The Greatest Generation - The Turd of an Unknown (VOY S7E2)

Episode Date: November 27, 2023

When the li’lest Borgs leave Voyager for good, Icheb stays aboard to try to Wesley Crusher his way onto the bridge. But when Seven’s cortical node goes on the fritz, her pupil ends up on the trolly tracks where a sacrifice is the only way to save her life. Which body part is the most problematic for gash? What do screenwriting manuals say about Icheb’s brother? How many iPads does it take to make a point? It’s the episode with a very specific tear dangle!Support the production of The Greatest Generation.Friends of DeSoto for Democracy.Friends of DeSoto for Justice. Friends of DeSoto for Labor.Follow The Game of Buttholes: The Will of the Caretaker!Music by Adam Ragusea & Dark MateriaFollow The Greatest Generation on Twitter, and discuss the show using the hashtag #GreatestGen!The Greatest Generation is on YouTube.Facebook group | Subreddit | Discord | WikiSign up for our mailing list!Get a thing at podshop.biz!

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strength from the sharing. GreatestgenTour.com. Here's to the finest crew in Starfleet. Engage! Watch your bad shot. Hello. I'm Captain Captain Brindin, one of the U.S. Boardhead, Dr. Captain Captain, Captain Brindin, one of the U.S. Boardhead, two of Captain. Welcome to the greatest generation. It's a Star Trek It says 4th, 10th, 10th, 10th, 10th, 10th, 10th, 10th, 10th, 10th, 10th, 10th, 10th, 10th, 10th, 10th, 10th, 10th, 10th, 10th, 10th, 10th, 10th, 10th, 10th, 10th, 10th, 10th, 10th, 10th, 10th, 10th, 10th, 10th, 10th, 10th, 10th, 10th, 10th, 10th, 10th, 10th, 10th, 10th, 10th, 10th, 10th, 10th, 10th, 10th, 10th, 10th, 10th, 10th, 10th, 10th, 10th, 10th, 10th, 10th, 10th, 10th, 10th, 10th, 10th, 10th, 10th, 10th, 10th, 10th, 10th, 10th, 10th, 10th, 10th, 10th, 10th, 10th, 10th, 10th, 10th, 10th, 10th, 10th, 10th, 10th, 10th, 10th, 10th, 10th, 10th, 10th, 10th, 10th, 10th, 10th, 10th, 10th, 10th, 10th, 10th, 10th, 10th, 10th, 10th, 10th, 10th, 10th, 10th, 10th, 10th, 10th, 10th, 10th, 10th, 10th, 10th, 10th, 10th, 10th, 10th, 10th, 10th, 10th, 10th, 10th, 10th, 10th, 10th, 10th, 10th, 10th, 10th, 10th, 10th, 10th, 10th, 10th, 10th, 10th, 10th, 10th, 10 episode 10 of season four of Lower Decks for our smash hit, New Star Trek podcast, greatest trek. Mm-hmm. And something happened while we were talking

where you were making finger flexions on screen. Clotation fingers? Yeah, and it caused confetti to rain down on your side of the video chat. We're using, we just use the built-in video chatting feature in Slack, not because it's good, because it is probably the worst video chat I think I've ever used.

Yeah, it's stable. It's really early reason for using it, right? And I guess we already pay for Slack. So. We already pay for Slack. It's like one less thing to remember to open before you record. Yeah. But this is something that's happening at the system level. We looked it up in between records.

And this is something that's built into the Macintosh computers now, apparently. This isn't a Slack thing. It's an Apple computers thing? Yeah, the article I found is on the Applecomputers.com website. What? Yeah. So like whenever your webcam is doing anything, I guess it can just, if you give a thumbs up or a down. Lord, quotation figures. So your computer is watching and interpreting that. Benjamin, what the doctor told me about your father's condition was, quote, unquote,

extremely dire. Why is the confetti raining on me? What the doctor said of that true grandparents after the accident was mostly negative. Thumbs down, weird balloon in place. It's raining now. Why are there fireworks going off behind you. And the devil's horns looked like this. Laser effect behind you. The family's all on the same page, which is with splitting the cost of the funeral, double thumbs up emoji fireworks displayed. Apple computer company, do you feel like there I'm not a real man. I'm a real man. I'm a real man. I'm a real man. I'm a real man. I'm a real man.

I'm a real man. I'm a real man. I'm a real man. I'm a real man. I'm a real man. I'm a real man. I'm a real man. I'm a real man.

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I'm a real man. I'm a real man. I'm a real man. I'm a real man. I'm a real man. I'm a real man.org for a long time. I remember. It sounds like a joke, right? It sounds like a dunk. Yeah, no, but it's real. Yeah. I remember a social media post he did a long time ago

when Apple changed the gun emoji from like a realistic looking revolver to a realistic looking water pistol. Uh-huh. And he noted that like if you're sending a text to somebody that's not on an Apple device, it's gonna represent as the revolver still,

because everybody else is still using, like the gun emoji is the weapon on everybody else's, and it's the toy on Apple. So... When was the last time you texted with someone not on an Apple device, though? I try not to, but the point of his post was like sending the text like, Hey, want to meet up at the park?

Gun emoji is going to mean two different things on two different devices, like water gun fight or I want to fucking kill you. And I feel like this is like the, this is the thing that they're running into here. Look, I like Jeremy personally, and I appreciate his work. However, there is no conversation in recorded text history between two adults where one of them proposes a water gun fight in the park.

That's just making shit up that's never happened and never will happen. Okay. So, uh, so what did you just do at the beginning of this podcast coming up with all these scenarios where the diagnosis is quote unquote? Oh, people are diagnosed with terrible things all the time. Oh my God, that's kind of what this episode is about, isn't it? It is. I think I had it on the mind.

Yeah, we're pivoting right in. It's season seven episode two, imperfection. Reaver course. Unless you've got something a little bigger in your torpedo toots, I'm not turning around. Oh. Our cold open features a bottle opener class starship off the bow of Voyager and I really like the look of this ship.

Everyone on Voyager pretty sad to see the four littlest borgs go except for each staying, Miss Adi and the two twins are going. You can still come with us. And you can still stay on Voyager. Hey, Egypt! You're not going to leave me here, are you? I will have no one to talk to. And by talk to, I mean yell from a very great distance. Hey, sure is lonely here in this corner of the cargo bay that's on the opposite side from where you are. And if you're gone, it'll be all the lonelayer. Just me and the squeegee. I won't have a reason to live. Ortop. And by talk I again, yell from a great distance.

