The Greatest Generation - The USS Donger (VOY S4E26)

Episode Date: November 21, 2022

When a conehead hitchhiker with shaved ears comes aboard, his knack for languages helps Captain Janeway decipher the encoded message from Starfleet. But when a rendezvous with the USS Shovel makes their situation seem too good to be true, the crew is forced to reckon with everything Arturis represents. Are Frisbee-based games still fun without the cocaine? Does Star Trek need better cargo continuity? Can revenge look like lechery? It’s the episode with soft rock yacht bangers! Support the production of The Greatest Generation.Friends of DeSoto for Democracy.Friends of DeSoto for Justice. Follow The Game of Buttholes: The Will of the Caretaker!Music by Adam Ragusea & Dark MateriaFollow The Greatest Generation on Twitter, and discuss the show using the hashtag #GreatestGen!The Greatest Generation is on Twitch.Facebook group | Subreddit | Discord | WikiSign up for our mailing list!

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Welcome to the greatest generation. It's a Star Trek podcast by a couple of guys who are just a little bit embarrassed to have a Star Trek podcast. I'm Ben Harrison. I'm Adam Pryanaka. Boy Adam, the days are getting shorter. Yeah, it looks dark over there. I'm looking at the lighting in my room and it's... I just got up to get myself alcohol,

and what I should have done is got up and turn on the goddamn lights. Yeah. Halloween has already happened. We can't have a spooky episode. I'm gonna get up and turn on the lights. Don't talk shit about me while I'm off, Mike, okay? I would never. Look at Ben. Just fucking flaunting his electricity. Ooh, I have lights in my studio.

Meanwhile, I'm recording under a fucking improvised tent made at a bedsheets. Oh boy, I hope you weren't talking shit about me. I would never. Now, I'll get things. I should have done this a long time ago. Also, I'll get things. That was a good Star Trek joke, Adam. That's why you're the best in the biz. Best in the business.

That's me. You always ask me how I'm doing. This time I'm going to ask you, Ben. How you doing? I'm just having a day, man. I'm having a day. Before the show, I texted you. I said, are you in a good headspace for this? Are you in a good heart space for this?

And your response was, I'm here. I'm really hoping that this is one of those episodes that like, you know, like those ones where you step to the mic and you're just in no fucking mood and then you walk away And you're like that is just what I needed man. It always is every time I want that from this episode It's a sure thing. I had a dentist appointment and I needed to go get some new glasses and they're both in the same Side of town, which is not the side of town I live on so it's a big expedition

You know when I confused those doctors? I had the idea that we would do glasses first, and then I would go hit my dentist appointment, but a combination of, actually, this is an opportunity for me to thank you. The baby gift that your wife and you got for us was some sashes with some house cleaners. Yeah.

You did it? One of the most lovely and thoughtful gifts anybody has ever gotten. Me. Well, really more for the baby. But we told them to spend extra time on your areas of the house. So yeah, I mean, you said this baby is not going to be living in a clean place unless we do this for them. But the cleaners showed up maybe five minutes late, and I think

left like 20 minutes late, like, oh, they were supposed to be here at nine. They got here at 905. They they packed out at like 1120, which put me 20 minutes behind my desired eight ball. Yeah. And then the baby was hungry on route. So we had to stop and feed him and then like outrageous. We needed lunch. And so like by the time everything was sorted, I had to go straight to the dentist and like was almost, I was like on time to the dentist. I like barely got there on time with no trip to get glasses. So we put the trip to get glasses on the back end. Hey, when's daddy getting lunch? I had lunch while the baby was eating. It was fine. Okay. We parked in the parking lot of a delightful burrito restaurant. I got a burrito.

But then, um, yeah, the so got glasses, but it was one of those, like, you put in home on the GPS and it's like, this will take 30 minutes and like, the drive is like right when 90% of Los Angeles decided that this was a great time to get in their car and do some driving around. L.A. traffic cast, we haven't done this in a while. Yeah, it wound up taking like an hour to get home on an estimated 30 minute drive. I've been remarkably like of all of the stresses in my life. The driving stress has not been a thing. I just know it's going to be bad. So I go into it serene and free.

I think I would have been more serene, but I was the passenger. Oh, my wife and I share a car. She was driving this time. And I think that this is a thing that you've identified in yourself long ago, which is that you cope better with the stress when you're behind the wheel. For sure. And I think if I had been driving, I would have been less of a stress ball. Didn't help that the baby was really upset also.

Yeah. Just all the way around, I've had an afternoon, man. You can't have a baby in arms and the front seat of a car, right, for your bag reasons? No, that would be unsafe at any speed. So what do you do? Do you sit in the back? No, the baby sits in the back. I was thinking I probably should have sat in the back because it was so upset and like it would have been Helpful to be able to like reach over and comfort him. Yeah, but I don't know if I would have actually been able to comfort him or not

I don't know. It's really not your way with the comforting. I don't know how to do this You're doing fine. Do you have one of those giant rearview mirrors that has like eight different panels at different angles on it so that you can see everything going on in the back seat? No, we have this one that's supposed to go on like the back headrests so that you look

in the rearview mirror and then it bounces off the back headrest and you can see the baby in the car seat. Oh. It's like a second layer of reflection. Yeah, that's confusing. But the straps were designed by somebody who's never seen the headrest in a car. So they don't hold it up there.

And I think we have to get another one that actually works. That's what we should have gotten you as your baby gift. Yeah, you're really fucked up. We should have had a group of house cleaners install it. That way you'll know it's done right. That way. Well, it really sounds like a day with a little bit of column A and a little bit of column B, right? A little bit of hope and a little bit of column A and a little bit of column B, right? A little bit of hope and a little bit of fear.

You think? Yeah. You got some cool new sunglasses and some cool new regular glasses. Are you wearing the regs right now for the Friends of Disodown to see? No, no, no. When you have prescription, you pick out the frames and then they have to go like make the lens. Yeah. It's time consuming to cut the bottom out of so many coke bottles and glue them together, right? Yeah, it presees month.

Yeah, that's exactly what it is. So two weeks from now, the folks watching at home will get to see my cool new specs. Are glasses a choice for you? Or like, can you not wear contacts? You've worn contacts before, right? Oh, I could wear contacts. There was an era for you that was just mill house eyes, right? I was telling the eye doctor the other day when I went in for my optometry appointment

that I gave up on contacts when I was in my early to mid-twenties, primarily because I kept sleeping over in an unexpected place and then not having any way of dealing with the fact that there were contacts in my eyes, so I'd have to sleep with them in. Oh, listen to your exciting early twenties. Yeah, I went over to a party and couldn't close the deal, but did get too drunk and had to sleep on the couch. I need my glasses.

It was so exciting. That's great. That's awesome. I did not correct the optometrist when she made the assumption that I was referring to a 20s that was not squandered. You know, that's a much better pivot into our episode title today, isn't it? Yeah. That is some real H&F. Yeah, it's the finale of season four.

I can't believe we're already here. I know. Seems like we're just tearing through Voyager. Were you expecting a cliffhanger? No, I don't think I was. I sure was. Well, we'll get into whether or not this episode makes Cliff kids out of us. It's season four, episode 26, Open Fear.

Breaver, of course. Unless you've got something a little bigger in your torpedo toots, I'm not turning around. Sorry. The cold open made me think that Starfleet is an organization with a Frisbee-based recreation culture. Because when I saw Velocity being played here, I'm like, this is why the Suck Disc game was so popular.

