The Greatest Generation - The Good Chills (S6E4)

Episode Date: April 19, 2017

When a dustbuster club gets on BART, they find one old rider who’s had some of his own Entrepreneur adventures. Now they’ve got to find a way to help this hopeless old fit in with their hip new ship. Where does the rubber meet the worldbuilding road? What job skills wouldn’t be obsolete after several decades? What did Guinan think her job was when everybody lost their memory? Was that a dip to black or a dip to commercial? Its the one with the green podcast fluid.

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I'm your other host, Adam Pryanaka. Adam, I'm having a green drink to celebrate this episode. Oh really? What's your drinkin'? I'm drinking some VEP Chartruse, the fancy stuff. Whoa! Yeah, friend got me that for my birthday this last year. One of the one of the kinguliest gifts I have ever received.

That's a nice gift. My wife really likes chartreuse, and I've had my eye on that bottle for a while. I know it won't be spoiling the surprise because she's not listening to the show. I feel like she used to listen, what happened? I think she has transitioned into a on-and-the-background for solidarity, like for wife wifely support sort of thing,

but I don't think she truly actively listens. I could say anything right now, Ben. At least your wife supports you, Adam. Oh, that's sad. That's a sad joke, Tag. My wife is proud that I've found some dumb thing to keep myself entertained, but doesn't care to take her interest in it past that.

Anything to keep your mits off of her? Ben, we got some mail lately. Oh, really? You're always getting the mail, but this time I got one. Yay! You want to hear about it? Let's uh, lay it on me, brother. Captain, I'm sorry to disturb you. I'm receiving a code 47. Verify? It is code 47, sir.

Starfleet emergency frequency. Captions eyes only. Came in a very official looking priority priority mail envelope do not bend its screams and I didn't I did not bend it all the way from Paduka Kentucky letter goes like this bottoms up hope my drinking game catches on greatest genus such a delight to listen to keep up the awesome work stay funny and thirsty From Brittany Brown aka Shitty fan art did his love child drinking game girl Brittany Brown is the one who came up with the drinking game that's on Facebook. Yeah, that a bunch of people piled on to the game little get you killed And she is included in with her letter a Very fun picture of the both of us.

As this game catches on, our download numbers just start to fall off until nobody listening. What happened? We've experienced a parasitic loss of listeners that we can't explain. Yeah, we got a nice picture in here too that she drew of the both of us and we are both looking like very fancy lads I said this to her I believe on the Twitters and I'll say it again on the air Maybe my favorite likeness of myself. Yeah, I saw this picture. This is a this is a really nicely nicely done pick Yeah, I showed this to my wife and I was like, Hey, you think I should grow my beard back and she said,

No, sir. That's a great like this and everything, but I have to live with it. That's great. Thanks, Brittany. Yeah, thanks to La Prenny. Super sweet. That's great. Paduka Kintucky, perhaps not on the East Coast tour list, though we may be getting to nearby environs.

Yeah, is Kentucky technically considered an East Coast state or a Midwest state or what? Wow, I've always considered a East Coast, but I guess now that I think about it, I guess it depends on if pedukas in the shaft or the base of the state of Kentucky. I don't know where that is. And after the shaft or base, it's all KY. Yeah, it's a state that's big enough.

Big enough to get the job done. Yeah, well, thanks for sending that in, Brittany. I think we should be close enough. I'm gonna hazard that we'll be close enough. Yeah, yeah. I think so. I think we'll be seeing you later on in the summer. Well, speaking of things that are big, Ben,

we got a great big episode here. We do indeed. Great big episode got a great big episode here. We do indeed. Great big episode with a great big thing in it. Season six, episode four. Relics. ["Personal Truths of Best On Truths"] Atm, the entrepreneur is picking up a distress signal from a ship that went missing 75 years ago.

It is from the USS Genolan. Adam, the entrepreneur is picking up a distress signal from a ship that went missing 75 years ago. It is from the USS Genola. It's like a bus, right? It's like a... It's not like a starship. It's like a... It looks like a... a barc car. Let's derail it and it really got out there. It's been missing for 75 years and they're entering this system and they get a banger drop down them and they're like, what the fuck?

What's dropping bangers on us? And they just, they just looking at us instruments and he's like, well, look at this. There's some kind of gravitational field on us. What could that be? And they start looking around. They get it up on, they get the center of the gravitational field up on the FaceTime. And it's just this gray ball in space. Yeah, it really looks creepy.

