The Greatest Generation - The Seven Year Shit (VOY S6E11)

Episode Date: July 31, 2023

When the crew gets wrapped up in a new holodeck program, even the Captain isn’t immune to its quaint Irish charms. But when Katie takes things too far with the character mods, her Irish goodbye leaves Michael heartbroken at the pub. Does the worst hotel in Vegas have a tagline? Is Indiana weather just for ambience? What’s available in the vending machine at an assisted living facility? It’s the episode that redefines team building!Support the production of The Greatest Generation.Friends of DeSoto for Democracy.Friends of DeSoto for Justice. Friends of DeSoto for Labor.Follow The Game of Buttholes: The Will of the Caretaker!Music by Adam Ragusea & Dark MateriaFollow The Greatest Generation on Twitter, and discuss the show using the hashtag #GreatestGen!The Greatest Generation is on YouTube.Facebook group | Subreddit | Discord | WikiSign up for our mailing list!Get a thing at podshop.biz!

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the star trek podcast Good morning. And welcome to the greatest generation. It's a Star Trek podcast. A couple of guys just a little bit embarrassed about having a Star Trek podcast this early in the morning. I'm Adam Pranica. I've been here. I said, I do think about that sometimes because we tend to record like toward the end of work days. And I mean, just based on the download stats, I think most people listen in the morning. Yeah. That's the sense I get. We should really meet the FODs on their level a

little more often. We're always like drinking. Really like letting shit fly. And it's probably not the mood anybody's in. I think this is Star Trek comedy podcasting on hard mode. Can you be funny at nine in the morning? My wife said the sweetest thing to me on my way to the studio. Something she almost never does is encourage me in this endeavor. I made some flip comment about like, I'm gonna go try to be funny at nine in the morning and she's like, you're gonna do great.

You're gonna be very funny and I just melted. I was like, really needed to hear that. She knows that if she's like pretty judicious with comments like that, they'll really have meaning when she gives them out. Oh yeah. And the three times that's happened have been especially meaningful over the course of the years. Peak behind the pod, 9 a.m. might be the earliest

show we've ever recorded. It might, yeah. I don't think we've ever done 8 a.m. No. No. I mean, I don't usually fly before 10 a.m. and I would say recording a podcast feels as momentous as getting on an airplane. Because you want to be funny in both instances, right? Yeah, I want the bits to be hidden. When I'm going through TSA and whatnot.

That's one of your best longstanding rules of any kind. We've talked about the greatest gen rules, but the Benjamin R. Harrison rule about no flights before 10. Yeah. Beautiful. No brown eyes. Yeah. I developed that because when I was working at Engage it, I flew tons. I think I was probably on the road. Do you flew tons? That's a pretty bad 9 a.m. joke right there. Hey, we're going to let it slide. We're going to let a lot of slide today. No, but I was like, we would be on the road two weeks out of the month, you know, and often,

you know, I'd be like inbound for JFK, and we'd find out we needed to do something. And I'd be like frantically loading the InFlight Wi-Fi in the last 10 minutes. It's going to be available so that I can book a flight back out to like San Diego the next morning. Amazing. Yeah. And it was really crazy how often that happened and it started to just make me, you know, I was starting to lose my mind. And so I was like, okay, I have to institute a couple of policies about making sleep be allowed within the constraints of this work.

Because it was, God, it was such a fun job. I got to do so many cool things. I got to go, I literally touched the large Hadron collider with the tip of my finger. And I got to see, you know, like space technology being built, I got to go into labs where they're building drones that, you know that fly semi-autonomously. It was a really fun job, but it was also destroying my life.

What a career we used to have. I know, I know. I get to be on the fly on the wall in some really cool places. And now, that was the best part. The like special access thing was really cool. And I think that it's been kind of humbling. Like I guess we do get that a little bit with like greatest trek. We get screeners early.

So, you know, I've seen a lot more of Star Trek strange new worlds than most people. And that's kind of fun. But like when we go to like the Star Trek convention, they actively don't really want us to be there. I got the sense, you know? Like we don't get to go backstage, we don't get to, you know, do anything. Everything fun that we do at the Star Trek Convention,

like the Praynica, Kabanica, we pay for that, you know? Star Trek Las Vegas this week when this episode drops. Awesome, what fun timing. And I mean, I sent the email to the convention going like, hey, big time Star Trek podcasters would like media credentials. They'd never do it. Expecting this year like every other year to be denied. We watched a shared a TikTok video with you that's like a local

Vegas resident who kind of goes around and like reviews all the like famous Vegas hotels and she was saying that the Rio is currently the worst hotel in Vegas and yeah and their rates are like eight dollars during the week and they are hundreds of dollars during the convention as if Star Trek fans need any more proof that creation doesn't care about you. Yeah, yeah, like this is the least amount of money they could spend on the convention and the least comfortable place to do it for anyone. Yeah, I mean, my room, I didn't even go last year, but two years ago, my room was pretty rugged. I checked in originally.

I had to move rooms because the first one they put me in had maybe blood stains in it. There may be blood is... I think that's the actual tagline of the Rio. Yeah, yeah. The thing that I thought was the most remarkable about that video that Tiktok I mentioned is that she she just tosses off a casual mention of a well-established feral cat colony that apparently inhabits the grounds of the rio. Meow! Meow!

That doesn't surprise me at all. It doesn't surprise me either. I encountered feral people at the rio. Last time I was there. Some real wild child vibes. Well, anyways, come party with us there either way. A very scary version of a true foe film. What happens at the Rio? Keep your eyes on the greatest trek, social media accounts for information about the the Prenica Cabanica, if you're going to be in Vegas. Oh, yeah,

looking forward to seeing you there and eating all the fries and drinking all the peanut colladas together. Oh man. It's gonna be great. It's gonna be so good. If the purple zebra hoof drink station is not open, I'm gonna be really disappointed, but I'm kind of expecting it not to be open.

