The Greatest Generation - The Modesty Arch (VOY S4E13)
Episode Date: August 22, 2022When the crew of Voyager starts dreaming about the same person, they must figure out if they’re under attack or just overslept. But when the man of their dreams becomes the monster of their nightmar...es, they’ll have to fight back in both the dream world and the real world. What color is your alert? Is there a limit to how long a person can hold out before cohabitating? How dangerous are the consequences of pre-celebration? It’s the episode that falls into the “dump” category or the “class” category! Support the production of The Greatest Generation.Friends of DeSoto for Democracy.Friends of DeSoto for Justice.Follow The Game of Buttholes: The Will of the Caretaker!Music by Adam Ragusea & Dark MateriaFollow The Greatest Generation on Twitter, and discuss the show using the hashtag #GreatestGen!The Greatest Generation is on Twitch.Facebook group | Subreddit | Discord | WikiSign up for our mailing list!
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Welcome to the greatest generation.
The Star Trek podcast by a couple guys just a little bit embarrassed about
having a Star Trek podcast. I'm Adam Pryanaka.
I'm Ben Harrison. I can tell you were really just thinking about all of the implications
of having a Star Trek podcast
where you said that.
I really wasn't.
What happened was that I started talking
without having a breath in my lungs first.
You ever do that?
I run into this all the time when we're recording ads.
It's like I write up out all my copy
and I try to make it sound like it's loose and conversational.
That's what you're at.
There's so much better than mine
because you actually think about it in my head at time.
But like you can really box yourself invocally
by breathing at the wrong point.
Yeah, absolutely.
And so your pauses end up being in the wrong spot.
It's messed up.
You would think that after 400 some odd episodes of this show
and 100 some odd episodes of greatest discovery, etc.,
etc.
I mean, all of the other podcasts that we've recorded
over the years, we would be better at this.
But we're not, we're not getting any better.
I'm not gonna put it that way.
I'm just gonna put it like this.
We're learning all the time.
Mmm.
Mmm. Mmm. That's me injecting positivity into this thing.
That's your role in the show.
I know, right?
Some big stuff this week at this episode
is coming out August 22nd.
Just days from the beginning of Star Trek Las Vegas, and also
days from the expected due date of my child.
Wow.
So we both have something to be excited about here.
Yeah, I really fucked this up when I was attempting to conceive. I didn't look at the calendar and work out when STLV was going to be relative to the conception
date.
I blew it.
I'm going to miss you, man.
I am so excited to get out there this year and devastated to leave you behind.
I think going to STLV with you has been a really fun yearly thing that I look forward to
because I don't want you to take this the wrong way.
It is weird being in Vegas with you because I see it through someone's eyes who is not
an enthusiast and I think that helps.
Like, you get used to a relationship to a place like this and many years I don't see it for what it is,
but you really do.
And it's, and I think it keeps me out of trouble.
That doesn't keep me out of all of the trouble.
No, no, no, no.
But like, we're a good, yin and yang for Vegas.
And it's gonna be weird to be there without you
because I'm just gonna be all yin. Yeah, yeah,. You're you're riker with minuet in the holodeck and I'm Picard coming in like
Yeah, I see some of the terms of this
Yeah, I have a question for you is it's not at the Rio this year, right? They're they moved hotels
They moved it to the ballies and I'll say at this moment in time, I haven't booked
where I'm staying yet. But I will say this, not going to stay at the Balleys. The Balleys
by the time Stratroch Las Vegas happens might not even be Balleys anymore. It was bought
in by the Bignons Casino Corporation. Bignons.
Bignons about Balleys? by the Binions Casino Corporation. Binions.
Binions about Bally's?
Yeah, Binions is notable for being previously a downtown Las Vegas Casino where they used
to have the World Series a poker for like decades and decades.
It was famous for it.
And now Binions is coming back to the strip and taking over Bally's.
Bally's is kind of a weird hotel to me.
And I don't know if we've spent much time there, you and me at Star Trek Las Vegas is past.
I don't think I've ever been to it. I used to get jobs from this really funny Irish mafia, New Jersey guy who would occasionally land us like a video gig in Las Vegas and we would like drive up and down the strip
and he'd be like, the Mirage is a dump, the Bally's,
it's a dump.
Now, the Venetian, that's a class joint
and like every hotel on the strip fell into the dump category
or the class joint category
and he was very stridently opinionated about this
and like, you know, mostly it's predictable.
Circus, Circus, obviously a dump.
Sure.
Like, he is like such a creature of like movie Vegas,
you know, he is like, I'd say Irish gangster,
Irish mafia, like as a joke about the kind of like
cultural signifiers of his personality.
But those cultural signifiers are heavily catered to
by Las Vegas in a way that my cultural signifiers are not.
So. It's really a place that leans in.
Yeah, yeah. It was fun to see the place through eyes like that also.
Right, right. I think it's unusual that the convention's being held there
and I looked it up and I read the Wikipedia article and it was like, oh, yeah, one of the worst fires in American history happened in Bally's because they didn't have
Fire suppression systems in every room the way they do now. It's weird to think about a time in this country where you could stay in a high-rise hotel
Yeah, where there was not a fire extinguisher, you know, in your ceiling.
And several of them.
It's a, man, like, I feel like every old hotel is like, every, like, director in Hollywood
where you scroll down their Wikipedia page to the controversies and it's like, every one
of them has a story like that probably.
Yeah.
I mean, obviously the place was fixed and codes were changed.
So now, I mean, staying in a Vegas hotel is dangerous for the fire that occurs to your
bank account, primarily.
But in a metaphorical sense.
Exactly.
Yeah.
Yeah, I don't know where I'm going to stay.
But I know we have a, a, and by we, I mean me, I guess I need
to set up a Kavanaugh party.
Yeah.
And they're somewhere, and I guess it's gotta be at Bally's.
The Bally's Kavanaugh.
Gotta do it.
Gotta do it, man.
We gotta keep the friends at the Soto well drunk
for an afternoon, as is our way.
I hope you pour an entire hoof drink out
or whatever the equivalent is at the ballies for me.
God, I do it, man.
I'll be missing you.
We will also lute you with our Miriam hooves, man.
You will be missed big time.
And if the baby's not there by the time you do the big hang,
FaceTime me in or something, you know? Hell yeah. Absolutely will. If the baby's not there by the time you do the big hang,
face time me in or something, you know? Hell yeah.
Absolutely will.
I think we'll open up the beer cooler
on the underside of the lid.
We'll gaff tape in an iPad and we'll be like it right there.
