The Greatest Generation - The P-51 of Theseus (ENT S4E1)

Episode Date: October 27, 2025

When the most kick-ass season of Enterprise starts in WWII for some reason, Captain Archer gets kidnapped by gangsters and Silik is back to slinking around on the ship. But after toxic sludge Daniels ...stumbles into sicksbay and dies, Archer returns to figure out exactly who needs to be stopped. What can be expected from any trip to the post office? Which room is next to the crying room and breastfeeding room? How does J. Paul Boehmer feel about himself? It’s the episode that didn’t have the budget for Khmer Rouge.Support the production of The Greatest GenerationGet a thing at podshop.biz!Sign up for our mailing list!Follow The Game of Buttholes: The Will of the Riker - Quantum LeapThe Greatest Generation is produced by Wynde PriddySocial media is managed by Rob Adler and Bill TilleyMusic by Adam Ragusea & Dark MateriaFriends of DeSoto for: Labor | Democracy | JusticeDiscuss the show using the hashtag #GreatestGen and find us on social media:YouTube | Facebook | X | Instagram | TikTok | Mastodon | Bluesky | ThreadsAnd check out these online communities run by FODs: Reddit | USS Hood Discord | Facebook group | Wikia | FriendsOfDeSoto.social Hosted by Simplecast, an AdsWizz company. See pcm.adswizz.com for information about our collection and use of personal data for advertising.

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Starting point is 00:00:00 Here's to the finest crew in starving. When it comes to my crew, you won't get any argument for me. This is a parody. Paramount owns the song. Welcome to the Greatest Generation. It's a Star Trek podcast by a couple of guys just a little bit embarrassed about having a Star Trek podcast. I'm Adam. I'm Ben Harrison.
Starting point is 00:00:24 Wave to the people. Adam. We're on camera today. Hi! It's one of our beloved Code 47 episodes. We only had a couple of new items in the P.O. box, but we had something sent directly to our houses as well. So I think maybe we'll start with the P.O. box items and close with the direct-to-home items, if that's agreeable to you. It is agreeable, Ben. As long as you give us an update about your relationship to the post office and the post office box.
Starting point is 00:00:57 because I think FODs really appreciate following along with the drama that that can sometimes be. Post office was not crowded today, and I got the nicer of the two main people that work the desk. You got a favorite. I got a fave, and he was like, you know, it's one of those, like, you give them the slip that was in your PO box, and they say, meet me at the door kind of post offices. And I go over to the door, and I like, my plan was to go just, past the door because that's the way it swang swung swings i like the first one and i was uh right in front of it when it flies open way too fast for him to have gone and gotten my package and
Starting point is 00:01:41 opened it it's other much meaner postal worker with a you know with one of those you know white plastic tubs she's going to go out and collect mail from the outdoor drop boxes and uh hit me with the door. I would expect nothing else, really, from that experience. I mean, I would expect either some sort of mental trauma, emotional trauma, or physical trauma from your experience, and this time it was physical. The Vegas odds makers didn't have to work very hard on this bet, Adam, but who you got your money on?
Starting point is 00:02:23 Who said sorry in that interaction? I ran to the window to bet it, and they pulled it off the board. Oh. I could get there in time. Captain, I'm sorry to disturb you. I'm receiving a code 47. Verify. It is code 47, sir.
Starting point is 00:02:41 Start lead emergency frequency. Captain's eyes only. First package here is one of these, I guess it was maybe drop shipped to us. It was shipped by fast mail M. Moore out of Melbourne, Florida to you and I. I love a name of a company like that. Yeah, I'm guessing that's like a mailboxes store and a strip mall kind of an operation, right? Sure. The more is often copies. Got a letter. Hi, Ben and Adam. Greetings from Melbourne, Australia.
Starting point is 00:03:13 What the hell? That's not Florida. This says Melbourne, Florida on the package here, but Melbourne, Australia from the letter. Okay. Can you pay less for postage if you're mailing from Melbourne, Australia, and you claim it's from Melbourne, Florida? Oh, this is to get around the tariffs, maybe. Maybe. Is it possible that there's some kind of wormhole between the two Melbourne's, and they're, in fact, one place, and this person is exploiting that fact to lower their postage fees?
Starting point is 00:03:49 I think it merits more investigation. Yeah, there's got to be like a true crime podcast that's getting on this right now, right? Yeah, yeah. I've been listening to and a supporter of TGG since I think 2018. You might remember me from such online meet and greets as that guy who was in a meeting room at work, October 2024, or alternatively from the classic 2020 P1, which revealed that I have a brother living in Melbourne, Florida. Okay, it's starting to come together. I do remember you, by the way. That did click, yeah.
Starting point is 00:04:24 For years, I've been wondering what might make a suitable Code 47 offering, and at last I discovered some genuine cling-on pain sticks while on holiday last year. You can tell that these are real both by the scale and the fact that they're purple. Who knew that Wharf just wanted his closest friends to gently soothe his aching muscles with lavender unguant? Anguant. What? I need Anguant. In seriousness, I hope these guys.
Starting point is 00:04:52 can be of use. I enclose a picture of the beautiful farm they came from on Kangaroo Island, 40 minutes by ferry off the South Australian coast. As I said, during our meet and greet, I'm sure there's a sizable FOD community in Melbourne and around Australia. And we'd love if the figures ever stack up for you to make a trip down to one of our many comedy festivals March through May each year. I'll sign off with a thank you for the years of brilliant pod and a question. I really loved the film festival episodes over on Greatest Trek. After listening to the Goonies
Starting point is 00:05:28 episode and noticing that the film included a Troy, a data, and an all too easy to escape from Brig and so many Star Trek caves, is it possible that it's canonical next gen? Best wishes, Jack, P.S. Mike, son of Fred here, longtime FOD
Starting point is 00:05:44 and brother of Jack, son of Fred. Jack was in charge of procuring the raw materials for this Code 47. God fucking damn it. And I managed the logistics. This involved hand-carrying them from my former home in Melbourne, Australia, to my current home in Melbourne, Florida, after a
Starting point is 00:06:00 long overdue vacation. It turns out that painsticks are not considered a munition so no actual smuggling was required. Oh, that's good, so these weren't in a butt. All the best to you and yours and thanks for the great pod, past, present, and future. So we've
Starting point is 00:06:16 got a photo of the farm here. Sure. Beautiful lavender farm. I'm going to go into the package now, a lovely gift-wrapped box, including a pair of pain sticks, Adam.
Starting point is 00:06:32 Look at that. It says so right on the package. We'll be putting pictures of these up on our socials if you want to check these out. If you're not currently watching the video. Oh, look at that. It's got like a ball-bearerick dispenser on there. I like that. Like a
Starting point is 00:06:48 Roland deodorant. Mm-hmm. Let's see. Let me think of where my most painful spot is right now. Oh, you know what? I bruised myself sitting down on a, on a fence the other day. I'm going to rub some. Is that a new chair back there? Yeah. Oh, yeah. Borrowing it from my beautiful wife. How about that? Very kindly lending it to me. Nice work. It makes so much less noise. I know. I thought something had been missing from the record up until now. Turns out that's all it is. That's great. Hey, these pain sticks so nice.
Starting point is 00:07:24 Very nice. Thank you, Melbourneians, for the kind gift. Thank you very much. Next package is a biggin, Adam, and it's from Harrisburg, NC. It doesn't say from whom, but I'm going to go ahead and cut into it. Maybe you'll find out. I mean, any package kind of has to say who it's from, right? What's going on there?
Starting point is 00:07:48 I'm noticing there's a label there's a label for lube filters on the side so maybe this is just some lube filters that somebody wanted to send us Bill Bill something got through we got to send this back to Bill Tilly
Starting point is 00:08:06 we've got a read before opening inner package letter here and it says LOL package down in the corner that was fun very fun Dear Ben, on a recent episode, you mentioned that Daron was an avid fan of garbage trucks. Since I happened to work for largest trash company, I went to the company catalog in search of a cool hat or stickers or something else that might intrigue a kid.
