The Greatest Generation - The Symphony of My Life is Flatulence (S7E10)

Episode Date: August 9, 2017

When a federation planet is a bit backed up, the Entrepreneur crew pull on their rubber gloves and get to work. But when one of the scientists starts insisting she’s Data’s mother, the mystery goe...s more than medium-deep. What’s the perfect can? Is this canonical phaser? Will we ever record sober again? It’s the episode where Data’s similarities to Ronald Reagan really start to trickle down.

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Starting point is 00:00:00 Priority 1 message from Starfleet coming in on Secured Channel. Hey friends of Disodo. Before today's episode, we just wanted to take a moment to talk about the historic labor actions being taken by writers and actors in the American Film and Television industry. If you're a fan of the work done by the people who make Star Trek, we hope you'll join us in standing in solidarity with the folks who actually bring these adventures to life. Over the past several years, the AMPTP, the organization that represents the American Film and Television Production Studios, have reduced the profit from movies and TV going to workers. And in so doing,
Starting point is 00:00:35 they've attempted to weaken the labor unions that represent those workers. They wouldn't even engage the unions on many issues in their negotiations. And so a strike was the only course of action to take. Adam, Wendy and I have been having a lot of internal discussions about how best to stand with the unions and we are continuing those conversations in a dynamic situation. We're doing our best to understand where the picket lines are in these digital spaces,
Starting point is 00:01:01 and we would never intentionally cross one. With the information we have, we feel like we can do more good talking about and supporting the strike and continuing our show as planned. We'll keep you informed about what all this means for greatest trek specifically. Today we're making a contribution to the Entertainment Community Fund. This fund exists to help all the people whose livelihoods have been put on hold because the AMPTP refuses to negotiate
Starting point is 00:01:25 in good faith with the unions. It provides financial support for writers, actors, and all the thousands of laborers who make the shows that we talk about here and without whom we wouldn't have Star Trek to cast pot about. Those folks are all out of work because billionaires, company shareholders, and the executives of these companies don't want to compromise on the length of their yachts. We hope you'll join us in supporting entertainment workers in a challenging time, especially after they've already endured several years of challenges brought on by the pandemic
Starting point is 00:01:55 and season two of Star Trek Picard. We've set up a page where you can also contribute. It's at friendsofdecotoforlabor.com. That's friendsofdecotoforlabor.com. That's friendsofdisotoforlabor.com. Link in the episode description. Okay, now let's get on with the show. Here's to the finest crew in Star Trek Podcast by a couple of guys who are a little bit embarrassed to have a Star Trek Podcast. I'm Ben Harrison. That's Adam Pranaka. Hello! I stepped on your introduction. You did. I could, you know how you can hear people smile sometimes
Starting point is 00:02:45 on a mic. I could hear you like, like, wing a point at me. Like, like, pow. Baaah. I was just, I was setting up the recording session here. I saw that it was like 160 something in the number of episodes.
Starting point is 00:03:04 And I was like, holy holy shit how do we keep this fresh after all these years Adam. Did you see also that this is the last episode before our tour begins? Is it? That is also the truth. If the show is still going on and the world has not folded in on itself and we haven't killed each other and ourselves. This episode will be coming out on Wednesday, August 9th, Ben. Our plan is for our murder suicide pact not to work. Right.
Starting point is 00:03:39 Well, I mean, if there's ever a good time for a of suicide, let's do it after the tour. We put in so much work into this. Yeah, we really buster our asses to get this tour in order. That would be the dumbest murder of suicide ever. I think the thing to say about the tour is that it has sold very well. And there have been at least a couple of sellouts as of this recording. Check online because we'll be letting people know whether there are tickets available at the door. One thing that people said to us is
Starting point is 00:04:14 that in the summer folks like to leave their weekend plans to the last minute. So if you need a plan B. There weekend plans and sometimes in Milwaukee your Tuesday night plan can be a last minute booking also. Yeah. All I'm going to say is if you want to meet Razzin Pleveem, you get to come to that Tuesday Milwaukee show. Yeah, you got to come to that show. Razzin Pleveem have no idea how instrumental they're going to be in that show. But I think it's only fair that we cause as much trouble for them as they have for us.
Starting point is 00:04:51 Sure. We need to exploit them, Ben. Over and over. I am drinking a delightful gin and tonic, Adam. This being a sweaty summer day. I needed to cool off a little bit. I was inspired by your drink choice, so I ran upstairs and made my own gin and tonic. God! I like that you're stocked to make a gin and tonic as a surprise drink for yourself. Oh man.
Starting point is 00:05:19 Now everybody keeps tonic in the house. Oh yeah, we keep the tiny cans of tonic, like the little half-can. I love those little half-cans. That's the perfect can. And we've got a we've got a larger full of those little cans and we're good to go at any point. You always want to be ready to make a gin and tonic, I think, because like, is there a more inoffensive drink for the casual drinker? Like, you got company coming over? They surprise you, better make a cocktail.
Starting point is 00:05:49 What are we gonna make? Everyone likes a gin and tonic, I think. Yeah, I always wondered what a lighter was for. Turns out it's a room full of cans of tonic. Yeah, I think they got that, like the idea of a lighter came from like medieval times. When, you know, in medieval times it was incredibly difficult to keep tonic fresh. And so they would, like in the basements of their, of their huts, that's where they would
Starting point is 00:06:17 keep their tonic. They would salt the tonic bin. Yeah. Keep it fresh. There was like a kind of a tonic pemican situation. Yeah, that is my least favorite flavor of beef jerky. Do you put any stock in the theory that pouring room temperature soda or tonic over ice takes the bubbles out of it?
Starting point is 00:06:44 I had never heard that theory until you just laid it on me. I had no idea. I think I heard them say that on bar rescue or something. And they said it as truth? Yeah, like John Tapper was yelling at somebody that they didn't refrigerate their mixers properly or something like that. John Tapper's like, now everyone knows
Starting point is 00:07:04 that when you pour room temperature soda over ice, it loses its bubbles. Yeah. What my reality show presupposes is, maybe you get to keep all those bubbles? I love that show because of all the beautiful, composed shots, they'll have a perfectly symmetrical frame and then they'll do a long dolly shot
Starting point is 00:07:24 and it'll land on another perfectly symmetrical frame. Yeah. What's your take on Tapper? I think that he is probably a really talented businessman and definitely a very entertaining person to watch on TV but a lot of the bar concepts that he comes up with are a little bit busy for me. Yeah, I kind of feel like the idea of a concept as a concept.
