The Greatest Generation - The Necropahmicon (DS9 S7E20)

Episode Date: December 28, 2020

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Priority 1 message from Starfleet coming in on Secured Channel. Hey friends of Disodo. Before today's episode, we just wanted to take a moment to talk about the historic labor actions being taken by writers and actors in the American Film and Television industry. If you're a fan of the work done by the people who make Star Trek, we hope you'll join us in standing in solidarity with the folks who actually bring these adventures to life. Over the past several years, the AMPTP, the organization that represents the American Film and Television Production Studios, have reduced the profit from movies and TV going to workers. And in so doing,

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and season two of Star Trek Picard. We've set up a page where you can also contribute. It's at friendsofdecotoforlabor.com. That's friendsofdecotoforlabor.com. That's friendsofdisotoforlabor.com. Link in the episode description. Okay, now let's get on with the show. Welcome to the greatest generation. Deep Space 9. It's a Star Trek podcast from a couple of guys who are a little bit embarrassed to have a Star Trek podcast.

I'm Ben Harris. I'm Adam Pranika. It's a Star Trek podcast. Star Trek. Yeah. Deep Space 9. We came to Star Trek podcast. Star Trek. Yeah. Deep Space Nine. We came to Star Trek about Star Trek. This is, that's our new slogan that I just invented.

This is the thing. People tell other people that they enjoy a Star Trek podcast, but that's not what they really enjoy. They enjoy this. Moments like these. Yeah. Adam, it's been a little while since we answered questions left for us by Apple Podcast reviewers.

Yeah, it's been a good long time. Any interest in doing a review question segment? I love this. Yeah, I have great interest in that. What do you think? I hate segment. I love this. Yeah, I have great interest in that. What do you think? I hate this. I love it. It is revolting.

More. Please. We're never going to get to every single question. But if you would like to ask us a question, you are always free to do that by going to Apple Podcasts, leaving a five star review and putting a question in your review. I would say the possibilities are always there. Today could be your lucky day.

Here is the first question. The review is entitled Wurf and says, you'll like to rip on Wurf. What my theory presupposes is that despite some lackluster arcs here and there, he's the most developed track character of all. Why am I right? I mean, he's been given the most miles on the character, Odominer. I think what is it about Worf? He's been in the most total hours of Star Trek. Isn't that a record that he holds? I think that's pretty unbeatable because he's got like 11 full seasons. Yeah, my answer to that question, if that is a question, is yeah,

he's developed like hell. He's fully developed into a shithead. I would say that if my character was developed as well as Worf, people would turn on me the way Adam has turned on Warf. Yeah. Yeah, I don't argue the fact that he's the most developed character. But I think Ben and I discussed to what extent and in what direction he's been developed. And I don't think either it us are very happy with that. He's had a rough go of it these past couple of seasons. Do you think that there is a chance that Warf could turn himself around for you

in the last five or so episodes of this show? I mean, we've got a scant number of hours left of Deep Space Nine to review. It's not a lot of time. Yeah. No, it would be my answer. Yeah. It would have to be a real moonshot

of turning it around for him. And I just don't see it. I look, I'm open-minded enough to be ready for that possibility, but now I, I mean, wouldn't it be weird if in the, in the few episodes we have left in this season, we don't talk about the war we're in for any reason? And we continue to develop character.

Yeah, that seems, but he could like do some like awesome shit with his character, right? Like theoretically. Plenty of time to take off the badge, Worf. Go kill. I don't know, Galron or somebody. Yeah. Okay, here's one.

I have never watched Deep Space Nine, but these guys make that a non-issue. Keep up the great work, guys. We know you love Jazz Horse as much as I love the Jazz Horse shirt I bought from you. My question is, what other games are you guys playing? That's from David O This is a great question. It is a great question. I Have

Recently taken up XCOM 2 on the iOS I don't know if you've ever played an XCOM game at him. It's a it's a turn-based Strategy game. I'm looking it up. I played it originally on PlayStation 4 and really liked it. I also really liked XCOM 1. I didn't know this thing I had a name, turn-based strategy game. This is like OG Warcraft or Starcraft, right? Isn't that? Well, Starcraft, I think was a real time strategy game.

I don't know about OG Warcraft, or if that was turn based or not, but this is like literally like you move a soldier, you've got like two actions you can take, and then the enemy will do something, and then you can move again. It's like that. On, I have a like a new-ish iPhone.

It looks better than PlayStation 4. It like the graphics are fucking unbelievable. It is like a full triple A level gaming experience. And somehow the iOS version is a much more like rich storyline and better developed game than the PS4 version, which I don't really understand. But like, it's 25 bucks, which is like, it really takes a lot for me to spend 25 bucks in the app store. Is it a better game because it's touchy and not controllery? Like when you're selecting and

moving, your people, is that one of the reasons it's better, you think? I would say that that's like the main thing I don't like about it is that the touchiness is not, I think the interface is a little shitty compared to the console version, but the game is fucking great. And because it's turn-based, like the controls being not that great is much more forgivable than it was like a live action kind of thing. So, uh, so that's, that's the game that kind of has me right now. One of my favorite games ever when I was little was Dragon Warrior. Remember that NES game? That was a turn-based game.

I never played Dragon Warrior. Real classic. I mean, I was called Dragon Warrior in college because it was such a legendary stickman. Nice wreck by you here. I never, I, I don't use my phone for games. You could play it on an information pad. That would probably be great. You got that great big iPad. Yeah, but that's a, that's a, that's a expert Shimoda. That's a workplace iPad. I can't I can't install that kind of software on there Listen, I'm gonna blow your mind right now the civilization Games are developed by the same people as XCOM 2 and I know for a fact that you've played the civilization game on that great big iPad

Wow, you really buried the lead man Okay, yeah, I'm in because I love toiv on the iPad. That's a big fun. And as the co-owner of Xbridge Smoto with you, I give a great permission to use your work computer for fun shit sometimes. Wow, I've got a great boss. Thanks, man. I have been my video game obsession lately, and this is largely thanks to you.

