The Greatest Generation - The Violent Honeymoon Period (DS9 S5E7)
Episode Date: September 30, 2019When they take a sex vacation to Risa, several of their crewmates invite themselves on a runabout that probably would have been destroyed if Worf and Dax had it to themselves. But when Worf becomes in...terested in attending timeshare sales pitches, the vacation does not go well, Enterprise. Can the shaft blister? Which of your two hosts is more amorally renegade? Where has that planetary weather remote been? It’s the episode that comes in a leg lamp amount of packing material. 🖖GET TICKETS TO GREATEST GEN KHAN II: STAR TREK III🖖 Follow The Game of Buttholes: The Will of the Prophets! Support the production of The Greatest Generation.
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Here's to the finest generation Deep Space 9.
It's a Star Trek podcast.
I a couple of guys were a little bit embarrassed about having a Star Trek podcast.
I'm Adam Pranika.
I'm Ben Harrison.
I was just at our PO box bin and I approached the desk saying, I am Adam Pranaka and I have a
very embarrassing PO box here.
And the person behind the counter said, I have packages for you.
And so Ben, I have packages for us.
What do you say we tear into them?
I've always admired your package, Adam. Let's see what's inside.
Captain, I'm sorry to disturb you.
I'm receiving a Code 47. Verify? It is Code 47, sir.
Starfleet emergency frequency.
Caption size only.
Packages of so many shapes and sizes, Ben.
A package for any comer I think.
We're going to start with the littlest package.
This one comes from our friend Samantha from Drum Heller, Alberta.
Cool.
Here's what the letter says, dear Ben and Adam, I thought it was time for you to each have
your own angular sores.
Alright, I'm opening what's in this box now.
Wow!
And true?
True to Samantha's word, what we have here are two very life-like looking Enkylo sores.
I just looked up Drum Heller on Google Maps and the photo associated with the town is
of like a giant stucco tyrannosaurus rex on the roadside.
Wow.
This looks like a dino-rich part of the world.
Letter continues.
Fun fact, there are two different types of ankylo sores.
Some have tailclubs, while others have shoulder spikes.
Not sure if this is part of Star Trek canon.
Thanks for so many hours of hilarious and insightful pod you won't believe me, but I feel
smarter for having listened.
I don't believe you, Samantha, you are a full of crap.
Plus my knuckle-awareness has increased, see that I believe.
Yeah, we do tend to point out the Nuck.
Letter continues, this is my first watch through of DS9 and I might have never watched it
without the greatest gen as a companion.
Seeing you in Edmonton for Greatest Gen Con was a delight.
Hey!
From your faithful viewer, Samantha.
And it says PS here, shout out to my fellow greatest Jen pal Robbie
Cool, so there you have it to to awesome Enky Los or is Ben I'm gonna Jackie and Laura you
Pictures of them hard to imagine those won't be coming out on tour with us, right? You'll have to tell me which one you are
Are you are you spiky guy or are you hammer tail?
Do you think that the hammer tail goes in
Trills with spots and the spiky one goes in trills with loaths?
Yeah, that is exactly what I think
Because that first trill you ever meet is a loaf trill the thing about the spiky back
meat is a loaf trail. The thing about the spiky back
angular sore is that the spikes are shaped like a fish hook in that that thing's going into the pouch, but it ain't coming
out. Oh wow. I'm saying it'll sink the hook. Yeah. Damn. Yeah,
so that I think that's probably an entrance only into the
pouch. The club tail one is definitely more erect looking.
Yeah, I agree.
A lot to like about the spiky guy though.
Yeah, he's got a lot of charm.
Ben, our second package, comes from Ryan from Washington, D.C.
Our nation's capital.
Oh, there's an envelope in here?
You know what I love. There's one envelope in here? You know what I love.
There's one envelope in here with Ben and Adam written on it.
And there's a second envelope with a post-it note on it that says extra envelope.
Is that in case we want to send the letter back?
Yeah.
All right.
I'm opening the card.
The card is covered with Star Trek ships.
Cool.
There's a letter inside.
I like Star Trek ships.
Letter says, dear Ben and Adam,
I recently fell down a space butthole
of collecting Star Trek starship models I found online.
Wow.
When confronted with the many different types of models
that are available, I was amazed
at how many terrible model designs there are
There are some real doosies out there, so I thought I would send
Two guys who are a little bit embarrassed to have a Star Trek podcast two terrible models
You would be a bit embarrassed to have on your desk. It's a thank you gift for all the great Trek pod you've shared with the world
So check it out. Ryan has sent us
two ships out of the Star Trek official Starships collection. Wow. And he is not wrong. These are some
ugly-ass ships. One of them is the USS Firebrand. This is a freedom-class ship. It's just got a single
warp in a cell connected to a saucer. And it looks like one of the dumbest things that Ryan has ever seen.
It's a way of seeing that screen very briefly in the graveyard after math of Wolf 359.
Yeah, I mean, if I'm the Borgs at Wolf 359,
I'm not feeling very great about putting this one out of its misery.
It seems like it would be really hard to steer the fire, the fire brand.
Right. Yeah, it's like, it's like a surfboard without a fin on it.
Yeah. The second one is the USS Curry.
Not surprisingly, the Curry-class starship. It's a hood excels your model converted to
Del Sol form with USS Reliant Nacells and it looks terrible.
And in looking at it, I, I'm inclined to agree, Ryan, this is, this is a terrible looking
starship.
This is a, it looks like a starship that somebody dropped down the stairs and then didn't
quite know how to put back together.
You know, it's great about the model that he sent is that one of the Nacells has fallen
off and it's sort of loosely rattling around the box.
That Ryan sent it to us and I will send you pictures of these also been.
The USS Curry really looks like the kind of ship that's designed to make a water landing.
Yeah.
It's got like spruce goose vibes to it.
It really does.
That's a great call. Well, our thanks to Ryan for those really thoughtful
and terrifically ugly starship gifts.
Yeah, thank you.
