The Greatest Generation - The Red Hammer Diaries (DS9 S3E22)

Episode Date: January 21, 2019

When a bend-at-the-waist hug, leads to a father/son sailing trip, the Sisko men get to cranking. But when the adventure threatens to provoke a diplomatic incident, they’ll have to keep their new hobby in a bottle. Why is Dax cock-blocking Bashir? What’s a super comfy long-term sleeping solution? Can Chief O’Brien get “I love you, man” drunk? Romulan scientists are so vain, they probably think this discovery’s about them. Follow The Game of Buttholes: The Will of the Prophets! Support the production of The Greatest Generation.

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Deep Space 9. Welcome to the greatest generation Deep Space 9. It's a Star Trek podcast by a couple of guys who are a little bit embarrassed to have a Star Trek podcast. I'm dry and my name is Ben Harrison. I'm uh... I'm wet and I'm Adam Pranica. What is that in... What is that in reference to? To the story you said before we turned on the microphones about how you were mad at me

because you were getting rained on in Seattle and checking the weather in LA where it's 70 degrees most of the time. Wow, so I guessed right with what I needed to say in that moment. 50% chance of getting it and I got it. Yeah, you did good. Yeah, it's been piss raining in Seattle,

and it hasn't been great. The sort of rain that's kept me inside for days at a time, and that's not good for my mental health. No, you gotta close rings, man, in order to maintain. I've had a good start to the year as far as waking up early every morning and meditating and going to the gym,

I'm doing that stuff, but I'm not going for walks. Because my dog can't walk, that's part of it. Right. And I feel low-key bad about walking by myself and leaving him at home. And so I kind of feel like a like a walk-marter, right? The reason you feel bad is that you set up like a facetime between you and him and you maintain eye contact with him the entire time you're walking.

And that's just prudent. Yeah, that's not nice. Ben, something happened to me last night. That was pretty harrowing that I would like to share with you. And I thought maybe in exchange you could share a story right back. This may be the beginning of a new segment. This may be the only one of its kind. But I kind of want to give you a Jazz Horse update.

Tell me you love Jazz. Horse, Earth Horse. Okay, boys. Saddle up. Jazz Horse Update. It's okay, girl, just a scratch. We may never do this again, but something significant happened last night, and I'm still not over it. Yeah, I mean, I think that... I do want to do this segment, and I do want it to be a regular segment, but I do suspect that a lot of people are getting angry at us about talking about Jazz Horses so much.

So I'll keep my story short. Should we say what Jazz horse is? Jazz horse is red dead redemption too. Yeah. That's all it is. That's all it is. So, I'm riding my horse. I'm riding genuine.

Out. Out in the, like, out in the boonies, right? This is an area I haven't explored yet I've been I've been uh a little weird about how I open up my map explore you're trying to you're trying to uh make the fog of war describe a dick yeah some riding around and I and I cross a river and any any player of Oregon trail knows you need to be really careful crossing these rivers, but I launched on through a river and then got to the other side and the other

side had like a little rocky outcrop that it looked like you could ride up. So I gallop full speed through the river and then I'm on the other side and I make a hard right to get up this hill. And my horse does not like this movement. The horse and me miss the turn and then end up running straight up the mountain. And that ends up flipping me ass over teakettle. It ends up flipping genuine ass over horse teakettle and genuine's in the water bin and And genuine's been been knocked out and just as I have been knocked out I do I don't die But by the time I come to bin RSVP genuine Genuine has drowned in spite of my best efforts like I tried it

I tried to get on him in the water. I can't get on him I tried to lassow him out of the water oh no leave it was I was so distraught over this it was like the death of our tax in the swamp of sadness like I kept on wanting to pull him out but he doesn't want to come out it was really awful so then so then I had to grab my saddle and walk 45 minutes to the closest table, which is like the shittiest punishment. I get attacked by two panthers on my way. Like, whoa, I arrive at my stable, like covered in blood carrying carrying my My my saddle

It was not a good night of jazz horse for me band, but I ended up getting a new horse He is a he is a war horse. Are you familiar with the war horse and what they look like? So they have like bigger feet. Oh Lordy band that horse is thick Yeah, the horse is thick. Yeah, that's a horse that I got at the beginning of the game. And I have dabbled, I've experimented with the idea of buying a new horse, but so far, Tractore has survived. And I have, it has caught my breath a couple of times

when attempting to board a moving train or something and Tractore takes some damage. when you know attempting to board a moving train or something and tractor takes some damage, but fortunately she's been through it with me through thick and thin. Good buddy of mine ended up killing his horse very early on in the game attempting a train boarding. And it was so early that he didn't have anything close to the amount of money of getting another horse and he was so unskilled in any other way that he had to walk around for a long time.

Oh man. Yeah. Kind of changed the game on him. That'll show you. I've never jumped to a train. It seems scary. Yeah, it's a little scary. You gotta you gotta ride pretty fast alongside it Then you hit square bit horsey thick it handled that no problem. I think about horsey thick is He's like a fucking tank like he can go straight up mountains. He can go He can go more vertical than my old horse ever could He doesn't get tired. Wow. He takes great big shit spin. Like the kind that could dam a river. It didn't really run me over when I saw a dog take a poop.

I haven't seen that yet. Yeah, I was just walking around to town and a dog was doing one. Don't you and me see enough dogs taking poops? I was telling my wife last night like We we do shifts with our dog taking taking him outside and he's got to be on a leash He's got to be on a leash, you know post surgery walking around in our backyard So I get I get the late night just before bid action and it occurred to me that

That like I've got to use my my phone flashlight to see where he's dropping these shits in the grass because you can lose them pretty easily and I was just thinking about if my camera had somehow been tied to the flash function on my phone to the light function of my phone. At this entire time, how many pictures of dog shit would be there? Yeah. Kind of a lot. Probably 50 pictures of dog shit, Ben. Yeah, that would be, you know, when the FBI finally cracked the

four-digit code on your phone. They would be like, oh my god, he's much sicker than we could ever have even imagined. What at the worst have ever seen? Lock him up for life. Well, and I'm really sorry for your loss. Thank you, Ben. It gives me some comfort to hear that. Jazz horse at its best is very chill. And it sounds like this was a non-chill evening with Jazz horse.