You've been very encouraging about my new computer, and I'm going to be a great Thanks, man. I have been my video game obsession lately, and this is largely thanks to you. You've been very encouraging about my creating and defending video game time for my own personal enrichment and self-care. I haven't played a game called Recfest on the PlayStation, which is just a demolition Derby game

where you choose a vehicle and then crash that vehicle into a friend. That sounds good. There were probably bad versions of this game out there that have happened over the years, but like the modern video games ability to create a realistic feeling dirt track and to make battle damage on a vehicle look so real. It's a great time to be alive and playing video games if you're into this this kind of micro genre. So, recfest is what I've been playing and what's great about it is that you can play

with friends. I've been playing with a couple of friends of the podcast who live in very far away places for me currently. So we'll hop on late at night and I'll play with buddies from Seattle and New York at the same time. It's big fun. That's tight. Maybe one more question.

I think we should get to the show soon, yeah? Yeah, absolutely. Here's a question that is entitled, is Adam trolling us? And before I even read the rest of the question, I'm gonna answer by saying yes. Mm. Agreed. Here's the text.

Especially if the format of the message is, Adam really does something stupid. That's not intentional, is it? Here's the question. On's not intentional, is it? Here's the question. On who mourns for mourn? Neither of you pointed out the obvious bit of trivia. I understand that this represents standard operating procedure for the greatest generation, deep space nine, but then Adam trolls the FOD by making the obvious bit of trivia, his drunk Shimoda. Sorry if this ruins the gag, but then Adam choose his Shimoda for the reason, for this reason, or was the quote,

obvious bit of trivia just missed. I choose to believe that Adam Pranika is casting pod on a very high level, well done. And surely I'm not the first to point this out. Love the show, started viewing in March and finally caught up. Now Adam, this is a question that I have had as well Which is I think your drunk Shimoda on the who mourns for more in episode was a guy that you noticed in a scene in Quarch bar who turns out to be the actor who portrays more and

making a unloved cameo as a bejorin or something. I usually forget episodes immediately after we finish them. But hearing this question asked, snapped me right into square about where my mind was at that exact moment. Because I did not know that that was the mourn guy when we did our review at all.

And then when we put that episode up, we got trillions of tweets about it. I think one of my own personal brands of op-sick is to shoot so much mud into the water that a person can't tell whether or not I'm intentionally being away or actually making a mistake. And with that having been said, of course I knew that. It's obvious. I was looking at the camera when I said it. Just as I'm doing right now.

You're the freaked out squid of podcasting Yeah, we don't we don't do research on the show or do we? right I Like to just know if our friends have decided or paying attention Yeah, that's what a moment like that is for and boy oh boy, the tweets and emails were an indication of that. You're keeping them on their toes.

If I ever have any doubt that anyone's listening to the show anymore, all I have to do is say something like that. Thank you to everyone who has left a five star review. Looks like we've got quite a few since last time I took a peek at our iTunes listing. What are we yet? Are we still the best reviewed Star Trek podcast in the world?

TM? I mean, it's either us or those jokers over at greatest discovery. Those guys are good. I don't know how they do it. These guys have a little something called it. Well, the thing that we have today is the fourth part of the series finale to talk about for Deep Space 9, Ben, you want to get to it?

Let's get right into it. It's Deep Space 9, Season 7, Episode 20. It's called the Changing Face of Evil Part 4. This is a funny way to open this episode, because it's something we've been talking about a lot, but a orphanessery come back from there very long time away from the station, and O'Brien just lies right to their face about how much the station missed them and how much everyone was talking about them. Your well-being was a constant source of conversation and speculation. A lie detector test determined that was a lot. I didn't know O'Brien, the character, had this in him.

The super cruel lie to the face of your friend's gear. He seems evil in this moment. He seems malevolent in a way that it wasn't expecting. Whatever you say. I was like, oh, is this a Mirror Universe episode? What's going on here? Yeah, that's a smiley move. That's not an O'Brien move.

Yeah. Smiley is like the one Mirror Universe person that is like not that bad, right? You could play both sides pretty easily. There's something pretty subtle in the scene that happens, which is Ezri kind of declining to give Bishir a hug in front of Worf. Well, I must admit I was a big concern. She kind of uses the circumstances of,

you know, the conversation and Cisco walking up and stuff to kind of weasel out of an offered hug that like she gets a, gives a Brian a big hug and Bashir's got his arms open and she totally leaves a panging. Yeah, that hurts. It hurts in public.

It's the hug equivalent of the two slow high five. Mm-hmm. Ha-ha-ha. It's interesting, because I think she's doing that more for a wolf's benefit than anyone else. But that's like an interesting heartbreak calculus to do.

Like it's gonna break Bashir's heart a little bit if I don't hug him, but it's gonna break wolf's double heart little bit if I don't hug him, but it's gonna break worse double heart, even more if I do. Are you clear on how they got home? I think Demard gave them a... A shuttle, a car, a car national shuttle, yeah. And he gave, and he said like the data

that they needed to slip the perimeter defenses was loaded into it, but I don't know how they got into Federation territory. Like the second A Cardassian vessel exits from one side of the front line, you would think that a, you know, like that's probably what the hood is doing, right? Just kind of cruising around torpedoing

the shuttles coming from Cardassia. I can never tell if this shit only interests us because I was exactly with you. I was like, trans it must have been crazy. Also where did they get the uniforms? There's no way a Cardassian shuttle could have replicated those. Like they should show up looking like shit. Yeah. But they don't. They look like they're ready to go right on duty.

That would have been a fun way to write the scene. Like she goes in and hugs, O'Brien, and he's like, woo. Little, little bit smelly there, Esri. And then like, Bishop takes a step back and does not offer her a hug. Yeah. Like maybe after you've had a sonic shower.

Cisco is very encouraging of a thorough medical evaluation that that this year in his own right is very interested in in giving to both of them. He wants to know what what gives with Demar freeing them. Yeah. I'm not sure. Like can tell you one thing. He hates way out. And what's what's happening there? And they're like, we honestly do not fucking know. Like, deep brief us all you want,

we're not gonna be able to shed any new light on what's going on with the brain, what's going on with change leader, any of that stuff. Is a rectal exam really necessary to find that out? For sure. Two of them. But before he can answer that question, we get some news from the radio.

