The Greatest Generation - The Brone Zone (VOY S4E4)

Episode Date: June 20, 2022

When Chakotay crash lands among the trunks, he strays into the fullness of a clash against The Kradin. But in the soon after, he’ll have wrestle his trembles in order to nullify the nemesis or be nu...llified himself. Are there any university athletic programs dedicated to specific muscle groups? Why was Chakotay in the black book? Is pre-warp the same as pre-blow out? It’s the episode that steers clear of the trunks!Support the production of The Greatest Generation.Friends of DeSoto for Democracy.Friends of DeSoto for Justice.Follow The Game of Buttholes: The Will of the Caretaker!Music by Adam Ragusea & Dark MateriaFollow The Greatest Generation on Twitter, and discuss the show using the hashtag #GreatestGen!Watch The Greatest Generation on Twitch.Facebook group | Subreddit | Discord | WikiSign up for our mailing list!

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Starting point is 00:00:00 Priority 1 message from Starfleet coming in on Secured Channel. Hey friends of Disodo. Before today's episode, we just wanted to take a moment to talk about the historic labor actions being taken by writers and actors in the American Film and Television industry. If you're a fan of the work done by the people who make Star Trek, we hope you'll join us in standing in solidarity with the folks who actually bring these adventures to life. Over the past several years, the AMPTP, the organization that represents the American Film and Television Production Studios, have reduced the profit from movies and TV going to workers. And in so doing,
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Starting point is 00:02:25 Boardhead, Captain Captain Captain... Boardhead, Bringing one of the U.S. Welcome to the greatest generation... ...the Star Trek podcast by a couple of guys... ...who are a little bit embarrassed to have a Star Trek podcast. I'm one of those guys I'm Ben Harrison. I'm Adam Pranica. Last time, on the greatest generation.
Starting point is 00:02:43 Yeah, we did something bad last time on the greatest generation. Yeah, we did something bad last time. We landed on a Neelix's galley episode. Is this two drunk assos since the cocoa no no that you skipped? Think so. Yeah. The last Neelix's galley I poured my champagne into a coconut. Right. And I don't think I'm breaking another rule today, but we had champagne so recently.
Starting point is 00:03:09 Right. I was like, I'm just gonna get a different bottle. Okay. No one's saying tilaxian champagne is effervescent. Technically, tilaxian champagne is not champagne because it's not grown in the champagne region of France. It's tilaxian sparkling wine, I get it. It's Tlaxian metode traditional. So what I've grabbed instead is a bottle of red wine.
Starting point is 00:03:32 Bottle actually pink wine by the looks of it. That is a nice looking color. I think I've had that bottle. That label looks familiar to me. Yeah, I think we've had it together. And it is chilled because I could go for something thirst quenching like a cold wine. So that's what I'm having. I'm having a 2020 California table wine called Super Blue. I'm having a natural wine, natural mente frizante.
Starting point is 00:04:01 I want to be clear mine is natural too. How the Italian style Petilon's natural and I don't know anything about this, it's just an Italian bubbly wine that is unfiltered. I'm a little worried about opening it because I walked home with it from the store. It was in Darwin's mouth. I didn't get an explosion. I lucked out here. I'm enjoying my wine in an insulated cup. The way the makers intended.
Starting point is 00:04:34 When consumed properly as Sir Edmund Mailbar once wrote, it can elevate the soul. You and I were in Texas recently. Yeah. We went into the flagship store of the Yeti family of products. Oh, we sure did. And I spotted a cooler that I thought looked really great. I just wanted this cooler so bad and then I found out how much the cooler cost.
Starting point is 00:04:58 Are you secreting the cooler right now? Is that why you're putting this out into the universe? You want this cooler so bad? I have not been able to stop thinking about this fucking cooler this cooler cost $800 I can't justify it, but I also can't get it out of my head. There's no way I can spend $800 on a cooler Ben you need the best cooler in the world to store all that milk need the best cooler in the world to store all that milk. Hahaha.
Starting point is 00:05:24 Hahaha. Baby, I gotta keep your milk at the right temperature. Hahaha. This is the only thing that'll do it and check it out. It's quiet, clothes lid. Means we won't wake each other up at night when we're reaching in there. It's gonna be, it's gonna be perfect. This is what we need.
Starting point is 00:05:41 Tell you what, Ben, that, this is how the baby industrial complex works. That cooler, probably an $80 cooler than any other store. You label it as a breast milk cooler? $800. And now you can buy it. That's how you get it past the budget goalie of your household, Ben. Milk cooler. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:06:01 I don't need a cooler. I don't need a cooler at all. You can't store breast milk in that cooler, Ben Yeah, I've seen that cooler. It is unfit for breast milk Much much like us drinking drinking wine. I've started have you started? Yeah, I've started We didn't even toast to the show. Hey, here's to the show. Here's to, here's to have in another. Here's to you.
Starting point is 00:06:28 Hey, Darwin, don't lick my wine bottle, man. Darwin's usually pretty trustworthy around this stuff, but uh. Well, Darwin's also eight. Yeah. Seven, come on. Your, your dog is as old in years as my dog is in months. And that explains a lot about the difference. You the different start catching up pretty soon, I think. Hope so.
Starting point is 00:06:49 Well, I am ready to nullify this bottle, Ben. How about you? We'll find out, I suppose, over the course of this episode, whether these bottles are our nemesis or not. Right. I really enjoyed the terminology used in this episode, Ben. It's Star Trek Voyager season 4 episode 4 Nemesis
Starting point is 00:07:09 Reaver course unless you've got something a little bigger in your torpedo toots. I'm not turning around It begins on a very valverde planet, huh? Figures shrouded in mist and shadow creep through the jungle with rifles. Yeah They catch someone they catch an interloper. You know what the most dangerous game is, Ben? Chico Te. Yeah. Yeah, so they grab this guy, Chico Te. They take him back to their team leader. What's the guy's name? Brone? Yeah, he's entered the Brone Zone. I take it you in charge here. Team leader, Brone, Fort Boy, defense contingent. I gotta get a pump.
Starting point is 00:07:51 That's it, get it. Oh speaking of Brone we should have some brodes. Oh shit, good call. Chico Dez entered the Brone Zone, we've entered the Brone Zone. You're about to hear the tellings of our show. Glimps this motherfucker. There's a very jargony big dogging happening here between Brone and the dudes that grabbed Chico Te. Yeah. And he's like, hey, why did you grab this guy?
