The Greatest Generation - The P'tachlin Group (S4E7)

Episode Date: October 31, 2016

When Worf's ex-girlfriend beams onboard with the son he didn't know he had, it starts to affect his performance at work. Their domestic conflict has to take a back seat in the storyline when a diplomatic conflict heats up between two factions warring for control of the Klingon Empire. Is it appropriate to send an Evite to a political summit? How bad of a year do you need to have to forget that you were almost murdered? What's the most effective way for HR to approach a Klingon about his behavior? It's the episode we recorded from an internet ghost town!

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I am also your host. My name is Benjamin R. Harrison. Ben for the... only the second time in our show history we're actually looking at each other while we record. Yeah, this will be like a distant and vague memory for most people, but this is the day that the huge distributed denial of service attack was taking down large swaths of the internet. Yeah.

And we decided to get frisky and stream video of each other while we record this episode. Probably a bad idea. There's no one out here on the internet right now, Ben. It's just a ghost town. People kept refreshing Twitter for 20 minutes and they gave up. Man, it really brought into crystal focus.

How often am I on Twitter? Because when it was gone, I started to get cold. Yeah. Cold and tired. I feel like I was re-enanted by the internet today. I just felt like jokes that should have gotten seven, eight faves only got one or two. Yeah. Those are that those are tragic. Those, that's pre podcast traction right there.

What's the comedy there been? Where's my relief fund? Well, part of the reason we're, we're looking at each other during for this one is we want to get used to the idea because day by day, hour hour by hour are plans of putting together live versions of our show are coming together. Isn't that right? Yeah. We don't want to get up on stage and have it be like an additional shock that we're looking at each other. I think by the time this episode is out,

we're gonna be pretty close to actually being on tour. So people will know this by then, but we haven't launched our official announces yet, but we're like booking venues and we took a bunch of meetings with people that have done this before, so they can tell us not how to not be idiots about it. I'm getting really excited.

Yeah, that's a way to put it. Are you a little nerve? No? No? I'm a cookie-toe nervioso? No. I feel great about it. It's going to be fun.

We're going to be in a with with people who love what we do What could be better than that? Are you as on edge as a generic security officer when a bunch of klingons are Tromping around on the ship. I cannot wait to talk about that. Can we get into the episode? Let's do it. All right, it's season four episode seven Reunion It's season four, episode seven, reunion. This is becoming a speech. You're the captain, so very entitled. Hmm. A little type that ramble on about something everyone knows.

And this is the second time around for one John Frakes as a director. This time, he decided to keep his character in the episode. Yeah, he doesn't, he's not just there for one physical comedy bit. He's a pretty, pretty heavily involved. I mean, he's not definitely not a main or secondary character in this unfolding drama, but he's in the mix, for sure. The Enterprise is doing The enterprise is doing something that could only lead to something not at all related, which is scanning radiation anomalies.

I love all the generic shit that they can be up to when shit pops off. I feel like when Picard says radiation anomalies, that's start trick the next generation code for, oh damn, shit's about to get real. It's what you tell your mom when she's knocking on your door when you're actually jerking it, like, hold on, I'm scanning for anomalies. So yeah, they're doing this and a Klingon ship declokes right in front of them. And it's not just any Klingon ship. This is a Vortchah class battle cruiser. Looks like a tuning Fort class Klingon ship to me.

I think this is the first time we've seen one of these, right? Yeah, it looks pretty bad ass. We've seen the USS bounty type bird of prey. Yeah. But the battle cruiser is like a whole different, it's like on a different scale, right? It looks like it's put together a little better than the Klingon ships we've seen before.

Maybe we can get into this later, but the doors seem to slide more easily. There's less a din of like chains being dropped on the ground when you're on board. The fitting finish is nice. Yeah, it's still the air filtration, not great. Yeah, it seems like the difference between an American rental car on the lower spectrum, like the compact variety versus the anniversary or honeymoon special, that the guy at the desk gives you his rental cars go. It's a good one.

You're going to be happy to be seen on the ship. It's a Hyundai accent. Hahaha. Or similar. Yeah. Hahaha. I see you shipping out of a piece of a gourd there, Adam. What's that? Oh, yeah.

I've decided to drink some mezcal today. And I'm drinking it out of a hickory. The problem that I didn't know until I got down here and we got on Mike was that there's a little piece of dust floating in my mezzcal and you gotta dust the hickara before you pour a beverage in here, man. Oh yeah, you gotta dust that hick. I like displaying my hickara.