Everyone knew generally how to play a game with a Frisbee in it. Yeah. I mean, Suck Disc must have been like sort of disappointing. He's like, what? You don't even shoot the disc. You know what I bet when they were testing Suck Disc on people in Starfleet, a bunch of the early players would like reflexively pull out a dustbuster and aim it at their own head. No, no, an episode of Prodigy the other day, and one of them had sucked disc in their locker.

Mm-hmm. This is very early in a child's life to be experimenting with psychosomatic headsets. Psychoactive, is that the word I'm looking for? Whatever this thing does, it must feel pretty good. It's pretty forgiving that you're just a patch away from fixing a game. Yeah.

You know what we missed at the end of that episode at TNG was the after mission report where they're like, now I know we should probably destroy all of these units, but let's not, I mean, this was a fun game, right? Like without the psychoactive properties. What they probably did was they applied the sort of ethos behind the synth hall to Sector. They're like, what if this made you feel good,

but then you could dismiss the deleterious effects when you needed to? Yeah, what is Frisbee without cocaine? It's still pretty fun. It's a hoot. Yeah. I mean, Frisbee without cocaine is basically like, what Santa Cruz is as a place, right?

Right? Who knew about seven of nine's like upper arm implant? We've never seen this before. Yeah. Have not. But I also have to say this. I'm a person with long hair. Look at me, Ben. My hair is basically a pandemic length at this point. It's been months since I've had a haircut. I'm watching these two people. What are you thinking about getting one? Are you going to get that like back to pre-pandemic at some point or? I, yeah, I don't know, I'm too busy.

You got two characters running around vigorously, shooting at Frisbee's, neither of them wearing headbands. I was shocked by this. How is it that their hair stayed out of their faces? It's impossible for me. It's almost like these people are not aware that there's a headband for sale at podjup.biz. I know. A gym shimota headband specifically. Hotjup.biz.

I loved how dynamic the scene was and all scenes of velocity really. Yeah, it was cool. I like that seven is like not much of a sportsman. Good game for you. She's like really taking it personally that she lost and like once in a immediate rematch, despite Janeway having a job and having to go do shit. Once you make a phaser and make it sports able, racket sports must suck in comparison, right? Who's playing racket sports after the phaser?

Yeah, what is chief O'Brien doing? I don't know. I don't get it. What is Bashir doing? Tell you what Janeway is doing. Winning. She's wiping the floor with seven here and seven is pissed because she's looking

at her upper arm and plant. She's looking at her tussled hair and she's like, this is how a winner looks. I have all these advantages. And this should be easy. You're a middle aged lady. And I'm an XB. Yeah.

This is insane. This is madness, but she's going to have to sit and marinate on that because Janeway marches out of the room and we go to our theme music. I think it is so savage that Janeway overrides the computer so that seven can't play another game. This is like a mom yanking the power cord out of the back of a Nintendo. Game's over.

Oh yeah, did your parents ever do the thing where they, they didn't confiscate the console, but they confiscated the special adapter cable that went in between the antenna and the little coaxial jack on the back of the TV. You know why they did that? They wanted you to look at it and be teased by it. Horrible.

So fucked up. I wish to play again, not today. So when we come back from the credits, Jane Ways basically doing a log that's like, hey, remember that encoded message? We got way back one. Right. How many episodes back was that?

It seemed like it was a real long time ago. I mean, in an actual time, she says, five months, but it doesn't seem like that many episodes to go, right? "-Message in a bottle, I think would have been the one, right? The Andy Dick episode." And so that was episode 14. That's 12 episodes ago. 12 episodes equals five months. "-I guess so." "-That's not, not, not, not, not, that's not, that's not. Wow. Janeway has like literally been up all night working on this. How many, like, can this ship function with a captain

that is getting as little sleep as this implies she might be getting? I don't know, man. I am seeing Janeway in the mess hall. And when Jicote walks in, he says it's five in the morning. Yeah. Maya thought immediately went to where the hell is Nelix and why hasn't he started breakfast prep?

Is this one of those things where you're like, well, if the captain can be up all night, like doing essentially a math problem to see if maybe she can decode this. And then the ship runs basically fine. Is it sort of like, it's sort of the same thing as like a, if you could be the CEO of a car company, a rocket ship company, and a social network,

is being a CEO really that big of a deal as a job? Yeah, I mean, something in your life has to suffer, right? Something about you as a person. Right. Yeah, maybe that's the trade off. That's a great question Ben, because it made me wonder to what extent a captain is allowed to have a bad day. Right. Because she's creating a bad day for herself here. Yeah, it is. You might want to grab some sleep. We've got a big day ahead. I will in a while. The 5 a.m.ness though is not referred to again in a way that I was disappointed by like,

she should be struggling. Yeah, she should be struggling for the rest of the episode. Yeah. And isn't this scene happened to be the one over which the salad of writers splashed that the same thing? Tell a play by Brandon Braga and Joe Manosky, story by Rick a play by Brandon Braga and Joe Manoski story by Rick Burman, Brandon Braga and Joe Manoski. So, right. So all the nude scenes, you know who gets the credit there. I guess so. A lot of cooks in this kitchen, but not the kitchen on Voyager. No cook in

there. The moment I thought about where Neelix might be and why he's not in the back opening No, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, Yeah, I was really excited to see what shuttle they picked for this. Nielik's also has a hitchhiker and the captain has granted permission for this hitchhiker to catch a ride to the next star system. Yeah. Seems like a good trade to me. Yeah, not too bad. This guy was instrumental in packing the shuttlecraft full of shit, doing a bunch of local deals. Yeah, but then we cut to an exterior

and it's a bunk bed shuttle coming back to the ship. Yeah, they were undershuddled for this one, weren't they? But then when you see the cargo area, it's like Jesus fucking Christ. Like where did you put that stuff in the bunk bed? You really, like you clown-card that fucking ship. They did not have continuity of cargo here, I don't think. It didn't make sense.

You didn't have room for the like novelty rubber ramen noodle bowl and also all of those barrels of raw materials, did you? I hope that's not going to the mess hall. Nailex! It would seem as though much like in parts of Europe, you'll see a tractor trailer and like three or four trailers behind it. Oh yeah.

If you don't need a cargo section to be pressurized or filled with air or whatever, it seems like you should be able to tow. Yeah. A bunch of your gear behind you, right? You know, when they do the HD remaster of Voyager, they should have the shuttle fly toward the ship with just a tractor beam that's like just a chaos

of barrels and crates. I love this idea. Yeah. It could be that messy. I really don't want to do it. Do it. Coffee black. Make it yourself. I'm trying to help you see this as an opportunity to grow. Make it yourself. It'd be that messy.

We meet this hitchhiker, Arturis, played by the great Ray Wise. Yeah. One of the all time that guys, if you don't recognize Ray Wise, turn on your television and just wait. Yeah, he'll show up soon enough. One of the working actors of the last 40 years. Yeah. A very fun role for him.

I feel like this is a little bit outside of the norm for him. He's got kind of like cone heads loaf that years are like really, you know how like on like a lot of electric cars, they make the door handles kind of flush with the body of the car. Yeah. In one way or another. He's got like electric car ears on this loaf of his. Yeah. It's what makes his face so frustrating to get into.