It is at last check only open two nights of the week for just a couple hours each. That's the crushed depth of any slushy stand, really. Like that's as low as it gets. Like how can you, in August, in Las Vegas, see fit to only open a frozen beverage stand for like eight total hours. That thing is like the only draw of the Rio at this point.

It's incredible. Yeah. Hey, check in with us on an upcoming episode where we'll give you our summary of how Star Trek Las Vegas went. It's 2023. We'll see if we can weather that storm, much like Starship Voyager,

weather's a storm in today's episode of Voyager. Yeah, kind of a wild concept in this one. It's Star Trek Voyager season six episode 11. Fair haven. Reaver course. Unless you've got something a little bigger in your torpedo toots, I'm not turning around. Oh, darn.

And our cold open occurs in Fair Haven. It does. It looks to me like it's post-Bronsage. Yeah, which is good. This is, I think the same fake European town that they used in the World War II holodeck simulation, but repainted to look like Ireland. Is that?

I did want to keep my eyes peeled for fascists. I mean, fighting fascists is a full time job, man. This restaurant will serve as our command post. Gotta keep your head on a swivel these days. Yeah. No Viches orZies visible here. It's just, uh, you know, it's just shameless. Just shameless.

Maggio Haller and getting macked on by Harry Kim. You remember that episode where Harry Kim wakes up in an alternate dimension and there's Cosmo, the coffee man? Oh, yeah. I really got that vibe from Shamus and I think unintentionally this episode sets up a discomfort with things right off the bat, just given the stories that Voyager has told previously about places like this. Right.

We also saw an apartment that looked very similar to Harry Kim San Francisco apartment in the previous episode. So it's like priming us to be thinking about the situations in that way. Right. Shamus is a very talkative NPC about things going bad at home with his wife. And Paris is just like furiously mashing the X button

mentally to like speed past all of this stuff. It's not working. No. It's not working. No, it's not working. James played by the great Richard Reel. Fave that guy of mine. He's got to be on Mount that guy, right? He really is, yeah. I feel like he and Brian Doyle Murray

kind of get switched up in my mind sometimes. I feel like they often play similar parts. They have similar, they probably see each other in castings all the time, right? There's probably the same amount of gravel in each other's throat too. You can't possibly cast a movie or TV show with both of them. It's just too powerful. Oh, yeah, yeah. Of a force of that guys.

Let's tell you, make a singularity. Yeah. Yeah. That guy's singularity a singularity. Yeah, yeah. That guy singularity must be prevented at all costs. Tom kind of cock blocks Harry and says, oh man, you gotta come check out the pub, man. The pub is where it's at. Yeah.

Leave Maggie O'Hallor in alone. I lasted 22 minutes. It becomes clear that Tom is the programmer. He is the otter of Fairhaven. And he has specifically programmed it not to be, you know, a fantastical place. There's no flotter, there's no leprechauns, there's no arachnia, the spider queen. There's a sense of holodeck program or vanity happening here with Tom Paris that is depicted throughout the episode. I think in a pretty useful way, like, Paris made a great thing and he's sharing it with everyone. But everyone who participates in the thing is like,

boy, I wish you did it like that. It's like he's getting the comments at him. Right, right. It really made me feel for Tom Paris here Leave him alone. They're havin' his perfect. Just the way it is. You know leave a five star review if you like it And if you don't, you know, that's cool too. He's one pippin' around. His dad may or may not hate him He's trying to fuck alien shuttlecrafts. Like, he's struggling. Life is not going well. Just like slapping on the back and saying, you did good on the Fairhaven program, you know?

Yeah, yeah, be grateful for Fairhaven. Am I making any sense here? Yeah, mechosup has taken on an identity of a gram of the cloth. Did you see how he leaned his bike on the curb? Very, very far over. I feel like if you're behind the camera watching this and the direction is, all right, the doc rolls up on a bike and then lean to it against the curb and you watch this happen. I would be like sticking my fist in my mouth and like biting

down on it because the way he leans the bike on the curb is like pedal down. It's the perfect lean. It's amazing. He could do this take 10 times and not get the bike to do this. It was crazy. I didn't listen to any of the dialogue in this scene because I was staring at that bike waiting for it to fall over. Yeah, I did a great job.

I mean, Robert Picard was a pro. He really is. He's ridden a bike before. Yeah, he's got some worth to do on a homily for Sunday Mass, which I apparently is a part of this program, which seems like it really sucks. Imagine the draft of characters, because that had to have happened

before this, right? You, you got to pick out who you're going to be in Fairhaven and the doctor gets stuck with priest. That's sucked. At least like taking it out on all of them by making them listen to his sermons, is that your conjecture? Yeah. That's the way God wants it. I don't know why, dude. So after the theme, we're in Sullivan's pub, where Paris is taking bets on an arm wrestling match between Harry and a real beardo. Yeah. I love this like reverse goatee look that a certain kind of like brawler in a show said in Ireland has. He's got the like the chops that end at the beard and then he shaved off the chin part of the beard. Yeah. The thing most people only do like in a bathroom shaving environment to like audition the look, but then finally shave the whole thing off. It's like no, no, no, no. This is dumb.

Dude, silly. I mean, I'll take a picture and like show my friends later so we can laugh at it, but can't walk out the house looking like this. How about the drama of the Harry Kim arm wrestling match? It really looks like he's done for. Yeah, he's a whispering at Liam. Yeah.