They can't all be as iconic as the entrepreneur.
That's true.
Third and final package bin, it is the biggest.
I'm saving the biggest for last.
Mm.
Which is not something I've ever set out loud.
Hopefully this is the bucket that I ordered.
It is from Lieutenant Nay and Old Ike from Oakland, California.
Hey, that's my hometown.
You know I asked the mayor of Oakland about you and they said they never heard of you before.
I kept a pretty low profile when I lived there because I was a child.
There is a terrific amount of newsprint in this.
It's gonna take a moment for me to be sure.
Is this one of those joke gifts where it's a huge box and then there's like a
engagement ring in the middle?
All right. That was like a
a leg lamp amount of packing material
in that giant box.
What I found inside is a Star Trek the next generation monopoly game.
Collector's Edition.
Whoa, it's got a bunch of space bucks in it.
Looks like it's got Lattinum.
Strips of Lattinum.
It's got all the game pieces in here.
Wow, cool. Where the... What is it? A thimble, a starship, an old-timey top hat?
So I'm looking at a...
where Park Place and Boardwalk would be, there's the Borg and Q.
There are four shuttle crafts where the railroads would be.
You know, stuff like that. We've got replicators and tamarians and the board. Yeah, but what are the game pieces, Adam?
I found a game piece. Looks like data with a tricorder is one of them.
Oh.
The little pewter data?
All the pieces have been just thrown around.
I kind of get the sense that this is not new in-box. This is like a...
Now, this is very, very used.
Alright, so I've got the game pieces and uh...
and we've got a little pewter data.
Holding the tricorder, we got a pewter
Jordy holding what looks like a pad.
We've got pewter wharf holding a phaser.
The gang's all here. We've got pewter... It's great! We've got pewter Wharf holding a phaser. The gang's all here. We got Pewter.
We've got Pewter Troy holding her breasts
just because she has her arms crossed.
Pewter Wesley.
Also arms crossed, Pewter Picard.
Doing the make it so, Sine.
That's fun.
Pewter Riker.
And Pewter Beverly, the gang's all here.
Wow.
You know what, no one would like to hear us do, Ben. I should play that game.
Haha.
Letter inside goes like this,
Dear Ben and Adam, do you remember the couple from the priority one
in the greatest disco episode season two, episode seven?
Vividly, vividly.
Where one half is stopped listening to the greatest gen and is patiently waiting for the way of the warrior for the other to catch up so they can listen together.
Oh, now it is us.
We found some good trick stuff at Ike's parents house recently and we also found this.
So to thank you for bringing us the greatest podcast, we have decided to send you the worst game. Wow, it's the worst game
We would suggest you use it as a negative space on game of buttholes
Will of the profits but playing monopoly even for one episode even with beverages
Even with a trek theme seems too cruel a punishment for two people. We love so much. See you guys get it nay and Ike.
Do with it what you must and
Then in parentheses it says at least check out the bills before you toss it in the matter reclamation unit
This game gets a 4.6 out of 10 on a on boardgame geek.com
We'll see you when you make it back to the Bay Area, and we can't wait to spend Picard
and Lower Decks with you as well.
You have Beer, you have Beer, and always will be our greatest pod.
That's fun.
From Ney and Ike, another great haul from the PO Box today, Ben.
Yeah, thank you to everybody who sent stuff in.
Grateful for our viewers' generosity and for thinking of us.
You know, we have that other board game, the, uh, the How to Host a Mystery Dinner Party
with friends. Yeah.
Boarding a set. Got that over here.
You know what, there was something else in this package that I didn't open that I realized
I need to. It's totally bubble wrap mummified.
Oh my god.
All right, Ben, inside some bubble wrap along with a monopoly game board,
I have unwrapped a ceramic handmaid, and I need to emphasize this hand made piece of ceramic pottery
It looks
profoundly vaginal
I'm gonna send you a picture and then I'm gonna read the letter
Letter goes like this do you're been an Adam?
This is Isaac's mom. Mm.
I am in Wisconsin sending you this gift from Nay and Ike,
because that's what mothers do.
I came home to collect some of his stuff,
because his parents are moving abroad and renting their house.
This just happened to me.
My parents moved abroad and rented out their house.
They should be friends, right?
Yeah. My parents moved abroad and rented out their house. They should be friends, right?
Yeah.
Clearing stuff out, I found this old ST wall sconce.
He made me.
He will be very unhappy with his mother.
If for when he finds out I bequeathed to the two of you.
I am deeply grateful for the assistance ST gave us
in helping us raise an upstanding citizen of the universe.
Live long and prosper. Ike's mom. Wow! the assistance ST gave us in helping us raise an upstanding citizen of the universe.
Live long and prosper, Ike's mom.
Wow!
Epic mom troll.
There's a photo in here.
PS the photo is from around 1997 when Ike was in around 4th grade.
He'll kill me if he finds out I sent this along.
Then I'm looking at this now for the first time.
Oh boy.
I am now sending you this picture.
Oh wow.
Yeah, there's a lot to take in there.
That's a wall sconce that you're meant to put a candle in.
I take it.
You've never seen a candle look like this.
It is.
I mean, it's...
It has, I mean, what is generously described
as a UFP logo on the back.
Yeah.
And then, for some reason,
a, the stamp for, for nuclear stuff.
Oh, really?
You know, that logo.
Nuclear candle.
Yeah. You know I was like you
maybe you may be feeling feelings of embarrassment you may be feeling feelings
of betrayal but here's the thing you were raised with a mom that had you in an
acceptable haircut you know. That is true. At me at this age I had a terrible haircut and the picture
would be much much much more embarrassing so you know, count your blessings bud. Yeah I
agree. I think you're doing alright over there. And Ike's mom. Wow. Got gotta lovely lady friend. You're doing great.
I think, I think Ike and his mom needs, need,
like I'm getting the sense that they're quarreling with each other.
Like she did this to embarrass him.
I know, I fucking love her.
Ha ha.