I am very sad. Two thumbs on the side of my face. We're a drain storm happening. Mizzotti is going to live with the wizonti. I was shocked by this. Givanti Mivantia breakey. That's nice. That's good.

All the little hug seven goodbye individually. And Janeway once they're gone, give seven a little extra affection, not knowing at all how psyched she has to be about getting out of the babysitting business in this moment, right? This is great for seven. Her plate is three quarters as heavy with tasks that she doesn't want to do. three quarters is heavy with tasks that she doesn't want to do. How do you think, like, this isn't quitting a job, this isn't getting fired, but this is something like that for seven.

Yeah. All these kids leaving? What a relief, either way. It's great. She takes a walk down the corridor, and she's like, rared to, you know, hey, like, I mean, she's basically Adam Pranick and getting home from a trip. She's like, all right,, you know, hey, like, I mean, she's basically Adam Pranick and getting home from a trip.

She's like, all right, let's unpack the suitcase right now. Like, I don't want any evidence that those kids were ever here to remind me of the fact that I used to have to do that. Seven tells each of that the place where their outcomes are could be a great craft space or a workout room or maybe like a golf simulator. Hey, baby, I could come set my stuff up over there.

Do you think there's room for like a regular bed? It's pretty lonely again over here. Seven starts crying at even the thought of this. Or is it just allergies? Who knows. She's a heap, and that's how we cut to our title sequence. And when we come back, she's in Six Bay getting a diagnostic and swearing up and down that in this moment,

she was in complete control of her emotions. Like, the EMH just trying to heap sympathy on her. He's like, oh, yeah, like like I cried at an opera one time. And seven is like, this is nothing like that. There's story after story. It's like just a stupid part of modern life where like the women in our lives, in our culture, they go to doctors.

And I think this is the fact, right? Like women seem to get insufficient care from the medical community for whatever reason. Like their pain is not believed many times. It really sucks. But in this case, I feel like there's a version of that happening to seven because every fucking time seven goes in to see the doctor. The doctor is excited about what's wrong with her, and that has to be so aggravating. Yeah. Oh, how interesting that this is happening to you, and he's like, fascinating. Tell me more. Have you experienced any other malfunctions lately? Hitting, dizzy, this diminished motor function? No.

Really? Yeah, like that's a version of how crazy making that has to feel. It's exhausting for her. Yeah. Like, no wonder she hasn't reported this to him, you know? He's like admonishing her for keeping... Yeah, for you. Yeah, for keeping. Like, what about what you're doing would make anyone have any incentive to tell you anything, E.M.H?

I recently found myself a new doctor. I haven't had a doctor since moving to LA. Finally found one. Did the like first checkup and stuff. Oh yeah. And now I'm looking forward to not really seeing this person again very much over the next few years. And that is just like my neutral feeling about a good and competent doctor. Imagine seven knowing knowing the doctors, the only fucking game in town. You cannot get a referral to another doctor. You think Paris is gonna be any better?

Paris sucks. No way. I always see like, you know, like a curb your enthusiasm. Larry always has like a personal relationship with his doctor. I've never had a doctor that remembered me, you know? Oh man, that's fucking sad. I'm not especially convinced that my doctor, my old doctor remembered me, but I love that he

acted like he did. You know, like there's always that moment before your appointment. You show up on time, the doctor finally gets to the exam room 25 minutes later. You know what they're doing for those 25 minutes? Looking up what your fucking name is and reading your file and coming in with like one piece of biographical information. That's probably just a note that they put in the file, right? That's why they wouldn't let Elaine get it in that episode of Seinfeld.

They don't want us to know the, the, the risk that they have because there's no fucking way they can remember all their patient. I noticed that someone wrote in my chart that I was difficult in January of 92. They're like tax documents. You don't want anyone to see them. Hey, I had an idea about the, the doctor.

Mm-hmm. A name for the doctor that I feel like it's been right under our nose the entire time, but, but, there's never been tossed out as an option. I'm like it's been right under our nose the entire time, but there's never been tossed out as an option. I'm excited to hear it. Mark. Oh, hi, Mark. As in Mark one. Yeah. I love this. I mean, when was the first moment we learned that he was a Mark one? It has to have been that episode where he goes and meets Andy Dick, but the other thing I was thinking of was for our purposes on the greatest generation,

our first encounter with Dr. Zimmerman was in deep space nine, and he was working on the Mark II of the emergency medical hologram. I don't know. Yeah. I guess we reviewed first contact, and the Mark I is in that, but I don't think that he's really on screen long enough for anyone to say that he's a Mark anything. I really love this moment in the show.

We named him. He couldn't name himself, so we did it. 20 years later, we came up with a name. So that I wanted to call the doctor. Now I will have to call him Mark. So Dr. Mark runs a couple of tests. The results are back. It's a malfunction. What's going on? I love that seven stuck up for herself. She didn't take, you were just crying for an answer. She put some unblast and he has to correct himself.

I think he should be a little bit more apologetic about this. Like, God, I'm so sorry that I was doing that to you. Also, the revelation that all of her doctor's visits, all of the health records of seven of nine have been shared with the captain. She wants that to stop here now. Yeah. I think that's fair, right?

I can institute a new drone hippopolicy going forward. Do not report this to the captain, please. Do you think zoologists who take privacy with their patients very seriously would call it a hip a pot of hip a he he he pop anonymous hip a pop a pot of this policy. I just ran right into the pommel horse there. And then I got up and ran into it again. Hippopotapop.

Hippopotapotomus. Policy. Do you think that a board game designer that takes the secrecy of their games very seriously would call it a hungry hungry hungry hippopotamus policy. I love Fertz. Yes. This is a good chance at least, right?

David Casby knows how to get ahold of us. Of course, it's locked in. This one didn't make any careful, because I'm only going to say this once. to get ahold of us. Seven walks into the ass lab where each web is quickly changing tabs on his computer and she doesn't ask a lot of questions. Apparently this is affecting her visual acuity, whatever is happening. He's, you know, tries to play it off like he's just studying atro-mastrix, like he's supposed to be, but it comes up what he has in mind.