One of the most arresting images that we've gotten so far on on Trek. Yeah, data throws out that like the, it's massive gravity has obscured the sensors and that's why they didn't pick it up. But holy shit, it's enormous. Like, it seems like it would be a huge problem out there. It is enormous Adam. They say that it's got the diameter of Earth's orbit around the sun. It's fucking huge. I'm a big bright shining star.

How many things have run into this thing accidentally? Like, besides the Genolan, you think it would be pockmarked with ships. Mmm. Or like asteroids or whatever. Yeah. Um, yeah, that's a good point. I mean, that said, it's a, so. I mean that said it's a So it's it's a thing called a Dyson sphere could this be a Dyson sphere, which is a not something that Star Trek invented It's like a Freeman Dyson concept and this is like a

kind of a fanciful version of what a Dyson sphere would be I Think the original concept of a Dyson Sphere was that it was like lots of space stations essentially. Yeah. Not like one solid shell. A lot of space stations lose suction. Like in the middle of the process,

and this one appears to be like a fully realized version with cyclonic action. Yeah. It will never lose suction. It's suck the gentleman right in. realized version with cyclonic action. It will never lose section. It's suck the gentleman right in. Yeah, well like a real planet and not Pluto, it has cleared its orbit is what I'm saying. So maybe they, maybe like the people that were advanced

enough to build this thing, like got rid of all the crap in the system that would have hit it. It sure seems like whoever built this were super technologically advanced. Like, it would have taken many months to build this thing. Yeah, I mean, I think that the, I kind of had like a vague memory of reading about this, like this concept. I think that the idea that Dyson had was that it was like a species can be graded in its

technological proficiency based on how much of the sun's energy it's capturing. And by the time you've captured 100% of your sun's energy, you're basically, like, unthinkably, technically advanced. So that's the idea here. This is like an alien species that's stupendously advanced from a technological standpoint, I guess. Now when you build in a Dyson sphere, you're going to want to use it to harness the entirety of the sun's energy. I like to build a Dyson sphere no smaller than the equivalent of far more in ears. We're building our Dyson sphere using triple-pained windows that have nitrogen gas in between the pains. Some people use argon, we're using nitrogen. As long as you're using an inert gas,

it'll keep the cold out and the warmth in. You'll low your heat bill for generations. Yeah, there is so much fun to be had with a setup like this. And the show pivots almost immediately into character, right? Yeah. It gets away from the sci-fi part pretty fast here. Right, so they beam a little dustbuster detachment down to the Jenolyn. And they're like poking around on the ship.

And it's like, it's pretty beat up and the air seems stale. And the only thing that's really working is a transporter system. And what they discover is that there's something in the pattern buffer, which I guess is unusual for a offline ship. And they go ahead and turn the knob,

and there's a great throwback sound effect of Kirk-era transporter. And who should appear on the pad, but Montgomri Scott? Gammari Scott! They actually went into the studio archives and got mastered versions of the sound and the sparkles for this. Like they totally recompt the old analog files. Cool. and the sparkles for this. Like they totally recompt the old analog files. Cool. Which is part of the reason it sounds fucking fantastic. It doesn't sound like someone playing it

through a computer monitor and then recording it off of that. Like, it sounds great. Yeah. It looks great. Yeah, that is like I didn't watch TOS, like ever really, like I've watched, you know, some episodes on Netflix or whatever, but the, the sound is somehow like super nostalgic for me, nonetheless.

Yeah, yeah, it gives you the good chills. It's the real Scotty, like in the flesh. Yeah, Jimmy D. Ben, did I ever tell you that I went to high school with one of his kids? No. No. Yeah. And here's the thing, like I can't be certain that that's the truth. I can only tell you what this guy said.

I went to high school with Tommy DeWin. Who said that he was James DeWin's son. And I know that James spent a bunch of his retirement in the Northwest, in the Seattle area. So it was credible enough at the time. But I was not friends with this classmate. I had just heard about it, and the nerd in me was was was woke to that knowledge like I like I wasn't trying to be friends with him for it but I definitely recall like wanting to know as much as possible

like wouldn't he make a great commencement speaker like wouldn't he like why doesn't he he should come to sporting events wouldn wouldn't that be awesome? Like, I kept looking for him at school events, never saw him. Yeah. Don't know if what I was told was the truth or not. But, I mean, and here's another thing too. Like, I can't really find this guy on the Google. Weird.