People will be like from your view
reaching at your junk and pulling out aluminum cans of beer.
Yeah, I'll be going through the checklist, making sure that our go-bag has all the things in it
that it needs.
Yeah, man.
Anything could happen this week.
Big exciting week.
Well, we did a big exciting episode
of Star Trek colon Voyager that we watched today.
Do you want to get into it, Adam?
I'm on my way there, Ben.
Already.
It's mid-season four of Star Trek Voyager.
I can't believe we're already in middle of season four.
I don't get it.
It feels like it's really moving fast.
This series is gonna be over before we know it,
but for right now, let's take a moment
for Star Trek Voyager season four episode 13.
Waking moments.
Reaver course.
Unless you've got something a little bigger in your torpedo tubes, I'm not turning around. your season 4 episode 13, waking moments. Reaver course.
Unless you've got something a little bigger
in your torpedo doots, I'm not turning around.
Oh, hard.
Been an episode title that comes with an apostrophe
on the Paramount Plus app in a way that broke my
proofreader's heart.
I could not deal with this apostrophe.
What is going on over there at the Paramount Plus app?
How is that possible?
Because I have the...
Are you seeing this?
I have Paramount as like an add-on to my Apple TV app.
Uh-huh.
It was also there.
It doesn't have it on mine.
Really?
Yeah.
I could swear I saw it on Apple TV yesterday
and when I saw it today it it had the apostrophe, but...
Damn.
That a good look.
Yeah.
Very embarrassing.
Unless they mean it with an apostrophe?
Yeah.
Waking moments blank.
Possessive.
Yeah.
I one time after I graduated from college interviewed for and did not get a job writing capsules and episode information
for television shows. It was like a company that was like, we see the future, the future
is streaming and little episode descriptions for every episode of every show ever made.
They're going to be needed and they were prepared to pay me like $400 a week to like literally like watch
TV and write episode descriptions. I didn't get the job. But I mean like I kind of think that
that's like probably who is doing most of this work is like fresh out of school or like new to
the job market types of folks that are know, not making a ton of money,
not getting a ton of oversight in what they're doing. So I get it. It's hard for me because I am
especially sensitive to the copyrighting aspects of all things. Yeah. That is a previous life that I
have not been able to get out of my blood. Like, I'm almost entirely an ex-filmmaker at this point, but I will always be a writer in that way.
Well, this episode starts with a bunch of different little vignettes, and we kind of cut around to them.
The first is Kim getting pulled into a tube with seven on his walk home.
He was just trying to get home from work.
I love this arm swinging, Ensign Kim through the corridor.
Like, when you're on your way to work,
you don't swing your arms.
I think we know that.
No, you've got a coffee in one hand,
a folded up newspaper in the other hand,
smog and cigarette.
Yeah.
Tuvac wakes up, he's got to get to the bridge.
It's like, what time is it that Kim, Kim is just getting off work and two boxes,
just is just like deep in a sleep?
That is the first thing that makes you feel strange, right?
The across timeness of this cold open.
Yeah, because also like the next one is
Janeway going into the restaurant and it's all shut down
and the lights aren't on and nobody's there.
JTO always comes out and greets.
Let's go.
So it's like, I did Kim pull like a third shift or even a fourth shift?
I mean, that's Jellico's dream right there.
I don't want to talk about it.
Working that fourth shift.
I've got to say Ben, if I'm the captain of the Voyager and I walk into the mess hall and Nielix isn't there,
red alert.
Because where else would he be?
Yeah.
He's kind of a workaholic.
What color are Loyola roots?
That should be the color of alert.
Boy, that's a hard thing to say, the color of alert.
The color of Loyola roots is the color of the alert.
That's a vocal warmup that we do before.
We record an episode of the greatest generation.
I do mine with a stack of crackers in my mouth.
Ben, are we done with the Holodeck program?
That's the resort.
We used to be there all the time and now no one goes.
It feels like it's been forever since we've been there.
I think that the Maestro's workshop
felt like it was replacing that,
but it was also only for Janeway.
It'd be great if we brought side slits shorts,
shlong guy into the Leonardo da Vinci program.
That would have been awesome.
Where his jack-off machines are getting practical experiments?
If they ever bring sundreams back and he's just in there,
that would be good.
The Vic Fontaine program in DS9,
I feel like Voyager took the idea of a regular holodeck hang
and ran with it in a way.
I think toward the end of the series,
it's more like, hey, this season,
this is the kind of environment we hang out in.
Yeah.
I mean, I get it, you get bored with things.
But I do like the kind of infinite holodeck programs
and infinite combinations of a long-term mission like this.
Right.
I'd like to go back sometime.
Sides long guy in the Renaissance would be really exciting.
Yeah.
The Leonardo da Vinci would be particularly excited about that guy.
It's hot too.
Yeah, he's really got that Renaissance dick, huh?
What would a Renaissance dick even be?
Like, it would just have a lot of realistic shadows.
It follows you around the room.
Yeah.
It's always looking.
So, yeah, we come to realize that these are dreams.
There's a bunch of different ones that we see
and many that we don't.
We only hear described later, but they're all,
like, dreams on a scale of getting to make out with Seven of Nine in Harry's case to like
Shuttle explosion in Paris's case to showing up to work in the buff in two box case
But they all feature this one man with like a a fang coming out of his chin. That's bone a really unusual alien a Star Trek aliens go
I think. Yeah.
Because he's not a symmetrical in a way so many of them are with the loaf.
Yeah.
It must be hard to keep coming up with new ideas for loafy guys.
This guy appears in kind of a funny way in all of these vignettes, right?
Like sometimes he's just there watching Kim and Seven make out. Sometimes he's just in
Nielix's mess hall when Janeway is shown a booth full of cobweb covered crew people. And then
then the last one he like pops out from below frame outside the windscreen of the shuttle. And I This shuttle and I couldn't help but laugh at that version of it. What's he doing out there?
How's he breathing?
Yeah, very silly.
At the end of our cold open, this guy showing up in all these spooky dreams.
And when we come back, we get Paris waking up.
And I was surprised to learn that Paris and Belana have not merged departments yet.
I hate this.
Paris, I'm looking straight at you in the camera.
Tom, it's me.
It's your buddy.
I really care a lot about you and your happiness.
Yeah.
You need to wait as long as possible.
You've got to hold out.
Right now, you've got the entire bed.
You could starfish on that thing all night.
That goes away the moment you start sleeping with a Klingon. A starfish is without honor in
Klingon culture. I was just thinking about it from her perspective though. Like he's got windows
in his room. She doesn't. Yeah, to step up for her. She real. She moves in with him.
