The Greatest Generation - The Work of Idiots (DS9 S5E9)

Episode Date: October 14, 2019

When Odo finally gets an excuse to remand Quark into Federation custody, he’s remarkably incurious about whether the bartender is even guilty. But when an Orion bomb strands them on Planet Yosemite, the old adversaries will come to form a bond that only camping can forge. What kind of discipline does Jake have? Is shrapnel redundant in a runabout bomb? Would capitalism have forced Jake and Nog to work things out? It’s the episode that gets us all pruny. 🖖GET TICKETS TO GREATEST GEN KHAN II: STAR TREK III🖖 Follow The Game of Buttholes: The Will of the Prophets! Support the production of The Greatest Generation.

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I'm Ben Harrison. Can we die doing this? I think so. I'm looking around my bathroom and I'm seeing all the cables and I've plugged in my laptop. We're using powered microphones. This is the most dangerous episode we've ever recorded. We are both in our bathtubs today because we are recording Rotteric style. It's a naked now episode.

Sure is. Are you in fact naked? I put on swim trunks. Oh, Ben. Ben putting on swim trunks is the don't talk to Jonathan Freaks of doing the naked now episode. You get to take those things off, man. I just felt like I didn't want any distractions.

This is distracting enough. You think Roderick is wearing swim trunks? And his baths, he's not. If Roderick could be more nude than having no clothes on, that's what he would be. Got to tell you something I wasn't expecting. I'm feeling very hot. Yeah, it's very hot. I'm in a hot expecting. I'm feeling very hot. Yeah, it's very hot. I'm in a hot tub.

I'm wearing the cans. Yeah, the cans? Surprisingly warming. Yeah. Oh, this is a... This is really a thing. I'm actually looking forward to when the water starts to cool. I am not looking forward to hearing how this sounds. I did make some efforts to deaden my bathroom.

I have a sound blanket along the tiles in my tub area. I also have a very small bathroom. And I don't get, I feel like that may help. I don't really know. I'm no sound engineer. Yeah, I don't know either. I've got to tell you that you and I off-line talked a lot about the logistics for this. Yeah. And I was making a like I had

just assumed because why wouldn't I that my wife would be going to work today? Uh-huh. And when she made it clear that it was going to be a half work from home day and half go to the office day, I held my breath before hearing that the afternoon was the time when she was going to go to work. Right. But that then turned into about a half an hour ago into a actually I'm staying home. And then it dawned on me that I was going to have to have a very difficult conversation. Maybe the most difficult conversation I've ever had, which was where I had to tell her

why I was trying so hard to make plans for her outside of the house. How does one explain something like this to one's wife Adam? I told her that I didn't want to tell her the reason and that's something that you can't do. That's not that. That's not something that a trusting, loving marriage can... Like those are the traits of a trusting, loving marriage. For reasons of you losing respect for me, I don't want to tell you what I'm doing today. Yeah, and so she's like, you know,

I think she's fairly resigned in most of her questions having to do with our show She asked for and deserved answers and I she officially told her it was because I was embarrassed To take a bath with her in the house while doing my dorky Star Trek my dorky star trek pack. And to her credit, because she's a great person, she's a better person than I am, she said, well, why don't I just go work where you usually work, and then you work upstairs, where I usually work from home. And I don't have to be around it. You can just pretend like I'm not there. And so I'm in the upstairs bathroom while she's in the studio slash living space downstairs. It's like she's gone. Well, I have to say I really appreciate her accommodation of this and I appreciate your going out on a limb and you know, I think I would have

had a very similar sheepishness about approaching my wife with something like this, had she been working from home today. I kind of put you in a tough spot because I had already gotten my crap all set up by the time. Yeah, and I like- You sent me a picture- I just can't let her set up- I just can't already do a picture of my bathroom as motivation to make it work today. It worked? It really worked. I gotta describe to you how I'm sitting in the tub

because I think that would help the viewers at home to understand that I am, I'm a, I'm perpendicular tobing. Is it? I'm sitting kind of cross-legged. Oh wow. And I'm hanging my hands over the side. And for safety, I've put the mic outside of the tub

so that I'm leaning over into the mic. Because I'm really nervous that if the mic were to fall and I would die. That is smart. I'm realizing that the physics of where my mic is, make it, if the kn if the, if the, if the knuckle gives way, it's on a fulcrum that will just put it right in the drink.

So I'm gonna, I'm gonna take your advice and shift back a little bit. And I think this way, if it does go, it will hit the rim of the tub. But I did put a, a heavy lead weight at the bottom of my mic stand. Oh, that's smart. I didn't, I had, I have sandbags on my production kit and I didn't think to put any down there. a heavy lead weight at the bottom of my mic stand. That's smart.

I had sandbags on my production kit and I didn't think to put any down there. That was dumb. Gotta put a bag or it's not safe. Yeah, yeah, I mean, there's no getting out of this tub now. Yeah, you can't, you can't wet, go downstairs to where you keep your gear. One benefit of a tub time a Kimbo

is that more of my body is outside of the tub. Oh yeah. That's good for temperature purposes. I also have put a hand towel on my mic stand just on the boom arm so that I can keep my hands dry because I have paper notes and I like to scrub the episode occasionally when we're talking about it. And I have it on my phone here,

but hard to work the touch screen when you've got damp thingies. So many challenges to this episode, maybe the most challenging episode we've ever done. It's a surprising thing to learn in contravention of what John Roderick's lifestyle is all about, but maybe most typifying his lifestyle in some ways, this is the most complicated way to do a podcast. I almost want to dial him up for some help, some tips on this.

Just blow in a call. Yeah. Man, that could be worth it. Do you want to try for it? What's up, Adam? Hey, John. This is Adam, and I've got Ben. We're doing our Star Trek show right now.

Oh, how exciting. What happened is that we're doing our show from the tub now. Oh, how exciting. What happened is that we're doing our show from the tub today. Oh, nice. In honor of you, we kind of have a board game that's related to our Star Trek show. And some of the squares are for different types of shows that we do.

And there is a doing it Roderick style square that we landed on. And so Ben is in his tub, I'm in my tub. And we're doing our Star Trek show. And I thought we might want to ask you for some tub tips if you have any for long term tubbing. Yeah, of course, I've got like tons and tons of long term tubbing tips. Yeah, if you've got a minute, I would love some tips. Like, I guess my first question is, how do you keep from dying when you're surrounded by powered microphones and iPads and such? Do you ever feel like you're, Ben? Yeah, I'm I have a

Up to code bathroom. Okay, great. Well in that case, you know, you're not it. You're not at risk. Hopefully the breaker will trip Before you're electrocuted. Right. That's a that's a really long second there, right? Usually I keep, um, you know, so do you both have bass, bass, some kind? No, I'm using a step stool that I've put a bunch of things on, and Ben, what do you have going on? I've got, uh, I've got my stuff on a, I don't know, aluminum chair and a little, uh, little end table. And now, how are you keeping the, how are you talking into your microphones? Where are the microphones? So, so we're both on booms, but I'm, I'm perpendicularly sitting in my tub. So, to keep the microphone, if it were to fall from falling into the water.

