The Greatest Generation - The K’Pruder Film (DS9 S7E13)

Episode Date: November 9, 2020

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Priority 1 message from Starfleet coming in on Secured Channel. Hey friends of Disodo. Before today's episode, we just wanted to take a moment to talk about the historic labor actions being taken by writers and actors in the American Film and Television industry. If you're a fan of the work done by the people who make Star Trek, we hope you'll join us in standing in solidarity with the folks who actually bring these adventures to life. Over the past several years, the AMPTP, the organization that represents the American Film and Television Production Studios, have reduced the profit from movies and TV going to workers. And in so doing,

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I'm Ben Harrison. I didn't know which show I was in throwing. Yeah. I'm Ben Harrison. I didn't know what show I was in throwing. Yeah. For like five seconds I didn't know. We're stacking them and racking them today. We're recording a greatest generation and a greatest discovery back to back. And I could I could sense all of that in the way you intro the show. Normally I mean I was sharing with you an anecdote about a person who was in my house fixing an electrical problem earlier.

And I didn't quite understand what was happening. And like the point of the story I was telling you was that I didn't understand the context clues. And that's how that intro went. I didn't have any context clues to go off of, and so I was just blind. You need like that, like what I've done here is I've got my information pad out in front of me,

and I've got the beginning of the episode we're about to review up on the screen. So that's good. I see those uniforms, I see the standard definition in this of it, and I know where I am. I can orient myself. That's great. That's a good job by you.

What I've done is I've super embigand Adobe Audition, and for some reason I didn't look at the file title or anything. I wasn't looking at anything at all, man. I was just staring off into the distance. Your eyes crossed. You were trying to do like a magic eye, but for life. I can't do the magic eye. I've never been able to do that.

I've never been able to do it either. Hey, that's one thing you and I are alike about. I think that it's my weak eye muscles. Did you know I have famously weak eye muscles? You gotta work those babies out. You need to do eye kegels, baby. Yeah, yeah. I told you about that, right?

That in high school, I had to go to like a clinic a couple times a week and do eye exercises. That sounds headache-inducing. Yeah, it sucks. It's like, it's an hour of like looking at things and then you leave and you're exhausted. And you're like, I just looked at stuff. Come on!

That sounds like going to a museum in a tourist town. This is barely a museum! What the fuck? $15 entry for this? World's tallest filing cabinet? Indoor, old west ghost town? No, no, no. You guys just found an old barn and repurposed the wood.

You know the subject of of home improvement came up earlier, Ben. Just now I brought it up. That was me. It did that. It made me wonder if that couldn't be kind of a recurring segment because you, a new homeowner, me, a homeowner, constantly fixing problems with my aging house. I thought maybe if you had a story to share, maybe we could share, share an episode of this old enterprise, a cookie, because I have a story from today that I wanna share that might be instructive to other people.

Oh boy, lay it on me. So I'm gonna start at the beginning. Yeah. My wife and I have a stick vacuum, in addition to our regular vacuum, the kind you stick on a wall, and then it's cordless and it's great. It's great for stairs especially.

Oh, I've never had good luck with one of those because I feel like the battery is always too weak. You're not wrong about that, but in a house, the small size of mine, what I primarily use it for is for too weak. You're not wrong about that, but in a house, the small size of mine, what I primarily use it for is for the stairs. You don't wanna attack those stairs with something with a cord, use the stick vacuum for that.

So we've got a closet here. That's a great place for a stick vacuum to charge, but there's no wall outlet in the closet. But there is that light switch to the closet light. Yeah. I'm looking at the light on the ceiling, I'm looking at the switch, I'm looking at a place at the bottom where a plug could go. I start to put it together. There's some wires in that wall.

Yeah. There's coffee in the nebula, there's wires in the wall. It's the classic stick vacuum charging lament. You want to... Maybe that's the name of this segment, the classic lament, the classic homeowner's lament. So I'm in the closet and I'm looking at the place where this could go and I'm like, I could do this, I've seen this a million times. You get one of those blue boxes, you get the outlet, you run some wire.

You want, run a nice, stretch your Rolex down from the outlet. I've got Rolex, I've got a shitload of Rolex. I go grab the Rolex, I grab my wire cutters, I grab all the stuff. I've got extra blue boxes, even. I love the blue boxes. Wow, you didn't even have to go to the home center And a fine selection of blue boxes in my star true So I go I go get a blue box. I go get a I go get a plug I have everything I got the the cover I've got it all I'm ready to go it's same day project this never happens. I'm delighted by this

So I I get a drywall saw, the little, the little shorty drywall saw, so with the teeth, you know. Oh yeah, yeah. I love tracing the blue box. I love cutting with the drywall saw. It's great, very satisfying. But you want to make sure that there's no studs back there.

I did my research, there's no studs back there. I cut the box. I wrote the Rolex. The only stud is there in the closet. It's you, Adam. Yeah, the only stud is the guy holding the saw. Uh huh. So, blue box is in there, Rolex is run.