Right. Yeah. He's tapping those ears and the mouth just isn't going to open. Mm-hmm. Yeah. You kind of get the sense that some people like mansplaining how to use the ears. This guy is Arturus and it didn't look like it was fun to play him with the long face. He's got the entire episode. Yeah, but he's got a hell of a knack for pattern recognition. He's he's helped in some of their trade negotiations

because he can just pick up a language at the drop of a hat. And this is an idea that is very exciting to the captain because she's like, well, does this translate? Can you recognize patterns in math problems also? And he's like, yeah, a pattern's a pattern. So they go right to the ass lab. She was gonna walk him to his accommodations.

Hey, maybe stop off at the condo first. Maybe get this guy set up. I'm sure he'd like to take off his shoes. Introduce him to Ensign Hospitality. Yeah, but that's not the case at all. Janeway gets this look on her face. And she's like, we're going to the ass lab right now. And seven's in there and they start working on this code.

Yeah. And then Arturus kind of studies seven at the same time. Yeah. So he is a, of a species that the board have not yet successfully assimilated. And there's a little, like, there's a little interesting eyes acting that Raywise does here to, yeah.

You know, like, you see why nobody else in the scene notices it, but it's definitely relevant to him that there's a Borgs on board. It's interesting how in retrospect, Lesterous looks like Revenge. You're much more attractive than the average drone. I am no longer part of the collective. Because watching this scene for the first time, I was like, eh, man, Arteris, don't.

Oh, man, I really read it in a different way because I was thinking back on... Will he compliments her appearance? Yeah, but like, I feel like that was like over-correcting because, oh, you think that's part of the cover-up? Yeah, like we've had other aliens show up on board that are like, we gotta kill the Borgs right now. And the captain be like, no, you're not like,

she's a member of my crew, you're not allowed to kill her. And I kind of got the sense that he was saying like, oh yeah, like love me a Borgs, no problem between you and me. Right. Love the band, hate the fans. Yeah. Yeah, the way he describes the Borgs as a kind of weather is an interesting description. He harbors no specific ill will at seven.

Yeah. Weather. They're fucking awesome life, but it sucks because like the crowd is just all they want to do is assimilate you. So it does not take him long to solve the math problem here. Like it is in this scene. If anything is gonna get cracked It's gonna happen in the ass lab, right? I mean, a traxulating recursion matrix is all it takes to crack that ass. The answers just start dumping out. Yeah.

Pretty fast. Yeah, like Adam, after a hard night of drinking. They're like, this is more than one screen can contain. We actually need to go multiple screens on this, like a fucking sports bar. Yeah. They've got a blurry video of an admiral that isn't intelligible, but they also have a screen that has some coordinates and it's like,

I think Starfleet wants us to go there, but it's only 10 light years away, let's go. Easy. Nobody is like, what if it's a place they don't want us to go? What if it's like a void this at all costs? Yeah, no matter what. It's just coordinates. When they arrive at the coordinates, we're back on the bridge and we see that there's a ship waiting

for them and everything about it is very star-fleety in appearance. But what seems haunted about it is that it's not responding to hails. There's no one aboard. It doesn't seem damaged. And like all the lights are on. It's just there. Yeah. This place isn't even a tomb. No, it's not. It's fine. It's like the upper part. It's the church above the tomb, right? I was very excited and I saw this ship where you excited to see the USS shovel. I mean, I was shocked that and I saw this ship. Were you excited to see the USS shovel? I mean, I was shocked that this is a mistake that they made so long ago and then just, let's go ahead and make another shovel. We can't improve the shovel, right?

No way. The shovel is a flawless starship design. Yeah. Yeah. So Janeway without a lot of answers, decides to send over a deskbuster club and Chico Tay and Paris and two vodka the ones to go over.

But when Janeway stays behind, she isn't super jacked up by the possibilities here. Everyone's excited on the bridge, except for her and Archeris asks her why. She's like, I've gotten my Hopeballs kicked too many times. What I will admit, I'm meaning toward Hope this time. He gets right in her nook to ask her about this. Yeah.

Yeah. I mean, I feel like just having someone in your nook is enough to cause a starfleet to abandon hope at this point. I think so much about being a captain or an authority figure of any kind is probably like staying on an even keel, right? Yeah, especially if you're in a sailboat with a keel. Yeah. Or if you're reviewing movies and your first name is Pauline, yeah, that was so fucking stupid.

I liked it. I'm just gonna, I open up the flap of my recording tent and I'm just looking out in the middle distance after that. It's fucking. Didn't Pauline Kale basically retire from reviewing movies when Tom Cruise became a movie star because she was like, I just can't fucking do it anymore. Oh, really? Like, I think, I think, finally, the perfect specimen. No, I think her farewell column was like, if this is what movies are gonna be,

then I'm not interested any longer. Wow. Wow. That seems about 20 years premature. Yeah. I mean, it's an opinion that many would say, aged flawlessly. On the dotless, we see that this is a salarium class ship. It is so bright.

And it's got like an East Street band amount of keyboards on stage. It does. Like oriented in that high low configuration. Yeah, yeah, yeah. But also the one that's kind of a cross so that you can do that thing where you're like arms like spread out in front of the stage. So fun.

Yeah, it's so cool. Yeah, this is a ship built for performance. Yeah. Like you wonder why the keyboard is orthogonal to the front of the stage and tell you see the keyboardist get on both keyboards at the same time and face the audience to rock out. It looks so cool. Wow. Wow, indeed. Of course, it's long dead.

Do it. This one to me, don't be careful, because I'm gonna say this once. Do it. Is this the same bridge as the, as the Andy Dickship? As the Andy Dickship? Can we just call it the Dickship? The US is longer. The The dogger need deuterium.

The I'm trying to find that bridge in that episode. I don't believe it's the same. It's, yeah, it's not beige enough. Yeah, it's not exactly the same. I feel like they might be reusing parts of it though. That would make sense. I mean, Prometheus, that's what it was called.

That would make it economical, which is one of the main things about Star Trek. Yeah, absolutely. It's definitely not the exact same bridge. A redress at minimum. Two Voc looks at the screen. You know, all Starfleet ships have the big screen with the schematic, like the side view cut out of the ship, and he looks at it, he turns to Jakote and he's like, where the fuck are the Nacells?

This is an astarphle ship. Heeey, heeey. Got a shovel face and a known Nacell's booty. What are we dealing with here? Yeah, they're like, man, this thing launched like a couple of months ago and it's here now. Yeah. And it kind of looks like

it got sent there automatically. Right. Like they just put it on autopilot and sent it toward the D quad toward about where they thought the Voyager might be. And they nailed it. And it they're like cool like Starfleet gave us a new ship that can get us home quickly. I love. I couldn't get out of my head in this scene because when you're trying to solve a mystery like this, it seems like the very first thing you do is look up towards the ceiling and say,

computer, what is this ship for? And then you would get an answer. But no one does that. Everyone has to go play keyboards on their own. Yeah, but they rock out. And as they rock out, they don't quite get bangers, but the ship like rumbles.

Yeah. When you have a ship full of keyboards, you're playing soft bangers, right? Mm-hmm. Yeah. Soft rock, boat bangers. Yacht bangers, right? Mm-hmm, yeah. Soft rock boat bangers? Yacht bangers. Uh-huh. And so they're like, man, that must be the engine.