Starting point is 00:08:34 I found little mini trash cart, infant onesies, and some baby-sized shirts. But then I found this. And then it says, please open package. Just look at that package. Look at the size of it. It's huge. I don't know. I guess so.
Starting point is 00:08:51 Yeah, I see it. Oh, man. Wow. Got a waste management branded garbage truck. Yeah. I mean, maybe we should blur out the name of largest trash company. That's amazing. This is so cool.
Starting point is 00:09:09 Oh, man, Daron is going to lose his mind and so is wifie. Let me finish reading the letter. Hopefully, Daron will like it. Hopefully it won't drive the others in House Harrison to madness. And if little Daron asks where it came from, just tell him it's a gift from you. Since being a father myself, I think it's probably wise to discourage kids from accepting gifts from weird randos on the internet. Just consider this is a pittance of repayment for years of laughter and distraction. Your pods are legitimately one of the best parts of both the beginning and the end of my week.
Starting point is 00:09:44 And a rock, I know I can always cling to like Kevin with his real doll biz, Shimoda with his isolate ear chips, or Malcolm Reed with creepy ineffectualness. Hey, here's a second letter here. Dear Wendy Adam, Ben, Bill, Bill, Bill, Bill, Bill, Bill, Bill, Bill. And Rob. Thank you all for the extraordinary work you do. 2024 was an incredibly trying time in my life. And the world in 2025 is, well, I mean, look at it.
Starting point is 00:10:13 And one of the only things that can turn my trembles to rages and keep my soul from becoming Armis is goo angry and engorge are the laughs and ponderings you inspire with every audio drop, every trading card, every video, every expertly crafted edit, and every freaking show you do, live long and prosper, peace and long life. And if I may, would you mind expending all remaining ordinance and laying down an O'Brien drop? I am Chief Miles Edward O'Brien This is fucking spectacular
Starting point is 00:10:45 Yours and admiration Thanks and peaceful coexistence Adam, aka at Mahal over on Butterfly Hill Wow About that, thanks Adam Thank you Adam That is so kind of you
Starting point is 00:11:01 Daron is going to absolutely lose his mind Over this gift And your words Are truly heartfelt and appreciated Okay, Adam, I think this is the moment we've both been waiting for. Oh, yeah. The gift that was sent directly to our houses because you cannot send booze to a P.O. box. And we lowered our shields long enough for the nice folks at Lodgepole distilling to send us each a package.
Starting point is 00:11:28 And if folks remember, Lodgepull did a P1 on the show a little while back. And they were kind enough to send us some samples in the form of three different bottles. of gin. It should be said that we probably went through eight factors of authentication before before sending our home addresses to anyone. As we've done here with Lodgepole, Lodgepole coming through utterly here with three bottles of hooch in different flavors. We've got the Lodgepole gin Yuzu, the Lodgepole gin, strawberry, and
Starting point is 00:12:08 Lodgepole gin dry. Arboretum dry gin. Yeah. They're all little differently colored, too. Yeah. This arboretum dry gin says it includes botanicals from the Washington Park Arboretum, which is pretty cool. And this is all distilled in Seattle, Washington. Your old hometown. Love kayaking through the Arboretum. Oh, cool. Great thing to do out there. Are you like sneaking botanicals into your boat?
Starting point is 00:12:38 and then taking them home and distilling with them? Or how are you working that? No, when I went kayaking, I brought my own botanicals. As you do. Well, cheers to that. I thought I would maybe take a little sipparoo of each one of these and then make a gin and soda of whichever one I decide is my fave. I didn't pre-open these, like a dope.
Starting point is 00:13:03 These are all fresh, all unopened on my end. I have a confession that I have opened all three of them. Here's what I'm going to do. I brought out a little thing of tonic because I thought maybe tasting these raw would not be giving them the best chance of tasting great. And what I also did is I brought out a bottle of control gin, which is Plymouth, which is my current favorite gin of the moment
Starting point is 00:13:32 that I have with all my gin cocktails. Give yourself a baseline. So here's a bottle of tonic And a little glass And I think What are you starting with So I can have the same
Starting point is 00:13:46 I'm going to try Just sipping a neat Light pour of the dry gin Right now Okay I'll launch with that Hmm It's nice
Starting point is 00:13:59 It's got I'm going to say Some pininess to it And I don't think That's just because I saw the pine cone on the label. I think I'm actually tasting that. No, that's definitely coming through, yeah.
Starting point is 00:14:12 It's really nice. It is smooth, as my father-in-law would say. Very pleasing on the palate. I like this a lot. I like this in a gin and tonic context, especially. Not exactly sure whether I would do this with a martini or not, because, I don't know, I feel like the botanicals of a martini cut a little differently than this, which would be more vegetal in my mind, you know?
Starting point is 00:14:41 Yeah, maybe a martini with like a cucumber as the garnish. Great call. Yeah. Really, really good, though. Yeah, tremendous. And one thing I noticed, this is a little bit higher proof than what I've got for Plymouth, Plymouth being around 40%, this being 45. Oh, look at that. Wow. So a little bit hotter. Oh, a little high test. also 45 is the strawberry gin
Starting point is 00:15:07 which I think is going to be my next go I can do that do that next I like the way it smells this I could definitely see becoming a martini it's a beautiful color kind of a ever so slightly rosé
Starting point is 00:15:24 yeah cheers I am hmm okay that's really nice, and I'm glad I followed the arboretum with the strawberry. I think that's a good order of operations here. The sweet does really cut through the veg. It's not super sweet. It's got
Starting point is 00:15:44 the, I mean, not to use the term vegetal again in a second description in a row, but I feel like the, there is a vegetal overtone to a strawberry that this captures really nicely. It's really good. I like it. I also just really like the bottle design of these. They're very beautiful. Classy on a home bar, you know You know, sometimes you go to a restaurant And they'll put a water bottle on the table That's just in a nice bottle This looks like one of those nice bottles
Starting point is 00:16:14 That you don't throw away after you drink the gin You keep it and you use it for other stuff Put something else in it Yeah, that's really good Look, they're both really good I think I prefer the strawberry of the two Not that I dislike either It's okay, it's okay to have a preference, Adam
Starting point is 00:16:30 I want to rank them I'm gonna All right, I'm smelling the Yuzu. Ben, I obviously know what a Yuzu is, and I always have. But while I make my cocktail, maybe you could tell the FODs at home what exactly mean Yuzu. Oh, man. I mean, I think it is a Japanese variety of citrus, and I don't know much beyond that and that I really like it. Like when I see a Yuzu soda somewhere.
Starting point is 00:17:00 Yuzu hot sauce also is something. I remember having and really liking? I feel like I can rely on enjoying whatever that is when I see it somewhere, so... That's really interesting, like, if you see it in a thing, you know it to be good. Yeah. Or the person who included it in whatever they're making
Starting point is 00:17:18 has good taste. I pretty much always hate, like, perfumes and scents that people use to make a space smell different, except for every so often I'll be somewhere and I'll be like, what is that? that smells fucking great. And almost always the answer is verbena. And I don't know what verbena is,
Starting point is 00:17:37 but if I, like, go find the little scented candle or whatever, it's almost always verbena is the answer to what is making it smell so good in here. That is really interesting. You say that. And coincidental because I just switched underarmed deodorants to a kind that that's the scent. It's verbenia. And I don't know what that is. I'm cuddling with you at the first opportunity.
Starting point is 00:18:02 Hey, this is really great. I might like this the best of all three. Wow, that is really nice. I feel like that's the one I'm going to want in a gin and soda also, because it's like, it's really distinctive, and I feel like it's going to be its own drink in a really cool way. I take my martini's dry and Gibson style with onions, and if they don't have onions, it's olives.
Starting point is 00:18:30 but dry is how I like them. And I wonder, you could never have a dirty martini with any of these, I don't think. This is not the kind of flavor profile appropriate for that kind of cocktail. No? I always think of a dirty martini as a way to not taste the alcohol as much. Just get something else, if that should do. I don't mean to offend our friend and agent who likes his filthy. Yeah, yeah.