She doesn't yeah to step up for her. She real she moves in with him
Ensign wildman is gonna be jealous of her now. Well everyone moves up if BLT moves out, right? Oh
Shit is probably a lot of pressure from below. I wonder if Ensign wildman then moves in to BLT's old quarters and is like
She fucking moved out and I have to move into her shitty of birth. There's not even a window in here. Where's my kid get asleep?
Fuck!
I love the pocket protector look that BLT's rocking right now.
This is great.
This is the introduction of the engineering jacket, which I may be wrong about this, but
I think was introduced to conceal
the fact that Roxanne Dawson was pregnant during this season.
Correct.
Yeah, the jacket is there to kind of cover up her belly a little bit.
It's working a lot better than the Beverly Crusher cape during Gates McFadden's
pregnancy, right?
Yeah.
Because the dark uniform I think really helps.
And it kind of makes sense that an engineer would have
like a more technically oriented garment.
The tools really draw your eye too.
Yeah, they're good.
Yeah, this is great.
Paris isn't trouble though.
But not the sort of trouble I was expecting.
He blew off breakfast.
But BLT is really forgiving about this.
Yeah, she understands.
You think his balls are in the machine?
They're not getting kicked.
They're just in the machine.
She's got a row of quarters up there on the top of the machine, but she's not putting
them in.
What happens to you?
I've slowed away.
So they make plans for Friday night and this is the what's for dinner question that most
couples go through.
Is it cold weather or hot weather?
It's like a Friday night vacation as date and this is something that I was very, very
familiar with.
Like my wife is a very activity oriented vacationer and I'm a very like lie on a beach
sippin' on jippers oriented vacationer.
Same.
And it's a source of disagreement, you know?
Yeah.
I don't want to do stuff.
I just want to lie around.
I want to have a jazz gummy, turn on a bad Harrison Ford movie from the 90s and pay
30% attention to it.
Yeah, I want my hobby to be how much gummy and how much cocktail I can combine in myself
and still function.
And also just crush all the books I've been trying to finish.
All the books, so many books at them.
Every book.
He wants that Tahiti, Fiji, beachy lifestyle.
Oh no, no, it's her that wants that.
And he wants to go like skiing or whatever
Do you think if you're Klingon you want to vacation in a place that reminds you of Stovacore?
Like heat I mean
Hot place is Stovacore hot or is it just shitty?
But they want to go to Stovacore. Yeah, Stovacore is Klingon heaven. Yeah, so what's where's fecalar?
This fecalar fuck around with Stovacore at Yeah, Stovocore is clean on heaven. Yeah, so what's where's feclar? This feclar
fuck around with Stovocore at all. I don't know. I think to a lot of clean-ons they feel
like feclar isn't a real thing. You know, it's just about power. Right. And systems. Yeah.
It's like scaring people into behaving well and it's like it should they need that. Yeah,
that's what the honors for. Yeah.
You know what?
You either want to be honorable or you don't.
And if you're treating me with honor just for some reward down the road, save it.
I don't want to.
Yeah, keep your fucking honor.
Yeah.
Paris is like having gotten free of the ball kicking machine, he wanders into the mess hall
and he is straight up bedraggled in there.
And Nelix loads him up with some coffee.
And no breakfast, no breakfast at all.
Parris is keeping it tight.
He's like, I'm doing an intermittent fasting thing, Nelix, so I don't want any calorie
dense foods in my mouth right now.
And Nelix is like, all right, man, well,
here's that cuppa, and Paris takes a big squig,
and it's full of cooking oil.
I watched this take over and over again,
and I think it's great.
Why does Nelix keep cooking oil in a picture?
Is it a question I had.
It seems very unsafe.
Yeah.
I mean, it's more unsafe than it is disgusting, I think.
Because if that oil is much hotter than what it is.
Yeah.
I mean, that's gonna be a real scorcher.
Like, sotain the inside of Paris's mouth.
Paris won't be going to Tahiti or on the ski trip.
But the way he spits it back into his cup,
I thought was big fun.
Yeah, it was great.
Does he get a new cup or does Nielix dump the cup
in the sink and then fill it back up with coffee?
This is like a weird take on bulletproof coffee
that is somehow more disgusting.
Yeah, everybody on the bridge is pretty groggy. Nobody had a great night's sleep.
And pretty, pretty soon, the topic of their dreams comes up there.
Paris has discussed bad dreams with Nielix already.
But now the captain and Chicoetay and Tuvac and Paris are all talking about it.
And it is very quickly that they all
Reveal to each other that this one man
Tim Maa was in the dream
They have got to feel so fortunate that this alien and everyone's dream looks the way that they do
Because if this is your typical nose ridge Star Trek alien, I think this flies by
Conversationally without being picked up at all.
So I had some kind of like loaf
and just general amounts on his face.
Yeah, my dream too.
Huh.
That happens.
Yep.
We're on Star Trek.
Harry has not shown up for work.
And if I was having Harry's dream,
I probably wouldn't get up either.
If I were having Harry's dream, I would be terrified of someone being able to enter my
room while I was dreaming that dream. Because let me tell you something, that sequined
blanket is going to be standing up like a tent. What time is it in Harry Kim's quarters? I don't know, shine a light on that sundial.
Well, it looks like we've reached base camp.
The captain and two-box do go down there and force his door open.
And he has a sleep and not getting up.
And this is a like turn to each other to commercial kind of moment.
Yeah, they got to get them to six bay and that is where the doctor has quite a few crew people
on biobad saying that they're in hyper REM sleep. Yeah.
That's when you put the REM record on the turntable at the wrong speed, right?
They're a little too fast.
right? Man, a little too fast.
That's how it reveals that it's really a record with a message from Fechlar, right?
Right.
Did you feel tired watching this episode at any point?
You were a textick me about feeling tired during the day today and I was wondering if that
was partly inspired by this episode,
or if you just got shitty sleep for regular reasons.
It's like that thing where you see someone yawning
and it triggers a yawn in you.
Yeah.
There is no yawning in this episode also, which is curious.
But it's curious.
It gave me that feeling throughout
of really wanting to take a nap.
The feeling our show often gives people when they listen to it.
Yeah, that's why so many people listen to it to go to sleep.
Uh-huh.
I mean, it's especially here is that they're not yawning because the doctor orders people
to try and avoid sleep because it seems like some people are falling all the way to sleep
and can't be woken up.
He's tried everything.