So I'm wondering if this was a false flag operation. By a guy using Star Trek to be cool in high school, and that's a thing that I know nothing about. There was a fancy hotel with a really nice tennis club and pool attached to it, that some of my friends were members of when I was in high school. And, you know, their families had tennis club memberships

and so they could go in and use the pool and whatnot. And I had a friend who got in by telling the lady at the desk that his father owned the Claremont hotel. And he just had enough cuts, but that she was like, oh, my apologies, go right in. You're John Claremont? That's amazing. Welcome.

Yeah. So this is a big surprise, and it's a big like smash to title sequence Moment, he looks hurt and dirty too like yeah, he's got he's like he's like torn his outer jacket and Made a sling out of it. He's wearing that ares turtle neck though, which is just great. You fucking love that turtle neck Yeah, and I like when he gets cleaned up later, he like doesn't go to like a civilian costume. He just has like a clean version of his retro costume.

We are deprived of the scene at the replicator where he's choosing his clothing to the walking on sunshine song hello computer jordie jordie sitting on the on the seti yeah with his arms crossed and he like shakes his head no no no he comes out in the like the brown engineering lackey uniform the shimo to uniform no we can't have that

can't wear that shim't wear that Shimoda. It's a special unit. Then it comes out in the original and he's like, all right. Yeah. That would have been fun. I feel like Starfleet is the kind of organization that confronts time travel often enough

that there should be some procedures in place for reintegrating. I mean, like they had the fucking crew of the bozeman last season. Like those guys are from the exact same era as this Scotty character. And like there should be some kind of procedures in place for like, okay, this guy technically carries the rank of Captain in Starfleet. Like he was on his way to retirement, but he's not retired. So is he in Starfleet?

Can he boss everybody but Picard around? Is he, what's the deal? Shouldn't there be some kind of stuff that kicks in? That's a great point because they sort of play it both ways, right? They treat him casually enough. They treat him with the casualness of someone who's gone through space-time problems with people before, without any of the backfill administration of needing to give him the

Bozeman treatment, you know? Right. Yeah. And that's where the rubber meets the world building road, isn't it? Like, like that is, that is completing the circle on the storytell and, and it's, it's a little shallow, right? Yeah, it's a little superficial. It's, so, I mean, like, that is all in, all shallow in service of getting to a storyline that they get to as quickly as they possibly can, which is Scotty is being kind of brushed under this under the rug, brushed aside. Like, Picard comes down and gives to Six Bay and gives him a very perfunctory like welcome to the entrepreneur.

I'm really eager to like chat you up but I got to go back to work. Jordi's got to go back to work. But, say it up, it's four. Yeah, there's a, on the Lido deck, there's a free soft swirl ice cream machine 24 hours a day. But, you know, Jordi's going back to work, I'm going back to work. You're going to your quarters and having a nap. He just sort of gets left behind almost immediately,

but like, it's a rescue mission, and they rescued him, so I don't know what he was expecting. I guess, I don't know. The other thing that is kind of there for a moment and then never really readdressed is that there was another guy in the buffer that they lost. So he's dealing with the loss of a crewmate or whatever. He was a good lad.

And that is, I think after a minute, like, seven of this episode, that never comes up again. It would have been fun if part of his pattern was attached to Scottie's pattern. He's just got a single middle finger like throwing out of his cheek that Beverly has to scalpel off. Did I ever tell you about finger face? Is that a real question? This is a thing that like in my childhood I have a vivid memory of being in the waiting room at my pediatrician's office,

and there being another kid there with a finger, like fingers growing out of either side of his mouth, like a catfish. What? Like just like two fingers, like one on either side of his mouth. And it's like, it's one of those things where I like think back on it, I like, I can think, I can remember like a lot of details about this kid and the fact that his mom and sister were there with him and that he looked really sad and that he had two fingers growing out of his face.

And I cannot for sure decide whether I made this up or if it really happened to me. Was he talking backwards and an Angelo bottle of minty musical score playing? Because this all sounds very David Lynchy. You know, that's an interesting take on it that I haven't heard before. I mean, I told that story to my friends in college and what it what it evolved into was us calling each other finger face bro and putting a finger out from the side of our cheek and walking up to each other and like dittling each other's fingers. Kids are so mean. Speaking of mean, Jordy cannot, has no patience for this guy. Like Scotty comes to engineering and just starts hitting buttons.