Starting point is 00:08:20 We have more none but the Nemesis, man. Did you grab this guy? We have more none but the Nemesis, man. That's not so fun about this lexicon, is that it's both military jargon and surfery in a weird way. I really like it. Yeah. I wish we got a four episode arc here
Starting point is 00:08:41 where we could live in it a little more because I know I'm gonna forget it immediately after this episode. Oh, no. But it's also like, it's one of those episodes where you're like, God, every alien should be like this. They should have like weird ways of putting stuff and like the jargon is amazing. And it's so thoroughly developed in every line that one of these guys
Starting point is 00:09:00 others, they say it in this weird way. Hmm. His glimpse is too tame to be a cradon. I hadn't found him that, sir. Well, find him it now. And it's funny, like, it's the jangly keys of the episode, right? Because if it were just Chicoote getting caught up in a war on an alien planet, we've seen that episode before.
Starting point is 00:09:18 But it's this additional layer of these jangly keys. Like, it's basically a jangly thesaurus. That kind of gives the whole thing a fresh new spin. Yeah, you drill to fathom the nemesis, but you don't need to drill to fathom what these guys are saying. It's like a magic trick that it is all in this weird specific jargon, but it's also all perfectly understandable to us, the home viewer. So the story is this team leader, Brown, of the Brown Zone. He's like, welcome to the Brown Zone, Chico Te. Here's what's up.
Starting point is 00:09:52 We are the Vori, and we are fighting the Craten, also known as the Nemesis. Also known as Crady Beasts. And we like to be buried face down. This is maybe the most important part of our culture. We'll show it to you later. Getting buried face down is like the main shit that we love. I'm super busy right now as leader of the Bronze Zone. So I'm going to pass you off to this Tate Dott of Unlooking Guy.
Starting point is 00:10:17 Name, name him. And I'll catch up with you a little later. All right. Peace out. Chico Te is crashed. another fucking shuttle, Adam. This is three episodes in a row for a lost shuttle, bye bye, cow. Yeah, I mean, he was like curious about some Omicron radiation.
Starting point is 00:10:36 These guys tell him that the Crade didn't definitely shot him down because the Crade and Crave air superiority. I was excited to see that air superiority a little later on. Chico te happened to crash in Grove Yellow, which is where the grown zone predominantly. The grown zone would have been if Chico te had parachuted out of a shuttle and landed in a tree branch with his leg spread. Spread. That's it. That's it. That's it. That's it. That's it.
Starting point is 00:11:05 That's it. That's it. That's it. That's it. That's it. That's it. That's it. That's it.
Starting point is 00:11:13 That's it. That's it. That's it. That's it. That's it. That's it. That's it. That's it.
Starting point is 00:11:21 That's it. That's it. That's it. That's it. That's it. That's days. And she goes, he's like, hey man, I don't have that kind of time. I gotta get on that radio real quick. And he's like, well, I recommend you sleep here because it's really fucking dangerous up in them trunks.
Starting point is 00:11:39 You think when the Vory talk about swimming, it's a very complicated conversation about shrunks versus board shorts and the netting and so forth. The Vory kind of seem like speedo type, spoke to me. You know what I really craved in this scene, Ben? Is they're talking on and on about how Chicote
Starting point is 00:12:00 can't communicate with the ship? You never get the tap. The tap with the blurp, you know, like the thing that tells you that the communicator can't communicate with the ship. You never get the tap, the tap with the blurb. Yeah. Like the thing that tells you that the communicator doesn't work. Team leader, Brode of the Bronze Zone, he doesn't know what that symbol is that he's wearing.
Starting point is 00:12:13 He touches it when he's telling him about it. My communicator's not working. If they just dropped the sound effect in when he touched it. That's what I'm saying. That would have liked that. Yeah, that would have been good. I noticed the same thing. Brone passes Chico Te off on Ray Finn,
Starting point is 00:12:31 who is a total noob played by that guy from Starship Troopers who was trying to be a journalist and asked everybody in the co-ed shower scene what got them into the military. It was gonna be so nosy. What, I'm the bad guy, I'm going to be a writer. Wow, good poll. It was dark, but I recognized him right away.
Starting point is 00:12:50 He's got a great face. He really does. He is new to war. Yeah. He's never seen their enemy in person. You mean he's never glimpsed their enemy in person Adam? Right. He's not glimpsed through his glimpsors
Starting point is 00:13:06 at the enemy through the trunks. He also says that they call him Rayfin, which is like, ooh man, if that's the nickname you get when you join the military, that's kind of brutal, right? It's not good. Namin is born to get hard unlike this Rayfin guy. And Rayfin's got the trambles, and thatund guy. And Rayfund's got the trembles.
Starting point is 00:13:26 And that's going to be hard when you're out among the trunks. You don't want to go into the trunks of the trembles. They don't still transcribe this show on the network, do they? Because this is going to be an insane transcription. Maybe worth looking for that to see if they still do. It's an interesting conversation because they kind of talk about who the nemesis are, the creative beasts. And, you know, like, these are the people
Starting point is 00:13:52 that they would like to send into the way after. They can, Chicote is clearly uncomfortable with the way they describe these guys as being like incredibly gross and like, you know know intentionally biasing and you can you can see his discomfort. Isn't it interesting how Starfleet makes you kind of both sides the situation as a reflex because that's what Shikote is doing here?
Starting point is 00:14:21 And interesting that like so much of this terminology is shared later on by the crew of the Voyager, and it doesn't seem like they have both sides to anything in the way that Chico-te is, because he's like sitting there eating their food and talking to them about what it's like to be a Vori. And he's like, I'm sure that there's a guy in a trench on the other side of this war that's just as afraid of you, man.
Starting point is 00:14:48 Right. The warrior not familiar with this as a concept. And like what they describe is like really brutal war crimes, right? Like when crazy beasts come through their settlements, it's like craven brutality. They're doing far more than glimpsing of their wives and their daughters, that's for sure. Yeah, nullified bodies facing up.
Starting point is 00:15:10 It's awful, what they're describing. And when Chico Teh tells Naman that war is a kind of nonsense, the dissentries behind them, Naman takes great umberage with this. Don't judge us, like we're in this awful situation. These guys did this to us. It's basically the energy that every single one of these guys have. It's the next day, and Naman and Chico Te are trying to find the wrecked shuttle.
Starting point is 00:15:38 This is the mission, because Chico Te believes he can use the pieces of it to communicate with Voyager. That's not going to happen when they find basically a shingle, and that's it. So one hit of shuttle that they find. Unfortunately, it's not the communication shingle that they hope they'd find, and it's useless. That's pretty rough. A couple of crazy beasts come over a berm
Starting point is 00:16:00 while they're looking at this thing and open fire, and these guys look like they've got quite a bit of grampa. I like their look. I feel like most aliens should look this way, but so few do. Most aliens should look like they're sick at DomJot. Yeah, I mean, I feel like the the craten should be fighting with DomJot, you. So the one guy gets nullified. Yeah, Naimins down. He spilled a lot of blood, face down in the muck. The rest of the squad runs into the clearing and clears out the remaining crady beast.