The doctor is so crazy here.
He's like, look, I don't have a solution to this problem.
I don't really even know what the problem is.
But here's what I recommend for everyone,
trucker speed.
And he gestures toward a wall of just like single pill
in package, crazy label and named named like $10 per pill. Somehow there's like
all Lexan walled in checkout booth in the corner of 6 Bay now. Yeah there's
like a great emphasis on on the sexual potency of this also? Yeah, weird. So it keeps me awake and it increases manliness size.
Huh.
Cool.
So everyone does their trekker speed
and makes for the McLaughlin group.
Is your wand.
Later where the group kind of does a collaborative police
sketch on this alien.
And this works so much better than you think it would.
Yeah, really reminded me of the character
designed part of Skyrim or similar yeah where they're kind of stretching his head out making his
eyes further apart they keep talking about the ridges and I was like is nobody gonna bring up the
fang on the chin that seems like the most notable part of this alien is the bony toothy looking thing coming
off of their chin. That's bony. That bony flavor saver is disturbing to look at in profile, but on
this picture he is an in profile. Yeah, so they don't need the bony toothy thing to identify him,
but when they get the picture dialed in, they're like, all right, so we're under attack in some way.
We don't really know quite how.
And Chicoote comes up with a kind of interesting idea,
which is we gotta do a lucid dream.
Somebody that knows their dreaming needs to go to sleep,
make contact with this guy, figure out what the fuck he wants,
and figure this thing out.
Correct me if I'm wrong.
Is this the second episode in a row where Chico Te has made with the Atari DMT unit?
And it's like, what I think we need to do is hit this device a little bit more.
See what happens.
Hey Chico Te, dependency can turn into addiction.
I'd just be careful with that thing, okay?
Hey, the last time we had a bunch of crew people use the Atari DMT one of them tried to transport themselves into
a nebula medicine is thick medicine is heavy. Jucote is is down to play with some dangerous shit
Sounds great. The dangers aren't ignored by the captain She's like well if you're gonna do this
I'd rather you do it in a controlled environment
with the doctor who just prescribed trucker speed to everyone.
And we get some of the rules, right?
There's like inception, there's some rules to this.
There's tap your hand three times to get out of the dream.
There is the image of Earth's moon to remind you that you are in the dreams.
If you see Earth's moon, that's your system telling you,
hey buddy, you're dreaming, you're dreaming baby.
The EMH hates this plan.
And he's running out of blankets for Harry Kim.
Right.
Yeah, I mean, imagine if Harry Kim had been one
of the ones that woke up and not one of the ones
that was stuck in sleep and he'd been like, oh, I'll do the lucid dream.
Yeah.
Me, me, me, put me in coach.
If I'm Harry Kim, I want you to request a bio bed
with the arch.
Oh, the groin area.
Yeah, I'd probably get one too, just to be safe.
You know how in your living will,
you make a bunch of decisions about what to do if you're
incapacitated?
Yeah.
Arche over the groin is something I want to write into my living will.
Whatever choice is my wife makes about whether or not to pull the plug, give me the arch,
please.
The modesty arch.
It's recorded and released publicly here.
So this is like publishing it in a newspaper. Your request is official here by
Great. Thank you
So Chico Tay is chasing this deer around with the deer spear and
From corridor to corridor they go and
the deer spear. And from corridor to corridor they go. And he finally chases it into the mess hall, probably more convenient to kill the deer in there so it can be dressed and
cooked, right? Right. And get it on the cooktop before it even has time to go bad. That's
what I'm saying. This is where he sees the moon. So he remembers. And the moon feels good.
When it hits your eye like a big pizza pie
That's something you wish Neelix was able to cook
This deer doesn't stay deer for long because it quickly morphs into the alien from before and they start start track fighting
I mean I kind of thought that this alien was gonna be tough as hell initially because it gets this spear out of the equation
Very quickly for a moment. I thought it would be me this alien who's gonna be tough as hell initially because it gets the spear out of the equation very quickly.
For a moment I thought it would be me.
Nope. It just goes from deer to alien. No gold in between.
It's a shame really. I am very far away in a bucket at this moment in time.
But Chicoce gets this guy's arm behind his back pinning him
against a wall and he starts interrogating him. I'm in control. You're mistaken. Am I?
But this guy's like, he's like, hey man, leave me alone. I'm fighting back for the
dream world. You guys coming, this is our our domain. You you colonized, man. The backstory here flies at such a pace.
I was really impressed by it.
You learned just about everything you needed to know
about this alien and the relationship between them
and the Voyager crew in like four sentences.
Yeah.
That was really well done.
Dense.
Turns out distance is gonna be the key key to solving their problem because Chico take
gets right to the heart of the matter.
He's like, look, we've got Anton Kim with a giant erection over in six bay, and we really
need to wake him up because getting past four hours and that's starting to be a concern.
And he's like, oh yeah, I know what that's about.
You just need to steer the ship into this specific system and that'll make you far enough away from us to where this effect we're having is going to go away.
Because it seems like really reasonable, right? Like Chico J's like, we don't want smoke with you.
Like we don't, we have no interest in invading your dream world. We are just passing through.
But the spider never tells the bug like, oh yeah, dude, just get yourself out on that branch
and you'll be free for my web.
Medieval!
Like, there's something weird about how simplistic
the solution to this problem is
and how neutral this alien is about the entire idea
of what they do.
But it seems like there's a deal.
So Chicote taps the back of his hand and he wakes up
and tells the captain like, okay, so like we got a plan,
we just have to point the ship in a particular direction.
I'll fill you in.
And they head up to the bridge to make this happen.
Because it's not that far, like they,
it'll take them a day to get out of range
of these bad aliens.
Yeah, it's right around the corner.
Problem solved, we're out and that's the end of the episode, Adam.
That's what feels so weird, right? Everyone's pre-celebrating band, Yeah, it's right around the corner. Problem solved, we're out, and that's the end of the episode, Adam.
It feels so weird, right? Everyone's pre-celebrating, Ben,
and you know pre-celebration can get someone pregnant.
Fairly easily.
Yeah.
You can also get pregnant celebrating in a hot tub,
and a lot of people don't realize that.
Way too early to count these chickens,
because they arrive at the system, and the crew starts waking up in the 6 Bay
Kim is
Extremely hungry from his dreams. Yeah, he burned a lot of calories while he was down
Yeah, he was down for 17 hours, which just sounds incredible. God couldn't you go for that?
That's just sign me up. Where do I need to sign?
