The Greatest Generation - There Are Four Pipes! (ENT S3E20)
Episode Date: September 22, 2025When Archer is pushing hard to meet Degra on time, Trip struggles with his grief as repairs continue on the Entrepreneur. But after Jannar asks for more proof and Degra blows up a reptilian ship, Arch...er gets invited to speak to the council if he can make it through the nebula in one piece. In what specific way is Crewman Taylor in a better place? Which hobby does Trip use the bronze scuba suit for? What’s the amazing thing about This Ain’t Cheers? It’s the episode that could have epically killed off a main character.Support the production of The Greatest GenerationGet a thing at podshop.biz!Sign up for our mailing list!Follow The Game of Buttholes: The Will of the Riker - Quantum LeapThe Greatest Generation is produced by Wynde PriddySocial media is managed by Rob Adler and Bill TilleyMusic by Adam Ragusea & Dark MateriaFriends of DeSoto for: Labor | Democracy | JusticeDiscuss the show using the hashtag #GreatestGen and find us on social media:YouTube | Facebook | X | Instagram | TikTok | Mastodon | Bluesky | ThreadsAnd check out these online communities run by FODs: Reddit | USS Hood Discord | Facebook group | Wikia | FriendsOfDeSoto.social
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Here's to the finest crew in starving.
When it comes to my crew, you won't get any argument for me.
This is a parody.
Paramount owns the song.
Welcome to the greatest generation.
It's a Star Trek podcast by a couple of guys who are just a little bit embarrassed about having a Star Trek podcast.
I'm Ben Harrison.
I'm Adam Pranika.
You really bill-mired that word in the open.
Oh, man.
Ben, wouldn't you say you're a little bit embarrassed to have a Star Trek podcast?
Blah, blah, blah, blah.
That is what he says a lot of the time.
New rule.
Blah, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah.
Blah, blah, blah.
I'm leaving for Vegas in the morning.
Yeah.
For the fifth and final time maybe in my life.
You say that every time you go.
head's a little scrambly.
Yeah.
As a result.
Yeah.
Are you one bagging at this time?
Oh, you know it.
Yeah.
Best way to fly.
Going out of Burbank?
No.
Whoa.
Okay.
Not doing the Burr.
I'm doing that thing where my wife is out of town for work and I'm dropping a car off for her to pick up because she's landing an hour or so after I take off.
So.
You're going to ships in the night at again.
Very elegant maneuver there with the parking.
This happened the last time you went to Vegas.
Yeah, we're getting good at it.
Yeah.
Wow.
Why don't you tell me what I should do in Vegas?
What's your favorite thing to do in Vegas?
And then maybe I can try to do it.
Hmm.
I mean, I do.
I feel like we've done a lot of my favorite things to do in Vegas together.
Besides buying a teaky glass and smashing it.
Like, what's your second favorite thing?
One thing that I've found is a nice thing about Vegas is some of the hotels have moved.
have movie theaters right there inside of them.
And I would say in the last three years, I've seen more movies in Vegas than I have seen
in theaters in Los Angeles or maybe an equal number.
Wow.
Because I'll be in Vegas and I'll just be like, well, there's a fucking movie theater downstairs.
I'll just go see a movie and nothing can stop me.
Ben, I went to see a movie in a theater today.
I'm shocked by this.
Did you see a movie during Star Trek, Las Vegas?
This year, I didn't, but, you know, it was a different year.
We were manning the booth so much.
Usually, usually I do.
Like, last year at STLV, I saw three movies.
Crazy.
Saw Twisters.
I saw, what was that horrible movie?
Wolverine meets Deadpool, something like that.
Yeah, I saw a lot of movies.
I like Twisters a lot, good movie theater movie.
Twisters was a great movie theater movie, yeah.
You know, we're always there during something.
or so there's some blockbustery scale stuff out usually when I'm in town.
An off-strip sojourn, like to the pinball museum or something like that is always a fun little diversion.
But you're going to play poker, man.
Like you're going for the reason they built that town.
Yeah, I'm going for a steak and a gamble.
That's going to be my couple of days there.
It's going to be great.
Betts, bets, bets.
Best of luck.
Yeah.
I hope you take all of their roles, as a fellow says.
I'll do my best.
I'll follow up on the next episode.
You'll have to remember to ask me.
Wow.
I will not remember, but yeah, I'm excited for you.
You know why, Adam?
That will be one of the many forgotten things in my life.
See, I threw you the reference underhanded and I thought you'd missed it.
But no, you didn't miss it.
I had to go back for it.
What you did was you swung the bat and,
And then the bat hit the ball on the other side.
On the come around?
Yeah.
Yeah, clumsy.
You know, I'm clumsy on the best of days.
This isn't even the best of days.
Very rom in Take Me Out to the Hollow Suite.
Was that pivot to episode, Ben.
Let's get into one that's bright and shiny and fun.
Star Trek Enterprise Season 3, Episode 20.
It's called The Forgotten.
And guitar
So we've got that very fucked-up entrepreneur at Warp.