Ha ha.
Ha ha ha.
Wow, thank you.
Friend of DeSoto, Ike's mom.
Yeah.
And thanks to everyone who sent something in today,
that was really cool to see what you had in store for us.
You know what else is cool?
A nice breeze off of the lake on Planet Riza.
One of the best places.
It's a very chill hang.
Wanna go, you wanna go there?
Do you want to go to there with me?
Who could possibly hate Rysa?
Maybe only he who is without sin, Ben.
Let's talk about Deep Space 9 Season 5 episode 7.
Let he who is without sin. Do you realize how many cannibal this seems? Hahaha!
No, of course you don't.
Start with a mourn delivering a flower to a lady.
Very strange shot.
He's seducing a woman who also has liver spots.
She's an older star fleet.
It seems like she doesn't know him or know what is going on until the flower is in her
hand.
Like, I was watching her face for signs of recognition or knowing what was going on.
And she just looks profoundly confused until she's got the flower and then she's in love
with him.
It looks like a moment that's been very directed, the kind that you would get in a commercial
from a Chamber of Commerce for a vacation town, you know.
Yeah, visit Deep Space Nine.
These things don't happen in real life.
No.
Come to Deep Space Nine and be seduced by Morn. It's like those like super ironic,
come visit Cleveland YouTube videos.
I'm not gonna say anything bad about Cleveland.
I like Cleveland.
I'm just, I'm referencing specific videos
that are making fun of it.
If Morn was in Cleveland,
we'd be touring there every year.
B. So then we get Cisco and Odo catching a morning hang. What do you
think of the O'Brien's plan to name their baby Sean? And DAX comes and joins
them and she is in the parlance of our times tow up. Is that what it means to
have sex injuries? I haven't heard that. Yeah, she to have sex injuries?
I haven't heard that.
Yeah, she's got sex injuries.
Mention is made that Wurf is spending a lot of time
in the infirmary as well.
They are in the violent honeymoon period of their relationship.
Yeah, when you have new love,
and often you'll go past the point that's safe.
And you will have to, and you will be sex injured.
Ben, have you had a sex injury?
I don't believe I've ever had a sex injury.
Not a neck-based one, certainly.
Ben, I once got a hand job.
So lacking lubrication that I got a bl job, so lacking lubrication
that I got a blister on the shaft of my dick.
Whoa, which, believe me, the shaft can blister
and it did.
It put me out of commission for quite a while.
Wow.
If it were possible to friction blister my dick,
I thought I would have known about it by then.
But this is a totally new thing to happen to me. And it was with our partner.
You thought you would have discovered that in private.
Yeah, exactly.
So I was blown away when this happened.
Wow.
Don't be afraid to get a little spit involved or anything, really.
Anything would have helped.
I should have spoken up.
So that's partly my mistake too.
Wharf and DAX have a vacation planned.
I think Cisco had been told that they were going to Earth,
but in fact, they're going to be going to Riza.
Yeah, Earth is boring.
All they got is Creole food.
You can't have tons of anonymous sex on Earth.
It's not that kind of paradise.
No.
I mean, it is paradise there, right?
Right.
Warf is not enjoying his shit being put out
into the streets by tax.
And Dax is making the case that your friends aren't the streets.
Right. I mean, I think that it's kind of a surprising, it's a surprising place for
worth to be coming from being that he previously was stationed on a ship with 1,000 people
and is now on a station with like four times that many people.
Right.
This is a very cosmopolitan place by comparison
and is gonna have, you know, like we've talked about
deep space nine being a small town,
but it's way less small of a town than the entrepreneur.
Warf seems like he's feeling like after leaving his friends
on the entrepreneur that he doesn't want anymore friends.
And he is neglectful of the ones that he has here.
Warf is in a really bad way and emotionally. And I think this is an episode that is largely about that.
Yeah. I mean, it's a you're saying that from a position of great empathy.
Empathy was a hard feeling for me to
muster throughout this app for a war.
Yeah. I mean,
specifically being in a bad way emotionally
and it's not a good excuse to act like shit to your friends.
That's fair.
So wharf is also upset because wharf's
lacks having lunch with an ex.
I do not trust Captain Boday.
And wharf is thinking that this ex
might still have a candle lit for her in some way.
Their mirror sharing of a meal seems to cross some kind of line for him.
Yeah, and this is another mention of that transparent skull guy.
Yeah.
We've heard about him.
We've heard, but we have not seen, and I can't wait to see that guy's brains.
They've got to show him.
Yeah.
Gotta take a look at those brains.
Yeah.
Well, I can see it's going to be quite a trip.
This is a conversation that feels like it's full of a bunch of triage because like thing
fires are starting up and then they're getting put out and then another fire gets lit
before the end of the scene is and that is Bashir and Lita want to hit your ride to rise with them.
Yeah, we're coming on your romantic getaway.
It's not the friendliest thing to spring on a couple of ostensibly close friends.
But they're aware of the size of the runabout, and it's ample rear section, and they also
make promises about not spending a lot of time with them. They're
just they're just in it for the ride. We just happen to get the same flight. We're not going to be
in your hotel room the entire time. Exactly. That's the promise. So they calibrate their expectations
for that. But on their way to the ship, they bump into at the airlock a quark who has his bags packed as well and will be joining them for the journey.
That is a that's a terrible kind of boss right. The boss that lets you go on vacation but then comes with.
Yeah, that's not good. That would be horrifying. Especially when you're going to a sex planet.
Yeah, you can't really be yourself on a sex planet if your boss is there too.
Yeah.
I've always said that.
So they've got a pretty full run about Ben.
Yeah.
And this is the rare run about trip to Rysa that does not encounter any Romulans or
Boergs or anything.
No.
No, and it's exciting.
Like I see, like, look, we know Wharf and to a certain extent, Dax are not happy to have interlopers with them on this trip,
but like vacationing with friends is fun.
And seeing them all together, it's sort of in that pre-funk portion
of a vacation is neat.