The brain have attacked Earth. One of the great moments before theme, like cut to theme. This is great. The Cisco close up in this moment. You get the length of the theme song to process your feelings before you're made to become angry almost immediately because it's Captain Cisco and Martak watching the footage of the Federation President reading my pet go to a classroom of kindergarteners after explicitly ignoring the brain planning to attack Earth Intelligence report.

Yeah, it's really messed up. Get the book upside down. Yeah. And then later it's like, was that Photoshop or was that a real photo? Who knows? I love Marta in the scene. Like the imagery of San Francisco. I mean, for its time, plausibly scary. Looks pretty bad. The Golden Gate Bridge sustaining damage, trope of films and television is like one of my favorite things in the world. Like so many movie trailers and movie posters and shows have like we're either going to fuck up the Statue of Liberty or the Golden Gate Bridge. Like one of the two things always happens in a disaster movie. And this matte painting is great. It's like rescue shuttles taking off from the lawn in front of Starfleet HQ with the crumpled bridge in the background.

You see Boothbeath bleeding out under an Elm tree. There's that one last rescue shuttle leaving the rooftop. With a gauze. Wesley Crusher dangling from a nestle. Just a real like iconic image of a terrible moment in history. Mark's Hock respects the brain for this move, and I love this moment for his character. As a warrior, he's got respect, Nux, for the brain here. Yeah, he's like, we didn't even try that.

The brain may be wearing refrigerated suits, but their hearts beat with a fire of a warrior. And then his late-night talk show, kind of Bill Marstyle gets canceled. Yeah, Mar-Martax, say what you will about the brain, but I don't call attacking Earth cowardly. I suppose I'll have to take these sizzling hot takes to a premium cable network. Yeah. We cut over to Cardiacia where a nice Sherbert sunset is there for Wayune and Thought Gore to celebrate beneath. Dimaris is less enthusiastic about their circumstances. I was thinking a lot about how this show got away

with seven entire seasons of Cardassia being the bad planet and a single establishing shot of Cardassia. It's amazing. Every time they cut to it, it's like... ...same shot. Where's that shot of Cardassia that shows the video billboard? Like, they should have brought that shot back and had a dominion person in their prostilitizing or whatever.

I think this is the same shot. It's just later in the sequence. I think that that billboard is like a little bit earlier in a, I think they made six or seven seconds of this of this parallax matte painting effect and then have used it like have used like the first half of it and the last half of it 200 times. We're made to understand that Demar is able to understand Thought Goar a little bit better than in previous episodes. Yeah, his universal translator has been fixed,

but ours has not. You're like, no, you're like, no. Well, maybe so. I like that when Wei-Yun leaves, leaves the office, Thought Goar, and Demar talk a little bit, and Demar is like, hey dude, When you're around that guy you need to check your back for stab wounds. Yeah, like I know I know you're feeling real high on the hog at the moment, but that's where I was a couple weeks ago

And now it sucks. It's like on love Island when somebody gets mugged off and then like it goes to the new Boyfriend and it's like listen like I know that you're dating her now and I used to be dating her and I want nothing but the happiest relationship for you, but she is going to stab you in the back. Do you really think I'm that desperate to go in? I ain't a graph dog, I don't graph people. You're sort of seeing him like,

shit talk the relationship to the new boyfriend in a way that is specifically designed to undercut confidence. You tried to break up a couple, you've got a game plan, you said that, that's how it comes across. Well, I'm really glad you had a love island comparison chambered there,

so I didn't have to make one myself. I got you back on the love island refs, buddy. You don't have to watch or live on love island to get a love island reference though. Because there's absolutely nothing wrong with me. Whoa! What you just described to me was college. Ha ha ha ha.

Gold to cotton, the cup, gold to cotton. So, back on the station, we find Cassidy Yates cooking for a Captain Cisco. If you can call it that, Adam. There are a couple of grave errors that Cassidy makes in this scene. One, you don't cook another man's peppers. If that man has plans for those peppers. Nobody touches my peppers. That, a less grave error in judgment than using metal utensils on a non-stick

pan the way she does. I don't know, Bensisko. If maybe this is the thing that your prophet mom was warning you about? If you do this, you will know only sorrow. Cassidy's like, well, I'm so sorry. I guess I'm just gonna go in a cargo run into a war zone, Ben Sisko. See if you start caring about me then. This conversation kind of reminded me of like, at the beginning of the pandemic, when everybody was like a little bit like,

when does it start being dangerous to like, ever do anything? Like you and I were on a, on a little bit like, when does it start being dangerous to like ever do anything? Like you and I were on a little weekend getaway like right before all the like shelter and place orders started and we had some friends that had to get on flights to get home and stuff. And I really didn't envy that because they, you know, like there was no information in that moment, like what is and isn't a safe thing to do.

And to go home meant enduring the most dangerous thing we had heard about. Right, and Cassidy is definitely like on the end of the ledger of like, yeah, like I'm gonna like keep living my life and doing the stuff that I do. And Cisco's like, what are you talking about? They just attacked earth earth It's what we're from

It's our home. Are you too good for your home? You know the only other man who had the stones to pull a stunt like that was young Luke Picard Winner of the Academy marathon Also on earth probably sitting in his vineyard right now. Sippin' on jippers. Yeah. Which is ironic because he makes wine. I know.

We're cutting around quite a bit this episode. Back on Cardassia, Demar is conspiring with a new character. This is Russat. Yeah, Gullrousat. Did you get a little like David Rose from Shits Creek, energy from Gullrousat? I think it's the eyes. Like something about the eyes. Gave me David Rose. John Vickery is the guy who plays him and I also was captivated by those peepers. Yeah. He was in that episode of Night Terror's on TNG.

He played that batasoid that was terrorized at night. You remember him? Yeah. Very familiar face when you click on that episode. His Tim D.B. picture is a cling on, I think from Star Trek Enterprise. So he's one of those Star Trek that guys. He's got some real Kyle McLaughlin vibes to me and you know how great I think that guy looks. Yeah. Oh, you would make a great card, Asian Adam.