It lets people know that I'm up for whatever. Yeah, that's our centuries' horgon. Yeah, right. So I got a little floater in it and I haven't had a sip yet of the floater, but it's going down real smooth. I'm drinking a fine dail McWay Miss Caltade. Typically it's just a fine domestic, but I'm backing up with the domestic. I don't have any podcast fluid of any kind and you're just making me jealous. Look, we can hold if you want to go grab something. Listen, I've got boobs.

I just don't have beer. That's terrible. Don't you have the pink dot over there? Don't you have a bodega delivery service of some kind? Get some Amazon now up in this? I got laid off recently Adam, leave me alone. Oh geez. Well, just trying to make you feel better.

Yeah, you're making me spend your money. You're rubbing sand in it, buddy. So our friend, Ambassador K. Larr, gets on the FaceTime. Turns out she's on the Vortia. And she wants to talk to the captain. She says it's kind of urgent. So she gives him a heads up that she's beaming aboard and he's like, great, cool, KLR. We love KLR, right?

Everybody loves KLR. Picard's like, hey, Wurf, why don't you go say, hey, go to the transporter room and greet our guest. Picard delegates this to him. And this is the, not the first time that Wurf has attempted to get out of doing some Klingon shit because he's embarrassed to be around other Klingons. I always love these scenes where like you know Worf is like supposed to just be like down for whatever. He

can roll with the punches but if ever there's like some shit where he has to talk to a Klingon, he always like grabs the captain's elbow and takes him off into corner and goes like, can you please let me not talk to these Klingons because embarrassing. Yeah, these are the band kids that bully me You're saying. Yeah, these are the band kids that bully me. And I'm not really comfortable playing with them. Yeah, you know, Picardin is never, he is never one to like make a tricky job easier for his employees, right?

Like he never presses the red button. He's the boss that doesn't solve for them. No. You are a member of this crew, and you will not go into hiding whenever a cling on the vessel unclogs. Yeah, he wants them to step up and solve their own shit. You know, he's like a pretty easygoing guy, as we will find out later in the episode.

But like, the one thing is like, don't make a problem for me. You know? Yeah. That's the rule. He's big on delegation. Warf shows up in the, in the, uh, transporter bay and that's just KLR beams over, uh, but KLR and a little, little cling on boy.

And he's got a little loaf. Yeah. He's got a little, uh, little personal pan loaf, and instead, yeah. He looks like he little little personal pan loaf. And instead. Yeah. He looks like he's about to tip over at all times. Look at the size of that boy's head. Do you ever feel that way watching him walk around? He's a real like he's he's clearly a child. We know that right. He seems like a very small child. Like how old do you think he is? I think this actor is like a very he's I don't think he's a little person, but I think

he's a very small person. And I think he's smaller than his age. Yeah. Um, that's definitely the effect. Yeah. But, uh, I also, like, definitely wonder when I see him walking around. Like, did they make his loaf out of something super heavy? So he's like, having a tough time balancing or I'm not kidding that's like an orange on a toothpick. Yeah he's got a real self-aware walk to him like like a like a child trying to act like he's walking. Yeah. No. Strange. So Worf being a daddy because this is K. L.R.'s kid and she got knocked up when Warf was, when last she was on the ship. Kalar's here to bring tidings from the Klingon Empire that Kempak, the chancellor, he's on death story, he's not doing so great. and you might remember him as Kimpec of fat Kimpec.

Yeah. As in still fat, too fat. Too fat for that one lady. Yeah. What was her name, K-List? Oh, I don't know, but she was great. Yeah, but she was great, but she did have that no fatty's policy,

which was not cool, you know. Yeah. Get woke, K-list. Yeah, so Kempak has decided that Picard is gonna be the arbiter of succession. Much like when Wurf appointed Picard to be his chateach, Kempak has appointed Picard to be arbiter of succession, which means that when Kempak has appointed Picard to be arbiter of succession, which means that when

Kempak goes tits up, it's going to be Picard's job to pick the replacement, going on. When he goes swing in tits up, yeah. Kempak confides that he's being poisoned. Yes. And you can only assume that poison is the method of his murder because I'm not sure if a knife is going to have much effect. He's wearing a ton of metals at all time. Like, he's just covered in leather. Yeah, when Picard goes on board and like,

Kempeck gives him the download on what's happening. Like, the way the scene has played is that Kempeck is in really bad shape. Like he's sweaty and he looks weak and he's like hobbling around and like really like plops himself down on the chair. He looks like a man that should be in a sweatsuit, but he is not.

