The Greatest Generation - The Legend of Argyle (S1E13)

Episode Date: March 7, 2016

When the away team beams down to the charred ruins of a desolate planet, they find body parts strewn everywhere that end up belonging to Data's twin brother, Lore. After assembling him they find out that like all pairs of twins, one is good and one is evil. But after giving Lore the full, unsupervised run of his ship, Picard is most concerned with Data's loyalty. The crew needs to figure out whose side he's on fast, because there's a glass pinecone that is bent on destroying the ship. Will Tasha Yar sleep with Lore, too? Will killing a tree save them? It's the episode where we finally inherit the "Shut up, Wesley!" drop (and relay a story we heard about our favorite actor, Biff Yeager)!

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I'm Adam Pranaka. And we've banked a lot of these shows way ahead of time. And so there's just kind of a strange lag effect where like this is going to come out weeks from when we record it, but this is kind of when the first wave of people actually started discovering our show. So I'm a wash in a whole new kind of shame where like literally 30,000 episodes have been listened to all of a sudden. Yeah, I think, you know, we've alluded to it

over the course of our season so far, like to sort of joking about how there's tens of people listening to us at that moment. That's something that we made fun of. And now it is very, very serious. Yeah, we had our fingers crossed that only 10 people would be listening. And our wishes have really not been fulfilled on that mark.

I think we could have gotten ourselves off the hook at some point and just stopped doing the show early on and now... Now it's like we're chained to someone's basement and having to put these out. There's really no choice anymore. Yeah. Yeah, it's like when Anthony Weiner attempted to lie about the fact that he was sending pictures of his ding-dong to people over the internet. You know, it's like that we can't do that. We just have to lean in.

They're like, yeah, we sent pictures of our penis to people over the internet. Yes. That is exactly what we're doing. Every time you don't hear me talk on the show, that's just me taking pictures of my dick and sending them out. And it's even money, which is the more embarrassing thing you're doing at that moment. Let's start the episode. We've got season one, episode 12, data lore. This is the first episode where we start to really get some backstory on data. The enterprise is heading for a computer maintenance stop, which they desperately

need. Based on some of the things that have befall on the ship so far. I hope a locksmith is coming as a part of that package. But Picard decides to stop off at Amacron Theta, a planet that's on the way, and it's the site of a federation colony that vanished years ago, and the Starship Tripoli was the ship that responded to this catastrophe, and the only thing that the Tripoli recovered was the body of Commander Data. So, data and an away team beamed down to the surface of this planet, and it is all dried out and dead. It used to be a lush planet with farmland, and now there's plants and things, but they're all dried out, which I didn't think was like a great choice from the set department.

Like I feel like if a planet has been completely lifeless for 20 years, it's not gonna look like just like a dried out, you know, dried out grass and dried out trees, it's like that's just gonna fall down. Yeah, but here's the thing. When you're a set designer on the first season of a science fiction show, the planet looks like what you have available.

Yeah. And what you have available is some dried out trees and styrofoam rocks. Yeah, it's what they had available in the last couple of times they've been down to. Yeah. They're just sort of taking the camera and rotating it in a clockwise fashion, just sort

of getting some different looks. And changing the color of the, of the psych every time. Yeah. I think it's like kind of an orange psych this time. It might have been green last time. Some real Thai restaurant lighting effects there. So they, they kind of go to the spot where data was discovered, which is this carved out slab of cement on a natural looking,

at least to the untrained eyes of the crew of the enterprise, natural looking rock formation. To me, it looks like a big hunk of styrofoam, but I guess because George's visor can kind of see things that they can't, they realize that it's in fact the entrance to an underground bunker and they discover the laboratory of Dr. Nunean Sung who is the roboticist who created data. And I guess he traveled to the colony under an assumed name. He was thought by the Federation to have disappeared, but he popped up at this colony.

And. They also thought him to be kind of a quack, right? Yeah, yeah. They kind of talk around it a little bit, but he was like shamed and then he left. Well, it's weird they say like, oh, he was that idiot that was trying to make a positronic brain.