So they go down to the engine room. And the engine room looks like an exhibit in like a kid's science museum. I wanted Ensen Kim to touch this thing so bad and like shoot his hair straight up. Ha-ha-ha-ha. Ha-ha-ha-ha. Oh, that would have been fun. This thing is powered by a Tesla coil. this thing so bad and like shoot his hair straight up. That would have been fun. This thing is powered by a Tesla coil.

It is. It's not a traditional warp core. It takes a while to figure out that it's a quantum slipstream drive. Yeah. And like the moment they do, the ship starts moving on its own. It jumps to this quantum slipstream and it takes the Voyager two entire days to catch up to where they drop out of warp.

Imagine spending two days on a ship that you don't understand that isn't meant to have a crew and probably doesn't have facilities as a result, right? Well, we learn later, it doesn't have replicators. Like, they were probably fucking starving. I could have used a lot more detail about those two days. Yeah. Like, this is not a cliffhanger episode,

but if you give me 20 minutes of the transit of the two days, it might be worth going over to the cliff. Yeah. Instead, we just cut to a McLaughlin group. Is your want? Where they're looking at the cleaned up video from Admiral Hayes saying, like, yep, as you suspected, this is a ship that we sent out to you

so that you can get home. It's going to be rough. It's not going to be comfortable, but it'll get you home. We set it up to give the first people who beam over a demonstration of how fast it can go. So hope that was good for you guys. Yeah, I hope that was fun.

And like it cuts over to them and they're all like one because they haven't had anything to eat in two days. They cut to some b-roll of Admiral Hayes like slapping the hood of the dotless, going like, this thing really moves. It's only four cylinders, but don't let that fool you. It becomes super clear in this scene that this is the life raft intended for them to board.

Like the idea is to leave the Voyager behind. And I was thinking, is this it? Will Janeway finally get to blow up her ship as she's always wanted to? I wanted an auto-destruct scene in this episode. It's so bad. I wanted it so bad. I'm going to pull up the ship. But first there's one piece of static film still on this one screen that I've been waiting to peel off.

Just because once you peel it off, it's never quite the same after that. I'm going to peel this piece of plastic back on the screen. And then I'm going to touch the screen and then I'm gonna touch the screen and when I touch it that will start the auto-destruct sequence. I've brought Felix over to the taughtless where he's going to chop the celery very slowly. This individual stock of celery makes such a unique sound. I just love it. Now that we're over on the doneless, just to be extra sure that the Voyager blows up, I'm gonna let a folly of every single torpedo the doneless has go.

We're just gonna play the audio really quietly. The meeting concludes and everyone is about as jacked as they've ever been about the potential to go home. And Tuvaak hangs back in the cut after this meeting. Janeway asks him to remain. They talk about like, yeah, this seems like exactly what we've always been hoping for. And yet, it also seems too good to be true. Right.

Because their luck started to change as soon as our tourists arrived. Yeah. And that's weird, because they're used to things not going their way most of the time. Is there something suspicious about this man? Why don't we put someone on him for the rest of the episode to find out? Yeah. So they're going to meet this new challenge with an abundance of caution. There's coffee in that good old fashioned paranoia.

Keep me posted. And that means not just embracing the new ship, but also learning everything they can about it, and seeing if they can adapt some of the principles of propulsion from that ship to the Voyager. Right, because they would be sad to have to destroy or leave the Voyager behind, right? Yeah.

It's a great point someone makes, because they're like, the Voyager is proven technology. Yeah. It's solid as seers. It's not gonna get us home fast, but it'll get us home. Yeah, we don't know shit about the don'tless. It's kind of like the first model year of a car. And they've always got bugs and things

that need to be worked out. Oh, guys, guys, we can't take the don'tless back. No car play. Forget it. It doesn't have car play yet. Yeah. You know what? You almost got me rental car company. I almost took this one off the lot.

Nope. Nope. That happening. Yeah. It may be a less quality vehicle that I take next, but it's going to have car play. Yeah. My car didn't have car play when we got it

and then they added car play in like a software update. And it was like, this is like a new car, this is rule. I got a second new car for the price of one. Yeah, that's great. It's really fun. That's one good part of the future, right? Yeah.

Let's keep our fingernails desperately dug into this one good part of the future. Try to maintain a little bit of optimism. We get a bunch of cross-faded logs next. Yeah, log montage, if you will. We get Janeway's log where she basically restates how suspicious she is of our tourists and maybe the Dauntless. And seven's like, you know, I'm going to be a pretty big part of this mission given what I know about slip streams,

et cetera. And Jane weighs like three months from now. Will I be lightly petting my dog and getting heavy petting from Tom Mervins? And then seven drops the beat. Will I adapt to human civilization a single or a one billion to individualists? She does indeed. This is the first time where seven gives voice to the doubt she has about returning to Earth. She's like, yeah, they don't treat all XPs like Picard, right?

Like Picard, definitely the worst. He got pretty good treatment after going home again. He rolled around in the mud with his brother, but... He's still got to be like camped into the flagship, but he's like a common-dont of the Starfleet Academy now, right? The problem with seven is she doesn't have rank. The way Picard did or does. Yeah. And then they managed to get the facial, like the tattoo removal clinic that Picard went to, like, could do facial. Yeah.

And the one that Seven went to could not. Would your feelings about Picard have changed if they had to leave an idolathen on him forever? Oh, wow. That would have been an interesting choice in TNG. Or a scar of some kind, like any scar. Yeah, he had a very like digital looking scar at the end of best of both worlds, part two. And yeah, that would have been interesting

if they'd left that. Yeah. He's just got a very long boregarm. Like, look, we could remove everything. Like, and I mean everything yeah but for some reason this this boregarm presents a pretty big problem so yeah you can have to figure out a way to live with it he's like why don't you leave that I've found it helps me get something off the high shelf if I need to I don't have to get a

step stool out sometimes it wakes me up. I call it the stranger. Seven and BLT are kind of talking about like, who's gonna be in hotter shit when they get home? Yeah. Because seven is like, yeah, so like you'll probably get arrested. That's probably the first thing that'll happen to you. And BLT like flips this right back in her face.

She's like, you're an XB. Everyone is gonna hate you. Even if you're not arrested, they're gonna hate you. Say what you will about the make-wease, but the make-wease never threatened to destroy the earth threatened to destroy the Earth. God, before we recorded, I ate an entire full-sized Snickers bar. What was the last time you did that? Geez. Jesus fucking Christ, Adam.

My stomach is looking up at me like, fuck you. Why, father? I gotta say, feeling great otherwise. Wow, wow. You guys did full size candy bar house for Halloween? We did. Is that what a dual income no kids house does? Since being an adult, I've always been full size candy bar house.

Like an adult who lives in a place with trick or treaters, fuck yeah. And I'm surprised that more people don't do it. Kids were delighted to choose their own full size candy bar at my house. Wow, I bet they were. It should be a common place. Yeah, it's just that when I walked into that drugstore and saw that they had the breezes, things in dark chocolate,

it was like, except no substitute. This is the greatest Halloween candy I've ever seen. I didn't even know that they had the the breezes' thins in dark chocolate was like, except no substitute. This is the greatest Halloween candy I've ever seen. I didn't even know that they made these. Don't you feel like dark chocolate is for adults though? I don't think kids would like those. I greatly preferred dark chocolate when I was a kid. Well, you were an adult child. Yeah, I would set down my copy of The New York Times

and eat a little piece of dark chocolate from Sharfenberger. Chuckle to yourself about the New Yorker cartoon. Yeah. I'd put on my sheepskin slippers and pad back to the library to Peru's copy of middle march. Yeah, that's you. You really were a tan and bomb. So Seven has got some new misgivings.

