what we also establish in the scene

is that they fuck really differently. And she and Kim sort of discovered that in real time as they figured that all out. I wasn't expecting something so different. It seems like they're more aware of it now than they were during. Sort of, yeah. Like they both had like a couple of hyenas than they were during? Sort of, yeah, like they, like they'd both had like a couple of hyenas when they got in bed and so like they were kind of just

rolling with it and now they have had some time to process it, they're like, that was so weird. Kim's like flippers, huh? And Tows like, what was the dangly thing? And Towslake, what was the dangly thing? What was that thing that sort of looked like a generational shift, but girthier? What was that thing that kind of looked like the clarinet you play?

They are talking a lot about what they did physically, a very sexual conversation for Star Trek, I thought. Sure it is. Up on the bridge, there's just some jocular work conversation happening between Paris and Tuvac, just some ambient bridge banter, Tuvac detects that an unauthorized transmission is happening. Decides to start zeroing in on who is sending it and to where and Paris jumps into the middle of this and offers to track it down and scrambles the connection

between Harry and Tall so that no one will find out what was really going on. This show does Chicote so dirty by not putting this message up on the view screen. Like by not embarrassing Kim the way they would embarrass Chicoete. It's not fair. I thought for sure I was craving this. I was like, please put this on the view screen. Yeah.

Put it on the one MC and the whole chip here is. If they had done that, it would have been in the running for one of the most embarrassing moments in Star Trek. Like, totally. It would have been incredibly cringe. Yeah. Instead, it's just mid. But here's the thing. Nobody rides for Chico Te the way Paris rides for Kim.

And Paris is doing his boy a solid in this moment. Who rides for Chico Te? He rides for thee. You're right about that. Like Janeway would ride for him, but like, not like this. Cover up something embarrassing. Yeah. I don't like how all of Chico Te's embarrassments are out in the open.

It doesn't seem right. Yeah. So good guy, Paris really does Kim a solid. and we cut over to the cargo bay where Chico Jay's running a meeting for a bunch of crew people in Paris tells Kim, how much he owes him. It's a major debt that Harry has now. They're all being given assignments for this micro fractures detection detail and paired off into teams. And Harry Kim is getting paired off with seven of nine. Now headed to the ass lab to use its scanners to try and find

problems on the hull of the other ship. Kim's doing that thing where he's way more comfortable talking to a person when they're no longer crushing on them. Like Kim asks Seven about relationship stuff in a way he never would have back when he was interested. And the way Seven just talks about love makes it sound like a disease in a way that makes a lot of sense. Yeah. It can feel like that sometimes.

She doesn't, you know, place a lot of stock in it. And as they're talking about this, he's getting more and more emotional to the point where he's glowing. And this is when he gets sent off to the infirmary. We should report to 6-day. I was shocked that we were already like a third of the way into an episode called the disease

before the doctor. And what embarrassment I was hoping for on the bridge gets transferred into this scene because in six bay, the doctor's exam reveals that Kim's crush is quarantine worthy. And when Kim has to explain the reason for his glowing skin condition, like anything you call personal is code for sexual, right? Like personal experience, personal massager, personal coffee, right?

Coffee's not coffee, coffee is sex. We had sex. It's all sex stuff. I don't know why Kim is so confident that this is not transmissible also, because he's like, no, you don't have to quarantine me. Nobody else is gonna get this. Like, you don't know that.

Like, maybe the glowing is a virus that you got from her, you know? And Kim's been quarantined before with awful shit. Yeah. So I don't know where his confidence is coming from, but once the captain hears about it, all that confidence is gonna go away pretty fast, huh? Yeah. She has him up to her office,

and I loved seeing the ship out the window in the scene. I love the perspective. The vero ship is like deep in the background of this shot in a really cool way. And she is livid with the choices that Harry has made or rather Harry's clear net has made. I'm sorry. I don't know what I was thinking.

Don't you? I've seen tall. She's an impressive young woman. Beautiful. On this ship, I am the HR department. And Kim's memorization of the employee rules about fraternizing with aliens is insufficient proof that he should know better. There's a lot of discussion of like what the horneast Star Trek series is and what the horneast Star Trek series is and what the Horniest Star Trek episode is.