Where's the Indicator? I never do this. I never do this. I'm going to be in Vegas and I'm
going to be running on three hours of sleep every night. When, what I should be doing is on night
one, 17 hours of sleep. What better time could I have than to do it there? You got an opportunity and you're gonna squander it.
Those curtains stay dark forever.
They really do.
Yeah.
So they're flying toward this border, getting really close.
There seems to be like a post-mission period of,
boy, it wasn't that crazy happening in the mess hall, right?
The first thing that I'm gonna do when I get back is to get some decent food.
Because Nielix and BLT you're talking about the Nightmare Nielix had and then Kim wanders
in and he orders everything on the menu because he's had an erection to feed.
One of each.
Yeah.
And Tuvac is there not really wanting to give up anything at all about what his
nightmare was for.
Yeah, they're like very curious about what a Vulcan nightmare is like, and he's like a
Vulcan nightmare is spending 75 years on Voyager with only Ensen Forrick as another instance
of my species aboard.
That is a great call.
Yeah. They get interrupted by a. That is a great call. Yeah.
They get interrupted by a banger and a big one.
And when we get up to the bridge,
I mean, it felt very much like the thing in a dream
where you're being attacked and you try and fight back
or defend yourself and you can't move your arms.
It's like the ship can't shoot.
The torpedo bay isn't working.
The phaser banks aren't working, the shield drop line,
nothing fucking working here.
When did Star Trek decide that approaching ship
was always gonna be two o'clock to eight o'clock?
That's always how they roll up.
Yeah, well I think it might be partly to do with the fact
that they do maintain an eye line with somebody
that's on FaceTime on the screen.
So it's like if the camera is,
is, you know, to the right hand side of the bridge,
it looks like that because, like the sequence.
Yeah, the screen is three dimensional.
Right.
You don't, you never think about it that way, but it is.
Yeah, that makes a ton of sense.
3D view screen.
Guess who's on the screen?
Guy with a big tooth coming out of his chin.
That's bone.
Yeah, chin tooth is there.
I mean, that's not the most remarkable thing about him.
He's won because the Voyager is crippled right now.
Did you say he's won?
Looking a little bit pallid.
Yeah.
That's what I mean. Wow. That's won. Looking a little bit pallid. Yeah, that's what I mean.
Wow, that's sad.
Voyager can't do anything against this guy.
Hey, if that guy played basketball
against Commander Data, would that be won on one?
Yes, yes it would.
All right, just checking.
Should we continue? Yeah, let's keep doing the episode.
I just wanted to check. I wanted to check up on that.
I think it's important to get that straightened out before we go on.
So, yeah, he's basically saying like everything's dampened
and this was all just a ruse to get you here.
And you're sort of going like, is this a dream, or is it not a dream at this point?
Yeah.
And I mean, it seems like not a dream,
because the planetary system that they've had it toward
seems to have been exactly where this guy wanted them to go
and therefore led them right into the trap.
And suddenly there's like a dozen of these dudes
on board the bridge
and they all have the tooth at them.
That's bone.
The tooth is the main thing about them.
Yeah.
It is shocking how quickly they get the jump on the voyage accrue here and it's so fast
that Janeway can't even set auto-destruct.
It's like Vadien fast.
They run this ship and they move everybody down to Seven's cargo bay.
This is another scene that lays bare how much they need the dead band switch for the
auto destruct, right? They really do. Janeway shouldn't have to whisper into the computer.
Yeah, because it's already, it's just going to in the background. This, I saw as I don't say a key phrase.
The computer won't self-destruct, and that key phrase is,
I'm gonna run my finger along the foam on this microphone.
Oh fuck, I just said it.
That sucks.
The dead man's which won't go off in it for another four minutes
The key phrase is vegetable broth
As long as I drink two cups of vegetable broth every four hours the ship won't explode
So they need to see if they can take the ship back and Seven of Nine's idea has all started distraction. Well a couple of other people go see if they can get a jeffries to open and
Chikotia and BLT see if they can mess with main power and
So Seven of Nine jumps Harry came into a fist fight and
Harry is not quick on the uptake with this. Well, he was expecting a different kind of pumbling, I think. Yeah
He had a little bit of recency bias going with what his relationship with 7 was going to be
But while this distraction is happening plt and chicote go over to mess with the power and when they pull the
The cover off of a panel in the wall chicote sees earth's moon in the panel
Yeah, that's now where that goes. So it's like fuck we're still sleeping and
I love this because two of the two of the guards come and like grab his two arms and like try and keep him from telling the back of his hand.
I got what they know that that's his thing.
I thought it was just that they were grabbing him and his arms were the thing that they grabbed.
Do you think that was intentional?
I don't know. It seemed like they were trying to stop him from waking himself up.
Yeah.
But he does. He manages to touch hands. Yeah. And it seems like it really
works this time. Yeah. There he finds the dock and the dock is like bad news. I'm the
only one still awake. Everyone's asleep and it's been 39 hours that you've been out.
A long time. 39 hours of sleep. Imagine Adam. Chicoate is like, hold that, that.
I am terrifically hungry.
I'm gonna go down to the best hall.
You would not believe how badly I need to piss.
That should be it, like the take should be smell.
He comes to and he's like, oh.
Oh.
Are you gonna have to replace this bio bed?
It is soaked! I like that a rubber belt ran just has his character kind of idly tapping the back of his
hand for the rest of this episode, like checking every so often to make sure.
The doc is like, look everyone's asleep but what's more is I've scanned their brains.
And wouldn't you know it?
All of these brain scans match up.
What does it mean?
Well, what it means is they're in the same dream.
It's the dream that Chicote just came from.
The dreams have merged.
They're all in like one shared simulation.
And it's because of this neurogenic field.
And so the key to figuring out what's causing this is to find where some neurogenic fields
are coming from.
That's not something they were scanning for before.
So this gives them a little bit of a lead in the case.
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I've got to get that black wood knife. Are you setting a
nice tone? Go. Back in the dream world, PLT's like,
you'll never believe what happened. Me and Shukote were working on a panel,
and then he said something about a moon, and then he disappeared.
And they're like, you think it was just, it was just a ruse,
he was going to try and show you his butt?
And so they quickly come to the same conclusion
that they're in a shared dream on that end,
on the dream's end and Kim's like,
yeah, it's a good idea, we're not in my dream.
And that's all the detail I'm gonna give you.
Yeah, two bucks, same way.
Yeah. Neelix, I like taking the kind of solipsistic argument, All the detail I'm going to give you. Yeah, two box same way.
Nielux, I like taking the kind of solipsistic argument.