I'm trying to make a new start with a new horse. Yeah, I think you can do it, but you know, allow the morning process to take its course, you know, get much of these things. That's good advice. Watch like you can't rush back to a stable when you've lost your horse. That saddle's pretty heavy, you can't run very long.

It's like 45 minutes minimum. That's what I get for exploring unknown territory bin. Yeah. Much like two of the characters on Deep Space 9 do in season 3 episode 22 explores. Do you realize how incredible this is? No, of course you don't. Speaking of exploration, Ben, we have discovered a brand new character in our cold open. We sure have. And she has got a great big cough. A set of coughs even. Yeah. It's never just one. Now. Now. Dr. Bersier is doing a little

bit of he's doing something that I sort of aspire to being able to do, which is take some work down to the local pub and have a drink while you finish your work day It's kind of blending happy hour with the end of the day, which holds some appeal to me Yeah, you know there there are hazards to this which is that you encounter You know a potential romantic interest while you're still going over the numbers or whatever. And that's what happens to be sheer here. And I mean, she's just as romantically interested in him as he is in her.

Oh, dear. How long have you had that call? She's looking for a field diagnosis, Ben. Yeah. And I'm surprised he didn't put his ear against her chest to listen for this, because based on how she's acting, I kind of got the feeling that that's what she was hoping he would do. There is, if you follow their eye line and especially the shears eye line like she's standing and he's sitting for Maybe half of the scene before standing again

But his eye line never wavers from her face and It's so chased in that way It made me wonder if they did a couple of takes where he is Distracted by right by the decalatage. She's got beautiful hands, beautiful decalatage. Yeah, I mean, I also liked the way his performance goes from kind of like stunned surprise that anyone is expressing interest in him at all into being kind of smooth and debonair with her. You know, we've seen a lot of him engaging in what I would call romantic mishaps. And this actually seems like it's head and somewhere.

I kind of wonder why this doesn't happen more often. I feel like Dr. Bashir is a pretty good looking dude, probably in the upper 20% in the looks department, I would say, on the station. Yeah, yeah, he's on the 80th percentile. Yeah. And, you know, he's like, he's smart and he's got a good gig. He's no longer leterous. He's probably not getting sent into super dangerous scenarios all the time, which is a calculus you'd have to do with another officer probably.

Yeah. He's got a stable lifestyle. I feel like there's a lot of appeal with that. He gets interrupted by DAX, who is kind of fucking with him. Yeah. DAX has that thing where she can kind of seem naive or like she's kind of missing cues. It's never the case, right? Like she's playing romance chess to his romance checkers. If they're friends, why is she doing this to him?

Because so much fun. Yeah, it's the fun factor, isn't it? I mean, like, uh, leaders of a very fetching young lady. So getting to getting to blow Bashir's chance was with someone like her just seems like good sport for somebody who's lived seven lifetimes, right? Yeah, it's a sport fuck with. seven lifetimes, right? Yeah, it's a sport fuck with. But Dax is delivering information to be sure that the Lexington is putting in and,

you know, despite his past iPad that says GTFO, she actually does distract him away from young Lita who does not make another appearance in the episode after this. young Lita who does not make another appearance in the episode after this. This connects to Dr. Bashir's origin story and it's an origin story totally focused on a pre-ganglionic fiber being confused with the post-ganglionic nerve. Like that is the thing that makes Dr. Bashir who he is. And that mistake is what caused the valedictorian of his medical school to be the celebrated doctor she is and what has made Dr. Bashir the chief medical officer on deep space nine.

Like, it's a fork in his career road. It changed everything for him. And this, and Dr. Lens represents that fork. She's the, she's the CMO of the Lexington, which is due at the station shortly. And that forces him into a very introspective mode. It makes him nervous because he's not articulating it, but he knows he has to see her and talk to her about this. Like there is no, there is no just casual awareness of someone being in the same place at the same time.

Like something has to happen and he knows that. This is a small town. Yeah, man. Do you think that the writer that first wrote down the phrase pre-ganglionic fiber comma post-ganglionic nerve gets like a thousand dollar check every time they use that construction in an episode? It's a real don't you see, huh?

I mean, like, I just wonder what the rules are. Because I know that like, there are a lot of times where like a, you know, they bring a character back, but they have to give the character a different name, even if it's the same actor, because they don't wanna pay a writer for creating that character. Right.

There's a piece of trivia in the Sarlac mouth episode where when Sarlac mouth calls Dr. Bashir out on that mistake, he mentions that there's no way any medical professional could confuse the two. That's actually true. That's the reason that Sarlach Mouth said that was because those in the medical community know that it's like confusing a hair follicle with a foot. Like, there's just no way anyone could confuse those two things. So those are real things. They are real things and they are uncomfortable. Wow. The next scene is Jake Sisko at home cramming an iPad under him, under his butt when his dad gets home. In a, you know, in a concealment of the

computer that I'm sure most teenage boys have experienced at one time or another. And I would have loved to focus on that, except for we've got to talk about beard, Adam. Yeah, yeah, why don't we? Cisco, drew that beard. That beard's thick. It is thick. It's thicker than I remember.

Yeah, I, you know, a lot of people talk about growing the beard as the moment where Deep Space 9 goes from bad to good. I'm curious. I had no idea when it was going to happen. I kind of thought it was soon, but I was maybe guessing that it would be after the season break, which is coming up. Interesting to see that it happens toward the end of season three, but not at the end of season three.