He would like to enhance his contribution to the ship. He'd like maybe to not be stuck in the ass lamb all the time and get to do some stuff on the bridge. He kind of wants to westerly crush her. I don't know, man. I don't like how deceptive he's being up top. You're not going to be able to have your spicy website open if you're working on the bridge. That's a big open workspace with a lot of people, a lot of eyeballs in it, you know?

You know what? A couple of bridge stations. It's probably possible at two-vac station and Harry Kim station. This is something that whenever I was working in a cubicle-based environment, I always really wanted my computer not to face the entrance to the cubicle. Not because I was fucking off all the time

or because I was looking at porn at work, because I wasn't. We should be able to look at a little porn at work. I just wanted some fucking shred of privacy in a cubicle farm. Yeah, it's a very unnerving environment to work in in a cubicle because you just like, you fire up Facebook for 35 seconds

and somebody is guaranteed to walk in and drop a report off on your desk and be like, oh, every fucking time. Not in the Excel spreadsheet, are we? It seems like each of interests are pure. Like he just wants to do more. Maybe he's a little bored and unchallenged. But what's weird about this moment

is how unenthusiastic seven is. I would say her encouragement is kind of mid. Hmm. Your plan is ambitious. Then you think it's a good idea. Do you think seven's like, God, it was so great getting rid of the rest of the littlest borrugs. Now, fucking stuck with each chip. Like, God damn it. Is it always gonna be like this?

And me, I'm also still here, over on the other side of the ass lab. Did you know that there's so much to squeegee in here? Why did you guys design it this way? If I could just give a note about your design, more slopes would really help me out. Not encouraging. Almost as discouraging as seven is about Echib's career aspirations are those burbles

under the skin of her hand. And she gets out of there pretty fast. Yeah, she should maybe like see a dermatologist about that. I don't think Dr. Mark is gonna help with a subcutaneous cyst like that. Yeah, that's a moving target if you're trying to lance that thing. Drop in the pin and it's just missing. It's bobbin and weave. That's painful. Back in the in the Cargabay alcove, seven wants to regenerate. That's how she treats

Alcove seven wants to regenerate. That's how she treats her burbly hand situation, but the interface is incompatible. She's getting up in there. She's trying to jack in, can't do it. She's asking the computer, what for? What mean? And it's not the interface's fault. It's the fault of recordical node.

The recordical node is faulty. So we cut to Neelix's restaurant where Seven's been up all night drinking milkshakes and Neelix walks in, it's 5 a.m. And he's like, oh, you've been drinking milkshakes all night? Let me fix you something. She's like, no, I'm quite full. I've had 40,000 calories in milkshakes.

I'm gonna be fine. I've had 40,000 calories in milkshakes. I'm going to be fine. I really love the straight line that this scene draws between like regeneration is for energy and seven of nine pounding weeder power gain protein shake. Like in the night, in order to like get that energy is great. It's a good hack. What I don't like is that it reads as milk. Like because initially I was like, God, she's really drinking a lot of warm milk to try to go to bed.

Like that's disgusting. Yeah. I wish it was a different color. The special effect when she pitches over and falls on the floor and like her skin opens up and there's machine under it is really great. And I thought the camera work in the scene

was also really great. The way the camera kind of sinks to the floor as Nelik runs around the bar to come to her side as she starts seizing, it's a really dynamic shot and it's really intense and hits all the harder for that camera work. Are you clear on how many borg's parts remain in Seven because when these things open up under skin it seems like there's a lot. Yeah

Like our whole cheek is made out of borgs. Yeah She's like a T1000 under all that skin living this show of a metal endoskeleton. So in six bay Seven is is covered with these Halloween costume wounds, with the spirit gum. Yeah. And it is unfortunately clear in the scene how much spirit gum is being used. Yeah. The makeup department definitely missed on a couple of these. It's challenging.

Like the neck has got to be the toughest part for this, right? Yeah, because it just moves so much. Her costume, like, is very form-fitting, but it's not showing much skin ever, so there's just not much of her skin to apply this effect to, I guess. Ben, the problem with gash Is that little gash no good? Like it doesn't look real what you need is like big horror movie style across the neck Gash to like really read properly. I think that's the problem here that That it's so small, like I think that just kind of gives it away. She comes to and Dr. Mark and the captain explain

that her cortical node is failing and she's gonna die and she's like, no, I'm not gonna die. My node will repair itself. Jane, Janeway goes up to seven and holds two thumbs down in front of her. And it starts raining in six bay. The doctor mark is like, no, you're getting all my stuff wet. Come on, don't do that. I think part of what really helps this scene, and we've seen this a bunch in Star Trek

over the years, is that fallen samurai hair. I love it as code for sick or dying person. It's great. They can't replicate their way out of this problem because a cortical node is too complicated to replicate. And Janeway is not taking no for an answer. There's coffee in that new cortical node. She goes up to the bridge and starts talking to Harry Kim about a field of Borg's debris that they passed a few days ago and Chico Te is like, hi, I know I don't have a lot to do on this show but going and looking for the Borg seems like a bad idea, right? Like we don't do that every day, and she's like, have you watched the last several episodes?

We do that literally every day. We just did that! So she's pitching this as a solo Delta Flyer mission. She's gonna go get a cortical node, bring it back here, save seven's life, nobody but hers is being put at risk. The pace of the dialogue here in bulking up the backstory is really brisk because the moment the flyers brought up is like, uh, yeah! And then the show interrupts to say, we

rebuild the Delta flyer to five. Yeah, no life. And Paris's main beef is like, I don't want to rebuild that thing again. I just did it in between the last episode and this one. Yeah. I'm sick and tired of it. So Paris and Tuva kind of invite themselves along on this mission. More out of concern for the Delta Flyer

than for the Captain or Seven, I think. It really seems that way. Yeah. In the corridor, there is a very uncomfortable moment between each of and Janeway, right? Because each of's like, hey, have you tacked a seven? Ooh, each of, I would not bring this up right now. I mean, I'm not positive.

I overheard what I overheard because I was quite far away from the people talking, but I don't think that that's been brought up to the Janeway just yet due to reasons. I love the like any screenwriting manual would discourage a writer from the idea of an omniscient Deus X, each of his brother character. Not not the writers of this show. Now, awkward moment though. Yeah. I love moments like these though.