Like, maybe you're all in my dream.
Maybe that's what's going on.
Yeah.
None of you have agency, but I do.
Seven gives this a fun name, collective unconsciousness,
which is kind of an analog to the collective consciousness
we're familiar with from the Borgs.
Yes.
So while they're figuring that out in the dream world,
Chico Te and the doctor are going to like work toward
solving this in the non-dream world.
And they actually hone in on a signal about a light year away
that's a neurogenic field projector of some kind.
Yeah.
And so they head toward it.
They get a tight little group here.
They got two VAC, they've got BLT, and they've got Janeway,
and they've got to make their way to engineering.
But two VACs got to go to webs.
We've got to have webs, he's the key.
They need to be armed for this.
It's unclear like why this phaser would work when the others didn't in this dream world.
Like, exactly.
I don't really know why they wanted to do that, but he gets it and then they should be using
deer spears.
Yeah.
The captain and BLT are working on getting the warp core back up and running.
And it does seem like they sort of like go in and out of believing that they're in
a dream world.
At this point, like, it's a working theory,
but they haven't really seen any evidence
to corroborate it aside from Chico Te tapping himself
on the hand three times and disappearing.
I like that they're kind of going back and forth
between whether or not they fully believe this or not.
I really think that helps.
As a viewer, if they immediately flip the switch in their minds and they're like,
this is just a dream and we can do anything
and we're impervious to being killed right away
for the last 20 minutes of the episode, I think it's a lot less fun.
Yeah, because it keeps you guessing like when they get the warp core up and running
and then it's like a runaway reaction and they have to evacuate engineering
or like, oh dude yeah and then the captain like walks up and
like gives the warp core a great big hug when it goes nuclear. There's coffee and
antimatter explosions and she's just fine. She doesn't even have fallen Samurai
hair. Her hair isn't even must from an exploded warp core right in front of her. She is looking great.
But this confirms the suspicion, right? This is what they needed to do to know for sure this was
dream. Yeah. There was one shot in this sequence that I thought was really amazing, which is
Tuvac and BLT running out of engineering. The camera follows them to the back wall as they catch their breath.
You get the banger of the explosion
and then the camera pans back and the door opens again
and it was like that room was full of smoke
when they ran out of it.
And somehow they evacuated all of the smoke from the room
for when it opens back up again in one continuous shot.
It was really cool.
Yeah, I mean in a sequence like that also serves
the dream logic of the story.
Things just don't fit together logically.
Yeah, so this is the proof that Janeway needs
and she's like, yeah, like I rolled the dice
and I won big.
We are in a dream world, so we know we're not gonna be
killed by dream weapons.
And that's when the captain and the doc go find Chicoetay on the bridge.
And Chicoetay's like, how are you up?
And she's like, well, like I proved to myself that it was a dream, and that's how I woke
myself up.
And it's great news.
This is almost the second end to the episode out of three. Yeah, this is when
Chicoce looks up at the view screen and the doc is like waking everybody else up on the
on the bridge, but the view screen has Earth's moon on it. They're home, Adam! Series over!
I wonder if they ever played with that being what the dream was.
Because that is a really traumatic kind of foundation to it, is if not only are they being
assaulted by aliens in a dream, but it's also within the construction of that kind of hope.
Right, making them think they got the thing they want most.
This he is able to wake himself up from again
But when he wakes up the doc is like dude like we are really close to this neurogenic field
And it's really running you through the ringer
So you're gonna have to fight to stay awake now. You're gonna have to drive straight from Wyoming all the way through
Salt Lake all the way through salt lake, on into Fresno, without stopping.
So I'm gonna give you the big pills.
Yeah.
You're gonna wanna crunch them up
with like the in-cab fire extinguisher into a powder
and then take those things to the dome.
This is the kind of trucker no does
that like a 7-o'-l-hiffin will get shut down
by the federal government for sale. Right. It's the sort of trucker and no-dos that like a 7-o-liphon will get shut down by the federal government for so. It's the sorta trucker speed that makes you eat someone in Florida.
So Jakota he beams down to this planet and he's in some Star Trek games and he finds
a big room where all of these tooth chin aliens, that's bone, are just a sleep,
they're wearing like civilian clothes
and they're just a sleep on the floor together
with no blanket, no nothing.
This scene suffers from the effects of its time.
Yeah.
But as a construction, I thought it was awesome looking
and scary. I mean, the effects aren't bad.
They're just like, they can do as much as they can do, you know?
Chico Tay walks in and he's like, oh, oh, God.
Oh, that is nasty.
They're all pissing themselves.
He's like slush, slush, slashing his boots through the Star Trek cave.
So as he is making this discovery, Janeway is confronting the one alien that's had speaking
lines in the dream world about what's going on and she proves to him that they know that
his weapons can't hurt them.
So she barges into the hanger and tells everybody like, hey,
still a dream, we just need to keep that in mind. And the guys like, well,
not so fast, Captain, you've failed to calculate one thing. You're still dreaming. I control the
vertical and the horizontal. Right. Your bodies are probably pissing themselves as we speak, and I know from
pissing myself. You're slowly being fused to the bio bed.
Where you're sleeping. And the source have started to appear. Yeah.
It's too much work for the doctor to sponge bathe everyone.
Right. She's not going to happen. Yeah, you can't go around checking that many IV bags.
Did you think for a moment,
why didn't Chico take consider,
like Ripley and Aliens, just fucking burning everyone
in that cave?
I know he's a good man and he's not supposed to do that,
but that solves the problem.
It would solve the problem.
I mean, he can't.
Or maybe he turns them face down.
Yeah.
Give them an honorable sleep.
Kill them with kindness.
Yeah.
Yeah.
They never glimpse someone like him.
That would be a super fun callback.
He walks into that cave and he's horrified
that the memesis has buried them all face up.
Team leader, bro, fourth board defense contingent.
The generator is like shielded,
so he can't do anything about it
with the equipment that he has there.
And that's no good.
So he comes up with the dead man switch
that the Voyager should have had the entire time,
which is, I'm gonna try and like wake one of these guys up
with my hyposprae and Doc, you get up to the bridge
and if you don't hear from me in 5 minutes, nuke them from orbit.
I love this idea.
The Doc hates it, but I love it.
I was wondering if the EMH could even do this.
Like, wouldn't it override his programming to fire a weapon, killing a massive number
of people?
Yeah, that does seem to be against his oath as a doctor. It also seems like there should be authentication required to fire a torpedo aboard a starship,
right?