Hitten buttons and asking questions. Just the frequency stabilization of the main reflector dish. It's not anything. You need to phase lock the work fields within 3%, but they'll become unstable. Jordi is like, God damn it man, I'm just trying to work. Yeah. On relative visit you at work, like, and it's just unannounced and disruptive. I feel like we have the kind of career

where if we had a relative that got out before the digital revolution but worked in film, it'd be like, don't leave that compartment open, you'll flash the film. Right. Like, Uncle Jeff, we're shooting digital, there's no concerns about overexposing anything. No, no, we just keep shooting, this is video.

We shoot and shoot and then we deal with it later. Scottie has, and he says this to Jorities, like he's got decades of warp core hours under his belt. He has enough context to know what all the terminology is, but not enough to know that like, oh, this thing was, 30 years ago. And now we like, re-crystallize the dilithium within the chamber or whatever. He's telling everyone within your shot that he's been working on these things so long.

W slash R slash T diapers. W slash R slash T grandparents. W slash R slash T twinkles and Dad's Eyes. Right, yeah. And, you know, that's great, Scotty, but like the time-served thing, like, I don't, I doubt you were in the transporter buffer, like getting better at engineering. Look, I don't know what you guys put into my crowds, Lash, but when I thought out the first thing I wanted to do is knit.

The time element of his argument doesn't mean anything. He's just old. Like, what career could you even think of where you could step away from it for three quarters of a century and come back and even expect to know what the fuck is going on? You know? Like, toddler? Is that like the one? I don't know.

I don't know, man. It's, I'm struggling to think of on anything that's not a, like, a force of personality job. Like politics or social work or anything else. Like, you could still land in Florida to the Glen Gary Leads, but you probably couldn't cobble a shoe because everybody walks around on those weird marshmallow shoes now. He really wants to work a lot for a guy who was honest, he was on that trip, like honest

way to an old folk zone, like he's ready to retire. Yeah, I mean, I guess, I mean, that feels plausible to me. Like this episode starts real rough and like around the halfway Mark turns around and starts getting better and better in my opinion. And like, I believe that part of wanting to work because like think about him being on that cruise to the retirement colony and having an emergency arise where he has to come up with a crazy Montgomery Scott solution to the problem of we don't have enough supplies to last-est rescue ship comes. That's just reigniting the fucking pilot switch in him.

Yeah, it's true. Yeah, that seems plausible. So in his era, you don't bum out by looking out a window or leaning against a wall. You go down to the bar and you do some drinking. Scotch! Nate! You get hella faded. And that's what he's there to do. There is a resting facial expression that Jimmy Dewen has that is just like so pleasant. Like he walks into 10 forward. Just, I mean, he has just been scorched by Jordy. But he's a man walking into a bar who is excited about being in a bar.

He sure is. He looks right at home. Yeah, and like, he's having a hang with data. Get him not quite human, are you? He's like, what's this crap? Give me something, give me some real booze. So data goes behind the bar and gets a bottle of clearvo gold that has been poured out

and then filled up with Echdo cooler. It is green. Ben, I was thinking, can anyone just go behind the bar? Don't they know there's a gun back there? I feel like data probably gets special dispensation from Gainon. Yeah. Yeah, I think so. Data worked behind that bar.

Not too long ago either. So he knows where stuff is. Yeah. I mean, he worked behind that bar under false pretenses, but that's probably because Geinen thought her job on the ship was diddle this bean. God, if a data's drinks were awesome. Either that or they were awful, right? Well, you can do that one where you flick it and it turns different colors. So that's pretty impressive.

I guess it's no surprise that Gyanin's good at the flicking beverages. So this is real booze, it's not synth-a-hal. There was some very interesting head cannon here or cannon cannon, I guess, where data says that you can like turn off the boozy effects of synth-a-haul. I didn't realize that. That kind of ruins a lot of jokes that we've made. I always assumed that synth-a-haul had no effects.

Well, he's saying that it can get you drunk, but then when you don't want to be drunk anymore, you can shrug it off. It simulates the appearance, taste, and smell of alcohol, but the intoxicating effects can be easily dismissed. That just seems like a lot of fun, and that's a moment that I want to see also. I want to see someone go from completely shit-housed to straightening their tie and going right to work. That'd be fun.