You're left this wrong. A lot of people get kind of browbeat into putting money on Harry Kim. So it's lucky that he wins. Yeah. You think the safeties are on in the arm wrestling match? That's a piece of this that's really interesting is like, was Paris a good bro to Harry Kim

in programming the arm wrestler guy? Like, you're going to make it to the Harry Kim wins, but make it exciting and interesting and not like he would just dominate in an unrealistic way. This is what I had off the whole Marriardy thing at the pass if they'd said, make a holodeck villain that can't beat data but can really make data worry that he might get beat.

You would be a great programmer. The captain walks in in uniform. He hasn't cosplayed her way into this program and she meets the public in a real hunk. Yeah. Look at this guy. He's just there wiping off the bar, doing bartender stuff, polishing the beer tap. Suggestively, you have done yourself this time. Everything is authentic except for one tiny detail.

Criticizing the backwards harp. Yeah. Yeah, harp is backwards. This is a very subtle bit of trivia that really establishes This is a very subtle bit of trivia that really establishes Jane Ways, Bonafide's W. Slash R slash T, being Irish. You know? Yeah.

What's the deal with it? Is it like hanging the American flag upside down? Yeah. Because you don't like who got elected president? This party is rescue. A correctly facing harp. because you don't like who got elected president. This party is rescue. Ha ha ha ha. A correctly facing harp. Let's other Irish people know that you know

which direction the harp should face. A reversed Irish harp means you're considering moving to Canada because you do not consider the political situation to be heading in your direction. People don't want to be thinking about politics and an Irish bar. in your direction. Wow, too slow to make up. You're backing up the line here. Power it out, start again. I mean, you can feel at this moment in the episode that this guy's gonna be important, but he's not interesting right now, not at all.

So uninteresting is the scene that Janeway's like, all right, back to work. Yeah, I hear Harry whispering to an arm wrestler over there. I gotta check that out. Yeah. Just hammer chrome, just like that. That's really strong. And the story is there's a neutronic wave front nearby.

And it merits some preparation because in the Aslab 7 tells Paris Janeway and Chico Tay about this wave. They've got 15 hours before it hits. And it's not like they can just turn the ship into the wave like a salue in the big chair. Right. And warping away is out of the question also.

I really wondered why the captain would personally come down to the holodeck to tell people about this. Like it sounds like an emergency, but then you're like, oh, they have 15 hours. I mean, it's like, it's not gonna be great, but they can do things to get ready. You don't often hear this kind of command, like, let's just stay put and write it out. Yeah. Well, they can't do anything else because it's already affecting them. They're not able to jump to warp and pulse won't get them away from it in time. So it's batten down the hatches and ride out the storm and they're going to be buffeted

by particles. So radiation inoculations for everyone. But it doesn't seem like they're stressed about the radiation. No. No. I mean, medicine has techniques to defend people against something like this, except for the precious view who choose to eat

horse tranquilizer and die on the mission. We don't get that C story. Of course, it's long day. What? What? What? This one to me, don't be careful, because I'm only going to see this once.

Nielix finds Janeway in his restaurant way after hours. He's like, you can't be in here right now. Like I'll get shut down by the health department. I don't like this look for Janeway. I don't like a person keeping a service industry person in their job after closing. Yeah. Buck out of here, Janeway.

Don't do it. Don't do it. What do you make of this story, she tells, about being from a part of Earth that evidently doesn't have weather generators on it? Oh, yeah. She's like, I grew up with very terrifying storms in Indiana. Maybe they let them happen, but they kind of like dial back on how lethal they are with the other generators just for like kind of ambience. Oh yeah, I like that.

I always enjoy the good eye on storm. Give me clear skies any day. You want some weather, just not annoying weather. Or maybe she grew up in a time where Monty Markham was like the governor of Indiana and it was just kind of letting the weather generators sit idle to, you know, let the federation citizenry know how soft they'd become. A very condescending Monty Markham. Or sure.

Nielix is concerned about what the crew is going to be doing while they've dropped anchor and has proposed maybe something that I thought was what just naturally would happen with a holiday program, but instead is kind of a unique property to the thing and open door policy to the Fair Haven program on the holiday where you can just walk in and walk out anytime 24-7. And Jane was like, oh, you mean like the mess hall? And then they cut back to Nelix and he's like, got a pencil in his hand.

No, not like the mess hall, captain. Yeah, nobody's talking about rebooting Tlaxi and Tiki bar. Nobody's talking about sundryns. unclear whether or not anyone at Fairhaven knows how to give a Tlaxian foot robe. No, yeah.

I mean, Nielix is going to be modifying some of the characters himself later. Oh, yeah. Yeah. So Janeway goes back into the Fairhaven program and find Sullivan, the owner of the town pub, and he's also doing some kind of after-hours stuff, but he's got a tea service out waiting

and offers her a cup of, and they sit and talk. She's like, what do you have in the taps back there? And he's like, what do you have in the taps back there? And he's like four kinds of vegetable broth. Like so much is made of Janeway reprogramming this character to like her exact specifications. I feel like right off the production line, this guy comes pretty close to satisfying her needs. Right. Yeah. He starts calling her Katie O'Clayer because her people are from County Claire. I guess that's just a role that she's going to

gleefully inhabit. They play a pub game, which is ring toss. Doesn't it start to feel a little menu-edish when a holiday character really wants you to stay and play with them. It really does. I got that vibe from this guy because she's like after she chugs her tea and vegetable broth, she's like, all right, gotta go to bed.