You can't even shoot a Dupada mashed potatoes without an alarm going off.
They think the docs just going to step right up to webs and shoot a torp.
One of the few remaining torps they've got left.
I do imagine.
Yeah.
So Chico Tei wakes one of these guys up
and he's like really getting super sleepy at this point.
But he explains to this dude that, yeah, like,
like I'm a hostage, you're a hostage,
we're all hostages.
But then he falls asleep.
So brutal.
Oh, this is agonizing.
But he falls asleep into the dreams.
So he's able to tell it to the boss guy too.
Yeah, but weren't you like,
oh man, like he drops the phaser and everything.
Oh, I hated this moment.
Yeah, I made it stuff, but I mean,
these guys are fucked one way or the other.
And it's fucked and Chico Tay's favorite, right?
The threat of the torpedo torpedo is enough to persuade them
and we don't even see any of the like stand down.
We don't see the people waking up.
We don't see the guy with the floor squeegee
walking around Voyager.
Right, yeah.
Moving everything toward the drain.
Ensign has, Matt.
Yeah.
Fuck it's 75-year mission
and I'm gonna do this shit the entire time.
Fuck it assholes.
No upward mobility on this ship.
Team up with that guy, you're, he had upward mobility.
Yeah, wonder what ever it happened to him.
So he just didn't show up for work one day.
So yeah, the symptom that everybody's suffering from now is insomnia.
And our button on the episode is a bunch of people goofing around in Neelix's restaurant,
burning the midnight oil because they just can't get to sleep.
This scene had a quality of what it can be like after a show for us.
Like, it is super late.
We find some kind of diner to get the last meal in.
We're super tired, but happy that we just succeeded
in our mission.
Yeah.
And it's that kind of eye.
Or failed, sometimes we fail.
Sure, I mean, we probably mostly failed.
Tell you what, what isn't going to be a failure.
Diner food, one in the morning.
Oh, that shit always hits.
Yeah.
I like seeing what everyone sleeps in.
Yeah.
DuVoc sleepwear, not super different
from what he puts onto a celebrate pricksin' I will say.
I mean, that's part of what makes the image of him
totally naked, so jarring, right?
You usually see the uniform go all the way up his neck.
Right, Yeah.
No matter what he's wearing.
This time it's like he's in a Renaissance painting and his dick just follows you all over the room.
It's subtle.
That's why I found museum going in Europe so titillating.
Did you like this episode Adam?
You know, I'm maybe even to get along with most of the time.
But I don't like bullets, I don't like friends,
and I don't like you.
I just do.
I love a Twilight Zone episode of Star Trek,
and this felt like that, right?
This felt like something written for another series
that just worked comparably with Voyager.
Uh-huh, yeah.
In that way.
And it was like creepy in a fun way.
I feel like creepy is more difficult to write than horror.
And I thought that sustained creepy feeling
nicely pervaded the whole thing.
Yeah, it was tense.
And I love just the fear of not knowing if you're awake ever.
That really taps into some deep-seated primal fear
of what if you're just trapped in successive dream layers.
You've got to be super careful as a show runner
on a show like this, not to have too many
oops were still in the simulation moments throughout
the course of a season.
Because you can break your show.
Yeah, nobody will believe anything is happening
for real if you do it too often.
And I thought this episode really succeeded in like,
not feeling like a holodeck episode
that plays with the same kind of fear.
But yeah, I thought it was a lot of fun.
Have you ever lucidly dreamed?
I, for a long time, only lucidly dreamed.
And I haven't.
That sounds so tiring.
I haven't remembered my dreams as much lately,
but like in my 20s, like I would go to sleep
and just reliably, like be in my own,
like, world of my own making.
Didn't you feel tired when you woke up?
I don't want that.
I liked it. I liked it a lot.
I want infinite darkness. I don't want to do anything when I'm dreaming.
All right man, well you don't have to. I haven't been able to do that. Like there was a time when I
tried. I feel like a lot of people try in college. You hear about it for the first time, and you're like, hey, yeah, I'm gonna be the one that lucidly dreams.
Yeah.
That wasn't me.
I mean, the fun thing about it is that like,
while you have your consciousness
and you are like manipulating events,
you're still like a fucking idiot
when you're lucidly dreaming.
You're still the same, dummy.
Like, I would always be like,
this is such a cool scenario that I have dreamt up.
I'm gonna wake up and write this down
and then I'll write it into a script or something.
I'll like make it into a real story.
And I would wake up in my half-awake state,
jot down notes about what I had dreamed,
and then read it like six hours later.
I'd be like, this is fucking dumb as fuck.
That's great. That's perfect.
You know what else is often perfect, Adam?
Is the contents of our P1 inbox?
Oh yeah, perfect from now on.
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Yeah.
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Well it must be working if they came back to the P1 well.
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So I feel qualified to respond to this question too, but I think it's mostly
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I mean, I'm with you, Ben. The Dix French fries are great, and I love them.
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when the whole thing is done,
when our whole,
great disgeneration experiment is over,
we should do a what are the best episode titles
of the entire run.
Yeah, the Shimoda Awards for the show.
Yeah, I really feel like that's on the Mount title more.
That was really great work.
The message concludes now, please play all of Adam's homegrown songs.
Oh, no.
Or at least Ben's going to talk about Africa.
about Africa. into a lay flat seat for sleep salvation. He clears customs with a carnail, hoping to film some fun,
exotic worlds are eaten the rawest meat.
He returns and cannot wait to say, boy oh boy,
I've got stories for you
It doesn't take a lot to give it to you
Is there the better love more than to tell you?
Ben's gonna talk about Africa
He's gonna take some time to tell you things you never asked
And bring back Captain Potter
I don't want to bring back Captain Potter
I just want people to go to Maximum Funda and Aug
Slash Jumbo Tron and book a P1 now!
No, no, no, no, no, no!
Oh!
Oh!
Oh!
Oh!
Oh!
Hey, Ben.
What's that, Adam?
Did you find yourself a drunk Shimoda?
DRAG Shimoda!
I did.
I wrote down some time code for this.
Ooh, it's about 23 minutes and 20 seconds
into the episode or so.
You see these two people in the six bay.
This is the right when Harry Kim is woken up
from his 17 hours of sleep,
making up with seven of nine,
and he's kind of sliding past seven of nine
in the doctor to go get something to eat.
And there's two like civilians in Six Bay.
Uh-huh.
Just wearing like clothes that look like they were,
you know, like they look like they were just like extras
that they pulled off of the set of Frazier
and were like, stand at the background of this thing
in Star Trek.