We got tin-canned a little bit last time on.
And because of the feeling of being way, way down in the final quarter, we get Archer addressing the troops.
And this happens in the shuttle bay so that he can be up on the second level, yelling down at everybody like an emperor.
enterprise is a tough ship
it's a stirring speech
about how we're still in this fight
and we're still going to do everything we can
to keep the earth from being
blown up in the nuclear hellfire
that the Zindy mean to visit on it
but we also got to set aside some time
to remember the dead
18 people have died so far on this mission
the way you said that
is what makes me so upset
if we have some time let's talk about the dead
then let's presume that you have some sort of consciousness after death if i'm one of the 18 i am so
fucking pissed do not use what should be a eulogy about me to talk about this other thing the ship
sacrificing itself as if the ship that the ship is better than me who actually died as a
sacrifice i feel like i would be like don't talk about any of it get back to fucking work
Like, don't make me have died in vain
so that you can make your big
grand eloquent speech.
I want you to take it to them Zindis.
I want my own time.
I want my own memorial.
I don't want to share it
with 17 people in a ship.
I don't want to, like,
be wondering how much of each pipe
on the bagpipe is allotted to me.
I want all the pipes.
I'm going to put you right on the spot here, man.
And I know,
I know you'll do it. Hey, hands up off of the keyboard. Let me see them. How many pipes are on a bagpipe?
Three? Are there, oh, well, plus the mouth pipe, right? That counts as a pipe.
Does that a pipe? So I'm going to say four, four total. I'm looking it up now. Your hands are still up.
Is there a standard? Is there like a base bagpipe that's got like one massive pipe?
Hey, Ben, you're going to love this. You're going to love this. You ready?
Okay.
There are four pipes.
Yeah, this is a Star Trek podcast, motherfucker.
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We have a conversation between Tripp and to Paul and Archer,
more conversation about all the dead people,
and also the weapons, which,
are weapons are back
like the ship is very fucked up there's
there's a lot wrong with the ship
and Tripp is like kind of advocating
for like maybe before we go meet
up with your boy DeGra Archer
we stop and patch
things up a little bit like
tighten some of these screws
lick our wounds before we try
to like run
into what is almost certainly a trap
to finally destroy our ship
it's the hierarchy of priorities
though meeting with DeGra in 10
hours is the thing that supersedes all of it. Like, no matter what, we got to make this meeting.
You can do whatever you want in the next 10 hours, Tripp. Yeah. This is when Archer gives Tripp a mission
that he is not relishing, which is write a letter to the family of a woman that worked in
your crew. Like, one of the engineers is dead. I guess Archer will write the other 17 letters,
but Tripp has to write one of them. Archer's like, I already.
put another crew person on the other
17 letters and God I could not
get him to not volunteer for this
wouldn't you believe that
Reed wants to write
17 letters
to these 17 dead crew people
I mean coincidentally all of them women
all of them X's
he really fucked his way through the lower
decks I need something to do
with this shit come on fair enough
unaccountably like it just
doesn't make sense but
Reed bags the babes
Dear Croomin Taylor's family
My name is Tripp Tucker
And I was not Croomin Taylor's boyfriend
That was Reed
Malcolm Reed
And I just want to say
I never agreed with that relationship
It just didn't seem right to me
On a number of levels
In many ways
She is in a better place
Because she's not dating Malcolm Reed right now
So you can take some small measure of comfort
In the fact that Malcolm Reed
He's not dicking your daughter down.
Enclosed in this package is the dinner napkin we draped over Kroom and Taylor's bounty.
As we do onboard this ship, whenever we cover a corpse.
Oh, that's a reference to our other hit Star Trek podcast, Greatest Trek, isn't it?
Yeah, he doesn't relish this.
He says he doesn't want to do it, like flat out.
Yeah.
I'm barely holding the ship together.
I have time to sit down and ride a lighter.
It doesn't have to be long.
If you don't want to write the dead Kruman Taylor letter, you're right to say it if you're not the right person.
Yeah.
There's something to Paul wants to get out of as well, and that is visiting Dr. Flox.
She is still in the, I guess, recovery period on kicking her trellium habit.
Not totally clear how much of a, like, they didn't have to, like, chain her to a radiator so she wouldn't go score again, right?
like she she went cold turkey all by herself right she's cleared for duty i mean to both please that
booty and and kick the trellium right one thing about her experience that i didn't expect was that
here we are in the third season of star trek enterprise really admiring julian's work as an
actor all you need to do is give a character a drug problem uh if they're a vulcan and all of a sudden
Like, I respect your craft.
Yeah.
Yeah.
I mean, it's a very of its time story arc for a main cast character on, like, I feel like every show had this had this storyline at this time.
But, yeah.
So there's this conversation they have about, like, the feelings are still right up here, Dr.
Flox.
Like, I'm dealing with emotions in a way that I'm just not accustomed to.
and I don't quite know what to do about that.
And he's like, you know, you like burned a lot of new neural pathways
over the three months that you were slamming trail.
And you're going to have to just ride this out.