For all the times we saw Polasky knocking him back and then run off to Six Bay or Jordy knocking him back and run off to engineering. We never saw the moment of them like stopping, slurring. That would have been good. Ben, they have the weirdest transition here. So, data pours in a green shot and he shoots it and he's like, oh, this green stuff's great. Hit me with another. Data pours and then they do a full dip to black

and then fade up. Yeah. I don't remember ever seeing that on the show. Is that dip to black a dip to commercial? No. I don't remember ever seeing that on this show. Is that dip to black a dip to commercial? No. I don't think it is. Are you sure? Dip to commercials come with music.

They usually do, but I mean, I don't know. Like, yeah, that's one thing that is really weird about rewatching this show 25 or 30 years later or whatever it is. We don't really know when the fucking Tylenol commercials would start some of the time. Obviously, a lot of the time you get rikerized or warfies to commercial, but I interpreted that as a throat of commercial, but I honestly, I couldn't say certainly one way or the other.

Either it's an act break or it's the rare throat a commercial without music at all. And that felt very incongruent. Mm-hmm. My love is a people's longing to my back which longed a nurse has a busy how they want your love for you. We come back and he's like beating a program

into the holiday. And... 10 forwards is sort of a place that lets you take the bottle out of the bar, which is pretty permissive. I think I was listening to the flop house and Stuart was talking about how in movies it's a fairly common thing for somebody to sit down at a bar and get a whiskey shot poured for them and say leave the bottle.

And he was talking about what do you charge somebody for that? Yeah, like $800. Yeah, what do you charge for the guy that like takes the special bottle of green shit that the captain bought for the head bartender and then somebody else gave to you? Yeah, that's sort of bad form by data. That's like, that's gotta be like a cargo bay full of scarves kind of a situation, right? Ben, I've made the mistake of leaving the gift whiskey out, like during a party. Oh, and it hurts, man, it hurts to see the gift whiskey bandied

about with your group of assholes, not enjoying it the way it should be, just getting totally pounded right in front of you. and you can't be the jerk that asks for the gift whiskey back So you can hide it in the back of the liquor shelf again like you just got to watch it go down Yeah, you they're having their diet diet doctor pepper and papi van winkels. Yeah, yeah, like like totally Totally besmirching the quality of the whiskey well Like, ugh, totally, totally besmirching the quality of the whiskey. Well, Picard is actually pretty cool about this,

because he comes down and like Jimmy D has set up a enterprise 1701, no A, no B, no C, no D, bridge for himself. This was a weird moment because when he walks in, I was like, oh, like he is, he's like, they got like a shot of it from the old show. And this is a comp, like he's walking into a green screen. Like I totally thought I was looking at the green screen. And then like, he interacts with all of the parts

of the set, like they really built this set. It looks great. It looks amazing. And then Estalgia works. Like the entire Meezansen is in play. It's the look and the sound and the feel and all of it. Yeah. I mean, I love the idea. Like, the idea of Trek continuity is so fun to see Picard in this room in his 24th century uniform. Like, Scotty looks a little out of place in his movie caliber uniform, you know? But like the idea, like, oh yeah, this is what it used to look like for real. It's so fucking 60s.

Yeah, it's amazing. I mean, it's kind of what they did with Rouge One, right? Like they gave everybody the crazy like 70s facial hair and haircuts and everything like Like this immediately proceeds a new hope and therefore everybody's gonna look like the weirdos from the 70s in a new hope Yeah It's fun in an nostalgic way and it's fun to have them both interact on that bridge Scotty starts lamenting his

on that bridge. Scotty starts lamenting his lack of purpose and he's pouring shots for Picard and Picard is just fucking slugging giant shots back. I have so much respect for the way Picard plays this scene. For a long time I thought like how old am I when I watched this episode, like 12 or something? And like, for a long time, I thought that's what drinking was. Like, a giant glass of booze, and then swallowing it all in one go. Like, and the car just fucking takes it. Yeah. Beef stew with the big shots. So, Scott is confiding in him.

He's like, I'm sort of a man without a mission. All my friends are dead, not that I've asked about them or anything, but I'm just assuming. Picards, and they just sort of like, they talk like two neighbors in the driveway reminiscing about the cars they used to own. Like it would have been cool if Picard had been like, oh, you know, like Spock is still around,

but he's on Romulus last week. Yeah. And like, we had McCoy here a couple of years ago, but yee. I don't think you'd recognize him. A lot of burlap these days. Looking pretty rough. All right, I'm breaking my own rule here at him.