I gotta, I gotta use an extra long bit to drill through the horizontal piece of Lomba inside the wall, because you can't just drop, this happens to me all the time. You can't just drop Romex through the wall. There's always a barrier in the form of a two by four running horizontally. So crossbreeding or something. That's why you're gonna wanna get yourselves

one of those one foot long, one inch bits, so that you can telescopically cut through that thing, which I do, drop the Romex, plug everything up. Everything comes together great, everything's working, stuff is charging. Wow. But something weird happens. The weird thing is that when I turn off the closet light,

the closet light is flashing. What? At regular intervals, on, off, on, off. That could drive somebody mad off. I wish you would stop saying that off. It's basically the most upsetting thing you've ever done and I don't know why. the most upsetting thing you've ever done and I don't know why. So, the choice is either leave the light on and unplug the light bulb.

That was the choice I made, or close the closet door and experience the unoffing of the light inside forever. I knew I did something wrong, I just didn't know what. But the variables were such that I couldn't quite find the answers on the Google. And so we lived this way for months until an electrician was visiting our house for another reason. And I was like, you gotta check out this closet situation they have. And this guy checks it out. And this guy's great. If you need an electrician, I'll refer him to you.

Oh, I do. This guy cracks open my work. Work I had previously been very proud of. Mm-hmm. And patiently explains to me how I fucked up this wiring job. And how I could have overloaded the stick vacuum charger and like melted it and possibly like caught shit on fire in the closet.

Ooh boy, that's the big scary thing about messing with your own electric is the what if this melts in the wall or something? Here's the lesson. The big takeaway from this whole thing was not that I'm an idiot. That's just one of the lessons of every episode of Greatest Gen. That's a given. It's that one of the wires was was mislabeled. You know you get your your black and your white He actually took out a marker and and drew on the wire that should have had a black line on it because it didn't and so and so I miswired the switched the plug I'm sure this is driving our professional

Electricians crazy whoever's listening. I'm explaining all of this wrong, but my point is I all of the tradesmen and the audience are Screaming at their pod catcher tradesmen for whom we have the utmost respect then and now, but he was like, yeah, this was. Now more than ever, I feel like, because this is one of those things that just reveals how much you don't know, you don't know. And I was like, yeah, you know what I didn't do? I didn't open up the light on the ceiling.

And opening up the light on the ceiling and opening up the light on the ceiling would have confirmed the wire that I was known was one thing that was the other. So he was very nice. He was like, yeah, you know, you did find otherwise. He's like, they're there, they're there. Yeah, when you're a homeowner, you must prepare yourself for great embarrassment in front of your laborer.

When you try to do things yourself. And that was me. This is another instance of homeowner embarrassment. Yeah, wow. I have hesitated to embark on any electrical project more advanced than replace broken switch cover, you know, so far. But there's a couple of things that I've been thinking about. You know what, you could do a good bit of business if that was your only job.

Every switch cover in my home is broken. Yeah, it's wild. The people just leave them broken. I got a 10 pack for like two bucks. You can get unbreakable switch covers. Yeah, yeah, I got a 10 pack of the kind that, you know, they show the video of the guy like twisting it 180 degrees, you know?

Love that shit. Yeah, anyways. But speaking of almost killing yourself, Adam, do you want to get into an episode of Deep Space Nine where a killer is on the loose? I didn't intend to conjure such a great pivot. But look at what I did, and look at what you did. Nicely done. Yeah, let's do it. It's a Deep Space 9, season seven, episode 13, field of fire. What, what, what, what, do you realize how incredible this is? Ah, ah, ah, ah, ah, ah, ah, ah, ah, ah, ah, ah, ah, ah, ah, ah, ah, ah, ah, ah, ah, ah, ah, ah, ah, ah, ah, ah, ah, ah, ah, ah, ah, ah, ah, ah, ah, ah, ah, ah, ah, ah, ah, ah, ah, ah, ah, ah, ah, ah, ah, ah, ah, ah, ah, ah, ah, ah, ah, ah, ah, ah, ah, ah, ah, ah, ah, ah, ah, ah, ah, ah, ah, ah, ah, ah, ah, ah, ah, ah, ah, ah, ah, ah, ah, ah, ah, ah, ah, ah, ah, ah, ah, ah, ah, ah, ah, ah, ah, ah, ah, ah, ah, ah, ah, ah, ah, ah, ah, ah, ah, ah, ah, ah, ah, ah, ah, ah, ah, ah, ah, ah, ah, ah, ah, ah, ah, ah, ah, ah, ah, ah, ah, ah, ah, ah, ah, ah, ah, ah, ah, ah, ah, ah, ah, ah, ah, ah, ah, ah, ah, ah, ah, ah, ah, ah, ah, ah, ah, ah, ah, ah, ah, ah, ah, ah, ah, ah, ah, ah, ah, ah, ah, ah, ah, ah, ah, ah, ah, ah, ah, ah, ah, ah, ah, ah, ah, ah, ah, ah, ah, ah, ah, ah, ah, ah, mean, with a title like that, you don't have to watch the episode, which I recommend you don't.