Like she had her misgivings before, her ambivalence about, this is the plan. She's been budding heads with Janeway more lately. It's been made like a part of the dialogue all through this episode. Like yeah, seven and Janeway aren't getting along great right now. In a way that like, I was like,

wasn't the last episode one? Like the one where the most trust possible was extended to seven and she did a great job with it. Yeah, it does feel like a song sequence on the records kind of issue here with the last episode in this one. Yeah, so she's now like really starting to think about does she even want to go? Yeah.

And she is thinking about this and leaves the engineering section while Harry does some solo haunted house scanning. I couldn't tell if this was like a hologram or something that he scanned. Like the whole panel kind of like blinks when he does this. It kind of does that hollow shimmer, right? Yeah. I thought that that's what it was, but it also looked like there was a force field when he held up his hand. Like it looked like he got zapped by something. Yeah, there were some sparks. Yeah. He calls this into two-vac, and it's a suspense edit. We don't get to check back in on this for a little while. Right, because at this point, we've crosscut over to the Aslab, where Janeway has not told the computer to erect the masturbation protocols

on the door while she looks at Earth. A lot, a lot of pictures of Earth, big, beautiful Earth on the screen. Yeah, she's put the ASLAB in private browsing mode, but she didn't lock the door. It's like a rookie mistake, Janeway. Yeah, can't do that. And she's got a lot of tabs open.

It's not just Earth. Got some Venus in there, you know? Yeah, can't do that. And she's got a lot of tabs open. It's not just earth. Got some Venus in there, you know? Oh, and Uranus. Mm, totally. She's going to save that for the young though. Based on some of the ideas that Arteras gave her, she's designed a new decryption algorithm that she's getting ready to try on that Federation signal. But before she can do it, she has a little hard to heart with seven about like, Hey, like I know that this might seem like really intimidating to you. Like you're getting used to humans. And now you're going to be on a planet full of them. Just here to say seven, you've really come a long way, baby.

The visual language of Star Trek in scenes like this is so often like dirty single, dirty single, dirty single, push, commercial, right? Yeah. But there is a very specific thing that happens in this episode that I feel like Star Trek only saves for the most intense moments, which is the profile double. Yeah. Like the profile two shot, the Will and Tom Riker shot, because they

both kind of turn into each other in the beginning. And that to me, that said a lot about how intense this moment was about to get. Oh, interesting. I didn't see that as a shot of two women facing each other. I saw that as a candlestick. I saw that as a candlestick. I saw that as a candlestick. I saw that as a candlestick. I saw that as a candlestick. I saw that as a candlestick. I saw that as a candlestick. Did I watch a different episode? Yeah.

What was that an electric company thing or a sesame street thing where those things come to life and they start talking to each other? Oh, man, I don't remember. I know the family guy did a bit about that, but I can't remember what the original source material is. Seven is basically saying, like, yeah, I don't think I'm going to go with you. And the captain is like, like fun, you're not. Like, you owe this to us. And I thought that the captain really went all over the place in her argument for why

Seven needed to come with them. Especially when the cold open is about learning when to give up. Yeah. her argument for why Seth and needed to come with them. Especially when the cold open is about learning when to give up. Yeah. I totally felt empathy for Seven Situation here because she's like, I want to quit sort of like the lesson you were trying to teach me at the beginning of this episode.

And Dano is making the case that like Seven sort of owes it to them. And Seven is like, what are you talking about? I've like done my duty for God in countries so many times. Didn't this remind you of Rocky IV? Because Janeway is kind of the Adrian Balboa to Seven of Nine's Rocky, right? Where Rocky finally realizes that she's afraid. Is that the wrong with being afraid?

The rest for me and the rest. This is the moment where seven goes into the holiday and drives a Lamborghini Jalpa through all 14 gears in the gearbox through like a thousand different tunnels in LA. So that part did remind me of Rocky Ford. The argument not so much. The argument reminded me of a different film because when Janeway calls seven a coward and Seven says if you're any other woman, I would kill you where you stand. Yeah, like that reminded me of a different movie But I can't put my finger on which one right anyways the algorithm works and they finally get to watch this other

Video from Admiral Hayes and it is not a hopeful video video from Admiral Hayes. And it is not a hopeful video. It's a real like, hey, like, boy, thanks for letting us know you're out there. Wish we could do something about it. I mean, we'll keep putting our heads together or whatever, but yikes. What a drag. I really thought a lot about whether I or not I'd want to share this information with you. But TMZ got the footage, so I guess I'm obligated to show you, here is Tom Mervins being mauled by your dogs. I don't know why they just turned on him. Yeah, pretty bad. Just brace yourself, this is gonna be very upsetting.

All right, let's show that clip. We're leaving. For some reason, those Irish setters dined on his body for days. I love the take that Kate Mulkrew gives when the camera cuts back to her at the end of this video, like rolling her eyes, like again, and it will never take hope seriously, ever again. Yeah. I'll never get another boyfriend, like fuck this. I'm staying single forever.

I'm sure his hell looks that way. After Tom Mervins, there will be no one for me. G Radio's up to TuVVoc and TuVoc is there in the engineering section of the USS shovel with Harry Kim and they kind of compare notes. Captain Jane was like, yeah, so there's another video and it seems to kind of contradict everything in the first one and TuVoc's like, yeah,

there's like alien tech inside this ship and we're kind of suspicious. And Janeway turns to seven and says, why don't we go get some weps? I think this might be a good time for weps. We got to have weps. He's the key. Angry enough to grab weapons is such a great version of this moment too. Yeah. They could just beam him into the brig or whatever, but they want to have this confrontation that they have on the Dauntless Bridge. It seems like our tourists is like getting ready to hit the purple button of go to slip stream. I love this. This moment wasn't supposed to be funny, but it was very funny to me because of the Ray

Wise take. Yeah, yeah. He's like, I wouldn't want to do that. It's like a big red button. It's like, you just got to touch it, you know. Yeah. It's like a big red button. It's like, you just got to touch it, you know? Yeah. It's like that meme. It's like there's two purple buttons

and they're labeled similar things and Ray Wise is sweating trying to decide which one to push. Yeah. So Janeway Beams aboard with Dustbusters out with a full on security team and publicly interrogates Arteris about what's up? Yeah, but he pretty quickly turns the accusation around

on seven. He's like, she's the one that's desperate not to go there. She must have messed with the data stream. She's the one that's been working on it. I love a scene that demonstrates a surprising amount of alien strength because when Arteris decides that his excuses aren't working and and gets shot like and starts taking human shields and stuff like the phaser beams have no effect on

him and it takes two security people to drag them away from one of the keyboards but it's too late, Ben. He's hit a demo button. Yeah. And this chip starts playing a kind of annoying upbeat, little musical track. Do-do-do-do-do-do-do-do-do-do-do-do-do-do-do-do-do-do-do-do-do-do-do-do-do-do-do-do-do-do-do-do-do-do-do-do-do-do-do-do-do-do-do-do-do-do-do-do-do-do-do-do-do-do-do-do-do-do-do-do-do-do-do-do-do-do-do-do-do-do-do-do-do-do-do-do-do-do-do-do-do-do-do-do-do-do-do-do-do-do-do-do-do-do-do-do-do-do-do-do-do-do-do-do-do-do-do-do-do-do-do-do-do-do-do-do-do-do-do-do-do-do-do-do-do-do-do-do-do-do-do-do-do-do-do-do-do-do-do-do-do-do-do-do-do-do-do-do-do-do-do-do-do-do-do-do-do-do-do-do-do-do-do-do-do-do-do-do-do-do-do-do-do-do-do-do-do-do-do-do-do-do-do-do-do-do-do-do-do-do-do-do They're getting ready to go to slipstream. Like, people start beaming out like in groups. Yeah. They can't beamed them out all at once,

but they're grabbing them as quickly as they can. They had to beam them out in shifts. And meanwhile, the bridge is like shifting into a different color way. It's going all evil. Yeah. I like to evil bridge. Yeah.