Like you're the first trellium addict in recorded medical history.
We don't know how long the recovery period is going to last.
Not to blame the addict or anything, but Dr. Floggs is like,
look, when you go for the record on emotions,
things aren't going to work quite right
for a period of time after
and maybe permanently
you might see some swelling
you might have what we call
Kung Fu Grip syndrome
going forward
so watch out for that
once it's out
it's extremely difficult to put it back in
but we're going to be at the
coordinate soon and that's really exciting
but we hit a spatial anomaly
that just seems to happen
whenever they need anything to happen on this show
but we're really like not ready for it this time
you know like this is
this is really outrageous to trip
he's like come on like this is
fucking awful timing for this
what the hell
I'm trying to write a letter
and you cut to him and he's like scribbling
all over the
all over the paper
I gotta start all over
I have one piece of paper left
Now I got to go down to the supply closet.
Come on.
It drops bangers all over Enterprise.
And at this point, Archer's like, fine, fuck.
Like, let's just turn around.
Like, we can't do this.
We could die trying to meet up with Degra.
And what good are we then?
So he almost orders the ship around, but then Degra's ship appears.
And beckons the enterprise to follow with a sort of come hither hail.
Yeah, the Canada arm.
extends from Degra's chip and does a come this way motion and into the cloaking field around a
sphere they go and now they're in orbit of one of those and Degra has his planet eight buddy
from the Zindy Council there and they link up and Archer comes aboard to meet up with them.
Really fun choice that Lovar Burton does here as the director of this episode where like
you see the back of Archer's head and over the top of it are like Degra's cornrows that he has
on the side of his head. Good call back to the Schran episode. Yeah, yeah. It's starting to become
kind of the visual language of this show. Yeah. And it's starting to look like they have built the
beginnings of an anti-reptilian conspiracy here. The Planet Ape guy is like, all right,
Degra is a lot more convinced than I am.
There is some pretty hard-to-swallow talk about time travel and evidence that we're being tricked by our very smooth friend who helped convene the Zindy Council.
Like, I want to show and tell.
I want you to show off your evidence of all of this shit to me.
Speaking of Hard to Swallow, do you want to do something fun for the folks who are watching the stream right now?
Oh, yeah, let's do it.
Let's do an impression of Janar having this conversation.
Ready?
Okay.
Something seems hard to swallow about this so-called evidence.
And part of what makes me sound so weird is like my upper lip doesn't touch my bottom
lips, so I just look like my teeth are out the whole time.
I cannot swallow.
It's just a thing for all members of my species or just me?
And how does somebody who can't keep his teeth inside his mouth
rise to the level in my society that I have?
My job does not involve that of public speaking.
And that's a good thing.
I mostly write the speeches.
Archer is like, yeah, I mean I can show you some stuff,
But like, what assurances do I have that while we're having this hang, there isn't a super weapon showing up at Earth and incinerating it?
And Degrenjanar, like, okay, like, we'll look into, like, delaying the super weapon for several days.
I love this through line that Archer has.
This entire episode is like, yeah, we could have a meeting, but, like, in some far off place, the final wrench turns on the super weapon are taking place.
Like, do we have time to even have this conversation?
Because it's not in the little cradle underwater anymore.
Like, who even fucking knows where it is?
It could be en route for all we know.
Probably is.
So they're like, okay, if we see proof of what you're saying, like, we could probably stop the weapon.
This could all be proven if the Zindy used a Find by Superweaven app and could like just show Archer on the pad where it is.
Yeah.
It's just pointing at the same part of Florida.
Like, it's not going to do any harm for us to do that line one more time.
It's like following a ride share app, like, on the streets and, like, the super weapon is, like, going up some, like, weird.
Yeah.
Like, how is that the way to Earth?
Like, that doesn't even make any sense.
Ooh, I'm pretty sure that's a one-way street, and it's going away from me up a one-way street?
What the hell?
Why is the super weapon spinning?
So to Paul get some dinner with Tripp, who is struggling on the letter to Crumann Taylor's family.
We learn in this scene that he's also not slept in a really long time.
He is all fixed ship and write letter and no take care of himself.
Banger, Tripp and DePaul find a burned up person right after their meal.
And when they try to tend to them, we see an exterior shot.
out of the ship, revealing a sort of pinhole leak in the hull, and that doesn't seem good.
This was the part of the episode that really stuck in my memory, the pinhole leak.
Because as I mentioned, I've reviewed this episode one time before on a different Star Trek
podcast, and I was like, we're like so far into this episode, and I was like, when the hell is the
What the fuck did you just say?
Yeah, I dabbled in.
You son of a bitch.
you know good son of a bitch
I will wear that
proudly
but yeah early in our run
I think we were still on TNG I went on the show
Random Trek hosted by Scott McNulty
and talked about this specific episode
Believe it or not we've had this conversation before
and I was remembering that there was like a
problem where something was coming out of the
of the saucer section they had to go
on the sausage section to fix it.
Yeah, this is that.