That's right. I have the forehead for that. Anyways, welcome to the resistance, Demar. Okay, are you saying that I don't make people feel at home? We gotta know what Kai win is up to at this point. And what she's doing is canceling appointments. So Boler is going down the list and she's like, nope, nope, nope. Cancel it. He is the quintessential cranky executive assistant. His game walked all over by the boss's new paramour. Do Cot really walks all over

Solboar. He enters the scene with shit that is hot and ready for Solboar to eat. Eminence, is there anything you would like? I'm not hungry. Except, Soul Boar won't be enjoying the shit on the balcony. That's where Gold to Cots is going to take his meal. As soon as Soul Boar returns with it. I said, I'm not hungry. Kiwin here is impatient for what's to come for her. She wants to kick off this paw-raith situation, and it's just not happening fast enough for her.

Right. There's a mission and the marching orders are getting kind of doled out in very slow, deliberate fashion. You got to kind of wonder how much the pot rates aren't linear or not, right? Because the profits are not linear. Like they're always like really, really tripped out when people talk about the future being different from the past and stuff. It's why you never wanna make plans with a profit. You're gonna be waiting at the restaurant

for like a thousand years. And they're like, what? There's only so much of free bread and butter service that you can consume before they're going to make you order something. Right. And they're like, I'm sorry. I like my friend is parking. I'm sure they're just like circling the parking lot right now.

You know what? You can never go to a din ty phone with a with a profit because your party will never be there at the same time. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. They they're going to like look at you with a blank expression. They're like, tell us when they are here in the lobby, then we will start to consider seating you. You get the sense that the pyraiths live in kind of a ghost busters like containment

unit in the in the caves. Yeah, the fire caves are their prison. The the scene really gave me those ghost busters vibes. Like you have to keep them in the containment prison. The scene really gave me those ghost busters vibes. Like you gotta keep them in the containment unit. The mayor can't make you turn off the power to the station. It doesn't understand. We've seen Pawraith Farts come out of artifacts and stuff and get into people famously,

for some reason Jake was coast-emojin for a little while. Yeah. So there's some Pawraiths that are not trapped in the fire caves, but I guess most of them are. It seems pretty unclear about why or when a pot rate is given to a trinket or an item or a book or whatever to live in. I love this scene because it is a,

it's just a return to form for Star Trek. It's that psych that is three feet away from the actors Trying to trying to rep long distance view over overexposed Bay Dior Think fun. Yeah, but they need to open up the the Bedurant gift shrunk and get the the book about the coast-emotion out of the archives. It's it's it's kind of the the secret knowledge that that Ki-Win is going to need to to release the par-rathes. Am I wrong? I thought the book was called the coast-emotion. So I have a very imperfect understanding of this, but I think that Coast Immogin is kind

of the Satan of the Bedurin cosmology, and there are other demons. Like, like, Coast Immogin is the one that is cast out by the prophets and all of Coast Immogin's allies or the other paw-raith rates. Kind of a deal. That totally negates my joke about the accompanying volume, the joy of coast emojans, which just has pictures of really realistic pubic hair. On all the characters. Yeah. Our coast emojans are ourselves.

Everybody coast emotion. It's as soon as they mention the book, I'm like, oh shit, this is going to be like the Necronomicon. Like, like, Fleshy Gross book with like a dick key or something. Like the Necropa-McCon. Yes, you will. Yes, I will. Yeah, and it's fun,

because Galducat's kind of goading Kai win at this moment. Kai win is reluctant to read from the book, but she is not afraid of it. She wants to be very clear about that point. Yeah. Not afraid, Galducat. One of my favorite things I've learned about

the Jewish religion is that in Yom Kippur, the day of atonement, in days of your, the head priest of the original temple in Jerusalem, was the only person considered ordained enough to go into the holy of holies. And there was a ritual cleaning that was supposed to kind of expunge the sins of the congregation. And so they would tie a rope around his wastes so that he could go in and do perform the rights. But if he for some reason had a heart attack or died of something while he was in there, they could pull him back out. What? And this is kind of how the kai is, right? Like she's the only person that's allowed to even look at this book. Um, religions are so funny.

Yeah, they're great. Ancient humans. What's going on with those guys? Wow. That's a big point, don't you, Mr. Bucket? That's an apparel. A bucket of pay. Mr. Bucket, I have to reverse. Back to my state. I don't use the bucket anymore.

Back on Deep Space 9, it's decidedly less serious over there. O'Brien and Bashir are playing Alamo Warhammer together. They clearly also bought a big tract of land on Beijor, but they have something different in mind for what they're gonna build. When the scene opened I was like, oh, this is gonna be a great joke by Adam about all of Bashir's ideas for fortification having to do with adding moats. And then he says it. He just fucking says it himself. I don't have to make that joke Bashir already did.

A moat around the alamo? Yes, here. Look, we could widen this stream, maybe make it a little deeper. But sheer, beat you to the pun, Shadow. Now, we could always put crocodiles in the modes of urine. Of course, it would be crocodile urine in the moats. They're trying to strategize about how they can beat the alamo, like their video game that they play

in the Hollis suite about the alamo. They lose every time because I guess they are on team Crockett and not on team Mexico. Quark is, I would like to think that the fucking Starfleets would be it be colonized enough that they would consider fighting on Teap Mexico occasionally. No, no one's that woke. I felt very seen in this moment because Quark is like I can't believe you guys are playing with your dollhouse here, like there's serious warship happening. There was another wolf 359 type experience happening on earth. Like aren't you guys gonna allow that to

Influence how you're feeling and what you're doing and both Bashir and O'Brien are like I just worked a double Man, you can't work every hour of every day. This is myself care time. Yeah, they're kind of they're kind of Adam playing video games. Yeah, they are. You need to play video games. Yeah, I need care. You can't put drinks down on the on the fucking tabletop game. You're gonna mess stuff up Quark. Yeah, we haven't put in the moats yet Quark. Up in the balcony of Quark's bar, Esri and Worf are watching all this go down, and Worf is really disgusted. He is a child. But you kind of get the sense that he's sort of playing wingman under duress to Esri.