Starting point is 00:18:59 But I like the hot, sharp taste of a dry martini. But we should beat that guy up. Let's be honest. I'm going to finish up with my Plymouth gin and tonic. All right. The gold standard. Let's hear how it ranks against the Lodgepole distilling companies' wares. I should say this bottle of Plymouth sent to me by Jonathan Heffler, great FODs for many years.
Starting point is 00:19:26 I mean, that's just perfect. It's just like, unflabor. I mean, unflavored in the way that the lodge pole is, but like the perfect distillation of a gin in my mind. Just delicious. But, you know, what I learned by having the Plymouth after the lodge pole is that the lodge pole's in quality just as good, just flavored differently in a way that I'm really looking forward to enjoying
Starting point is 00:19:53 in the years ahead should these bottles last that long. Yeah, maybe the way to think of it is like a, uh, Coca-Cola is good, but I also like having the like small batch artisanal cola in the slightly smaller bottle. Sure. Every so often when I discover it somewhere. And I'm super down with this lodgepole gin stuff. Get yourself a German africola, for example. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:20:21 Pretty great. Fentenmans. All right, man. Well, cheers. Do you want to get into today's episode? Can't wait. I feel like we're, uh, we're. We're in a celebratory mood as all season premieres can sometimes be.
Starting point is 00:20:35 Indeed. This being the last season of Enterprise also. So the last season of this show, potentially. Yeah. Toasting each other and the show for so many reasons. Let's get into Enterprise Season 4, Episode 1. It's called Stormfront. Got a free speech and guitar.
Starting point is 00:20:57 All right. So we remember. from the last time on that we are in World War II for some reason. We start back in the shuttle where Mustangs are lighten them up, shooting their asses, and Travis Mayweather is a plane nerd, we learn here. He's gone to the air shows. He knows what these are. And they're keeping them working hundreds of years in the future. You can still go to an air show at CEP 51, do some loop-to-loops, apparently. I love that. Makes me feel good. One of the many ways I feel good about the future is knowing that these aircraft will still
Starting point is 00:21:36 be flying in the Star Trek future. Are these like the P-51 of Theseus though? Like by the time Travis Mayweather is seeing him in an air show, like everything will have to have been remissioned and replaced, right? That's a great point. Yeah. I mean, to keep these things going for hundreds of years. I think that's a certainty. I'm just going to say that no matter what, a P-51 Mustang would seem pretty cool to an ancient Greek philosopher. Are you a little disappointed when the P-51's break off and are replaced by artillery flack? Just how subject to damage a shuttle pod is from conventional ordinance? I thought this was bad. It does seem like they should be entirely hardened against this kind
Starting point is 00:22:26 of thing. Yeah. But it's like something's getting into the intake and I guess I don't know what they're intaking you know like what are they gobbling up so that they can shoot it out the back of the shuttle pot. I thought that this was all like warp power and impulse power and stuff.
Starting point is 00:22:43 I guess in some way you're sucking in flack and flack is bad. Yeah. Well pretty soon they've peeled away and we cut to one of your classic TV show Nazi convoys through Runyon Canyon. We're in the back of a German Lori with an SS officer who is doing your classic officer taunt of his prisoner of war,
Starting point is 00:23:12 talking about Greta Garbo and all the American babes he is excited about meeting when he goes to Hollywood after the war. I think legally you have to make your TV not to, fixated on American pop and celebrity culture. You see it all the time. I can't recall a time I haven't seen it. Americans are good at making movies. They're not so good at fighting. It is such a paint-by-numbers Nazi character.
Starting point is 00:23:39 I was like, oh, man, if this guy winds up being like the big villain for this episode, I'm going to have a tough time with this. And thankfully... I mean, it's so paint by numbers. Che Paul Bomer is the guy playing this character who played a different Nazi back in Voyager's two-part killing game episodes. Oh, fuck, he totally did, didn't he? Yeah.
Starting point is 00:24:00 They don't loaf him up in either version. It's always him. It's kind of a head fuck when you see it because you're like, is this the same guy for some reason? But no, it's not. Do you think that that's just like production, like we have a guy for arch-Nazi character? If you're Jay Paul Bowmer
Starting point is 00:24:22 and you've been cast twice for basically the same role multiple Nazi roles you're up for and get do you feel good about that I don't know I mean here's the thing the genetic superiority
Starting point is 00:24:40 argument for Nazis is bullshit and bad but if you're Jay Paul Bomer and you get these parts several opportunities in a row you got a feel like stereotypically you must have something going for you right yeah i mean he also got a bunch of alien roles on very like he was on deep space nine he he had a couple of other enterprise credits yeah last two credits in 2022 adam he had uh an alien role on the orville and he played larry king
Starting point is 00:25:11 on that domer miniseries i gotta say i can't see it i can't see larry king do you loaf up for Larry King Beautiful American actress for the hour Tucson Arizona You're on the line What do you have to say to Greta Garbo So great Boom goes the convoy
Starting point is 00:25:37 Which is under attack From folks in the trees And Archer uses this as a distraction To kick this Nazi Bust out of the back of a truck As if it's some sort of prison that can't hold him. He's quickly shot in the arm as he scampers away.
Starting point is 00:25:54 Not cool of the resistance to shoot the guy that's like got handcuffs on and is escaping from the people you're attacking. But you do you, partisans. You don't know what you're shooting at this point. You're just shooting to shoot. It's just fog of war. Dick Tracy gangster has Archer stuck up at gunpoint here at the end, which I should say, all of the gangsters
Starting point is 00:26:18 in this episode look like they're out of Dick Tracy, all of their suits, weirdly colored, all their fedoras, oddly colored. Looks like we got every hood in town in one room. Pruneface, flat top, Johnny Rand. That was like what the prop closet had for when they filmed Dick Tracy, and then again, when they filmed this. Yeah. I mean, I think that this episode trades a little bit on how much World War II stuff has been
Starting point is 00:26:43 shot in Southern California. I was like, where is this supposed to be happening? And when I saw the, like, strange colors on these guys' clothes, I was like, oh, you know, like, maybe that's to, like, add to the idea of them being in some podunk part of, you know, southeastern Europe or something. But no, we learn it's like Williamsburg, just outside of Brooklyn. Of course. On the bridge of the entrepreneur, they're listening to a Winston Churchill broadcast and grappling with the idea that they have traveled in time. time. And Topal wants them to double check
Starting point is 00:27:23 the censors, make sure that this isn't a glitch. And boy does this set off, Tripp Tucker, who is like, like how much more information could you possibly need to gather before you abandon your orthodox views on the existence
Starting point is 00:27:38 of time travel? Clearly we are 200 years in the past. What the fuck are we talking about, Topal? This isn't a damn sensor glitch. You met old you. Like two weeks. ago. This is so uncomfortable for everyone else on the crew. This is like working in an office that has a stated no relationships policy, when you know two
Starting point is 00:27:59 people are dating and they're openly fighting in a meeting in front of you. You're like, God, guys, like, can you not? Can you not do that? Hey, I don't know if you noticed, but down the hall, there is a breastfeeding room next to the crying room. And then right next to that, there is a having a secret. workplace relationship, uh, have it out with each other room. Yeah. If you don't have the third, you can use the breastfeeding room for that purpose. Mayweather in the scene wonders out loud
Starting point is 00:28:31 if this was a mistake to be sent back in time 200 years or if it was intentionally done. Very interesting question, Mayweather. Kind of a quantum leapy question, right? Like is there some like divine intervention happening here? Are we meant to be here for some reason? You know, what I wish, and I think you could include this in every episode of Enterprise up until now, not only do I want a little more Mayweather, but I want specifically a big gulp that Mayweather takes about the whole, yikes, 200 years ago on Earth, not a good situation for someone who looks like me. Yeah. And were I to be sent down to Earth during this time, I might have some feelings about being given a mission like that.
Starting point is 00:29:18 Yeah. Let's consider some other people that might go on the away missions on this particular adventure aboard the Starship Enterprise. Yeah. Not to like have Travis Mayweather write himself out of an episode. Oh yeah. The writers do that perfectly fine on their own. They sure do.