Starting point is 00:07:51 I kind of already reject like this. This bar doesn't have a good enough concept so we're going to come up with a new concept. It feels like any concept is a variation of a bunch of shit on the walls, right? Right. Yeah, everything is a...it all, like, the common denominator for all of these bars is TGI Fridays. And let's see that being a great long-term play. Like, if there's no culture in any of the bars that he leaves behind. That's...
Starting point is 00:08:22 Yeah. And maybe that is the culture. The culture of the culture, Liz. Yeah, the pastiche culture. Yeah. I just, when I watch shows like that, they are so entertaining to watch, but I can never put myself in the position of the bar owner and feel like I would ever enjoy that. No.
Starting point is 00:08:47 Because Tapper is just stepping all over you. Like, you are a failure. That's why he's there. And so you better be ready to eat big old plates of shit. You better be ready to put a shit on the wall. Your employees are all going to get fired, but then rehired in a tearful reconciliation. Those tearful reconciliations are my favorite, my favorite form of reconciliation. Well reconciliation is a theme that is very present in the episode we watched today, Adam.
Starting point is 00:09:25 Do you think? It is. Shall we get to our episode? I think so, Ben. That's enough of diet. Let's drink about it. Let's flip the station to our show. Season 7, episode 10. Inheritance. The station to our show, season 7 episode 10, inheritance. The entrepreneur has pulled up to a federation world that is having kind of a constipated core, like an impacted core. It's all hard in there. That can be so uncomfortable. Yeah, it hasn't had a satisfying movement in a long time and they're looking for some
Starting point is 00:10:16 digital stimulation. That's just the worst. I think the one thing you could say about me is that I have too many movements. My movement be frequent. Yeah, the symphony of your life is... The symphony of my life is flatulence. I should really see a doctor. This is the earliest thing we've ever had at him.
Starting point is 00:10:45 Oh, delightful. We start with a McLaughlin group. It's your wand. And we introduce Dr. Juliana Tainer and Dr. Prantainer. Prant is an alien from this planet. Juliana is a human and they are the planetary constipation experts that have beamed up to the entrepreneur and they're explaining the problem and they wrap up the meeting. Picard says,
Starting point is 00:11:15 We've assigned you courses during our time here, please make yourselves comfortable. Which is really just code for your planet wasn't in the budget. It's really just code for your planet wasn't in the budget. Yeah. You know, it's like December right now and the plants at the hardware store are looking pretty bad, going to be honest. Yeah, we didn't want a bunch of brown ferns to be what this planet looks like. The relationship we have with the dentist office down the street has sort of deteriorated in a way that we can't just go over and borrow a ficus anytime we want. They've come up with a plan
Starting point is 00:11:52 which is that they're going to shoot, they're going to drill into the planet and then like install some equipment deep under the surface that will draw plasma in from space and really qualify the core, which will allow it to pass a movement that will get things back on track. This concept really blew me away, Ben, because if starships can shoot phasers into planetary cores, is this planet unique because it's crust is soft
Starting point is 00:12:24 and a phaser can penetrate it down to the core? Or could any starship shoot a phaser into most planet cores? And if that's the truth, then is every starship a planet killer? That's a good question. I hadn't thought of it. I mean, we know that the fastest way from one side of a planet to the other is through the planet core. So presumably some planets don't have anything in there. You remember that movie The Core? Remember how terrible that was? I think I've only caught bits and pieces of that on basic cable.
Starting point is 00:13:02 Bits and pieces are all you need, Ben. Yeah, it seems bad. But this really made me think like if this is canonical phaser, then why does a space bad guy ever need a super weapon? Let's just set that down and maybe return to it later. Fine. Fair enough. As the meeting wraps up, everybody walks out and Dr. Juliana walks up to data and is like, hey, no, nothing.
Starting point is 00:13:35 Don't recognize me or anything. And he says, should I? She drops a bomb on him, Adam. This lady with big time crystalline entity killer vibes drops a bomb on data. I am your father's brothers, nephews, cousins, former roommate. She's like, you haven't seen on Golden Pond, have you? I am airsatz Catherine Hepburn. Don't be such an old woman.
Starting point is 00:14:04 She's really might get hungry. I don't mean to say that to diminish this actress' performance, which I thought was great, but she definitely had old Hepburn vibes to me. She does kind of have old Hepburn vibes. I can dig that. Yeah? Yeah. She's had quite the career.
Starting point is 00:14:21 It looks like I'm just clicking into the thing. So she's been in, Steph has recently as 2014. And, you know, a sort of a handsome or older lady. Yeah. We should probably name checker who we're talking about her so much.
Starting point is 00:14:38 Her name is Fianula Flanagan. That's a first name that, that could be tough in certain circles, I think. Certain playground-based circles. Yeah. Certain playground-based circles with real like obscure medical problem knowledge. Are you thinking fistula? Yeah, over Winfrey is really raising a bunch of money to help with the Fianula problem
Starting point is 00:15:08 in certain third world countries. Yeah. You know what we need is that drop. Like we've got sitcom, laugh drop. I believe every once in a while we have got sitcom, laugh drop. I believe once, every once in a while, we have the sitcom, O, or Boo Drop. But what we need is that thoughtful, not quite a joke, um, drop.
Starting point is 00:15:38 I think you'll provide that at least a few times every episode yourself, Adam. I do that all the time. People always say that everyone always says, Ben, Ben is a very generous laugher, Adam is not. Adam does not laugh at Ben as much as Ben laughs at Adam. It's an atrocity, I don't understand it. You just have a very silent laugh.
Starting point is 00:16:03 Not a generous laugher. I do, that's just the thing. Yeah, I hope you know how funny I feel like you are. Stop licking my ass, Adam. It's great, because the good thing is when I get a real belly laugh out of you, I know I've really sunk one. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:16:23 Yeah, I hit the three. Yeah, you leave that arm up. What's the what's the big reveal Adam? Have we even said it? Boy, we really stalled that bit of trivia. We want to spend 10 more minutes on it. Fianulous like, data, don't you recognize me? I'm your maim. And data's like, Dada, don't you recognize me? I'm your ma'am. And Dada's like, no. And then we throw to theme song. I think this probably qualifies as a check-offs mom, doesn't it?