Yeah. And the quality change, I would argue, does not happen this episode. Right. I think that the last two episodes, that two episode arc, was much more a quality change signal than this beard. Right, right. One thing that you don't want to do immediately after hiding your laptop is engage

in some affectionate, non-sexual father-son touching. Yeah. And Cisco comes right in for the hug, and I think. That's that hug where you bend at the waist to put a little distance between the groin and the... Yeah, if I'm Jake, I probably stay seated. I think that's smart. Jake has the iPad mini,

but Cisco has the big one, the Pro. Yeah. It comes in and shows Jake a blueprint on the screen for a Bedurin space sailing ship uses solar sails to sail around the solar system. And there are legends that the Bajorins figured out how to visit Cardassia 800 years ago. And this is compared to being contemporary

with humans taking to the seas. Like the Bajurans figured out interstellar space travel way earlier, or at least that's the legend. It's not necessarily supported by the archeological record. Nothing says bottle episode like someone engaging in a hobby. And that is, that's the gauntlet that gets thrown down here. The bottle gauntlet is thrown. And it's cool to have a big time and resource consuming hobby on the

brink of war, isn't it? Like I wish they cross cut to the other side of the of the wormhole. And it's just gym, hadar guys training and sharpening things and like and like mid mid middle working montage versus just putting the ship together they also are showing the Jim Hadar. Yeah like building their ships and they're just loaded up with guns sharpening blades and jacking themselves up on that Petrocell white. Yeah, like, I don't know, Ben kind of seems like he got some other shit to do. Not only that, but like it's fine to have a hobby during wartime. I think it's probably something that keeps you sane, but Ben Cisco's hobby is taking

him off the station in an unarmed ship that is basically a sitting duck. And not only that, like heading toward a semi-hostile portion of space. And also he's pulling Kira and O'Brien off of, I'm sure, actual work to help him with this. Like, he totally deputizes them to help him get it set up. Yeah, I mean, it's kind of a cool boss move, but it's an irresponsible boss move too. Yeah.

Go to Cartoon. To Cartoon. So, O'Brien. I am Chief Miles Edward O'Brien. This is fucking spectacular. Is very skeptical about the ship's ability to have made this journey and Kira in keeping with her spiritual nature is like, oh yeah, this happened exactly as it was written. Like I can't believe you don't believe this.

It's sort of a spiritual versus scientific argument happening on screen for maybe 10 seconds. That's all we get but But it's good to it's good to get a little dusting of a character moment. Yeah and I like the I like the terminology used like the idea that Chief doesn't think the thing is space worthy. Yeah. We talk about the idea that the Romulans think they've invented everything before everybody else. I love that part. Nice, efficient world building stuff in this scene that I really liked.

Can you recall a time when Romulan scientific vanity was stated or seen in that way? No, I don't think I can. I mean, I think so much of the time they are just the bad guys on the other ship or kind of, you know, we've met so few Romulans and I don't know if we've met many Romulans scientists at all. So it'd be great if that was a more overt character trait, like as soon as Tom Locke decloaks and comes on screen,

facing with Cardi's like, hello Picard, I just decloaked my ship with the cloaking device that my people discovered. And yours didn't. I couldn't help but notice that your ship has no cloaking device. Your people did not invent no cloaking device. Your people did not invent the cloaking device the way mine did.

Also, we invented the cat-basket phaser holster. We invented getting short bangs way before they were in. They're also hipsters. We stuck with vinyl through thick and thin. We cut our own bangs and we aren't even depressed. We don't care that they don't necessarily flatter the shape of our face. BANGS! I GOT BANGS THEM! So Sisko wants to make the ship using the Hey, the... It's so good.

Hey, rats. So Sisko wants to make the ship using the tools of its time, which means like a sawzall and a bunch of hand tools. He refutes O'Brien's proposition of like, why don't you just walk up to a replicator and replicate all these pieces? It'd be great. I mean, speaking of hipsters, this is like, yeah, yeah, no kidding. Seriously, seriously, Cisco is getting back to his artisanal and crafted roots, which

I make fun of, but I like that shit. Yeah. And he wants Jake to go with him. He wants Jake to be in on this project. But, you know, Jake has been taking secret looks at iPads lately. And that's Jake's looking for some home alone time. He's like, is there gonna be Wi-Fi and like privacy on this sailing ship or? God, Jake's tunic in this app.

Looks like it's a sewn from an assortment of grandma's potholders. It is. Really something, Ben. Yeah. I kind of like it though. The Jake collection of tunics is growing, I think. I don't think we've seen this one before.

He's really grown up right before our eyes. I feel like this episode really made me realize how much bigger and more grown up looking he is than when we first met him. It'd be fun if Jake was also sporting a go-to. Oh you too. Dad! I looked at a picture of contemporary Siracloftin. Yeah. Still a very good looking man.

Yep. How the fuck did this guy get away with going from being like 11 years old to being a full-fledged grown-up with never having an awkward period? Great question. Yeah, I don't know. I mean, I kind of imagine his awkward period

predates his time on DS9. Oh, maybe. That's one of a half. I think Maccoly Culkin just hates this guest guts. Yeah, whenever they get together for child actor meetings, it's really awkward. One group that is not super thrilled about Cisco's new hobby is the Cardassian military. We get a FaceTime with Gilducat who is, you know, and like the, this is set up a little bit in that conversation with O'Brien and Kira, but it's, it's pretty clear that this is something that the Cardassians don't want the world to know about.