And like they're standing right next to data Well, it's yeah, it's weird they say like oh, he was that idiot that was trying to make a positronic brain and and like they're standing right next to data who has a positronic brain. It's like a Positronic brain that's ridiculous, you know That's literally the dumbest thing anyone could spend their life trying to make Didn't see a standing there I didn't see a standing there. So the two things that they find in this bunker, which they discover to be like a huge bunker that could have easily housed all of the colonists, they find some children's pictures of this kind of snowflake-looking thing with people running in terror from it.

And they find a bunch of parts that are data parts, essentially. They look like, you know, data's torso and hands and feet and legs. And there's a definite butt too. Yeah, there's a good butt and a really, really bad styrofoam data head. Yeah. Oh, but this may be just something that they kind of weren't able to do in the 80s,

because I remember this being something true of like bad horror films in the 80s too, whenever somebody's head is supposed to come off, it always looked bad. Like I feel like it's awesome now. Like if you watch, like any blonde order or whatever, if somebody's head is found severed, it's like perfect now.

But I guess in the 80s, it was hard to cover up those seams and hard to find a natural hair wig that can match Brent Spiner's lustrous locks. Yeah, for some reason, it's the hair that outs the bad makeup design, like the bad mannequin for some reason. Like, you can forgive a janky look and face, I feel like, but when you like turn the head around in your hands and the cut isn't the same, that seems like the easiest part, but I mean, I've never done a It's a beam back aboard with all of this crapola and chief engineer Argyle and Dr. Crusher are tasked with helping data put this all back together.

I think I didn't realize that chief engineer Argyle was still a going concern, but I guess he is. Yeah, I was tickled to see him in this scene, and he sort of took a leadership role in assembling him. Yeah. I think now might be a good time to talk about the legend of Argyle as a character, because I don't know that we see him again in the show. Yeah, this may be the last time he appears. So, we talked before about Biff Yeager. Biff Yeager, one of the great time he appears. So we talked before like about Biff Yeager. Biff Yeager, one of the great actor names ever.

Of all time. Biff Yeager evidently had a pretty big confidence in himself for that reason and many others. So much so that so he gets, this is a story that was told by Will Wheaton on another show. So this is like me playing telephone with his story. But the legend goes that Biff Yeager,

a couple episodes into the show is like, I am kicking ass at this. I need to make sure that I stay on this show as one of the main characters. So here's what I'm gonna do. I'm gonna take all my friends, I'm gonna get them to write letters to Paramount telling them how Awesome this chief engineer our guy is and and this flood of fan mail is gonna keep me on the show forever

The consequence of this is the people of Paramount are like why the fuck are we getting all this Fan mail for our guy. He's had exactly eight speaking lines, like this ridiculous. And why is all the mail coming from the same zip code? And why is it all coming in like hot on the heels of episodes airing and in some cases before the episode even air? Yeah, it's ridiculous. So they get wind of this and they're like, Biff, come on, band.

You fucked up. You really, you really biffed that one, biff? We're writing you out of the show. They didn't even give him the respect of giving him a storyline that writes him out. Like, he isn't killed heroically, as I recall. No, he just disappears. He just disappears.

And that's the story of Biff Yeager, as Argyle. Rest in peace, Argyle. Hashtagag hubris. Hashtag our guy hubris. You know what, I do feel a great sense of confidence and hubris whenever our guy is involved from a clothing standpoint. Maybe that's what Biff was feeling when he started that letter writing campaign. Yeah, totally. I mean, I don't often leave the house without an art guy alsock on. And if your whole name was art guy, I feel like your chest would just be swole out. A single art guy alsock, like a red hot chili pepper would wear. Ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha That's beautiful. A Greatest Gen Live Show is something you don't want to miss.