And this episode has some of the highest highs. And this is one of the lowest lows. Because if you really have to get your commanding officer and the medical officer to sign a piece of paper before you can hit it with an alien that you've fallen for, that makes Starfleet seem like such prudes. It makes it seem as though Commander Riker was buried in paperwork offscreen. Like every time we didn't see Commander Riker,

he was filling out sexual forms and triplicate. This is the real complaint Shaw has with Picard and Riker. It's like they never followed these specific rules. Yeah, it's not just a diplomatic incident. It's a sexually diplomatic incident. And the Varo, you just know are not. It's a sexually diplomatic incident and the VARO, you just know we're not going to take kindly to this incident at all. And that's the case, Janeway, is making. Obviously, you have strong feelings for this girl.

That's fine, but the high level issue is I'm trying to trade our engineering expertise for technology of theirs that will help us get home. And you've put all of that in jeopardy. So now, this delicate situation of us, trying to get the nervous cat of the Varo to warm up to our presence is going to be much harder. Yeah, unfortunately, Janeway is not a Benjamin R. Harrison in cat department.

Right. Varo just loved me. Varo sees me and wants to get pet, you know? Yeah. Yeah. Do it. Do it. Do it.

Do it. Do it. Do it. Do it. There's an interesting energy to the scene that isn't necessarily about Kim's infraction. It's that, and some Kim has the energy of like the middle scholar who's in love for the first time that thinks that this is the one. Right. Because when Kim says this

isn't just fucking this is a relationship, Janeway has been in many relationships, you would have to assume. And that this may be one of Kim's first serious ones is like part of the energy of it. Like it's part of what makes what he says a little bit embarrassing. Like when he defends it as a relationship, it has that energy of like, I'm going to love her forever and we're going to get married. And she's the one for me in a way that Janeway cannot believe. Right. Is that wrong? I mean, do you think stupid? She doesn't turn it around and say, you know, Tom Mervins was my first boyfriend.

I met him four years ago. Yeah. For the clothes you love to live in. Doesn't go quite that way. Check back in with me when you own dogs together, Ensign Kim. Ha ha ha ha ha ha. Nielix has found some suspicious activity that he reports to Tuvac. The Helix has like actually gone and done

a like a full investigation of his own. There's like a Varro like stowing away on the ship in a Jeffries tube. He's replicated a bunchro like stowing away on the ship in a Jeffries tube. He's replicated a bunch of like white chocolate candy bars, which is the act of a desperate person. White chocolate, saloonliest chocolate. I love the tight shot of the bag of Scooby Snacks here. It's great.

I thought for sure it would be a tube that Kim and Tal fucked in. Like, I was totally thinking something else. Like, Tuvak, if you see a sock on the door in that jeffries tube, you do not need to open that thing, man. Why would I want to? Be a bro. Hold me down to a rock. Yeah. Hold me down the way Paris would. Yeah. Yeah. Very surprising was this reveal for that reason. Yeah. Back on the vero ship, Kim goes over to Tell's quarters

and you know, he's talking to her about what a tough spot he's in. She's talking about how self-located she feels on this ship. Like, she's really interested in stellar phenomena and is like looking at quasars and things on her view screen and talking about how interested she'd be in studying those things up close. And she's been forbidden from doing it because they've got this one big ship

and it'd be too dangerous to, you know, take it in close to a Mutara class, Nebula, or similar. And you start to get the sense that she's not super excited about the way her society is structured in the classic way of so many Star Trek characters. It's a really interesting articulation of the problem, right? Like you think generation ship, you think great technology, better technology than most other species, technology that would protect you

for most things in space. But what she's describing as a situation where the value of the people and the tech is so high, that it's not worth risking anything. Yeah. So they're like super risk averse and super insular and the xenophobia is part and parcel of that and she finds it suffocating, which is like probably a big part of why she's fucking an alien, you know. Yeah. They talk about the mechanics of that, like the energy that he's exhibiting, and she's like, no, that's not heard.

It's just, that's what happens when we fall in love in our, over here. It's just glow warts. Yeah. Everyone's got him over here anyway. Yeah. But you don't have the vaccine. Now it came out after I was a teenager, so I didn't get it. Kim asks if the process is reversible that Tal is describing, and that's such a cold thing

to ask in a moment like this, because the way Tal describes the glow is that like, it's a bond. Like it means something very, very special. And she's like, yeah, it's reversible if we stay away from each other. And Kim's like, all right, well, I guess I'll just go back to the ship and then stop short. He does that thing. Very dramatic, romantic flourish.