They don't want people to get the idea that the bejewards were ever more advanced than them. Because I guess it'll just make the occupation look more criminal and awful. Yeah, I mean, I inferred a similar to Romulan technological vanity here in play as well. Yeah. In that same way. But like, I mean, like it's an interesting sensitivity to deal with, right? It's like, I don't know, like the Turkish government doesn't want to admit that the Armenian

genocide happened. Like the, the Cardassians don't want to admit that the Bedurans had like a sophisticated interstellar culture before they were subjugated by the Kardashians and like a public demonstration of the possibility of that has like major diplomatic ramifications. And it doesn't really seem like Cisco gives that much of a fuck about that. In a way that I thought was surprising. Like he's usually pretty sensitive to diplomatic

considerations. And like most things that Goldu-Cott does, like it's kind of a veiled threat here too. In the sense that like he can't guarantee his safety. He does that thing where he's like, you know, it'd be a shame if something happened to you so far away from home on this little rickety ship without any defensive ability. If something goes wrong, Major Kira can have a run about to me within an hour. An hour can be a very long time.

It is a perfect veiled threat and it seems like that is going to be the danger present in this episode. Right. Right. Gelducott is saying like maybe it'll be Mayquees or something. Mayquees? But the implication is definitely that the Kardashians are going to look for a way to make this not ever get out.

Benzisk goes a little bummed because Jake has said he isn't going. The reason seems to be that it is the arrival of a girlfriend. That would prevent this from happening, but the message that Jake Sisko checks is a little bit ambiguous in nature. And so when we learn that Jake has received a communicate from Wellington, New Zealand, that doesn't quite comport with the idea of a visiting girlfriend. And especially doesn't jive with Jake's change of mind and his willingness to go. It's like good news that means Jake can go on the trip.

Right. So we're left to puzzle. And so they they head off. This is I think I think I was speculating about whether a shot in a recent episode was the first CG ship in DS9. This is definitely a CG ship. Right. Unequivocally. And it's the Bejurent sailing ship that Right. Unequivocally, and it's the bejorin sailing ship that the Cisco gentlemen have boarded and are taken out for a spin. And I really like the kind of the design of this thing, like on the interior.

There's a great deal of physicality in how they rig the ship and how they get it going. When they're pulling on a lever, they really like throw their weight into it in a way that you don't always design a set to be able to withstand like a couple hundred pounds of force when somebody pulls on something or whatever. And making the choice to do that really gave this a great sense of tactile realness that you don't get in a lot of Star Trek sets.

Yeah, you know how like sometimes you'll see an actor pick up a coffee mug and it's clear, by the way, they're handling it that the mug is empty. Yeah. You don't get the sense that the mug is empty when they're winding these sales, right? Yeah, they head out from the station and they're going to deploy the sales so they get on either side of the thing and Cisco says crank it with all you've got Jake and Jake says oh I've been working on that and so they crank away and they get these sales unfurled and and they're off and they're Odo. Thanks for bringing me along, guys. Let's catch some of these solar winds. I know I want to embarrass you, Jake, but this isn't the first time I've seen you crank

it. I could be any inanimate object in a room. You know? You know. You wouldn't even know if you were cranking me. I mean, I would never do that to you, but think about it. I thought for a ship without its own propulsion system, the ship's ability to dodge the docking ring and leave was a pretty slick move.

Not quite clear how that worked. I also don't really know that much about solar sales. I wonder if we have any like space physicists in the audience that can tell us whether this is a realistic ratio of sale to ship size. Well, I can tell you that it's not been because I do research and evidently these sales would have had to be miles and miles long in order to affect any sort of propulsion. That's sort of what I pictured, but they're much more proportional to an ocean sailing vessel. Right. Right.

Jake has a look around the interior for the first time, which is not a good time to look around for the first time, I think, when you're going on a trip with your pop he He discovers the zero gravity rations. He discovers the composting toilet He's really he's like no water. This is the great house-shooting deal that you found. Yeah They're gonna be sleeping on on hammocks Which is not a super comfy long-term sleeping solution if you've ever tried it. You wonder what the consideration was when this was zero gravity, because one point that gets made is that the only modification Cisco has made to the design is adding gravity nets in the floor. Yeah, if you've chosen to go with gravity,

I think it's okay to go with a functional toilet. He chose gravity, but chose non-gravity toilet. At least... Maybe the Cisco men don't have the same butt problems that you have had him. I just think you need toilet continuity. You make your toilet match your gravity situation. That makes sense.

If you have to yak in zero G, do you just have to put your mouth on the, on the shop vac toilet? Ooh. Yeah, I mean, I guess. That's gotta be it, right? Maybe there's like a plastic sleeve you can put over it, like one of those electric thermometers you put in your

in your ear. That is so gnarly to think about. I do not want to think about it. Sorry. Ben, similar to the horror of a person brandishing a guitar at a campfire, it turns out Jake wrote a story and now that he has a captive audience he wants his dad to read it. Yeah, yeah He pulls out an iPad in one hand and I gun in the other and says You're gonna read this now dad I can I can only imagine the how ripe all it is Given Jake's interests in the current day given the Prerians that he's displayed in In writing it.

Yeah. So Ben Sisko sits down to read this story. And we cut back to Deep Space. It's all mourn porn. Pfft. Pfft. Hammered the series. The red hammer diaries.

Sisko sits down to read the story story and we cut back to Deep Space 9 and the Lexington, a Dill Soul-class starship, has docked at the station. Bersier is frantically straightening the infirmary up to make it look just so. And Odo comes into kind of taunt him. In a way that I was a little surprised by like since when is Odo the antagonist of Bashir? Especially like you remember when Odo flipped emotional shit at Garrick and Garrick like totally went over the top of him? Yeah. And big dogdom emotionally. I feel like this is the same thing happening here. What does