He is in like most formal, North Korean dictator level attire. He clearly made an effort because he knew he was having company over. Good for him. Yeah. You should always look your best, even though you're by yourself.

You know what I mean? He baked a cake, man. Yeah, and like this poisoning thing is like a real head fuck for every Klingon that is made aware of it. Like there's a scene where Picard explains this poisoning shit to Worf and Worf is like bold over, you know? It's the most...

Yeah, that's not the way Klingon's murder other Klingons. That's for sure. Yeah, and Worf actually has something pretty funny to say about this, like, that this murder would have no honor. Yeah. It's just like, oh, cool. So there's murders that are perfectly honorable

or somewhat honorable. Oh, well, this murder is half a gruesome crime, but half super honorable. It's real weak sauce. Everyone seems to agree. Yeah, Wurf is like, we're not the fucking pre-enlightenment French nobility here. Give me a break.

So yeah, there's kind of two parallel storylines. One is KLR trying to get Wurf to accept that Alexander, his son, and the parallel draw on this is that K-Lars, like culturally Jewish, but Wurf, like keeps kosher, you know? Ha-ha-ha. Like, he's like, I don't want to, like, you know, just showing up for the high holidays

will not suffice. Like, if we're gonna be mates, like, we gotta do it right. And she's like, obviously I love my heritage and what not. But like all of the little rituals, not so much for me. Like, too heavy of a lift, given my fast moving lifestyle, as an ambassador to the Klingon home world. Yeah. And Kim Peck, pre-departure is like the co-worker who has a big project coming up and needs to unload it

on someone else before he goes on vacation. Yeah, very nice. Kim Peck's like, we got this big meeting coming up. I sort of have a ton of shit to do, but I can't do it. So it falls on you, JLP. Can you help a brother out while I have my out of office on? Yeah.

Kempik is gonna be unable to read a respond to your email because I am dead. I'll be dead for the next indefinite number of weeks with limited access to email. If this is an emergency, you can send an email to jailpayatfeteration.biz. To have some back and forth, and eventually Picard is like, all right, fine, I'll be this arbiter. And the two Klingons that show up to Vi for the chancellorship, which I guess is like a fight to the death type situation, right?

It seems that serious. Yeah, so one of them is Gauron, the Klingon that makes Wurf eyes even better than Wurf. And the other is Duras, the slimy dickweed that tried to have Picard killed and is behind the whole discomendation shit that happened several episodes ago. Picard is so neutral about both of these cats that it seems like he doesn't even remember that Duras tried to murder him. Yeah. Like it's never brought up. They do a lot of kind of filling in for a viewer that maybe maybe didn't see that episode. Which they do a great job of. Like there's a lot of exposition that they felt the need to get through,

but it doesn't feel exposition either way, it sometimes does. And so you're totally caught up on the broad strokes of how Warf got this combination. But yeah, they definitely omit the part where Picard went walking through the barrio and a couple of bad ombre's tried to poke knives in him. Yeah, but given the years that Picard has had,

like I sort of get why that's not top of mind for him as far as all the terrible shit that's happened to him later. I don't know, he recently had had a cling on knife inside him. So I feel like he might be like, oh, avoid having that happen once again. There's a couple, I mean, there's a, at this point in the episode, all of these storylines play out pretty much in parallel. Yeah. But I want to go back a little bit to Riker as director

because there are a few scenes, especially in the remastered version, that are just more soft focus than the show typically gets. And I wanted to chat you up just a little bit about this. Like the idea of a green director with a veteran DP, like that relationship and the trust between the two is super critical to preventing shit like this from happening.

And it makes me wonder if Frakes is like, check the gate and the DP is like, yeah, we're good. Like, fine, let's move on. Like if being a second time show director for him allowed the production to be a little looser than it would have been. I don't know. Do you have specific shots that you didn't like or?

There was a shot of Galron when they were doing the Patachlan group in the conference room where it was just a regular single, just like a cowboy single, and it was like very out of focus. It wasn't even back focused or anything. It was just wrong. And it made me wonder, what's up with that, Frakes? I don't know, this is something that I feel like HD has really fucked up for television production,

because there are shots in this show where like two characters will be on screen and one will be much closer to camera. And it's clear that they've stopped down a lot so that they're both like acceptably in focus, but not, you know. But neither of them are sharp. Neither of them is within the circle of confusion.

And so, like... That's my favorite Phil Collins song. But... But like, I think in SD, that probably comes out to looking like two in-focus characters. Yeah. In a motion picture, they would maybe do like a split diopter,

some kind of camera trick to put them both in focus, or just rack. But, you know, television is a very different pace of production and they really have to like jam through stuff. And I think that, especially with extras, like they probably don't have the dough or the time to go back and re-shoot if something is a little bit kicked focus-wise.