Starting point is 00:17:05 Oh, you mean like if someone claims to be a mom in the first act, you have to shoot the mom by the third act? Yep. It mean, yeah, like the version of this is like something's up with this mom. Like this can't be, this can't be a true mom. If you introduce mom vibes in the first act in the in the cold open I mean. Data has taken a big page out of the Ronald Reagan playbook in this episode. He's all about that trust but verify game. He's about denying AIDS but also trust but verify. He's like, hey, I'm a paragon of conservative values, but also I funded death squads in South
Starting point is 00:17:54 America. I am incapable of embarrassment. I mean, people feel like I am a qualified intelligent person, but no one can be sure if I wasn't racked with dementia during the last two years of my administration. I've been lionized, but I put a lot of stock in the opinions of my wife who regularly met with a psychic. Yeah, I mean, can we just say like Nancy Reagan was probably like, Sylvester Stallone's mom levels
Starting point is 00:18:26 of crazy I think so. Oh yeah, and she was also probably running the country for two years. And yet even now I yearn for those days. The heaven like a couple of whiskeys in 10, 4 hour data and his mommy. And she's, she's like got a pretty good level of detail, but it's really well written because she's got a lot of great head cannon for why data doesn't have any memories from Amitron Theta. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:19:01 Like why he doesn't remember ever being activated in Suung's presence, why he doesn't remember any of his life before Starfleet found him. Oh, there's a reason for that. We wiped your processors after we finished refining your programming. But she also will kind of like latch on to details of his backstory that data divulges and build on them. Why don't you tell me what you do remember and then I'll fill in the gaps.
Starting point is 00:19:32 Which is a little bit of a psychic thing, right? It's like taking something and acting like it kind of came from you. Right. So she's kind of cold reading him a little bit. And so he's like, well, like this seems like a thing, but also there's no Juliana other than this one from back then.
Starting point is 00:19:52 And she's like, well, that was me. I was, I was soon's wife, I helped develop you. I'm essentially like the, the other robotics genius that somehow commandor Maddox doesn't live inside the ass of. Julia, just goes into really explicit detail about how well she knows Nunean. Every little fold. She's on a first name basis with Nunean. She's seen the Nuneion. Data does that thing where Juliana puts her hands on his and then he just sort of recoils. He needs more evidence. She's providing a ton of evidence, by the way.
Starting point is 00:20:37 Like, she's doing the psychic tricks. All of her head can and seems credible. But data's like, I need to take this to Ancestry.com before I'm willing to like start a relationship with this woman Yeah, and apparently the console for Ancestry.com is engineering. I thought the same thing like what's data doing like surfing the internet at work? Like, what's data doing, like surfing the internet at work? I mean, he's like a pretty high rank, so he, I guess, has some assembly way to do that. Data is like confiding in Jordy that this is happening just now and then forward.
Starting point is 00:21:17 And Jordy is one of the funniest, like unintentionally funniest lines. He's like, data, why would anyone pretend to be someone's mother? Like, I'm imagining him projecting his own weird relationship with his mom, which happened only a couple of episodes ago and yet goes totally unremarked. Yeah, shouldn't, shouldn't, Jority just like, shouldn't he give us like a two Mississippi staring wistfully off into space? Yeah, shouldn't, shouldn't, Jordy just like, shouldn't he give us like a two Mississippi staring wistfully off into space? At least you have a mom. And then he just like looks at the warp core pumping for like five seconds. Yeah. Serpent the internet at work, man.
Starting point is 00:22:01 Yeah, like data doesn't even try to alt-tab back to like whatever gauges he was ostensibly reading in the moment. Jordy is a fairly permissive boss. Is Jordy the boss? I think data's got, they're the same rank, right? Yeah, but I feel like in the engineering, Jordy is the one calling the players, right? Yeah, yeah, data's on Jordy is the one calling the players, right? Yeah, yeah. Data's on Jordy's turf.
Starting point is 00:22:26 I used to go edit for this advertising agency here in New York, and there would be like a post-production producer that would bring me in. And the guy that ran the post-production department would just sit there like in this open office plan office for everybody to see playing World of Warcraft all fucking day. It drove me so crazy. Look, like I I dabbled in MMORG user whatever they're called in college. Like I I understand your experimental phase. I understand the appeal, but I think you gotta leave that at home, right? It seemed crazy. I was like, I was like, I know what I'm getting paid.
Starting point is 00:23:10 So I have to presume this guy's getting paid like significantly more than me. Oh, that would be so cool. And they're asking me to stay here till midnight editing. This guy's leaving at 7 p.m. Probably just go home and continue gold mining or whatever the fuck they do can I say fuck that guy because fuck that guy Yeah, fuck that guy. That's not cool
Starting point is 00:23:31 The worst I don't like having my phone out in any work context unless it is explicitly shown that I am doing phone stuff about the work thing that we're doing I just don't think that's a good look. Yeah, it's very unprofessional. Yeah. My love is a piece of love and tilt for that which is longer than us at the PC. How do you know you're not going to? Jordi, I guess, sort of convinces data.
Starting point is 00:24:00 Like, there's some... Data's doing some ancestry in engineering, and he finds evidence that, you know, sure a shit. She was on a transport ship with Nunean and like the timeline matches. The timeline matches in a sort of Oliver Stone kind of way, right? Like, Nunean is on the grassy, opening his umbrella Juliana is like behind the fence Like that you could make the case that her story holds Right and so data goes back to all circumstantial though like there's no there's not like security cam footage of them together
Starting point is 00:24:40 This is all text-based proof. There's no married record. There's no dick pick this is all text-based proof. There's no marriage record. There's no dick pick. If you want to prove that you're my mother, show me a dick pick. Juliana shows data a picture of her like Lindy Englanding, Noonian Suungs dick. Like pointing with one hand thumbs up in the other. Like pointing with one hand, thumbs up and the other. Oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, my wife this a bunch of times, like my wife has a laugh and then she has a laugh when she's laughing at something in a mean way. You have a laugh and then you have a laugh at something where I know you're deciding whether or not we can keep it in the show. But I love, that's my favorite laugh.
Starting point is 00:25:50 You know what I can't wait for Ben is the reddit picture of of that being photoshopped. Oh no, oh no. Please don't make that picture. I'll say that right now like like the head can and there's enough. Thank you. That is a guaranteed way to get somebody to make that picture at him is a loose show been this gin and tonic might be the official beverage of greatest gen in the short term oh man new pot fluid game yeah I'm halfway through mine and I'm I'm at a cruising altitude oh yeah you through. Yeah, I made a big one. Oh shit! You want to go make another? I could do that. Hit it. Are we just doing all drunk episodes now? I don't know man, it feels good. I'll be right back. All right.
