The Greatest Generation - There Are Four Pipes! (ENT S3E20)

Episode Date: September 22, 2025

When Archer is pushing hard to meet Degra on time, Trip struggles with his grief as repairs continue on the Entrepreneur. But after Jannar asks for more proof and Degra blows up a reptilian ship, Arch...er gets invited to speak to the council if he can make it through the nebula in one piece. In what specific way is Crewman Taylor in a better place? Which hobby does Trip use the bronze scuba suit for? What’s the amazing thing about This Ain’t Cheers? It’s the episode that could have epically killed off a main character.Support the production of The Greatest GenerationGet a thing at podshop.biz!Sign up for our mailing list!Follow The Game of Buttholes: The Will of the Riker - Quantum LeapThe Greatest Generation is produced by Wynde PriddySocial media is managed by Rob Adler and Bill TilleyMusic by Adam Ragusea & Dark MateriaFriends of DeSoto for: Labor | Democracy | JusticeDiscuss the show using the hashtag #GreatestGen and find us on social media:YouTube | Facebook | X | Instagram | TikTok | Mastodon | Bluesky | ThreadsAnd check out these online communities run by FODs: Reddit | USS Hood Discord | Facebook group | Wikia | FriendsOfDeSoto.social

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Starting point is 00:00:00 Here's to the finest crew in starving. When it comes to my crew, you won't get any argument for me. This is a parody. Paramount owns the song. Welcome to the greatest generation. It's a Star Trek podcast by a couple of guys who are just a little bit embarrassed about having a Star Trek podcast. I'm Ben Harrison. I'm Adam Pranika.
Starting point is 00:00:25 You really bill-mired that word in the open. Oh, man. Ben, wouldn't you say you're a little bit embarrassed to have a Star Trek podcast? Blah, blah, blah, blah. That is what he says a lot of the time. New rule. Blah, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah. Blah, blah, blah.
Starting point is 00:00:46 I'm leaving for Vegas in the morning. Yeah. For the fifth and final time maybe in my life. You say that every time you go. head's a little scrambly. Yeah. As a result. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:01:02 Are you one bagging at this time? Oh, you know it. Yeah. Best way to fly. Going out of Burbank? No. Whoa. Okay.
Starting point is 00:01:10 Not doing the Burr. I'm doing that thing where my wife is out of town for work and I'm dropping a car off for her to pick up because she's landing an hour or so after I take off. So. You're going to ships in the night at again. Very elegant maneuver there with the parking. This happened the last time you went to Vegas. Yeah, we're getting good at it. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:01:32 Wow. Why don't you tell me what I should do in Vegas? What's your favorite thing to do in Vegas? And then maybe I can try to do it. Hmm. I mean, I do. I feel like we've done a lot of my favorite things to do in Vegas together. Besides buying a teaky glass and smashing it.
Starting point is 00:01:52 Like, what's your second favorite thing? One thing that I've found is a nice thing about Vegas is some of the hotels have moved. have movie theaters right there inside of them. And I would say in the last three years, I've seen more movies in Vegas than I have seen in theaters in Los Angeles or maybe an equal number. Wow. Because I'll be in Vegas and I'll just be like, well, there's a fucking movie theater downstairs. I'll just go see a movie and nothing can stop me.
Starting point is 00:02:22 Ben, I went to see a movie in a theater today. I'm shocked by this. Did you see a movie during Star Trek, Las Vegas? This year, I didn't, but, you know, it was a different year. We were manning the booth so much. Usually, usually I do. Like, last year at STLV, I saw three movies. Crazy.
Starting point is 00:02:43 Saw Twisters. I saw, what was that horrible movie? Wolverine meets Deadpool, something like that. Yeah, I saw a lot of movies. I like Twisters a lot, good movie theater movie. Twisters was a great movie theater movie, yeah. You know, we're always there during something. or so there's some blockbustery scale stuff out usually when I'm in town.
Starting point is 00:03:03 An off-strip sojourn, like to the pinball museum or something like that is always a fun little diversion. But you're going to play poker, man. Like you're going for the reason they built that town. Yeah, I'm going for a steak and a gamble. That's going to be my couple of days there. It's going to be great. Betts, bets, bets. Best of luck.
Starting point is 00:03:27 Yeah. I hope you take all of their roles, as a fellow says. I'll do my best. I'll follow up on the next episode. You'll have to remember to ask me. Wow. I will not remember, but yeah, I'm excited for you. You know why, Adam?
Starting point is 00:03:45 That will be one of the many forgotten things in my life. See, I threw you the reference underhanded and I thought you'd missed it. But no, you didn't miss it. I had to go back for it. What you did was you swung the bat and, And then the bat hit the ball on the other side. On the come around? Yeah.