Starting point is 00:29:35 We learned that Silic is aboard because he crawls along the ceiling of a corridor and drops down to the floor. I don't know why I feel better seeing. Silic here in this moment. Somehow seeing Silic grounds me in the idea that like, if he's here, this is an actionable situation. It's not we're trapped here forever. We're in the reality of the show. Yeah. This will push the plot forward. It's not just a arbitrary side quest that they happen to throw at the end of a very, very long arc. We get a conversation between a couple of these gray-faced, red-eye aliens that we saw at the end of the last episode, one of whom is played by Tom Wright, also of Voyager fame. I'm surprised he wasn't like the alpha of these aliens,
Starting point is 00:30:26 just given like what a fucking powerful performer he is. I know. I felt the same way. Doesn't anyone see that this is wrong? We didn't get to see the back of the head of this alien in a way that I wanted to see if they'd undone the harm that they did to him when they made him too, Vicks. Contractually, I feel like you get to write that in if you're going to come back to Star Trek. Right, right. Anyways, they're talking about how the resistance is really ramping up its efforts in this area, starting to become a little bit of a problem for the Nazis.
Starting point is 00:31:01 And the Tom Wright character is getting in trouble because he did not personally oversee the transfer of the prisoner, Jonathan Archer. So the boss dude Vosk, who's in the like SS Obergrupin Fuhrer outfit, says like, you know, he really fucked up on this one. That guy's definitely a temporal agent. We need to figure out where the fuck he went. Spare no expense figuring that out. Yeah. And promises are made about finding Archer given his elevated value as a prisoner.
Starting point is 00:31:34 I mean, that's all you can say if you're hench Nazi at this point. like, yeah, boss, right on that, we'll get him. Yeah. Back on Enterprise to Paul works in Archer's clarinet rental room, she will sit in his chair. When Tripp Tucker comes in to apologize for all that lip he gave her in the previous scene, that's a good moment, right? Did you say to apologize? To apologize? I didn't say it, but I should have said it.
Starting point is 00:32:05 They talk a bit about what Captain Archer would do in a moment. like this, before Reed comes in with some interesting intel about some skirmishes going on in North America in the East Coast and the South, places where Nazis would have to wait decades to take root. It's true. Something's very wrong down there. I like that the scene spends a little time talking about, like, it's really weird that we just did that whole story arc and now we're doing this.
Starting point is 00:32:34 Like, that's pretty exhausting and wild, right? And they do, you know, give some air time to that as an idea. Legally, it's just a fart joke. You will never take the greatest shit alive. Ben would rather die. Rather die. What do you make of an insult made in public but an apology made in private? I thought a lot about this moment because I've stepped in this particular pile of shit before.
Starting point is 00:33:06 where I'll shoot my mouth off and I'd be like, fuck, fuck! Shouldn't have said that! And then later on I'll go and like make amends, as you do. But I feel like it is so much more powerful to when you offend in public,
Starting point is 00:33:23 apologize in public. Sure. And so I felt like Tripp here was being I don't know, a little weak about it. Yeah, but maybe when you're in your relationship with the person you don't want to like over-apologize in front of
Starting point is 00:33:36 or everyone for fear of like outing yourself as being in a relationship with the commanding officer your ship. It feels performative in that context. Like we're in a relationship and I'm going to show like, you know, like there are so many dynamics that that could be indicative of that you don't necessarily want to like rope other, you know, innocent bystanders into. Yeah. Your apology is for the person you're apologizing for. It's not for the audience ever. So. Yeah. I think I'm with you on that. No quad box, no social media post from Tripp Tucker. No.
Starting point is 00:34:10 Just a quiet, dignified private apology. I'm going to put my nipples on the table and just apologize to you personally. You're never going to let that go, are you? The idea that Ohio and Virginia are loaded with Nazis just doesn't make sense in the 40s. So they do feel that the war is going differently and has been messed with timeline-wise. And this is a problem. They got to figure out how to solve this thing. In Six Bay, Dr. Flux tries to get Porthos to eat a bowl of liver and cheese.
Starting point is 00:34:45 But he's not having it. No, I can't say I blame you. And it's like the chicken livers that you get in a little tub at the deli counter. No, I'm just going to ask, man, where did he get the liver? Now that you say, like, ordinarily you'd get it in the tub at the deli counter. There's none of those on Enterprise. That's what I'm saying. Like, did they stop somewhere in the Delphic expanse, like before all of the events of the last couple of episodes and, like, do a big shop and like, you know what, we should hit the butcher counter up, you know.
Starting point is 00:35:18 You see, I just harvest the livers from the sea slugs that I have in my aquariums. As soon as I started in on that impression, I realized how close to Obama had sounded. The liver Is something I get from the sea slugs You see, the Republicans will tell you You shouldn't be eating liver Cheese and liver Something I know no dog to be able to resist
Starting point is 00:35:52 This one does And almost as gross As a bowl of liver and cheese Is Daniels Who staggers in Looking like the guy who falls in toxic waste at the end of Robocop. He looks like he is a high-speed car impact away
Starting point is 00:36:09 from just being liquefied on a windshield. That's really true. It does not look great. Did they overdo it with Daniels? I just got to ask. He was hard to look at. When they described what is happening to him later, it actually makes sense.
Starting point is 00:36:25 Yeah. Only his costume reads as Daniels, though. Like, I wish that they had maybe dialed back the makeup just enough to make him, like, obviously Daniels. you know? I think he looks as bad as anyone we've seen on Star Trek. Yeah. He is really tough.
Starting point is 00:36:44 What are those guys, the guys in Voyager that like steal your organs? Mm-hmm. Yeah. He's like those guys. Yeah, he looks like a Vidyan. A Vidyan. He's like the guys in Star Trek Insurrection
Starting point is 00:36:55 that like get their skin stretched back on their faces. That guy. Yeah. Yeah. Yep. Yeah, he's up on that mountain for sure. It really is. Archer is also in a six-bay type context.
Starting point is 00:37:10 He's had his bullet extracted by a lovely young woman who has him in her apartment. We learned this is Alicia Travers. And she explains that it's 1994 and this is Brooklyn Baby. And some like obligate Star Trek nods to the like fucked up conditions for black people in the 40s, even not considering the Nazis have invaded and like looking out the window it does not look like any fun outside say you were thrown back in time
Starting point is 00:37:44 or forward in time just outside of your own time Ben how long do you resist asking what year it is because Archer does that thing in this scene where he's like looking out the window and he's like hey by the way what year is this I don't think you could do that right you gotta find like a copy of a newspaper or like look at somebody's phone screen hope they have the date and time as one of the widgets on there you know
Starting point is 00:38:12 they underplay this a bunch because when he asks what year it is and alicia says 1994 you don't get her like and the and the eyes i made were just like i looked at a a check hitting the table that was way way more expensive than i thought it was just like whoa This guy's pretty fucked up. It really is. I wish they'd said which neighborhood in Brooklyn this was. Did you not recognize it? I mean, I recognize the back lot that they shot it on. Yeah, so do I.
Starting point is 00:38:44 I think we walked that back lot. We sure did. So we cut to the White House. Also a place that you and I have walked around. Yeah. Heavily damaged and covered in swastikos. We have an alien Nazi inside showing a weapons test video. to a human Nazi major general,
Starting point is 00:39:03 and this weapon kicks ass. This is a future weapon, clearly. Problem is, it is going to take a lot of power. And in 1944, like, the things that the future qualifies as power come in the size of, like, a watch battery. A 1944 equivalent of that is, like, a dozen train cars full of battery power. Like, they need so much of the raw materials required to make these things that this major general is like, fuck off, man.
Starting point is 00:39:37 Like, we have a war to fight and we have a perimeter to defend. If I'm giving you all of all of this stuff, like, we're not going to be able to defend ourselves. And he's like, why don't you just go into the future and get your watch battery? Oh, because kids would choke on them. Gotcha, gotcha. Okay, so that does make sense. I will try to get you the 38,000 metric tons of aluminum then. Yeah, and we'll also make it taste super sour, you know, for the kids.