Yeah. You can't let me go, babe. Can you? We got a glow together. If I was ever having an intense emotional moment with my wife and I went and stood facing away from her and kept talking. Yeah, I would look like a madman. Hey, guess what, Instant Kim, you're playing games here.

Cut it out. Say what you mean and do what you say. Yeah. Yeah, she can't let him go. They go back to second face. Yeah, they're gonna let him go. They go back to suck in face. Yeah. They're going to make each other glow all right. And we cross fate to those white chocolate candy bars. Getting very melty. Some dope on the table as Chicote and Tuvac interrogate their little they're a little stow away. And this guy has a bit of a dirty secret about the vero ship and the oppressive dis of its society. And he wants asylum. He doesn't want to go back.

He hates it over there. He wants them to take him with them. This guy makes different choices than we usually get from a guy asking for asylum, right? Because he asks for asylum and then shuts the fuck up. Yeah. It seems like Chico-tey and Tuvac are not asking especially probing questions, but it seems like he touches his own third rail and his answers and he's like, oh, I better not talk about the movement.

Yeah, is that a side effect of being in such a closed society that he just doesn't... I think his blood sugars all over the place after a diet of just eating white chocolate bars for a couple of days. That's the thing, like kids run away and they like get their provisions together for the run away and it's not healthy, it's not a balanced diet. Did you ever threaten to run away as a little kid like before he had the means? No, I ran away but like I ran down the block, you know.

I never made it at the driveway. It's weird, huh? Shocking. As hard as it was to take childhood to me seriously and running away, how hard was it to take this guy seriously with this tight red overalls? When this guy gets up to walk out, I'm like, this guy, what? What the short sleeves come on?

Yeah, I think this was a miss in the wardrobe department. There are hundreds more like me. I thought it was also a miss on Tricote's part to be like, we're gonna tell them what you did. Like, yeah. The guy wants a asylum. Like, yeah, don't narc on him. Fuck the head.

Fuck, not cool. Yeah, fine, I'll consider it. So Tricote and Janeway have a weirdly romantic meeting where it seems to be like they're having either breakfast or dinner, because it's kind be like they're having either breakfast or dinner Because it's kind of like moodly lit Like it's it's either the beginning of the end of the day and they're they're talking about like the rumors and what Juppek says about it's just many bowls of different broths in front of Janeway

Yes, she has like broth banchan in front of her. This is why you can't tell what meal it is because I have broth for breakfast and lunch and dinner. And then they kind of transitioned to talking about the descent among their own ranks. Here you can. And like why did Janeway rip him so violently the new asshole that she has ripped him? Yeah, well, like where is this coming from? Is it a general feeling about this form of disobedience or

is this a punishment tailored to a Harry Kim specifically? Yeah, and Chicoate is like, I know that I really like overreacted by turning that guy into the authoritarian regime that he lives under in the previous scene, but in this scene I'd like to pitch you on going a little bit easier on Harry Kim. Yeah, I mean, not only does that pitch fall on deaf ears, they fall on the ears of a captain who is instituted a policy of hard segregation between the Varro and Starfleet. The Varro will be using their own replicators. It will be better if they are separate but equal.

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Janeway tries to smooth things over with Jipek, who is as unhappy as you'd expect him to be for what happened between Kim and Tal, and something very interesting happens here in the dialogue, which is that Jipek tells Janeway that the effect of the glowwort is such that sometimes the vero die from separating from their lover. And I kept expecting this to be a part of the story.

Yeah. Maybe Tows Life is in danger? Never brought up again! Or Ensign Kinz and like, yeah, he's saying like, you don't know what you're messing around with here. Like when you guys shove off, like, she could fucking die, man. I wanted life-threatening stakes on this episode so bad from here. And when they were gone, it's like phantom life-threatening stakes.

Like, I'm projecting onto it. They make it down to engineering where BLT and 7 of 9 have figured out why the micro-fractures. The micro-fractures are coming from synthetic parasites, and they have a little ultra-close-up of these... dance-and-little virus guys that are going around on the hull, messing things up. It hardly seems newsworthy that they have very low confidence in the intelligence that these were created in a lab. Right, yeah, it's like, they have this as a theory and it gets leaked.

Like, why even put it in the report if you have that low confidence? Right, and it's like, nobody else is persuaded by the things that gave you some confidence. Yeah, yeah. Weird. So, Jipek is incredulous about this sabotage on his ship. I don't think so. No fucking way.