Starting point is 00:04:05 Yeah, clumsy. You know, I'm clumsy on the best of days. This isn't even the best of days. Very rom in Take Me Out to the Hollow Suite. Was that pivot to episode, Ben. Let's get into one that's bright and shiny and fun. Star Trek Enterprise Season 3, Episode 20. It's called The Forgotten.
Starting point is 00:04:28 And guitar So we've got that very fucked-up entrepreneur at Warp. We got tin-canned a little bit last time on. And because of the feeling of being way, way down in the final quarter, we get Archer addressing the troops. And this happens in the shuttle bay so that he can be up on the second level, yelling down at everybody like an emperor. enterprise is a tough ship it's a stirring speech about how we're still in this fight
Starting point is 00:05:03 and we're still going to do everything we can to keep the earth from being blown up in the nuclear hellfire that the Zindy mean to visit on it but we also got to set aside some time to remember the dead 18 people have died so far on this mission the way you said that
Starting point is 00:05:21 is what makes me so upset if we have some time let's talk about the dead then let's presume that you have some sort of consciousness after death if i'm one of the 18 i am so fucking pissed do not use what should be a eulogy about me to talk about this other thing the ship sacrificing itself as if the ship that the ship is better than me who actually died as a sacrifice i feel like i would be like don't talk about any of it get back to fucking work Like, don't make me have died in vain so that you can make your big
Starting point is 00:06:00 grand eloquent speech. I want you to take it to them Zindis. I want my own time. I want my own memorial. I don't want to share it with 17 people in a ship. I don't want to, like, be wondering how much of each pipe
Starting point is 00:06:18 on the bagpipe is allotted to me. I want all the pipes. I'm going to put you right on the spot here, man. And I know, I know you'll do it. Hey, hands up off of the keyboard. Let me see them. How many pipes are on a bagpipe? Three? Are there, oh, well, plus the mouth pipe, right? That counts as a pipe. Does that a pipe? So I'm going to say four, four total. I'm looking it up now. Your hands are still up. Is there a standard? Is there like a base bagpipe that's got like one massive pipe?
Starting point is 00:06:49 Hey, Ben, you're going to love this. You're going to love this. You ready? Okay. There are four pipes. Yeah, this is a Star Trek podcast, motherfucker. All right, that's been our show. Thanks a lot for supporting maximum fund.org, let's join. We have a conversation between Tripp and to Paul and Archer, more conversation about all the dead people,
Starting point is 00:07:18 and also the weapons, which, are weapons are back like the ship is very fucked up there's there's a lot wrong with the ship and Tripp is like kind of advocating for like maybe before we go meet up with your boy DeGra Archer we stop and patch
Starting point is 00:07:36 things up a little bit like tighten some of these screws lick our wounds before we try to like run into what is almost certainly a trap to finally destroy our ship it's the hierarchy of priorities though meeting with DeGra in 10
Starting point is 00:07:52 hours is the thing that supersedes all of it. Like, no matter what, we got to make this meeting. You can do whatever you want in the next 10 hours, Tripp. Yeah. This is when Archer gives Tripp a mission that he is not relishing, which is write a letter to the family of a woman that worked in your crew. Like, one of the engineers is dead. I guess Archer will write the other 17 letters, but Tripp has to write one of them. Archer's like, I already. put another crew person on the other 17 letters and God I could not get him to not volunteer for this
Starting point is 00:08:28 wouldn't you believe that Reed wants to write 17 letters to these 17 dead crew people I mean coincidentally all of them women all of them X's he really fucked his way through the lower decks I need something to do
Starting point is 00:08:44 with this shit come on fair enough unaccountably like it just doesn't make sense but Reed bags the babes Dear Croomin Taylor's family My name is Tripp Tucker And I was not Croomin Taylor's boyfriend That was Reed
Starting point is 00:09:02 Malcolm Reed And I just want to say I never agreed with that relationship It just didn't seem right to me On a number of levels In many ways She is in a better place Because she's not dating Malcolm Reed right now
Starting point is 00:09:15 So you can take some small measure of comfort In the fact that Malcolm Reed He's not dicking your daughter down. Enclosed in this package is the dinner napkin we draped over Kroom and Taylor's bounty. As we do onboard this ship, whenever we cover a corpse. Oh, that's a reference to our other hit Star Trek podcast, Greatest Trek, isn't it? Yeah, he doesn't relish this. He says he doesn't want to do it, like flat out.