He gets excited playing with toys. He knows how to have a good time. She wants to kick it to Julian now. She wants to make a move and he is kind of there to be her support in a weird turn for him given how threatened he seemed by this in the previous episodes. I don't get why Worf doesn't see the similarities between himself and Bashir and O'Brien

in a scene like this. What is so different about O'Brien and Bashir doing the alamo from the Warf Calistenix program fighting against Skeletor in the holodeck. Like, what's wrong with strategizing before you go in there? Is there, is that something that's without honor? Should you just go into a simulation like that without using the miniatures? I wish we got a little more into why he finds this so bad, you know?

Honestly, it feels like a real lateral move from his old West play set that he does with Alexander. You're as handy with the shoot nine, as you are with a woman's heart. I kind of think he's dunking on them out of a feeling of wishing he could play too. Like, I was waiting for that to happen, like that invitation to be extended.

You would think it's... I think that we may be on a like three episode run toward that or something like that. Yeah, that's maybe the thing I care about the most at this point. Is whether or not, or if we can win the Alamo. I do wonder about this relationship with Wurf

and Ezri though, it feels like, it's weird to say this because they had so much time together But I feel like they skipped ahead in their relationship to each other somehow like I'm missing something because How did we get to Ezri and Bashir as a thing like there was the dream reference? There was there was some references to Ezra's attraction to him sprinkled in while they were imprisoned together. But I didn't think it was anything more than,

like, it's okay to have a crush every once in a while. Crush is that often don't turn into anything. I thought it was just that. All of a sudden, it seems very serious. Yeah, I think it's like the TV version of a crush, which is saying I love you as the first thing you say to somebody you're interested in dating. Yeah, you do that a couple of times in college. You learn very quickly.

That's not how it works. That's not how it works. But TV taught you wrong. And I think that like my sense is what you're picking up on is that this suddenly feels like a super modern television show. And yet there are still a couple of vestiges of old time ETV in it. Yeah, there's attention there. Speaking of super modern, there's a very interesting scene in the next moment with

Dimar and Wayune, where Jemar now kind of like setting the bottle aside to focus on his running the Resistance is at work when wayun comes in is like wow you rolled out of bed early what's going on? I checked your time card and it's not 20 minutes late what gives and I man like I thought that this was gonna be demars ass and And I, man, like I thought that this was gonna be Demar's ass. And it's very interesting to see wayune kind of engage in wishful thinking about because whenune is such a true believer,

the success is that the dominion has had via their relationship with the brain make wayune like more and more confident in what the outcome of the war is going to be. And he kind of projects that onto Demar in this really like unself-critical way that I thought it was such an interest. It's so interesting to see why you have a blind spot like this. His blind spot is his optimism and it really brought into relief in this scene just what

the conflict was between Wayoon and Demar really. Which was that Wayoon's true belief orship is all about the optimism of being a part of the dominion and the founders always being right and godlike and how Demar could just never get on his level. Right. And you're a manager of a person who's been kind of a slack off for a while, who suddenly starts working hard. It's easy to become excited about the possibilities again. This must be for good reasons.

Right. This is not a backstab. How could it be? Who would backstab somebody that's on the right side of history like me? There's something different about you today, DeMar, I can't quite put my finger on it. It's almost as if you're only half-trest. What are you talking about?

This was like one of my favorite scenes in the episode, because I just, I thought that the DeMar stuff and the way you and stuff was kind of corny and they wound up having this like really interesting and true moment in this scene where wayune's self delusion is like something that I can see in all different parts of my life as something that has happened. I like scenes like this where Demar doesn't have to lie in all different parts of my life as something that has happened. I like scenes like this where Dimar doesn't have to lie in this moment.

This makes the scene far more interesting that he doesn't have to. The only lie is that he quickly X is out of the browser tab he was in before when he comes in. Knock on my door, knock next time! He's looking at brain porn. Cold, brain megababes. Far from Cardassia on the surface of Beijor, Kaewin takes delivery of the Necro-Pah-McCon, which Soulboard delivers under duress again.

Very, he is really set off by the fact that he's requested this. He's like, this book hasn't been checked out in centuries, and I'm actually concerned about the late fees. Where are you to hold onto this for a while? He's doing that thing of like what I wish the guy at the video rental had done when I tried to rent the Japanese film audition. It's like are you sure? Are you sure you want to take this home? You know, like I wish somebody had had prepared me for what I was good about to see.

Yeah. Like, Soulboard doesn't know what she's about to see. That's the thing. Like, he is afraid of this unfaith alone. That's because Soulboard has seen what's in the bag and it's a copy of Salo. Ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha. That's your video story guys should have done.

He's like like you know People who have checked out this right often follow it up with this The human algorithm of hey Shots you might want to do a little chaser double feature here You know if you aren't too worn out by the first one, if you haven't given up on humanity, I love that the book is in like a crown royal velvet bag, like a black bag. That's big fun. Yeah.

A very premium book of the dead. And she basically says, like, put the book down on the desk and fuck off SoulBoar. And you know, like she's pulling rank, she's like, DuCott is there pulling his rank. This is like SoulBoar's last stand, isn't it? Like, he's not really been mouthy up until now. Yeah. And they kind of cow him out of the room, and then Ducat has to kind of repitch this plan to Kai Win, right?

He's like, the power is yours if you want it, but you have to open the book. And that's the thing that has always motivated her, right? Like more power, more influence, more, more stability that she can wield against anyone that would disagree with her. And so she is always going to, she's like a fucking moth to the flame with in terms of power. And Galdu Kat is like the, the person with the moth swatter, like pushing her toward the flame. Yeah. So she, she makes what, uh, I think we can all recognize as a Faustian Bajargan and opens the book.

Some of the best you've ever done. Really glad I was here for that. All of our listeners were here for it too. So cheers to them. She opens up the book and she looks at the pages and the pages are blank. It's a blank. Clearly, you're going to have to do more research. This is some kind of trick. There's got to be something in this book. You ever buy a greeting card and you're expecting there to be some sort of like rhyming, happy birthday text inside and you get at home and it's fucking blank and you're like,

God damn it. I don't even know this person that well. And now I need to write my own flowery celebratory message to them. That's the crest fall in this that's happening here. This is greeting card disappointment in this scene. Yeah. You got to use four fucking stamps to mail the Bishur and

Necronomicon also. Stamps to mail the visual and economic on Also, like it's just it's like it's like the pirus cart of Devil books, right? And you like it was in like a like a plastic sleeve when you bought it So you assumed that there would be an envelope that was sized to fit and there isn't and you're like, no What am I gonna do like? Fold printer paper up and make my own envelope, give me a break. This is why SoulBoar had to be the career for the book. Personally, you can't just put it in the mail.