Yeah. And I noticed it like once every like three or four episodes in this show that a shot is not crisp the way I'm sure it looked, but it was like crisp enough for standard definition broadcast television. Yeah, and when they're looking at it on monitors, at the time are those are SD monitors, right? Yeah, and when they're looking at it on monitors, at the time, are those are SD monitors, right? Yeah. Yeah. Like we're watching it better than the crew was able to

watch it, right? Which is kind of an incredible thought. Yeah. I mean, whoever's looking through the IPs on the Panavision or whatever is probably getting a nice crispy, crispy view, but that's, you know, IP is not the way the director intends you to view the final product. So. One other thing I wanted to bring up along these same lines is that they shoot every Alexander scene super wide. Did you notice that? Heed!

Move! I think they ad-yard everything that he said. He delivers a lot of dialogue with his head turned, too. So maybe they didn't have his dialogue written like they liked, or maybe the actor's delivery wasn't up to snuff, so they looped him later on. But that's probably what it really is. I just interpreted that as they really wanted to show how different he is in size to wharf because he like really he doesn't even come up to wharf to waste.

He is like a little little kid. Yeah, he's like toddler height. Yeah, yeah, absolutely. He's a he's a shorty. Yeah. So they convene this, this every all of the all of the Klingons are like real eager to get this shit sorted out and and get the party started W slash R slash T one of them killing the other one

And they're just you're invited To the murder of my political rival. Yeah, they went on a paperless post and they found a nice, a nice free template and sent it out. Where, the conference room on the enterprise, when between three and six o'clock? Two JLP at Federation Duckbiz. Yeah. Yeah. So part of the first part of the ceremony

is everybody is apparently going need to satisfy themselves that Kimpec is in fact dead so they gather on the on the battle cruiser and K.L.R Hands Picard a Hentai Dildo and they all take turns stabbing Kimpec with it. I'm doing a game too. Make sure he doesn't...

...mone or wake up or whatever. Is he dead? I don't know. Let's stab him. Yeah, and so, like then they're arguing about like what happens next in the ceremony when the least exciting explosion in television history happens. It felt like a CSI explosion. Like everything is blocked toward this empty space. Yeah.

In the room. And they immediately go super slow-mo as soon as the explosion happens. Yeah. It's very intense. Yeah, it's one of those like there's a cut to flash and then just a bunch of guys like doing forward summer salts through the air. Yeah, yeah. That always looks great when clean-ons are going flying because they have a little bit hair

and crap hanging off their bodies. Letters. Yeah, that always looks great when klingons are going flying because they have a little bit hair and crap hanging off them their bodies Spikes on their toes. Yeah, I'm sure they had to do signs and waivers like if a toe spike goes through your sternum you will hold harmless paramount pictures and You know the big rod Corporation DBA big rod corporation. DBA, big rod. Yeah. It becomes clear pretty quickly that the explosive is on a Romulan design and not only that it was like a real small one so it's kind of

going to be hard to figure out who brought it onboard the ship and so they hold this meeting and the whole time Wurf has been kind of steering clear of the action because of his discomendation. And like anytime he's like gets caught on the view screen, somebody will yell some guttural insult at him that involves a lot of flim. And Picard is finally like, all right, you're gonna come into the ceremony and like break down this whole, like the results of our investigation about the explosive.

And Wurf is like once again, like totally freaked out. Really doesn't want to do it. And Picard is like, dude, you're the chief of security. Like if you want to keep bowing out of this shit, you can maybe not be an officer on my ship anymore. But if you want to be an officer, like you got to be an officer, you've got to serve your function whether or not it's uncomfortable from a cultural standpoint.

So. The version of this that you might recognize is like the pharmacist who doesn't want to sell birth control. Right. Warf its your job to escort people around the ship and do security type detail, it doesn't matter what your personal feelings are about the specific job you have to do. Yeah, that's a totally great way of thinking about this. So he goes into this meeting and immediately Duras and Gauron are flipping out and acting

like it's this major insult to the process. And, you know, Picard is great at condescending the shit out of a Klingon. Like, he's like, that's really cute, but he's the head of security on this ship, and that's the function he's serving here. He's not here as a Klingon. He's here as an officer of the Federation. And Worf starts going through the results of their findings with this explosive and explains that it was Romulan and Duras is like, what the fuck? We got to get to the bottom of this.