Odo making fun of bishier's emotions with respect to a woman about? Like give me a fucking break Odo. Where's it coming from? Like what's the point? Yeah. Yeah, I don't know. Like if anything I would expect O'Brien to be doing this, like in a fun way. Yeah, this is an O'Brien moment that they, I feel like Roto Odo in too because they're like, oh fuck, we forgot to have Odo in this episode. Yeah. We've got him in the loaf and everything. Instead O'Brien is the wingman in the bar where they kick it as they watch Dr. Lens from afar and

be sure sort of like gets up the nerve to approach her over the course of time. And then when he sees that Dr. Lens is getting up to leave, he also gets up and sort of like stirries himself for an interaction with her. And she walks by him like he isn't even there. I loved his performance. It's hard to do the kind of subtle reaction to this that Alexander Siddick does, the kind of like series of emotions

washing over his face or like what was that even? And then it's like relief coupled with worry that he still has to close this circle. It's a fun storyline. Like it, it's very endearing of Dr. Bashir. It felt very similar to the approach one often makes of a stranger in a social situation that they want to meet romantically. Even though this is a professional situation, like I don't get the sense at any point that this year wants to interact with her romantically, it's still, it's very pregnant with that kind of stress. Right. And I think other people are kind of fraying it with that, like when Quart comes in and

says, like, oh, you didn't tell me she's also banging. Yeah. We do a fair amount of crosscutting from here between the ship to Deep Space Nine in short order. Because back on the sail ship, Cisco has finished the story and dams it with some faint praise. I think it shows a lot of promise. Ben Cisco is more physically affectionate than he is complimentary affectionate, I would

say. Yeah, we give some kind of like constructive feedback, which is not necessarily the first thing you want to hear when somebody completes reviewing a creative work of yours. But, uh, but Jake is really excited about this story, and also is like to his credit, pretty open to the feedback that his dad gives him. And, man, I really admired the way Jake deals with this scene because he is getting some pretty damning phrase from his dad and is not like he doesn't get bent out of shape about it. And in fact, he pulls a prank on his dad in the midst of this. Like, this goes like, you know, what do you know about the Mayquees and Jake plays this

prank where he like has has him going for a second that he may the Mayquees and Jake plays this prank where he like has him going for a second that he may have Mayquees sympathies or have even joined the Mayquees. Yeah, really, you know, Cal Hudson and I hung out while he was at the station and I really think he had a lot of good ideas. Jake's doing bits. Bits, bits, bits. I love it. Ben, I feel like Sarak Lovden is really great in this episode because it's the degree of

difficulty acting as though you are hopeful that someone you care about is going to have a good opinion about something you've created. Feels very different from act like you're scared that a ship is going to shoot at yours and kill you. And this is what Sir Rockloftin gets to do on the show. He is acting with this kind of this granularity that I really admire. Like he's like I I don't think a lot of people give his character or his stories a lot of credit because they're often you know like relegated to be and see story stuff but he's doing some heavy lifting. He doesn't have huge arcs generally speaking. Yeah, I agree. And this conversation gets cut short when

the ship gets a bang or drop down it. So you know we don't necessarily get to see this come full circle, but that's another testament to how good both of these actors are in this scene is that they turn on a dime and they're doing Star Trek Emergency Pattern in short order in a way that is really fun. Yeah, they're cranking on things with the quickness. And they're ejecting some sales and making some space garbage in the process. One of the sales has gone bad. I couldn't quite get a sense of what happened to it. But they, yeah, they, they're, I guess, some like explosive bolts that they can blow. And the sale gets left in the dust. Much like your horse, jazz horse. It's said to part with it, but

sometimes you just got a deal with loss like that. Yeah. I mean, I'll go back to that river and set up camp there. Think about genuine for a while. Pays a homage. Yeah. I'm a rain, come to a Ford, I'm a rain, come to a Ford, I'm a rain, come to a Ford, I'm a rain, come to a Ford, I'm a rain, come to a Ford, I'm a rain, come to a Ford, I'm a rain, come to a Ford, I'm a rain, come to a Ford, I'm a rain, come to a Ford, I'm a rain, come to a Ford, I'm a rain, come to a Ford, I'm a rain, come to a Ford, I'm a rain, come to a Ford, I'm a rain, come to a Ford, I'm a rain, come to a Ford, I'm a rain, come to a Ford, I'm a rain, come to a Ford, I'm a rain, come to a Ford, I'm a rain, come to a Ford, I'm a rain, come to a Ford, I'm a rain, come to a Ford, I'm a rain, come to a Ford, I'm a rain, come to a Ford, I'm a rain, come to a Ford, I'm a rain, come to a Ford, I'm a rain, come what are you doing now? I'm a rain, come to a Ford, I'm a rain, come to a Ford, I'm a rain, come to a Ford, I'm a

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Would you like to know what that is? Wee bears, I've never even heard of that. Yeah, it's a prop that I think returns a couple of times in deep space nine, but wee bears is the whiskey that Captain Lorca drank with Admiral Bob. No shit. In that episode of Discovery. Nothing like a single malt straight from the motherland.

So it is very canonical Trek whiskey. Wow. I don't know how many people listening to this know who Captain Lorca and Admiral Bob are, but if you want to find out about that, you go listen to our other show, The Greatest Discovery, now in season two. Your company man, Ben. A sheer and obrient or singing drunk, Ben. When was the last time you got singing drunk? I think the problem is that I don't know that many songs.

So I don't really get singing drunk. I might get rapping drunk before I get singing drunk, which is its own problem. You do a karaoke drunk, though, don't you? That's a thing. No, not really a karaoke man. Oh, that's too bad. Scratch that off the list of things we can do together.

I mean, I would watch you. Bashir cannot understand how he got stunted on like that. O'Brien kind of gets it because O'Brien sees how hateable Bashir is because O'Brien hated him at one point. And this is a really fun drunk guy to guy conversation here because O'Brien is drunk guy to guy conversation here because O'Brien is uncomfortable expressing affection for his good, good friend. And instead does like place the negative. He's like, and look at me now, I no longer hate you. I came around a bit. Yeah, and that's one. Remarkable vulnerability expressed by a guy who is super duper drunk. Call of meaning.