Back in Tows' quarters, she gets a call from Kim. She's like literally flicking the bean to an image of one of these parasites on her iPad when she gets this call. Yeah. What is she into? Yeah. She's into Kim when he beams her to a shuttle,

Kim's made up some excuse to get extra time in one. Like this is engineer shit, estimating an amount of time to fix a problem that you fix very quickly so that you have extra time to fuck an alien. Hahaha. Is that what Scotty was doing all those years? Scottie did this all the time. And he wants to fog up the transparent aluminum

in the shuttlecraft. He really does. I must be crazy. I like you, crazy. He's fucking dick drunk. Like he's so, he's making such like unrational decisions at this point. Like just doing everything in defiance of what he's so, he's making such like, unrational decisions at this point. Like, just doing everything in defiance

of what he's been ordered. He cannot control himself around this girl. He does that thing, he just falls in love too fast. This is why he can't keep a relationship going on Voyager. All the ladies on Voyager, like, jeez, Kim. Like, we're keeping this light and fun. Yeah. We're halfway through a movie in a dinner

and you're talking about like plans for next year. What are you? We can't move in together. I don't even know your last name. He also just knows that the way to any girl's heart is to take her for a drive in your Subaru Brat, right? And also like this is out of the Picard Playbook, right? Take her to a window with something pretty outside.

Yeah. Really floods the basement. There's so much data. She loves that. This is... This is so frustrating to me because like, where's the banging? Ensign Kim? What are you doing?

She's like, all interested in hitting buttons and flying the shuttle and like seeing other places. And her interest in science is maybe the thing that floods Kim's basement. Don't stop. You're beautiful when you're scanning. He's psyched about how into science she is. And he's also paranoid about being discovered. Like, the real thing going on here is like, was this worth it to take her out to do science? We're not even fucking. This hardly seems worth it at all if I get caught.

Yeah. And get caught he does. Like, she's sort of like, almost in the middle of seducing him when they get nailed by two Valk and the Delta flyers. His brains totally scrambled. Like, he's a rule follower through and through, seducing him when they get nailed by Tuvac and the Delta flyers. Brains totally scrambled. Like, he's a rule follower through and through, but what happens

when the rule becomes pleasing that booty? It's like Robocop getting contradicting orders from OCP. Right. Yeah. It's the booty pleasing trolley problem, you know. Best title, legendary title. You know, like, like, when you find the the rare herb in the open world video game, like, you just unlocked. Yeah, it's glowing purple, so you can tell. So when they get back to voyage, your tallies and big trouble,

Jepek has hauled her in front of him a Glockflin group if you want to accuse her of sabotage because he found a schematic for wooden shoes in her personal database. The evidence is pretty damning. her personal database. The evidence is pretty damning. Yeah. And her parasites are chewing specifically on the linkages between segments, because like the ship is mostly made up

of these habitat pods. And it's a big lung, like... It's an elegant string of pearls configuration. Yeah. You want that, would you drop one? Hey, and if one of them hits the floor, yeah, that is bad news bears. But yeah, so she's one of these dissidents. She's part of this movement that has been discussed.

And she wants the freedom to leave if she wants. She's trying to dismantle the ship. And they're like, cool, cool. Like your political opinions are kind of irrelevant to us, the crew of the Voyager, but we're stapled to the side of this thing. And it's going to explode if the linkages get broken when they're pressurized.

You know what I like about this scene is that it's not revealed that Kim was duped by Tal or used by her. Like their relationship is sincere. And he wasn't a mark. Kim was duped by Tal or used by her. Their relationship is sincere. And he wasn't a mark for this whole plan. And I like the restraint that this episode shows and not doing that to him.

I feel richa co-tay, they would totally pull down Chico-tay's pants in this scene and laugh at him. They're not gonna do that to Anton Kim. No. I think that there's probably a temptation to explore it in that way. The idea that she just liked him because of the novelty of an outsider and her natural attraction to novelty is why she has this political view and also why she was attracted to him

And it's nothing about him personally, but I don't really get that sense. I think she actually likes him personally You know how we never get to explore the nebulars? Well Down there in Ensign Kim's pants is sort of a Nebular of pubes And I've been all up in there. Yeah. It's a metarion pubes nebula, if you will. Jipek rides for the original text, you know? And I got to say, as anti-originalist as I am in general,

he does make a heart-breaking case for the idea of like, you know, my grandparents helped build this ship. And like, if we blow all of these pods apart, they would, like, that would be upsetting, right? Like, all the work they did. Yeah. We're trying to go places. It's all ruined because you want to fuck ins and Kim.