First stop in the Zindy Show and Tell is the morgue
where Archer shows those lizardman corpses to Degra and Janar.
Speaking of pinhole leaks, when they wheel out the table,
the drain is just stuffed with like a thicker than you'd think liquid coming out of them.
Yeah, it's very gooey
Janara's like
Did you consider
Just shooting off their tails
And seeing if they grew back
I bet you thought we wouldn't recognize
These two lizard men
But we do
We know this guy
He hasn't been around for a while
You think he was in Detroit
Why there of all Python
I know you think this is sufficient proof
But I still don't believe in
time travel yet. You know, nobody would be able to put a knife cock on me, because you couldn't
fit a gun in this mouth, not with these teeth. Oh, God, oh God. Just apropos of nothing.
Archer takes them to a second location, this being insufficient to prove his point. That second
location being where they store the bio weapon that was used in Detroit, uh, it's okay.
It's inert right now. I can't launch any of the bio weapon.
toxin.
Yeah.
And I love Janara in all these scenes because this does not prove anything more than the last
scene.
This is a device that was with these lizards, Indy, maybe in Detroit.
The Detroit part in the past is the part that we need proof of, Archer.
Yeah.
You're doing it all wrong.
I mean, they're talking about chronotons.
Time travel.
A bit of a stretch.
He also shows them the pictures of the party dude that they found hot box.
boxing his Mark Ive and they're like okay this is a little bit more persuasive like we've only seen one other one of those guys and uh you know she's only ever a hologram kind of person
we cut over to a corridor where Tripp is just clobbering the balls of Kruman rivers over his attention to detail issues with some of the repairs he's having to do
I ran a pressure test.
Tell it to the man lying in six-bay.
Test them again.
All of them.
Aye, sir.
And Kruman Rivers is like, you think this damage is bad.
It's not half as bad as that time I tripped over an EPS conduit and fell into Marilyn Monroe's bosoms.
What?
It's just so random.
It's like not even really a joke.
Like eight, eight-minute chicken.
fight happens in the corridor here.
He bumps into Dr. Flax, who knows about the trip, no sleeping situation from to Paul.
Dr. Flax is this sort of person that intervenes in an argument that's happening in public
between two people.
Like, he just happens to be walking by, this ball clobbering when he pulls trip aside.
Commander, I'm a little busy, Doc.
so it seems
I bet Seth McFarland
was fucking thrilled about that
Big fun
Yeah
They do this haggling
Over the amount of sleep
That Tripp is ordered
To go get
Yeah
Initially it starts at six
And I love how Trivlox's
number should have been higher
You know
You want your initial position
Four is just not enough hours of sleep
Like you'd
I feel like if it started at like 10
or 12
He could have gotten a solid eight hours
Out of Trip
Well my point is
what Tripp's point is, is that the ship could explode if he's sleeping.
And that maybe the minimum amount of sleep is the right amount of sleep to prevent that.
Maybe.
You know, maybe just like pull a cot into engineering so that he can be nearby and they can wake him up.
Like, I was thinking about that in the context of the episode where they had to go through the space casso for four days and it was making flocks go crazy.
Like, it was all pretty quiet around the ship.
Why could Tripp not have slept in engineering?
You know they have the most uncomfortable hospital chair in the entire world, the one that you could sleep in?
Yeah, technically lays flat.
Which is like the worst chair that's ever been made.
Yeah, I've spent a lot of time in that chair around the births of my children.
It's a bad chair.
Are you saying that...
With all of this technology, you have not been able to develop a better chair?
This is the first time I'm meeting humans, so it's very confusing to me.
So we cut to a dream that Tripp Tucker is having, where he goes to Kroom and Taylor's quarters, and he's confronted by her ghost.
Yeah.
And she gives him a bunch of prompts for him to work off of for his letter, which I thought was really considerate.
Tell them how hard I worked.
Tell them how much you liked me.
Adam, did you notice that there was a bronze scuba suit in Trips quarters when he was sleeping?
I did.
Was that part of the dream, or is that something that he really has next to his bed?
I have no idea.
What was that about?
Anyways.
I was hoping you wouldn't see that.
That is what I like to use for breathplay.
I have a kind of steampunk approach to my breath.
So, yeah, he's like, he's like in a hallway and he finds this photograph of Grumann, Taylor,
or maybe is it his sister?
Hard to tell because the glass is all broken around it.
And she's like talking him through how to write this letter.
Like, you think I would have made a great chief engineer one day?
Say that in the letter.
Like, talk about how much I fuck.
You think I was an okay crew person. Say I was a good crew person. If maybe you want to say I was a good crew person, say it was a great person. Give them no place to go. Lead them as far away from the Malcolm Reed issue as you possibly can is what I'm trying to say. Like don't want them asking any questions about what was going on there. As soon as Malcolm Reed's name is spoken, he wakes right up.
Unclear how much sleep he's gotten.
And I sort of wondered if his resistance to sleeping was related to his not sleeping toward the beginning of the season, where he was not sleeping because of how haunted he was by the death of his sister.
And he needed all that neuro pressure to get back right.