That's great. Everyone gets beamed away besides Janeway and Seven, and when the dotless goes into slipstream warp, I was like, stop the episode. This is the natural point of hanging cliff, right? Yeah, this is where you do it, but no. We have 14 minutes of episode left. Yeah.

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their envoage and they want to hit the pedal on their own slipstream drive, right? Yeah. And Paris is like, are you fucking nuts? We haven't even tested it. We may all turn into lizards. Sounds great. Chico Tay is like, all right, Tom, just between you and me, I brought a huge chunk of rock up from my last away mission. I've

been carving it into a bathtub. If we don't rescue the captain, this has all been for nothing. Lot of work. Back in the Dauntless Bridge, we get the backstory. We get the why. Our tourist tells them that he's taking seven and Janeway home. But his home's been destroyed by Janeway's deal with the Borks. Right. So it turns out he is pissed off about what happened with species 4.2069 because when species 4.2069, because when species 4.2069 started their war with the Borgs, it gave his people some hope that maybe the Borgs would finally be destroyed.

Yeah. Yeah, they were laying back in the cut, hoping they'd destroy each other. That's not what ended up happening. And as a result, like with the Borg being permitted to survive that war, his home world was assimilated. His people were scattered throughout the galaxy. Jane was like, no, no, no, no, no, like you don't understand like species 4.2069 was going to cleanse everything, like they're worse than the board. That's the whole point of the species is that they're worse. She never makes that case though.

This is agonizing. He's so pissed off about this. He's so bent on Rohingya. What does it mean? It means a matter. It means Rohingya. She has context that would help him understand why the choices got made the way they did. She doesn't share them.

Now. And now would be a great time to share them because they're 10 minutes away from Borg space. And he's like, I was hoping to get your whole crew assimilated, but you two will do just fine. And they're like, you're going to get assimilated to dude. And he's like, small price to pay. It's worth it. We're all going to live forever, man. Yeah. Yeah. And he gets out a little mirror with a bunch of rails of cocaine on it. Starts offering it to them. Do you guys want to get the scorpion ready for this? Back on Voyager. It looks like there's some shimmering from some slipstream action happening, but the

ships go into slow. It's just barely impulse at this point. And they can't hold things together. They start pushing it and like all of the reporting from around the bridge are like the hull starting to buckle. Like it's too hot. It's not working, and then just suddenly, like, they're in it. Yeah. And Tom Parris is like, found the slipstream. They're not even that far behind the USS shovel. Like, he says, we're just a few minutes behind them. Yeah. That seems unlikely. One of the classic joke cuts in Voyager. Yeah.

She code says, if I know the captain, she's already got a plan, and we cut to the brig on the USS shovel where the captain is talking about how she wishes she had a plan. One of the great comedy edits in Star Trek happens this episode with that, which doesn't say a lot about the history of comedy in Star Trek at this moment in time. Yeah, yeah. But quickly she comes up with a plan and the plan is turn on enough Borg stuff in seven that seven can walk through the force field. Yeah. This is a pretty fun

magic trick here. Yeah. They're working on this and doing bits on assimilation. Like to talk about like, yeah, like we really've come to board goger heads, but when we're assimilated, our minds will be one. And so I'll understand why you're being such an asshole all the time or whatever. It really feels like a scene that proves that inside every combat should be a toolkit. Because when Janeway cracks hers open and makes with the handcuffs key, yeah, yeah. To work on Seven's dolphin with, I'm like,

didn't worth make like a personal shield out of his combat at one point. That is great! What else is in there? There's so much shit in there. I love this. I love the scene for another reason too, because it's subtle, but it's definitely in frame for almost all of it.

Like while Janeway is working on the dolphin, there's an intimacy of her other hand and where it is on her shoulder. Yeah. And I thought that was suggestive of something like maybe a piece being brokered or affection where maybe there wasn't any before, but like there was caring to that in a way that seemed unusual. A capacity for closeness that these two characters haven't seemed to have for each other. Right. You know how close two characters are by the other hand and what it's doing.

Yeah. Seven is like, yeah, you know, like when you were calling me a coward before, you were actually kind of right. I was afraid about going back to the A quad. Yeah. And, you know, I just got upset because I don't know if I'm ready to meet Tom Mervins. Seems like a pretty important due to you. Yeah. I'm not great with dogs. Yeah. Once the dogs get ahold of my implants, they just start yanking like a massive head wound hairy. So the can't stop this ship, but they can turn it.

They're in the engineering of the don't list. And they decided to try firing all the thrusters on one side to point it in a different direction. I love that Archeris has kept the federation keyboards going in engineering. Like, yeah, yeah. He changed the bridge to his own computer config, but he hasn't changed everything.

Yeah. But yeah, this turning the ship thing really overwhelms the inertial dampers, and it's all he can do to like hang on to the console and go over and turn off the propulsion. I love seeing ships and Star Trek move like this in unusual ways. Yeah, it's cool. The idea that like there is no shutting off the engine, it's instead like grab the wheel and jerk it into the ditch is the plan. Yeah.

So Janeway goes up to the bridge and tries to talk him out of his revenge scheme. I've wondered if he was going to be tempted into this. Like there's a moment where he's like hearing her and you see him like consider what she says for a second and then he like reaches down and pushes a button and it like war-flighting seven across the engineering so I can't, I was like, oh, I guess he's not going to be talked out of his evil plan. This part really hit for me

because I love seeing what the difference was between listening and hearing for this archerous character. Like, yeah, he'll take an audience with Janeway, but like he is totally resolute in what's happening here. Absolutely. And there's like the coldness to him gives me chills to think about like there was never ever, ever any other way that this was gonna end.

But it does have another way of ending at him, and that's with a bunch of bangers being dropped. We see an exterior where the Voyager fires what has to be the remaining torpedoes they have aboard, right? Yeah. Yeah, they're going crematorium only for crew deaths from here. Or just like old coffee bags.

Yeah. Some people are gonna get buried in the arboretum and have a tree planted over them because they're kind of groovy. Yeah. Does it surprise you're having arboretum like the enterprise does? I don't think so.

I don't think it's got that. Kest tried to set up a grow-up there, but that she did. Less than an arboretum. Yeah. Yeah.- She did. Less than an arboridum. Yeah, yeah. Mostly air plants. It was just hydroponics. It wouldn't really work to hang a body on a pole

and then put little plants up and down the extremities, right? Yeah, and it wouldn't work with hydroponics either because like, it'd be like, you know, the body they find at the beginning of silence of the land. Like, it's been in water for a long time. Like, anytime you went down there to harvest tomatoes, you'd be like, oh, God, what is that? Just put some, some Vicks vapor rub on your upper lip.