Where one character thinks that the other person is thinking of something else, but they're actually not. They're talking about another thing. Yeah, kind of surprising that each of you would overestimate how much everyone's thinking about him. But he does. It's definitely reminded me of me as a kid. You ask one parent for something,

and it's like, I gotta talk to your other parent about that. And then you follow up the next day, and you're like, so how did it go? And it's like, I gotta talk to your other parent about that. And then you follow up the next day, and you're like, so how did it go? And it's like, we haven't talked about it yet. We don't care. Yikes. Why are you a traitor? I'm not being here to do it.

Do it. Do it. Do it. Do it. Do it. Do it. Do it. He's still super thirsty for this Starfleet Academy

application situation. And it's a we'll talk about it when I get back from the captain. And he chips like how about not talk about it when you get back. How about talk about it during when I'm on the mission because I know all about Borg's technology being an XB. He's a unlike to Vachon Paris not going to succeed in talking his way into this mission. So he goes and sees seven and she's pretty pissed to be there in this vulnerable state and have him come in and see her like this. I really thought the performance of Jerry Ryan this episode was great.

And I think it might be because I know what this feels like. I feel I felt this way before. Like my wife famously does not want to be doded on when she's sick. She's like, leave me alone so I can get better. I don't want you to like help me or whatever. I think I am, I think I'm largely the same way. Like, I won't say that I'm angry, but seven is angry about this.

Do you feel this kind of way? Yeah, I think that it's actually a thing that my wife and I are a little bit mismatched on because she really wants the like make make the soup get the tea kind of treatment and something I've had to learn over the years. And in contrast, she's had to sort of learn that I just want to like watch a movie on my iPad and not talk about what I might be needing every 45 seconds. It's weird that your instinct,

I mean, for a long time before she told you, was to just make her chowder? That's not a good sick soup, right? No, and like, you know, chowder, like a cheesy bread, you know, like just, just everything like thick and heavy. Vegetable lasagna, I know, vegetable lasagna. I mean, there's vegetables in there. So that's good.

I think we're having a lasagna for dinner tonight. I'm excited about it. Everyone wants that one, you're sick. Yeah. Anyway, seven doesn't want lasagna, she doesn't want help, she doesn't want doding. No, she just wants to be alone. Dr. Mark tries to explain this to you, Chubb.

And he doesn't get it. I think he's more like my wife. He's like, when you're sick, you want somebody to take a lot of care of you. So I'm trying to do that. This is a moment in the episode where each chub must be taught that people are different with different desires and motivations and so forth.

And it made me wonder how much teaching about people do you think each of requires for having grown up in a maturation chamber. Like, you could argue he needs more teaching than seven does about what it means to be human. Because I mean, are you clear on how early seven was assimilated versus each of relatively? Oh, yeah, I guess maybe similar ages, I'm not sure. Yeah, if that's the case, this kind of checks out, right? Like, the doctor is really taking a moment to be like,

Hey, people are different. This is what she wants. You got to respect it. And to be like, hey, people are different. This is what she wants, you gotta respect it. And he's like, XB's R, XB's R, why should it be? Me and seven get along so often. The Delta Flyer has entered the debris field. I didn't know how much I loved a debris field

until this moment. It's cool as hell. It's great. These pieces of borg's ship floating around. Borg debris also just makes great debris, I think, because it's already like kind of just a cube of debris as a ship. Bodies have got to be so hard to render though at this moment in time, because how much harder would that have hit if there were bodies out there or pieces? Yeah, like a leg hit the windscreen of the Delta fire. Yeah, I mean, you gotta believe that there's half-bobbs out there, we just can't show them.

Every day. Sure. I love the way every time you go to a board ship, the camera starts in position on like one of the flashy set design things and then pulls out and pans down and it's federations with flashlights walking through, pushing cables aside as they dangle from the ceiling. I love that there is like a consistent visual language in like establishing where you're at, but do you think there's been an evolution in how these interiors have been shot?

Oh, yeah. I really, really love how totally dark the character's faces are at certain times on this ship. And I don't think Star Trek would have done that seasons ago or series ago. No, if you go back and look at the episode where the boards are first revealed that queue episode of TNG, like when they go over to the cube, it is like shocking how brightly lit it is

in that episode. The produce department of a grocery store. Yeah, and this is like full haunted house, like super, super dark. Most of the screen is falling away to total black. It's effective. They find a Borg's body and they like lift girders off of him because everybody that dies on a destroyed starship

always has girders on them. It's true. And they do this like grizzly brain surgery thing or they're like take the cortical node out of this forehead. Oh man. They're like robbing a grave here. This is so fucking tame compared to Star Trek Picard. Yeah, that's true.

Janeway's field surgery is downright gentle compared to what we see later. It's true. To each of himself. Just then, Paris calls in to tell them that they've got company. And when company arrives, who the hell are these guys? They sort of have like, caeson styling to them. But they aren't actually, are they?

Yeah, they have each have loaf. That was what I thought was so weird. Yeah. They claim to have the salvage rights to this field of debris. This turns into a big star trek fight. They get beamed out in the nick of time. It's the classic phaser beam through the cloud of disappearing transporter particles. These guys did not seem like they wanted to negotiate. No.

The rights to these salvaged pieces. Yeah, like, Janeway didn't even get far enough to like offer to buy the node off them. Like, I feel like that should have been in the cards, right? Like, what if we just pay for this node? We didn't know. I think one of the most badass things that's ever happened to the two-vot character is the hero shot of him double tapping

his phaser rifle at these guys. Yeah. It is kick ass. Really good. It makes him look super hard in the extra capable security officer way that he so rarely gets to demonstrate. Yeah, it's big fun.

So Paris is able to beam them back over to the flyer and there's a little bit of a dog fight throughout the borax parts in space. This is really great. And they got to do one of those like swoop around to get behind the ship that's attacking them. And after licking a couple shots their way, they're able to get out of their safety. I wanted so much more about these folks though. Never see him again. Never hear from him again. No. They're out of the fight once the Delta Fire has its way with them. And we cut back to Voyager where Dr. Mark finds 7 of 9 rifling through his files. And she's just like looking for busy work basically.

Like she does not want to be sick. She wants to, she wants to be up in Adam and doing stuff. And he wants her to rest. Not even Neelix's flowers are enough to cheer her up. It's a fun bit of reverse psychology though, when Neelix brings in the catasca. Is she so susceptible to reverse psychology though? Like, I feel like she should have seen through this, you know?