And I think Ben has, has mirrored my positioning to that end. Well, okay, so the key to podcasting from the bathtub is the reason you're doing it is to be super comfortable, not to be awkward and, you know, like in a position that isn't maximum relaxation. Yeah, and we are not comfortable. I'm pretty good. What you need to do is you're equipment needs to conform to your most relaxed posture. All right. So, so you need to like sink down in the tub and then figure out where the mic needs to be. Okay. Position it that way.

That makes a ton of sense sense I have a question John swim trunks or no oh no you have to be in the bath you're not in a hot tub you're not man that was the first question I asked Ben and he said he was wearing trunks and I was shocked that I was the only one using it like a tub. What is he talking about? I don't know. Alright, they're coming off. Thank you for the love of all that's told me. Yeah, yeah. Gotta treat it like a tub. That's good advice.

Yeah, it's a tub. Any final advice that you would give us? Because we have about an hour ahead of some star-truck podcasting to do. Well, keep your feet out of the water. Oh. You know, the weak link in sitting in the bathtub for an hour, the weak links are your hands and your feet.

And if you're feet, a water to log, then you're going to start being uncomfortable and you want out of there. That makes sense. Wow, that is such a pro tip. Keep your feet up and keep your, you know, your hands out of the water. That way you can use your feet to kind of control your position in the bass. And also I'm hoping that you guys brought some snacks.

We don't eat on the show, John. I know that's a, that's in contravention of everything that you hold dear when you record. I have a peanut butter sandwich. There's just out of arms So you've got your computers on the stool. Yeah, yeah Well, I mean all I can think of to say is like Good hunting Yeah, all right. Well, I'm glad we ask the expert. I think this is valuable advice. Yeah, thanks so much. All right, well, I look forward to reading all the accounts of listening to the episode. Thanks, John. Thank you. Bye. Bye.

Good listen to us talk to John all the time by tuning into our other show, Friendly Fire. Free plug. Oh, man, I'm sweating so much. I think I'm going to take John's advice and do a little bit of mic repositioning. Again, my feet out of this tub. What do you say when we come back? We talk about Deep Space 9, Season 5, Episode 9, the I said. Let's do it at him. Do you realize how many? How many of all this seems? No, of course you don't. All right, I've changed positions. It occurs to me that this could be an episode that very closely follows the episode we're reviewing, because Quark gets colder and colder over the course of this episode. And we may find ourselves

subject to the same plight. That's a great point. Wow. The episode begins with a question that we've had on our minds for a long time, which is why does Jake live with his dad? Yeah. And he's moving out. He's gonna be getting his own place with nog on the other side of the station. He's moving to a different neighborhood. Yeah, the other side of the docking ring is where he's headed. And if you're a teenager,

that's probably the best place to go, right? That's probably the best place to go. They make the case that he's packing up his entire, all of his personal effects. And we do get to see kind of the greatest hits of the J.A.X.S. Go collection, go into this suitcase. But they also do the, the like, super fucked-out TV joke of somebody wildly overpacking a suitcase.

Right. In the dialogue. However, on screen, this suitcase has tons of capacity left. And when he closes it and the joke is supposed to be like, see, closed perfectly, it is, it is actually closed perfectly, totally undercutting the joke. Oh, go ahead, Jake. Make jokes. I love that the last thing that he puts into his suitcase is three fleshlights on top. He squirreled those away. Yeah, he sure did. Like a right in front of his dad.

Can't wait to spend my first night in my own place. The shamelessness of this is something to behold. There's something familiar happening here towards the end of the scene, which is like the post-move out visitation contract that you verbally make with a parent in this moment. Like I remember having one of the years when I moved away to college,

like you're gonna come back for Sunday dinner, right? You're gonna come back and do your laundry, right? Like, how often are we gonna get regular hangs? And this is an awkward moment for any parent and child, I think. Yeah, Jake is very diplomatic, blows the right amount of smoke up his dad's child, I think. Yeah. Jake is very diplomatic. Blows the right amount of smoke up his dad's ass, I think. But also, his dad is very smart and knows that he's getting smoke up his ass.

I have raised a very generous son. Yeah. I mean, it's not like he's moving across the state to college. I mean, how much, how long has a walk to the other side of the ring? Right. How long is a psych to psych transport to the other side of the ring? Right. Exactly. Yeah. He is not leaving town by any measure. His slap dash pack job foreshadows what the situation is going to be like in his living quarters. Like he's someone who doesn't really fold up his clothes before slamming him into the suitcase, right? Right. He has no discipline. I mean, he has different discipline. Oh, I guess so. He has the kind of discipline of knowing that you need to keep

your feet and hands out of the tub in order to maximize the amount of time you can spend in the tub. It has cooled me off quite a bit to get these feet out. I realize like the back of my head is totally soaked and I haven't put my head in the water, so that must be sweat. Must be, yeah, unlike sweating down the front of my face. Who does this? Fuck. I think.

Where it is. One thing I didn't ask John was about temperature of the tub. He's got to go with a cooler temp, right? Oh, yeah, I'm very, very stable. I mean, it's going to cool off, sustainable. I mean, it's gonna cool off, man. I honestly, I can't wait. I had, I brought a thermometer in here. You want me to check my, my water temp?

Yeah, you should. Shit, I dropped it out of our country. All right, hold on. This is what the viewers expected to hear. Yeah, this is, this is great content. This is definitely a good Star Trek podcast and not the work of idiots. I'm at 101 Fahrenheit right now.

There is no fucking way I'm at 101. I feel like I got to be hot to pot. I was at 105 when I got in and it was way too hot to sit down for me. I think I'm a little extra sensitive to heat because I kind of run hot. Yeah. So I like, I noticed that my wife runs cold and she always has the, you know, when we used to have a shower where you'd set the temperature, then you would turn a different knob to get the water flowing. Yeah. I noticed that it was always

too hot for me when it was set where she wanted it. And I know that you kind of run cold. So it's true. So maybe you have a higher tolerance for hot water than I do. I am just thinking that like wearing cans is a bad idea. Like ear buds, dial monitors, where the move. This is like I'm having a constantly wipe my ears out. Gross.

So we cut to the apartment in question where Jake and Nag are going to be living and Ram is in there getting it lovingly set up the way a parent might. He's kind of like this is sort of standing in for helping your kids move into the dorm. Right. Freshman year.