Starting point is 00:16:41 And then they have to grieve. They're falling comrade. And we get to see the and then they have to grieve. They're fallen comrade, and there's a, we get to see the, the ceremony that they perform to us, and this dude off into the way after. There's something so visually striking about taking a thing that we've all experienced or seen or understand as going a certain way and changing one minor thing about that to make it seem alien.
Starting point is 00:17:10 The idea of a body being made to be facedown after death is so alien feeling. If we went to the funeral of a relative, a relative who subscribed to a religion that we weren't super familiar with, and we go participate, we do the thing, and we sing the hymns, and we do the whole procedure. And when it comes time to do the burial, if they just kind of flip the box upside down, how shocking would that be? That would be intense, man. It really would. Because you know you'd hear the body kind of drop to the other side of the box. Like, there'd be a rattle.
Starting point is 00:17:53 There'd be a rumble inside that box, Ben. Better than falling out the bottom of it, right? Yeah, you could have that. No explanation. Just body after body, bustin' out a shit-wooden-hittin' pavement. So they lay name and to rest, the Vory Berry you face down, ass up, that's the way they like to bury you. Yeah, he's got his ass in the air and his mind in the gutter. And Chico Tay asks them what kind of shrine they got, and very respectful of the ways of, uh,
Starting point is 00:18:28 of this different culture. Chico Teas wandered back into the Bronze Zone. Team leader, Bronze, Fourth Morin Defense Contingent. I gotta get a pop. That's it, get it. Bronze is like, hey man, you gotta, you gotta change into this dead guy's clothes because that fucking red mantle on your On your shirt is really kind of eye catching It's gonna get us glimpsed and then it's gonna get us nullified. I know we look like humans
Starting point is 00:18:55 But I want to tell you something two things make us completely alien as the Vory one The various face down as up as the Vori. One, the Barius face down, asked up. Two, we do not evacuate our bowels in death, which means this change of clothing is gonna be a-okay for you to get into Chico Te. Absolutely no uriner feces in the pants part. Sounds great.
Starting point is 00:19:23 They even did not brando to portray his death scene. Gotta say it's nice seeing Chico Te wearing the deep you, right? Yeah, it's a big you on Chico Te and more like, more like University of Pectoral Muscles, right? Hell yeah. High five through the screen. University of Pect muscle athletic department. XXXL. Coming soon to podshop.biz.
Starting point is 00:19:55 So Chicoote gets sent off to learn how to shoot their guns with rafan. And it's like, rafin is supposed to drill Chicote on the use of their weapons, but it turns out Chicote drills Rhaifin on a phathoming rages. Right. And then the slash fiction, they drill each other.
Starting point is 00:20:15 It's a scene that's about trembles giving way to rages. You start out in war with the trembles, but then you get, you're born to get hard rages After a little while and what Chico Te says he really inspires Rayfin to do the same having the trebles is natural Rayfin is so fucking psyched by this. He's like, fuck yes! Yes! The Trimble's gonna become Rages! Ah! Ah! This is the scene where you knew Rayfin was gonna die pretty soon, right?
Starting point is 00:20:54 Yeah, Rayfin is not gonna have a great time when he comes up against the gromba. Keep your top low and your glimps wide. Action happens pretty fast because that night, the vory around patrol and Chico Tefine to body. And God damn it, those fucking bastards turned his face up. They desecrated his body. They left him upturned to be cooked by the glare.
Starting point is 00:21:18 And if you think this makes you, well, feel a little bad, there's an entire seventh contingent behind the tree line, and they're all facing up. Those motherless, creating beasts. Oh, it's so gross. Oops, all up facing. Yeah. This is the guys that they were supposed to be meeting up with.
Starting point is 00:21:38 The guys that had the comms equipment that Chico Te was gonna use. So it's like, complete disaster. Brone sees us onto this moment. He tries to turn this into kind of a group Bronnzone situation. He uses the awful moment to rally the troops, but the problem is when you enter the Bronnzone,
Starting point is 00:21:55 it's a loud place to be. He's really getting hyped up. He's jumping around and he's yelling at people, but he's too loud. And we're not gonna swallow it! Never again, D.K we're not gonna swallow it! Never got the energy from the mouth of the man! And you know what that's gonna do, Ben? It's gonna draw the enemy fire from the Cradon.
Starting point is 00:22:13 Yeah. And that Bronze Zone gets shut down. The Cradon start licking shots. They don't even get to find out who wins... ...Okey Rally moment. Uh-huh. Okey Bronze Zone. to find out who wins Ooki Rally moment. Uh-huh. Ooki Brown's own.
Starting point is 00:22:26 Hahaha. Hahaha. Because soon after, they're in full-on jungle combat. It's like a Vietnam film. Aren't you proud of Reifen here? He's got the Rages. He doesn't have the Trambles. It does have the Rages.
Starting point is 00:22:41 He's kind of Kevin Dillon in platooning at this point. Like, he's got the psychopathy of the Tom Barenger character, but none of the skills of the Tom Barenger character. Oh yeah. You're a lot of people walking around like that. Yeah. BT dobs. Yeah, so RSVP, Rhaven, and Chicote does him right, you know.
Starting point is 00:23:04 He helps him plank before he shuffles loose this mortal sphere. Tell you what, like ordinarily you'd see someone messing with a body and rolling them over and you'd think something fucked up was about to happen. That's not how it goes on Planet Valverde. So, after this awful night of running and gunning in combat, Chico Te, the next morning is stumbling through the jungle by himself, and just wanders into a totally defenseless
Starting point is 00:23:42 village. Welcome to La Hanna's town, make glory, Defender. You're brightly greeted. It is a town of blowout hairdo. Like, everyone has been blown out. The old people, the middle aged, the young, and people that, you know, the blowout would have made their hair look better have also been teased. It's just a hair metal band living and aging together in the jungle.
Starting point is 00:24:09 Chico Te is so blown away by this. He just collapses and joy. Finally, he's safe. Yeah. And finally, we see the Voyager. Yeah. That is up in orbit of this planet. Yeah, that is up in orbit of this planet. Unaware that Chico Te has made it safely to L'Aurana settlement. And the captain's log is referring to a ambassador that has told them that the people on the ground are looking for Chico Te in the middle of this war.
Starting point is 00:24:42 And we cut to him a glothwin group. It's your watch! It doesn't seem like the captain has ever been are looking for Chico Tay in the middle of this war. And we cut to him a Gloucetwen group. It's your walk. It doesn't seem like the captain has ever been in direct contact with this ambassador. No. Definitely. She's been told about this by TuVoc and Kim and Paris.
Starting point is 00:24:56 And Nielix might actually know this guy. Yeah. That was the other thing was like, she asks Nielix, like, what's the deal with this conflict? Like, tell me about this war as if Neelix didn't tell us already that that we've reached the end of his knowledge That was the thought in my head and Neelix's response is like telling from the perspective of like Yeah, like this is what the ambassador told me. Are you bullshitting us Neelix?