He's got grief, insomnia.
Yeah, like, this has just rinse repeated that situation.
Hmm. Yeah. No one gave Tripp Tucker bad news. I think that's the lesson here.
Yeah, but then you start to wonder, like, is this a defense mechanism? Like, does he make no one give him bad news because they know how severely it will affect them?
I'm also suspicious of this. Yeah.
Uh-huh.
Legally, it's just a fart joke.
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Ben would rather die.
On Degra ship, Degra and Jinar are post-gaming the three locations they were taken to by Archer
and the so-called evidence they were shown in these places.
Look, it's not enough for Jinar.
Like, it just isn't.
He needs more proof.
And Degra is like, I'm open-minded enough to go with this.
And not only that, I'm going to go back to Enterprise and see how much more evidence I can find.
And Jinnar, as Degra goes, is like, hey,
Try not to forget about our genocide plan.
Stay on Team Genocide.
So Degra finds himself in the command center
where Tepal and Trip are showing him the map of the spheres that they made
and are like trying to undelete from the computer.
It's a little bit messed up and glitchy on the screen,
but this is part of how they're going to try and convince Degra
that the spheres are part of,
the plot to terraform this region of space right by the transdimensional beings that convinced
him to to build the super weapon in the first place so important that he believe what they
are telling him right here but trip is a little bit hyper fixated on the destruction of florida
and people being vaporized there and kind of lays into degris in a way that is
It's like, yeah, man, I mean, righteous and you're absolutely correct,
but maybe not the right time or place for that particular acts to be ground.
I've had 20 minutes of sleep.
My logic is flawless.
You can't argue with me.
He is going off on Degra, and Tepal is trying to calm him down when Archer shows up.
Archer shows up like a teacher on the playground during recess who can tell that two kids in front of him have just been fighting,
or like about to throw punches.
Yeah.
How are the repairs coming?
Just need a few more minutes, Captain.
Archer invites DeGra to the clarinet rental closet
and the second they leave,
DePaul's like,
Tripp, what the fuck, man?
Archer is trying to build trust with this guy.
It's a fucking delicate situation.
And you're going off on him.
Hey, buddy, you need a back rub?
That's kind of my specialty.
I might be going through the DTs at the moment, but even I am managing to hold it together.
Do you want me to dump out these nasty tootsies for you, Tripp? Would that make you feel a little bit better?
Meanwhile, as we have seen several times already this episode, what was once a leak on the hull of the ship has turned into a full-on rupture of plasma.
And in order to repair this hole, they're going to have to go outside to do it.
and Tripp Tucker and Reed are just the two to do it.
If only this had happened a little bit quicker, a little bit earlier,
Tripp wouldn't have put his foot in his mouth in front of Degra.
Yeah.
Because he would have been out on the hull with Reed.
Yeah, bad timing.
This is one of those Trip on the Hull scenes
where you've got to get the panels open
and turn the knobs and crank the cranks.
And Reed can't get his panel open.
he's complaining about this to Trip
who does not give any fucks
he's like solve your own fucking problems
I got my own panel to deal with
I was delighted by the moment
we were told about the six minute deadline
being while they were out on the saucer
doing the repair
I had no idea the situation was
as urgent as it was
I mean I know it was urgent
the ship is venting plasma
but like I didn't think
they were six minutes from death
yeah
hoshi gets a couple of lines in this episode
she gets to talk about how
Reed is overheating in his suit.
Ben, I think we actually have time to play every line of dialogue.
Hoshi has this episode.
You ready?
Okay, let's do that right now.
Scanning all frequencies.
Nothing so far.
We're receiving a transmission.
It's Degra.
He's telling us to follow him.
They're hailing us.
Captain.
The temperature in Lieutenant Reed's suit is over 44 degrees.
46 degrees.
Captain, Degra's hailing us.
Wow.
Okay, I barely was able to take a sip of water, but I got back on Mike.
Let's hear it for Linda Park. That's a wrap on Linda Park for the episode.
Yeah, he gets a little too toasty in his EV suit, and he ignores orders to get back inside and heroically gets the panel off and, you know, turns the knob or whatever.
Reed sacrifices his health and safety for that of the cruise, Ben, and I just have to ask you.
as far as Reed stock goes,
higher, lower, or unchanged, based on this?
I think it's a little bit higher.
Like, I think this is a good moment for Reed, you know?
I'm just disappointed he didn't die.
Yeah.
This would have been a good moment in the season
to take out one of our main cast characters.
And, like, with stakes this high,
like I feel like a modern television show
would take out a main cast character at this point.
I mean, there's so many close-up shots of the panel
that the visual language of that often means that panel is going to explode
and then wing your character into a flaming plasma geyser
and shoot him into space.
Yeah.
It would have been epic.
Yeah.
He wouldn't have even had time to write the letters.
And then Tripp has to write the other 17?
Oh, man.
My hands got a cramp.
I got a way to write that one.
God damn it, I got as many letters to write as I have nipples.
You're never going to let that go, are you?