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the last couple little fine-tuning adjustments and it's two identical androids lying there. And eventually, you know, Picard comes in and data is up and about in his uniform. And, um, Laura kind of like pops his eyes open. What are we doing with those made first? He was. But they found him to be imperfect, and I was made to replace him. I was built first. N, he's a bully immediately. You may call me lore. Yeah, anybody, anybody who's watching from home can

immediately tell that he's off. He's a little, something's off about him because he has a twitch in his face and he's also just a full blown dickhead. Which, data has never been and he's also just a full blown dickhead. Yeah. Which, data has never been. And he identifies himself as lore, hence the title of the episode. There's then a scene in Picard's Ready Room where Picard and data, Picard basically like puts to data a question of loyalty. Like what's gonna go down as far as having this brother in your life. And Data says,

my loyalty is to you. And then they walk out onto the bridge and riker and Jordy and I guess Wes is there, maybe even Worf. They're just showing lore like how to work the op station on the bridge. That scene was so ridiculous, Ben. It seems like a really bad security measure to have a guy like who is completely perfectly indistinguishable from your second and command or your second officer on board, the flagship of your star fleet Just teaching him everything he would need to know if you know for example

He happened to decide to hijack the enterprise He's basically a superhero. He has super strength. He can impersonate anyone's voice He's super smart. He does things Faster than anyone possibly could. He is so dangerous. And they watch him totally big dog data in sick bay. So people have an understanding that he could be kind of an asshole. But that's not enough for them to pursue that question of security any further.

The real question they want to know is whether or not data is going to grow down with them at any point. Like wrong question, guys. Yeah, one little moment in here, when I think lore kind of questioned Wesley's abilities or something, data says he has a child's body, but we have found him to be much more. And that sort of made me wonder if data

is in on Picard's regime of molestation. Oh God, I didn't consider that. And I didn't give that line reading that kind of context. But thank you. Thank you for bringing that to my attention. Yeah. And then the other thing is that, you know, Tasha, you know, asks whether we can trust data in this context. But nobody ever brings up, like, not the issue of trusting data, but the fact that nobody could possibly tell them apart from just a visual standpoint. It's more transparent than the parent trap, right? Like, they're not just twin sisters,

or whatever, like with different clothing. They are exactly the same, and they are super genius and super strong. Like, they would be terrifying if they decided to work together, and it turns out they are terrifying when one of them is a bad guy. My love is a piece of long and chill for that which longer than us at the PC. How do you know you're not the one who did it? Yeah, so Laura winds up back in data's quarters and they detect that he is sending subspace signals to what they do not know.

I think they send a wharf to keep an eye on him and there's a scene where Laura beats the shit out of wharf in the turbo lift, establishing his super strength. Yeah, wharf gets the shit kicked out of him in that it was like two boxers in a phone booth. Totally. Wharf can take a beating. Like wharf is probably second only to data in terms of strength on the ship. So.

Right. So, you know, all this stuff is going down this crystalline entity, which suspiciously looks exactly like the pictures that terrified children left in the lab. Yeah. Yeah. These pictures are hilarious. It's like a crystal pine cone in the center and then people screaming and dying, like cartoonishly drawn, running away from it.

Yeah. And everyone who looks at these pictures is just like, huh, these children's paintings sure are unsophisticated and weird. Nothing to worry about here. And all of the same thing and also weirdly the only evidence of anything other than like the laboratory itself in this bunker. There's no other personal effects of any kind, just these pictures that are up on a wall somewhere. Yeah, like objectively,

they are pictures of a terror scene, like rivers of blood and screaming people, but I think I see here, go about your business. Yeah, so data goes to check out what's going on in his quarters. And this is like a clear moment where you don't leave your laptop open without, you know, the password in place. Like, this is pretty like another security failing on the enterprise. Yeah, data left his Facebook open and now, now shit's going to get really bad for him.

Yeah. So, so data gets there and is basically immediately incapacitated by lore. You know, data is kind of more naive than he would need to be to identify that lore is an evil mastermind. Lore pushes his button, right? Yeah, and so, yeah, so the one thing that comes out in this episode is that data has an off switch on the small of his back, and he reveals this to Dr. Crusher initially, and she asks him

about it and he says, like, I keep it a closely guarded secret, and you probably would too, if you had one. I feel like Tashi Yare also knows about that, right? Or is it lore pretending to be data and faking it all? She's seen all of him. Yeah. I'm sure she's seen all his switches. Switches that do all kinds of things. Yeah.