Starting point is 00:40:02 For the kids, because, you know, like, I'm a Nazi, but I'm not a monster. Bingo, how fun. We get to see the map of the conquest that the Germans have accomplished in North America here. Yeah. It seems like pretty much the whole eastern seaboard has been grabbed, but the rest of the U.S. is still under American control, and there's some squabbling along the line of combat. Like, this guy is, like, pretty stressed about the idea that the Americans could take all of these conquered lands back. And this alien dude is like, you know what? We can help you make sure that doesn't happen.
Starting point is 00:40:40 You just got to give me all these materials to build these webs. This is like that moment in sieve when you advance so far in science that your weapons making ability is, like, already artillery when the other folks are using, like, clubs and spears. he promises that like look defending your territory is not going to be a problem once you have these weapons it's going to be worth it yeah they're all fans of purity here like that's like that is what aligns the gray face red eye alien guys with the Nazis is there is their love of purity didn't you want a half an hour more of a conversation between these two where the Nazi comes to grips with the alien being their version of purity. So you're pure?
Starting point is 00:41:33 Because I'm just, I'm looking at your face. It doesn't look like it, man. It doesn't look like you've been living clean. I mean, you're very clearly white in some places, but I mean, the red eyes, the general lumpiness. Yeah. I don't believe you're a vegan, you know? Let's just say that. So we're getting our requisition.
Starting point is 00:41:55 That's decided. And back up on the ship, Flox talks to Paul about the way Daniel's body has been damaged. It's basically like accelerated aging in some parts and accelerated de-aging in other parts. And so, well, it's all his body. It all doesn't work together very well because of this effect. And Fox is like, I'm amazed he's alive. He's not going to live much longer. And I don't really know how you treat this.
Starting point is 00:42:26 It's a healthy young person's penis and an extremely droopy pair of balls. And unfortunately, I do not have a bat that will suck this out of him. He doesn't know why Daniels is in this condition, only that he's not expected to survive the day. And that's pretty bad news to DePaul, who really needs to talk to him, because Daniels might be the key to why they're there. and also how to get back to their own time. In Alicia's apartment, we run into Sal and Bobby Bacola hanging out with him. They're sort of like guys who were the mafia
Starting point is 00:43:05 but are now the partisans for lack of anything better to do while the Nazis are in town. They're working with Alicia and they're like, yeah, man, like the Gestapo is kicking indoors all over town looking for Archer. And, you know, we're not quite sure what to do about that because it's really fucking our shit up as the resistance and sal really wants to know like why the the Nazis are so hot to get their hands on archer archer's been interrogated recently
Starting point is 00:43:35 yeah what is holding a gun to his head going to do at this point i thought this is cute yeah i love the i love the the faint that he says it's classified like that's such a good direction to head with it in, you know, a wartime context and in a, you found me wearing a weird uniform context. So, uh, Sal is persuaded not to shoot him, basically. The idea is floated to, like, get the hell out of there, right? The, the Gestapo is doing, like, door to door searches. Maybe they're not going to be safe in Alicia's apartment. That's something Alicia's not going to do. And the gangsters kind of fuck off without them to find out what happened to their guy, Vic, on their own. Indeed. Daniels wakes up in Six Bay and Tepal's there. He's like,
Starting point is 00:44:24 kill me. And Tepal's like, yeah, yeah, yeah. I mean, I really want to. Like, I don't want to look at you anymore than you want to feel the way you feel. But before you go, I need some info. You should know that Jonathan Archer is dead. And Daniel starts going off on you have to stop him. And the temporal war is no longer cold. The question being who is him? Yeah. Like, what is he talking about? Yeah.
Starting point is 00:44:53 The picture he paints is that the timeline is like completely screwed up and in tatters. And there's like all kinds of improbabilities happening all over the place because of it. My balls don't match my crank. They're different ages. They're solo, one ball, ten years lower than other ball. Make it stop. My bush kind of all over the place. Impossible to groom.
Starting point is 00:45:30 I mean, those are to Paul's marching orders. Stop him, whoever that is. And we cut away from this scene back to Earth before we learn anything else. We learned that a Nazi search party has not found Archer yet, but they have a resistance member they can interrogate for more information. They also have found enterprise in orbit. Yeah. That seems to be a crucial bid to business, right?
Starting point is 00:46:04 So maybe they'll learn more pretty soon here. This is what Graff says to Vosk. like there's like the reason shit hasn't been making sense is that there are future people afoot and that starts to animate Vosk even more so over in Alicia's apartment she serves Archer a meal of stuffed bell peppers which I thought looked really good you know I remember having this meal growing up yeah there's nothing wrong with this get some tomatoes and rice mix that up put it in a bell pepper, bake it? I can see doing this tonight.
Starting point is 00:46:42 Sounds lovely. He compliments it, but she knows that he's bullshitting her. I was distracted by Archer wearing her husband's clothes. I didn't like this. She seems to have encouraged it. Like, this is her choice, but
Starting point is 00:46:58 it didn't make me feel any better. I feel like every woman living alone in every movie or TV show still has their husband's clothes, whether they're off at the war, or dead, like, that's always around, and it always happens to magically fit whatever dude has wound up in their apartment. In between forkfuls of stuffed pepper, Archer, like, points a fork at the record player,
Starting point is 00:47:22 and he's like, hey, this is colored music, isn't it? I really like this stuff. She explains that the Germans outlawed black music, but the neighbors all pass a phonograph around night to night so that it's always playing, and the Nazis can't figure out like where it's coming from pretty great she talks about feeling like pretty betrayed by the american government for having turned tail and run when the nazis mounted their invasion and archer's like all right well this is going to sound really weird but i feel like i have to ask have you seen any germans who are like especially pale and also have beady gray eyes
Starting point is 00:48:05 you know like when someone falls off a motorcycle and gets a bunch of like pavement and stuff impacted into their skin like have you seen anyone around who fell on their face and like were maybe dragged by their own motorcycle for a time and we're talking like 1940s level reconstructive surgery skills yeah no insult intended i'm just saying that like it will get better let's just say the surgeon in charge made no attempt to remove the gravel from the face. And in fact, maybe they added more gravel. Yeah, maybe they did it on like the roof of a housing project. And there were just like lots of extra little pebbles around. And look, I just want to say this, like just so we're clear, this isn't an indictment of housing projects or the abilities of a 1940 surgeon.
Starting point is 00:48:59 This is just a description of a guy's fucked up face. This is like much more. more about something we can agree on, which is that Nazis are bad. She doesn't necessarily believe in these people, but she thinks Sal does. And she's like, I can put you back in a room with that guy if you really want to. He has some feelings about those people. Back on Enterprise, Tripp works to repair the shuttle pod on a little floor creeper when Silik scurries in. And Tripp blamed Silic for this whole situation. Silic in the scene denies it. And then he forces Tripp at phaser point to let him into the shuttle. Trip doesn't want to do this. Tripp just finished repairing this thing. He'll be
Starting point is 00:49:45 damned if he's going to lose the shuttle now. And they get into a fist fight and eventually Silic is like pulled into a sleeper hold. The thing about Silic, he's squishy. So good. And he slithers right out of it. And Tripp gets shot at the end and a shuttle pod is launched. The shuttle pod launch they pick up on the bridge. And DePaul orders Reed to fire on it, like immediately. Yeah. Once they realize a Sula Bona is on board, Tepal doesn't hesitate. Mm-hmm. Like, she is so much more on her game than those dudes that were working on the Star Destroyer when the escape pod dropped out of Princess Leia's ship. Great reference. I'm not sure if our audience would understand it, but I get it. No, no, no, no. Look it up if you're confused.
Starting point is 00:50:30 Yeah, like, Silik did not seem like entirely menacing here in a way that I thought was interesting. Like, when Tripp is like, this is all your fault, he was like, it seemed like he wanted Tripp to go with him for reasons other than taking him as a hostage is what I'm, I guess, trying to say. I was surprised when it was revealed that Tripp wasn't on board. It's also like really scary on the bridge when you hear that the shuttle bay has been decompressed. Right. You're like, oh, fuck. Like, Tripp was, like, lying unconscious on the, on the floor in there. Yeah, you expect to see a floor creeper and a southern gentleman floating outside in space.