Dr. Do you think she's up to it as long as you go easy on her? But in the same way I asked that question about YouTube, like, maybe she's just too immature to, to detect it. Yeah, maybe so they start talking about how there's no way she could win at Kata Scott, given her diminished state right now. And so just, just take your codoscotted go, Nelix. And this is enough to go to her into dropping the file rearrangement and going and working with him, which has got to be

like a complete disaster for the filing system, right? Like stopping mid refiling like this. The worst can't imagine. Yeah. This is why my files have gone unfiled. You only start a new filing system if you can complete the system. Otherwise, it's anarchy. Yeah. My filing system consists of getting a document that I think I probably should save and

cramming it into a chest of drawers and hoping I can find it at such time as I actually need to. There you go. I've got to get that. Not now put your mind number your mouth. I've got to get that. Not now it's just trying to go. A while ago I gave an aura frame to each of my parents, my wife's parents, my brother,

my wife's sister, and a few of our close friends, and I have to tell you I now have a major problem. I will never be able to give a better gift than this. They love these things, and now they think I'm a nice and caring person who gives great and thoughtful gifts. Do you know what kind of pressure I'm under now? That it's a year later, and it's the holiday gift giving season? And I've already given the best gift you can possibly give in Aura Frame.

Do you know how that feels? Do you? I'm screwed right now. I have nothing. I have no ideas, no plan. I can't give them a second Aura Frame, which they got set up so freaking easy last year that even the oldest and most out-of-touch olds in my life can use it. And I'm out here sending pictures of these frames all the time with a couple clicks of my phone, so it's like they get one gift last year, but also a bunch of other gifts the

whole year through to surprise and delight them. How do you top that? You can't. I'm really in the weeds right now. I don't know what to do this year. I might just go into hiding or something. So here's my advice. Shoot your best shot now. Get your relatives, friends, loved ones, the best gift this holiday season, an aura frame, and the next year I don't know, just deal with it then. Let's just work on today. Let's just be here now.

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Yes, it's great. We know everything baby geniuses tell something you don't know So Janeway calls node we got a node node here So this game will have to wait Surgery's on the table, seven's on the table, getting prepped for it. Paras assist the doc and Janeway assist Paris. I like that the old note is all blanky and it looks like it's glitching out.

You know? This episode made me feel crazy because the makeup effects are tough. I'm just gonna say that they're a challenge, but the effect of yanking something out of her forehead looks so good. I know. It doesn't look like that fake freeze frame face

that you can tell is unnaturally frozen. Yeah. It looks really good the whole way. It looks great. I don't know how they did it. It's like a combination of like a digital composite. There's like some CG elements to the whole because the little like doors that open up

are definitely composited in, but then there's like a physical tube and like something that is actually being inserted. But like, you can see like her eyeballs moving under her eyelids while they're doing it and stuff. It's great. It's great. It's so good. So during this procedure, what they've got to do is have the computer run the life support functions for seven during, but there's kind of a finite amount of time that they have to do this swap. And as time runs out, the new node gets put in,

but this node isn't gonna work, Ben, because seven starts flopping around on the bed, and her body's rejecting this node too, and they're shocking the shit out of her with the paddles. RSVP seven. It's one of those staggering episodes that tries to make the case that node doesn't mean node. In this case, node means yes, it's a simulation.

Yeah, they were just practicing. And this was their 12th practice run. The doctor makes the case that this salvage node has been in a dead board and is therefore kind of past due. It's not going to work. What they need is the node from a living board. And Jane was like, cool, well, we'll go get one of those then. And she like marches out of the holodeck. As I've demonstrated many times before, as I've watched cube after cube get destroyed. as I've watched cube after cube get destroyed and a point that the queen was trying to make. My value for Borg life is a little skewed. I've killed tens of thousands of them. What's one more? Are you suggesting ending one life to save another? I'm not giving up on her. Neither am I. Where are you on this? Personally.

I was all right with it. Let's go find one. I think after the events of the last episode, it is a different ethical calculus, and I think that that would have been a nice conversation for them to have. I wonder if they could have gotten a hold of K-Rock and been like, hey, K-Rock.

Rock! Rock! Do you have any, like, I mean, I don't know how to put this delicately, but like about to die, Borgs, over there. Like maybe they're really near the end. And maybe we could kind of hasten that along. Yeah. In a way that helps.

Or like maybe we could just kill you in battle. Like, you know, it'd be a scrimmage, but we would make sure that you died and went to Borg Stovocore, and then we could use your node, you know? Like a freshly killed Borg has got to be just as good. Is it Stovocore? Stovocore would be better.

That's a good punch out. I'd say that this is a Kirk moment for Janeway. She is in the teeth of a no-win scenario. Dr. Mark is being a little bit more sanguine about the fact that that's what this is, and Janeway is having a really hard time accepting it, and in fact rejects it. The doctor's, Dr. Mark.

Dr. Mark's attitude here is really strange to me, because he makes the case here that they should expect death as a very possible, if not probable outcome. Yeah. What kind of help is that attitude, duck? I didn't like this at all. Like, yeah, of course, of course death is on the table. That's what we're trying to fix.

That's what we're trying to solve for here. Why did he keep bringing it up? Yeah, we all know. Can you recall, Graname, or something? So they go tell seven, you know, basically the results of this conversation after she has done, you know, cleaning the floor with Nielix and the Codis Cod game.

And this hits like a ton of bricks, but she would really like to return to her duties and they implore her to stay in six space so that the doctor can keep an eye on her as they look for other long shot solutions to the problem. The tone between, I'm just playing Codis Kadas got with Nelix and the moment the doctor and Janeway walk in looking like they just watched a cement mixer crash into a preschool. Tonally it flips in that moment so utterly. Oh, I should really see how things are going in the mess. I just want to say Kate Mulgrue is acting her ass off in this episode also.

And so many scenes like she doesn't have dialogue, she's just got to do face acting. And she's great at that. She rules. Each of walks down to Six Bay, having been asked to get stuff for Seven from her cargo bay, I guess. And he finds six bay empty.

Dr. Mark isn't even there. So he has to boot him back up. And Dr. Mark got turned off mid argument with seven. When they look over at the console and see seven's combat you there, everyone knows what that means. Seven has quit Starfleet. It's terrible news.

Yeah, she's soft murdering a Klingon and cold blood. But it's fine because she's not wearing the badge. You can't be prosecuted for that. I mean, it saves them a torpedo casing to shoot, because I guess if she's a civilian, they're not gonna do that, right? No, no way. You're gonna burn a torpedo casing on her?