Oh, man, wow, getting the review out right at the beginning. Our show is on a new measuring system. The metrics, they're important to advertisers. And you and I, I believe we still don't know. Like, it's totally inscrutable how it shows downloads and listens are measured. Yeah, what you're talking about is the number of downloads that our new host assesses us to have

is a very different number from what our old host assessed us to have. I just made a terrible mistake by giving away my feelings of the episode. We're gonna get like half of the regular amount of listens to this as we would, which is already half of what we were expecting in the first place. The thing that's maddening about it is our old host we loved and there were you know things things we liked about them. I think there are a lot of things we like about

the new host as well. But our old host was like, hey, you guys are getting kind of a shitload of downloads and it's like, we need to start charging you more. So we went to those new ones and now they're like, you're not really getting a shitload of downloads. So web hosting equivalent of kicking someone out of an all-you-can-eat restaurant for just being able to eat a lot. Yeah, yeah, we paid the flat fee and we're getting.

Sir, you've taken too many peel-in-eat shrimps. Yeah. We didn't think you were going to take all of the Alaskan king crab legs when you paid the $39.95. We could tell you met business because you wore those metal gloves. You used for shucking oysters. Bashir is toasting a pilot. This guy's name is Hector Alario.

He is, they call him a fighter pilot, but he's like the Helmsman for the little D, the new Helmsman. I believe our very first shot includes Lieutenant Hector Alario. And my note is, in parentheses, who will be dead by the end of the episode? Little did I know how wrong that would be. Well, you're trying to put some suspense back into our episode by... Right. I'm the suspense goalie of this episode.

Yeah, it's going great. If suspenseful storylines or a turnoff for you, I'm here to make this one a lot better. But sure, just can't help but toast the shit out of this guy. To the tenant! Hector! Ilarium! You're the best. it? Hector. Ilaria. You're the best. I'm the worst. I wouldn't mind hearing a little more.

Even Kira is like, hey, maybe ease off the toast throttle a little bit. And Bashir just wants to wax eloquent. He and O'Brien are telling Ilaria like, dude, you are the greatest, seriously, anything you want. We got you. And what Alario wants is the one thing that they cannot do. Next time you two go to the Hollisweep, I'd like to come along.

Calm me down. Now it's out of the question. It's impossible. This is the danger of even saying something like, if there's anything we can do. Yeah, don't say that. The Hollisweep is off limits to to the if there's anything we can do offer. Alaria really steps in it. This was not cool of him to ask and because they're going to go do their Davy Crockett, the Alamo adventure and they don't want any like Johnny come lately.

They don't want anyone to see what that program's about really no one wants to know where O'Brien wears the hat I'm just like looking at the scene and wondering if due to Hector Ilaria's ethnic background he would be on the other side of that program from them and that's why they don't, they're like, we actually don't want you to kick our ass in the game. You understand. I suppose. Maybe that's what was going on.

Anyways, instead he hangs out and does like by far the better activity which is drink with Ezra and Kira. Yeah, but he makes that mistake by, here's the thing. Here's what I've picked up over a lifetime of drinking. A lifetime of poor choices. You want to leave the hang before the last drink as the group dies down into, you know,

five, four, and three people. I think you want to be out of there before the last three people. Yeah, and you never want to be the most faded guy at the hang. Like, hector is on one. He is fucking knocking drinks back. He is swaying. He is stumbling. He even gets demoted over the course of the scene because at the beginning, Bajur is toasting him as Lieutenant Alario and by the end, Ezri is like, yeah, I know what a drunken ensign is, but I look at what. Yeah, that is such a low-key burn.

He doesn't even notice it. He still thinks he has a shot. They've been drinking real Sarane Brandi. Stuff really packs a punch. You can't just dismiss the effects, like with Syntha Hall. No. He gets her back into his apartment and even like makes a pass at her

using a riff on a Churchill quote. You're very beautiful. And you're very drunk. You cannot reason with a tiger when your head is in its mouth. Can they, Luria? And she slams the door on his dick. Which was the right choice.

I mean, then you know, the doors of deep space nine don't have that sensor that garage doors have that won't close on a toddler. Like, right, right. Like, these garage doors will close on a dick. Yeah, yeah. When we're installing these doors, we have decided not to put the optical sensor.

That way, when young lieutenants big passes at other young lieutenants, they have the option of giving them an object lesson in why that is an inappropriate ask. We've tested these doors using a pack of Bobhawk Crack Fritters. It's like the Saw Stop video. Yeah.

It's like the Saw Stop video but with a dick. We cut to the exterior bin and the hood remains docked at deep space 9. The hood's not going anywhere. No. That's probably why quirks are so empty these days. People are partying on the hood. I know that's where I would go. Fucking hey.

Yeah. Anyways, Ezra wakes up the next morning early. She's an early riser, which sucks, right? Like you have a late night of knocking back the brandies and then your fucking alarm goes off at 6am. Do you think it's easier to get bed hair with shorter hair or longer hair? Cause she pops up and does not look like she's been in bed

in a useful way if you want to get to work without having a shower or something. Well, that's the thing Adam. I mean, she crawled into bed at 4.30 a.m. Oh, yeah, she's barely in there. She didn't have enough time to muster her hair. Or makeup. She like has herself a cup of tea and then is like wandering out

into the hallway when security guards are running by. And she runs to Hector Alario's quarters, which has now become a crime scene at him. Lieutenant Alario has been killed. He's got a big gory wound in his chest, and it's not just a phaser that killed him. He got shot with a gun, a real projectile. I'm an enthusiast of 20th century crime novels, and I've made myself into this chalk outline

around Alaria, what do you think? I'm also that caution tape over there, and the little easels of paper enumerating clues on the floor. I really lost a bet here, Ben, because I guess Delario would be dead by the end of the episode. He's dead by the end of the cold open. He is, yeah. The speculation is that the Murder Whipin is a Starfleet TR116 rifle, which is something that we speculated a lot about in Borg's based episodes of TNG.