Because he didn't go to Starfleet Academy properly with Nog. Instead went to the past. But yeah, Cork comes in with a very thoughtful gift of a bunch of root beer and then Odo comes in And turns out Odo finally has Quark dead to rights on something really bad because he's going to be Remanding Quark to the custody of a Federation grand jury on Inferna Prime. I mean, the very name Inferna Prime makes you think of a place of some harsh justice, right? Yeah, it definitely sounds like something out of the Riddick universe. Right.

Like, everything's super on the nose. Yeah, yeah. Let's call this planet terrifier. Right. Yeah. Uh, Odo is not inclined to tell quark any more than this. Other than he's got to get into a run about with him. And so they go. It seems like a very unfetteration thing, right? That you would be taken into custody, but not told what you're accused of. That's the work of a fascist organization, not a utopia. Yeah, I thought the same thing. That would be a baseline expectation for modern times.

Yeah, but yeah, so they're going to be on a road trip together. And it is much more of a road trip than a con-air style prison transport. It would have been great if they had to put quark in the face cage. Yeah, it would have been amazing. If there'd been a, if there'd been like a, a little half wall of the train in the back where somebody snuck a bullet into the toilet paper roll tube.

This is the thing about the rules for quark, right? Yeah. When he's transported to the grand jury, like he's not handcuffed, he's not confined to the rear part of the runabout. He does not seem particularly imprisoned. Not at all, no one bit. Does quark need a lawyer?

He sure does. I wondered about whether like is quark going to be need a lawyer? Sure does. I wondered about whether like is Quirk going to be provided a lawyer when it gets there? Does he have the means to provide his own or do you need means to provide a lawyer in a federation context? I love that question and it makes me wonder in a measure of a man kind of way who would defend him from the station if they had to? Right. This doesn't seem like a measure of a man thing though because it's not, it's not a, while this is the best we can do for a trial given the possibility of people we have available to us.

Right. This is not going to be a trial episode. This is going to be an episode based on the hit 90s movie The Edge. With Anthony Hopkins and Alec Baldwin. Yeah. Is that written by the Glengarry Glendorosky? David Mammett, yep. Yeah. Baldwin and Mammett. Big pals in the 90s. You should watch that for the pork chap feed. Oh, that's a good, yeah. That's what lurks in the heart of man shit

is perfect for friendly fire. Agreed. One thing that lurks in the heart of Odo is some hornyness, Adam. Turns out Odo's been reading bodice rippers. What are you reading? I think that would interest you. I mean, is he reading it for titillation?

He makes the case that he's not, but I think Odo does protest too much. I prefer to be titilated in private. If that were what I were interested in doing, I wouldn't just do that in the driver's seat of a runabout. Yeah, I guess you have to either read it as Odo is actually doing what he's saying and trying to understand the human condition

and what motivates people to do crime, or Odo is a fucking perv and wants to jack off in front of quark. It would have been, you know, they couldn't have done it this way, but for that to have been an audiobook would have been very funny. Ha ha ha ha ha ha ha.

In a 24th century future, do you think much like the GPS of today, you could get your audiobooks read by any voice that you wanted? Oh man. That'd be kind of fun. I would get warped to read all my books. Delicious. Get current or read your bodice rippers. The The blood flow from both of his hearts increased wildly. I wonder how separate those systems are.

Like if you have one heart removed, does only one dick get a boner? I mean, I would just imagine that the erections would be half as hard. Oh, yeah. I mean, I don't believe the entire system collapses. But it could. What we need is, you know, like every once in a while, they'll release the Starfleet owner's manual for a starship, and it's like the Haynes manual for a ship. Yeah. I mean, I have that huge package of technical readouts for the enterprise. Yeah, like where is the, where's the, the Grey's Anatomy, like the surgical manual for Klingons?

Man, where is it? I think there's a market for that, Ben. Where's the alien autopsy for Klingons? Right. Go to Konto, Konto, Konto, Konto. So, this turns into killing time on the runabout. They've got a trip of days and days ahead of them. Yeah, it seems like Inferna is quite a ways away.

So, we've got to be story at him, and that is Nog is back on the station for a little while. I guess this is summer vacation, not summer vacation in that he's like off, but that he's like cycled back to a federation posting and it's kind of an intern for various jobs on the station. I would have assumed a year-round schedule for Starfleet Academy,

but yeah, I think he asked for and received a mission on DS9, and that's why he's there. Yeah, so. So if his curriculum. So he and Jake start to get settled into their new place after Cisco kind of big dogs nag on his way back onto the station.

Nag has really turned into a well-disciplined cadet and addresses Cisco with a totally different manner of address than before he left. He used to be like a begging, groveling, snickering little Welp, and now he's like, yes, sir, course sir, all the time sir, kind of guy. Right, I mean, no matter how straight he sits, he still needs a booster seat, and Cisco's office, you know, like he's barely head above desk there. Yeah, Cisco goes and gets a yellow pages out of the bookshelf, and does it on.

They re-incorporate Casa de Nojay. Jake Nog. The consortium, you know? Yeah. And it is awkward from jump. Yeah, Nog's doing. Nog's doing the Captain Kirk Dragah, a white hanky along every surface move.

Jake wants to play Xbox and spoke pot and hang out and now he wants to get really good reps in various starfleet roles while he's on the station. Yeah, Nog's trying to get gains. Yeah, he wants to go to bed at 10 p.m. get up at 4.30 a.m. hit the gym, work all day, wolf some dinner down, rinse, repeat. Right. Yeah, that structure has really made an impression on him. Muscles, Jake!

You know, those things are supposed to go between your bones and your skin? And it's just fucking greats with Jake's lifestyle. Captain Sisko, I guess, has never implemented a structure in their home life whatsoever, because this is totally alien to Jake. Yeah, Jake, it's like I have to clean the house. What?

Does that suggest that it's Ben Sisko cleaning their place after Jake? I think it's not cool. I think it's like robots that would clean their place. Like you never see them in this era of Trek, but the case is always made that everything is automated, right? Dirty dishes in the replicator, right? Right, so, I mean, you can leave your garments

all over the back of a couch and on the floor and stuff, but I think eventually a robot is coming along, unless you've either opted out of that service. Like, I kind of think Nog is doing this as sort of like a wax on wax off. He's been inculcated into this discipline lifestyle that is more about developing good habits overall that he won't actually need to clean his own quarters when he gets stationed on a starship, but it turns him into a better officer when he is used to living a really structured lifestyle. That's my theory.