My hands are all cramping.
from all the letter writing and the breath play, but mostly the breath play.
Guilty-ass charged.
It feels like a great success until it's not, because once Reed and Tripp get back inside Enterprise,
Reed is unconscious.
And in the changing room, after they take Reed out of there, for some reason, Degra is there
with Archer, and that is just wrong place, wrong time for Degra.
Degra, maybe keep your hope for Reed's condition to yourself, given what a live wire Tripp Tucker is.
He is really in no mood, and he rips into DeGra for being a seven millionaire, for the body count that he has, and for, you know, feigning concern about one more human life.
We just got to get these two guys apart.
We can't have them in the same room anymore.
I got to put this on Archer.
you just can't do this
No, like you were already
standing in the back of the classroom. You saw that
these two students are
at Degrogerheads.
Good one.
In the command center
Degra is shown the
Information Enterprise had gathered about
the spheres. That's all cleared up now.
It's unscrambled.
And it's a real sphere counting contest
between Degra and Archer in this scene.
A contest that Degra wins
because the Zindia have counted
It's 78 of them.
And that is a real surprise to Archer who thought it was a 59-sphere situation that they were dealing with.
Archer, on his back heel, also apologizes for what a bitch Tripp Tucker has been about the whole mass murder thing.
Like, he's usually cool.
Like, any other circumstance, if you guys met, I think you guys would be total bros.
But, yeah, he's just real touchy about that right now.
The thing about Tripp Tucker's family is, like, one sister is just a total fucking bitch.
And if that had been the one that had been killed, like, I think things would be very different.
But, like, the good sister that he liked got killed, and that just changes everything, Degr.
You got to know this about him and his sisters.
They're talking about the, like, trust-building exercise that they've been undertaking over the last few hours.
And Degro makes a joke about how like, you know, like, if you hadn't tricked me and wiped my memory that one time, I might be trusting you even more.
Who knows?
It's so weird why I don't feel comfortable dating you after the whole Roofie situation.
We went through on our first date.
Yeah.
But Archer is able to turn things around in this moment.
It feels very precarious, but suddenly...
Degras, you got to trust me.
now things are different with the spheres we've been flying through sphere pudding for the last
two days and you're not going to like being inside of it
Archer whips out scans from inside a sphere which Degra has never seen before
and this is very valuable information and Degra's like how the fuck did you even get scans
like this with your warship and Archer's like
That's just it, man.
This ain't a warship.
And Degro's like, you mean like in a porno way?
And he's like, no, no, no.
I mean, like, it's just like a, it's like an exploration vessel.
Was your reference a this ain't no warship type of movie title?
Yeah.
Okay.
Yeah.
That's fun.
Like as in This Ain't the Cosby's or This Ain't Cheers.
Yeah.
Yeah.
Have you ever seen This Ain't Cheers?
I don't want to see This Ain't Cheers.
I've seen a little bit of it.
what's amazing is that they built the bar from Cheers
like a perfect replica of it
so that they could shoot people having sex in it.
It surprises me very little that you've seen Cheers Porn.
The George Went looking porno star enters the bar.
Have it in, everybody?
Everyone yells, Mone!
If we change the words,
then it's fair use of us.
all day long.
So cut to Trip Tucker
recording his letter to Kruman
Taylor, and after a false
start, the second draft,
oh my God, he's
getting it. It's starting to sound
pretty good. Until, God
damn it, Reed, interrupts with
a tactical alert.
Oh, that was going to be it.
That was going to be it, but this reptilian
ship has entered the cloaking barrier.
God, the Zindies suck.
They ruin everything for Tripp.
The Ritalians call up Degra's ship at the Planet Ape guy's like,
Oh, yeah, no, uh, yeah, what are you doing here?
Nothing important that you guys shouldn't worry about us at all.
Degra residents, this is Jadar.
Degra can't come to the phone right now.
G'd I'm speaking.
And then he facetimes over to Degra, who's on the Entrepreneurs Bridge,
and is like, yeah, man, like they're going to start shooting.
They're pretty pissed.
And Degra's like, like, stall them, stall them.
And Archer's like, come on, man, you got to help us, like, fight these guys off.
And Degra's like, those are my boys out there.
Like, they definitely caught me doing some stuff I'm not supposed to do.
But, like, I'm not going to help you get them.
Like, there's no way.
Those are Zindy.
We don't know whether Degra gives Archer exploitable information at this point.
because we cut to Degra's ship undocking from Enterprise
after being ordered to dock with the reptiles into ship.
And on Enterprise, I love this moment.
Almost a minute goes by where we're like, will he, won't he?
Is Enterprise going to shoot first?
No, it's Degra's ship that shoots first.