Why isn't there a projectile weapon in the Starfleet arsenal? And it turns out there was. The way that they describe this weapon's utility is basically in circumstances where Borgs are involved. Right, but they don't say the B word. They usually let a techno babble about like Star Trek, Star Trek, Star Trek, but... Yeah, damn it.

But you and I both know that it's all about shooting borgs. Yeah. Anyways, this kind of narrows the range of suspects to a category of people that they don't consider as possible murder suspects because only Starfleet officers would have access to the replicator patterns that you would need to make such a weapon. Disturbing thought, isn't it?

Yeah, you can't just go into a Joanne gun store and get any pattern for any weapon you want. It is really disturbing to think what society could look like if people can start 3D printing guns. It feels very scary, wouldn't it? Yeah. They've got a couple of other clues. One is that the bullet traveled just a few inches, so point blank range of kill except for no powder burns.

So it's a stone cold mystery. How did that happen? Pretty interesting bit of business here. Cisco reveals himself to be kind of a gun nut. He's the subject matter expert here. Odo and Bashir looking at him like, where did this come from? What?

Why do you know so much about this? But I guess it's right if they're keeping these weapons on the station, which they clearly are for some reason. How did you know so much about this? But I guess it's right if they're keeping these weapons on the station, which they clearly are for some reason. How did you know that? I feel like if you lost a wife at Wolf 359, this is a particular area of interest for you. Like how do you fend off Borgs? You'd want to sleep with one of these under your triangle pillow. It's so big though.

Yeah. Go to Kotlin. Go so big though. So we get a couple of scenes that I really liked because it was just about kind of how sad and confused the Starfleets are about this. There's a scene with O'Brien, Bashir and Ezri just sitting in the bar talking about this and it's like it's so far outside of their experience to think of somebody just being murdered. And I really, I thought that was a nice bit of writing. Like I liked that the episode kind of pulled the car over for a second and just let us see how

these characters feel about this because it's so, like they live in a utopiaopia like people don't kill each other at least of all star fleets and I thought that was like nicely observed There is that moment where Cisco is Is looking at the Friday death report and and the and the growing wall of names and then he looks over it Bashir and O'Brien and Esri cheering cheering in their grief over Alario and he's like, Doctor, please. Ha ha ha ha ha ha. Alario is one man.

I know it's sad, but I've got this wall over here. Yeah, but I mean, like I think that the episode also makes the case for those things feeling different, right? Cause like it talks about like the difference between murder and killing in combat and why that's different, why it feels different. And the many different types of survivors guilt because they didn't know Alario very well and there's the feeling that they wish they had been kinder to him. Right, if we just let him kick our ass in our video game, we wouldn't be here talking about what a great guy used to him. Right, if we just let him kick our ass in our video game, we wouldn't, we wouldn't be here talking about what a great guy used to be. As he's like, if I didn't close the door on his dick,

I mean, maybe his corpse would have a whole dick on it. Yeah, the mortician wouldn't have to touch that up for the open casket rockhard dick funeral that his will stipulates. Were the bottom doors open instead of the top? You know what, Alario came from a different culture. We can't just make fun of it, okay? We do get to see the flag draped coffin. They don't open the bottom half, unfortunately. Yeah, I mean, and you know that flag draped torpedo tube They don't open the bottom half, unfortunately. Yeah, I mean, and you know that flag draped torpedo tube is getting a lot of use this season.

Yeah, it's, they didn't even put it away between episodes. Yeah, I did see that it was a little bit tented, you know, sort of toward the middle. Uh-huh. That stood to reason. The sheer is comforting Ezri in this scene for one reason, but Ezri's pain is coming from somewhere else. And that is, she knows what it's like to be a murderer because Jordan Daxx killed three people. So it's not like a grief over Alario, as much as it is like processing the idea of murder from a different perspective.

Yeah, and it's like kind of a distant and weird, but familiar in an uncomfortable way feeling. And we cut from this to what I initially thought was gonna be a orb experience, but was just a dream. Right. Sometimes hard to tell the difference between those on this show. Center frame composition is often dream language on Star Trek.

Yeah, and very wide angle tracking shots in the hallways is very Star Trek dream language. She's in the habitat ring or something and there's bejure and security walking around and they're taking the killer into custody and the killer turns out to be Hector Alario. What? But you're dead. Doesn't make any sense. Yeah.

That's because it's Dream Logic, Ben. Right. But then she has an encounter in this dream with Jorin. And Jorin kind of prevails upon her in the context of the dream. Like, hey, I can help you. You know how like Hannibal Lecter could get inside the mind of the killer? You've got a Hannibal Lecter inside your head.