And the spirits, at least accepting for Wharf,
it seemed to be pretty high.
Yeah, Dex is taking this with a ton of grace that Wurf is not.
And now, Wurf is pissed even to be getting handed a beverage by Lita.
Coming about, setting course for Deep Space Nine.
The presence of Quark is never going to make Wurf happy.
Quark talks about his cabin on the run about. Yeah. You'll call that a cabin.
It's a cop and a waste of disposal unit. That's not a thing. Maybe they have different
different donkeys. Like some runabouts have a big wide open space back there. Others have
a donkey full of cabins. I wish we could to see in the back of that runabout. Just want
to see in the back. Just runabout. Just want to see in the back. If you got a big one, let me search it.
Just grab either side of the runabout and pull it open.
Let me see the inside of it.
Yeah, spread that shit.
This, I mean quark is distributing horgons,
lead is giving out drinks, everyone stoked.
They explain the the horegon mechanic here in a way just to kind of like catch you up if you didn't
watch every episode of TNG.
Useful? Yeah, it's kind of like Commander Riker explaining time travel.
It's a sign of things to come though because Worf can't loosen up here and his two sticks in the mud will remain.
He's not given a horde gun.
No, he's not.
You think that's what set him off?
Quark didn't even give him a horde gun.
He was already set off.
Yeah.
You never want to be with or be the person where other people in the group are asking,
so you okay?
I've been that guy before.
Yeah.
It's not good.
I was that guy on the big group trip to Mexico
for your birthday,
but that was because I was like legitimately sick.
Right, you were, you were,
I wasn't bumming everybody out.
You were diarrhea in the mud
You weren't you weren't sticking the mud. Yeah, making my own mud
Making mud pies
On the surface they meet a randis who is played by Vanessa Williams
This is a Vanessa Williams that predates the
L that she would put into her name later on in her career. Miss America Vanessa Williams.
Yeah. I would never have guessed that Renee Obershenwa had directed Vanessa Williams.
What a thrill. What I read was that she was so game to be in DS9 that like her first day on set was her
first shooting day.
She took the red eye out, they costumed her up and she was on set like immediately like
ready to go.
Like real professional, awesome person Vanessa Williams.
She breaks some pretty amazing news in this scene,
which is that Kerson Dax died from Jamaharone.
It's the way that Kirk always wanted to go out.
But couldn't.
Kirk slipped down a rock face
and got crushed under a bridge.
I know.
I mean, he said it was fun.
Imagine what he would have said
if he'd died from Jamaharone.
You know Kirk wanted to die from being crushed under some wharf.
Drowned in wharf.
Yeah.
That just can't, right?
After what they did to his boy.
Yeah.
But yeah, this is this, this character is the one who done it.
She was Jamaharoning, Kerson when he, when he passed, apparently. We the one who done it. She was Jemaharoning Kurson when he passed, apparently.
We had a wonderful time together.
Warf is doing that thing that, you know, when you date a person seriously, the expectation
that they were brand new for you is something that you really need to leave behind.
Like, people have histories and pasts
and other people that they've been with.
And this idea that Wurf is hurt
by DAX having a sex life with someone else,
even if that sex life is with someone
that they're sharing a time and place with,
is not really cool, Wurf.
Yeah, the...
He should be upset that he should be upset that a Randace killed her.
Or him back when it was, when it was Kersan, you know what I mean?
He should be upset at murder.
It really gives you a sense of how DTF DAX is that no grudges held there.
Murdered by that post, the Curzon Dax story.
Yeah, there is a definite pattern of controlling behavior
emerging with Orphe.
He doesn't like that Dax was hanging out with the galomite.
Now he doesn't like that she's friendly with this lover
of a previous incarnation.
Right.
He is really salty about it in a way that is super uncool. this lover of a previous incarnation. Right.
He is really salty about it in a way that is super uncool.
That is a mistake.
This conflict is going to continue throughout the episode, this tension between free spirit
dax and controlling dwarf.
Kind of makes you wonder, like, besides all of their sex injuries, what they could possibly have in each other.
Yeah, I think that the case has not really been made that well.
Why Dax likes Wharf.
It's a little weak at this point.
Yeah, I mean, it's very easy to see what he likes about her.
She's fun.
She's got that sarong that she takes off at opportune moments.
Often you'll see this in couples where like one is the looser upper of the other. And that's what Dax is in this relationship.
She makes him better.
Yeah, yeah, and I think that that's true in my relationship. My wife is definitely much more fun and good than me.
Same. Does a Klingon swimsuit have two mesh nets? I think that that's true in my relationship. My wife is definitely much more fun and good than me.
Same.
Does a Klingon swimsuit have two mesh nets?
Because we get to see the Klingon swimsuit
that Wurf pulls out of his luggage.
Also, we never see his luggage.
Yeah.
Which I also wanted to see.
He never puts the swimsuit on.
Yeah.
And I think that that would have really elucidated a lot.
We could have seen the dual package situation.
Those double pipes.
That would have been fun.
You know a Klingon swimsuit is known as like carbon durgines,
right?
Because you got to carry around those hammers.
Yeah. printer jeans, right? He's got to carry around those hammers.
Oh, yeah. So instead of a mesh inner,
it's got just two hammer loops in there.
Yeah.
Well, Warf is examining his swimsuit.
He gets paid a visit by Pascal Fullerton,
who is like the platonic ideal of an old-time TV actor.
I feel like he's, I thought he was Lee Majors at first.
He's really got that Lee Majors look.
He's got major that guy vibes and he's been in a ton of shit.
He's like one of those actors that has a career that spans like the 70s and into the teens.
Oh, you know what?
He was on the $6 million man as the recurring role of the $7 million man.
Steve Austin's more powerful and amorally renegade successor.
That is great.
We spent one million more dollars to make him worse.
I would consider myself the more amorally renegade host of Greatest
Gen.
Oh yeah?
Yeah, I think so.
Wow, that's fucked up, dude.
I know.