Starting point is 00:09:45 Yeah. I'm barely holding the ship together. I have time to sit down and ride a lighter. It doesn't have to be long. If you don't want to write the dead Kruman Taylor letter, you're right to say it if you're not the right person. Yeah. There's something to Paul wants to get out of as well, and that is visiting Dr. Flox. She is still in the, I guess, recovery period on kicking her trellium habit.
Starting point is 00:10:11 Not totally clear how much of a, like, they didn't have to, like, chain her to a radiator so she wouldn't go score again, right? like she she went cold turkey all by herself right she's cleared for duty i mean to both please that booty and and kick the trellium right one thing about her experience that i didn't expect was that here we are in the third season of star trek enterprise really admiring julian's work as an actor all you need to do is give a character a drug problem uh if they're a vulcan and all of a sudden Like, I respect your craft. Yeah. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:10:51 I mean, it's a very of its time story arc for a main cast character on, like, I feel like every show had this had this storyline at this time. But, yeah. So there's this conversation they have about, like, the feelings are still right up here, Dr. Flox. Like, I'm dealing with emotions in a way that I'm just not accustomed to. and I don't quite know what to do about that. And he's like, you know, you like burned a lot of new neural pathways over the three months that you were slamming trail.
Starting point is 00:11:28 And you're going to have to just ride this out. Like you're the first trellium addict in recorded medical history. We don't know how long the recovery period is going to last. Not to blame the addict or anything, but Dr. Floggs is like, look, when you go for the record on emotions, things aren't going to work quite right for a period of time after and maybe permanently
Starting point is 00:11:53 you might see some swelling you might have what we call Kung Fu Grip syndrome going forward so watch out for that once it's out it's extremely difficult to put it back in but we're going to be at the
Starting point is 00:12:07 coordinate soon and that's really exciting but we hit a spatial anomaly that just seems to happen whenever they need anything to happen on this show but we're really like not ready for it this time you know like this is this is really outrageous to trip he's like come on like this is
Starting point is 00:12:28 fucking awful timing for this what the hell I'm trying to write a letter and you cut to him and he's like scribbling all over the all over the paper I gotta start all over I have one piece of paper left
Starting point is 00:12:45 Now I got to go down to the supply closet. Come on. It drops bangers all over Enterprise. And at this point, Archer's like, fine, fuck. Like, let's just turn around. Like, we can't do this. We could die trying to meet up with Degra. And what good are we then?
Starting point is 00:13:03 So he almost orders the ship around, but then Degra's ship appears. And beckons the enterprise to follow with a sort of come hither hail. Yeah, the Canada arm. extends from Degra's chip and does a come this way motion and into the cloaking field around a sphere they go and now they're in orbit of one of those and Degra has his planet eight buddy from the Zindy Council there and they link up and Archer comes aboard to meet up with them. Really fun choice that Lovar Burton does here as the director of this episode where like you see the back of Archer's head and over the top of it are like Degra's cornrows that he has
Starting point is 00:13:50 on the side of his head. Good call back to the Schran episode. Yeah, yeah. It's starting to become kind of the visual language of this show. Yeah. And it's starting to look like they have built the beginnings of an anti-reptilian conspiracy here. The Planet Ape guy is like, all right, Degra is a lot more convinced than I am. There is some pretty hard-to-swallow talk about time travel and evidence that we're being tricked by our very smooth friend who helped convene the Zindy Council. Like, I want to show and tell. I want you to show off your evidence of all of this shit to me. Speaking of Hard to Swallow, do you want to do something fun for the folks who are watching the stream right now?
Starting point is 00:14:36 Oh, yeah, let's do it. Let's do an impression of Janar having this conversation. Ready? Okay. Something seems hard to swallow about this so-called evidence. And part of what makes me sound so weird is like my upper lip doesn't touch my bottom lips, so I just look like my teeth are out the whole time. I cannot swallow.
Starting point is 00:15:00 It's just a thing for all members of my species or just me? And how does somebody who can't keep his teeth inside his mouth rise to the level in my society that I have? My job does not involve that of public speaking. And that's a good thing. I mostly write the speeches. Archer is like, yeah, I mean I can show you some stuff, But like, what assurances do I have that while we're having this hang, there isn't a super weapon showing up at Earth and incinerating it?
Starting point is 00:15:42 And Degrenjanar, like, okay, like, we'll look into, like, delaying the super weapon for several days. I love this through line that Archer has. This entire episode is like, yeah, we could have a meeting, but, like, in some far off place, the final wrench turns on the super weapon are taking place. Like, do we have time to even have this conversation? Because it's not in the little cradle underwater anymore. Like, who even fucking knows where it is? It could be en route for all we know. Probably is.