I'm not going to burn anybody else named Mark on her. I mean, that'd be quite a fine for that alien species that wakes people up from the dead. Oh, yeah. Are you going to eat the rest of that, aliens? Yes, my taste buds are still caballi. BLT finds Seven in the Warp Corps. She's just there occupying herself doing busy work, I guess. And speaking of world-class performances in this episode, I thought that Roxanne Dawson did a really nice job

talking to Seven about what comes after life and her tradition and in board tradition, Jerry Ryan gets ahead and ECU in this moment that is really beautiful and she fills it up with a performance where she's talking about having been liberated from the collective four years ago, and all of the memories that she had up until that moment will live on forever in the collective, but the journey that she's been on of becoming an individual

and being on Voyager will vanish from reality when she dies. And boy, it is a real show-stopping moment for this episode and I think for this series. It's a really intense piece of film. I'm with you on these great ECUs, for these actors specifically, to do their thing. I think there's another advantage to it in that it frames out the wound makeup on Jerry Ryan. I think that's a good choice.

Yeah, if you're getting that close, you gotta be careful with what you show and what you don't. Yeah. Interesting to consider like how far seven and BLT have come, you know, this is not a conversation they would have had early on at all for all of their differences. Yeah.

You ever think about what's going to live on after us after we die and that is very likely going to be this show and maybe nothing else? How does that make you feel? We should do something else. I'm just spending a lot of time on this, huh? I've got to spend it a lot of time on this, huh? Oh crap. I also love the, like, when the scene shifts because the doctor walks in. They're up on that second level of engineering and the camera, like, pans down to him walking in, and it's almost like a frakes god shot. This feels like a very new camera position for this set.

It does. This was directed by David Livingston, and I think he really outdid himself directing the camera in particular in this episode. I mean, I think David Livingston is one of the great Star Trek directors, and we all have admired that work throughout all of the series, but this one really stood out to me in the way the camera moved and where it was in the different scenes. Yeah, his direction really distinguishes itself from the others in a great way.

So Seven gets dispensation to keep doing work and not hang out in Six Bay, but she's got to wear a clip show device going forward. So he tosses that up to her and leaves her alone. How many times do you think they shot this? I love moments like this in a show, like anything, anything involving sliding or throwing or catching or whatever, like, how many takes? I was thinking about it because like he is a photonic being, So he can probably nail the toss every time in the world of the show

and probably sevens visual, acuity, and motor enhancements make it so that she catches the toss every time in the world of the show. But she's also sick. Yeah. Yeah, that would have been great. She dropped it and it had been like a coughing

a little blood into a hanky moment. Like, I can't believe that just happened. Oh my God. How come we don't call back LAL more often? Like, the Clubs Show device just hit seven in the face. Reflexes still need to develop. And it sticks, because that's where it's supposed to go. Bullseye. Later in the cargo bay, Seven is giving each of the news about the entrance to Tam. He can take it. And here's a list of crew people you can study with for that.

Yeah. What Seven's doing here is like lining up succession for herself. Like, look, I'm not gonna be here to tutor you. Here's some folks who can and each of, does not like this at all, because he thinks that she's given up. Yeah, especially doesn't like that.

She doesn't even have a plan for his study of astro metrics. He would like to study that with her. She's like, you already know way more than these starfleet bozos about that. Anyways, you know, along it took me to learn that you could have tabs on the ass lab screen. You're a natural kid. So he winds up taking the resolve from this conversation to the ass lab solo where he put some study in on the brain scans that the doctor did of seven. And he walks into six bay and pitches doctor mark on why the failure with the other cortical node and what the solution is going to be.

I love the repetition of this moment, like each of arriving in six bay with the confidence of someone who who thinks that he solved a huge problem, but all he's doing is telling the doctor what he already knows. Yeah. That's great. What you require is a live drone. I've already been through that with Captain Janeway. My cortical node is operational.

I've got a node. Can you take it? Take my node. Please. He's an old cat skills comic. He says that this has an 86.9% chance of working. Adam, you know what that is. That's almost 80. Savo!

That would elicit a big bet for me. I like those odds. The dot doesn't seem as excited as each of is to even consider this idea. He is basically horrified by it, but by the end of the scene is like accepting all of the iPads that each of his hand to him in a in a way that sort of portends that he might be willing to entertain it. I love how unnecessary all of the iPads are improving this point. Like, to you and me, like past people, a lot of iPads looks like a lot of information, but in Star Trek, like, that's an unnecessary amount of iPads.

If you can't say it on one iPad, it shouldn't be said at all. That's communications theory right there. Yeah. I think Steve Jobs might have coined that. The Captain finds seven in the As lab. They're looking at images of earth together, looking at the Grand Canyon, looking at a farm country. This is another scene where I just love Kate Mulgrow's performance, right? Because there's a sequence to her physicality.

There's almost three parts of it. Like, when she enters the room, she's got this curiosity, and then she's got this feeling about what seven's doing, and then she's got the moment where she becomes affected by seven's feelings about being a disappointment to her. Because seven is talking about I'm going to die and I want to prepare you to accept my death the way you've accepted the death of other members of the crew who didn't make it this far because the failure has been my night yours. You tried really hard to make me more human

and to make me an integral part of this crew and to the extent that I failed, it's because I didn't try hard enough, I wasn't good enough. And that hits Janeway like a ton of bricks. And you're right, Mulgrew's performance in this moment is staggeringly good. What took me out of the scene was the conclusion of it where seven was so certain that she was going to go to Stovacore when she died. Like that's weird. I guess that conversation with BLT was really affecting. Janice, I'm not sure you understood that all correctly. And Stephanie is like, no, like I was saying, my failure not yours.

I accept that I have limitations here and I want you to start accepting that too and as a matter of preparation for me going to Stovocore. And Jamie was like, no, no, no, it's that that's a Klingon thing. I'm not sure they let your kind in there. And seven's like, whoa, whoa, what? My kind, Does that mean?

Jan was like, I just don't think it's gonna happen for you. Seven and seven just puts one finger over Jan was lips. And says, shh, shh, shh, I'm going to stove a car. I'm so grateful that the doctor interrupts this argument. He calls them into the conference room. The doc has presented each of's data to Janeway and Seven in this scene. Seven does not want to hear it because any risks

to each of no matter what was the percentage of success, 86%, even with a 14% chance of harm to each of it. it's not worth it. No, she would never. So the duck and seven leave each of to angrily accuse Janeway of sitting under hands and letting seven die. So they're in conflict now. Yeah. I mean, each of is basically just begging to get kicked off the ship at this point. Yeah. He jumps basically just begging to get kicked off the ship at this point. Yeah. What's that gonna mean for me? I won't know anyone, man.