This is a Brian's, I love you, man. Yeah. Call of meaning has a great act drunk too because it is not ham and cheese. It's just a little louder, a little slower, but it's not slurry. Neither of them slur really. I thought that Citiks was maybe a bit weaker

than Tomini's drunk. Pretty fun. Yeah, it is really genuinely difficult to be drunk though. And like, it's one of those things where like on set, it doesn't, you can't necessarily tell how it will play. Like I worked on a film one time as a PA doesn't, you can't necessarily tell how it will play. Like I worked on a film one time as a PA and like one of the characters had to be drunk in a scene and I was like, man, did she actually drink for that scene?

Like that was great. And then when I saw the final product, I was like, yee. Oh. It just didn't work for some reason. Like whatever thing makes it translate to film, didn't work for some reason like it whatever Thing makes it translate to film didn't work. Hmm Strange magic. Yeah back on the saleship Cisco and Sun are cranking it pretty hard at this point It's time to bust out the hammocks

Jake Cisco says something here that Really caught my attention. How much time? Yo. That is definitely a bit, right? I can't remember yo ever being set on Star Trek before. But it's like an MC Hammer, big. Yeah. You think? I think it's a little Easter egg.

All right. Jake's in the classical music. Yeah. Like MC Hammer. Ancient Earth Bard. MC Hammer. What they Bard, MC Hammer. What they're talking about is this school in Wellington, New Zealand that has offered Jake

a writing fellowship. And we get a little backstory on how this came about. Jake didn't even apply. Like, Keko took a story that he wrote and sent it to them. Remember Keko, Adam? I'm sorry, who? Is that character that used to appear from time to time on the show,

wife of Chief O'Brien? Right, oh, right, now I remember. Yeah, she's been gone for a long time. Really has. But gets name checked here. And two of his credits, Cisco is pretty proud of Jake. Like, this isn't the episode where Jake says,

I don't want to be in Starfleet, I want to be a writer. It's the episode where Cisco has made peace with that idea and is like actually being pretty supportive of this new ambition of Jake's and talks to him about, like how it was hard for him to go away to school when he first went away and how like that was just on earth where he could use the transporter

to get home every night for dinner. But Jake is going to be truly very far away from deep space nine if he takes this opportunity. That was such a magical depiction of homesickness. Yeah. The idea that you could just beam cross-country anytime you wanted to sleep in your own bed and eat your own food. Sounds like Ben Cisco racked up a lot of sky miles during that first semester at the Academy. Jake kind of wants to stick around because he doesn't want his dad to be alone. It's been a year since he's had a serious lady and the last lady that he was serious with was a ghost woman. Ben. Oh yeah. Remember ghost woman? It's a vague memory. Did Ben Cisco fuck a candle?

I mean, what Jake couldn't possibly know is that Cisco fucked both Dax and Kira like yesterday. Yeah, yeah. That's probably not a story you tell your son when you get home, right? Ben's like, you know, I, I medium enjoyed your story. How'd you like to read this? Talk about cranking it with all you've got. Hot nights in the mirror universe by Ben Sisko. Hot nights dark universe.

Ben Sisko doesn't feel like this is totally necessary, but as there's kind of hashing this out another banger gets dropped on them and sales are ripping off like crazy. It's because they've gone to war. They look outside and they see the star streaks that can only mean that. Yeah, they tell tale warp stripes and that is fairly concerning.

And they, you know, this is not part of the flight plan, but the ship is really rip in now. And so the damage that is being inflicted here is fairly mysterious, right? It's not really something that they can trace to any one thing. And I sort of thought the implication was going to be that they've gone to warp because somebody is taking super long-range shots at them or something, and it's propelled them into warp speed somehow. I mean, it's a bit fiddly because it does kind of up in some of the stuff we know about warp, like that you have to make a warp bubble around a ship, and that's like a non-truvial thing

to do. Yeah, instead the metaphor of sales and sailboats and water travel is carried over into this form of space travel because there's there are these eddies in space made of tachyons and if you were to come into contact with these things the thinking is that you would go faster than light. And so this is something that Ben Cisco explains to Jake but he didn't think tachyon eddies would have any effect on the ship on the sales ship because he's thinking star he's thinking starfleet festival he's not thinking about a ship with big giant solar

sales attached to it. But the ship is fucked and so they have to contact you space nine like is the point like this is this is not seen as a good thing unfortunate. Yeah. And unfortunately when they get out the emergency radio, thing is not working. Yes, someone dropped it in the zero gravity toilet. You really want to do this.

Here, now, okay, okay, let's do it. At Quarks, Bashir is creeping on Dr. Lens again. I guess a, I guess some time has passed or maybe Dr. Bishir has taken some broad brand drinking vitamins and is feeling right as rain. Oh yeah. A friend of Dessono emailed us that he's like personal friends with the guy that invented broad drinking vitamins. Yeah I've been trading emails with that guy now. Oh really? Yeah it seems like a cool guy. Oh that's great. I'm glad I'm thinking vitamins. Yeah, I've been trading emails with that guy now. Oh, really? Yeah, it seems like a cool guy. Oh, that's great.

I'm glad you're in touch. Is it going to send us some free samples? I hope so. You should be a sponsor of the show with how much we've used as product. Yeah, I mean, I think you should just sponsor us and our lifestyle. Hard to agree.