So the Bejore and Postal Service will not deliver. Bejore and Dr. Namakon. Yeah. It's like a lithium ion battery. Ever since DeJoy Lewis took it it over the service has really been dog shit I'm not a big guard, I'm not a big guard, I'm not a big guard. Back on, uh, deep space nine, Odo is giving, uh, Captain Cisco some new security reports. When Cassidy Yates enters the security office, pissed. Yeah, and Cisco is like, Hey, Odo, you might if I use your office to get a mud hole stomped

in my ass. I noticed like, yeah, Odo, you might if I use your office to get a mud hole stomped in my ass. And notice like, yeah, go for it, buddy. As long as I can watch. I'll be across the prom and I'm talking to my best friend, Quark. We'll just be enjoying the blood bath. You know what's great about being me? I can turn myself into the popcorn eating gift

whenever I want. Ha ha ha ha ha. So Quark and Odo kind of watch as Cassidy, tears Ben Sisko on half for taking her off the flight line. Basically, he used his influence of a profit slash station administrator to keep her from going on cargo runs and that ain't gonna fly. That's not how this works. I'm a thousand percent on Cassidy's side here. This is some real bullshit that's this

go. If you're gonna pull something like this, you better come with permission. I had guessed in the, you burned my peppers seen before. Nobody touches my peppers. That Cassidy would have just gone and flown missions against Cisco's wishes. I did not expect their conflict to turn into this, like for her to just learn about it before leaving and turn into this, like for her to just learn about it before leaving and not resist this. I told you I don't need or want that kind of protection. Quark and Odo are watching this from outside and Quark has a warning for Odo. He's like, he kind of like Elbow's Odo and it's like you see that? Yeah.

This is what it's like to get married, and I should know. Take it from me, famously married. I would like a divorce, please, no offense. The thing about arguing with your spouse versus your sigoth, I would say, is that like when you are married to somebody, it's like whatever conflicts come up, we are committed to resolving them together. It's like a... Hold on, I haven't finished writing that down.

Yeah. Yeah. Where it is like any dumb quibble can end a dating relationship in theory and not so much in the case of a marriage. And I guess that's what Quark is saying here. But I kind of felt like it was something he was peppering in to just kind of like inject the idea into Odo's ear.

Maybe specifically because Quark seems to be the person you go to if you want to buy a wedding ring on Deep Space Nine and he sees some profit in it. Yeah, that's fair. He's going to know first. if you want to buy a wedding ring on Deep Space Nine and he sees some profit in it. Yeah, that's fair. He's gonna know first. Do you think Admiral Beltbuckle lives on Deep Space Nine now? Sick belt buckle, bro.

Great question. Because where else would he be? I don't know, because we get one more scene of like Kai Wend doing research on Bajor and then a scene of Cisco, you know, giving Cassidy flowers and recognizing his fuck up in a super grown up way. And then they get interrupted by belt buckle. It's the eagle his leg.

It's a sick belt, what kind of tear? Saying like there's big problems in the Chintaka system. We gotta go save the Federation's one toe hold in the Cardassian area of space because they're bearing down on it with brain chips. We get an extended scene of pre-flight checking on the bridge of the little D. It just goes on and on and on. And the way it works is like we get pre-flight check

terminology and then we get O'Brien and Bashir arguing about losing one of the figurines on their alamo place it. Yeah, and more worth kind of grimacing to himself that he wishes he was invited but isn't. Right, but we get like the part that's supposed to give you chills if you're a Star Trek fan, like the deployment out to go meet the assault fleet, the idea that we're going to go to war here. And it's going to be pretty excellent is the expectation because deep space nine does a good job with scenes like this. They're heading for another wolf three six nine. I assume is the next. It's the battle with a lot of face tattoos. On Bezier, Kai Wynne has been working so hard at her task that she's fallen asleep at her desk.

And SoulBoar sees this as an opportunity to return some of these evil textbooks before late fees some of these evil textbooks before late fees are incurred. And he's caught out in the hallway by Gold to Cot, who just fucks him up in that hallway. The thing about Gold to Cot that we don't talk enough about is how physically imposing he is. Yeah. And it's not only about posture. He's got like, he's got this older man v-shaped torso thing going on that really looks

aggressive when he's just standing there. I'll show you who's number one. Just a round of bound, please. It's no time. You wouldn't think that it would still be so noticeable outside of the Kardashian chest plate, but it really is. Almost like he's wearing a corset or something. It's really admirable. Yeah. He like backhands soul boar to get these books back and heads back in to Kai win. And maybe we should just kind of resolve the duke hot win storyline here and then talk about Wolf 369.

Sure. Just because I feel like the jumping back and forth is so intense, because later Soul Board comes back. And I kind of think that he maybe even stole the books as a pretext to get punched by DuCat because he has sequenced DuCat's DNA, suddenly. And knows what he truly is. It's DuCat. You can't put a knife in a room

without that knife going into a body. Yeah. And this is Kai Wynne doing a murder to stop Soulbore. Soulbore, I beg you. No! Oh! And she's like, like Louise Fletcher is such an incredible actor. Like the summer solter character has to do. And this are so great.

Like, it's so hard to imagine somebody that is as power driven as Kai Wynne having crises of conscience the way she occasionally does and like powering through them. You wonder about it all the time. Does a powerful politician ever have a dark night of the soul or wonder about the drone strike or whatever? Like how much does that affect a person when they wield the kind of power of life and death that she does? And she's now murdered her closest confidant to protect her position of power because the secret of who Angel really is getting out would be impossibly damaging to her. Right. To what extent is she willing to go to to maintain the cover up?