Starting point is 00:51:12 Archer and Alicia meet up with Carmine, Bobby Backelah character. How great does Archer look with this fucking newsy-style hat he's wearing pretty great? He always cleans up nice in his time travel Epps. Carmine gives Alicia some burger meat wrapped in in some newspaper. And Archer's like, let me look at that. Let me see what year it is. He's like, why are you always asking that? I mean, you think he's asking about the newspaper.
Starting point is 00:51:42 But what he does is, like, dig a couple of fingers into the grind. He's like, this looks like about 30% fat. Wow. This is definitely like a 1940-style grind to the ground beef. 70-30, hard to find, you know. You know, ordinarily you have to, like, ask the butcher for something like this. Yeah, yeah, like 80-20 is the best you can do typically in the case. Right.
Starting point is 00:52:04 What do you think it is? Like short-rib and like belly meat? We are already talking about the ground beef more than it gets screen time. Because once the Nazis on patrol clock them, they got to dump the beef. They dump it into a wastebasket to avoid the Nazi patrol. It's like a wastebasket that is full of other newspaper. So it's like, man, you're not. never finding that beef like you're gonna you're gonna be sifting through that for years before you
Starting point is 00:52:33 find that beef that beef is gone yeah and this is a pair of like nazi soldiers on patrol who want to harass what they have perceived as an interracial pair and it's a pretty ugly scene and very uncomfortable and they got to get the fuck away from these guys on the enterprise bridge The going theory is that the hymn that Daniels was talking about has to be Silic, right? Like, that's a pretty straight line to draw between those two things. They don't have a fix on the shuttle pod at this point either, but what they can do is get close. We learned that Tripp Tucker was not on the shuttle pod in the scene also when it left. And Silic, strangely, made the decision to save Tripp's life.
Starting point is 00:53:25 dragged him out into the hallway, closed the door, got into the shuttle, and escaped. And so they've got a three-kilometer circle to search for the shuttle within. And it's going to be Tripp and Travis going down to do this. Meanwhile, in Brooklyn, Sal brings Archer to meet Joe Prazky in an abandoned building. And Joe Praske says that an alien with red eyes hits him up from time to time, for information. And Joe needs the money so bad, sometimes he'll just make up a bunch of shit
Starting point is 00:54:01 to satisfy this alien. And Archer, after hearing this is like, I would like to meet this alien with red eyes. But Joe kind of hesitates. I mean, that's Joe's meal ticket, right? Like, what is it for Joe if he gives up his red-eyed alien connect? Well, that's what makes Sal's argument so interesting.
Starting point is 00:54:23 He's like, how about I sweeten the pot? by giving you more money than what this red-eyed alien gives you. And Joe's like, eh, I don't know. And then Sal's like, how about I shoot you? I shoot you fucking dead. What do you think of that? Hey, you think the Germans are tough. Get me in a bad mood.
Starting point is 00:54:41 So Tripp and Mayweather beamed down into a forest, and they're looking for the shuttle. They're prowling around. Archer and Sal wait for this alien. And one thing I love about the way New York has always depicted in TV shows is like tons of alleyways, which is like, anybody who's ever been to New York knows there are no alleyways, which is why there are garbage cans on the street everywhere. And in the summer, garbage piles up on the sidewalks and stinks to high heaven. Like, there's nowhere to put it. There are no alleys. It's what made my first visit to New York so confusing.
Starting point is 00:55:16 Yeah, it's like, I want to like go fight some street tuffs in a back alley. where are they all? Yeah. Yeah. This Nazi with red eyes is trotted out and he is quickly surrounded by mobsters with guns. Yeah. And he has moved into the light pretty quickly and he is ugly.
Starting point is 00:55:39 Oof. Woof. This is the first time in delight that this guy has been seen by this group of humans. Not a great first impression. Pretty upsetting for all of them. And also upsetting is that he is razzing archer, the only one of them who seems to know anything about what's going on for being such a shitty temporal agent. He's like, oh, man, for a temporal agent, you sure are a no-nothing dimwit. Oh, my God.
Starting point is 00:56:07 What do you even think this is? Are you wearing that lady's husband's clothes? Look at my fine tailored suit. As a time traveler, there are standards. this is Hugo Boss a lot of people don't know that he did the uniforms for the upper ranks of the Nazi regime weird that people will just buy that suit and wear it to a wedding now anyways Sal shoots this guy in the hand yeah yeah so like prompt him to to make with the information and he's like I don't want to be here any more than any of you do like this sucks for me too we're just trying to get home leave us alone and he mentions that he knows about Archer's ship in orbit and this is the first Archer has heard anything about this. And he talks about the, like, insignia on Archer's uniform matching the ones that they've observed on the ship in orbit.
Starting point is 00:56:59 Archer is swimming and the air raid sirens go off. So it's time to scram. But we hear something about this temporal conduit. Archer's like, tell me about that. And he refuses. He does a little villain monologuing. Doesn't quite beg for it the way Tuvix did. But Sal punches his teeth.
Starting point is 00:57:19 ticket the way Janeway did. I mean, Sal in the heat parlance does not hesitate. He's already up for a manslaughter beef at that point by shooting him in the hand. What difference does it make? He's rock and roll. He sure is.
Starting point is 00:57:33 I won't cease or desist because you really think it's fair use. It's also bad news about that crash shuttle pod bin because it'll be hours before it could be repaired enough to take off. And that's really not going to work for anyone involved.
Starting point is 00:57:53 This is a dangerous situation because you've got incoming vehicles to their position. And plan B is what they're going to have to do from here. A plan B that we aren't exactly clear on in this exact moment. Back in town, Sal and Carmine are trying to get some information out of Archer. Like, what did we just see? Like, who was that guy I just killed? Where is he from? We're talking Mars and...
Starting point is 00:58:17 Ordinarily, I don't care about the folks I can. kill but this one this one is going to stick out in my mind in my memory really makes you think yeah and uh they're wandering around in the streets at night and they're noticing that the streets are uh unusually full given that it's after curfew and that means they're being watched and suddenly german soldiers are like pouring out of buildings shooting at them and sal gets got and carmine archer and Alicia are, like, running for it. And I love that Carmine is such a real one. Like, he is, like, taking dudes down left and right as they retreat.
Starting point is 00:58:59 How sure are you that Alicia is going to die in this two-parter? I thought this would be the scene where she did. Because so often past people are just assumed to make sacrifices. Yeah. Willingly for people that they have very little information about their being time travelers or not, you know? Well, and also, like, she is a black woman, so, like, it feels like, A, like, this is what Hollywood does to black female characters, and B, actually an interesting plot twist would be Archer and Sal now have to work together, even though they really don't trust each other, you know? Well, I could see that happening. I could also see Elisha being introduced to Mayweather as a potential love interest before being immediately killed. That's a thing that happens in TV of this era.
Starting point is 00:59:49 That's true. That's true. This alleyway gunfight is very frustrating for Alicia. Archer is not going to be a love interest for her because she's like, we are fucking fighting off German soldiers and you're yelling into your glowing green thing that you stole off of the freaky man with the beady red eyes. What are you doing, man? I love her performance of frustration here. Like, she is literally doing all the work. It's really true. In defending their lives. we cut over to where the shuttle is at and Trippin Mayweather had rigged it to blow
Starting point is 01:00:21 because they can't let it fall into enemy hands in the past and oh man so many Germans show up with so many German shepherds and clown car into this thing like so many of them are physically inside the shuttle when they set it to blow do you think for a moment you consider at all the idea of shooting a phaser at some
Starting point is 01:00:45 one just gore setting like fucking up one of these Nazis as an example do you think that's too big a bluff because like trip and mayweather immediately have to put down their phasers because there's just so many Nazis with Tommy guns around and dogs yeah but like if you make an example of one of them fast enough with this future weapon do you think you stand a chance or do you think you're still getting cut to pieces by Tommy guns it feels like it must be so galling for future person to be taken down by people with weapons this primitive, you know. It would feel so bad. It would feel doubly bad to die like that.