Watch out!
This guy is the leader of the new essentialist movement.
I'm not familiar with it organization.
Which are the conservative scolds of the federation. And he gives worth like a trifold pamphlet
of some of the tenants of their belief system. And they really play right into his control
freak tendencies.
He really do. This Fullerton is going to be a problem. His evangelism is coming at the
perfect time for dwarf, who appears to be flailing for any reason to not participate in this trip in any way and
And with Fullerton, he has sort of a foothold. You're gonna buy a time share in Mexico. We don't have to buy
We can stay for free and all we have to do is listen to a 20 minute information session
Jackson wore for shown walking around in, you know, these shimmering spa rooms where everybody's in swimsuits
and giving each other massages and Warfare's just like
head in the book reading about Fullerton's stupid ideas.
Kind of a buzzkill.
To be quite honest about it,
I've been a pale, a fucking pale.
Mr. Bucket, I have to revert back to my state.
Oh, I don't use the bucket anymore.
They walk in on Lida, who is getting like an air massage.
And this is clearly like a sexier massage
than a no-contact massage would imply.
Sure.
Yeah, there's a rising and beef cake there.
Yeah.
Given it to her. He's in one of those shirts that is and beef cake there. Yeah. Given it to her.
He's in one of those shirts that is totally see-through.
Yeah.
So you can see all the nice, hunky muscle under it.
Care to join us.
Warf is not feeling good about what he's walked into.
And Dex, Dex is great.
She's like, it's none of their business, but they're doing.
Like, Warf walks into a room where Lita's got her robe
nearly falling off of her breasts.
And instead of staring at that,
he's staring at the dude because he's mad at the dude
for being there with Lita and not being Dr. Bashir.
Warf is a fucking hypocrite.
I'm gonna say it now and I'm gonna say it
throughout the episode.
Like, he wants his
beliefs respected and he wants his business kept out of, but he can't help but stick his nose
into everyone else's. Give me a break, Wharf. Give me a fucking break. He's responding to Fullerton's
screed about this need to return to Federation morals, but what does Wurf care about federation morals?
Like, he comes from a violent society that subjugates women and he gets into fights to the death
all the time that are like under the cover of his own cultural foundation. He's a total hypocrite
about this and he's the only reason he's entertaining the idea of Fullerton's
Prostilitizing is because he doesn't want to participate in the vacation
Perhaps you underestimate the power of Fullerton's message
Speaking of that Prostilitizing more factually goes to this guy's rally where he and all of his
Dower accolades come out in like you know, they're all in like robes and
You know all the all the colors are muted a lot of graze and blacks and browns
They're leaving everything to the imagination. I would not call it a show and they speak to the assembled group of bikini clad onlookers
He's there to sell them a time share opportunity if they just have three or four
hours. And attractive man like yourself. And what he's saying is like what you're you're
acting like babies. If you're like me, your wife would pan your hide if you thought for
yourself. You have every need service. You never take issues of security seriously?
I'm barely even a man.
My wife chases me around with a rolling pin.
And this is really thrown meat to wharf,
who is always writing for people
aren't taking security seriously enough.
But yeah, like he's saying that like,
unless the federation changes its ways,
it's going to be crushed by one of these marauding alien societies and sites, the borgs,
the klingons, and the gemadar as examples of potential threats that the federation is
not prepared to handle.
We don't know anything about Fullerton's past, right?
Like all we have is him fully formed,
this middle-aged man giving this condescending speech.
And it's like the modern baby boomer argument.
Like he made it to middle-aged getting his
and he's shutting the door behind him
rather he's getting old.
But it would be so much more interesting if he was,
I don't know, the veteran of some
Starfleet war, or he had seen some shit somewhere that made him think this way.
Like it wouldn't make his argument correct, but it would give him...
You would understand where he was coming from.
Yeah, he is acting without any motivation at all besides his message, and I think that
hurts the episode.
Yeah, I agree. I think that there are a lot of conservative stripes of thought.
Like, you know, like when you, when you like to look at the anti-abortion movement,
you realize that it's much more about controlling women's bodies and when women have sex.
And for what reason than it is about, like actually reducing the number
of abortions, like they don't really care that much
about that, it's, they're much more just control freaks.
And I think that that's kind of the case
that's being made here.
Right, and maybe by intentionally not giving him
that backstory, that's what they're trying to do
to this character. Maybe, I just don't think that it, I don't think he's brought to heal enough to
like, to really illuminate that.
Yeah.
Yeah.
So later on, Bashir and Worf and Dax are kind of debating the speeches, quote, unquote,
merits.
Yeah.
And this is like exactly what Worf was afraid of, right? Yeah.
Like now, now on this, on this couple's vacation where you said you weren't going to bother us,
we're having a group dinners. Yeah. Yeah, I mean, but it's a buffet. So like, what are you going to do?
The only occur during a certain number of hours. And as soon as Lita arrives wharf, just gets immediately pissed.
Yeah.
He, he's, he's seen Julian with another lady.
He's seen Lita with another gentleman.
He's pissed and he like starts throwing his napkin around.
Something wrong.
And I like when Bashir asks, stacks like, what's going on?
And she like, she just gives him a little look,
like, it's nothing, it's nothing.
But then, wharf boils over.
You two dishonor each other with your actions.
They explain, oh yeah, we're actually here breaking up.
We're, it's like instead of a sad funeral,
it's a celebration of life, but for our relationship.
What a great way to put it.
It's awesome.
The right as separation.
It's like it turns a couple into co-wing men, I think.
Yeah.
Like, because they're on the prowl for each other while they're on
Riza.
They've both knacked boots with some other people and then like,
they leave this dinner to go knacked boots with each other.
Like, yeah, yeah, let's, uh, let's maybe have a little parting roll in the hay.
Seems pretty healthy to me.
I'm into it.
But just then a fight breaks out across the dining room.
They hear the customary breaking of glasses and plates.
The sound of a table being flipped over.