Starting point is 00:26:54 Alright, so the kind of parallel storylines here are that they're going to like administer this milk of magnesia to the planet and data is getting to know this woman who claims to be his mom. And they sort of, you know, like they're working very closely with each other. There's a dam that breaks with data in her. Like, data is super open to the idea of bonding. And one of the ways that he chooses to do that is to invite her back to his apartment. And he plays a little little violin for her. And she's like, guess what? I play Viola. Maybe we should do a little concert together, a little mother-son concert. It's a funny scene because it's like, I mean, there are many moments in this episode that are conspicuously done for the cheapest possible price. And when she announces that she needs a Viola...
Starting point is 00:27:44 You don't happen to have a viola. I could replicate one for you. He like just kind of like walks off the right hand side of the frame. Computer, please replicate one viola. And you hear the replicator sound effect and then he walks back on with a viola. I wonder if you could choose a temperature for the Viola in the way that you can choose food temperatures. Viola, strativarius, lukewarm.
Starting point is 00:28:11 That would be fun. Julian is like, what the fuck, data? You burned my hands with this thing. One of the things that data shows his mom is a picture of LAL. Julie Hunn is like, this is your daughter? How exactly did that happen? Why do you hit her cut her hair like that? Data's like, I made her, which makes her my daughter, which makes you her grandmother. Mmm. She takes this as sort of the gut punch it is.
Starting point is 00:28:48 He says she's my daughter and she slaps him and he says she's my android and she slaps him and she says she's my daughter and my android. She's like is this all you have left of her and data like produces her head? Ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha Did they, Iris, did they put her in a torpedo and shoot her out? I think lousy of all the souls I've encountered in my travels. Hers was the least human of all the souls. I've encountered in the universe. She had the worst haircuts. And that's really saying something. Yeah, she's hurt by this. But her, but like, I feel like a little bit impressed also.
Starting point is 00:29:53 She's like, you know, data. It's no joke trying to make those positronic matrices. You know, you can't just like fiddle around in there, expecting to make some life. It's not easy. It wasn't easy when me and your daddy made you. We made you and lore and then like a third. We were making robots all the time and not a lot of them baked through all the way.
Starting point is 00:30:16 Listen, there's a guy called B4. You'll find out about him later. He's the worst. Yeah. A lot of feelings have come up for her. And they have like a little violin practice. And she talks to him, it talks to data about like the circumstances under which soon and she left Amichran Theta.
Starting point is 00:30:41 And she says that she made Nunean leave data behind and it is like the biggest most emotional confession. It's like she's carrying this around like she has, she like sentenced her own child to death. She had a terrible Sophie's choice and felt like she chose wrong. This actress felt pitch perfect throughout the episode except for this scene when she turned in ran and then sort of flailed her arms on her way out the door. I felt like... Everything was appropriately emotional until she turned in ran away.
Starting point is 00:31:24 Yeah, and they could have just cut that, you know? Yeah. Like, she really got a juicy role here and played it super well. And if they had just cut that, it would have been pretty flawless. There's something about that story that isn't quite right, though. And I think it's because even in the smallest of escape pods, like you could pack his head. Like there's room for babies and arms and Android heads
Starting point is 00:31:54 in any commercial escape pod, then. Yeah. And that's where the story just sort of lost the thread for me. Ma'am, now it's just a small personal item and one carry on. It's not two carry on, okay? We're gonna have to gate check that. You don't wanna gate check the head wherever possible. I'll just drink it here and I don't need to take it on.
Starting point is 00:32:24 That head's just gonna roll down the belt as it's going up into the cargo hold. She's having a real, a really tough time. I mean, let's get a very emotional reunion and and you're sort of forced to wonder like what Like she's been following data's progress like reading up on him, I guess following his Twitter or something and I just I I like this character so much and I just wish We had any Understanding of why she never reached out to him.
Starting point is 00:33:06 Right. I mean, ostensibly it is because of her guilt and then like the way that she displayed that guilt was so dramatic that we're supposed to feel like, oh yeah, well she feels really dramatic feelings about it. But I don't know, data special, I think you gotta reach out to them if you're the mom. Right, I mean, here's how I would head candidate. I would have written in a thing about like, I found out about the trial and command dramatics and I just didn't, like that guy seems like such a prick,
Starting point is 00:33:42 like keep him away from me, I'm not gonna, I'm not gonna make my existence known, you know. I'm not gonna put it out there. I love the idea that the Maddox data trial is like the OJ trial for its time. Like, it's played on all the subspace channels. You got that admiral as Judge Edo. Mm-hmm.
Starting point is 00:34:02 There's a lot going on there. Yeah. L'voix is Marsha Clark. There's a lot going on there. Yeah. L'Ovois is Marsha Clark. There's got some Marsha Clark vibes. Yeah. Riker taking Datasarmoff back into the left, back into the left. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:34:17 So they're down in one of these caves that they've drilled. They've been like punching holes down to the like, I don't know, medium medium deep layer in the planet. I'm sure that's the geological term. That's the sexual term. Yeah, they've gone past the just the tip layer of the planet and they're in the medium deep. They're at the not so deep layer. They're at the just like that layer. The not so deep layer is purely theoretical for you and me. Sure.
Starting point is 00:34:55 I've heard people talking in bed at an adult cinema, but I don't know if it's kind of like the hyperbole of that genre or what? There is no hyperbole in adult cinema band. Oh, no. Now it's my knowledge. Well, anyways, they're down there in the place where you used to. And they've got the, they're like firing up the equipment and getting everything,
Starting point is 00:35:23 getting everything ready. And Dr. Juliana and Dr. Pran are down there with data, and they're just like sweating bullets, because this is like a freshly drilled hole in the ground. They drilled it with phasors, so it's hot AF down there. And they talk about the amacron theta thing, and data's like, if I had been your biological offspring,
Starting point is 00:35:44 would you have left me on Amacron Theta? My feelings aren't gonna be hurt if you tell me. And her explanation is basically like she was worried that he would be lower if they turned him on again. And so he's like, well, wait, but like, if I was like a baby, if I was like a real, if I was a real boy, wouldn't you have taken me with you, whether or not I was lower?