I've got some trivia here. The original Enterprise scene was made by comping some parts of it. Part of it is blue screen and part of it is stuff they built. They kind of like built the foreground and comp to the background. That makes sense. Yeah, but it's great. It's really well done. Yeah, I mean, you see the comp in the entry and exit from the holodeck, but while he's on it, it looks really good. And all of the, of the matting is great.

Yeah. Like, you, they're really tight. Right, and that's not easy to do. I mean, I think that, like, the thing that's really smart about it is that they put the background in soft focus, which a lot of composite artists fuck up for some reason. Yeah. Like, I've been watching old episodes of Sinfeld lately and every time they're in the back

of the cab, you know, like the driver is in soft focus. Yeah. Jerry's in his like tack sharp, the like back window sill is in soft focus and then the street that they're driving through is tack sharp. Yeah. It makes no sense. Yeah. It's very true.

The driving scenes don't hold up, but damn it if the rest of that show doesn't. It's still really great. It's still very funny. I mean, they tried to take it off syndication in Seattle. Like, we're gonna start playing two broke girls at 10 PM on our local subsidiary station. Yeah, I'd say to that Adam.

Fae the response was so loud and so angry it forced him to put sign felt back on Yeah, which as they should how dare you? Yeah, I mean, let's be honest, there's some fairly brazen homophobia and more than a few episodes that are pretty racist, but generally speaking, it holds up as a monument to comedy. Agreed. I am the cutest of all. You will assist us. I am the cutest of all.

You are all. Picard pulls, like, Picard grabs Jority by the shoulder and he's like, listen dude, you're a chief engineer, he's a chief engineer. I know you're having a tough time getting along with the guy. I'm asking you to do me a personal favor, take him over to that ship and like, I don't know, download the computer course or something. Go find his old records or whatever. And Jordi's like, all right, that's cool. Like I can get down with that. So they send Jordi and Scotty to the ship

to fuck around over there. And meanwhile, the Enterprise D is doing a bunch of sort of charting of the exterior of the Dyson sphere. Yeah. They find a doorbell. They push that doorbell, Adam, and like any creepy old house in any television show or movie, they enter and then the door slams behind them. It's a real fun effect.

Yeah. Like, of course. The effects in this episode are great. It's interesting seeing like a concave geography. Yeah. It's sort of a real headfuck. Yeah, it's amazing. I mean, it's like, it's super well done.

It's super cool. You can see the cities and the streams where the cities give way to the fields. And you're thinking about this thing that's got the surface area of millions and millions of earths and the idea that it was full of people and mountains and places to go, you know. It's like, it's such a, it's such a great sci-fi idea.

It is really got a smell though because you're in a totally enclosed space with trillions and trillions of dead people being slowly heated by an about to Nova Sun. Yeah. Yeah. Not good. I'm surprised when the door opened, like it wasn't just a cloud of gas. So it's a problem when the enterprise enters the Dyson sphere because their energy does not interact with the Dyson sphere energy that well.

So they get kind of rock down the way in, and their inertia pushes them towards the center, and that's where the sun is. That's not what you want, Adam. That sun is super, super, solar-y. Getting lots of flares. Why don't they use that tractor beam grappling hook? That's what I was thinking.

Like, grapple onto the side of the Dyson sphere on the inside. That's not a bad idea. Like, grapple onto the side of the Dyson sphere on the inside. That's not a bad idea. Right? I could be Captain. I think I see one of my card sainees, Tracy Coco is Lieutenant J in one of these scenes. Oh yeah? I don't know if she's credited though. This is like an extra. Oh well, we'll never know the answer to that little mystery item. So yeah, like the fun and games for the rest of this is like, you know, like the, the Genolan,

the ship that Scotty was on when it crashed is gonna like go, hold open the door while the entrepreneur makes its daring escape. But, you know, it's like not even really about that. It's about like, Jordy and Scotty, like building an esteem and then a rapport with each other. And it's really well done. Like the effects are great.

The suspense that they build is really exciting. And by the time the entrepreneur escapes and Jordy and Scotty like get beamed back and they're like walking down the hallway, slapping each other on the back, they're like good buddies. Yeah. It's so good.

In the way that it takes a life-threatening situation to forge a bond between people who previously don't like each other, like, they're war buddies now. Yeah, they're total war buddies. And like, oh man, the shots of the ship, like, escaping, like, going for the, you know and like, oh man, like the shots of the ship like escaping, like going for the, you know, like flipping it 90 degrees so that they can get through the closing doors. They hit that three wheel motion. Yeah. And the ship looks great so close to that star.