So then, I guess Wesley goes down to see what's going on in data's quarters. Lord has monologueed his evil plan to incapacitated data, so we know what's going on now, but Crusher has to play dumb to make Lord believe that he's not going to put his business out in the streets. And then for the rest of the episode, Wesley is like insisting to Picard that... Captain, recommend that you do not let him roam the ship freely. The person that they think is Commander Data is in fact lore and he's up to something and he's doing something evil and everybody's just like they tell Wesley to shut up a bunch of times.

Sir, I know this may finish me as an acting ensign, but shut up Wesley. Wesley's the only one that's seen Parent Trap. Right. The entire crew, he knows what's up. Mm-hmm. So we come to understand that Lord is in incahuts with this crystalline entity, which is a some kind of space-faring creature that feeds on life forces. It's what ate all of the life force on Amacron Theta and killed the colonists and all of their farmland and everything, and its next victim is going to be the enterprise, if Lorcan figure out a way for the enterprise to drop its

shields long enough for the entity to do its dastardly deed. So the evil android as data suggests that they beam a tree into space to and then shoot it with the phasers to show this entity what their what their ship is made of. And that is the stupidest plan. The stupidest demonstration of power that I could ever think of. Yeah, but of course to beam something off of the ship, they will have to drop the shields. Right. So, Laura goes down to one of the cargo holds, which has a large format,

transporter in it. And at this point, Wesley and Dr. Crusher have been kicked off the bridge for being so impertinent as to suggest that data's identical twin was impersonating him. They go to data's quarters and find data passed out on the floor. They revive him and they all get to the cargo bay just in the nick of time to put the kibosh on lower- evil plan and there's a pretty fun like cargo bay brawl between data and his identical Android brother lore just pretty

well shot it's very believable as like two identical people played by the same actor kicking the shit out of each other anytime you get an action scene with guys winging 50 gallon drums around the room. Oh, yeah. That's pretty fun to watch. They shoot it wide so you get to see all that. It's not like a modern action scene blocking where you're in close and you don't see those details. It was a lot of fun. Yeah.

It's a real hoot and it ends with data kind of flinging lore onto the transporter pad right as Wesley gets up to the controls. He throws the switch, and lore is beamed into space, and because the crystalline entity doesn't have a Confederate onboard the ship anymore, it high-tales it out of there. And I guess the Enterprise resumes its journey to get its computers refit. It's said at the very end that like, lor's gone permanently, like Wesley says this, and everyone believes it.

But I mean, do we know if data and lore can exist in space without a space suit? Because this ending felt to me very much like the end of aliens, where Ripley blows the queen out of the cargo hatch. And she's like, well, that's done, like dust off her hands and like considers her enemy dead. It seems to me like they should have done a little scan to see if there's a floater outside, see if floors flapping around

out there. And one would think data would know if he could exist outside in space, but he says nothing about it. Yeah, you would wish that they would address that. I mean, we have her data talk about when, you know, if you prick me, do I not leak? So we know that he does have some kind of... Does Tasha turn me on? Do I not bone? Ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha when they're about to reactivate lore and Riker turns data and says,

data, does he have all of your parts? Data is like, yeah, yeah, it does. Made me realize that Riker is a little bit jealous of what data has got going on in the underpans department. At any point, like Riker was on that away team, he could have turned around the the butt part and found out for himself. Yeah. Yeah. I mean, he, he, as soon as they get into that lab, you'll notice that he sent Tasha and Wurf out to explore the rest of the thing. I think that was in an effort to sort of have those parts to himself. Do you don't recon? Yeah. And I guess, yeah, for some reason, he stayed a little coy about that. I thought this was a cool episode. I definitely had some problems with it. Yeah, there's some missteps, but it is really fun.

Especially at the end, like the whole unresolved enemy floating out in space thing just seems like a classic thing that's going to come back to bite you in the ass. Yeah. Eventually. Well, it seems like if he's out in space, he doesn't like, like, it's going to be so easy for them to incapacitate him while he's out there. So why not turn him off, take him apart, and move on. Leave him in Tasha's room.