Starting point is 00:25:22 No, I think you just got it from the ambassador. All right. But I think that it's an interesting moment because it is ambassador to ambassador, right? That's kind of the role that Nelix wants to inhabit. But that's how ambassadors function. And this is the scene that put me really on edge, the way they are speaking very uncritically about the like savagery of the enemy, that the ambassadors people are fighting, like they're using all the same terminology, like their nemesis are bad and they do bad things and desecrate bodies and shit, but it is so non-specific that it made my spidey senseless tingle. It made my spidey sense, it was tangle. As specific as it gets as the idea of,
Starting point is 00:26:06 if Chicote just hooks up with the correct side of this conflict, he's gonna be taking care of. There's coffee right in the middle of the war zone. Yeah, train is like, hey, listen, we're gonna find this guy, the second he connects with our people, we're gonna radio up, you'll know where he is, it's gonna be fine. He's not in the trunks anymore, he's in the blowout town.
Starting point is 00:26:27 Speaking of the blowout town, Shakote is communicating with this old British man that seems to be sort of the town elder. Right. He keeps calling him Shakote. Yeah. I feel like this actor wasn't familiar with the program, decided on a pronunciation for the name that you had in the script and nobody on set corrected him. My nuttiles the truth, Chico-te. You are welcome among my neighbors.
Starting point is 00:26:54 I love this moment because everyone's trying to confer a valour to Chico-te that he feels uncomfortable accepting. He's like, look guys, I will eat this bowl of good and plenty because I am hungry. But I don't want it to be because you feel like I'm some sort of hero or whatever. I'm not a glory defender, I'm just a guy. Right. Don't try to be a glory defender. Just be a defender.
Starting point is 00:27:20 It's rhetorical nonsense. And when the conversation turns toward what happened to the fourth regimen? J'co-t'e demers. He's like, yeah, those guys are the heroes. And that's about all I wanna say about that. There's a moment in this scene that made me so uncomfortable because the group is,
Starting point is 00:27:45 is they are talking to him and asking him a bunch of questions. And this lady asked like, anything else you crave, like food, warm clothes, anything, anything you crave, and they leave. And then the little girl that gave him the like flower necklace comes in and I was like, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, don't go there episode do not yeah and then the camera pulls back there's like a wooden sign nailed to a post and it says camp
Starting point is 00:28:10 Epstein how did they know why was Chico Te in the black? It's a much more innocent scene than that. This girl is very curious about her big brother, Dario, who is a glory defender. And she's heard all the horrible stories about what the the Crady Beast do when they nully her people. But Chico Te is not really willing to participate in the racial degradation of the Kradin, who's like, yeah, it's true that they don't share your beliefs
Starting point is 00:28:52 and they don't respect them. Nor is he willing to totally crush this girl's spirit by telling her that definitely her brother's dead. Yeah, her brother has totally bought the farm. Not only is your brother dead, but he's facing up in such a way that is spectacular. Like, they put him up on a table. You wouldn't think that it was possible to face this far up. This summer, you will believe.
Starting point is 00:29:20 You can face up like this. Perfect black, make it yourself. I'm trying to help you see this as an opportunity to grow. Make it yourself. Spoiler alert. But like, this is maybe like the most biasing moment for Chico Day. Yeah. Like, and one thing I really like about the script of this
Starting point is 00:29:37 is that he starts more and more to kind of take on the Argett of these people. Yeah. And use it more and more. And like he's like clearly resisting it in this scene, but I think after this scene that wall has kind of broken. What do you make of the significance of using contemporary firearms as weapons on this planet?
Starting point is 00:29:59 I don't know if it's like a pre-warp civilization or if it's part of the ruse. Yeah, I don't know if it's like a pre-warp civilization or if it's part of the ruse. Yeah, I don't know either. Anyways, the next morning, they're like provisioning him and they give him like a Manhattan portage shoulder bag and letters for soldiers as he's walking out of the village. And Marna gives him like a really deep kiss. Like the kind of kiss that like drags some saliva out.
Starting point is 00:30:30 Mm-hmm, there's a good 13 inch strand of saliva between them before it breaks. So he trudges off into the trunks away from this. Again, totally undefended and defenseless village. Should a merch item that we eventually sell on the new PodShop.biz be swim trunks, but the pattern is trees and jungle. And they are trunks trunks. I mean, I don't want to even think about how complicated it would be to do that. Could the package be like a tiny box with a latch on it so that you get your trunk's
Starting point is 00:31:14 trunk? Is the pattern on these swim shorts, trees and elephants, so it's trunk, trunk, trunk. It is, isn't it? Your best will be enough. How much of your bottle of, when have you drank? Let's see, I've got that much left and. Oh my God.
Starting point is 00:31:50 And like, oh, but you're, yeah, you're drinking out of like a pint glass size insulated. I've got like a half of a pint glass left and then maybe three fingers of wine left in the bottle. This always happens. I drink as fast as I can when it's this format. It's only the wine shows, though. Like, I mean, maybe this is why you didn't participate
Starting point is 00:32:11 in the cocoa no-no, is you didn't wanna drink rum that fast. Maybe that's what it is. Remember that time that you just didn't do the cocoa no-no? That was wild. Peppered farmer, members. So, Chicago Day is in the forest when he sees air cover going down back at the town he's just left. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:32:33 Pretty cool to see just like some alien space planes. They sounded like harriers to me. Like the sound really sold the whole thing. Yeah. Really cool. Yeah, and when he gets back, the crazy beasts are rounding up all the all the people in this town. Chico Te is like, you know, lining up a shot. And that's when the crazy beast set on
Starting point is 00:32:56 him and he has taken prisoner. Of a no opposition, are you being nullified? Unvoyager, we're in Janeway's ready room and they're optimistic that Chicoete has survived the crash But that doesn't mean he survived the war zone and Paris is aching to go down there and play out his Rambo 2 fantasy. He wants this so fucking bad. He is so eager for the fray Is there anything about him that suggests that this isn't a surprise? Like, he's more born to get hard than I expected here. And he and Shikote aren't even close.
Starting point is 00:33:34 Like, I would expect this if it were Kim behind there. But what does he give a shit about Shikote for? I know that Paris like technically joined the Mayquise for a minute. I don't really get the sense that he became war. I don't get the sense that he's expendable either. And that's kind of a quality that you need, an emission leader here. And that's my two-box jumps right in there.