And they're like, is Ben Harrison a bus boy in this restaurant?
That sounded like a, a bomb breaking near a jacuzzi.
I broke a lot of glassware when I was a bus boy.
It's a fundamentalist attack.
Ben, because that's what fundamentalists do when they can't suppress a thing they don't
agree with.
Yep.
Fullerton has escalated from guy who makes stump speeches to guy who carries out attacks.
And he and his homies have rifles, which they're not using, but once everything kind of settles
down, Worf and Dax realize that these rifles are in fact not armed. Ricey insecurity doesn't kill them because they're white.
Well, there's that bolean with them.
Yeah, that's true. The bolean gets killed.
This whole, if I can't have a good time, no one else can either mentality is really irritating.
And I think it's the thing that makes Fullerton
one of my least liked characters and all of Star Trek. He is just, I don't think he's
spilling like him. No, but I mean, I mean, I just, I hate him more than I hate hateable
people in Star Trek. He is like right up there. Wow. He's just the worst. Yeah, he's a dirt bag.
And they're like, you know,
Dax says like, oh yeah, like we could arrest you
as starfleet officers right now.
Part of it is the smirking, right?
Because he does this shitty thing
and then Dax says we could arrest you
and he smirks right at her face.
Like, what are you gonna do,
ricey insecurity is shit.
They're busy fucking.
They're not gonna prosecute.
They'll just release me after 24 hours.
Yeah. Maybe just arrest him anyways then.
Yeah.
Fullerton clearly needs a good fuck
because he is just a little bit of a busy body.
I know how you all feel.
When that furry temps just,
he's calling a name.
Yeah, this is a guy that is putting out his horgan and nobody is offering him jama her own.
It feels like he has a very similar worldview to the one that Admiral Layton had in Paradise Lost.
And if you were to swap Risa for Earth and Layton for Fullerton, I think, I think there are a lot
of similarities here. Yeah. I mean, it's definitely a stripe of thinking.
I just don't happen to agree with it.
No.
That night, Warfin' Dax finally have that conversation that they've Oh, I'm okay. I'm not be gone. I'm not be gone.
Exactly.
That night, Warfin' Dax finally have that conversation that they've been foreshadowing
the entire episode.
And it ends up being...
Yeah, Warfin's has said the phrase, we have much to speak about.
More times than he said anything else in this episode.
That's Klingon 4, we need to talk.
About us.
And that is usually followed by a tough conversation. Yeah.
It's a conversation here where they realize that neither of them is going to change.
It's easy to understand where Dax is coming from because she's a little bit like more
adjusted to the kind of society that we're used to, but it does kind of make,
make you realize that Warp feels really on the ropes here,
because he comes out of this tradition where you mate once and forever.
Right. Like once somebody is your parmaca, that's it.
And the idea that they're not married and they're not acting married and they're
not doing anything to kind of like make this as serious as it feels for him
is really hard for him to cope
with.
Yeah.
And so they both kind of go to bed angry and you can't do that then.
You just can't.
It's not allowed.
You're not allowed to leave your wedding reception before you agree to those terms.
Yeah.
Yeah.
So in the morning, DAX wakes up and finds a Randus cleaning up the mess that the fundamentalist made.
I guess they just left it during the night.
Like, I have a person like I want to clean up
all the dishes before going to bed.
Yeah.
But they just left it out.
This was a go home tonight, guys.
We'll fix this in the morning.
Yeah.
But a Randus and DAX are close and she can tell
something's up with her and Wurf.
It doesn't take much to see that.
I've had better vacations.
Better than Ryzen?
Yeah, Aranthus is going to help DAX feel much better by taking her to a pottery class
where she teaches her how to make a clay morn hammer.
Now leave room for the battery stacks. I thought this thing looked like a mop dog.
Like, do they have common doors on Rysa?
And I look that way to me.
Yeah.
I guess I jumped ahead because we do get to see the breaking up ceremony that Lita and
Bashir have.
But Jorn's break up sort of the same way that Jews get married. Yeah. Breaking something. We do get to see the breaking up ceremony that Lita and Bashir have.
But Jarns break up sort of the same way that Jews get married.
Yeah.
Breaking something.
Yeah.
The time for sharing is over.
That's fun.
Yeah.
Yeah, they both drink out of the same bowl and then they chuck the bowl on the ground. That's it. It's fun. Yeah, they both drink out of the same bowl and they chuck the bowl on the ground. That's it.
It's over.
And quark is shocked.
Like we all are about how easy it is to break up with someone.
He's expecting a lot more drama.
No recriminations, no hurt feelings.
And a dab of drama does come, which is that like right on the heels of breaking up with
Bishir leaders like, oh yeah, it's like, mainly my reason for breaking up
is that I've had my eye on another fella
for a few months now
and drops the bomb that Bashir got dumped for wrong.
He's so cute and very sexy.
The reactions to this are really fun to me
because Quark is disgusted because it's his brother and
Bashir is low-key disgusted because of how it reflects on him.
Right. I'm less attractive than Rom is the conclusion that you get to.
And there's it's definitely injected with that whole like if she left me for him.
Yeah. What does that mean about me?
Yeah.
It's a vanity thing, which is a great,
bishier quality, right?
Like what do you know about bishier?
Vane.
Vane.
And urine, but mostly thing.
So upon catching dacs,
making a model of Morn's dong with her friend,
or storms off and basically joins the radical political group.
Why does Reisa rent these guys a room? These guys are rabble-rousing and they shouldn't be allowed
to be there, I think. Well, it's a free country. I guess. I mean, do we know that about Ryza? I guess we can assume it based on what we're seeing here.
Yeah.
I mean, this is one of those things where there's a little bit of
hand waving, but Ryza is part of the federation.
Yeah.
Is it like the EU where it's like a bunch of sovereign planets that are all
under, you know, some of the same laws, but some different ones?
Yeah, it seems that way. I don't know
So Warf finds his way to the conference room that the fundamentalists are having their meeting in like
Neptune
to
and
Offers his services. Yeah, he's like how can I help? I have a way to really shut the fun down on this planet.