Like, that's a bummer, right? And like, are you willing to kill people over this because it's not just about making your point for the future mission of the generation ship? It's like, this is dangerous if stuff starts breaking that we can't fix, it's gonna kill some people. Yeah, I wish they'd dealt with that a little bit more because this does happen, spoiler alert.

Yeah. And I didn't hear anybody saying like, you know, three casualties from that one or whatever. Yeah. But what she wants to do is as unilateral as what Jepek wants to do. Like, it's either like a hundred percent altogether or a hundred percent broken apart into a million pieces.

There's no like a medium broken apart. Yeah. It's so binary, it's like, it kind of has to be one or the other. Tall agrees to help evacuate the sections that are most affected by the damage as kind of a compromise here, but it's not like Tall is ordered to

and accepts the order to kill the parasites or stop her plan. Yeah, like this is as far as she's willing to go. So everybody clears out and it's just Janeway and Kim left in the room and there's a really amazing one or that goes from the conference room across the bridge and into Janeway's quarters that goes from and into Janeway's quarters that goes from Janeway basically saying like, Ensign Kim ought to be in the brig and the only reason he's not is because he's in love,

but he needs to be treated for that love condition in Six Bay to the middle of the bridge where he is fucking yelling at her. Captain! I told you to report for treatment. I don't want treatment! Outrage that she would try and order him to do something

like that. And following her into her office, I didn't know that these sets were all connected like this, but the camera can go all the way through. I think you can be a really big fan of the show and miss this sequence because the performances are so strong. Like it, the performances are almost too good and that it obscures the greatness of the sequence because this is not just flat ground. You and I have done this a million times. You're on an airport runway or an office building or a factory and you're just steady camming along

flat ground. This is up over the hump in the middle of the bridge of the Voyager and back down again and through a door on either side without running into things, without bumping the steady cam in a way that would make you have to retake the shot. And you're staying with Garrett Wong long enough while he really delivers this emotional performance here. while he really delivers this emotional performance here, once you get to two with Ensign Kim and he's delivered all of this dialogue,

it's an amazing bit of business. And the camera work is more complicated than that, even, because they're pulling focus back and forth between him and Janeway the entire time and getting closer and further away. It is tack sharp the entire time. It is an incredibly dynamic sequence. It's great.

It really serves the emotion of the scene because there is a huge peak of conflict between them. And man, like the choice as a director to block a scene like this is really intense because these performances have to be good for this scene to work and you're raising the stakes so much by having a really, really complicated camera move in here where you can't hide a performance thing with an edit and you can't hide a camera mistake with an edit either like everything has to work flawlessly. And this is a very long uncut thing that works. When you're shooting for TV on a TV schedule, you can't just assume that you will have time to get this right. Yeah. You need to be sure that you have the time to get it right. Or maybe you're shooting for the edit anyway. Like, maybe you get a couple of these and you think you have it, but how do you really know until you're screening the footage?

Right, because they have to go develop this film now. That's what I'm saying. I also think too that like in this series specifically, there have been so many technological advances in effects work. Yeah. That it is neat to be reminded of a flex that this show can do that is just all about skill, production skill.

And having the right people in the right departments for the right moment. And this is an example of that. Like, they could have done this on another episode and another scene, but like, the right combination happens here for this moment and it's worth celebrating, it's great. It really is. Yes and fair.

You know, the U.S.S. Do it, you know, you can't do it. You can't do it. You can't do it. You know, the U.S. Do it, you can't do it. You know, the point that Kim ends up making to Janeway

toward the end of this scene is like, if you were lovesick over somebody and somebody said you could go get a hyposprae for it, would you do it? And she doesn't really have a moment to respond because a banger gets dropped and this is the micro fracture problem boiling over. For me, Ensign Kim, my methadone is Chicoete. All I do is have regular meals with him. And it makes me not miss Tom Irvans at all. Have you considered Chicoete for your problem?