Starting point is 00:33:58 Yeah, he's like, hey, the, uh, the whole boots on the ground thing, I think, is probably a terrible idea. I think we said one, and specifically not Paris. I have been invited to many parties, and the people who throw those parties have not cared if I had shown up or not. I have no interest in living the quiet life. A greatest-gen live show is something you don't want to miss. Why? Well it's a great opportunity to see
Starting point is 00:34:45 me and Ben in person, but that's not all. FODs from all over gather at these shows to cosplay, to do pre and post-show hangs, to make friends, and share their embarrassment. Hey, let's make a pretty great name for a tour. Let's do it! The Share Your Embarrassment tour is coming in August 2023, and we've got a bunch of dates, in a lot of great places. Go to GreatestGenTour.com to get more info. That's GreatestGenTour.com for dates and ticketing information for the Share Your Embarrassment Tour. I'm Jordan Morris. And I'm Jesse Thorne. On Jordan Jesse Go, we make pure, delightful nonsense. We were open awesome guests and bring them down to our level. We got stupid with Judy Greer.
Starting point is 00:35:29 My friend Molly and I call it having the spaceweirds. Pat Noswald. Could I get a ball rock burger and some air-gorn fries? Thank you. And Kumail Nanjiani. I've come back with cat toothbrushes, which is impossible to use. Come getupider with us at MaximumFun.org. Look, your podcast apps are already open, just pull it out, give Jordan Jesse Goat try. Being smart is hard, be dumb instead. Oh, rats, hey, hey, oh, I'm about to count you in line. These clouds are really freaking me out. I hate having to stand in line, and boy, what do I?
Starting point is 00:36:02 These giraffes do not smell good. No, they do not, and they've such short nacks. But I'm hearing we need to get on this. We've got to get on the art. It is about terrain, about a spout to destroy humanity. Hey, oh, sorry, sorry, sorry. Are you Noah? Yeah, I know we look like humans.
Starting point is 00:36:16 We're actually, we're podcasters. We are podcasters, so it's different. Have you heard of Ono Ross and Kerry? We investigate spirituality, claims of the paranormal, stuff like that. And you have a boat and say the world's gonna end, so seem like something for us to check out. We would love to be on the boat. We came to by two.
Starting point is 00:36:32 What do you think? Ono Ross and Kerry, available on MaximumFun.org. I've got to get that luck wood knife, he's setting on it. Gold. That would not be setting on ice to gold. So down on the planet, Chicoetay and the girl from the village are in some Star Trek caves where they are being held prisoner. Can I just call her Lil Blowout? Pfft.
Starting point is 00:36:59 You can see a written in crayon, right? Yeah, for Podchop that biz should we market a hair dryer, a graiss-jent branded hair dryer, if we're making a little blowout haircut? A little blowout. Look at her. Look at little Karia, a little blowout. Chicote trying to talk some sense with the Crayden Guard, but the Crayden Guard are
Starting point is 00:37:21 cruel. They're bad people. This is one of those prisoner prison guard situations where you can't ask a question because if you ask a question, you're gonna get a rifle butt to the face. This is much worse than Rura Pente in a lot of ways. It creates something in Chico Te,
Starting point is 00:37:36 that you really want for the rest of the episode, which is bleeding out of both sides of his mouth. Yeah. It's a striking look. And he's gonna give up on the project of like fucking with the crane for a little while. Yeah, until the next morning when gunfire is their wake up call. And when they go, they go out of the tunnel to like see what's going on. It turns out that this Star Trek cave was like right on the edge of town. It's convenient
Starting point is 00:38:04 really. And he sees the craden like, you know, rounding people up, getting ready to take them to like extermination camps. Yeah, because what's explained here is that the old can't work for the craden. The way the youths can. Yeah. And Karia takes great umbrage with this because her grandpa is being marched off to get shot and you made a terrible mistake, Caria, because you're going to join grandpa here.
Starting point is 00:38:33 And this is something that Chico Te can't allow to happen. Get me out of here! He instigates a Star Trek fight to try to stop it, but he's just one chakote and he gets knocked out. I mean the craden are better armed now. The craden look like they shop at the same places in Quizator Kira. I like that. You lose the Star Trek fight. Back up on Voyager. Janeway and TuVak go to greet the ambassador. Ambassador Treen, come on, let's go, let's go see what's up to this guy. Everyone's going to greet. Ambassador Treen, a helpful man who just wants to be helpful and cool.
Starting point is 00:39:11 Yeah, can't wait to meet him. Can't wait to give him some of Neelix's food. I hope his gromba is normal. I hope he has a mouth that works with our utensils. I hope he sucks at Dom-Jat. that works with our utensils. Hahaha. I hope he sucks at DomJot. The ambassador and their contingent beams aboard and... Oh no. They're cradins.
Starting point is 00:39:34 What? It's a bunch of cradins. I like how we cut away, like right now. You don't even get to react. There's no Janeway react here. No, Janeway's only reaction is like a a shake of the hand. It's so neutral that you can't tell if she's in on it in some way like if this is part of it Yeah, we kept back to the surface of the planet where Chico Te is in the process of having his corpse
Starting point is 00:39:59 Desecrated. Yeah, he's face up and he's tied to the ground Does desecration only happen to dead? Or can you be alive and desecrated? Post-vector would say, I'm not worried about it! There's worse shit on the local doos! I mean, he's like in the process of dying, I think, when he reenters the Bronze Zone. Yes. Team leader, Bronze, Fourth Morin Defense Concentration.
Starting point is 00:40:22 I gotta get a pop. That's it, get it. Brother, you just reentered the Bronze Zone. leader, bro, and Fort Boyd defense contingent. I got to get a pump. That's it, get it. Brother, you just re-entered the brone zone. This is the thing about, bro. You're gonna make bubbly wine go out of my nose, man. And really, all of the Vory, you're casting for looking great at a tank top. Yeah. Because God damn it. Brone has got like arm goals.
Starting point is 00:40:47 You tell the truth on your name them beasts. He isn't super jacked, but he is someone who can pull off a tank top. He has a sinewy shoulder that is well developed. Right. He rescues Chico Te, gets him untied, tells him about like all the fucked up shit that has gone down with the townspeople and and how all of the defenders have been nullied at this point.
Starting point is 00:41:12 Chicoetay's got a choice. He can go to the command post to contact Voyager or he can stay there and keep doing make-we-shit with his new friends. I love the choice of brone giving him a water bottle to sit from because every time he like delivers a line he then takes like a yeah a contemplative sip like a dumb torreto like journa king of corona while talking about family level sip from the from the canteen and he's
Starting point is 00:41:41 speaking the language now too which is great. That can wait till the soon after. In the now, you need my hope to nullify the nemesis. They both want to avenge Ray Finn. I wanted the scene where Chicoote ripped the sleeves off of his deep you. Show those fucking pipes Chicoote. It's just going to be the two of them. It's Chicoete and Brone versus the Cradens now. I don't like their numbers.