I mean, I know he stowed away, but who's gonna squeegee all this sewage? The job hits different when it's the sewage of people you know. Hahaha. I don't want to leave squeegeeing stranger sewage. You ever thought about that? The turn of an unknown? It's terrible! Way worse!

Don't like how smelling your own fart isn't as bad as someone else's? Be you! Some of these incidents that don't even get name checked on the show, but should stinks! You want to know the worst moment of my entire life? Sweep in the sewage an hour after seven, drank four glasses of weeders super protein power shake! Hahaha! Hahaha! Either that or Taco Tuesday! With Neelix cooking it's a real, it's a real minefield for me!

Seven is doing bits on imminent death with Dr. Mark. He doesn't get it. I was attempting to lighten the mood. Yes. Well done. He and Janeway get called to the cargo bay where each of has kind of forced the issue. He has disengaged his note and made himself very sweaty in the process. And he is on his charging mat struggling, and basically explains like, you take my node, or I'm dead. This node is gonna either be the thing that saves seven

or it's gonna be no good to anyone. There's no third thing. So, you know, use it or waste it up to you. It's like the node is on a trolley track, and on one of the tracks is each of and his brother, and on the other track is seven. Yeah. It's the cortical node trolley problem. And it is.

Seven is pissed when they bring him down to six pay. And I love the conflict between them because they're both hunched over and clearly like in a lot of distress and pain. But they're also like arguing and mad at each other for being so like recalcitrant about the situation. It's a great scene. Yeah.

Seven accuses each of affecting like a child. A Janeway is like, you know what? I think he's acting like a child. A Janeways like, you know what? I think he's acting like a man. Adam, it's export bar mitzvah. I don't know. I don't know. Each of you decided to perform a little operation on himself. Captain, he's just a child.

I don't think he is. Check your scams. You'll see I'm already adapting. I don't like how Janeway's eyes go down and then up on YouTube from across six Bay here. Cause only cut over to Chicoete and down into his hands, he snaps a pencil. Yeah. And it's like, it's really loud and like kind of interrupts each have while he's doing his Torah portion. But they do the surgery, seven wakes up, six days later. She's doing much better.

She slept it off and is in very good health. She goes and pays each have a visit on a bio bed in Six Bay. Dr. Mark explains that his recovery has been a little bit trickier and he's like, he's still pretty fucked up. He's like kind of dazed and bleary when they wake him up and he talks to seven. But yeah, he did it.

Each have did it. Each have each have each have each have each have. Yeah, he did it. E-chep did it. E-chep, E-chep, E-chep, E-chep. Yeah, just big fans of E-chip on this show, the bother was. When he's back up and running and gets the start studying for his star fleet tests. Yeah, I guess he's going to help him. Seven. Seven. Seven, so happy to be helping him study.

Yeah. So happy that she starts crying. This is not a glitch. I have praised Jerry Ryan ever since she appeared on the show. I think she's a great actor. I think this might be her finest moment. It's such a specific tear like, tear dangle. Like, I really love just hanging tear and just like, well in them up and not dropping the tears. Just keeping them in the pools. She's just carrying the tears around, using them for ballast as she does the rest of the scene.

It's amazing. But I love this scene specifically because Jerry drops them at two different points and, ugh, it's crushing to watch this. It's so good. because Jerry drops him at two different points. And, ugh, it's crushing to watch this. It's so good. She's not only hanging tier, she's dropping tier. She's one of the best in the business at that. Really great.

Yeah, world class. Did you like this episode Adam? You know, I've made it easy to get along with close to the time, but I don't like bullet and I don't like boolean, I don't like friends, and I don't like you. You really love this too. Really, like the episode. I was deceived by this episode, though,

because I don't know if you watch these episodes on Paramount Plus the way I do. But the title screen, like in the table of contents for the season, showed a scene of Jerry Ryan contents for the season. Mm-hmm. Showed a scene of Jerry Ryan wearing her outfit from Unimetric Zero, and I was like, Oh! I was expecting her to go back to Unimetric Zero,

or like do a holodeck Unimetric Zero, or like something for her own comfort. I was like, what is that gonna happen? Like, when is she gonna let her hair down at all? That didn't happen. She goes into the holodeck in her Unimetric Zero costume and fucks Flotter. Take off your clothes.

Ow! Yeah, Flotter really knows how to float a basement. But totally separate from that deception. I just, I deceived myself with the table of content screen. A really strong episode, really great Jerry Ryan episode, really great seven episode, low key Apex Kate Mulgrew episode. Like this is the sort of episode you can make with a Kate Mulgrew on your cast, like not needing to make her the A story, but having her come in and like really support the A story, the way that she does, really great work there.

So yeah, I love the interplay between these two characters quite a bit. So big fan, what about you? I also really like this episode. I think just special effects were great. The directing was great. The acting was great. The acting was great. Slight quibbles in the way some of the makeup was executed, but overall just felt like Star Trek really firing on all cylinders and really like hitting the emotional

and speculative notes that it tries to hit with full force and I really appreciated it. I thought it was a great episode. You remember how weird season seven of Next Generation got? Do you think we're gonna get really weird episodes here? I feel like there's something really different about Voyager in that season seven is about like wrapping the story up anyway that like there wasn't like a there wasn't a thing to wrap up per se in TNG. Yeah.

I mean, as much as Star Trek Picard tried to make the case that there was stuff that needed to be wrapped up in TNG. Yeah, I mean, there is a serialized story with a goal to it that we're all heading toward, yeah? Yeah, I think so. So I think it might... You're saying not to expect a mask episode? Ha ha ha.

God willing, there'll be a mask episode. All right, looking forward to that. I'm also looking forward to what's in our priority one inbox had I wanna head in there with ya boy. Oh yeah. Priority one message from Starfleet coming in on Secured Channel. You need a supplement on it.

supplement on it? supplement. supplement. Yes, extra. The interest alone could be enough to buy this ship. And my first P1 is from Tarrick and it's to Cassie. Goes like this. I'm sorry, I hid my Star Trek, D&D,

and other nerd habits from you before we got married. But now we are watching Voyager together. Maybe someday you'll even waste time with this podcast. Thank you for being such a wonderful partner. You are the love of my life. Risky Business, Tarek. Hiding something essential about yourself until after the wedding.