And so he storms out and he goes to his room where one of his lackeys is checking out a laptop and he's like, hey guess what? KLR is looking into your background. I've got her search history up on this laptop. Yeah, she is not in incognito mode. KLR has been like asking wharf why he got this combination, like what that is all about. And she asks, Picard at one point,

Picard's like, I really couldn't possibly say. And that's a snitch. No, yeah, snitches get stitches. And Picard's had plenty of those. He's trying to avoid stitches right now. Yeah. The reason she's digging into it is because she is very interested in warf being involved in this kid's life.

And warfed every turn up until now is like, no, don't tell him I'm his dad. Like, yeah, it's it's suit. He's going to be super ashamed of me. Yeah. There's all this. And she doesn't quite get why that's such a big deal. Yeah, he takes all that stuff super seriously and she doesn't give a flying fuck about it. So when she wants to get some domestic shit set up

between them, and he's like, he loves her, like he wants to do it. But if I do this, then anybody that shares my belief system is going to project all of this shame onto you and onto the kid and any kid the kid has eventually, like this shit sticks in the Klingon Empire. The shame of the father is the shame of the son. And so-

K-lar and Alexander wanna go out for oysters and Worf just can't have it. Right. It's like a story in my wife's family where her grandfather came home from like a work trip and the grandmother had bought some bacon and he found it in the fridge and she like denied it by saying, no, I've been feeding it to the dog. It's like great. Now I can't even kiss the dog.

That's the level of freak out that Warf is on here. So I cannot clean up after the dog anymore. Right, yeah. I just feel like all of the stuff between Warf and Kalar is very like, is very like Tellin' of Vella. And then when Doras comes in until like confront her about the fact that she's checking into his past, it's like full fucking telenovela. Like, yeah, it's a lot of like turning away from the camera and, you know, speaking truths

that cannot be voiced and all this shit. And it's real tense. And it's one of those things where we cut away to a brief scene where the doctor explains to Riker that the explosive was, in fact, inside the body of one of Duraas' men. And then we cut back to Warfare N'Alexander coming home. And K'lar is like piled up in a bloody heap on the floor and there's definitely some evidence that she went through

a glass table. Yeah, no doubt. Like they exchanged some last words and then Warfare has to let the dead know that a half human half warrior is coming. So, uh, so his scream toward the heavens a little, it's a little half-hearted. Do you think we're like only half of her soul winds up in Stovacore? Well, we know her, her teeth don't make it.

Her teeth being the most human part of her. Right, yeah, she shows up and she's like, she looks like a old timer that doesn't have his dentures in. It just drove me crazy how long it took the medical officers to get to her quarters. It was like calling 911 in a bad part of town. Where are they? Wurf has all this time to hold her and put his fingers on her wounds and stuff to try to stop the blood, but it's over and she's dead and they finally arrive, what feels like forever later. Shouldn't they just have site-to-site transport from sick bay to wherever they want to be on the ship? Wouldn't that be nice? I mean, they sort of hinted this in the remember me episode when that old man disappears and then they

decided to search for him by smell basically. Like it feels like the computer should know when someone dies almost immediately. Right. Just based on their position in the ship, their body temperature, and if that were to like disappear, that would be cause for a computer to like automatically sound some sort of alarm. I guess we aren't there yet. Yeah, well the sensors on the ship are not doing the same things that they normally do in this episode. And the scene ends with Worf trying to get Alexander to experience this death in a very clinging on way. And like we've already got the seeds of the relationship between War of An Alexander being that Alexander

is a little bit uneasy about all this clinging on business and War of his very keen on raising Alexander as nothing but clinging on. Which is probably a pretty familiar attention to children of very devout religious orders. Yeah. So they clear out with the body, I guess, and worse. Yeah, they wrap her in a sparkly body bag. North like goes over to his room and he takes off his sash, takes off his communicator

badge, picks up his batlethe. He puts his badge on the table and his 9mm on his captain's desk. It's like, yeah, and he takes out his stash gun, the one that he likes. The ankle holster. The one that he would plant on a body, if he needed to fabricate a justifiable homicide. Yeah, yeah.

It's pretty clear he's going rogue right now. Did you notice what was on the table that he left his communicator on? Are you referring to Spiky Bird? Yeah, the Spiky Bird. It's an unexpected season for re-appearance. That was so much fun to me. Yeah.

Like, Worf has got sort of a shrine of weaponry. He's got a bat left up there. He's got some fun knives. And then like, in a place of prominence, on the mantle is Spiky Bird. Oh, I just, I just re-watched the clip and his communicator badge actually doesn't stay on the table. He tosses it onto and it falls on the floor.