Starting point is 00:42:11 It's sorta like two bucks, right? Like a small, a small commando contingent could like do a lot of damage here. Right. So they're up to some like real serious like deep dark jungle combat at night time wasting cradens. They never do the cradens the way that the warrior done, right? Like how do you think they prefer to be buried?
Starting point is 00:42:35 There's no burial quid pro quo or whatever. Quid pro cradens? Yeah. They're surrounded by Crayton. Broan catches one. Don't let Broan go into that, Broan, good night. It's just, we're down to just Chicoete.
Starting point is 00:42:52 You know, Broan's taking the Broan's own with him if he's off the map. Sad. Yeah. A single Crayton appears, and this is unusual, right? Yeah. Steps out from the jungle and he's like,
Starting point is 00:43:04 hey, Chicoete, I'm Tufac. Chicoete is unusual, right? Yeah. Steps out from the jungle and he's like, hey, Chico-te. I'm Tufac. Chico-te is like, what? That's impossible! That's not true! No! And then Tufac slices off one of Chico-te's arms. And, and, and, and, and, and, and, and, and, and, and, and, and, and, and, and, and, and, and, and, and, and, and, and, and, and, and, and, and, and, and, and, and, and, and, and, and, and, and, and, and, and, and, and, and, and, and, and, and, and, and, and, and, and, and, and, and, and, and, and, and, and, and, and, and, and, and, and, and, and, and, and, and, and, and, and, and, and, and, and, and, and, and, and, and, and, and, and, and, and, and, and, and, and, and, and, and, and, and, and, and, and, and, and, and, and, and, and, and, and, and, and, and, and, and, and, and, and, and, and, and, and, and, and, and, and, and, and, and, and, and, and, and, and, and, and, and, and, and, and, and and, and, and, and, and, and, and, and, and, and, and, and, and, and, and, and, and, and, and, and, and, and, and, and, and, and and and, and, and and, and, and, and, and. And, and Bronn, not having died. Bronn is like,
Starting point is 00:43:27 you're still in the Bronzoan man. That's it. Get it. Don't believe him. Don't trust him. Let him die. And the longer two Vox speaks, the more Chico Te is starting to believe. And there's kind of a visual thing happening here too, right? Yeah, the kind of the shimmery illusion Falls away intermittently and reveals not a craden face
Starting point is 00:43:52 But a two-vac face in a craden uniform. Did you think that this was Tim Russ in Craden face? I couldn't tell. Because I found it very difficult to tell if it was him buried under all that loaf. Because his voice sounded really different, too. They've buried what you commanded. I actually did research. I wanted to figure this out.
Starting point is 00:44:14 Yeah. My research was face down. When the illusion falls all the way away, Chicoate is like horrified. The two vachas come into this conflict wearing craden clothing. Yeah. It's like how can you dress up like you're in Quisitor Kira. Tuvac, I hate to see you go but I love to watch you leave. The story is crazy. What Tuvac is telling Chicoote is that nothing Chicoote has
Starting point is 00:44:42 been through that day was real. Yeah. It's how the Vori create radicalized soldiers. Yeah, and he's like, hey, I think we'll fucking prove it to you. Walk with me. In order for you to believe me, you must depart the brown zone. They walk through the jungle and they find...
Starting point is 00:45:00 The village of the blowouts, right? Yeah. And Chicoete walks in and has like the identical experience. Yeah. Again, where they just greet him as everybody's there. Nobody has been rounded up and taking to an extermination camp. It was all a shirad, Ben. Chico Te has been frame of mind.
Starting point is 00:45:22 If only Picard had been here to put it that way. Chico Te has been frame of mind. If only Picard had been here to put it that way. Chico Te has been future imperfected. Yeah. Chico Te and Tuvac depart the Bronze Zone and on Voyager in Six Bay, Chico Te is back, but he is not better. Like, physically he's okay, but mentally he's toss salad and scrambled eggs.
Starting point is 00:45:47 And the duck, the way the duck describes him. Well, maybe I hear the cradon calling. The duck is like, try to imagine the brown zone being a place where you just get a couple of handfuls of pills out of the fish bowl, and you just take them to the dome. That's what Chico De has been doing. It was a recruiting mission. You've been subjected to a highly sophisticated form of propaganda.
Starting point is 00:46:14 You want us to sew amway? They'd like drug them up. They like subjected them to simulations, and like, there's like a bunch of different propaganda techniques working all together to inculcate him into this way of life where all you wanna do was live in the brun zone. Oh yeah, once you're in the brun zone, that's the only place you wanna be. Yeah, and it wasn't personal,
Starting point is 00:46:40 it was like he fucking crashed on this planet and they were like cool fresh meat So weird they saw him in the Bradstile shuttlecraft Up in high orbit and they're like how about that guy? Yeah, see how he does in the brown zone Team leader brome Fortmore defense contingent. I got to get a pump That's it get it Loki one of the best parts of the script of this episode is like when he starts asking about like desecration and Jane was like, I don't know man, like it's a war. I'm sure
Starting point is 00:47:12 fucked up shit is going on on both sides. Yeah. Like she kind of joins that both sides thing before Ambassador Treen comes in. It's so crazy. They bring in this ambassador. Isn't that a good choice by anyone involved? Who chose this? No one should have done this to Chico Te. Don't make him shake hands with with a fucking guy that looks like that. Yeah, I don't blame Chico Te at all for this. He was just moments ago in the Bronze Zone and you expect him to just get used
Starting point is 00:47:45 to being outside of it. Now, it's a pretty beast as far as he knows. Yeah. It's a parable about hatred at him. They won't let you walk away from that. It's right in the end of the episode. Yeah. Damn. Damn. Janeway follows Chicoate into the hallway, and it's like the end of first blood. Janeway's trying to figure out Chicoote, and Chicoote is like, Chicoote. Nothing is over. Nothing.
Starting point is 00:48:17 You just don't turn it off. Well Adam, was it easy for you to stop hating this episode, or was it too easy to start? You know, I'm pretty easy to get along with post-opestive. But I don't like bullets, I don't like bread, and I don't like you. I love this too. Ben, I really like this episode a lot. I have a feeling that this is an episode that is very unpopular with people.
Starting point is 00:48:42 Oh, interesting. But for the same reasons that people would dislike this episode, those are the reasons that I like it. I like that this is a sick, twilight zone kind of sci-fi twist on a war movie. Yeah. I like that it's Chicoete, specifically because I feel like he's not had a lot to do lately and now he's the A in this story and I enjoyed watching him experience this awful situation.
Starting point is 00:49:11 I love the guest stars on this episode. This seems like a uniquely strong episode in terms of guest stars because there's like six of them that really jump off the screen and are interesting and feel like they're fully realized. Like if you were to go off in the story with any one of them, I feel like you could get a good 15 minutes of stuff out of them. I really loved it a lot. What am I, I mean, season four is all about seven and nine, seven and nine, not here.