It's not just her intentions. It's it's covering them up at the same time. Because she like turns to go destroy the up at the same time. Because you like turns to go destroy the Necropamicon and she only doesn't destroy it because when SoulBoard's blood falls on the book, it reveals all the text. Pretty exciting moment. Poor SoulBoard though. Yeah. RSVP, we stand a SoulBoard tonight. This is why when you go to confront a powerful person, you never do it alone. Let

this be a lesson. Yeah. Tany went out there seeking that kind of confrontation. You need to bring witnesses. You want to send like Manila envelopes to your attorney that he will send to the Washington Post and the New York Times in the event of your death. You want that dead man switch in a situation like this. SoulBoer is not cagey enough to have planned something like that. So he buys the farm and Kywin slips even further down the path of serving as the handmaid and to the parades being released from the firecaves. In space we get the confrontation between these two Starfleets.

It's Cardassians and ticks versus Romulans, Klingons and Federation. And a couple of star fleets about to have a star war. Indeed. And the little D takes out a couple of pretty big brain ships quickly. Didn't you wonder what the hell at this point, like this is way too easy? This is gonna be great. But then a brain ship hits them with some caco lightning and it takes them out. It double taps the little D. Tattooing around the head wound, scorched bone,

close range, probably executed. This space combat happened so fast, I couldn't believe it. It really does because we go from, hey, we're gonna win this thing to oops, where a drift. So I do a band and ship. In like the same minute and maybe the same 30 seconds, the damage seemed bad, but not girders falling down bad, which is why I was a little bit faked out here up until the moment where they actually abandoned ship. I wasn't sure they were going to. Yeah, I kind of thought that O'Brien was going say, like, turn back to Cisco and be like,

you know, I think I could probably staple some stuff back in place and we could stay in this fight or something. But no, it's Ben Cisco saying to the little D, he will abandon it. Mm-hmm. I shall abandon you. And that's it, they- Yeah, and then they punch out in a very fun, get to the escape pods exterior shot. Right.

And change leader on the bridge of a tick is like, what the escape pods go because they're just gonna go back and tell everybody how badly they got their clocks cleaned and it's gonna just demoralize the entire federation. One thing that I'm very irritated about with this Dominion War is that change leader and when you and stuff never talk about the Romulans or the Klingons, like they are always talking about their enemies, the Federation.

Yeah. I wish that they'd come up with like a the allies or some blanket term to describe the the star empires that have teamed up to fight them. They needed name, a good name. The Federation ain't it. This ain't it. This is a show that came up with the no Jay consortium. So we know they have it in them. They have this gear and they don't use it. And that's sad. The survivors make it back to deep space nine and Cisco tells Buttbuck, tells Buttbuckle what I was going to say. Cisco tells Buttbuckle how sad he is about losing the defiant when a message sent from Cardassia appears and it's one of those all channels, all frequency type deals. Like, if you want to change the channel, you can't even.

It's just gonna be on your screen until it's over. And it's Demar. Demar has agreed with the three major networks and sees band to broadcast and address. And he goes public with his allegiance to the resistance. He says basically like, Kardashian made a deal with the dominion and we have been dying by the millions

to do this war for them. And what have we got to show for it? Nothing like that. Like we feel like strangers on our own planet. We don't conquer any new territory. We got these guys wearing helmets, saying things we can't understand. Hey, why don't you speak Cardassian? Love it or leave it thought Gore.

And so, you know, we see the reaction of the federations being like, thank fuck, like one thing broke our way this episode. Yeah. And we also see the reaction of Wayune and change leader and Thoughtgor watching this from their control room. And there are Cardassians in that room. I really wish we had cut to a couple of them. Yeah.

Awkward. Awkward. Awkward, right? Cause they probably like worked directly with tomorrow a lot of the time. And you got to imagine you're going to be executed not long after this moment, right? Like one, one party or the other, whichever comes out on top is going to execute me. Interesting moment for way you know, who is so up until now with so big picture company man. But now takes this threat very personally because the target for the Cardassian resistance is this Rondak 3. It is the thing that Demar is talking about on his big message and that's where

they make new wayunes. If that place is destroyed, he's going to be the last one. And that's interesting to hear coming from him because it's not usually so concerned for his own life. Right. I mean he has like no empathy and suddenly a problem that everyone else experiences, i.e. death comes home to roost and suddenly he's anti-death. And you should clone yourself on his still alive. So you can go fuck yourself. Yeah, it's so interesting how like the most hard-line thinking people, you know, really are unable to change their feelings about a circumstance

until it impacts them directly. Classic empathy gap issue here. Yeah. But, um, but yeah, that's good, but you have empathy for this episode, Ben. I sure did Adam. I thought this was a really good episode. I mean, boy, we are deep into our episode about it. This took a long time to recap because I just feel like it's so much episode. I feel like this by itself could have been two episodes in a way. Is it dense crumb to this one, isn't there? Yeah, yeah. This is the kind of episode where

Paul Hollywood finishes it and there's like a pause and you can't even tell what's about to happen and then he just reaches out his hand. He wants to shake this episode's hand. What a moment. Yeah. That's got to feel great. Wow. Did you enjoy the dense crumb of this episode, Adam? Oh yeah. I mean the sort of episode I want to dunk into a mug of coffee before taking to the dome. This is a perfect sponge. Great sponge to this one. Yeah. Very symmetrical looking frosting. Really it looks like it took a lot of time and effort.

You know, especially in this humidity, not enough people talk about how difficult it is to make an episode like this. In this humidity. What is raining right outside the tent? And they really pulled it off. So yeah, yeah, I like the episode. And this is like, here's the thing. Does anyone remember episode four

of the finale to Deep Space Nine? Like I wonder to what extent people just think of the finale as this entire run, without being able to really distinguish the individual episodes, I wonder what extent we'll be able to do that when it's over it. And I'm gonna guess, not that well. Well, we're well known, unresearched idiots.

So that's a perfectly reasonable assumption on your part, Adam. I would argue that maybe it is a writer's room success if that is less possible, because that was the goal from the start, right? One contiguous story being told. Yeah, I think you're right. Well, Adam, do you want to see if we have any contiguous priority one messages in the old inbox? I think we've done it wrong if we do it that way. These need to be separate. Priority one messages. We can't just

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Or the PO box. I'm receiving a code 47. How about a quiz? I guess we're gonna play a game with Mike T here. He's like calling drops. Yeah. He's actually like pre-visualizing the show here. Star Trek eye color, no cheating, Adam.