And he's like, no. W-w-w-w-w-w-w-w-w-w-w-w. That's more like Star Trek training there. You're thinking something is up here. He might be minuedic. Wait, please. Please don't go. You can't not yet. There's a lot about this character that feels minuedish for sure. How much of it has to do with his face? Also. Yeah. Did you want Game of Thrones? Were you a Game of Thrones man? I was not. No, I couldn't tolerate the nudity.

Yeah, neither could I. Just dragons flying around hanging dong in the air. Yeah. The other dragons, giant dragon boobs hanging in the air. I know. What is up with those horny dragons? This guy is apparently a big character on game of thrones. Hmm.

He's got a face for thrones. He really does. Yeah, he's got those deep facial scars. Yeah. He's a really good at arm wrestling. He doesn't have to whisper. Careful. He seems like one of those moves in middle school

where like you need an excuse to touch a person. You have a crush on and say, you're like, hey, let's do trust falls or something. Like, and they're like face to face here doing the arm wrestling thing. Yeah. Chris Hansen walks out the second doing the arm wrestling thing. Yeah. Chris Hansen walks out the second the arm wrestling match is over. And what's going on here seems pretty pervy, doesn't it?

Yeah. He's really made her a ring on his ring toss pole though. Hmm. She's putty in his hand until he drops the W bomb. Wow. He's got a wife. Yeah. I mean, what he can't possibly know

is that Janeway is not used to losing both arm wrestling or a guy she's interested in to a wife. She's ready to blow up the ship at this point, I think. Okay, you couldn't get her. I'm stronger than I look. The wife comes in, she's got Janeway season 1 hair and she's like, God damn it! My hair's too short to do that style now. Francis, the wife, seems pretty cool about this, given the shock.

I was playing and the arm wrestling they admit to doing. Yeah, by the fact that Chris Hansen is still sitting over the at the bar just like observing. You see Chris Hansen is the third to hang with your special person and another person. That's not a good look, right? Yeah, you're like Chris, who are you, which of them are you here for? No one has ever been this cool as Francis is about this scene. Yeah. But Janeway sees this as an opportunity to leave. Yeah.

And she does. She heads to six Bay where the EMH is doling out the radiation jabs. Janeway gets hers. Doesn't even win when, uh, when the hype goes in. Everyone there is really psyched about the fair haven program. gets hers, doesn't even win when the hype-o goes in. Everyone there is really psyched about the Fairhaven program. There's a lot of discussion about

like the possibility of an expansion pack. And I was thinking if you're Tom Harris, why wouldn't you do microtransactions so he can get some replicated credits, you know? He's a guy that from time to time has run out. Oh, no, you're thinking like an executive at electronic arts, Adam. You know it. Woo! Topical video game joke over on the bridge.

The entrance that Janeway makes here is incredible. Because she has a real Adam shows up for lobby call sense of timing. Like the wave is gonna be on the ship in less than a minute. And Janeway has decided to arrive on the bridge less than a minute before the wave hits. Right, the cab is about to leave because it can't like legally idle

for more than 10 minutes or whatever. She would have missed this thing if there was a backup at the Turbo Lift, right? She would have. Do you think the captain has expressed the fireman key for the Turbo Lift? Like when she's in it, it goes where she wants to go first. Oh, yeah. Yeah.

When I was little, my dad had a friend who was in an assisted living facility that he would go visit a bunch. And so I would like go with my dad a lot. And one of my great joys was he would always like give me a dollar and let me go down to the lobby to get something out of the vending machine while we were there. And an old man on the elevator showed me the trick

of if you hold the button down for the floor you're going to, it will skip the other floors on this elevator because there's so many medical emergencies in an assisted living facility like this. I like abused the shit out of this and then like years later realized like, that was like actually really uncool because if EMTs need to get a person that's like coding

out of the building and a 10-year-old is using this feature to speed up his access to a baby Ruth or whatever, I could have caused somebody's death. That is classic Benjamin R. Harrison guilt. That's guilt myth-making by value. You gotta let it go. I prefer lying awake in bed at night worrying about that personally. My mind went all sorts of places thinking about what

possible things could be inside a vending machine at a assisted living facility. And my mind directly went to like a vending machine full of lifesavers. Yeah. Like hard candy. Fig newtons and lifesavers. For you. Yeah.

Yeah. Yeah. Do it. Do it. Do it. Do it. Do it. Do it.

Do it. So they get a pretty heavy duty banger with the leading edge of this wave, but once it passes, it's calm. And they hope that the leading edge is going to be the worst of us. But then we just cut forward 10 hours in time. And we've got three more days of this storm that the Voyager is going to have to weather. But now it's just kind of downtime on the ship while they ride it out. Janeway's log tells us that Fair Haven has gotten five star reviews. It's not just the crew that loves it. She loves it too.

And she's really hit it off with Michael, the bartender, even though Paris did not consult with her on the design of this man. Yeah. To that end, she goes into this kind of holodeck editorial room where it's got like a small hologrid and a bunch of computers. And she loads up the Michael Sullivan program and starts making some adjustments, adding a couple of inches here, tightening some things up there. Education, personality, hog size,

no attachments to a wife or a family. Yeah, at one point she does say delete the wife and we cut to the inside of holodeck 2, where Chicoet falls right on his boner onto a rough hue and floor. Pfft. Ha ha ha ha ha. rough, you and floor. Oh, that poor guy.

So sad. Then I sadly don't play enough hours of video games, but I feel like if you were going to like look at the pie graph of where I spend my time playing video games, the character construction part of those games is like 80% of the time spent. And then 20% is like the playing of the game before I eventually stop. Yeah, I'm kind of the opposite I would say. Yeah.