Starting point is 00:49:41 Not even in the episode, doesn't show up one. I wasn't even thinking about Seven of Nine. As long as I was in the Bronze Zone, I couldn't think of anything else. Wow. What about you, Ben? Yeah, I like this episode too. This episode has, I've seen it maybe two times before this,
Starting point is 00:49:57 but I didn't quite remember how it resolved. I mean, the thing that has always stuck with me about this episode is the like incredibly richly realized culture of the of the Vori. And like, I think that it's Star Trek really living up to the promise of Star Trek in a way like showing like an interesting like we don't know what the Vori even look like. Like that's the amazing thing is like when you think back and you're like, oh, like they look human, they only look human because that benefits them in
Starting point is 00:50:31 Chicoete's eyes. Like they, like it, it helps their cause to turn Chicoete into a soldier if he thinks that they look just like he does. Yeah. And I think it's a, a really terrific episode really terrific episode and I like it a lot too. I think it's good. Yeah, I really do. This was super fun. I think if this episode gets invited to a party and it doesn't show up, it's a big deal. Yeah, this episode is not expendable, that's for sure. Well, Adam, do you want to see if there's anything in the priority one in-box for this episode of the greatest generation?
Starting point is 00:51:09 I'm almost at a wine, so... Ah, yeah. Priority one message from Starfleet coming in on Secured Channel. Need a supplement on it. supplement? supplement? supplement? Yeah, it's extra.
Starting point is 00:51:23 The interest alone could be enough to buy this ship. Adam, our first priority one message is of a promotional nature and it goes like this. Do you think they're disappointed if you're doing a promotional one when they land on the Drunkasood Landmine? You entered the Bronze Zone, promotional P1 purchaser. Kavya Lemptor, sometimes that happens.
Starting point is 00:51:50 Here's the message, Ben, Adam. I am contacting you from the past. I'm caught in a quantum time travel maguffin. Episode 300 to be exact. I've been listening to you almost exclusively in my painting studio for over a year catching up on Batcadilog and realized it was about time I showed some fellow creatives some support. So here are 267 Canadian scarves. Thanks for this dumb show, it's great.
Starting point is 00:52:23 A bit of you too are in my work, not in that way gross So now FODs go buy some of my art and Now this is tax deductible Good call. I just went over to earthskyart.ca and I'm looking at this art right now and This is art that I would totally put up on my wall. EarthskyArt.ca is what's being promoted in this promotional P1, and you can get 15% off any print order with the code Quantum in the Special Instructions. EarthskyArt.ca.
Starting point is 00:53:00 You know what I'm really enjoying? The Turbulent Sky Series. I'm a guy art.ca. You know what I'm really enjoying? The turbulent sky series. I haven't glimpsed it yet. I'm just opening it up in my browser right now. Really cool. This is great. EarthskyArt.ca. I like it a lot.
Starting point is 00:53:16 It's really good stuff. Yeah. Very beautiful. Yeah, get in there. Anybody that is making a living as a painter is really cool by me. And it's amazing to hear that we are the sole inspiration for a visual artist like this.
Starting point is 00:53:32 Like that Jay needs us to do his art. Yeah. And is just incredible. The responsibility I feel to do a good show for Jay. We gotta do better. We must do better at him. I think if we got better, I mean, Jay's painting is already great. Jay's painting would improve if we got better, I think.
Starting point is 00:53:52 I can't see how this painting would improve. It's really cool. I'm just, I'm clicking through paintings on this, on this website. They're so beautiful. Yeah, Jay, we're going to talk later about getting one of these up on the wall. Yeah. I think it's important. Then our second priority one message,
Starting point is 00:54:10 it's from Jonathan Tinker. It's to Nathan Tinker. Okay. And I have a throat bubble, I'm trying to get out. The message goes like this, Happy Birthday, Dad! Woah! This priority one message comes from Jonathan,
Starting point is 00:54:24 sending you all my love and support. I think you're the coolest dad in Starfleet. Whoa. Nathan, with a happy birthday gift to his dad, how many fathers and sons do you think listen to our show? When I heard that there were two last names in common, I was betting brothers. Yeah. Lots of brothers, I think.
Starting point is 00:54:44 There was a total twist. I didn'tding brothers. Yeah, lots of brothers, I think. There was a total twist. I didn't expect it. This is that meme where like, yeah, they had us the first half. I'm not gonna lie. Hahaha. That was like when Ambassador Treen materialized on the Transporter Pad,
Starting point is 00:54:58 I was like, what? I know. Adam, our final priority one message is from Jason G and it is to DC, Sam N and Brad B and Adam and Ben. Oh, whoa. I think we know who these people are. I do, yeah, we do, for sure. Goes like this.
Starting point is 00:55:15 Sam and Brad, I can't thank you enough for introducing me to the pod. Just saw the Milwaukee show. Amazing. Including your P1 for me regarding Brad's obsession with McRibs. Ben and Adam, viewing this pod has gotten me through many dark days and nights, driving to jobs I hated.
Starting point is 00:55:36 Keep up the amazing work. Congrats Sam on your wedding, screw flanders. Wow, this one was intended for more proximate to Sam's wedding date, April 17th. Which happened to be the date of our DC live show. You and I met a ton of Sam's friends at that wedding reception, which we went to after our live show in DC. Yeah, yeah. And Jason G, if you're anything like those that we met at the wedding, you gotta be great.
Starting point is 00:56:05 I mean, that was like a highlighted the tour for me was meeting a bunch of Sam and friends. And a big fun all around. I'd say it was fun to go to that reception and have people recognize me and like not recognize them. It was weird. Well, thank you to everyone who got a priority one message. And if you'd like to get one, you can get it right now by going to MaximumFun.org slash Jembo Tron. Set it up today.
Starting point is 00:56:34 What's stopping you? Yeah, you don't need a wedding to do it. Any excuse will do. Maybe you're an artist. Yeah. Or you're getting married. Or you have a dad. Or you don't have a dad. Any permutation of that is perfectly acceptable by us. Yeah. Hey Adam. It's that, Ben. Did you find yourself a drunk Shimoda? Drunk Shimoda! I feel like this episode was full of them. Really. And I think the character that I just couldn't, I mean, we've referred to him so much, so much
Starting point is 00:57:13 so that he's got his own zone. I take it to your in charge here. Team leader, Brown, Fortmore, defense contingent. I gotta get a pump. That's it, get it. This Michael Mahonen guy who plays Brown, couldn't take my eyes off of him. And it's not just because he had pipes.