Yeah. They really lit it really well. I thought it was interesting to me like, Jordy and Scotty are on the gentleman, and the most terrifying thing in the world happens, which is Jordy hits his con badge and it doesn't go anywhere because the enterprise has gone. Like, how scary is that to be on a wrecked ship on the surface of the Dyson sphere?

Like, you're like, okay, I'm ready to go home now. Yeah, and you know that this thing is good for saving 50% of the people you put into the transporter. Yeah, his odds aren't great. Data's like, oh, I wish I'd been there. Whoa. Scotty pitches Jordy the idea of using the gentleman

as a doorstep. Yeah. Holding the door open. And Jordy is really willing to do this idea. At no point do they think about sending it to a distress call. I guess when you are the enterprise or the enterprise crew, you don't call for distress. You're willing to sacrifice your own life

to form a solution and that's what they did. Yeah, these guys are the no time for pack up, Creel. Yeah, for real. These are the two greatest, right? Like the two best of that have ever done it. I have spent my whole life trying to figure out crazy ways of doing things. I'm telling you, as one engineer to another, I can do this.

All right, let's do it. I want to see the episode where Scotty goes to Romulus to hang out with Spock. And he is bit And he is... And he is just like real uncomfortable. You call that soup? Yeah. Yeah. Ladi, I was making soup when you were twinkling your father's eyes.

So the button on the episode is backslaps and high fives and the chip's ending. It's great. Yeah, they're like, hey. It's not his back. We think you're great. Here's a Previa. Enjoy. Yeah.

What do you think is the value of that Previa? It's a pretty great gift. Yeah. They got a big Lexus commercial bow on it. It's the season of savings, Ben. Yeah. There's nothing better than a... Previa for Christmas.

Yeah. And, God, like, we never see him again. It's us. It's too bad. I'm sure there's like a thousand pocketbook novelizations of the continuing adventures of Montgomery Scott and his Winnebago. Hopefully, there are.

He basically becomes a loan star. The Scott Ferd files. He's just solving minor crime Minor crime on minor planets. Oh Man, can somebody from a fucking comic book company that has the license to the DNG rights? Please fucking get in touch with us. That is that's the thing I want to do most is make really weird comic book stories in this universe We could do it. Did you like this episode Adam?

Yeah, I mean, it's an easy yes. I think it's just the real question is how much do you like it? And like I don't think it's mountain worthy for me, but it was really great. It's a lot of great scenes that make up a really great story. It's an especially Star Trek-E story, you know? Yeah, it's a very Star Trek-E story. Which is satisfying, I know, to both of us. I love how low the stakes are. Like, it's technically an existential threat to the ship,

but they manage to make a story about two characters building a friendship that uses threat to the ship as B story and make it, like, make me not want the B story to be the A story. Which I think is an achievement. And I don't know, I was thinking this might might be a mountain worthy episode before we watched it and Like in the first I don't know 15 or 20 minutes of watching it I was like, oh man, it's really not mountain worthy But it really redeems itself by the end. I don't know that it like quite gets back to mountain level, but

It's so fun to see like Like dohan is fucking chewing up some scenery in this episode. It started, it started rough, dude, because Jimmy D was doing like SNL style cue card reading on his walk through the corridor with Jordy, like. Yeah. I didn't think.

He saved it for the, he saved it for the, for the back nine. Yeah, he really did it started rough But he really pulled it out of the out of the junk like admirably Just a just such a lovable character and performance Mm-hmm. You know what I love Ben. What do you love Adam going into the not so distant past checking our P1 messages? Oh, I our P1 messages. Oh, I love P1s. Priority 1 message from Starfleet coming in on Secured Channel. Need a supplemental link.

A supplemental link? A supplemental link. A supplemental link. Yeah, it's extra. The interest alone could be enough to buy this ship. Adam, we have a couple of priority one messages here. Our first one is from the Razz, that's to Plevim. These guys...

These guys almost got us in a lot of trouble. It's Fort Lauderdale Razz and Plevim. These guys are like Howard Stern's whack packers for our show. Here's our message Adam. Shaka, when the walls fell, Jordy, when Lea Brahms found him on the holodac, Plavim, when he asked a Croatian girl, if she spoke English and she replied,

not at this hour. Ooh, becard to Wesley in episode 118. Shimoda with the Isolaneer chips. Plavim when he got married and had a baby girl. Plavim and Razz on the greatest generation. Those croats don't brook that weak game. That's for sure. Yeah, you gotta come, you gotta come riker style with the Croats.