No, it would be great. Like Captain, why are you forcing me to just hang out with Chicoete a lot? I hardly know that guy. And he's my boss. And he's very disappointed in me. I think my boss is boss. So they go back out on the bridge

and girders are like flying away from the vero ship. Chunks of them are hitting Voyager and they like can't unclamp themselves because the docking controls are offline. Scary effects, huh? Yeah, and Ensign Kim, like, was in the middle of being confined to Six Bay for the rest of the mission, but his utility at the op station is great enough that Janeway asks him to go up there and help. Just like him, Tal is also temporarily not in the huge amount of trouble while the emergency gets dealt with. We cut back and forth between the Vero bridge and the Voyager

bridge as they deal with this as the vero ship kind of like comes undone. Where you bumped a little bit by the reversal on Kim's punishment and his being ordered to a station right before the moment where it's Kim's proposal that is taken for action about extending the structural integrity field around the vero ship. Yeah. Did you feel a little bit like around the vero ship. Yeah. Did you feel a little bit like he couldn't be trusted for his opinion in that moment because of just moments ago describing how fucked up he was over his love for Tal. Like maybe he would risk more than you ordinarily would

in order to try to save Tal's life. Yeah, I mean, that's, I think, why Janeway says, is that your idea or am I talking to your clarinet right now? JPEG wants to take advantage of their temporary enhanced structural integrity that the Voyager is providing by doing another energy sweep to try and kill more of these parasites. sweep to try and kill more of these parasites. And Tal persuades him to let the disaster continue so that the Voyager can get away from the ship before they get damaged by more of these girders. Why don't they just bury on sweep the space ball one? Yeah, I don't know. They're going at this all wrong.

Because they have to get everybody off, and that's like the last thing they want, right? That's why. Yeah. Yeah, and a tau saddle is over on the voyage, isn't it? Right, right. It's perfect and normal. And a most serious riders do have that own saddle. So we see all of the pods kind of coming away from the ship

and then when we come back, like, we're getting the captain's log. Well, the pods that have all been separated are a little fleet now and some of them are Bandings together and staying together as a fleet But others have decided to go off and do their own thing. Yeah, and talz is one of them She's gonna go do stellar science like she always wanted to yeah, she's gonna Explore different nebulous now. Yeah, and different pubes. I was a little bit surprised at how easy it was for them to say goodbye to each other.

Like they're still glowing for each other. They haven't been apart that long. And this is one of the things that confused the idea that maybe Tal was using Kim. And whether or not that's true, I thought the bond was stronger than this. But I mean, the strongest force of all is Tal's instinct for exploration, I guess. Yeah. Like that's more interesting than any dicking that Kim could do, right? Yeah, it's her duty to explore that booty. Right. And this is the moment where I really thought we get a call back

to whether or not this was life threatening. Yeah, she just kind of tosses it off like, oh yeah, there's medicine for that shit. I'll rub some dirt on it. It would be so interesting if the stakes were framed in that like I want to explore so much I would risk my life to do it. It would be so interesting if the stakes were framed in that like I want to explore so much, I would risk my life. Yeah. To do it. Yeah, I like that punch up. Yeah. Yeah. And Kim's like, well, the next time you see a cloud of poison gas in space, I hope you think of me.

If you run across a nebula that seems to be offering you everything you ever wanted. If you run across a nebula that seems to be offering you everything you ever wanted. Yeah. You know, one of the playful things I do after love making is the Mutaran oven where I just pull the sheets up over our heads and a rip one. Gross. We catch up with Harry Kim in Six Bay, where the doctor has been trying to persuade him to take love with drawl drugs.

And Harry just wants to feel the feels. Here is an emo mix tape. It's really done me a service, you know, when I had to break up with the Vadien girlfriend I used to have. The captain is really surprised that Kim is no longer her golden boy. And I liked this scene a lot, like the discussion of Janeway having had this kind of special protective instinct around him. And I'm saying, like, I've been on your ship for five years. Like, I'm not the slack, jod,

rub that walked on board at the beginning of this series as like a first time bridge officer. I've got a lot of experience under my belt now. I'm an evolving person, which is, I think, a conversation that a lot of people have to have with their boss, you know? Or a parent figure. Yeah.

Because that was the tone that I detected from this. Like, she's felt protective and motherly of him, but now that I see you as a virile, sexual person, this whole situation is changed. Because that's part of it too, right? It's not just that he disobeyed orders. It's that he disobeyed sexual orders. Right. And she gives him a shoebox full of rubbers, like a residential assistant and a dormitory.