Yeah, yeah, gnarly. So, the beam, the captain out and being stepping out. Everybody's rescued. Arturus winds up in Borg space. What an ironic and for this character. There's that moment though, Ben, that's a lot like the episode where data is made to sit in the chair. Yeah. Remember the end of that episode where he may or may not have shot. Right.

And the question of that is like really something to ponder at the end of that episode. I feel like there's a moment in this app that maybe the episode itself isn't even interested in it. Yeah. But there's a moment where they could have beamed Arterus away before taking the off ramp in the slipstream. Right. And no one even makes an effort to do it.

Like, you could save him from himself. And they choose not to. That's a great point. Didn't even think of it. But yeah, he meets his end as a member of the collective. They're going to need a lot of dolphins for that giant head, right? Like, they're going to have to go to like some backup cubes. Hey, get an extra big dolphin, guys. No, the long arms, long arms fine.

Like, standard issue arm is just great. Just gonna need a great big dolphin. Like dolphin triple XL, not enough. I was trying to think of like when it was that they said farewell to the Borgs, and it was like a long time ago, right? This is such a great question with how they broke this story, because if for some reason, if Voyager had not made it to the off ramp and had slip streamed with the dotless all the way back to Borg space. Could Janeway have said we have a deal,

we had a deal, not it, and cruise away? Like could she have brokered for their lives in that moment or would it not have mattered were the terms of the deal over? Yeah, hard to know like whether the board is gonna be trusted with a deal. I mean, I've heard that we're going to see the boards again on Star Trek Voyager, so maybe that will be

answered at a later date, right? Oh, yeah, buckle up. You're not gonna believe how much boards we're still in for. I'm gonna guess a no deal. Ha, ha, ha, ha. Yeah, I wondered if it was like the same part of Borg space that they left, because like that means they basically went back to episode two of this season. But then like at the end, like they use the slipstream drive one more time until it burns

out and they're like, well, we can't ever use that again for reasons. We have several more seasons left of this show. Like did they backtrack? Did they lose a lot of time? I don't give us a context for what happened in terms of their like overall goal. Yeah. Instead we get a button. Yeah.

Button, but no context. The entire crew has been ordered to take some R and R and part of the way that Janeway and Seven spend theirs is back on the velocity court. Yeah, a little velocity book end. Yeah. Nice play. You almost had me almost. And Seven is working on the slipstream technology.

She's going to keep working on that. You know, you know, now that the thing that's occupied everyone, cracking this Starfleet code is done. She's going to keep working on that. And the cat was like, wow, that's interesting, because you were kind of like having misgivings about going to Earth at the beginning of this episode. And Seven is feeling more optimistic about that now, feeling more like she wants to give it a crack, like integrating into a human society. So that's it.

You've just given up on becoming good at velocity, have you? Yeah. The amount of trash talk between these two characters absolutely wild. Did you like this episode, Ben? You know, I'm really easy to get along with most of the time. But I don't like bullets, I don't like red, and I don't like you. I really like this too.

I did like this episode. There's a couple of, I agree with you that there's like an episode order problem with this one being butted right up against one. But I thought it was a good episode, a nice, a nice non cliffhanger end to a season. I thought I really appreciated that part of it. Yeah. If you're going to go with something that isn't making a cliff kid of me, make it something like this.

Yeah. Right to the size of your story. Yeah. Not the other way around. How about you? Yeah, I did like this episode, even though I was kind of bracing for a mess, like you see that credit salad at the beginning of an app, and I'm sort of prepared for something that isn't as good as this episode that we got.

Right. Yeah. As odd as the order of seven and Janeway's relationship is in terms of whether it's good or bad or whatever, I do really like that their story has become about how difficult it is when you have expectations for someone and like you're teaching them, maybe you're a mentor or you're a teacher or whatever, but this is a Janeway situation. She's like, I'm making this person a person again

and trying to grow them up in a childbirth analogy. And it fucking sucks. I thought she was gonna be a doctor or a lawyer and she wants to be a musician. Like put this kid through four years of university and he wants to be a fucking Star Trek podcaster. Right. God fucking damn it.

Oh. Really? What a fucking society clip. What did you get a partner with? As he has no real and relevant skills at this point. He's fucking almost 40 years old, and he's like, asks,

how about Star Trek for a living? What? You try to cheat some responsibility, and this is what happens. Yeah. I think it is good to see examples of this in television. And examples of it being okay. Yeah.

She's not gonna be a doctor or a lawyer, and that's all right. Well, my son is gonna be a Star Trek podcast, or it's the family business, and I will accept your other choice from him. Yeah. Then I will not accept any other part of our show besides priority-win messages.

Okay. Yeah, well. I demand them. Acceptance is key added. Why don't we go check out what's in the inbox? That's the final stage of Star Trek podcasting. Yeah. Priority one message from Starfleet coming in on Secured Channel. Need a supplement on that. A supplement on that?

A supplement. Yes, extra. The interest alone could be enough to buy this ship! I need a supplement. supplement? supplement supplement Yeah, it's extra The interest alone could be enough to buy this ship Our first P1 here is of a promotional nature atom Goes like this Friends of DeSoto I'm a doctor, not an engineer, and I need your help Apart from being an OGFOD, I'm a dad and ER doctor and just became a patented

inventor. I've created a self-locking hanging device and was recently granted a pat. Keep that away from the card's mom. And David Caridine. Am I right? Is this a sex device? Doctor, now I need help to license or monetize it. I have no experience in this area, but I'm sure there's an FOG out there that does. Is there? And a photo! Who can help? Also, totally by accident, the device kind of looks like a don. Check it out at felock.com. That's phalock.com. I think you're going to want to change the brand name. It was like your first monetization procedure.

Yeah, the version one of this was hotel room jack-off device. Now I went here and this has nothing to do with masturbation. It is exactly how it's described a new patented self-locking hanging device is clearly what this is. It's for hanging things on the wall, like picture frames and stuff. Yeah, we see all these gifts on here showing the different use cases. And like, if it's open and you close a door on it, it'll close itself. Or if you want to hang a picture on it, it like collapses down to flush.

I love the copy on this. Entirely by accident, this device does resemble something. Ha ha ha ha. Ah, man, this is great. I hope somebody reaches out to phalllock.com and talks to this doctor. You know what? This doctor should also put in for a P1 message

on an episode of the greatest enterprise because Dr. Fox's phaloc seems like a tongue twister that would be perfect for this thing. Oh yeah, if you could get the Star Trek license and market it as Dr. Fox's phaloc, I think it would fly off the shelves. Wow, So phallac.com was made on Squarespace and this doctor used Adam Regussius offer code. But Ben and Adam, if this works out, they'll upgrade to the $100 level at the next max fund drive.

Wow. So you can help us and help the phallac go to market. If you are a business person who knows how to take an invention and get it mass produced and get it on shelves and stores. I am living in a home without anything on the walls. I need a hundred of these now. Wow. It's going to take a long time to 3D print 100 phallox, but a...