I just wanna get through that part. Over in the mess hall, Tuvac is looking sick, space sick. Yeah, he's really suffering. And this seems to be for anyone watching something related to the wave there inside. And seven suggests that he goes and takes care of himself, but he won't. He says he's having gastrointestinal stress. Go, like, at least get out of a public place, Tuvac.

If you're, if you're such a shame-oriented person, like you can never talk about your better looks job and constitution around the crew. That's what they expect. No one expects a farting Tubac. Yeah, I'm just saying like save yourself a little bit of shame. Like you don't want to go through the anal equivalent of pawn far in front of everyone, right? Is that a involved fingers? It's the seven year shit. It's 9.39 in the morning.

And you were able to conjure something really great. You're a total pro, man. Oh, yeah. Well, I've been up all night. You could do this anytime. I've been up all night thinking about these. I love the scene where Paris and Kim are working on Alts for the Holodeck program.

Yeah. And they pitch some ideas. What if it was gloomier? Like totally nauseating ideas. Like what if you had more ash trays filled with beer and vomit? Like really on the nose descriptions of things that are sick making? Yeah, what if there was like a way that you could trip and follow in the game and your

mouth would like hit a pile of cat food and it would like go inside your mouth? Yeah, what if there were just more open sewers? How bloody should the pudding be? This is great. And Tuvac is gonna puke, and I wanted to watch this so bad. Oh yeah. I'm a real sick puppy.

I wanted to watch Tuvac puke. He's gonna puke, he's gonna puke! He's gonna puke! Do you think, like, if people puke green, do Vulcan's puke red? That's gnarly. I wouldn't like that. Yeah, it's bad.

The how sick can we make to a vaccine? A lot of fun. We cut back over to Fair Haven, where Janeway has put on a bodice all the better for the ripin. She's touring around looking for Mr. Sullivan, who is not at the pub. One of the mods she's made is that he's a more lettered character. So he's down by the train station,

reading a bit of literature. Yeah, this is really conspicuous reading in public, isn't it? Yeah. Hey, look at me, look at what. There was a kid in my college class who had always had a how to make friends and influence people book that he would read before class started. It was real like, what are you trying to telegraph?

Cool. You know you could use a book cover on that. You could make that look like it's almost anything. Janeway has missed the train, but Michael Sullivan is ready to run a train on regular intervals. If only she would sit on that bench with him. The chant, the banter, even more zesty than it was before, and now he's putting her on to poetry and literature. He's like just starting to really put the moves on thick

when Chico Te Show's F. And oh man, this was a tough scene. I love how Michael Sullivan and Chico Te observe each other in that like, should I be threatened by you? Like they both have that feeling. It's great. It's such an alpha move to invite your primary romantic competition on the date you're about to go on. Amazing.

I love how Michael Sullivan tin man's the word tattoo. And this scene also. That's a fine tattoo. Are you off a ship? You could say that. It's great. tattoo. Are you off a ship? You could say that. It's great. Yeah. Yeah, like complimenting your, you know, like,

oh man, you get a real rock hard abs on you, huh? Feel those calluses. Yeah. Those are the calluses of hands that make bathtubs, huh? Oh, you're really strong. Oh yeah. Yeah. Change the angle of your elbow. Make sure you don't press down.

Yeah, you just got to work on the placement of your hips and you're going to be really good at this. So Chico Te fucks off to the ox and the lamb leaving Janeway and Michael Sullivan alone again. You two have fun. And we cut to later on the bridge, they're back at work, Chicoote and Janeway are. Janeway's getting briefed on how rough things are

and how they're gonna get over the next few days. And Janeway's been reading on the bridge, doing her shifts. I don't think that's cool. It's very funny, like Chico Te picks up this poetry book and he has the energy of like, I found your whack-off material, you know. He's very encouraging of it.

He's not trying to stop her from having her fun. Chico Te picks up Janeway's book and like reads the title and he's like, who's Chuck Tingle? Catching up on the little reading. It's fun because like Chico Tei won't say it, but he's got this all figured out. Like, there's a fun bit of light ball kicking at the captain here. I mean, we've all enjoyed a bit of bangers and mash, you know?

I love that at the end of this conversation, Chico Tei seems comfortable with admitting to Janeway and everyone else within your shot on the bridge. You know, I love that at the end of this conversation, Chicoete seems comfortable with admitting to Janeway and everyone else within your shout out in the bridge that he has fucked a hollow person or hollow people. And he is really okay with that. It's perfectly normal, perfectly healthy.

He's into it, you know? Yeah. You want this kind of friend. I feel like he's so into it that he would be into like doing it with her, you know? In the interest of Irish culture. Exactly. Exactly.

As a team building exercise. I got to get that. Not in the butcher's life, no more your mouth. I got to get that. Not in the artinus, just a gold. How would you like to have dinner ready tonight in two minutes? Seriously, two minutes. I couldn't believe it either, but that's how they do it at factor meals.

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Yeah. Sullivan's pub is like the place to hang on a Saturday night, right? It is off the hook. Sullivan's has everything. Iris jigs, vegetable broth on tap, no leprechauns. No, pheracons, leprechauns that look like pherapha. It's the only Irish pub that can needle drop pony. And yeah, that still feel like the vibes are right

What do you think makes Janeway so free in this scene to assume her own privacy? Because she seems to be the only crew person in Sullivan's for this rager, right? Yeah, that surprised me too. I mean, they do talk about like they're using both holodecks for this. So maybe like Captain's holodeck is the one she went to. Yeah, I like that idea.