You got to have some Eastern Black game. If you want to be getting those digits, Razz and Plavim. Maybe you come Worf style. Yeah. Yeah. It's, I think. Do we have another, uh, another, uh, P1 atom? We certainly do, Ben. It is a personal pan priority one message from Razz to Plavim again. Yeah, evidently, evidently, uh, getting a cell phone plan is, is somehow less, is somehow more costly than sending us P1s. Well, less is somehow more costly than sending us P1s. The message goes like this, in case you don't understand Tamarion, total failure.

That was super creepy, dude. I am seriously embarrassed for you. Now I have to give you a stern lecture about not being a douche. You should probably stay away from computers when you're drunk. Somehow your stupidity ended well, because it is now raised $400 for this fine podcast. Hahaha! That's as right. They've dropped a lot of coin on P1s.

Yeah. Oh, they've got their priorities somewhat in order. I'm gonna say. I mean, I'm really going through the seven stages of raz and plevim right now because initially Initially, not super likable, but I got to say they're growing on me Starting to pull it out. Yeah, like this episode Adam. They are They they came off kind of bad at the beginning, but now it's getting more and more endearing. Like some problematic sign failed episodes, like the greater volume of work here is what we're judging,

and not the individual missteps. I mean, you could say the same thing about Star Trek, the next generation, Adam. If you would like to send a priority one message, you can go to maximumfund.org slash Jembo Tron. It's a hundred bucks for a personal message, 200 for a commercial message. Big help in the production of this program. Thank you. We're talking to you, Raz and Plaveme. Specifically.

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Scotty how to use the replicator and whatnot. And he was like, I called him ensign hospitality in my notes and he was like, I called him Ensign Hospitality in my notes because it's like, I kind of believe he was in the Hospitality major at Starfleet Academy. Like, he's almost there as like Concierge and Belman. He looked like one of the flander's kids to me. Like the asymmetrical vaguely ginger haircut, the little bit squeaky voice. Real fun. I love the idea that there's a guy on board that deals with

putting somebody in a room when nobody else wants to deal with it. Yeah, I mean, that's really what's happened here. Scotty should be a visiting dignitary and he should be given the raker treatment with respect to the replicators and such, but yeah. It's that he gets to Ensign Hospitality. Yeah, good call. I wonder if he has a signed card. He seems like the kind of person that would have a signed card. Yeah, yeah, I hope so.

One can only hope. How about yourself? Did you have a drunk Shemota Adam? Yeah, I mean, a titular drunk Shemota is who he is. It's Scotty himself the morning after just getting shit house drunk like Street animal drunk with captain Picard in the holodeck. Yeah, like they really tie it on and Like what we what we don't see is Picard's morning after which would be super fun Instead we just see we see Scotty showing up for work 40 late, like sort of limp walking into the

transporter, like a guy who's fallen down a few times the night before. I think they could have made no other changes and moved this episode safely into mountain territory. If the reason the enterprise got sucked into the hole was because Picard was like not, didn't have his wits about him. His clock radio is beeping to wake him up and he is just like, it's too past out to hear it. He's in the other room. That would have been so amazing. He's sleeping on the couch instead of the bed

and that's why he doesn't hear it. Yeah, he like wakes up, he's got like drool on his, on his one shirt so he has to switch into action jacket. It also made me think, like, what happens if you barf mid transport? Because he also looks vaguely nauseous. Like, does that go with you? It's got to go with you. Gross. What do we have coming up on the next episode, Ben? The next episode is season six episode five

Shishms Commander rakers inability to fall asleep begins to show in other members of the crew in other forms putting the entrepreneur on the trail of a mystery. Do you remember this episode Adam? Is this the episode where he's in an insane asylum? on the trail of a mystery. Do you remember this episode, Adam? Is this the episode where he's in an insane asylum? Is that this one or is that a different one I'm confusing it with? That's a different one.

I kinda think that's like maybe a season seven. Yeah. I don't really remember this being a plot line, so. Can I tell you something? I'm ready. I'm ready for Riker again. I want a Riker episode and we're going to get one. Okay, so no veto for you.

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