Starting point is 00:36:10 And she's like, listen, dude, if you were lower, I would have had to dismantle you. Like, I had already done that with lower. That shit fucking destroyed me. That was the worst thing I ever had to do. It killed me. I had motherly feelings toward him. So we left you behind because I couldn't face
Starting point is 00:36:29 the reality of what we were doing. It's just like heavy shit. There's a stigma against pit bulls that like, I get, but I also don't get. You know, I guess it just depends on your nature versus nurture camp. But I totally get her deal about like, we made a lore and it ended up being a lore. And we were afraid of you also becoming a lore.
Starting point is 00:36:52 Like her reason seems totally sound to me. Like you don't want one of those guys hanging around. They're creepy as hell. We just recently did the DNA test on my dog and found out that he is part pit bull. Really? Yeah. You did an ancestry.com on your dog. We did, uh, yeah, we did like a DNA test.
Starting point is 00:37:14 Turns out Darwin is part Native American. That's where he gets his tenacity. Yeah. Here's my question, Ben. What are you supposed to feel after hearing this story and what do you feel and are those two things different? Well, I think what I'm supposed to feel is that this is a very tragic figure who kind of ran away from a problem and has lived a life
Starting point is 00:37:43 that is semi-regretful of that fact. But what I do feel is let's have a violin do it. They do some real devil went down to Georgia. Shit, intent forward. And did you see who I'm gonna talk about lieutenant J. I am Rikers got his arm draped around her. Is it any surprise that Riker would steal a woman away from J. L Pipes I'm not surprised. I think the lieutenant J is just a fucking player She like used Picard up and spat him out, and now she's gonna, she's gonna apply her,
Starting point is 00:38:28 her ways with Riker. If anyone in the tertiary crew has Rowe Lairon vibes, it's Lieutenant J. She gets what she wants, she takes it by force if necessary, and we know Riker likes Rho. And if you can't have Rho, you'll love the J-Ur with. I love that song.
Starting point is 00:38:52 They typically shoot performance scenes in 10 forward differently. Like this is an over-the-top from the window perspective here. It feels fresh. It's like a, it feels fresh. It's like a Freaks Playbook shot. Yeah, it really is. Freaks didn't direct this though, did he? No, I don't think so. Yeah, wait a get high, wait a get wide.
Starting point is 00:39:14 During the recital, you get a super close up on data and he's sort of eyeing his mother as scant. He has picked up on something that we have not picked up on. Right. And it is probably something to do with like you had a lot less hair in the last scene. So what's up? Are you doing like the Beverly Crusher thing or how's this work? Smash cut to six bay and data is like and data is like, so Beverly, if you were to rank how HIPAA compliant you were on a scale of one to ten, would you say you're more of a four? Because I'm gonna need you to be like a three in this case. I'm gonna need some records about my mom, and I need you to not ask a bunch of questions about it.
Starting point is 00:40:09 And Cresher's like, well, for you data, I'll violate almost any doctor-patient confidentiality. Yeah, what the fuck, Beverly? I guess this is no surprise. Like, she's doing autopsy's when she's not allowed to. She's willing to bend the rules of medicine. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:40:26 For herself or anyone else, it seems like. So they're in the middle of looking at the scan of data mom and she like doesn't look that unusual on the medical thing. But does she have discrete organs? I feel like when you're Beverly, that's the first thing you should, you should figure out on any scan. Yeah, well, it's, it is the first thing you should figure out on any scan, but Beverly doesn't know what the word discreet means. In any definition.
Starting point is 00:41:02 I don't know if we can leave that in the show, Adam. That was just too good of wordplay on your part. Ooh, really connected on that one. All right, they are looking at this shit. They get word over the radio that there's been a bad cave in down on the planet and data is like suicide mission. I'm on my way. Not only that, I'm bringing the oldest person
Starting point is 00:41:23 on the ship with me. I'm staying inside way. Not only that, I'm bringing the oldest person on the ship with me. I'm bringing my mom. Stand aside, able bodied. So, yeah, data in his mom show up in the transporter room. And Dr. Pran, her husband, is coming off of the transporter pad with a buddy. And they're both like pretty shaken up because there was a cave in and data
Starting point is 00:41:47 and Dr. Julian beamed down. They find one of the, one of the jumbo crayons has been knocked over in this retread cave that they've been down to. And they have to use red crayons when they're inside the core as opposed to the blue crayons when they're on the surface. Yeah, yeah. Like it goes from like blue and then there's like yellow and then as you get closer and closer to the core you go like a burnt
Starting point is 00:42:14 sienna to red. See my my reference was a rectal thermometry joke. Not sure if you got that band. Red is for butts. Now. Mom, I treat you to a joke. That's sure if you got that, Ben. Red is for butt. No? No. Man, I didn't even know how deep we could go. Ha, ha, ha.
Starting point is 00:42:36 She'll fly apart, Ben. Fly apart, Ben. Ha, ha, ha. They get the plasma inductor back going and they're they got a run back to the crayons to beam out and they're running and the part of the cave that they have to run through his collapse and it's just a big drop off before they could get to the crayons. And Dr. Chili is like, we would never survive this jump and data is like, I bet we fucking can. And so he grabs her by the arm and forces is like, I bet we fucking can.
Starting point is 00:43:05 And so he grabs her by the arm and forces her to jump off the ledge with him. We're going to have to jump. Oh, it's too far. I won't make it. You will. Oh, no. They sort of, Delma and old Louise this.
Starting point is 00:43:20 Ha, ha, ha, ha. Yeah, and that's the end of the episode. Have we seen data gather someone in his arms and jump off of a cliff before? I feel like this is a thing that he's done. Did he take somebody up in his arms one time and do a big jump? I can't remember. There was that episode where pipes and Beverly were down in a cave and data jumped down to join them.
Starting point is 00:43:49 Was that the Hadoopapa 607 episode? It was, he's only ever soloed the cliff jump. He is not tandem cliff jumped before, like he did here. Yeah, so he jumps down and he lands on his feet and then he turns around and Dr. Julia is lying in a couple of pieces on the floor. But we see that there are LED lights blinking where Gorsh would be. Yeah, she's made of Christmas lights. You don't know it, but you are full of stars.