They sucker punch this reptilian ship,
and then the entrepreneur starts letting go torpedoes and phasers,
and they pretty quickly disable this reptilian ship
and there it is like listing in space
and then Degra fucks around and destroys it
and he explains to Archer like
couldn't risk them getting back to the council
with what's going on here
don't like what happened today
but that was the way it had to go
Degra doesn't hesitate
he's rock and roll
once it became a manslaughter
one beef he went ahead and took out the whole ship what difference does it make yeah janar heard it
mostly to paul runs into trip in a hallway and trip has a giant box of portable zindi power cells
a little gift from dagra and he's still so pissed off about this letter that he has to write
they have a little conversation and it's revealed that the thing that has been making it such a
high bar to clear for him is that he's really been trying to think of his sister as just another
victim of the attack on Florida and not a personal loss.
Even though I hated my other sister much more, I should still think of them as equal
in siblings to me.
They're both members of my family, and part of this is the guilt of wishing it was the other
one, and part of this is that Truman Taylor just kind of looked a lot like the other one,
and it's like, I kind of wish it.
I just, I'm forced to confront that I really wish it
that that horrible wench had died.
Connor Trudeer does two things as Tripp here.
By kicking over the power cells,
he does the, the like, first level of emotions
that TV actors get to do most of the time,
the physical outburst that shows that they're hurting.
But then he falls into this really,
emotional display of grief that, like, I think represents maybe the best acting that
Connor Traneer has done on the series. I thought he was excellent in this moment.
Yeah, it's definitely like some of the most vulnerable moments I can think of. And it's interesting
given the context of what Topal's been going through lately because she's like, he's saying like,
God, I wish I, like, didn't have these feelings the way you don't.
And she either lies to him a little bit about not having those feelings or is telling the truth and is, like, getting in more control of what she's going through emotionally.
Because she says, in many ways, I envy the fact that you're, like, experiencing real grief in this moment.
It's such a great choice because she doesn't say the thing.
She just describes the thing.
And I think a worse episode of television would have had to Paul admit her addiction in this scene as a way to exchange grief currency or experience currency.
Yeah.
And I'm glad that doesn't happen here because that's a weakness some friends have in situations where one friend is struggling.
Like let's just talk about the one thing without having to draw an equivalency.
Totally.
So with this exchange, having been done in an elegant and artful way, we cut over to Degra and Archer, where DeGra has decided to invite Archer to meet him in front of the Zindy Council, where Archer can lawyer Archer his case.
And that's going to happen in three days.
And Archer's like, yo, yo, yo, but like, what about the weapon?
Like, we still don't have status on the weapon.
You haven't find my super weapon yet.
And Degra's like, okay, like, I will do everything I can to delay it.
Which doesn't sound like a promise.
It sounds like I'll see what I can do.
It really demonstrates the asymmetry of trust between these two characters.
Like, Archer really trusts him that he's telling the truth,
even though in many ways Archer has wronged Degra big time.
Yeah.
I think it's a trust.
necessity because they're both of their species stand to be destroyed if they're wrong.
Right.
So Degra's like, all right, here's how you get there.
You got to go through this nebular.
Fair warning, there is a hostile species that will try to kill you on your way.
But I'll catch you in a, you know, half of a week.
Degra looks at the completely busted-ass jalopy that enterprises become.
And he's like, good luck with that.
Final scene of the episode is Tripp laying down an absolute banger of a consolation letter.
If you're bereaved parents, this is the fucking letter you want.
It tells you a lot about crewman Taylor.
It tells you a lot about Trip Tucker.
It tells you a lot about the crew of the ship that your daughter has served on in a really interesting way.
It's vivid and good and personal.
And Reed didn't write it.
Maybe best of all.
Yeah, there's not a drip of horniness in this letter the way there could have been so easily.
Dear Krumann Taylor's parents, I do regret I was unable to know your daughter better.
Biblically.
And then it is revealed as the camera swings around that the thing Trip was holding this whole time while he was recording this letter.
It's not a picture of Kruman.
Taylor, but it was a picture of his sister.
So I guess he said goodbye to her.
The good one.
The frame says like, favorite sister, number one sister.
Best sister in the universe.
She's also wearing a number one sister t-shirt in the picture.
Holding a foam finger.
Yeah.
And then in the background is the sister that didn't die wearing a bullshit other
sister t-shirt?
The good sister's wearing a shirt with an arrow, and the words on the shirt says,
My sister is a total C.
And then in parentheses under, not in the Australian sense.
Did you like this episode of Star Trek Enterprise, Adam?
I can't pay.
Could for late.
Got no king.
I really did because it helped me know TripTucker a little better, and it came so close to killing Reed.
I think those two things are qualities and episodes I really like.
How interesting has DeGRA become?
Those first couple episodes, he was a fucking zero as a bad guy.
And just how complicated the relationship is between he and Archer, I think, does a lot to make him interesting.
The one thing that you must remember about the asymmetry between Degra and Archer is that, like, there is no downside to waiting for Degra.
The weapon is built.
It can be deployed at any time.
They have the benefit of time on the Zindi side.
And so I feel like he can luxuriate in this little side quest to get proof sufficient for Jinar and be just fine.
I think the pressure is way more on Archer here.
Yeah.
And that just makes it interesting with every interaction that they have.
I also love one detail I really want to call attention to, I don't think we have.
Everyone is dirty this episode.
Like, no one has changed their uniform.