I'm having no fun.
And so on a planetary scale, I think that we should make everybody else feel the same way
I do.
I, at this point, was really feeling like Warfoot lose me forever, extremely down on Warfoot
this moment in time.
Yeah.
A lot of discussion of fun outings that might happen on Riza
that have gotten cut short because of shit to do with Wharf.
The first time they were talking about
going and checking out a waterfall or something
and he wanted to go to the political rally.
And this time Wharf is gone and Quirk, Bashir, and Dex
are talking to our Randis about maybe
getting out there and doing something when lightning strikes and the clouds open up.
And in a Reza, which has been described as naturally being a swamp planet with a lot
of geological activity, reverts to its rainforesty swampy ways.
Yeah, that didn't take long.
Warf has the universal remote that turns the weather on.
You know, man's supposition is that any remote control you find in a hotel or a resort
has been up someone's butt.
So, don't smell the weather control or wharf.
I'm sorry, whose supposition?
Yeah, I don't know, I don't remember.
So the deal is it's going to be rainy
for the next three or four days.
And this is great,
because full of phlegian things like,
oh, we'll force everybody to get back to, you know,
back to essentials like they can hack it on Ryza. Well, it's
well as rainy and unpleasant out. Then they'll see like what it takes to be a capable citizen
in a dangerous galaxy.
Because Ryza is an illusion.
Warf really crosses the vacation Rubicon here because while Fullerton takes responsibility
for the plan, Warf admits being the one that
actually turned off the weather system. If you're vacationing with Warf and he's admitted this,
like he's dead to you, he's ruined your vacation and he's intentionally done it.
Right, this is a future in which resources are unlimited. The only thing that is limited is time.
And he's wasted a bunch of your fucking vacation time.
Yeah.
And like, it's hard to see this as not being anything
other than a crime.
Yeah.
That he's committed on a planetary scale.
And it's never a disgust that like,
wharf would ever be in trouble for what he's done.
Which he should be.
He should be in really big trouble.
Yep.
He should be in a ricey in prison.
Which can't be that bad, right?
Yeah.
You gotta make a toilet, Horgon.
Ha ha ha.
Out of your feces. Ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha He's available for something. Morning, morning. Morning.
Steve, sweet.
Morning.
Morning.
Morning.
Morning.
So yeah, like everybody's bummed out.
Just a check-in on runtime here.
There's about 10 minutes left in the episode on this happens.
Right.
And two minutes of that is taken up with a little scene of like,
dax playing 3D Monkola with herself
while Cork complains that it's Rainier than Ferenganar, and then the rest of that 10 minutes
is a big fight between DAX and Warf, where they get to the bottom of things. What is eating
him to the extent
that he committed a crime on a planetary scale?
He's committing crimes on a relationship scale too, Ben.
Yeah, he should be relationship extinction level events.
But you know, Danx starts talking to him,
and she's like, you know, like,
Kersan knows a lot more about Klingons than you do.
Kersan spent more time with them.
Yeah.
That was a problem.
Is that like while they have a lot of honor
and were you shit going on like you,
they are also bond vivants.
They live life to the fullest.
They have zest and passion and you ain't got shit.
Yeah, so where is the other half, this missing half
and Worf's it sits her down and tells her
the story of his upbringing, and he tells her the most bug-nut story of a soccer game
he played when he was a kid, where he was going in for a header, and at the same time,
he simultaneously headed in the winning goal for his team and broke
the neck of one of the other players.
He died the next day.
And from that point forward, he became a stoic.
He suppressed all of the bond vivant aspects of being a Klingon so that he could keep the
people around him safe. His idea was that if he lived, like,
to the full extent of the physicality that he has, that he would just mangle all the humans around him.
I mean, the logic is flawed utterly because, like, by withholding the Klingon fun part of himself, he's just leaning more into the fundamentalist Klingon part of himself,
which is no less dangerous.
Yeah.
Like he's getting into batleth fights all the time.
It's bad logic, but it's kid logic, I think.
Yeah.
Critically, right.
And he doesn't seem that remorseful that he let this all get so out of hand.
No, he does that thing where he allows his story to explain his actions without apology.
Yeah, like instead of an apology, like the earth starts to shake and they have to go grab the weather control tricorder from Fullerton because they think he's
gone too far, but it's like, worth, you put that power in his hand.
Like, 100% of this is happening because of you.
Right.
And so, to Fullerton's like a powerless asshole until you gave him that gadget.
To give Warf the hero turn of picking him up by the neck
and throwing him into a banquet table.
Yeah.
Doesn't really forgive anything that led them up to that point.
And this is like a 45 minute episode.
They walk into the Neptune 2 conference room,
grab the gadget away from Fullerton,
and it's like day-saved.
It's all over nothing to see here.
I am on vacation.
I feel like they were just looking at the stunt as the catharsis.
Right.
Just tossing this guy across the room is as far as as we need to go
and in explaining what happens at the end of this. But you know how it is when you're on vacation,
at least at least when I'm on vacation, I am a little bit counting the days in a way that I
try not to. But when the button on the episode happens and everyone's walking on the beach on what is supposedly
the last day, there is no mention of their entire vacation being ruined by Wharf. They're just kick and sand and
enjoying each other's company, but I've got to believe that there would be real hard feelings here with the scarcity of vacation time resources
and with how much of a dick warf was and with I mean,
a Randace is there. A bunch of her, a bunch of her compound has been ruined by
earthquakes and rain. Right. Because of war. Right.
Dax is still in war's arms. It's hard to judge Star Trek episodes harshly for their lack of
consequences. To a certain extent, you forgive them when there are not long story arcs.
But we are watching a show right now that is embracing the arcs that it's able to give us.
And punishments on occasion are lasting on the show, but that they totally excuse and ignore what Warf has done here is insane to me.
excuse and ignore what Worf has done here is insane to me. Well, I think that's a good opportunity for me to ask you, did you like this episode?