Starting point is 00:44:23 Her husband doesn't know he's been married to a real Dalbin. Ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha I think you'll find her, for similitude, to be quite extraordinary. She is very convincing. Perhaps, match only by Rashad in terms of workmanship. I think you'll begin to notice that my best work has been the old Realdar, a holy on subsidiary of Kevin outspread Reel Doge Inc. She sweats like an old person. She has gray hair like an old person. She gets tired like an old person. When you're using a real doll for all of the various things you might use it for, if
Starting point is 00:45:20 it breaks out in a sweat, it's just a reassuring thing to see. He really adds to the realism of the experience. And that's something we're very proud of over here at Oxbridge Old Reel Dolls Incorporated. Sweat reassurance. That's the Oxbridge Reel, that's the, that's the, that's the, that's the, that's the, that's the, that's the, that's the, that's the, that's the, that's the, that's the, that's the, that's the, that's the, that's the, that's the, that's the, that's the, that's the, that's the, that's the, that's the, that's the, that's the, that's the, that's the, that's the, that's the, that's the, that's the, that's the, that's the, that's the, that's the, that's the, that's the, that's the, that's the, that's the, that's the, that's the, that's the, that's the, that's the, that's the, that's the, that's the, that's the, that's the, that's the, that's the, that's the, that's the, that's the, that's the, that's the, that's the, that's the, that's the, that's the, that's the, that's the, that's the, that's the, that's the, that's the, that's the, that's the, that's the, that's the, that's the, that's the, that's the, that's the, that's the, that's the, that's the, that's the, that's the, that's the, that's the, that's the, that's the, that's the, that's the, that's the, that's the, that's the, that's the, that's the, that's the, that's the, that's the, that's the, that's the, that's the, that's the, that's the, that's the, that's the, that's the, that's the, that's the, that's the, that's the, that's the, that's the, that's the, complain about our real-dose ability to sweat. We have answered their coach. This is a moment of inflection for data, right? His mom's on the biobad, she's clearly a robot person. Jority and the doctor are nerding out over her.
Starting point is 00:46:27 They've got the hood up. They're like holy shit, like she can cry. She can sweat. Like she can secrete. Is way better than you, data. Basically the most impressive thing is her ability to produce fluid. I was thinking about this, Ben, like, if you were a robot, and you didn't know it
Starting point is 00:46:50 you must poop right? You must poop and pee. So like she's eating and producing scat. That's incredible. Yeah that's like that uh that big art installation, the cloaca. Do you know about that thing? No. I thought this is a bit. There's this art installation. I think it's in Europe somewhere, and it's called the cloaca,
Starting point is 00:47:17 and it's like a huge, huge, huge machine that fills up an entire room, and it turns like a huge, huge, huge machine that fills up an entire room, and it turns food into poop. Whoa. I could do that. Yeah, that's like the apotheosis of art I can do. That's, what country is this? I'm gonna guess Germany.
Starting point is 00:47:45 Please say Germany. You must seize the Shiesen button. It's even more German than that, Adam. It's a Flemish Belgian. Neo-conceptualist artist named Vindelvoi. The only thing more German than German is Flemish Belgian. I've always said that. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:48:07 I think we've really gone everywhere this episode been. It's been a journey. So it's like decision time, right? Because they get around the McLaughlin group and they're like, we've got a woman in Six Bay who doesn't know she's a robot. Should you tell her? And Data's like, well, I'm sort of of two minds on this. Like, if I told her she was a robot,
Starting point is 00:48:26 I wouldn't be alone anymore. Then we would be like, mother son, mother-boying it around, like mother-bodding it is what they'd be doing. They, he wouldn't be alone in the universe anymore. It'd be great. But then, joy is like- Is this before after he talks to soon hologram?
Starting point is 00:48:43 I think soon hologram happens after. But I'm not sure, and I'm not sure it matters sequentially. Yeah, because data talks to a soon hologram that's like, they find like a chip in, I think the hologram happens first. They find the chip in her head and data runs to the to the holiday and boots it up and and soon is like, Hey, data, like this is great. I recorded like a couple of different messages, but I'm super glad that it's you that found your mom. So here's the deal. She is a robot, but she's based on your real mom. And when she died, I downloaded her consciousness
Starting point is 00:49:27 and put it into this robot, and she is gonna age out like she would have if she had not died. He's like here, watch this weird Johnny Depp movie that really turned out awfully, like, watch this terrible Johnny Depp movie. That'll basically bring you up to speed on what I did here. It's a little bit Jack Crusher vibes, isn't it?
Starting point is 00:49:48 It is a little bit Jack Crusher vibes. It's Jack Crusher vibes combined with Bad Johnny Depp movie where like a weird portion of it is about buying up a small town and doing a lot of construction there. You're listening to the greatest generation, the foremost transcendence greatest generation podcast. No one's done that before, Ben. You mean made a transcendence podcast? Yeah, we've really cornered the market on transcendence podcasts. As we've wandered through the valley of the shadow of the greatest generation, I keep thinking about how you make another greatest generation movie with the cast as old as they are. And I feel like this unlocks it. Been the idea that soon made a robot that could age naturally makes me feel like this is how
Starting point is 00:50:47 you get the crew back. Like everyone else is old. The problem was Brent Spiner. How do you account for his aging? What if data and I guess the B4, like what if the B4 was booted up with this aging program? Then, data could join the rest of the crew. Then, we'd have a new next-gen movie. Yeah, so CBS, like, get your buddies band and add them on the phone, and let's talk about something.
Starting point is 00:51:15 I'm ready to make a movie band. I'm ready to get in your little pocket. If it means co-writing and co-directing a movie. If it means co-writing and co-directing a movie. If it means having final cut on a very valuable science fiction franchise. Yeah. If it means we get to hang out with Lavar Burton one more time. Lavar Burton and us are total buds. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:51:38 He'll vouch for us. Ask Lavar. He probably vaguely remembers coming on this show. It was in no way a junket for him. So Troy is writing for the act of cruelty position. She's like, look, if you think you've been a person for your entire life and then you're told you're a robot, that could have some consequences that you don't predict. Maybe that would be a cruel thing. Maybe you don't do that. So you sort of pulled in a couple directions. Yeah, you're taking away from her, the thing you always want.
Starting point is 00:52:16 Yeah, and that summary of the issue was, I thought that was especially deft. That was a treasure. A lawyer, man. Yeah. she lawyers data here big time she lawyers in big time and but card just kind of plays the like cool dad that's like hey like you put your foot in it and it's gonna be tough but you just got to figure it out and we're gonna support you yeah yeah so the button on the episode is data like folds his mom's forehead shut after putting the chip back in. Wakes her up and she... She believes that she fell off the cliff and broke her arm.