I mean, there is one other member of the crew in here because when she asked the computer to remove all of the non-Solven characters, it cuts to out in the alley where Chicoetay falls dick first into the cobblestones. Out. Then he turns to the camera and he goes, remember how I was talking about how I sometimes

like holiday characters? Yeah, a rare breaking of the fourth wall on this show. I never let that stand in my way. Yeah, it's fun. It really helps you understand Chico Te's angst. Yeah. They've waited long enough at a KDO Claire and Michael Sullivan. Yeah.

Time to start smoothing. We cut around the different areas of the bar to metaphorically depict what's happening here. And there's like over on the tap of vegetable broth, there's like a slow leak that turns into like kind of a deluge. And then like one of the ring pegs on the ring toss game gets long like a Pinocchio nose. It's extra big. And then just a stack of rings falls on it. Yeah, a stack of saggy rings below that giant shaft. A banger falls into a plate of mash with a lot of gravy.

Just a bowl of mashed potatoes that have been absolutely pulverized. Way overmashed. It's hot, it's hot and heavy. Good job, Michael Sullivan, asking to kiss her and then kissing her and then reaffirming her consent afterwards. I got to believe part of the reason we cut away is because this consent request is constant. Yeah, I mean, the next question, the answer, you know, is a little too hot for TV, I think. Might I overwip your mashed potatoes? Presumably, she sort of got what she came for based on what happens in the next scene, because we're in her quarters, and it's very rufal.

It's very contemplative. It's just this silent little moment where she takes her stack of, you know, artificially distressed Irish literature and puts it in the matter recycler and recycles it. I'm trying to decide whether or not to go for a joke here, but it's the morning, like I'm just all up in my own head. Well, maybe we can workshop it. What's the your head? In your head, my ghost dick, my ghost dick, my ghost heart dick. That's quite a grip you have. I think that was worth going back for.

Alright. I think that was worth going back for. All right. Felt good. The X comes in and finds Janeway having her sad. I love that this might be Neelix putting the hand on the other foot here after the staying after hours at the mess hall that Janeway did. Like very late at night, Neelix is like, oh, you're still up. Oh.

And this is your private time. Oh, interesting. Hey, if you aren't sad enough already, the doctor's thinking about doing a rendition of Danny Boy down at the top. Yeah. That is not the attraction that he thinks it is. Is it? Yeah. She declines to be cheered up and declines to go to the rings tournament.

But we cut to the rings tournament where seven is absolutely stopping a mud hole in Shamus's ass. Poor Shamus. Yeah. He's really eating shit here. Yeah. poor, shamus. He's really eating shit here. He's not doing well. Her hand-eye coordination far beyond his. Just going to be kissing a lot of blonde girls and black skirts to feel better about this. The thing about this scene is that it pays off up the long ladder because the Borgs assimilated that culture.

And that's how that's how seven so good at this game. We added the distinctiveness of the ring toss game. For a while, it was very addictive on on Borg's cubes. Like everyone played it turned out Michael O'Sullivan, also a T-totler. He's very much the, the Sam of the Sullivan's Cheers Bar. He is, isn't he? Good call. He is over at the bum out table.

And for some reason, this is a side quest that Tom and the EMH decide to play in this game, cheering up the sad bartender. So they go over and hit triangle to see what's up and he starts telling them about how. Yeah, I had this magical night with Katie O'Clair and she ghosted me, man. I don't know, even know where she is. I haven't seen her around at all. I think it's natural for Paris to be like,

insufficiently interested in a non-player character story here. But what's fun is the consequence of this. Yeah. Because when he's not enough of a bro to Michael, Michael goes in for some Fistika. You don't take on good enough for him? I didn't say that. And it lights off a massive bar fight. Yeah, like an old West style bar room brawl breaks out.

And, uh, safeties are off. Like, this sends a bunch of people to Six Bay with actual injuries. Did the safeties cover injury or just death? Oh, I don't know. I mean, how could the computer be sure what's going to kill you? I don't know. That's a great question.

Could you get like a holiday injury that leads to accidental death and then it's like you got to sue the manufacturer of the holiday for wrongful, whatever. Like if an NPC breaks a bar stool over your back, but when you fall, you hit your head on the corner of the bar. Right. Who's fault? Who's fault is that? Who bears the liability of that? Yeah. Hard to know.

I know Starfleet's not picking up the tab. Certainly not. They're all in six-bake, getting, you know, lights waved over them. And the captain comes down and she's like, what gives? I'm bored as fuck. I'm not doing holiday anymore.

And the ship is still stuck in the mud. So, like, what's going on down here? It's fun how everyone in Six Bay knows the reason. Like, when everyone knows a thing that the captain doesn't, that's a fun bit of tension, right? Why don't we take a little walk? And the tension also being that it's a little bit suspicious that she is this curious about what's going on in the holodeck,

despite having chosen to stop going. I mean, the last time Kim and Paris showed up injured like this, there was a mechanical butt slapping machine involved on some space station, you know? I'm Captain Cam and Janeway, the U.S. and 4th-J. Captain Cam and Janeway, the U. with Janeway down the hall and sort of gets into what his theory is about why she's so deep in her fee fees. And this is kind of like uncommonly, emotionally intelligent for the EMH. He is noticing that she had this kind of romantic dalliance and that it is a pretty unusual thing for her to permit herself a

comfort like this. And he is concerned that she is too isolated and not taking care of the person Janeway because she's being capped in Janeway too much. He's observed that she has not walked with a limp like this for a long time. And you can't just go cold turkey off of playing the rings with Michael Sullivan, you know? Yeah. In prying, as he says, he doesn't want to do, he learns from her that