Just unlock it. There's a way that Ezri can do this. It's the right of emergence. Mm-hmm. If only she was up for that. I don't want your help. Maybe not, but you need it. She shoots up in bed because she's getting a phone call, though.

And I mean, like much like Jorin's MO, this is now turned into a serial killing situation because there's been another murder. Poor Greta van der Wig. Same cause of death as Elario. The magic bullet theory alive and well on Deep Space Nine. They really got a close down the Deep Space Nine book depository. I think that settles it. Why would someone open an umbrella on the top level of the promenade? There's no rain in the cast that day.

Doesn't make any sense, does it? And why is that Klingon happen to be taking 8mm footage of everything? The... Capruder film. That's what we needed. That right there. Frost that cake, brother. It's a, you know, like the more evidence they get, the more confused they are.

And they need to start narrowing down who could have done this. And Cisco turns to Asriott, is like, you know, like how FBI profilers exist? Are you that now? And she's like, and he's like, great, you're that now. Everyone has this thinly veiled interest in something related to 20th century

investigatory practices. Right. What an interesting coincidence, given when this show was written. What mean forensic psychology, Rambo? It wasn't my favorite subject. There is a scene where Bashir and O'Brien are having a little bit of lunch together. And they're talking about Davey Crackett, their favorite subject, and Davey Crackett taught himself to shoot in this way where he could like ricochet bullets off of things,

and his shirt was just kind of rambling on and on about this part of this book that he likes, and O'Brien is like, that cracks it. That's how it happened. They're beaming the bullets. The bullets are being beamed at them. Julian, you're a genius. Well don't thank me, thank David Crockett.

It's incredible. It's like credible bit of business. It's like this rifle is part exocomp. So O'Brien does a classic TV thing, which is a show not tell of a key insight in the murder investigation, which is that he has Ezra and Odo come into the science lab and put on some goggles,

and then from a different part of the station, he shoots a big purple melon that he set up in the middle of the room. They really, really should have slimed Odo and Ezra in this scene, I feel like. That's the expectation, right? He has the keep backing up and I'm like, no! Just surprise them with a bunch of melon!

When this scene was playing out, I was like, oh yeah, this is gonna be a CSI scene. And then I went to look up when CSI was on TV. It was not TV until October of the year 2000. They beat CSI. They probably just stole the entire idea of CSI from this episode. It's very inspiring. I love this scene. It's the best scene of the episode. It's the best scene of the episode but it should have been the Nickelodeon splatter all over Ezra and Odo. It would have just made it so much fun. You know what's great about this scene is that they can't show you O'Brien out in the hallway doing this because that would

look ridiculous, right? Like part of it is setting up a CSI scene because CSI scenes are cool and the mystery surrounding this, but you also actually can't show O'Brien because that would look dumb. Yeah, Odo is really psyched about the implications of this weapon because you can basically be standing anywhere on the station and shoot and kill someone.

I don't see any bullet holes. It explains almost everything about these deaths except who did them. Yeah, it deepens the mystery. But another thing that I would love an explanation for is why Ezri is just like hanging out alone doing nothing at all in the Replomat. Yeah, I didn't Cisco put her on the task of forensic psychology. Yeah. Looks like she's not doing shit.

She's just sitting there by herself. Stations totally shut down. You know that it's super late because Morn is taking lady friend back to his quarters. You know Morn shuts Quark's down. You know he does. And it's one of those horror movie scenes where the lady is walking around in a creepy dark environment telling whoever is listening

that she doesn't think it's a funny joke that they're making creepy noises. Turns out that Wurf is looking after slash stocking her. Thank you, Wurf, that's sweet. What the fuck, Wurf? Pretty high creep factor. Yeah, come on. Like, she is relieved by this.

I feel like she should have been like, eh, I'm gonna talk to the captain about getting reassigned to a different station or ship. It seems like the station should never be sufficiently empty for a scene like this to be possible. Yeah, I remember when I moved to New York, when I was moving into the dorms in my school, like somebody asked the RA and the meeting,

you know, meeting the RA thing. Like, when is it not safe to go out at night? And it's like, I don't know, like it's, there's usually a lot of people around. It's like, it doesn't really feel dangerous. It's like, you know, like sometimes you'll go out at 4 a.m. and there'll be more people around than at 4 p.m. And I feel like that's how deep space nine should be.

It should be the station that never sleeps. Yeah. If you can make it on deep space nine, you can make it anywhere. That's what they say about it. Worf cannot make it on deep space nine. He asks, can I help with the investigation? And she's like, no, We know your reputation around here. You suck at this guy.

Asri fails to see how much help warf can provide because she clearly needs the counsel of someone familiar with murdering people. Warf is right there. Warf is murdered lots and lots of people on the show. Yeah, you don't even have to pray to get Warf to appear. Yeah, yeah. He's right behind you. So what the episode wants you to believe is that this is a breakthrough for the Warfan

Ezreal relationship. But what you and I have presupposed is that it was not. And instead a real creep show. Yeah, really creepy. I was surprised to learn that Esri keeps a fondue pot going at all times in her apartment. You always want to be ready to entertain, especially if you're a new crew person on the station. Is this like the casulae at La Santral in San Francisco where she just adds more ingredients to it periodically, but it's never not kind of going and not kind of the same fondue. You know, I had that exact thing in my notes, the cassilet at La Sanchole in San Francisco.