It's like people only do things because they get paid. And that's just really sad. Dr. Lens is really nice. May I? Yes. And they end up having a conversation that goes from two seconds of awkward to sitting at a cocktail table just really enjoying each other's company and sharing notes about New Year's Eve at a party they both went to and about their graduation and

about how it would be stationed on the Lexington as like. Because Dr. Lens loomed so large in Bashir's mind, like he knew exactly who she was, but she had him pointed out to her at a party and maybe misunderstood who the person was pointing at. So assumed that Julian Bashir was an Andorian, which I mean, that's not an Andorian last but she here, no way. But yeah, like she surprised to meet him and frankly, a little jealous of the path his life took because this coveted post she'd got on the Lexington did not wind up being the sexy five-year mission that it was advertised to be. And she had a pretty boring ride for the intervening few years. This felt like an instance where characters are talking about their experiences, but it's also Star Trek talking about itself, because Dr. Lens represents a TNG style of Star Trek,

a TNG style of Star Trek. And Dr. Lens can understand the appeal of what it must be like to do science on deep space nine and not have to go just plan it to plan it, picking up and setting down and picking up and setting down. Her point is that her grass isn't greener than Dr. Bashir's, it's just different grass. And so like he needs to let go of whatever professional envy he might have carried with him up until now. It's a really great scene. And it kind of without making this point kind of laced to bed this whole valedictorian saludatory and conflict also. Like the it was a stressful thing that they both went through, but it obviously doesn't really have, you know, like who cares at this point, right? They're professionals and that's behind them.

There's nothing they can do to change what happened back then. Right. Back in the saleship, the repairs have continued. And Jake is low-key, a little bit paranoid about dying I think. Like he's asking questions about life support and their inability to communicate and he's probably holding a shit in also that he'd really rather really go. He really project yourself on onto everybody. But Commander Cisco is nothing if not great at distracting Jake from space danger. And one of the little threads that we've had in this episode is that Jake wants to set

Cisco up with a freighter captain that he's seen around the station and Cisco kind of engages him on this subject matter to kind of get Jake off of the nightmare that they are currently experiencing. She's a freighter captain. A freighter captain. And that seems like a deal. It looks like we're going to get a Ben Cisco blind date episode at some point in the future if they choose to continue that storyline. And we also get happy news that Jake Sisko

is not going anywhere as a character for at least a year. He says he's gonna put off his fellowship. I guess they offer some kind of deferment for this fellowship. So he wants to get more life experience aboard the station before he heads to Earth and pursues his education. Ben's like, cool, cause you're writing need some work. Ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha That blows in another facetime and this time it's from one of three battleships that the

Cardassians have deployed to meet this sailing ship as it enters Cardassian space. And it's not to attack them at all that they've been deployed, but in fact to roll out the red carpet, the Cardassians are doing the right thing. I want it to be the first one to congratulate you. I guess. I mean, I'm going to save my feelings on the scene for the did you like portion of the ep, but the button on the episode is a celebration of their arrival because Jake and Ben, like part of the problem with their inability to communicate is they also don't really know

where they are And so it's it's do cut that is hip to hip them to the idea that they've they've jumped the denarius bill They didn't even like that wasn't even an issue and they're in the cardacian system and Jake restates the problem and the solution a couple of times in case the viewer wasn't aware of how this happened, which is helpful. And GolduCats like, yeah, so you're arrival here kind of coincides with our archaeologist digging up one of these ships off of the surface of Cardiacio. So everything is sort of meeting up at exactly the same time.

Good job. Cue the fire like chef. Wow, what an what a interesting coincidence. Yeah. Yeah. And that's it. I guess the cardacians are going to tow them back to deep space nine. That'd be nice. So I did this episode grow the beard or did it grow the board? I really like the episode up until the fire fireworks show. Ben, you can have the Kardashians celebrate this. You can't. The way this episode should have ended is the defiant goes and picks up the saleship, returns her home to deep space nine,

they shoot the fireworks off of deep space nine. This is so not in keeping with Cardassian culture, how they feel about the Federation, how they feel about Bajoran culture. Yeah, it's the it's the frog given the scorpion trip across the river on its back. Yeah, yeah. And then the scorpion doesn't sting it. It's like, thanks a lot for the ride, bro. And then the frog like shoots't sting it. And it's like, thanks a lot for the ride, bro. And then the frog shoots fireworks when they reach the other side of the river. That doesn't happen.

I think we've angled that metaphor. But it doesn't feel like it was true to the cardassian way of thinking. And look, I'm not asking for a gold to cut to be a huge dick about this. But he doesn't have to go all the way good and celebratory the way he does here. And that was my main beef with the app.

I thought the app was fun and cool and interesting for all of the reasons that you especially mentioned earlier, that saleship is great. I think it's one of the great builds that they've done on this show. Yeah, really fun. And this episode also introduces a lot of things that I think are going to be going concerns later, like a Benzisco relationship, like a Jake Sisko writer sort of storyline. Like, this is, it's nice to have a bottle episode again. It's Return of the Bottle. And I don't feel like we've had one of these in a while deep space nine doesn't do many bottles anymore

I think yeah, what about you? I think I like it more than you do and One thing you bring up a lot is the idea of like album song order and I wonder if this episode punches a little harder if it's a little earlier in the season. Yeah. If this had happened like right before all this stuff with an anobrantane. Yeah. Because this isn't in character for Cardassians, but we have spent a lot of time this season on the idea of the diplomatic relations between the Federation and Bay Jorah and Cardassia improving. And if this seemed like another step on that journey, I think that would have given an interesting false sense of safety before shit really pops off with, you know, secret war fleets

and the making secret packs with the Romulans and stuff. And it would have represented something to grieve. And by that, I mean, like a way of life. If we got an episode like this before the dieias cast, then I think what you would think during that is like, well, the party's over. Like, no time for hobbies. Like, we are a war-fighting federation now that is gearing up. And what it does is it makes those two episodes insignificant. Right.

Because if you can just get back to building models after something like that, then what was its true cost? Yeah, and I wonder if anything is said in this episode that makes it like not like if you could have like kind of a a fan order of the season. Yeah. Like could this just be like episode 15 and not episode 22? Yeah, you can put the bottles anywhere. Yeah. So I think that if I'm allowed that concession, I really like the episode. I think that it is primarily undercut by its proximity to those other stories. But on balance, I thought it was good and fun episode.