she kind of got freaked because of how appealing it got. You know, she had this magical, you know, lakeside hang, they they fucked beside a waterfall. She's pregnant with a hollow baby. Yeah. You know, a lot is changing for her. It was a memorable three days. I made him eat pineapples in a picnic by that waterfall. He ate 14 pineapples that day. We learned in the reencounter at far point that you have to eat pineapple for a long time before that takes effect. Yeah, but I made it so that it took effect immediately. I went down to that laboratory and said computer, alter the character of Michael Sullivan

so that he's been having a serving of pineapple every day for the last 30 days. I don't see the problem, don't you? This moment, like the assumption is that Janeway's shame would come from fucking a hollow character. But something else creeps into this admission, right? Like she's got real feelings for a hollow character and she fucked him. But also like third on this list is that she just couldn't stop tinkering with his perfection.

Right. She met a man that was a little bit broken and decided to make a project of him, but we had the awesome power of being able to actually move the sliders in the settings. You see, Dr. I've lived the dream. I've flown too close to the sun. A sun made of pineapple ropes. Yeah. The working title of this script was the Icarus factor. Yeah, yeah. The doctor defends her decision making like this.

Like, you gotta fuck somebody and it sure as hell can't be anyone from the crew. And we cut over to Chicote who who is on fair haven in that very same picnic flat where Janeway and Michael were. He's doing like native American tracker stuff. And there's like a wet spot on the ground. And he smells it and like takes a little taste of it on the tip of his tongue and goes pineapple. And then he snaps a pencil. The doctors done the math too, like there aren't enough aliens with compatible genitals around for them to go port to port to just satisfy Janeway's needs. And where does that lever? Yeah.

Because Janeway's feelings are real, even if the dude isn't. There's coffee in that hologram, if that's possible. So there is a compelling case for continuing to get that bodice shredded. I really like the subtext of this being the doctors case that he's making to. Yeah. Because woven throughout his entire argument

is like, you know, how low people are pretty cool. And they have a lot of advantages to being around and you know, they kind of deserve personhood or whatever. Like, fucking a hollow isn't less than in many ways it's better than and it's, how those should have really rich and interesting sex lives also. Yeah. At the end of the conversation, Janeway hops on a turbo lift and it really makes you wonder where she was headed. But we cut over to the bridge and that's where she's at. She's giving orders for the ship to keep riding out the bangers. Yeah, this is the trailing edge sequence. This is the last of the wave before the storm abates. And, you know, the

bangers are hitting them. And it's like, suddenly, this storm that hasn't really posed that much of a problem for the ship is going to tear them apart if they don't make some modifications to the deflector array. And it's one of those seasons where it's like, okay, I guess there were some stakes in this episode aside from like Janeway's personal life stuff. Easy to forget. Yeah. Yeah. I feel like this episode does sort of forget a lot of things like the two-vac is allergic to the new tronic radiation storyline doesn't seem to go anywhere at all. seem to go anywhere at all. I mean, that moment really clangs on the bridge too. Like the idea that this is a life-threatening moment and we need all the power from everywhere and there's that big, thick highlight and underline

of like even fair haven. Ha-ha-ha. Please say it's not so. In order to survive this moment, we need to shut down a holodeck program. And this is an easy decision for Janeway to make. Do it. It seems like she's sort of already made the decision.

Like, she put her books in the matter reclamation system. I think the show is trying to say something that it's really not able to, which is like the disposable quality of a holiday and its program. Janeway could go into the holiday presumably at any time and program anyone to be any type of person that she needs in that moment. The idea that Michael Sullivan is unique is sort of like, again, portrayed as a sort of minuet figure in a way that I don't think is earned, but it's also unspoken. So it makes you can note a value for him that maybe he doesn't have. Is the value just in the

in the property of being Janeway's first nut in six years? I mean, we know that not to be true because she had Leonardo da Vinci programmed up before. A way to focus their mind. Anyway, they make the ultimate sacrifice. They mess up Fairhaven and Tom and Harry are in there the next morning, I guess, like assessing the damage. And Fairhaven got real fucked up. They're talking about like, oh, we could just like restart it

or rebuild the program. And time is like, nah, it won't be the same. All the little details and nuances won't be there. It's interesting to see how the NPCs interact with their environment. Like, Shamus thinks that all the crackling and static around the program is a storm. But that's only because

he's an idiot. Yeah. You know, Maggie, you know, Halloran isn't as receptive to Harry's advances. It's all really sad. We cut over to Chico Tay and he's in the middle of fucking a non-plader characters crackly whole. down-plater characters, crackly hole. Ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha Neil Diamond's cracklin' Rosie. Maybe I'll go back and pick that up later. That's fun. Okay, sounds great. Paris comes to the breadie room and asks the captain if there's any particular part of the program.

She'd like him to save because they can only save a little bit. Wait, wait, not so much, she goes down to that hollow lab and starts the Michael O'Sot Sullivan character. And he remains like mad at her. Like she has not seen him since the lakeside hang. It's weird how she knows this because the part that Janeway has decided to save is like below the neck and above the knee. It's just a floating torso. Activate him.

And it's the resting mechanically. With a raging charger. It's hot. I can tell you're mad at me. He's really salty about this. And he was like, he was thinking marriage. He's like talking about settling down. And he's lucky she doesn't laugh in his face.