A famous French restaurant that's had the same cassilet going for like five decades. Oh yeah, I bet the colors the same. I did not like the look of this fondue. It looked pretty dark. Yeah, it was kind of nasty looking. So, Esri performs the right of emergence to the mystical sounds of the pan flute. Joran, Tanas, Ram. Glad to Virata, Nickto. Voke Esri, Joran, Tanas, Ram.

This scene is emblematic of so many in this episode crippled by the musical score. I tend to agree. I think that I feel like we're also comparing Deep Space Nine a lot to Lower Decks and Discovery which have such splendid music that then it's kind of like maybe this is just medium good music but it seems so bad by comparison. You can feel the show strain against itself in that we've got to stick a musical hat on top of what we're seeing because it just doesn't make sense to see a guy appear out of thin air unless it's supported by something. Right.

And we can't smoke the room. Like what are the things that are available to us? I guess it's score. Yeah. But Jorin appears like the red bear and pizza man. You won't regret this, Esri. To Esri. And it's clear, really, like from this scene and in so many others involving

Ezre, that being a trill is kind of a controlled schizophrenia. He's always been there. He's just been suppressed very deeply, and now he's out. Yeah, and she talks about him being separated from the others in this context, like it kind of singles out this one part of her personality in a way that is not... It's usually kind of more of a chorus. Now he's getting a solo. You want to partition your mental hard drives into sections where your murderers live.

And then your little gymnasts and your other hosts that you barely remember. Hi, I'm Tom Silver for this old Macintosh. Today we're installing an OS 2.0 operating system into this trill. Now it's a very old system. It's really what you call a symbiotic lament. Wait a, we're going to show you how to change icons on folders. So he kind of becomes her get into the mind of a killer coach. And the first lesson is get this gun that the chief O'Brien has replicated and like

feel what it is like to look down the barrel of a killer's weapon and Have somebody in your sights and experience that power Lee McCloskey is the actor who plays Jorin and I feel like he makes some really specific choices with how he plays this character mostly by really Jim carrying around his physicality, I think.

I think you and I have talked before about how on-screen close between characters is much, much closer than real life close. No one talks to another person as close as people do on TV and in movies, but Jorin talks even closer. He's also like almost always behind her. Yeah. And kind of like breathing down her neck in a way that is very predatory feeling.

I feel like that's a good direction, because he kind of has the physicality of a predator, and that is what his character is. Oh, the trigger. Find out. I think it's part of the dream-scape language of the show. Like, he can't be normal, he can't act normal, he can't talk to Esri normally, he's got to have it up to 11 in all of his scene

so it can feel off. God, I loved this special effect of her looking through the special viewfinder on this rifle, like zooming through walls of the station and like seeing the little gaps in the walls full of weird space equipment and then, you know, zooming in and out through even more bulkheads. It was really cool.

I really like that it uses a track ball. It's so big. Yeah, the controls on the side of the gun is such a nice detail that I feel like they didn't even need to show how she was controlling it, but they chose to, and it was cool. Using a slice of cucumber as a targeting display is a really nice way to reduce the bags under your eyes.

Also. Is she gonna be like a little lopsided though? Is it really a nice way to reduce the bags under your eyes? Also. Yeah. Is she going to be like a little lopsided though? Is it going to look like she had like the mask on one side but not the other? You know that they tried out a double cucumber targeting system and it just looked too weird. He gets her to a point where she's got some Porsche

Muck who has no idea how close he is to death in her sights. This guy is like drinking a cup of coffee in his apartment by himself. It's a peeping gun, then. It's creepy as hell. Yeah. Hey, Ezri. That's a fake thing.

Got me, got me, got me, got me, got me. Jordan is telling Ezri like punch his ticket and she does that thing where she like rips off the headset and throws the rifle down and says no. It's a scene that really establishes a couple of things, right? Like whoever the killer is is going to be getting off on the distance, but it's also like a self-control thing, right? When you're at that kind of remove, there's kind of a distance involved with the power, a godlike power even, that you don't get when you're up close and murdering someone.

I'm here to tell you, Ben, when you murder someone up close, the feelings are extreme. But those are not feelings that you see as we display when she's got someone in the crosshairs from the other side of the station. It's really a shame. There are so many little moments when you kill someone with a knife. Mm-hmm. She goes for the knife later,

but just not just yet. The cat is out of the bag here. Ezri has let Jordan into her world. So she is like do-coding in public around the station. Like she's walking around the promenade, talking to Jordan and quark takes some concern. Like, I think you need a vacation. You're talking to yourself.

I think the show would like you to think that quark notices because he's interested in Esri romantically and so he would take a greater interest in what she's doing if she's in his orbit. But everyone on the promenade should notice this. This should be bizarre. But if he was like, hey, listen, a few weeks ago, they started up the Vic Fontaine program and never shut it off.