And a nice character change for Cisco that he's not still harboring this ambition for his son that his son doesn't share. Well, it is unorthodox, Ben, but I'll allow it. Adam, in this episode, Jakeakesisco receives some delightful communications. Do you want to see if we have any delightful communications in our inbox? Absolutely. Pryority one message from Starfleet coming in on Secured Channel.

Need a supplement on it. supplement on it? supplement. supplement. Yeah, it's extra. The interest alone could be enough to buy this ship. Adam, we have a personal priority on message here. It's from Matt, Clark, and George, and it's for Lucas.

And it goes like this. Happy, probably belated 30th birthday, Lucas. Welcome to your twilight years. Our only hope is that in your advanced age, you don't turn from the young hip-shatner we know you to be into crusty old-shatner who yells about snowflakes on Twitter. Glory to you and your house! I was meant to be targeted for as close as possible to November 16th, so sorry Lucas, for how long it took us to get to that. Lucas now 30 and a half?

Yeah. So maybe even closer to yelling about snowflakes on Twitter. But a little bit of Shadner shade in that message. Shadner's not great on Twitter. He was a real dick to some friends of mine on Twitter, because he didn't think that they deserved to be verified on Twitter. No. He was a real dick to some friends of mine on Twitter, because he didn't think that they deserve to be verified on Twitter. Really?

Because he didn't personally know who they were. Wow. Yeah. And like, he blocked a whole bunch of people, I know, because he felt it was unjust that they were verified like a cheapened his own being verified old man yells at verified cloud Yeah, yeah, so you know, I don't think he didn't deserve that shade You know, he's touring wrath of con this year. It's a pretty good idea. Yeah, it's a good thing that

We're done touring wrath of con right? Yeah, he's over Harding is over. Ben, we have a second priority when message here. It is from Ben. It is for Emily Fitz, the most gorgeous woman in the world. A message goes like this. Happy anniversary baby girl. These last two years have been the best in my life.

I'm so happy to see you publishing your books and chasing your dreams. The only things I can guarantee are that I will always love you and that tonight the heavens will know that a warrior is coming. Whoa. Very suggestive, Ben. Ben really believes very strongly that one thing will result from this P1 Speaking of the ribald written word Ben's writing a a red shoe jumbo tron diary Pretty nice. Well, good luck with that Ben and really and really, good luck with that, Emily.

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Got a video Shimoda for you, Ben. There is a scene at about the 2320 mark where Quark is mentioning to O'Brien and Bishir. Damn it! This is the same Shemotan. The one to two move that Maorn does. Yeah. So yeah, this is great. So what happens is Maorn is up in the balcony

and Quark enters the frame and is telling them about the bet that he's got with Maorn. And then there's this reveal of Maorn as he's being talked about that is like a horror film bit of framing. It is awesome and hilarious. It's so funny. Yeah, it is the definitive drunk shim out of this episode

and potentially of the series. It is such a funny bit of direction. Like we'll get more in standing here. When the camera swings as Quark walks around the table, we'll just establish that more is over on the circular staircase, listening in on the conversation. Very funny.

Because I mean, in like the backstory is that Quark and more and have had made a bet on where Bashir's relationship with this other Starfleet doctor goes. So it's justified, but it's also hilarious. It's really great. And I feel like in Star Trek, there are very few times where you get shot comedy. Yeah.

And that's what this is. There's a couple of moments like that in this episode. There's that moment when Jake comes to let his dad know that he's coming on the big sailing trip and the reveal is like the camera fades up on a port hole in the in the hall of the ship and Jake's head just appears in it and he's like it's like it's like a shot from Peewee's playhouse looking in that that circular window in Peewee's front door, you know. Very funny. That ship looked really expensive to make for a bottle episode.

Totally. Ben, what do we have coming up on the next episode? The next episode is season three, episode 23, family business. Quark returns to his home planet to confront his mother, who has broken the Ferengy law prohibiting females from earning a profit. You know, normally I praise these Amazon descriptions for being by somebody who's actually watched the episode, but if they had, they would know that you never put an article in front of profit in the Ferengi Argett.

You would never say earning the profit or earning up profit. You would just say earning profit. Sure. It's like mistakenly saying the Ukraine. Right. Can't do that. Just exposes that you don't know anything about what you're talking about. I know that feeling. I'm gonna queue up at um the game of buttholes the will of the profits.

That's right, Pannets are board game that determines the way in which we will experience a greatest gen episode. And currently we are on square 60. We could potentially hit a space butthole that would take us back to square 18 for a Quartz bar. We could also hit square 64, which would be a starship mine episode, in which we would have to obtain a spaceship model, each would have to obtain a model spaceship and then build it well recording. So it would just be two distracted dorks making plastic noises.

That would be great radio, Ben. That would be the worst episode we'd ever make. I mean, yeah, but it's on the board. So we would have to do it if we got there. We would. We do what the board says. The board is the boss, not us. You're required to learn as you play.

Roll. I'm going to go ahead and take this six-sided virtual dice. Give it a spin, what do you say? Hit it. Tula! Did I win? Oh man, I have rolled a five, jumping us over both hazards. Shit.

I'm a little... For sure we'd be building models, Ben. I'm a little bummed out, Adam, honestly, because I recently got interested in getting the $800 millennium Falcon Lego kit. Whoa. And I don't really, I can't really justify spending that kind of money, but I might have talked to myself and do it, had we hit that. Geez.

I had a, yeah, that would qualify as building a spaceship model. Yeah, and it would be a tax write off, right? Because it would be for work. Oh, shit, that would have been great. You know what, you can hit it on the comeback if you hit the wormhole at square 87. Oh, yeah, we could hit that wormhole. It'll give you another shot at it.

Yeah, okay. So just a regular old episode, of course I still have my rain check here that I could inflict a quirk's bar on you at any time. That's right. I was thinking the other day, what would happen if I did that to you like during another quirk's bar episode or during heaven for fanned a more enamored episode. Or if you did it during the Starship Mine episode. The compounding problems. Yeah.

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