Although I guess he doesn't have a face, he just has the torso part. Stertric does a great job of like ending the drama of falling for a holiday character before the end of the episode. But like, what if they decided to continue on through? Like what if Janeway did marry a hollow program? I mean, she'd become a much fiercer advocate for hollow rights

than she ever has with the doctor. I presume she'd probably be less liable to blow up the ship anytime she doesn't get her way. That would not be bad. I could blow up my husband at any time. So this does sort of seem like she's here to say goodbye, but then instead she saves the character and locks herself out of tinkering with the controls of the character. I like this. Not changing the difficulty level on the game you're playing mid-game. Yeah. Nice ending.

But did you like this episode? You know, I made it easy to get along with most of the time. Yeah, nice ending. But did you like this episode? Weird episode like period Star Trek is such a specific kind of Star Trek, you know? Yeah And so often it can ring as cheesy and boy. I mean, Star Trek has a difficult past with depictions of the Irish. Sure. But they don't manage to fumble the ring here on this one. It's a pleasant depiction of a place and its people, even if it's fanciful or whatever. Yeah, it doesn't quite rise to a level of seeming discomforting. Yeah. I like getting more into Janeway's inner life and her struggle and her solitude as captain. So often, we've experienced Janeway as like a frustrated leader who sacrifices. Like just the main sacrificial figure of the crew, willing to work all hours, willing

to give away her opportunities for fun at every turn. And it is sad that, you know, in a rare time where she chooses fun for herself, it goes so poorly, but it was interesting to see her grapple with those matters. And tired, having Tom Mervins and all those dogs so far away. What's a captain to do? Yeah. Really asks some interesting questions without really completely answering them. What about you, Ben? I think that I feel pretty similarly, like I think that this episode is really strong in terms of being a character study of what is painful

about being Captain Janeway. And really honoring what a struggle it must have been the last five and a half years of her life to have all of this responsibility and so few outlets for just like basic human needs in her life. And the challenges of that seem like something that they've maybe like not spent enough time on throughout the series. Yeah. But yeah, I'd say the episode overall felt a little like silly and clap trap.

I think that they did do a good job of getting to some of those deep emotional truths for the Janeway character. And I think that Kate Mulgrew is so good at making that stuff feel super real and super lived in. But yeah, it's also just like silly and dumb. There has to be the time. Yeah. That's fair.

Very mixed feelings about this, but I never have mixed feelings about the priority one inbox at them. No. Never silly are the P1's. Never. Let's get in there and see what's waiting for us. Then our first priority one message is of a promotional nature. A message goes like this.

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How could I pick just one? Have we already watched, do you think, the greatest episode of Star Trek Voyager? I'm asking big questions, we don't have answers to it. We already watched, do you think the greatest episode to Star Trek Voyager? I'm asking big questions. We don't have answers to it 10, 15 in the morning. Yeah, I can't, I can't remember anything. I can't even remember what this episode was about Adam. All right, well. I can remember that the website people go to

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actually there for. Yeah. It made me laugh. I great job of hiding what she's actually there for. Yeah. It made me laugh. I thought it was a funny scene. Yeah, I like that there's a scene before this where she's really considering whether or not to go in. You know? Yeah.

There's an inner life here. Like we see a bit of her inner life this episode, but there is so much more inner life happening off screen. Right. How about you? Did you have a drunk tomato? I think it could be no one besides Janeway for the choices she makes this episode. Yeah.

Little bit chaotic. Like chaotic with intent, you know? Mm-hmm. Yeah, we're like KTOKOS. I mean, who wouldn't want to make a hollow person that just shoots pineapple ropes anytime you want them? Sounds great. Hey, Os! I mean, who wouldn't want to make a hollow person that just shoots pineapple ropes any time you want them? Sounds great.

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Oh, really? They really do. That seems to be like a pre-warp civilization, you think, is that the unspoken part kind of seems like a simple-minded kind of way to be. If you're going to center Voyager in your, in your worldview. But can you call a planet that doesn't even have warp drive civilized really? Now you really can't. Yeah. Not having warp drive is so uncivilized. Fuck that shit. Ben, our runabout has warp drive currently rests on square 61 of the game of buttholes, the will of the caretaker. Program by Craig Anderson.

Yeah. One square ahead is a space butthole. Three squares ahead. Starship mine where we build a spaceship model while recording. What would be certainly a bad episode of our podcast. You're required to learn as you play. Roll.

It can't be any worse than one that we have to record at 9 a.m. on a Saturday. I'm gonna roll the dice. Then you wouldn't believe it, but I rolled it too. Tula! Did I win? Are they? Woo. And instead of being on square 63, we are six squares ahead on square 67. Uh oh.

Greg. We're riding the bug. Greg, what happened here? The bug has taken us to square 67, even though I rolled it to. My bets should be voided here, but instead it will be a regular old episode for us. Just to be clear, we have not paid Craig Anderson a dime and he has refused all offers of payment here, so this isn't something that he did for an actual client.

Now, his work is good, we know that, and I think maybe the game is kind of crumbling as we get to the end of Star Trek Voyager, right? Like maybe... I say we ride this out. Like whatever the game wants us to do, we'll just do it. I like the chaos. Yeah, yeah. The game is in charge now.

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of the Adam Ragusia show. That's right. With that, we will be back at you next week. We're in our great episode, Star Trek Voyager. An episode of the greatest generation Voyager. We're like an entire planet. It makes like a quasi-religion out of listening to our podcast. And we're like kind of weirded out by it and like not that into it.

I'm pretty sure this isn't a cult, right? Errr. Our show? Uh, hey, don't do the quiet part out loud, Adam. Oh, fuck. I can't show. I can't show. It's not a cult.

Everybody gives. I can show. I'll make it show. I'll make it show. You'll look it gotta be you. I'll make it show. I'll make it show. You'll look it gotta be you. I'll make it show.

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