Tripp Tucker sleeps in a dirty uniform.
Like, everyone's looking haggard in a way that really works.
I don't even have time to change into my old-timey scuba outfit that I normally sleep in.
if you were given me four hours to go take a nap
I'm using five minutes to take a shower
I'll tell you that much
what about you Ben
yeah I'm curious to go back and relisten to
that other time I've reviewed this one
because I really liked it
yeah listen to yourself doing it with some other
co-host Ben
so yeah that makes you feel
I wonder if picking it out of thin air
the way it works on that show
without all the context of the season that preceded it
Would I have liked it?
And I'm thinking maybe I didn't like it very much on that episode.
And I have to say, it felt really strong and earned and good to me.
Yeah, good up.
Got to say Croomin Rivers reminds me of someone or a time that something happened.
I can't quite remember which, though.
Got to remember to go check Priority One Messages, Ben.
I want to see what's over there?
We got to.
Priority One message from Starfleet coming in on Secured Channel.
You need a supplemental income.
Supplement.
Supplement.
Supplement.
Yeah, it's extra.
The interest alone could be enough to buy this ship.
Got a promotional P-1 here.
Goes like this.
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Morese?
Oralians in general?
Prefer your aliens with more snout and less loaf?
I know there are other Trek furries out there.
And what this P-1 presupposes is,
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maybe you'll like hanging out with a demon goat at Twitch.tv slash brinth out of hell.
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Yeah, so Brinth out of hell.
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Furies, Ben.
Furies are in our F-O-D community.
I've long suspected this.
Yes.
They appreciate Kraft and, uh, what is the, what's the, a demon goat?
I mean, I think I've primarily seen, like, wolf and,
And fox-based furries in my limited experience, demon goat sounds like a really fun kind of furry.
I wonder what it's like to be part of the motorcycle club that has the really exotic bike.
And that seems like what demon goat is in a group full of fox slash, what was the other one you said?
Oh, yeah, like wolves and foxes.
If you're a wolf or a fox, it's probably really crazy to see a demon goat come through.
Like, got to fuck that guy.
Right?
What's that all about?
Yeah, that seems like the table stakes there.
Yeah, Brinth out of hell on Twitch.tv.
Yeah, follow up and let us know if you get the greatest gen bump for this one, Brent.
Got a priority one message here from Ian, he who just caught up.
And it is to Ian.
Whoa.
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Hey, Adam.
What?
Did you find yourself a drunk Shimoda?
Incredible.
Drunk Shimoda!
Is anything going to convince Gennar at this point?
Or is he just being obstinate?
I kind of feel like he's being obstinate here.
I kind of feel like I am teamed genocide until I'm not,
and nothing is really feeling like a persuasive argument against genocide at this point.
The burden of proof is on time travel.
So, yeah, Gennar for me.
Yeah.
I got to go with Tripp.
Who has a old-timey scuba suit in space, of all things to take in your quarters?
People were really paring shit down before this mission.
Yeah.
We got to, like, bring only what you need to survive.
Well, I need my scuba suit.
Captain, how else did you think I earned the nickname
scuba suit Tucker
Faith of the Fart
Let's talk a little bit about
what we got coming up next Adam
While you figure out what we watch
For the next episode
I'll head over to gachdbiz slash game
Where the Game of Buttholes
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Next episode will be season three
Episode 21E squared
An attempt to use
A Zindy subspace corridor
leads the Enterprise crew
to a bizarre encounter
with their own descendants.
Oh, boy.
I got a vasectomy many years ago.
This is very surprising.
I don't remember coming across any silver goo people.
What's going on here?
Oh, this sounds like a fun one, Ben.
A fun episode to maybe do in a special way.
Let's find out how we do that.
Is that the hostile aliens in the nebula
that DeGro was warning them about?
They don't sound so hostile.
They sound chill, right?
Yeah, yeah.
All right, I got to roll some bones
to find out how we will be
experiencing this one, Adam.
Right now, our runabout is on square 44
of the game of buttholes,
and we could go anywhere,
so let's see what happens.
You're required to learn as you play.
Roll.
Oh, boy, Adam.
After a couple of narrow misses, we have landed once again on square 96.
Next week, we will be doing an episode that employs many vori tellings.
It's a Brone zone.
I take you you in charge here.
Team leader, Brown, fourth-bore defense contingent.
I got to get a pop.
That's it.
Get it.
I kind of wish at this point it was the breadstick episode.
I'm running out of Bori language usages here, but let's see what we got.
It could be fun.
It could be totally fucking annoying, but only one way to find out, Adam, is to fucking do it.
Let's do it.
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an episode of the Great Generation Enterprise, where we meet our descendants also, and they're just all my descendants.
that'd be really funny
if they roll up on the descendants
and it's like
all of them are the children
of reeds
father
I'm so happy to see you
it's a bit challenging
running a ship when it's all tactical officers
but we muddle through somehow
would it surprise you to know
that on a ship full of tactical officers
we have never once hit the target
Not surprising
It's all?
Oh.
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