Hahaha. Like when you throw your keys on the nightstand and they just slide behind. I see, I see, I see Freak seeing that happen and go print that one. Print that take. That's the take. That's, that's good old single take. Freak's right there for you.

Yeah. So they're like, man, we got to like talk to Worf about what happened. We just went down here. Uh, where is he? And turns out, not on the ship any longer. And. Do you think it's weird that Worf is never a suspect? Like, he's just acted in a really strange way.

His communicators off, they can't find him. Kalar's dead. Right, he just found out he was a dad. The chief of security should be at the murder scene that just happened on the ship. Yeah, it seems like for even a moment he should be considered a suspect, right? Yeah.

It's got a domestic violence situation written all over it. From an outsider's perspective. Yeah. I guess Alexander was there as a witness. Yeah, but he's like a kid, you know. How firmly can you trust his account of the situation? Not at all. Anyway, he comes on board the ship that Duraz is on and there's a lot of grumbling among

the klingons. Why is that patak here? And Worf explains that KLR was his mate and they're like, Oh shit! And it's on. Like somebody does that thing I love where they take a sword and they've got it in the scabbard and they hold the scabbard out to do us and he just takes the sword. Yeah.

And they have a pretty intense sword fight here where Doris has a saber. He has a pirate sword almost. Yeah. And a... Like a sawdoth sword. Yeah, and Wurf has the batlet. And they're fighting, Wurf gets Duraas on the ground and the

the desbuster club shows up just in time. And you totally think that they're gonna like stun Wurf or like grab him before he does the final blow. But nope, Wurf just fucking killifies Dora's. This is another one of those scenes where I'm like alone watching it and I'm like, surely they're not gonna let him get away with this. No, yeah. Lunches it into his chest and I'm like, oh! It's so mental, right? Like, that, like like data is there.

Data can move very quickly and is much stronger than Worf. Could easily have prevented this and they just stand there and watch with their jaws on the floor as he does a murder. Yeah. It makes me realize that Worf can get away with just about anything. They're kind of an international waters, right?

Like, like you probably have let a legal leeway on another ship. And he wasn't wearing his badge. So he wasn't acting as an official representative of the Starfleet. That is a fair but pretty tenuous point, I think. And it's pretty incorrect. It's pretty crazy that it kind of goes against things that have happened before where,

you know, like with the Ragtag group of Raider Aliens and Yutta, the genetically engineered killer woman, like when that guy dies in the beginning of that episode, they're also like, ah, no big deal. Nobody cares about that guy. And the enterprise is like, no, no, no, we're getting to the bottom of this. We are gonna find out who killed this guy.

And that's like a whole part of that storyline. In this, they're like, oh, one of our guys went over to your ship and killed one of your guys and you don't care that much. Cool, we don't care that much either. Yeah. Real weird. Yeah. This must have been a fun scene for Freaks to direct to. Like, this is a real fight scene with a lot of compound moves and not a lot of cuts. No, yeah. It's a lot for him to do here. Good, good swashbuckling. It's fun to see. Cut. No, yeah.

There's a lot for him to do here. Good swashbuckling. It's fun to see. I think it's the first time we've really seen Warf do like super artsy, artsy, martial art style batleth moves, where he's like swinging it around and showing his kata.

And it's fun to see batleth against not another batleth, but a different weapon. Yeah. Like, as much as I was hoping he would pick up that spiky bird, it was fun to see this fight scene. Yeah, absolutely. Maybe someday we'll see Batleth versus Spiky Bird. If they ever go back to Kodavon or plan it, what are the chances?

You know how they sold off all of the props on this show? I wonder how much spiky bird went for. Oh man, that is in like, David Duke's. Someone out there owns spiky bird. David Duke's man cave has spiky bird. And it's like, yeah, I don't like Star Trek that much, what with all the multiculturalism, but that one episode, I really liked something about it. The watch count on that episode is like an 80.

I put it on because it calms me. It suits me before bed. It's got the full whole first season on VHS and that one tape is just totally worn out. Because it's been rewound and replayed so many times. I am la cutes aboard. You will respond to my questions. I am la cutes aboard. You are bored. It's a little final moment after Picard,

kind of, Picard kind of scolds Wurfens as like, you know, the demands of your society should not come before your responsibilities on this ship. And if you need them to, you need to not be on this crew. Yeah, we get a lot of people from a lot of planets on this ship that don't seem to have a problem giving out birth control, warmth. Maybe you should come correct and just decide to be a 100%

Federation-affiliated officer from now on. What do you say? Yeah, and Warf, Warf, he's into that, you know? But he is going to get a little note. He's going to get like the Federation equivalent of a right up. Look, Warf, we're going gonna stick you on an improvement plan. We're gonna have weekly meetings to talk about. You're right. That's the line. Yeah. Gross. Yeah.