Anyways. It's a good theory. This whole situation suggests that they have not been in touch at all, either. For being best friends, like Nog comes back from the academy totally changed in a way that surprises. Where if they were going, if they are as good a friends as we're made to believe that none of this should have been a surprise. Yeah, episode made me think that the dilemma with Jake from a writer's perspective is very similar to the dilemma

that they had with Wesley on TNG, which is, he's a main cast character, but also it doesn't make any sense that he's still here. Yeah, yeah. And I think we haven't got you to a little bit. Right. This is how they're cheating it. I think I've died and gone to the divine treasury. So this is going on. This Jake and Nog are went from being peas and carrots to oil and water. Very well established at this point. We cut back to the runabout. Also, oil and water are quirk and odo.

It's the same. It's dirt, dirt. Like they could have just had two different scenes of people complaining about their counterpart slurping their soup. Because they literally do that with Quarka No-Do. And Quarka is also agitated because he hears buzzing sounds that Odo cannot hear. But he starts to explore the space, trying to change the temperature and the runabout, things that maybe the H-track system,

but they actually open up a panel and discover a very scary-looking device secreted in the systems. What was this thing with all these numbers? Most squirreled away bombs look like shit, and this looks great. This looks appropriately scary, right? Yeah, I wondered if the silver part was just like when you tape a bunch of nails and screws to the outside of a pipe bomb to just like maximize the shrapnel. Yeah.

Like is that just, is that just like metal to be flung about when the black part explodes? It sure seems, it sure seems like any bomb on a runabout is going to kill. So the need for additional shrapnel would be redundant for vacuum of space reasons. But what comes out here is that this is an Orion syndicate bomb. The idea for this drangery thing is that Quark is being called to testify. Irrions don't kill their own because their own would be too afraid to testify against them in the first place. I'm a spoke, I'm a wheel. I saw you. If this isn't a Ryan bomb, why isn't it green?

Yeah, they have a brand. Why aren't they sticking with it? There's a bunch of green fingerprints on this panel. Almost like somebody covered in green paint, put it here. with it. There's a bunch of green fingerprints on this panel. Almost like somebody covered in green paint put it here. Right. Are the Orion's in the Federation? No, I don't think so. What's the jurisdiction that a Federation Grand jury would have? Wouldn't it be next to impossible for an Orion to get on a Federation craft and plant a bomb on a Federation space station? Also, if they weren't a member. Oh, it'll really sucks at his job sometimes.

He really does. And at no point during the episode does he take responsibility for their circumstances the way he should? Yeah, it's a bad look for him, but nobody notices that. Now. So they're gonna try and beam this bomb into space, but some

speculation about the bomb may be being rigged to blow when a Transporter signal locks on is Is given voice to and sure enough that's how it works and Quark is really close to it when it goes off Like it it blows both of them back, but Quark is like leaning over it. And I thought maybe like they should go to the other end of the ship and hope a bulkhead can close if it does blow a hole in the side of it. That would involve building the other side of a runabout. To our knowledge, they haven't done since the first time we've ever seen a runabout. They were spending so much money on going to Yosemite for this episode that they couldn't

they couldn't build that set. Yeah, it's too bad. That is a good idea. I love the like the talk about what the bomb could do is interesting like a bomb that's triggered by a transporter and an attempt to beam it away. Right. Like that holds together perfectly. I think the one big big hole in this episode is that they notice the bomb and they don't

immediately radio for help. Yeah. Instead, they try to handle it themselves and it blows up and it is comical. The things that this bomb has taken out, despite the fact that there's very little visible damage to the runabout. Right. The damage we get is in the form of they smoked up the interior of the set a little bit and some of the screens went to static, but not all of the screens went to static. Right.

And they have to put it down for an emergency landing on a barely livable planet. I think it was L-class. L is for livable, and parentheses, barely. And M is for Madness. Yeah. Mad parentheses, nice. Meticulously livable. Meticulous would appeal to Nog.

He would love to live on a meticulously livable planet. You write about this damage. That's a 75 year old biscuit. It's perfectly edible. So they like wake up in this in this run about. Odo's got show gun hair. And they're like, Ben, you know what? I'm not gonna say that. I'm not gonna say that. I'm not gonna say that. I'm not gonna say that. I'm not gonna say that.

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He does. He looks bad in this episode. It's like a whole new kind of bedraggled Odo where they had to discover here. Yeah. Yeah, and it's like a whole new kind of bedraggled Odo, where they had to discover here. Yeah, and it's cold, like that's the first sensation we're introduced to at this crash site. Like the windows are busted, they're looking outside at this at this mountain and forest, and they're starting to shiver already.

I'm fucking a pig. Mr. Bucket, I have to revert back to my dead state. Oh, I don't use the bucket anymore. Back on the station, we get Jake coming out of his bedroom with his blanket, which is TV code for, this is a lazy person having a lazy morning, and Nag is in the foreground doing arm day. I like these weights where you can like dial them to whatever mass you want them to be. Yeah, I like that too. It's cool. They must like interact with the artificial gravity. They always look the same. But I don't know why he has so many of them if that's the case.

Right. Yeah. What gives? Oh, I guess the other ones are on longer bars, so he can do like curls and stuff. Yeah. Oh, yeah, that makes sense. Different exercises, that's why. Yeah, but I mean, it's one of those things. This is really hard to sell when you're acting like you're lifting something heavy that's actually light. Right. Like, there's a resistance issue here to these scenes. Yeah, I think you can't do actually super heavy for the issue of, we don't know how many takes

we're gonna need to do. Right. But, I think Aaron Eisenberg sells it as well as anybody ever has, but it's not, it's still never, it's never perfect, you know. Definitely not a knock on him. Moving the giant foam boulder never looks right. Right.

The roommate relationship does not go well, enterprise, because right away, Nog is all over Jake's shit about leaving a stuff around and not waking up for arm's day. And he's like such a workaholic that he's even done some of Jake's work, which is he went into Jake's iPad and did like spell check and grammar check on one of Jake's short stories. You changed my words?

Jake doesn't take kindly to that because Jake already considers himself an artist. Yeah. An artist's no. You never let yourself be edited by anyone. Yeah. You never let yourself be edited by anyone. Yeah. Right, Rob? Rob doesn't listen to this show. Nope.

Not a chance. I just laughed at it because I was thinking about the fact that we edit each other. But it's a collaboration. So there's a sign sign off on every edit. Like, sure. And I think it's happening also in a way that Jake does not. Yeah, it is really overstepping to just invite yourself into somebody's creative process.

Right. I wouldn't just go and edit an episode of Drake about it. That would be weird. And then just put it out. You wouldn't be okay with that. Hey, check out my new podcast. I made it out of pieces of an old one. You'd probably be fine with that, to be honest. Yeah, Chris would be pissed.