Starting point is 00:52:59 She broke a bone in her arm specifically, and that's how you know, Data's not ready to tell her that she's a robot. He walks her to the transporter pad. He has a goodbye befitting of that has the right amount of emotion between a robot son and a robot mom who thinks that she's human. Yeah. And that's it. My question to you is, why does she go home? What's waiting for her on Altraya? Like, oh she's got that husband. Yeah, but he's like, he's got like whole cauliflower ear. It's a little like a little bit of a weirdo. Like if you just found your son after forever and you just made up with him, I thought she would have rode harder
Starting point is 00:53:48 for hanging out in the ship a little longer. I guess it's just the promise that he'll come see her the next time he has some vacation hours built up. Yeah, yeah, and we'll definitely get that. Definitely, next season. Yeah. Did you like this episode, Ben? I really did. I think that there's like a couple of plot holes that you just have to look past. But I think it's a fun little exploration of the of the data timeline. And a really cool idea that it really like plays with the idea of like trust and
Starting point is 00:54:31 affection because she's asking him to trust her on like kind of a whopper of a thing early in this episode and his gut is not to until he can find some kind of corroborating information. But you're also like, you're also forced as a viewer to wonder like, what is in it for her if she's like playing some game with them? Like is she really something else and like just trying to get in with data because of what data is. Is she some crazy that that read about data and is like trying to get close to him? It's like a super fan.
Starting point is 00:55:12 Yeah. And it's written with that, like, like, pregnant with all of those possibilities. And it really does a great job of kind of like taking a bunch of fun headcanon about like how data got from being a newly built Android on Omicron Theta to here and like how she got to meet up with him and like intertwining those threads with all of these emotional failences and making a great story out of it. I think it's a really strong episode. I think so too for as many reasons as we see an experience for the episode,
Starting point is 00:55:52 and also as many as we don't see and have to sort of head cannon like. Pran is married to a real doll. And the entire McLaughlin group is like, should we tell Juliana that she's real, that she's a human or that she's a robot. But no one thinks that no one, no one debates whether or not to tell Pran. Like, and shouldn't that be part of the conversation? Does Pran deserve to know? Dear Savage Love, I recently found out that a friend of mine is dating a real doll. He doesn't know and I am wondering if I should tell him or not. Thanks.
Starting point is 00:56:38 Dear Penthouse Forum. My wife and I are both in our 60s and she is still insatiable and I mean literally insatiable I never thought I'd be writing into Penthouse for him I feel like I'm in a lot of trouble right now because because I cannot quench her sexual thirst even 24th century boner pills. Do your pen have some more? Do not give me enough stamina. I'm so tired. I'm just so tired. Help me sleep.
Starting point is 00:57:15 Yeah, like no one looks out for pran. And I feel like that is the missing link in this episode, right? Like that's the thread that is untied. Is what happens to him? To the degree that Juliana beams down by yourself. Like they just totally prans and afterthought here. Isn't afterthought I almost like wonder why they felt the need to include him as a character. Like what is he doing to drive the story forward? There was next to nothing for him to do.
Starting point is 00:57:43 Where they just like okay like all we have is a couple of scenes on the ship and like one One scene and a fucking Styrofoam cave We need to add like a character to make it seem like we spent any money on this episode Freaks it's like look you could pay another guest star or You could just roll that into one of my episodes. What do you say? or you could just roll that into one of my episodes. What do you say? What do you say? Yeah.
Starting point is 00:58:08 Yeah, I don't really get his reason for being. In a way, and I only say that because I feel like he could have a very real reason for being. Right, yeah, he's not even in the last scene where she beams down. It's like, because he beamed down already or what? I don't know. I don't know.
Starting point is 00:58:29 Like, what if he was a robot too? You get the sense that you don't really know how many of these there are out there. Because maybe Juliana has been programmed to know a certain thing that isn't the truth also. Like in the same way that data only knows some of the truth. Like maybe soon made a whole fleet of these things and we can never know how many there are.
Starting point is 00:58:53 Maybe soon sent us a priority one message and we just need to check it. All right, I think we should check it. Priority one message from Starfleet coming in on Secured Channel. Need a supplement on? A supplement on? A supplement. A supplement.
Starting point is 00:59:09 Yes, extra. But the interest alone could be enough to buy this ship! Adam, we have a couple of priority one messages here. And the first one is a commercial message. Whoa! It goes like this. Pro wrestling that way it's supposed to be. The West Coast Wrestling Connection, out of Portland, Oregon, brings you some of the
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Starting point is 01:00:10 This fucking great! This is like real legit wrestling in a real legit ring. Really? Yeah, it looks great. Oh, they've got like, entrances and entrance music and like, faces and heels and bits and oh this is great uh are they doing like um is it like backyard wrestling or is it like higher level than that this looks like it's in a in like a building like in what looks smaller than a basketball arena, like, but like way bigger than a, like a hotel conference room, it's not like, it's hard to describe,
Starting point is 01:00:51 it looks like there's hundreds of people here. Man. This is a legit amount of production. It looks like it's in like a room the size of a trade center, like a con size room. Cool. Wow, you know Portland is just down the road for me basically. I want to check this out. Yeah.
Starting point is 01:01:09 There's no reason you shouldn't drive three hours to go check out the WCWC. And if you're further afield, you can follow it on social media. Awesome, thanks guys. Thanks for hipping me to something new to do in Portland. Yeah. Awesome, thanks guys. Thanks for hipping me to something new to do in Portland. Yeah. Ben, our second priority message is of a personal nature. It is from Lauren, it is for Gina, and it is not about wrestling. The parenthetical is Kevin Voice. So here he goes. Gina Lauren wants me to tell you that you died in the terrible accident eight years ago. The good news is you're one of my fine real-dare products.
Starting point is 01:01:55 Oh no! The Gina model prototype is one of the most advanced in my line and comes equipped with the ability to add numerous attachments of various tapes. Congrats on your death. You've just been real-dilled. Very timely. Wow! Good job Lauren for choosing the Uxbridge-centric episode. Yeah. I think so. Yeah.
Starting point is 01:02:43 That sounds less cool. I'm down to be a fuck toy for eternity. Like that. That sounds less cool. To be clear. Fuck that would be a fuck toy. It's not like you can feel it. Well, congratulations to Gina. Great message by Lauren. If you have a priority on message of either the commercial or the personal nature, you can take it on over to Maximonfund.org slash Jumbo Tron where we will read your message in or out of character for the low low price of $100 for personal messages and $200 for commercial messages. Ben, what is this? But a great great way to support the ongoing production of our show.