The little button on the episode is Wurf having a real intense scene with the little Alexander where he comes clean to Alexander about a lot of things. comes clean to Alexander about a lot of things. And probably the most intense is Alexander asks or fifth, uh, he's his father. And he says, I am your father. And Alexander goes, no, that's not true. That's impossible. The best part for me was getting to watch you do that. Or if as a couple of follow-up questions for Alexander, he's like,

so you're going to go live with my parents in Russia. Just want to see how you like borched. Is that a yes or no? Yeah. What's your feelings with Gerard to parogies? W-sla-t parogie. I just want to take your temperature on oppression. Yeah, that's the button. The button, like it's oddly, it's a weird mix of hopeful

in the wharf cops to be in the dad. Alexander seems satisfied by this. Wharf also breaks the news that like, yeah, I'm your dad, but you can't live with me. See ya. Yeah. Like, how are we supposed to feel about this? Warf also breaks the news that like yeah I'm your dad but you can't live with me see uh yeah like how are we supposed to feel about this

I don't know man I think that's a uh unfortunately like I don't I don't think we're supposed to think of Warf as black but uh unfortunately a a stereotype that I don't think that 1990s TV shows were afraid to reinforce. And this one specifically. Yeah, and I did feel a type of way about that. Like, it's like, it's a pretty like advanced kind of racism, where most of the time the racism in this show seems more like stepping on a rake.

And this is like, Black Dude dies at the beginning. I'll put it that way. Yeah, I was sad that Kalar got killed. Yeah, man. Really liked her. She's a good character. I don't feel like to serve the story in the episode, they even needed to do that.

Like, I guess if you're forcing Wurf to cop to being the dad, that is a way to do it. Right. But I think she gives so much more value to the show in other ways that that that to me didn't seem worth the sacrifice of losing her as a recurring character because she was just a great foil for Wurf. Yeah. She's super fun like her. I don't know. I just I'm truly gonna miss her in a lot of ways. I think I think she's just fun to'm truly going to miss her in a lot of ways. I think I think she's just fun to have around and to know that that's it.

As a performer, she is definitely the equal of anybody that they put her on the screen with and really like takes up her part of the frame, you know, for all of the like extras that we get on this show, that's not all these the case, you know. Yeah. She does a thing though in this episode that I don't recall from her first appearance and Ben you might just want to take off your your phones for this because like I think I'm about to ruin her for a lot of people but she does she has that voice effect where she is very self-aware that what she's saying is meddling the person she's talking to, and it's very an poultry to me.

I closed my eyes in the middle of this episode to see if it was true, like, oh man, she sort of sounds like an poultry to me, and then I closed my eyes and I'm like, oh god, it's not going away like it's really it really sounds like her no that's not true that's impossible yeah sorry Ben did you like this episode this episode of Bill Mar Did you like this episode? This episode of Bill Mar. Yeah. I did. I think this is a fun episode.

Always fun to dip your toe into the Klingoniverse and Gauron is a fun character. As good of a villain as Duraz is, like him being out of the way, makes way for the rest of the Durass family to come into play, which... The rest of House Durass? Yeah, which is exciting. Yeah.

And Gauron has those crazy eyes, which I love looking at. Just get lost in those crazy eyes, Ben. Those are some terrifying bedroom eyes, aren't they? They really are. Yeah, I wouldn't, I would not want to be, I would want to keep the lights on for that one. Yeah, or close your own eyes. Right. Yeah, I mean, so you're, so your, your, your attack is to be swept away and just kind of ignore it, but I want to make sure he's not up to anything. Yeah. And that's responsible, especially if you don't know someone very well.

Yeah, you like this one? I do, I do in spite of not being completely satisfied at its conclusion, like this was another canned kicker episode, like we're kicking this Klingon can down the road on the storyline. So we resolve and end some characters. The story itself moves on. Yeah, I liked it. Cool.

Good app. Why don't we check the subspace radio? What do you say about that? Yeah, I had taken off my communicator and set it aside, so I wasn't aware that we were getting one of those messages, so let's go ahead and do that. Priority 1 message from Starfleet coming in on Secured Channel. Need a supplement only. A supplement?