Yeah. Back at the crash site, Quark has removed a giant transmitter from the runabout so that they can take it to higher ground. This is his idea. He's like, the higher you go, the less dense the atmosphere and the atmosphere is the thing that's interfering with their ability to get a signal out. I have to mention the most important reason for climbing a mountain. And bad news. Because it's there. But Cork wants to climb K2 in order to get it up there

because he points a bent finger out of the windshield and it's like, that's what we got to take it. Yeah, and it is like the comedy smash cut to hilariously craggie mountain peak. This is a big piece of gear for Quark to be lugging around. Unclear how they even got it out of the runabout. It's so big. Yeah, it seems big, but not ridiculously heavy. Yeah.

Like, you would kind of think that something this big in a runabout would be really dense with metal and machinery and wires and stuff. Like, cork carries it around. Like, it's a kind of an overstuffed grocery bag. It's made me think a lot about a video I made for giant airplane corporation. Because I love some of their work. It would shock you that I had always assumed that like the big heavy components

of the flight deck were put into the forward section before it was attached to the rest of the barrel of the fuselage. Right. But that is not how it goes. Like it's basically an empty forward section. All the barrel parts of the body are put together before steps put on board. Yeah. And so you got these guys carrying these giant panels that go on the flight deck basically

by hand. With all the switches and stuff. Yeah. Damn. Like through the flight deck door into position without banging it into another panel, it's insane. And it may be wonder like how you assemble a run about. Like those panels have got to be pre-installed before closing up the body, right?

I don't know. You know who you ask about that is Ben Sisko. He used to work at the shipyards at Utopia Plinesha. That guy knows. That guy got a good union job. Yeah. Good, good pan middle class job. You know that guy's not working swing shift.

Yeah, so they have to go to higher ground. They, uh, they need to suit up. They got to like make warm clothes out of blankets or at least Odo thinks they do He's like cutting armholes into a blanket to make it into a poncho and quart comes out of the back in like a silver wrap video costume This is a real serious question. Is this the first time Odo has ever felt cold? Oh, man

Because if you live on the station, you're probably perfectly temperature controlled. I mean, all of us away team, all of us away missions would, I don't know, suppose a level of comfort. There's gotta be a, a like operating temperature for a gold though. You know, they got like, they must freeze at a certain temperature. Sure. Yeah, I guess.

But in that way, I wonder how discomfort is different from temperature discomfort. Right. In his experience. Right. But this is another example of, of Odo being a solid and making no reference to things that solids go through based on their environment.

Right, this is new territory. Yeah, I love how they split up the cold weather gear and the each wear one glove. That's really good. I thought that was a great detail. Yeah. Gotta be fair. For all of the climbing apiece that they're theoretically doing in this episode, and they

even call this out at a couple of points, but almost always they're depicted walking down a slope. Yeah. There are very few moments where you see them actually going up something. Yeah, they're really making their job harder. I don't know why that would be. You just got a zigzag uphill. Yeah, that's the way to do it.

I mean, neither of them have much experience at this. You would think. Right. They're not outdoorsman, they're not a climatist to the altitude. And they've got to cover this great distance, right? And the terrain is just getting rugged and ruggeder as they go.

It's a pressure cooker for these tearing eyes who talk a lot about how much they hate each other and you know, grow to hate each other more and more, the more exhausted and hungry they become. Yeah. I mean, it's like, it's like going on vacation with someone. Like, if things are good with a companion and you do that, then things will be good. But if things are bad, it tends to magnify whatever feelings you have beforehand, you know? Boy, I definitely had a lot of anticipation

leading up to your birthday trip this year for that reason. Like, we've traveled together a lot for tours, but it's been really fun. But we never see each other on tour, and that's part of why those work. And like, I was like, man, like if Adam and I spend a week in a fun hang context together, are we gonna hate each other at the end?

And I was very glad that we did not hate each other at the end. You're very agreeable. It went well. It did. The mission went well, Enterprise. Yeah. Yeah, we didn't handsen that trip up at all. No, we did great. Back on DS9, Nagano Bryan are finishing up a shift and Nagkom's home to find his apartment a mess. This is such an affront to his sensibility that they break up. Yeah, I feel like O'Brien and Kira and maybe not even Dax just get little cameos in this episode.

It's true. Just to be like, hey, I'm a character on this show too. Yeah, that's crummy. You sort of look at the script and you're like, is this a weak off from me or not? You really start looking forward to those call sheets. Right. How might under-Aren Eisenberg on the call sheet today? That's got to feel weird.

Yeah. We're not knocking Aaron Eisenberg. Not at all. It's just a different situation for everyone, I think. Yeah. It's fun. I feel strange, but also good. Jake is a real layabout. He has in nine hours taken the apartment from spik and span, you know, regulation apartment to Jake's Cisco pigstie where he's, he's, you know,

playing video games on his phone and just that. He's not engaged. I have a site in this conflict and it would surprise you very little to know that I'm on Nogside. Because his weird hang ups, they don't, they aren't things that affect Jake and, and where he lives in a way that Jake's do. Like, Jake's decisions are hurting Nog. Right. Nog is writing for, let's get up and work out together, but he's not going to force Jake to do that if Jake doesn't want to. And he's not doing it in Jake's bedroom. Jake is forcing Nag to live in

unacceptably messy circumstances. This place is adult. And he's not even trying either, and that I think is the part that hurts the most, right? Like, it would be one thing if Jake... Jake is a clut, and he spills the pots and pans everywhere, and like, that could be one thing, but he's just laying about not even trying,

and that you just can't not try. So you're kind of making the case that Jake is sort of the me of this situation. I have never got to you. I've never gotten the sense that you're untidy in this way. I'm a little bit untidy. I'd say that a-

You pick up well before I come over. I do. I definitely wanna make a presentable place for guests. But I think that I'm more of a clean and my wife is more of a tidy. If that makes sense. It does. And I think that that's actually good because we can kind of fill in where, you know, like I might look at a table that has a bunch of clutter

on it and not notice or care in a way that drives her nuts, but I might like spend the day scrubbing out under the toilet in a way that she would not necessarily care to do. So I think we're a little more like, now that I'm hearing this. I think I'm that. Yeah.

But yeah, they decided to move out. This did not last long. I think I agree with this decision. Doesn't look like it's gonna work. What do you think the time span is here? Like a week? Well, it was four days after the runabout took off before it crashed.

Right. So then like, we hear them talking about how they've been walking for days and days and days when they're talking about hiking up this mountain together, right? I think that makes sense. Then it's got to be around a week. No. It's been one week. In my experience, you would just have to make it work because we live in a brutally

rapacious capitalist system and rents are so high that like all the economic pressure is on figuring out a way to make it work. Yeah. Yeah, there's no such motivation for them. They could, they could quit at any time. Yeah, breaking, breaking the lease on deep space nine is not a big deal. It's like being married without having kids. Yeah.