Where parts of him are just used as a Sivian machine. Oh, God. I really hope that would never hear anybody say that word out loud. Would you think of lore cosbeying data with a glass of champagne? What, like, I thought it was fascinating that there was something that you could put in a drink to give data that would, uh, that would fuck him up. Yeah. Well, they, they, yeah, they say well they say like he was procuring some materials and data says like this is kind of no different from you going and looking for medicine

for yourself, I think nothing of it, no danger. They never really considered the possibility that lore might be super evil, which I feel like they should see coming. Yeah. I mean, I guess I've never been introduced to somebody and harbored the notion that there's a potential for them to be super evil, you know. I guess it's not like something that you think of automatically.

So you're the robot doctor and you're making robots in your cave lab and you make lore and you decide that lore is not the sort of robot that you want to make. Yeah. So you make a second robot and that's data. Why don't you tell data about the super dangerous first robot if that is the order of operations as the robot scientist? Yeah. the order of operations as the robot scientist. Yeah, well, so, because data has memories,

but they're like the memories of the colonists, and I guess he was never activated while soon was present. It would be nice if he had left like a, like an instruction manual or something with all the parts saying like, you know, this is a model that's a little bit, a little bit off, a little bit dangerous. He could have left a crayon drawing of a crudely sketched lore in the middle

and like... With children running away from it. Yeah. That's their primary means of communication. Yeah, they would have been like, I wonder what this could mean. Yeah. communication. Yeah, they would have been like, I wonder what this could mean. Yeah. Hey Ben, do you have a drunk Shemota for this episode? Grinnavo! Drunk Shemota! Drunk Shemota is the time in every episode where we nominate the

characters who's enjoying themselves the most or does something completely ridiculous that we don't understand. This award is named after an assistant chief engineer, Shimoto from episode two. I got to go with Picard for this episode. I just feel like, you know, Picard is very concerned about the potential security threat of this at first, but really doesn't consider the actual means by which lore could become a security threat, only the possibility that data might be disloyal to him. And then for the rest of the episode is just incredibly dismissive of anybody suggesting

that the identical twin of his second officer could take on the identity of his second officer. Shut up Wesley. Yeah, bad form captain. It's just a, it's something that's happened a whole bunch of times so far in this season where, you know, a character could have just entertained the possibility for a second and had it not be such a big problem for everybody. Classic captain.

Shut up. My drunk Shemota is going to be Wesley, who in true drunk in fashion, like can't control himself from like standing up for a station and yelling at the captain about the fact that data might be lower and vice versa. That seems like he's pretty drunk with confidence at that point. He doesn't care who he's yelling at, especially when it's the captain.

It might be the only time that he yells at the captain. Most of the time I imagine he's bound and gagged by him. And so, my nomination for this episode is Wesley. It's not something that you see much on this show, characters defying the command structure. Yeah, and they're given Wesley a lot to do. It feels like he's on the rise. If you're buying stock, it must be buying stock in some Wesley at this point. Get that rookie card now

What do we have coming up next week? Next week is episode 13 angel one While the away team struggles to save male fugitives on a planet run by women. The enterprise is ravaged by a highly infectious virus. I remember the planet run by women part of this, but I don't remember anything about this virus. I think I remember, is this the planet that's run by, yeah, the leader of this planet looks like Sarah Connor from Terminator 2, that's the thing that I remember.

And Riker totally totally bones, right? Yeah, there's definitely, yeah, and like so, the gender roles have been perfectly reversed where women are big and tough and men are diminutive and effeminate. And Raiker kind of like puts on the garb of the men of their society, which shows a lot of Harry Manip, which is a, you know, good look for him, I would say. The women want to do snooze-new to him in the future Rama parlance. Yeah, well, the Riker is a sex object. What was the reception of this episode like? One of the more cutting reviews was it was filler and boring filler at that. We've seen all this before and it was barely interesting the first time around. A horrible

episode on so many levels. Wow, well I guess we're committed to the idea the two of us without having any vetoes without it. Yeah since we had Mutually assured veto destruction a couple episodes We we shall watch this and we shall report back next week We'll do this together. We're here for you. I've been Ben Harrison I've been Adam Pranaka. We will see you next time. Sorry. Oh

Yeah, and also we're sorry Make it sound, make it sound.