A supplement. A supplement. Yes, extra. The interest alone could be enough to buy this ship. Our first priority one message is a personal message, Ben, and it is to us. What? Much like the Borgs when they hailed Picard directly. Yeah. This one is going straight to us.

Is that a loud? Begins like this. Adam and Ben, I love the show. I even traded a few scarves for a West Hot T-shirt and sold my natural yager to buy these 2p1 messages. Oh, knowing what we know about the yager market right now, I hope he made a thousand dollars off of that deal. Yeah. Alright. He continues. But please stop wasting vetoes. To give each episode the loving reviews they all deserve and still retain the riveting Vito drama.

And then this message is cut off. Right. It cuts off in the middle. Something wrong with the subspace transponder. Our second P1 message is also from Michael Durst. There he is. And now the conclusion. Oh, I like that.

Maybe the vetoing host provide 10 random audio clips, which the non-vitoing host must incorporate into a solo hosted review of the vetoed episode. For even more suspense, maybe the host with the most impressions slash inside jokes last season gets an extra veto in the new season. Keep up the great work and thanks for the fun. So the second part of the message almost sounds like he's giving us ideas for how to continue to the veto. Yeah, and also like, here's my idea, guys.

I'd like to give you a ton more work to do. That's not nice. Well, he took pay us to do something, so. Yeah, that's true. That takes a little bit of the sting off of it. As we mentioned constantly, we don't pre-plan how we deploy the vetoes. It's just so happens that we've shot them at each other every time.

I think the last round of Vito, counter Vito really pissed a couple of people off though. Yeah. Because I think both because remember me is kind of a beloved episode and also it's now four times in a row. And I think people are starting to suspect that we're not being entirely honest about the Vitas, but we are. I don't know what would give them that idea and if this were pre-planned I would have no problem telling everyone that we pre-plan them. Yeah, that's not the case. Yeah, so thank you for the delicious delicious money Michael Unfortunately, I think your suggestion is too confusing and also

We're too committed to our ridiculous way of doing things around here. I like how Michael's first idea is to kick one of us off the show here. I like how Michael's first idea is to kick one of us off the show. Well if you would like to send us a jumbo-tron message or anybody else a jumbo-tron message, you can go to maximumfund.org slash jumbo-tron. It is $100 for a personal message or $200 for a commercial message or $200 for two personal messages. That's this guy discovered. That's like the funniest part of this. How much it cost. I think there was a way to write this message in one message. Yeah, I think he hoisted himself on his own petard. But yeah, it is a great way to support the show and we really appreciate it. Hey Ben! Adam, what's that?

Did you find yourself a drunk shmoda? Drunk shmoda! I did. It's another one where I'm going to give you some time code. So if you go to time code 24 minutes and 23 seconds, there's a scene where Gauron and Duras are about to go to Fistacuffs in the Patachlan group. And it's a scene where like Gauron, like he like reaches behind him and punches

one of the security guys and then goes for Duras and the other security guy gets in between them. But as he gets in between them, it is clear that they did not explain to this extra how a phaser is held or triggered because his finger is nowhere near the trigger button on the phaser. And I just thought it was like, you know, be like, if he was holding a gun by the barrel, you know, like not so fast, pub.

They're like, do you even know what you're holding, dude? That guy has got some real low-rent chanting Tatum vibes too. My name is, yeah. So he got my, uh, my Shremota for, for biffing it up in that scene. Uh, not specifically a Yager reference. Oh, no, no, no biffing it in the, uh, in the, like,

falling off the skateboard sense of the term. Okay. I just wanted to be sure. Yeah. How about yourself? Do you have a drunk Shremota? Durass and his, and his valet have just discovered in the scene that Kalar has been has been doing some Google searches right on on worse warf genealogy

and they do they do the dumbest distract the security officer move that you could possibly get. They're like, what we need is a distraction. And so, so Durrass's bud goes out there and he's like, hey, look over there! And then they go walking out of frame. And then Durrass just walks the other way. That security officer is like the dopiest We have really bad security in this episode and I think we've both select made selections that underscore that feeling he's just Like your security officer looks like Jeff from security

And mine looks like looks like Chad, you know, Yeah, Jeff and Chad, or not doing, Warf is not setting a great example for Jeff and Chad. Not at all. And I think if anyone needs to get pipped, it's probably Jeff and Chad after this one. It's not a punishment, you guys. We just want to have a few more meetings with you. It's clear that we didn't train you sufficiently on how to use your deskbuster. And that's on us. It's really our fault.

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