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I feel like that's a trick question. I feel like you want to say blue if you think of Mott, but they're probably not. Yeah. Way you. Blue. Oh! And then there's a bonus round here. Jordy.

Blank. Oh! And then, yeah, I mean, that's, I don't get the other, the last few ones. Holidaycali and Six Bay or TNG films don't have eyes, so what are we talking about here? Does, does Mike T include a, uh, an answer key here? Nope. Okay. No, Mike T does not.

So, uh, uh, uh, the editor of this episode, Mike T's given us a job is what he's done. Yeah, there'll have to be dings and buzzers. Yeah. Add it in here. Yeah. Wow. I like a spontaneous quiz though.

Yeah, let's go. The job, Mike T. Yeah. That would be another thing I would accept as an Apple Podcast review format, quiz us in your podcast review. Yeah. And if it's five stars, we might take up the quiz in a Marin.

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What's happened? Did you find yourself a drunk Samota? I had a hard time choosing one in this episode. I mean, I want to honor the life of SoulBoar. He's definitely not having the most fun here. No. Not by any stretch. I think, here's what I'll say. I'm going to give my drunk Shimoda to Demar. Not because he's drunk. He's gotten drunk Shimoda many, many times on the show for that reason specifically. There's a moment where Resat picks up a bottle of canar and Demar like takes it out of his hand and puts it back down instead of accepting any.

It's a new Demar here. And here's what I'll say about why he's my drunk Shimoda. This is like, this is the reap and so situation. Because this is the beginning of the resistance for him and he's got to be so excited. Like, it's before anything bad has happened. It's just this rules. Yeah, fuck yeah.

He has not begun to reap yet, which is when things suck. And that's why I'm gonna make him the Shimoda right now He has not begun to reap yet, which is when things suck. And that's why I'm gonna make him the Shimoda right now because this is as good, this is possibly as good as it's gonna get for him. And I think we all can relate to a person about to do a challenging thing before it all goes to hell. Like there's that moment before it begins

where you're like, maybe I got a shot. This is good. Yeah. This could be good. So it's Demar for me. What about you, Ben? Mine is Gal Rasat. The dreamy eyed Gal. The counter points to Demar in this episode. He comes in and I think the first line he has is the information you requested. And he just threw so much fucking English on that line that I laughed out loud when he said it. And I was like, who is this guy? Is this like the last time we all see this crazy character? What's going on? Like, I kind of feel like this character

just made the case for himself in that line. And I sort of wondered, because like we just watched an episode of Star Trek Discovery that is set in the Mirror Universe where it's a very different style of acting is evident on modern Star Trek shows relative to these late 90s Star Trek shows that we're watching right now. And when they go to the Mirror Universe, it gets big and theatrical and unrestrained in a way that is like surprising and weird and different. And it made me realize that what they're doing on modern Star Trek is in Mirror Universe time is like old time Star Trek type acting. Like this character coming in and just like blowing the doors off the room by saying,

The information you requested is the kind of acting that is being done to convey Mirror Universe now. That's expedient direction right there. Totally. Yeah. Look at this. This is how you should be doing it. It's just like I laughed out loud when he came in and said that. And so he instantly earned my Drunk Shemota in that moment.

Wow. Well, we got to see what sort of episode we're going to earn next time around. For that, we go to the game of buttholes. Well, the profits. It's the hit greatest Gen board game that tells us if we're going to do a normal episode or something fucked up. Yeah, you can follow along at gach.bizslashgame. And I'll tell you that the next episode is season seven episodes twenty one when it rains while Kira consults with Demar's rebel forces but

sheer makes a shocking discovery about the disease ravaging the founders shocking Adam we are currently on square 67. We are in the doorstep of a J-Gordon episode. That would be an episode. I don't think we've done this before, but we would have to make a piece of artwork representing the episode and share it with the other and post pictures on social media.

You know, we're in a pandemic. I don't want to use my precious pasta resources on a piece of paper plate art. Yeah. I hope you don't hit that one. I have a lot of macaroni product put up and covered somewhere. I'd be much more interested in hitting that Quark's bar,

which is just a little further out. You're required to learn as you play. Roll. We do also have a Quarx bar in range, and so we'll see what I roll here. Oh boy. Adam, I have roll the five. I'll never end! Drink! See, I shouldn a five. Oh, Lamaray! Drink!

It was the antidote! See, I shouldn't have said anything. That's... I just secreted the game. You secreted the game and the game secreted you. We've secreted our runabout onto the square that demands that we get drunk next episode. And so that we will do. Well, lucky listeners will enjoy what my voice sounds like drinking a pint glass full of fortified eggnog.

Yeah. This, uh, I think this episode, I think that episode will come out like after the new year, but, uh, oh, really? As, but as of this recording, we're still mid-December. It's Hanukkah. It's Agnog season, baby. Wow. Big ep for you and me then, and everyone listening. Big ep. And everyone watching, I should say. Looking forward to, if you enjoy the greatest generation, if you have a loved one that enjoys the greatest generation, we can really use your support.

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I reached out to Adam Ragusey yesterday about what exactly he's doing with his hair. We have the same length of hair, and I looked at him on camera, and I'm like, how does it stay out of your face, man? Yeah. You're not, what are you putting in it? And he responded, and he's like,

I, that's genetics, man. I'm just a greasy fella. He uses no product and his hair looks amazing. He has a spectacular mane. I would say. You're no slouch in the main department at him. I laid eyes in person on that mane today and I was pretty envious. Yeah, but it's dry envious. It's, yeah, but it's like dry and thin. It's terrible.

I gotta start putting stuff in it. That's, I'm not looking forward to those days. Gotta keep it out of my eyes. Hmm, you're looking good. You're looking good. Thanks, man. As does the goose. But we really appreciate everything

he has done for us over the years. And with that, we'll be back at you next time with another great episode of Star Trek Deep Space 9 and an episode of the greatest generation, Deep Space 9, which is going to do a lot of drinking. Heel, yeah. Feels like it's been a long time. It does. Looking forward do it. Don't move the car to the U.S. Don't move the car to the U.S.

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