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Starting point is 01:04:19 We were open awesome guests and bring them down to our level. We got stupid with Judy Greer. My friend Molly and I call it having the spaceweirds. Pat Noswald. Could I get a Balrog burger and some air-gorn fries? Thank you. And Kumail Nanjiani. I've come back with cat toothbrushes, which is impossible to use.
Starting point is 01:04:37 Come get stupider with us at MaximumFun.org. Look, your podcast apps are already open. Just pull it out. Give Jordan Jesse Goatry. Being smart is hard, be dumb instead. Oh, rats, hey, hey, oh, I'm about to count you in mine. These clouds are really freaking me out. I hate having to stand in line and boy, what do I, these giraffes do not smell good.
Starting point is 01:04:59 No, they do not and they have such short nacks. But I'm hearing we need to get on this. We've got to get on the art. It is about terrain, about a spout to destroy humanity. Hey, oh, sorry, sorry, sorry. Are you Noah? Yeah, I know we look like humans.
Starting point is 01:05:11 We're actually, we're podcasters. We are podcasters, so it's different. Have you heard of Ono Ross and Kerry? We investigate spirituality, claims of the paranormal, stuff like that. And you have a boat and say the world's gonna end, so seem like something for us to check out. We would love to be on the boats.
Starting point is 01:05:25 We came two by two. What do you think? Ona Ross & Kerry, available on doll, or is synthetic. I got to give it to Dr. Julianna Tainer. I think that the thing that is silliest about this character is the fact that she's gone as many years, like decades as she's gone, without reaching out to data in any way. Yeah. That doesn't matter. Like, come on, like you only live once
Starting point is 01:06:08 It's such a charmota move not to not to have a connection with your progeny and Yet been like family assrangements happen Yeah, there are There are there are times in my own family when I go longer than I would like without communicating with some or all of them. So like it sucks, you get into a pattern and that pattern continues and it's hard to bust out of it. So I get it but I don't get it. Yeah, like I think that in general, family estrangement is something that we all experience to a greater or lesser extent. Like there's always people in your family
Starting point is 01:06:54 that are really hard to get along with. And I think that it's like valuable to push past that. And the idea of just kind of like quietly going into the night without ever reaching out to your son and only ever connecting with him because your planet got really constipated is pretty sad. Yeah. The mother has to be the bigger person, right? You can't expect data to make an emotional decision.
Starting point is 01:07:27 Well, data also didn't know of her existence. It's only up to the mom. Like, it's not gonna happen if the mom doesn't do it. Like, usually in matters of family, a strangement there is some shared responsibility, but in this case, it's just Juliana. Did you have a drunk swim out Adam? I did, Ben.
Starting point is 01:07:47 I really, really did. Ask any performer or standup comic or improv person who the worst person in a crowd is, and they're gonna tell you. They're gonna say birthday party or bachelor at party, like, because these are the people who don't go out to show is very much. They don't get the social cues.
Starting point is 01:08:11 They don't understand how to act in public. During the mother boy recital in 10 forward, there is clearly a person wearing a birthday hat on the right side of the frame. I don't have the timecode on this, but there is a person like third or second row on the right who has got like a yellow birthday cap. And I'm just like, you do not want to go to the emotionally fraught mother son recital. If you're not used to going to recitals, that's a bad place for a bachelor at party. It's a bad place for birthday parties.
Starting point is 01:08:52 This is my night. Right. You guys are playing too loud. Always the bridezilla, never the bridezuki. Yeah, so my Shimoda is birthday party lady. Hey, why don't you take it to the holiday where you belong? Why don't you walk down the hallway, get on the turbo lift, to decade, get into the holiday where you belong?
Starting point is 01:09:24 They don't have a birthday party program on that holiday extort! Yeah. Ben, what are we have coming up on the next episode? The next episode is season seven, episode 11 parallels. Returning to the entrepreneur from a competition, returns to the entrepreneur from a competition. Worth finds reality changing and is troubled when no one else seems to notice. Do you remember this episode, Adam? Band, there are two episodes worth watching in season seven.
Starting point is 01:09:58 It's parallels and it's all good things. This is on my mountain. I love this episode. You didn't think the episode we just watched was worth watching? I believe it was worth watching, but it didn't go on my mountain. Okay, so you're using hyperbole, and I just want to call attention to that. Well, thank you for calling attention to that, Ben. There's only room enough on the mountain for a couple of episodes. And in season seven seven this is it.
Starting point is 01:10:26 I fucking love this episode. I rewatch it all the time. It's a good one. So one of the rare warfepa so that's not all about his family history. Like let's give Warf a bottle episode where he's just being warf. How about that? It works. I'm excited to see it again and to talk about it. Okay, let's talk about it. Sometimes soon Adam. Ben. Sometimes soon I hope people talk about this very episode. You can do that in a number of places like on Twitter using the hashtag greatest gen. We also have places to discuss on Reddit and Facebook. You know what those places are.
Starting point is 01:11:05 I don't even need to tell you. We've got groups, pages, R-slash, maximum fun, R-slash, greatest gin. You've got the wikia, if you need to get caught up on any of the deep, deep inside jokes. Come out and see us live on tour. We should thank Dark Materia for our theme music tour we should thank dark material for our theme music and Adam Ragusia for our other music can't believe the tours next
Starting point is 01:11:30 week been I am excited but like the nervous kind of excitement that Owen Wilson talks about in Armageddon when he's getting strapped into the spacecraft like Like, it's gonna be good. Yeah. God, a fucking love-o and Wilson. He too. With that, we'll be back at you next week with another great episode of Star Trek, The Next Generation. An episode of the greatest generation where you get a little fainty and then you open your eyes and Adam is over there and I'm over here. Make it so. That's it, you'll lose the car of the youth. That's it, that's right.
Starting point is 01:12:26 That's it, you'll lose the car of the youth. That's it, that's right. Make it so, that's right. Make it so. You'll lose the car of the car of the car of the car of the car. Only Ben would be overheard flaming his juniper berries when just after saying that he's going to go make another cocktail. Like you can't even call it pretentious, right? It's just a man making a really great cocktail for himself.
Starting point is 01:13:05 I don't think there's anything wrong with that. Maximumfund.org Comedy and Culture, Artist-owned Listener-supported

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