Starting point is 01:01:25 Oh, fucking bullets. Oh, bullets suck. It's not like they're from like a Dune future where everybody has like a personal force field on them that makes bullets not work. Yeah. But like it's still embarrassing. Yeah. Finally, Archer gets his little communicator that he borrowed to work.
Starting point is 01:01:45 and Hoshi hears from him and the bridge like Tappala's way slower to react to this than she was to there being a Sula Pond on the shuttle that was getting chaked. Yeah. The whole bridge is just stunned at the idea that Archer is not dead
Starting point is 01:02:01 but she picks up the phone and Archer and Alicia are like in the process of getting captured by the other like eviler of the two aliens Vosk and they get beamed out in the nick of time. You never know if shooting someone mid-transport is going to damage them.
Starting point is 01:02:21 And it feels like a total dice roll every time. We just watch an episode on our hit New and now Old Star Trek podcast Greatest Trek where someone gets shot mid-beam out on TOS and they are fucked up. Yeah. It happened to Stephen Culp on this very show. I know. Not too long ago. I know, but it doesn't happen here.
Starting point is 01:02:45 They both arrive on Enterprise just fine. There must just be like a point at which the beam is like mostly gone. Yeah. And that's what happens. So everybody is pretty happy to see Archer back on the bridge. Do you think there's a point where like enough of your matter is gone where a bullet could kind of dodge the raindrops by luck? Were it to go through the place where you used to be? Yeah.
Starting point is 01:03:13 Or there's just like not enough. raindrops left for it to hit like like maybe it does drive like a truck through all of them but but like there it's just like a little bit of stomach acid or something yeah it's like oh yeah uh that'll leave a mark but i'm gonna be okay like it's tantamount to like a rug burn or something that just goes all the way through uh-huh you put a little pain stick on it you're gonna be just fine yeah yeah how about this scene of reunification on the bridge it's hugs all around when Archer returns. And if you could hug someone with a glance,
Starting point is 01:03:49 I think that's what DePaul gives Archer in this moment. What a moment looking at Tepal's face here. I was really moved by this. I'm consistently really impressed by Jolene Blaylock on this show. She's fucking great. Archer has joined a long line of Starfleet captains who have a tradition of bringing black women from the past back up to their spaceships in orbit.
Starting point is 01:04:16 Hell yeah, I got to bring her to the window, right? Yeah, you got to. That'll be next episode, I presume. Yeah. But he's also brought the comms device that he took off of Tuvix. So he's like, let's tap into this thing, see if we can't monitor their comms, get on top of what they're up to. But number one priority for me personally, Captain Archer, is to head down to Six Bay and see, my favorite boy
Starting point is 01:04:45 porthos porthos first then Daniels in a bedside scene where we learn of stealth time travel and that these aliens are capable of it this is part of what they've done
Starting point is 01:05:00 to disturb the cold temporal war turning it into the hot war that it has become this has enabled the faction represented by Vosk to defeat the federation and now it is like a race to the bottom all of the players in the cold war are trying to eliminate each other and this is what fucked up things for daniels and
Starting point is 01:05:28 daniels is like i brought you to the past because if vask can get his temporal conduit working and go to the future that is what causes the thing that i am going through right now and I would really like you to prevent that. So if you could do whatever it takes to shut down this conduit, that will prevent the hot war. It will prevent all of these time paradoxes. And I don't know what it looks like, but I know it's 1944, so with present-day technology,
Starting point is 01:05:59 this thing is going to be fucking huge. Did you see the deleted scene for this episode? I didn't. It's from this scene. And so, like, this conversation happens. But then at the very end of it, Archer is like, Daniels, why didn't you just take Enterprise J, the ship you were on, back to 1944? A much more formidable ship, a crew of thousands, including Zindy, and fight this on your own. Why didn't you do that, Daniels?
Starting point is 01:06:30 And they cut to Daniels' face, and it's like, beep, beep, beep. A question that would have broken the episode goes unanswered there. I don't know why Archer and company are chosen for this one. I can't wrap my head around it. Daniels is like, why didn't I take it? I'm just an ensign. Do you think anyone that I work with knows I'm even doing this? Travis and Tripp are brought before Vosk, who
Starting point is 01:07:09 and this guy's just real cranky about this whole situation you gotta believe the interrogation's going to be pretty hostile and once they roll TripTucker's sleeves up they're going to know I mean where do you
Starting point is 01:07:23 to attach the jumper cables at that point like so many options it's what you call a target rich environment this interrogation's going to take hours you might have to bring a backup and then
Starting point is 01:07:39 a third car battery, you're just going to run out of voltage. We get to see the enormous Nazi time machine. Yeah, look at how long it is. Look at that thing. Amazing that they take the time to hang the swastika banners over the enormous Nazi time machine. But they do, you know? They care about aesthetics. I've spent many hours in factories doing corporate video ban, and in every one of them,
Starting point is 01:08:09 there are giant flags and giant motivational banners in there. It's just what you do in a factory. I guess so. This didn't surprise me at all. Okay. All right. Well, were you surprised overall by this episode is a question I might ask. I can't pay.
Starting point is 01:08:26 Couldn't for late. Got no case. Tempting fate. It just didn't seem so long ago that we were watching Voyager and we got Nazi episodes there. I think I'm just suffering from a lot of. little bit of the proximity effect of this to that. Like, yes, Nazis are always the enemy and it just seems a little easy at this point. But what else could we do? Like, we're Star Trek in the 90s and we have a fixed budget and we have all these uniforms. And we have Runyon Canyon. Like,
Starting point is 01:09:03 what else could we do? This is what you get. And we'll bring back some of the same actors that we used before, too. Right. Like, they're never going to go back to, oh, yeah, like the aliens are working with the Khmer Rouge. Like, they don't have the budget for that, but they got the budget for Nazis are in the United States. I think the second part of this episode has the chance to redeem the first.
Starting point is 01:09:29 This first one just feels a little thin at the moment. Yeah. I did love seeing Big Posse from Sopranos. I'm happy anytime I see that guy in anything. That's Bobby Backel, not Big Pussy, but... Oh, right. Shit. Fuck.
Starting point is 01:09:46 Fuck! Fuck! I deserve to be punished for that. He was great in this. And, uh, yeah, always really fun to think. Bobby Backel is the one with the trains, right? He is the one with the trains. Imagine riding in that club car sipping on a nagroney.
Starting point is 01:10:03 Who's big pussy? Uh, he's the one that gets whacked on the, uh, on the yacht in the first. season. Right. Spoiler. Yeah. Yeah. I think a lot of people make that mistake.
Starting point is 01:10:15 They are rotund, southern Italian men, you know. They all look the same to me. Who the fuck really knows? How about you, Ben? You like this episode? I like this episode. I like that it's a little bit weird to say this, but they're sort of standing on their convictions with what Enterprise is about, which is that it is huge.
Starting point is 01:10:39 humanity trying to go out into the stars and realizing that they are not at all the masters of their own destiny yet, like, between the, you know, the Zindy and the temporal Cold War and just like the Vulcans, like, meddling in their affairs. Like, they are constantly being, like, moved around, like, a pawn on the chessboard. Yeah. And that feels very authentic to Star Trek Enterprise, uh, that they did not get a go home and get the ship fixed. up break at the beginning of this season. I'm guessing that that will happen at some point in the next few. I haven't really looked ahead much, but like everybody says that season four is when Enterprise gets like really kick ass. So I'm very curious to see where it goes from here. That's a great observation by you. I really like that feeling. I just started playing
Starting point is 01:11:32 no man sky. And it makes me think of that. Like when you're when you're just a tiny little shuttle in a great big universe, just trying to figure it out and everyone's more powerful than you and anything can kill you at any point? Yeah. Like that feels like what science fiction is as a foundational theme. That is a great game for you specifically as a like go make your own adventure in the open world kind of person. Yeah, for sure. I fucking love that game. I've played it for hours. I haven't interacted with anyone. It's just the perfect thing. During like a deep picture, pandemic. Me and Brad Bauman were doing that game a bunch. Oh yeah. Love that guy. I don't know if he's still doing it or not. But anyways, uh, why don't we go check the P1 inbox and see if there's
Starting point is 01:12:19 anything special for today's episode. Priority one message from Starfleet coming in on Secured channel. Need a supplemental income. Supplement. Supplement. Yeah, it's extra. By the interest alone could be enough to buy this ship. Ben, we got a promotional priority one message here. Here's how that goes. Fun is forever. Is a ceramic homewares company for folks enamored with their own space. Okay.