I'm a rain, come to it for a moment. I'm a rain, come to it for a moment. What are you doing? What are you doing? What are you doing now? I'm a rain, come to it for a moment. I'm a rain, come to it for a moment. I'm a rain, come to it for a moment.

I'm a rain, come to it for a moment. I'm a rain, come to it for a moment. I'm a rain, come to it for a moment. I'm a rain, come to it for a moment. I'm a rain, come to it for a moment. I'm a rain, come to it for a moment. I'm a rain, come to it for a moment. I'm a rain, come to it for a moment. I'm a rain, come to it for a moment. This is a situation that is heated enough that the parents become involved. Because Rahm and Captain Cisco are hanging in the Reppelmat and Rahm is like, you know, Nugg sure is acting a lot different and I'm becoming concerned. So concerned about his festitiousness is wrong that he has in nogg sleep taken his blood to see if he was gold, which is the

greatest hair-brained suspicion slash plan ever. It makes a ton of sense. Yeah. I mean, I love that texture too that just like anybody acting weird in this world, anybody acting at all weird might arouse this kind of suspicion and how unnerving that must be for people that live like this. I love it. It should happen more often. Yeah, a great little twist in there. I love also, I mean, we've talked about this before, like those moments where Rom and Cisco become peers are always really fun because so much of the time, Rom is the dumbest butt of the joke, Schlamaasel on the station. And Cisco is the king of the castle. is the king of the castle, but occasionally they are just two dads of best friends. I love that ROM has just confided something insane to Captain Cisco and Captain Cisco. Like, does not make him feel dumb for that.

Right, it doesn't turn him into the authorities, he doesn't judge. It's just like, yeah, perfectly reasonable. I think our sons have a lot to learn from each other too. And that's how the scene ends, right? It's like, I think we should conspire to do something to put them together again. And then that's how the scene ends. Yeah.

Back on the planet surface, things have gotten to the level bleakness wise that, you know, it's taking a long time to wake up from sleep, to run out of food. Cork's gone deaf in one year. It's really bad. And they've reached the slap-thite part of what's happening. Like, frustrations have boiled over.

Camping Cork is really the wildest quirk, you know. I'm a fire! Woo-hoo-hoo-hoo! Camping Cork resembles camping Adam. Ha-ha-ha-ha-ha-ha-ha at him. You get a very short fuse. Totally a short fuse, yeah. And this fight does not go well because during the slap fight, they maneuver into that roll around kind of slap fight.

They roll down a hill and at the bottom of that hill, Odo's leg gets bent the wrong way. Yeah, they are really trying to out-loser each other in the argument that leads up to this. Like, Quark is like making the case, I'm not a criminal, I'm going to be testifying against the Orion's. Then Odo goes like, oh yeah, but you probably can't even afford to pay the like membership dues of being in the syndicate. That's what a big loser you are. Right.

And quirk flips that shit back in his face like, well, you've been, you've been obsessed with nailing me for a crime your entire career. So who's the loser? They both know each other's buttons. Yeah. Exactly how to push him. And, and this is the, and, and, and, and, and, and and Odo being a solid like breaking a leg is the most vivid illustration of how frail he has

become. I hate to keep hitting on this, but like what a spectacular moment for Odo's life to break a bone. And yet he treats it as if it's a thing that that happens to him specifically, you know, like he knows what it is. Right. He can he can front it in a way that is not panicked in a way that I feel like should be. Like what, what does that got to feel like for someone who's not used to feeling bone or skin or anything? It tracks though, right? Cause he's like such a prideful character.

He's so like, he's so concerned with his own sense of dignity. Yeah. That, um, you know, and they use this, they use that all the time. Like when Odo gets be dragiled, it's a big deal because he doesn't want anybody to see him at anything less than 100%.

So this vulnerability that he suddenly has with Quark is pretty major. Stop looking at the leg. Right, and this puts a lot of pressure on Quark to go from a guy who insults Odo and slap fights him into breaking his leg to a guy who's got to put Odo back together and put his leg in a splint and put Odo on a stretcher

and take him up the mountain. This sludge made me think that they should have built a sledge for the transmitter the whole time. Like if you can, if there are available materials to build a sledge, then you don't have to carry the entire weight of the transmitter on your back. That was totally dumb, you're right. Get it, get it, get it, get it.

Sook at this. Yeah. Not at this. I mean, I think I would probably suck at surviving in the wild if I was in a plane crash or whatever I know they lost a lot of shit in the runabout crash But wouldn't you think that there would be a tiny black box toolbox full of like a paper manual about how to survive on Class L planets and yeah

Like this is bad runabout design, isn't it? The runabout needs more Emergency preparedness kit. Yeah, agreed. We get a really interesting and well-done passage of time, montage here, of quark stretching Odo up the mountain, and it is a fairly surprising feat of strength, and I think it's a good look for his character. Yeah. It ends with him collapsing literally like cannot go any further because he is so rung out. And this is where the rubber really meets the road in their dispute. Like, Odo is furious at the circumstances. He basically calls Quarka lazy bum, like if War for Dax or Cisco were here, do you think that they would be lying face down on the ground?

And Quarka's saying, like, listen, I'm not them. I'm a fucking bartender, leave me alone. Yeah, yeah, standards are too high. But by way of demonstrating what it's gonna take to get out of this, Odo takes matters into his own hands and is making the case that he's going to belly crawl the transmitter the rest of the way with one leg in a splint. Yeah. He's going to get that transmitter up there or he's going to die trying. That'll like his chances. Yeah. But a great freshman rap album.

You know kind of questionable messaging in the in some of the songs, but Really fun party party jams in there both of these characters get these moments But Quark's moment happens first where he kind of like there's the resignation starting to set in followed by the Rocky Balboa moment of like an inner voice telling him that he's got to keep moving Lest his bones don't get sold right you know like whatever you need to tell yourself to keep moving is what Quark does and then he drinks a can of lip-dened brisk and he gets his second wind Now that is all Vulges give his underdrick Quark does. And then he drinks a can of lipdened brisk and he gets his second win. Back on Deep Space 9 in Jake's quarters, Captain Cisco is the bear of bad news because

a two person quarters must be double occupied. It's not like Jake can just live there on his own. Pretty presumptuous also that Jake would expect post break up that he would get the quarters, right? Yeah, what the hell, Jake? I guess he's just thinking he's the captain's son and that's how things would go. Right.