I think episodes that make me feel strongly tend to be good.
Like, that's a good thing, right?
That I'm so upset at Worf, that I'm so incredulous with why Dax would stay with him.
incredulous with why Dax would stay with him. But there are so many holes in this story, and it's so toothless for so long that to give us a bad guy who is prostilitizing his morality,
and then giving us, like, his whole deal is sort of like punishing the society
that he doesn't agree with.
Right.
And then to not punish the true bad guy of the episode in Warf, it's just confusing and
wrong.
And there's so much of an equivalency between Fullerton and Warf and because nothing ever
happens to either of them by the end,
it really leaves me with a feeling of what was it all for. You could see what they were trying
to do in setting up this morality play, but there was no lesson from it.
I think that the other problem is that it never repudiates what Fullerton was saying.
Yeah.
And I think that there is a valid repudiation, but the fact that Fullerton gets all of
the air time to say why what he thinks is right is right.
Like it doesn't have the power of like a cowl-hud Hudson where you have a genuine difference of opinion that
you can see the valid the validity of both sides.
Yeah, I agree.
Like you you wind up hating cowl Hudson because of his methods, but you could you could
see where he's coming from.
Yeah, and you just don't get that with Fullerton.
That's a great point.
I think another thing that really cripples the episode
is just the constraints you have in showing
sexuality on television at this moment in time
and on syndicated television
because by making rice a tame,
it makes Fullerton's protestations feel absurd
and also warfs agreeing with that absurd right?
It's like telling people that they're ungodly for going to Disneyland or something. Yeah, yeah exactly and that that hurts
Whoa, just like Dolwip leave us alone. Yeah
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It is as good as they say.
Yeah, but I don't want to go to a children's theme park to get it.
I don't think you have to. I think there are places in LA that sell it.
Yeah, let's go find it next time you're down here.
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stuff like that.
And you have a boat and say the world's going to end,
so seem like something for us to check out.
We would love to be on the boat.
We came two by two.
What do you think?
O'Neil Ross and Carrie, available on Maxim Yammer. I'm a Yammer. Hey Adam. It's that Ben. Did you find yourself a drunk Shimoda?
I'm a drunk Shimoda.
Yeah, you know, he isn't in this episode of Bunch
and there's a reason for that,
but I'm gonna give my Shimoda to Dr. Bashir.
He is a fish out of his cultural water.
Yeah.
He is both in a mixed culture relationship,
but he's also on a planet on vacation
that has its own systems in place.
He's just a human guy trying to figure it out.
And he, throughout, is pretty cool and open
and down with whatever.
You might even say he's a little bit of a Lou.
Yeah, he doesn't have like a major freak out when he finds out about the ROM thing. Like he's a little bit of Lou. Yeah, he doesn't have a major freak out when he finds out about the ROM thing.
He's a little upset about it, but he doesn't get controlling and shitty.
There is an interesting reason for his performance, though.
That is, I read that the night before his breakup scene with Lita, Nanovisator gave birth
to their child that night. And so he pulled an all-nighter
with Nanavizator during childbirth, drove right to Malibu to film his scene. And he said,
he actually felt very bad about his performance in this episode, because he said he just like
wasn't even there for the breakup scene mentally. He was just totally checked out because he said he just like wasn't even there for the breakup scene mentally.
He was just totally checked out
because he was fucked up and sleep deprived.
But I think there was a serenity there about him
in his detachment that I think really worked
for his performance in the EP.
So for all those reasons,
I'm gonna give Bishir my drunk Shimoda.
What about you?
I'm gonna give it to that enlisted lady
that Maureen gives the flower to.
She doesn't even have a rank, Pip, so she's presumably just a crewman of some kind.
There's no way that's oldest living Ensign.
No, no.
She's not even an Ensign.
But maybe oldest living Ensign got demoted.
She got busted down to crewman to crewman and now she's on DS9. Wow
Well, the reason she gets my drunk, she mode is she gets this flower from Morn and then
They they kiss and walk off together and then you know, DAX comes in and there's some
Some back and forth.
But you see her walk by alone on the promenade, like moments later, by herself.
I just like, I loved the story that that told, like whatever born tried, like, I don't
know if he was apologizing or proposing a date or what, but it did not go far
Renee Avershan Wah cut out the scene where she's talking to a friend and she's like he took
It out
That's fun. Yeah, so
She's my direction moada good job her, like a good background acting.
Yeah.
Center frame, that's what you want
if you're a background actor.
Yeah, she gets a lot of face action.
And back then.
You want to be the one in the sequence.
Yeah.
Good job.
Well, we need to figure out what episode
we're watching next in the sequence, Ben Dewey.
I guess we do, yeah.
Next episode is season five, episode eight, things passed.
Cisco, Odo, DAX and Garrick are mysteriously placed into the roles of a group of condemned
bejorins executed seven years.
Dot dot dot.
Uh oh.
We're getting a lot of dot dot dots.
A go.
Oh. I clicked on it and itatt datt. A go. Oh.
I clicked on it and it gave me the last word there.
Okay.
I thought they were, the show is just really leaning into the ellipses for all things.
But what it is leaning into, Adam, is the game of buttholes, the will of the profits over
it. God, that biz slash game. Do you want to tell us how we're going to be doing? game of buttholes. The will of the profits. Over at gush.bizslashgame.
Do you want to tell us how we're going to be doing the next episode?
We have really been getting our squares handed to us in this game, Ben.
Over and over we've slid down.
We are now on square 19.
Nineteen is the square and I've got a die in my hand.
You're required to learn as you play.
Roll.
Looks like a couple of squares ahead.
We've got a space but whole.
A couple of squares past that of banger.
So, here we go.
We hit that banger and that's why we're on 19, right?
Yep.
I have rolled a six.
Chula! Did I win?
Harvey.
We have hopped over that banger, leaving it safely behind us.
Very nice.
We are currently on square 25.
Okay.
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