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Starting point is 01:13:23 and you get 20% off by using the code greatest gen, which is good off of your order and free shipping. This is really exciting. I love all the stuff I'm seeing on funnest forever.com. My wife and I were just talking about how, like, a couple of years ago, we were like, we should have, like, cool tableware. Like, we should, we should not be using the, like, mismatched collection of garbage plates that we picked up over the years. We should have, like, you know, we're like adults. We should have, like, good, nice shit.
Starting point is 01:14:01 And this is... You should have mismatched collections of ceramics like this. Like it. this is the way to go though like it's a little bit more expensive up front but you're getting something handmade by a real person who's also a friend of DeSoto
Starting point is 01:14:16 yeah oh man can I hip you do a thing that has made my life happier and better a fun thing to eat a snack out of yeah like that isn't just like a cereal bowl or something get yourself like a fun snack dish that's what I'm seeing a bunch on this website this funest forever site
Starting point is 01:14:36 Like a bunch of handmade little bowls, little vases, little things for eating snacks out of. So cool. That'll make your day better every time. Oh, man. This stuff is so great. I hope Allie gets a really big greatest gen bump because I'm very curious and covetous of these wares. Yeah. Fun is forever.com and the code is greatest gen.
Starting point is 01:15:01 Yeah. Love these bright colors. Our next P1 is from Marianne. Richard goes like this. Imzati from taking me to my first Renfair in high school, watching TNG and playing FF11 in college, honeymooning in Japan, and both Nat Oneing jumping off the same tower
Starting point is 01:15:22 in our first ever D&D session. I'm glad you are always by my side. Thank you for being my partner in nerddom. Happy 40th birthday, my love. May we have many more Renfares together. And it's so sweet. Happy 40th, Richard. I cannot imagine D&Ding in the same session with my wife.
Starting point is 01:15:50 We're close, but we're not close like that. That is an express train to Divorceville in my mind. Marianne and Richard are making it at work. I love this for them. Yeah, yeah. I'm glad this works for them. It seems like it would be incredible. incredibly dangerous for most people, but they're making it work.
Starting point is 01:16:09 Mirian and Richard are. Yeah. What a thing. Really cool. And 40th birthday. Yeah. Big deal. It's not gloss over that.
Starting point is 01:16:17 Yeah. One of the best ones. Ben, we got a personal priority message here from Don, who has listened since the beginning. And this message is to you and me. Okay. Don says, this is just a thank you to you both for continuing this great show. Keep up the good work. There's coffee in that nebula.
Starting point is 01:16:35 All right. Thank you, Don. We'll do our best. I mean, we'll keep up the work. Don, I got to say, like, so many priority-one messages are just messages to folks celebrating a birthday or folks, you know, pimping an awesome business or whatever. It's really nice to just get a message from time to time that says keep going. Because this is hard, Don, we're almost 10 years into this. It's nice to get some encouragement from time to time. I really appreciate it. Appreciate all of it. And if you'd like to leave a priority one message on the show, it's really easy to do.
Starting point is 01:17:13 You go to Maximumfun.org slash jumbotron and set it up today, whether you're going for that greatest gen bump for your business, wishing a beloved person a happy birthday, or just want to say something nice to me and Adam. Yeah, they all work the same. Hey, Adam. What?
Starting point is 01:17:32 Did you find yourself a drunk Shimoda? I know this moment bumped you, the way it bumped me. Because this would never happen for either of us. Neither of us would ever do this in a million years. So here's the scene. Archer has changed into Alicia's husband's clothes. He sits down to a plate of food made by someone who has conveyed food is hard to come by, good food is hard to come by, time to make food. It's all hard.
Starting point is 01:18:06 It's hard to live right now. Shit is dire in Nazi occupied Brooklyn. No matter how you feel about the meal that is served to you in that moment, not bad is something you never say to the person who gives you that food out of the kindness of their heart. Not bad. That's dark archer shit, man. Say anything but that. Say nothing.
Starting point is 01:18:32 Nothing is better than that. It's not excusable. But, like, he's been Dark Archer for an entire season now. Like, I do understand that there's a little bit of a hangover off of that. He's also got access to the best chef in Starfleet. I didn't consider that. The bends he has to feel. Yeah.
Starting point is 01:18:53 Like, this dude is taking MREs and doing magic with them. He's like that guy on social media who, like, takes, like, a fast food meal and, like, plates it up, like, three Michelin Star style. There are just so many moments in a person's life where saying nothing is so much better than saying the wrong thing. True. And this just feels like that. Talk about anything else, Archer, besides your true feelings about the stuffed pepper. You got to perform enjoyment of stuffed pepper. Yeah, that's what makes in my drunk shimoto.
Starting point is 01:19:24 What about you, Ben? I got to give it to Bobby Bacola. I love that guy. I don't know how his train is doing. Bobby pussy is how I confused him earlier. Big Bobby Pussy? You know, like I'm wondering if he's able to get his hands on things from the Lionel Corporation now that they're on the other side of the scrimmage line between the forces of evil and the forces of good. Yeah.
Starting point is 01:19:48 You know, that's got to be weighing on him. That's a hard thing he's going through. Sure. I hope he's in the next episode. I would like that very much. Did he die? I can't remember if he died. Kind of a lot of people died out on that street and in the alley.
Starting point is 01:20:02 Yeah. Hard to keep him straight. It was rough. Faith of the fart Speaking of the next episode Why don't we start To think and talk about that episode It's season four of Star Trek Enterprise
Starting point is 01:20:12 Episode 2 It's called Stormfront Part 2 With Silics help Archer hones in On the temporal operative Who altered Earth's past And threatens to destroy all of time With Silics help
Starting point is 01:20:26 What the fuck is going on here? Yeah, I don't get that at all Up is down, down is up Dogs and cats living together Can we trust that guy? He's a little squishy. Yeah. Ben, you got to go to gach.biz slash game to find out where the runabout is,
Starting point is 01:20:44 on the game of buttholes, The Will of the Riker, Quantum Leap. You do. Top floor is where the runabout is at this point, square 93. It sure is. What's it going to be next time? Only the 100-sided die can say. You're required to learn as you play.
Starting point is 01:21:01 Roll. I'm going to roll it. Do it. Ben, I have rolled in 85. Wow. Chula! Did I win? Hardly.
Starting point is 01:21:13 Which has kicked us down a couple of rows to square 78. It, too, is a regular old episode. Okay. Nothing wrong with a regular episode. I thought given the amount of Italian Americans, I thought it would be appropriate if we hit the breadstick square. No such luck. No such comedy coming from the game of buttholes at this point. What with all the rationing?
Starting point is 01:21:34 because of the strange supply lines caused by the partisans, you know, harassing the Nazis as they move around the map. It might be hard to come by enough breadsticks for that one. Were I to be given breadsticks by a kindly stranger? I would say something else besides not bad. Tell you that much. Yeah. Well, you're a class act in a way that Dark Archer never was.
Starting point is 01:22:01 No, no. I'm looking forward to that. episode. We got a lot of thank yous to give out here at the end of every episode of the greatest generation. First and foremost, got to thank Wendy Pritty, the producer and editor of this program without whom none of this would be possible. Got to thank Bill Tilly, our temporal Cold War Time Consigliary, who makes the hilarious trading cards you can find on the At Greatest Trek social media accounts. Those accounts are managed by Rob Adler, who also helps make the greatest newsletter, however, monthly email circulation that I think all Friends
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