That's Captain's son's privilege, I guess. Maybe he did that thing where he was the only one that signed the lease and then was like collecting rent from the rest of the roommates, which kind of put him in an unearned position of power. Yeah. Yeah. And so he produces nog from side stage and says, you guys need to work things out. And then they do for no reason. I think for the reason that they're best buds. I don't think it has to be any more complicated than that. That at the end of the day, they love each other. And they've been acting like assholes to each other,

but they are able to reunite in friendship. I think a main quality of our friendship is the ease with which we apologize to each other. I think that happens a lot and I think that's good. And I didn't hear an apology in the scene. And that is a big problem for me. They just sort of snap back into their old relationship. Okay, Adam.

I am sorry that we had this square on our game board. I don't know what else you want me to say. Thank you, Ben. I appreciate that. I'm glad that you recognize this as your fault. And I have nothing to apologize for. You know what I mean? It just seems like they skipped a step. And that's all. Like I totally believe that it's their closeness and their best friendsness that is possible. But there's a property, a necessary property to getting over something that is missing from this scene. Right. Now I could be like, hey, you know, like I've been living in this ridiculously structured, freshman dorm at a military academy situation. And that's just the rut I'm in right now. And I could see how that would really harsh your mellow. And I'm sorry for having done that. And then Jay could be like, hey, man, what you're doing

is like super cool and important. And I'm really proud of you for doing it. And I'm sorry if my being a groovy artist type is at all gotten in the way of that. You know, now that we're talking it out, they never really have had that friendship where they can find deep stuff to each other. Like, nog forever kept his interest in Starfleet Academy

from Jake. Yeah. Jake hides his stories from Nag and is hyper defensive whenever Nag attempts to read or edit them. It's the friendship of convenience that you have when you're a child where these are the kids that are around. So you make friendships with them,

but they might be the most lasting lifelong friendships. And maybe in an even more concentrated way because you could call them like military kids. Like this is the age that you like start to learn how to do that too. Like how do you transition a friendship? Like Nog is the kid that went away to college coming home to the towny friend who did not.

Yeah, Jake is working at the tasty freeze. Yeah. And his life is hella different. Yeah. I mean, I had a gap year and I tried to go to college but couldn't and spent a year at home. And it was really different. Like, I had a very hard time relating to my friends who had gotten a full two semesters of college under their belt when they came back. Yeah. Like that summer, I felt very alienated from them in a lot of ways.

So I can relate to both of them, I think. Yeah. Yeah. Like there's never, Jake never gives voice to an idea that he missed a train. Right. And got left behind or that he really missed Nog. Yeah. That's a good point like think about that scene where where dogs back for the first time they don't

launch into their old patterns it's almost immediately different for them. Right they are trying to perform their new adulthood to each other. Yeah how's your temperature? Oh let's I'm gonna check in on the temperature. Wow, holding steady at 97 degrees Fahrenheit. That's a surprise. I mean, it's definitely like, I think you kind of acclimate to your tub, because I'm used to like taking a long bath

where I occasionally have to like turn on the, turn on the thing to heat it back up a little bit, like warm up your coffee at the diner style. Yeah. Are you a bathman? The where I am is on tour. Like I have come to really enjoy a getting back super late at night to the room. Because I'm usually super wired after a show and it helps calm me down.

And you kind of like have a little libousky in the bathtub. Yeah, I'll have like maybe last beer before bed, but I don't do it at home. Wow, I've done it a couple of times and I've had like a sore knee or something. And it's something I think about a lot, but I never set the time aside for it. And maybe I should.

I like it. Yeah, I don't think it's going to change my behavior for the... I don't think that we should record like this next week, for example, but... Forever, I would argue. Blow it off the board, Ben. Adam's ideal board is just a field of numbers that don't have any special squares at all. Yeah, every show is special to me. Back on the planet, Quark is scaling a sheer rock face by himself.

Ready for the best ride in the park? Yeah, Odo records his last wishes, which are fairly rugged. Odo makes some disrespect for Quark into his final log entry. Like, that loser probably wants his bones, put in hockey pucks, and then as for myself, put my ashes in my bucket and fire it into the wormhole. I've got to believe that there was a conversation in the writers room that went like, is that too harsh? And then a lot of people were like, no, that is Odo. Yeah.

That is, it made me think about that like crab in a bucket mentality idea. What is that? I'll read you from the Wikipedia entry because I wanted to remind myself precisely crab mentality, also known as crabs in a bucket, is a way of thinking best described by the phrase, if I can't have it, neither can you. The metaphor is derived from a pattern of behavior noted in crabs when they are trapped in a bucket. Well, any one crab could easily escape its efforts will be undermined by others, ensuring

the group's collective demise. Wow. And I kind of feel like, like the invocation of Oto's bucket at this moment, maybe an intentional nod to that idea because of the way he is talking about quirk in this moment, but quirk proves him wrong crucially, because no sooner as he got in this out than the transporter beam engages and we cut to the little D in orbit of this planet.

That had to feel so great to feel the the transporter beam on you at that exact moment, you know. Why didn't they beam Oto directly to the infirmary? They just beam a mandu a tarp. Yeah. They should have. That's crazy. Yeah. Warf and Dax get to be in the episode for a little split second. I'm sure they both asked like, could I just be off screen and not put the make up on? I'm sure Michael Dorn and Terry Farrell were both like, can't you just beam them into the infirmary? They had the same question you did. Yeah, can you just give me a full week's pay

and I don't have to actually come into work? Yeah, that is a depressing call sheet for them. But yeah, they wake up on slabs together. I guess, I guess they're back on deep face night at this point, right? No, they're on, they're on the little D. They're in the six bay on the little D. Yeah. You know, it's an A story and a B story of best buds reunited. You know, re-connecting as friends. That's right right because the currency of quark and odos relationship is there is their brutal honesty and they're hatred for each other. A hatred that makes them laugh. Right.

And it's a little different for for the no-j consortium. One would think. Yeah. Well, what do you think, Adam? Did you like the episode? I like that we're getting toward the end of tub time. I'm ready to get out. I'm starting to get a little raisiny. Oh yeah, have you had your feet in? Yeah, I admit I put my feet back in. Oh man, I've been, I've been, I've let them slip in a couple of times, but I've been really like

working carefully to keep them out. My temperatures moderated a little bit better, which is nice. Yeah. That was a tough first hour. I think I'm going to need a shower after this bath. I believe it. I'm definitely feeling sweaty and gross. Yeah, why do people do this?