Starting point is 00:57:34 I mean, there was just something about his relationship to Chico Tay that was really exciting. And it's got to be so hard to audition and get the role of guy fighting a war and then be given a The Sores next to this trip like I know you think hey congratulations you got the part also you're gonna be talking in some sort of weird Unrecognizable The Sores speak here. Yeah. Hope you can get with it. And it had to be so hard not to laugh during these takes, because the vocabulary's ridiculous, but he makes it believable. And I think this whole episode hangs on Brown.
Starting point is 00:58:19 And I'm in the Brown Zone, man. I think that's what makes him my Shimoda. What about you? I think it's a similar reason. I got to give it to Rafe and another excellent practitioner of the language that the Dvorie are depicted as speaking. I think that the reason he worked his way into my drunks remote a slot on my notepad was just that moment where he's like so fucking pumped about turning his trembles into rages is just such a special moment
Starting point is 00:58:58 in this episode. And the script math of he is fucking doomed at that moment is so apparent in that in that scene that That it only makes it more tragic Yeah, so he got my drunks remote at this time and I'm pouring the last of my wine into my glass Yeah, I'm working on my last also last whining it Do you know his character name and starship troopers was Kitten Smith? I saw that when I looked him up on IMDB because I was like that's the guy from Starship Troopers and I just wanted to like double check before I
Starting point is 00:59:35 said it on the episode. Yeah. And right before we started recording I like IMDB Starship Troopers and I was like K kitten Smith. Okay. Did not know. Got the life of an actor is just so interesting. Like I'm looking through Matt Levine's IMDB and it's like 2010, 2013, 2017, 2020. Like fuck. Yeah. He's really good. He's really good. He's really good. He's really good. He's really good. He's really good. He's really good.
Starting point is 01:00:07 He's really good. He's really good. He's really good. He's really good. He's really good. He's really good. He's really good. He's really good.
Starting point is 01:00:15 He's really good. He's really good. He's really good. He's really good. He's really good. He's really good. He's really good. He's really good.
Starting point is 01:00:23 He's really good. He's really good. He's really good. He's really good. He's really good. He's really good. in four episode five is called Revolion. Belana and the doctor respond to a distress call and come to the aid of a malfunctioning hologram. Sounds like a jab for the doctor, right? Oh yeah. Hey Doc, fix this. Doc!
Starting point is 01:00:40 You made a malfunctioning hologram? I have a character on Voyager? Are we gonna get more 709, do you think? Yeah, maybe. It would be amazing if they just set 709 to the side and went back to Voyager episodes as usual. Just for like a long time. We'll see you at the season finale.
Starting point is 01:01:03 So. Just for like a long time. We'll see you at the season finale. Wow, well I'm gonna head over to the game of but holes Will of the caretaker and Set up our Board game. Where are the top rope and? We're in the 90s now. We could hit a space butthole that would take us down to an n-sickery episode, which would require us to do tons
Starting point is 01:01:33 and tons of research and find lots of real facts out about this episode. Oh, God, please don't let us do that. People always love those and never get mad at us for the facts that we find out. I do not want that. You're required to learn as you play. Roll.
Starting point is 01:01:51 We've been rolling a lot of sixes lately so I wouldn't be totally shocked if that happened. Alright. Roll the bone. Oh, but I rolled the four. Tula! Did I win? Hardly. So we're on square 96.
Starting point is 01:02:07 Nice. This is a regular old episode next week. This puts us one roll away from a Mornhammered episode. It feels like we've been doing a lot of drinking lately, Ben. I know. This has become a very drunk show, the greatest show. I know, but one thing we've learned about the show lately is that the Mornhammered it's not a guaranteed thing like you don't have to do a Mornhammer to get back to the bottom of the of the game
Starting point is 01:02:33 You know what we should do we should put another square on the board Called the brown zone And here's what you do the The entire episode, you're doing curls. Wow. Hahaha. Curls or like shoulder press, like whatever it is, you just keep it in motion. Just keep working out.
Starting point is 01:02:56 The whole time, you don't take breaks between your reps. Maybe you're squatting. Like you're squatting. You're up to the mic, you're squatting. You're down here, you're back to the mic, you're doing it all. you're up to the mic you're squatting You're down here you're back to the mic. You're you're doing it all go ahead and veto that idea I think that's a terrible idea and we'll make for bad pot prone zone belongs on the board just as much as the one where you're making a fucking macaroni plate model Come on
Starting point is 01:03:22 It's just as valid as that brown zone I Could be persuaded, but I think it can't be also kick the traveler off of there. You know it belongs on there. Hey nerds Wow, we've got some edits to the board game. All right, Felipe if you're listening some interesting Directives coming down from Adam today, I think these are good ideas. Ehhh, some of them are. Ha ha ha.
Starting point is 01:03:53 Come on, man. Enter the Bronze Zone. All right, well, I'm looking forward to next week's normal ass episode. I'm gonna drink the last of my glass of wine right now. Wow, yeah, this has been a great app. I love a wine drinking app. I think it's better than the champagne app.
Starting point is 01:04:13 Wow. Or the sparkling wine app, I think. Well, mine was sparkling, but it wasn't champagne. So, I mean, like, fuck you. Delicious. I can tell. Next week, normal episode. Thank you. Delicious. Next week, normal episode. Thank you too. Adam Ragusio made our amazing theme music.
Starting point is 01:04:32 The Card Daddy who runs our social media at greatest trek. Wendy Pretty who produces this program. Nick Dittmore who makes the art. The Miriam friends of DeSoto who gather in all the places using the hashtag greatest gen. They're also on the discord at drunkshimodo.com. They also came out to see our live shows in droves. True. So happy to see so many friends of Disoto out there. Maybe we're promoting a live show at the beginning of this episode. I don't know. We don't know.
Starting point is 01:05:06 So much could happen in between now and when this episode comes out. We're recording a month ahead. You could be in the live show's own. Yeah. Brown up. Or grown out. This is a good show that I'm proud of. It's been a lot of fun.
Starting point is 01:05:22 With that, we will be back at you next week with another great episode of Star Trek Voyager and episode of the greatest generation voyager that would never put on a knife strap on, ever. This episode was fun until that part. What do you do, Will? The next episode as the guy from Seven that does that. In it. Yeah. It wasn't his fault. It was fucking Kevin Spacey's fault, he's a fucking monster!
Starting point is 01:05:49 This a terrible person in the movie and in real life! Cool, but you know what really helps the end of this episode a Kevin Spacey reference? Hmm, yeah. He really dug deep to play a dirt bag in that move. We really need to hit stop before you make it somehow worse. I'm ready to go back to the Bronze Zone. Yeah, why did we ever leave the Bronze Zone? That was a mistake.
Starting point is 01:06:22 Let's just turn around and head for the Bronze Zone. Yeah. What if we just started reviewing Star Trek and Reverse from here? Yes. And what if we were just doing Bicep Curls during? I'm not really willing to work out that much. I'm done! Do what you want!
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