Usually doesn't work out very well. I don't think that my wife really knew how deep I went with Star Trek before we got married either, so I can't judge Tarek too hard. That'd be casting stones when I live in a glass house. Real talk. Do you think she would have gone for this? Had she known? I think I'm pretty charming. Ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha That is very confident. Ben, our second priority when message is from Drunk She Moda.

Okay. Just to cat my beautiful, amazing first spawn, Happy 19th! That message goes like this, cat! You're awesome and I thank you for being my child. You're the coolest. I love our shared love of Trek and I love the human adult you're becoming. You think the pod is cool, as the famous goose during the tunes. But what my theory presupposes is that maybe the goose is famous because the pods so cool?

Shed out to fajita jane and apers, Roll Air and Drop. [♪ INTRO MUSIC PLAYING [♪ Wow. That's fun. You know, any reference to the goose just makes me happy. It makes me happy too. I got a video text from the goose the other day. What? The goose sometimes will text me like, it's like content. I gotta, I gotta video text from the goose the other day. What?

The goose sometimes will text me like, it's like content. It like, should be on social media, but he almost sent it to me. That's great. Yeah, it was very funny. Drunk Shimoda clarifies mum, if you're cat, that weirdo at the London gig, if you're penner, Adam, and PS trans rights or human rights.

Fuck yeah, drunk Shimoda. I don't understand the mom of your cat that weirdo at the London gig. Because drunk Shimoda is imagining that you and I remember drunk Shimoda as that one weirdo at the London gig. Oh yeah, no, I don't remember anyone from the London show. Yeah, I was you were delirious. I was jet lagged out of my fucking brain. I remember't remember anyone from the London show. Yeah, I was you were delirious. I was jet lagged out of my fucking brain. I remember drunk Shimoda. There you go.

What a weirdo. Yeah. Hey, thanks to drunk Shimoda and Tyrek for getting priority one messages. If you'd like to get a message on the show, head to maximumfund.org slash jumbo-tron and book one today. We have some serious inventory openages. had to maximumfund.org slash jumbo-tron and book one today.

We have some serious inventory openages. So get on it. I'm in the car. Yeah. Hey Ben. What's that Adam? Did you find yourself a drunk Shimoda? I'm a drunk Shimoda.

I think I'm gonna give it to Tom Paris, not really because he was like being particularly silly in this episode, but I think that I always forget that he is the first assistant to Dr. Mark at all times until he is the main person assisting in extremely sensitive surgery scenes. And I love that he just does it in his normal uniform. in person assisting in like extremely sensitive surgery scenes. Yeah. And I love that he just does it in his normal uniform. Like they don't put on the red, you know, sock with the kufi hat that Dr. Polaski put on

to operate on Picard's heart. Like there's no, they don't like get cleaned up for pulling a cortical node out of somebody's brains. Oh, that's fun. Why? So yeah, I don't know. I don't know why, but Tom Perez got it for me this episode. It occurs to me that it's been a long time since we've,

since we've tried to help out our new viewers by saying what exactly this is. We do drunk Shim Shemota every episode as kind of a way to honor a character who's maybe doing the weirdest or having the most fun or a moment of levity or just something we wanted to point out and emphasize here.

Yeah, that's what Drunk Shemota's for. I think my Drunk Shemota is going to be of the last of those varieties. I just think, like, on the page, Janeway doesn't have a whole lot to do. She's got that centerpiece scene with Seven, where Seven thinks that she's been a disappointment and Janeway says, no, that's a really nice moment.

But I think that there's so much more going on between the both of them, the entire episode, that it really rewards that kind of viewing where you're looking at Janeway in the background of some scenes to see what she's up to. Yeah. See what she's doing? Really strong work. So, make mine, Kate Moguru.

Hell yeah. Well Adam, it's time to head to Gach.bizslashgame where we keep the game of buttholes. The will of the caretaker. Our runabout is currently on square 22. And our next episode is season 7 episode 3. Drive. in seven episode three drive. Tom and Belana's relationship could be the loser when Tom enters a race. Isn't it always a loser? Yeah, when is it ever won?

In what context would that be a suspenseful situation? I really love the thumbnail of this episode where Tom appears is wearing that white jacket with the scorpion on the back. Yeah. So fucking cool. Yeah. I should get one of those and wear it unironically.

Yeah. I'm going to start listening to Kazinsky again. Well, Adam, do you want to find out if I'm a real hero or a real human being when I roll this bone? Yeah, I want to find out. Hell yeah! Okay, just ahead we have a space butthole and I think we could also hit a naked now episode if I roll a six.

You're required to learn as you play. Roll. That's the one where we have to do it from the bathtub. Mm-hmm. Ooh. Stop just short of that nude now, Adam. Thank God. Only five.

Tula! Did I win? Harvey. Lacing us on the doorstep of, but not on. So I guess you have an opportunity next time to roll your customary one and put us in harm's way. But for now, regular episode next week. Dry episode.

The best kind. Yes. I don't like the way I said that. I think you understand though. Yeah. None of it's good. With all that said, tons of thank yous to get out of the way here at the end of the episode.

Thank you to the people without whom this would not be possible. We're talking friends of DeSoto, who rate and review the show on Apple Podcasts. We're talking friends of DeSoto, who rate and review the show on Apple Podcasts. We're talking, friends of DeSoto, who support at MaximumFund.org slash joint. We're talking, windy, pretty, produces and edits the show. We're talking, Cardati Bill Tilly, who does all the social media. We're talking, dark material, without whom there wouldn't be a bed of music under my voice right now. We're talking, Adam Ragusia, without whom we wouldn't be a bed of music under my voice right now. He's doing it.

We're talking Adam Ragusia without whom we would not have a Janeway song and wouldn't have a great buddy over there on the YouTube's cooking up delicious food for all you freaks. Maybe you're hearing this, you're not going to have to edit anything. He's making the whole run. Credit speed run, Benjamin R Harrison! And with that, we will be back at you next time with another great episode! Star Trek Voyager, an episode of the greatest generation Voyager that's here in Wedden Bells! Wooo!

First time that's ever happened, Ben! Yeah! That was good. I'm just glad I was here for that. I'm so fucking stupid.