This is not better. Anyway, did I like the episode? Yeah, I did. I love a fuel trip episode and I like an episode where we pair off our characters in interesting ways. I mean, these weren't surprising outcomes or surprising revelations between them, but I do like getting specifically, I like getting a quark and odo pairing where they can really chop it up where we can really get to the core of their hate for each other. And still, for all the hate that there is,

it is so non-spicy. Right. Like it's professional. It, like even when they were pre-slap fight, even when they were during slap fight, like, they cut, but it's shallow cutting. Yeah. I just, and that's fine because you can't have the steak

so high that you could risk ruining a relationship between two main characters. I guess that's just not a possibility here. But I did like the pairings. I did like seeing what happened to Nog. I think he's an interesting, he's a more interesting character now. I think and I wonder if he's gonna be at all tortured

by what he's become, you know? Do you think Nog is gonna be like one of those shitty comedians that gets hired on SNL and then they go back through their their Twitter history and it's like oh you've been doing inappropriate shit since as recently as last year. Well it just strikes me as something that you know people who make massive philosophical changes to their life and then lean into those changes extremely hard. Yeah. Are often the ones that then drop them as quickly as they pick them up

Right, so I would wonder like is that coming or is or his is his grasp on these things that he's gotten from Starfleet weaker than The rest for that reason. I don't know but getting back to an original question I did like the episode a lot. There's a lot of new things happening here that I enjoyed so I was into it. What about you? Yeah, I liked I liked getting out and being in an unfamiliar outdoor environment. I thought they did a great job of having it not look like Southern California, even though it probably was, you know. Yeah, yeah. Like it just felt like it feels really special to be in as an exotic, as exotic a locale as this was. And I always love when they do that.

Yeah. And I think it's like overhaul the episode's really good. I hope our friendship can recover from this bathtub as well as the two pairs of friendships in this episode recover. Yeah, we'll see. Do you want to see if we have any Friday one messages? Yeah, let's do that.

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Look, your podcast apps are already open. Just pull it out. Give Jordan Jesse Goatry. Being smart is hard. Be dumb instead. Oh, Russ, hey, hey, I'm about to count you in line. These clouds are really freaking me out. I hate having to stand in line and boy, what do I?

These giraffes do not smell good. No, they do not, and they've such short nacks. But I'm here and we need to get on this. We've got to get on the art. It is about terrain, about a spout to destroy humanity. Hey, oh, sorry, sorry, sorry. Are you Noah? Yeah, I know we look like humans.

We're actually, we're podcasters. Yes, probably. We are podcasters, so it's different. Have you heard of Ono Ross and Carrie? We investigate spirituality, claims of the paranormal, stuff like that. And you have a boat and say the world's gonna end, so same like something for us to check out. We would love to be on the boats. We came to by two.

What do you think? Ono Ross and Carrie, available on MaximumFun.org. Hey Adam. Did you find yourself a drunk Shimoda? Yeah, there is a moment early on in the episode when Rahm is preparing the welcome wagon for his son and Quark is there. The bit is that Rahm keeps expecting Nag to walk through that door and it never is.

Right. And when Odo walks in, Quark's back is turned and under his breath, he says, wrong again. In such a way that like I don't know if they're going to when Odo walks in, Quark's back is turned, and under his breath, he says, wrong again. In such a way that, like, I don't know if they dropped that in later, or if that was in the moment and recorded, diagetically, or what, but I thought it was great, like a great little moment,

and like the thing about dialogue and acting is that when you deliver a piece of dialogue and you're an actor, you prefer to have your face facing the camera. Right. And so when Quark does this at the door and you still hear it, that's a pretty unique moment in a television program and something that I seized onto right away,

so that that was a good moment for Quark for saying something under his breath so good and funny that it still stayed in the scene even though his face wasn't facing the camera. So that's my drunk Shimoda. My drink Shimoda is nog. There's that scene where he's pumping iron. And then he just goes off to work. He did his workout in his work clothes at him. Gross. Yeah. That does not look like a breathable garment. No. Maybe for Angie sweat like through their tongue, like dogs. Otherwise, gross. Yeah. Yeah. Ugh. God, could you imagine what that thing smells like?

Like a hockey bag. Like a hockey bag. Yep. Did you ever play ice hockey? No, no, but like the legend. I know from hockey bag. Like a hockey bag, yep. Did you ever play ice hockey? No, no, but like the legend. I didn't know from hockey bags. Because a hockey bag is legendarily stinky. Yeah, you don't even have to play hockey to know that. I played ice hockey for a few years after the mighty Dex motion picture was released. And that's what inspired you.

My dad always said that that's the most expensive movie ticket he ever bought. That's a good line. Yeah, because I came home and was like, I want skates, I want pads, I want to play ice hockey. How about I just take you to stock a Mio S2Vs? That would be easier. Wow. Yeah.

That was pretty good up until everybody but me hit puberty and then they introduced hitting. Yeah, and then I was not good. It's when you switched to tennis. I switched to crew, Adam. Why don't you switch the conversation to what episode we're going to watch next? Adam, the next episode is season five, episode nine, the rapture. That is season five episode nine, The Rapture. Cisco is plagued by life-threatening visions that may hold the key to Pageora's future. It's a profit episode.

Oh. Back to that. Seems like it's becoming more and more of a deeper callback. Right. But that will be the next episode. How will we be doing that episode, Adam? Well, there's only one way to find out. It's by consulting a game that's never let us down before.

Not ever. It's the game of buttholes, will of the profits. Let's see what sort of trash episode it makes us do next time. When we go to the statistics of this episode and makes us do next time. When we go to the statistics of this episode and see that 98% of the people who listen stop listening after two minutes, we will know what kind of a mistake this was. What extreme discomfort we put ourselves through for a very ineffective episode. Yeah. To the six people who are still here, thank you for your service. You're required to learn as you play.

Roar. Well, Ben, our runabout is currently on square 28, which means the only thing in range is a measure of a man episode. Yeah. I've got a... I've had the die in the tub the whole time. And I've now taken it above water, dried it off, and I'm ready to roll. Yeah, make sure you roll that on the tile

on the floor of the bathroom and not in the tub. I don't think that, as technically, in bounds. No, you know what? I'm gonna roll it back in the tub. I'm just gonna scoop the suds out of the way to read with the dices. How's that? Okay. Tula! Did I win?

Harvey. And in classic fashion, Ben, I've rolled a one. Okay, so we're on 29, a regular old episode. A dry episode, Ben. Is what I like to call them. Yeah, I guess. From now on forever. In more ways than one, a dry episode. Wow, I'm looking forward to that.

Ben, I have a proposal for the end credits of this episode. What do you say you pop the plunger on your top? No, I have. And we let these things drain while we do the credits. Okay. All right. Wow, well we gotta thank everyone who supports the show for its maximum fund out or slash donate

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Unlike right now it is very respectfully done I do not want to see what I'm seeing. Yeah, it's not pretty This is not tasteful in any way Yeah, I mean if Warford had drink my bathwater, he would he would think it were prune juice A warrior's bathwater Think is that it I think I think I think we have I think we have debased ourselves enough be sure to listen next time We're another great episode of deep space nine and an episode of the greatest generation That is thankfully dry based ourselves enough. Make it sound.

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