How often do you see pink?
Yeah.
There's a lady back there wearing these sort of pink suit
that you'd see at a church service.
Right, and I was just like,
who are these civilians that they have on board?
What are they doing?
Why are they in Six Bay?
I want to know their whole deal.
So those two people are my drunk charmota for this episode
because I kept thinking about them the whole time.
I'm looking at Garrett Wong in the scene
and I'm thinking, is that the most comfortable thing
you've ever worn in a scene?
Oh man, that was really good.
Pajama's on set, hell yeah.
Yeah, gotta yeah. Yeah.
Gotta be.
You'll love picking up your sides for next week's shoot
and finding out you're gonna spend a lot of it
just napping on a biobad.
Yeah.
Yeah.
How about you, did you have a drunk Shimoda?
I think Chico Te is continued interest
in doing psychedelics for now two episodes in a row.
Has he has my attention now.
Wow.
What are you doing, man?
Trying to make your drug taking hobbies and interest of everyone else?
I don't know, dude.
Maybe start coming up with a different solution to your problems.
Maybe so.
Got me a little worried, so I'm going to give it to Chicote.
Maybe that's solving things the way you think it is.
Objection noted, we'll do this without you.
Do it.
Do it.
Do it.
Well, Adam, why don't you head over to Gach that Biz Slash game while I tell you about
Season 4, episode 14, Message in a bottle. When Voyager discovers an ancient communications relay that extends
to the Alpha Quadrant, they send the doctor to an experimental federation ship, the Prometheus.
What? Yeah. Sounds like an unusual episode. It is a famous and weird episode. Is it famous? Got Andy Dick in it, Adam.
Oh, wow.
Is this the episode that's finally gonna end our show?
We're mad at you for having even acknowledged the existence of that episode.
Yeah, this is going to be more trouble for us than the upcoming Jeffrey Epstein episode.
What was Tuvak even doing on his shuttle?
Then our shuttle is currently on square 25 of the game of buttholes.
We'll look the caretaker.
Couple squares ahead.
We've got the naked now app, which I really, really, really don't want to hit.
A-a-three would get us there. Nothing else can hurt us.
I'm just going to close my eyes and roll these dice.
You're required to learn as you play.
Roll.
I want to have more luck in Vegas than here, like, but if I had to trade luck,
I would take more luck on this roll.
Wow.
That's how much I don't want to get back into that fucking tub.
Oh God, I rolled a six.
Shula!
Did I win?
Hardly.
Oh boy, that was, that felt exactly like like getting a little too loose with the chips and placing
a big bet and kind of getting away with one there.
Wow.
Wow.
It felt more like surviving than winning, rolling that six.
It puts us on square 31.
It's a regular old episode, Ben.
And I think we're going to want to talk about the Andy Dick character soberly and carefully, right?
I think so. Yeah. We definitely don't want to misspeak when it comes to the topic of Andy Dick.
Right. We want people to know exactly how we feel about that guy.
Mm-hmm. Very positive and uncomplicated.
You know what gives me a positive feeling every week is the fact that we get to do this show as our job.
And the only way that's a job is through the support that we get at Maximumfund.org slash join.
Give yourself a great feeling by supporting the thing that you like listening to by chipping in every month. It really makes a difference.
It feels like getting a little loose with the chips in Vegas and taking a real risky
bet and having it pay off.
Yeah, I sure appreciate it too.
You know, I'm getting ready to take some paternity leave, but that should be basically
imperceptible to the friends of DeSoto because we've been able to work really hard at recording
tons and tons of stuff ahead of time and getting a big runway
built for our show so that we can still deliver weekly episodes to everyone. And that is
only made possible by listener support and by our producer Wendy Pretty who figured out
exactly how much we need to record and when we need to record it. And she figured out the right time
for you and your wife to have a baby
and then made that schedule work.
She told us when, I mean, she did kind of fuck up
with the timing of Star Trek Las Vegas,
but she was new on the job when she started that process.
So yeah, I mean, she can be forgiven for that.
But anyways, I just wanted to say like how grateful I am to all the friends in the Soto. She didn't know. She didn't know. She didn't know. She didn't know. She didn't know.
She didn't know.
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She didn't know. She didn't know. She didn't know. She didn't know. She didn't know. She didn't know. She didn't know. She didn't know. She didn. She didn't be possible without you. And Adam really appreciates getting the downtime too. He gets paternity leave by proxy.
It is great for me. I'm very much looking forward to it. I mean without the support Ben, you'd be
unable to bond with your new child. And that would be tragic. Yeah, you don't want that.
These people don't want me to not be able to bond with my child. You don't want your kid resentful of all that time.
You spent away from the family recording your dumb Star Trek podcast.
No.
That's how kids end up hating their parents.
Yeah.
I hate you, dad.
That kid would grow up to become a Star Wars fan.
Huh.
Huh.
Huh.
Where were you when I needed you?
You were in your fucking office talking to that idiot.
No son of mine puts on a boba fed helmet.
Not in this house.
And the cats in the cradle in the soup.
Let's prove.
We also got to thank the Card Daddy Bill Tilly who runs our social media accounts at
Greatest Track on Instagram and Twitter.
Give those a follow, lots of fun.
We got to thank Adam Ragusia, who made our original theme music and Dark Materia, who made
the Picard song and let us use it all those years ago. We got to thank Nick Dittmore who made our artwork and you know encourage everybody to
go get involved in a community of friends of DeSoto online.
They're everywhere.
Yeah, they're also going to be at Star Trek Las Vegas and I just want to encourage everyone
who's out there to be really cool to other people out there.
It's one of the reliably fun gatherings
for friends of DeSoto and other Star Trek fans out there.
I'm gonna try to put together an event
where we can all hang out.
Yeah, keep an eye on the social media account
for news on that and definitely go up to Adam
and say hi if you see him.
Yeah, put on your greatest GEN shirts.
Represent the brand. Yeah. Be on your greatest Jhin shirts. Represent the brand.
Yeah.
Be on your best behavior, but not too good.
With that, we will be back at you next week with potentially
the last episode of the greatest generation.
I mean, we're going to keep recording him
because we won't know how much trouble we're in until it comes out.
But I'm glad I'm going to be at Star Trek Las Vegas
before this episode comes out, but I'm glad I'm gonna be at Star Trek Las Vegas before this episode comes out
Instead of run out of town on a rail
Up on the up on the panel and the dick
Welcome to the stage at STLV
Not the worst person they've had panel at the LP, over the years, I'd show.
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