She's like, you can take these rubbers out of this shoe box and just blast in here. That's what she says. I don't like to think about that. Sorry. No one should have to think about that. The button on the episode is Kim having an after hours bum out in Nielix's restaurant and gets paid a visit by seven of nine who retracts her prior statement that love is a disease. Yeah. And that to her, there's some nobility in the risk, right? She's learned that sometimes pain don't hurt in the love department. Sometimes pain can be pleasurable in certain circumstances as long as there's consent, and that she can get on this level.

Interesting that there is no, like this is a very friendly, compassionate moment. This is like a solid thing she's doing in being there for Kim in a dark time. Yeah. And it's not loaded up with the immaturity of an ensign Kim to be like, oh, hey! Like, ready to rebound with her?

I love that. Right. It's not like the only cure for being love sick is motorboats and some big ol' boobs. Yeah. I'm glad that it's more of a squared off. The only cure for being love sick is motorboats and some big ol' boobs. Yeah, I'm glad that it's more of a squared off, like professionally kind moment, instead of Kim trying to rebound. Because it also represents emotional growth for the character of Seven. Yeah.

Yeah, take off your clothes. Exactly. Good little ending, but was it a good little episode, Adam? You know, I'm really easy to get along with post-review time. But I don't like bullet, I don't like friends, and I don't like you. It's funny, like, when this episode starts like gathering steam, it sure feels like, hey, Alcat, what did Kim stick his dick in this time episode? Because there have been a couple of these.

Like this is a microgenre inside Voyager. Totally. And I thought I'd seen all versions of that before, but I really love the moments between him and Janeway are so strong in this episode and give it such a different feeling that I think it makes this one greater than the rest for that reason. I thought it was a strong episode. I mean, I'd rather do something else for an episode of Voyager, like this type of episode isn't necessarily my favorite type, but of the microgenre, I think it's one of the better ones. And it made me think a lot about how Star Trek series depict romantic love and

crush love specifically. Like that Ashley Judd character was sort of the apotheosis of hot girl nerd dude, star trek relationshiping. And like no Star Trek episode could ever rise to that. I think maybe because Ashley Judd was just so like of her own universe. Right. And because I think you specifically saw yourself as a Wesley Crusher figure for a long time, I think that probably hit especially hard. But like, you know, way to keep going for it, Star Trek,

way to give us different versions of this. Yeah. Because it feels like a very real type of thing to happen on a voyage like this. So that's right, Matt, with it. What about you? I generally agree. Yeah, I think there are a couple of missed opportunities in this episode.

Like we talked about the stakes of it being like lethal to break off a steamy romance for these people and they like, yeah, that just don't say it if you're not going to do anything with it. Yeah, and it would have been such an interesting moment. Like, how could Kim have ever predicted that he was like putting her life in danger by pursuing a romantic thing with her? That's such a heavy, interesting idea that,

yeah, it feels like the episode would be way better if that line was just clipped out. Yeah. If it was all about the pleasure of the glow and not of the, uh, the danger of its absence. Yeah. And, uh, I think that the repressive society, repressive, because it has to be society of the chip is also really interesting and a cool idea that I think they did a really nice job with. But yeah, I think overall I really enjoyed the episode. Hey, that's great. I'm happy to hear it.

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Wow. Wow. That was a little hew-houser, doesn't it? Yeah, you got a little California's gold with your reaction to that. I am very excited about next week's episode. It sounds fun looking forward also, because it's the Max fund drive next week and

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And I think you're going to like the difference. Hmm, I'm excited for it. And I'm also always excited to thank all of the folks that already support and thank some of our staff and collaborators. Of course, we've got to thank Wendy Pretty, the producer and editor of this program. Got to thank Bill Tilly, the card daddy. Got to thank Adam Ragusia, who made our original theme music and dark material, who let us use the

Picard song years ago. Now all of those folks greatly appreciated Nick Dittmore who made our show art and helps us out with PodShop.biz. Hey all of the artists who have helped us with merch on PodShop.biz. Miriam artists we've worked with over the years. Totally. Have helped us put great things in there. Indeed.

With that, we will be back at you next week with another great episode of Star Trek Voyager, an episode of the greatest generation Voyager where Adam and I start coming apart at the molecular level. Oh, finally. We're not even drunk. Finally, sweet release. You weed pieces of shit for breakfast? No!

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