And like nobody has gone in there since then. You seem a little bit unstable right now and he is like, by far the best psychologist on the station, no offense. If you could just go in there, it would like really help my costs. There's a cameo by Nog who walks by like on the other sort of pedestrian walkway.

And we punch and close on him. He kind of double takes Ezri and then shakes his head, like fuck is wrong with her. Yeah. We're here. Can't believe she was trying to give me psychology advice. There is another murder, right? Yeah, there's been a connection between the murder victims.

I'm calling them Tim's for sure. Poster few Tim's. They were both killed in their quarters. Is that a coincidence or a connection? Is a question, Jorin asks. Yeah, I mean, like nothing else seems to link these people. They didn't know each other. They served relatively different amounts of time on the station.

It doesn't seem like they have anything that could be compared. So it makes this murderer so dangerous? Yeah. They're talking about all these things in Quarks, which is a dangerous place to be having a conversation with your imaginary friend, but a starfleet is like running from security. And Ezri kicks a chair over to knock the guy down and then jumps on top of him and is about to stab this guy with a knife like the Joker. Yes, do it.

Do it! When Odo takes the knife out of her hand. It's enough. And then we get a pretty hard-boiled scene in Cisco's office where he's like, why were you using this knife? Guns! Guns are much better! Ensign Bertram punches Ezri before Ezri thinks about stabbing him. How important do you think that moment is to that scene? Because if Ensign Bertram doesn't attack Ezri,

I think the moment with a knife feels far more unhinged. Right, yeah, I wonder about that. I wish they had given us one line about, oh yeah, Bertram is out of Starfleet now because you don't run from the cops and then punch another officer who's stopping you if you're in Starfleet now because you don't run from the cops and then punch another officer who's stopping you if you're in Starfleet. Right.

But like, I mean, speaking of gun nuts, Bertram turns out to have been asked about the fact that he replicated a TR116, and that's why he ran from the cops because he didn't like have permission to do it. He just threw away his whole Starfleet career. He sounds too unstable to be in Starfleet. No!

He was on Beijor during the first murder, so it wasn't him, babe. Yeah. It wasn't him. Morning, morning, morning, morning, Staying asleep, morning, morning, morning, morning, Anywhere buddy, morning, stop, have a time. At this point, Ezri tries to put the Joran back in the bottle, but Odo calls Ezri about yet another murder.

This time it's a boolean with the same cause of death. He has Zimbrat, his chest shot, and this is now three characters that don't seem to have anything linking them. The first two were human, so it seemed like maybe that had something to do with it, but now Obolian has been introduced, that eliminates it. But Zimbrot has one prop in his apartment that is very similar to props in the other two victims' apartments, and that is a photograph of him laughing.

That's what the victims have in common. Pictures of laughing faces. They all have framed pictures of the dead people laughing with crew people. Why doesn't Ezri tell everyone she knows and everyone at the station to get rid of their framed photographs of themselves laughing? Well, the last thing you want to do is cause a panic. So don't give people information that they could use to protect themselves. What you end up doing is creating a framed photography bubble,

increasing the value of frames and the photographs inside, a run on them, even on the Michaels aboard Deep Space 9. Yeah, imagine the fallout if that had happened. Yeah, it'd be weird, flower arranging foam everywhere. So, but this unlocks it for her. She realizes that the killer must be a Vulcan with an axe to grind. So, I'm Vulcan that resents expressions of laughter, because he or she has been traumatized.

And so now it's a process of narrowing down the Vulcans on Deep Space Nine. There's 48 serving, one of them has to be the killer. It's got to be a Vulcan. How badly did you want a montage here of infinite Vulcans of infinite diversity? I wanted a usual suspect scene where it's just lineup after lineup or like a little binder full of pictures of Vulcans. Yeah, yeah.

All the every 48 that are on the station. Right. You see them coming for the lineup and one of them is Kramer. Right. He's just here for a paycheck. Jordan and Ezra are talking about what a great scene that would have been. Right.

When a Vulcan enters the lift that they're on, and Jordan knows right away that this is the killer. Yeah, well he's going to level K55. What do you think K stands for, Adam? Are you addressing me? Yeah, it doesn't mean Kronos Means killer killer 55 Ezra's not gonna arrest him right there on the lift. No, does she have the authority to do that even? I feel like she is not prepared in any way because this guy is way bigger than her. She's not armed or anything. And, you know, we know Vulcan's have super strength.

She's involved in a criminal investigation and does not work with Odo at all. Have very few interactions between her and Odo in this episode. Oh, you get the beginning, of course, but, yeah, somehow, it somehow becomes only her job to solve this. And like, when she starts to get onto it, it's not a report back to the task force moment for her, it is a go further into my solo operation moment for her, but she starts researching this, dude.

He used to surf on the USS Grissom, Adam. Yeah. JTS, the Bonkimatic. Yeah, when the Grissom, Adam. Yeah. J.T.S. Department Command. Yeah, when the Grissom was lost, it was just all the rule books floating in space. Really sad scene. You know they cut to the wide shot and start trick, so you'll quiet and sad.