Damn it! Oh! I got to leave bare walls and nope! Wait a minute, hey, here we go! You got it! Fuck! It's gonna be okay, man. I know that a friend of DeSoto is gonna reach out

and make this happen. I think so too. I love the idea that our P1 inbox could become like the next shark tank Awesome, this is great. Ben our next priority when message is from a mysterious benefactor And it is too Ben and Adam. Message goes like this. The Jurassic Trek. That's all. That's the message. Excuse me while I go watch the above water

submarine movie Greyhound, starring SirMathy Hanks. Yeah, it's a good B1 mysterious benefactor. Yeah, I like it a lot. I'm a big fan of that movie and all of the works of Sir Thalmathy Hanks. I mean Greyhound is a submarine movie. There's tons of submarines in that movie. That's the main thing they're fighting. Sir, Thamethy Hanks. It's like, uh, it's like you bit your tongue. Yeah. Yeah. Does this mysterious benefactor have a tongue problem?

You get a tongue problem, mister? Is that ER doctor from the other P1,1, like an emergency ear nose and throat person? Maybe we could hook these two people up. Maybe mysterious benefactor accidentally put a phalloc in his mouth. Oh. Now he's dealing with the consequences. This could be great though. If mysterious benefactor has some like marketing

and like supply chain skills, this could be a match made in heaven. I like this. Yeah. Yeah, well maybe you can meet your professional match in our P1 inbox. That would be great. Well maybe you have an idea for a thing that does another thing that could also be called a dick joke.

That would be great. Please go check that stuff out. And get your P1 today, set your future up properly. MaximumPun.org slash JumboTrust. You don't need a dick named product idea, right? To do a P1, you don't need that. But it helps. All right, it does. Yeah.

Good. Hey, Ben. What's that, Adam? Did you find yourself a drunk Shimoda? I did. I'm giving it to the security people that grab Arcturists when they're on the bridge of his ship. The two people that get in the physical altercation

with him trying to prevent him from pulling down that big shiny handle just gave it there all in a way that really delighted me. It gave it there all in a way that really delighted me. It was just a very brief moment, but they were very funny. Worth going back and watching just for that one little moment. I have a related Shimoda Ben. I thought, this two-box still work security anymore. It sure feels like Janeway took his job because every security decision made in this episode, and for most of them this season, I feel like Janeway has been the one to make those calls. I feel like it feels like season one and two, Tuvac was all up in

Janeway's shit about security and like making suggestions. Yeah. And doing things where even she was like, you know, two Valkyrie being a little hard with the security right now. Maybe we should be a little more chill. But now two bucks nowhere to be found. Yeah. On most of these decisions. Well, maybe he got tired of being wrong. I don't know.

Yeah. Yeah. I don't know. I think like this might be a good time to say this. Now that it's the end of the season four, a Voyager, kind of feels like Tuvaq has been kind of sideline as a character. Yeah. I think that partly like not having casts around to tell how to use her brain powers has given him less to do.

Yeah. He needs another job. Yeah. Well, could you modus, Adam? Let me tell you about next week's episode. It's season five episode one, Nate. Kruemaral hits an all-time low when Voyager must spend two years crossing an expanse devoid of any stars or signs of life.

Time to break out the steasus tubes, boys! The steasus tubes barely got cold. Yeah, yeah. I hope you didn't de-replicate those because we're going to need them. Yeah. Let me tell you about how we're going to do that episode, Adam. For that, I turn to guach.biz slash game. I see we're on square 30 right now, so it looks like I could hit a delta flyer square,

which would take us all the way up to a measure of a man square. Wow. That would be a weird way to start a new season. It would be weird. I could also hit a Neelix's galley square here, so a lot of Potential here on this roll. All right. You're required to learn as you play Roll but no bathtub potential luckily

Holy shit. I did hit the Delta Flyer! We're on square 87. Holy shit. Next week's episode will be a measure of a man. It brings a sense of ordering stability to my universe to know that you're still a pompous ass. Portram is a crucible and it will burn away irrelevance, so we're left with a few of products that true.

When people of good conscience have an honest dispute, we must still sometimes resort to this kind of adversarial system. Hopefully we can make some good law out here. And for good measure, sit on this. Haven't done one of those in a long time. I know. This is the one where we flip a coin at the beginning and one of us has to argue in favor of the episode

and the other has to argue against it. That's exciting. You know, I never did like debate in high school or college and I feel like I'm bad at it. So. All right. It's one of the squares that I'm like low key the most afraid of.

Right. I've got some trepidation going into next week's episode. Right. You don't like arguing and you often, this is what you told me that your therapist says. You're, you're, you're too easy to seed argument ground. Yeah. And I look forward to winning next week's argument with you for that reason.

Just be yourself, Ben. Boy, I should never tell you shit. My therapist says ever again. Wow, well, I'm really looking forward to that. Hey, I'm just looking at the P1 inbox here. Looks like we have a good amount of inventory available in the coming weeks and months. So if you'd like to get a P1 on the show, go ahead and, you know, do it. We're recording this like three weeks ahead of time. So it might fill up, but I would consider this as good a time

as there's been in a long time to get a P1 on the show that will actually happen like with some proximity to when you sign up for it. Yeah. Yeah. We're usually running, you know, three, four months ahead on those. And sometimes as much as six months. And so if you've got a message for somebody or want to find a new business partner, do a P1. And with a holiday gift giving season coming up in, just imagine the look on a grandparents face. Oh, yeah. As they open up a wrapped present, and inside is one of those tags, like if you go to a restaurant and you want to see the menu, you got to take a picture of it. Oh, yeah.

You spend like a good 40 minutes teaching grandma how to- No, how to use a QR code. Yeah, so she finally does that, and she's like, what the hell is this? It's like a web page for a podcast. You got a teacher about what a podcast is. Yeah. So maybe a P1 isn't the perfect get for everyone on your list, but I'm sure you can find something at podshop.biz.

And hey, here's a little something. If you support the show, listen to the most recent bonus episode in the bonus feed for a little discount code. What's the most recent bonus episode? The episode of the Santa Monica Mountains that we just recorded. That's right.

Tuk-tuk-tuk-tuk. Featuring Roxanne Dawson. She's in an episode of Baywatch where she plays a waitress in a restaurant in Mexico. Mm. And if you can believe it, that's not even the most fucked up part of the episode. Yeah. If you bet on a bunch of castonets in the soundtrack, you're wrong. You lost a lot of money.

We got to think Wendy are producer who keeps this whole train on the tracks. We got to thank Adam Rekusia for the original music on the show. He's over there on YouTube and in your pod catcher, to search Adam Rekusia, a pop right up. Got great podcast and great cooking series on YouTube. We got to thank Bill Tilly, who runs our social media. At greatest trek on Insta and if it still exists by the time this is released Twitter as We got a there's got to be like a social network that doesn't

Completely suck ass by the time this comes out right? Well, we'll be on whatever that is like that's an evergreen comment band Yeah Nice yeah, yeah, when you slide into our DMs, you're really sliding in with Bill and us. There we are. Yeah. We should probably increase his hazard pay. Yeah, so we'll see you over on Rumbler. Yeah.

I'm not going to get to the mall. I think I'm not going to. Oh, and we've got to thank Nick Dippmore for the artwork for the show and for helping us out with PodJab. That's it. Yeah. But with that, we will be back at you next time with another great episode of Star Trek Voyager, an episode of the greatest generation Voyager, where Ben's morale hits an all-time low because he is losing this argument. I'm constantly.

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