Yeah, those pages floating around in orbit of the Genesis planet. Science Officer Chulac was one of the six survivors on that ship. So now to catch him, she starts using the gun that Chief O'Brien replicated to violate the privacy rights of everyone on the station, so she can find him. And then they're doing that thing where they're looking down the barrel of their sniper rifles at each other. Oh, that's so fun.

Ezri manages to get the money shot of the non-lethal shoulder hit, whereas Jouac hits the wall behind her. You fulfilled the promise of any movie or television show having to do with sniper rifles when you get this scene. Yeah, I mean the only better thing is getting the thing where the bullet goes through the scope and into the eye of the sniper but because this gun is not configured that way, this is this is what you have to do. Just imagine all of the cucumber and cucumber seeds everywhere with a shot like that. Yeah, that'd be great. Yeah. She goes into his quarters, which seems to be pretty close,

because he's still crawling, belly crawling across the floor to get his gun. Yeah. His motivation at him was that logic demanded it. That's why he killed all those people. Logic told him. That's all you need. All you need is logic. Da, da, da, da, need. All you need is logic.

All you need is logic. Jorin is all up in Ezri's ear about finishing the job. This is like the end of a mortal combat fight. It's time for Ezri to finish him. Yeah. For a moment, you think she might, but she does. For a moment, you think she might call the security services too. Right. Yeah, she doesn't even call them.

She calls this year. Yeah. Julian, I shot a guy and he pissed himself. He told me to call you anytime, something like that happened. The piss and the blood are mixing, and I'm not sure if you're into that, but... Of course I am. I just put down a towel. Ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha And there seems to be an implied, not so much a promise, but the situation is that Jordan won't be able to

be buried as deeply as he once was after this experience. He's gonna be more on the surface, like the rest of Ezri's previous hosts. He's gonna have equal status to what curves on in joy enjoys or whatever. It's gonna be real, Jorin versus Board of Education in Side-Ezry.

Oh boy. Ha ha ha. Well, I think we already know the answer to this question, Adam. But did you like the episode? You really want to do this. Here, now, okay, okay, let's do it. I feel like this was the sex candle episode of Deep Space Nine. You like the episode? You really want to do this. Here. Now, okay, okay, let's do it.

I feel like this was the sex candle episode of Deep Space 9. Whoa, damn! And I really think it was absurd. There were a couple of bright points, but the bright points to me were just like payoffs that I really wanted to have happen, like sniper scope to sniper scope. Yeah. But I like the character of Ezredax. I like Nicole DeBoer as Ezri Dax.

I'm done with Ezri Dax now. I feel like we've gotten like three out of the last five episodes about her. I think I'm ready to get back to the war. There's a war raging out there. And I don't know if you know that. There's a war going on outside. No man is safe from.

You could run but you can't hop a apple. What about you, Ben? I really liked this episode. I feel totally differently from you. I thought it was a very fun Star Trek as a place and we're gonna do a murder mystery in Star Trek episodes. This was just an opportunity for you to get up on your anti-gun high horse and wave your non-gun holding hands around. I don't know man this is a trash episode I think you know it. I disagree with you. It's okay for us to not agree. I think it was a good episode. I thought it was a fun who done it. I think that CSI stealing the premise of it is

all the evidence I need to defend my case. Yeah, that show every version of CSI went into syndication. That's how great of an idea it was. Yeah, I got fucking rich as hell, Megan CSI. God, I wish I had CSI money. I could have an electrician on retainer. Yeah, that could just be there every week. Yeah.

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You loved so much, like to the exclusion of all other concerns, personal or professional. Ensign Bertram loves guns so much that he's willing to break Starfleet law to create a weapon that he's not supposed. Actually, no one says he's even going to create one. The possession of the plant is sufficient to get him arrested. And arrest, he's so fearful of that he flees from the cops and punches another officer. Where did he think he's gonna go? How do you escape Deep Space Nine? I don't know.

I think we could have constructed an entire episode about Incin Bertram. Give us the field of fire episode that's from Bertram's perspective. Wow. Kind of a weird lower decks episode where there's the crime happening in the background and we're just kind of hearing about it. Lower decks after dark. Yes, I lower decks. Bertram acting crazy is enough to earn my Shimoda.

What about you? I don't think we get the name of this guy, but the guy that is in the Redical when Esri first tries out the gun and is like eating his breakfast cereal or whatever and she could kill him but doesn't. I just thought that I was very funny casting because he was just like the most milk toast looking dude of all time. So he's my, he's my drunks about it for.

Guy who probably could have gotten killed in that scene if Ezra had been slightly more suggestible by Jorin. Do you think if you've been cast as an extra in those scenes, you're wondering why no one's really bothering with the makeup that jumps on you before you go to set? Yeah, yeah, probably. Hey guys, I noticed like my uniform isn't tailored very well and no one has put any makeup on my face. Why is that?

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Yeah, she was, she was looking pretty rough. Ben, I mean, I'm just gonna say it. Yeah, maybe she's just like a pile of skin flakes in the corner of some Kardashian station now. Gross, hit her with a lint roller and you're liable to come back with an empty uniform. Well Adam, I'm dying to find out how we record that episode. And you are the man with the dice in his hand right now.

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