Starting point is 00:16:12 So they're like, okay, if we see proof of what you're saying, like, we could probably stop the weapon. This could all be proven if the Zindy used a Find by Superweaven app and could like just show Archer on the pad where it is. Yeah. It's just pointing at the same part of Florida. Like, it's not going to do any harm for us to do that line one more time. It's like following a ride share app, like, on the streets and, like, the super weapon is, like, going up some, like, weird. Yeah. Like, how is that the way to Earth?
Starting point is 00:16:48 Like, that doesn't even make any sense. Ooh, I'm pretty sure that's a one-way street, and it's going away from me up a one-way street? What the hell? Why is the super weapon spinning? So to Paul get some dinner with Tripp, who is struggling on the letter to Crumann Taylor's family. We learn in this scene that he's also not slept in a really long time. He is all fixed ship and write letter and no take care of himself. Banger, Tripp and DePaul find a burned up person right after their meal.
Starting point is 00:17:23 And when they try to tend to them, we see an exterior shot. out of the ship, revealing a sort of pinhole leak in the hull, and that doesn't seem good. This was the part of the episode that really stuck in my memory, the pinhole leak. Because as I mentioned, I've reviewed this episode one time before on a different Star Trek podcast, and I was like, we're like so far into this episode, and I was like, when the hell is the What the fuck did you just say? Yeah, I dabbled in. You son of a bitch.
Starting point is 00:17:55 you know good son of a bitch I will wear that proudly but yeah early in our run I think we were still on TNG I went on the show Random Trek hosted by Scott McNulty and talked about this specific episode Believe it or not we've had this conversation before
Starting point is 00:18:18 and I was remembering that there was like a problem where something was coming out of the of the saucer section they had to go on the sausage section to fix it. Yeah, this is that. First stop in the Zindy Show and Tell is the morgue where Archer shows those lizardman corpses to Degra and Janar. Speaking of pinhole leaks, when they wheel out the table,
Starting point is 00:18:45 the drain is just stuffed with like a thicker than you'd think liquid coming out of them. Yeah, it's very gooey Janara's like Did you consider Just shooting off their tails And seeing if they grew back I bet you thought we wouldn't recognize These two lizard men
Starting point is 00:19:09 But we do We know this guy He hasn't been around for a while You think he was in Detroit Why there of all Python I know you think this is sufficient proof But I still don't believe in time travel yet. You know, nobody would be able to put a knife cock on me, because you couldn't
Starting point is 00:19:29 fit a gun in this mouth, not with these teeth. Oh, God, oh God. Just apropos of nothing. Archer takes them to a second location, this being insufficient to prove his point. That second location being where they store the bio weapon that was used in Detroit, uh, it's okay. It's inert right now. I can't launch any of the bio weapon. toxin. Yeah. And I love Janara in all these scenes because this does not prove anything more than the last scene.
Starting point is 00:20:02 This is a device that was with these lizards, Indy, maybe in Detroit. The Detroit part in the past is the part that we need proof of, Archer. Yeah. You're doing it all wrong. I mean, they're talking about chronotons. Time travel. A bit of a stretch. He also shows them the pictures of the party dude that they found hot box.
Starting point is 00:20:24 boxing his Mark Ive and they're like okay this is a little bit more persuasive like we've only seen one other one of those guys and uh you know she's only ever a hologram kind of person we cut over to a corridor where Tripp is just clobbering the balls of Kruman rivers over his attention to detail issues with some of the repairs he's having to do I ran a pressure test. Tell it to the man lying in six-bay. Test them again. All of them. Aye, sir. And Kruman Rivers is like, you think this damage is bad.
Starting point is 00:21:05 It's not half as bad as that time I tripped over an EPS conduit and fell into Marilyn Monroe's bosoms. What? It's just so random. It's like not even really a joke. Like eight, eight-minute chicken. fight happens in the corridor here. He bumps into Dr. Flax, who knows about the trip, no sleeping situation from to Paul. Dr. Flax is this sort of person that intervenes in an argument that's happening in public
Starting point is 00:21:42 between two people. Like, he just happens to be walking by, this ball clobbering when he pulls trip aside. Commander, I'm a little busy, Doc. so it seems I bet Seth McFarland was fucking thrilled about that Big fun Yeah
Starting point is 00:21:57 They do this haggling Over the amount of sleep That Tripp is ordered To go get Yeah Initially it starts at six And I love how Trivlox's number should have been higher
Starting point is 00:22:08 You know You want your initial position Four is just not enough hours of sleep Like you'd I feel like if it started at like 10 or 12 He could have gotten a solid eight hours Out of Trip
Starting point is 00:22:19 Well my point is what Tripp's point is, is that the ship could explode if he's sleeping. And that maybe the minimum amount of sleep is the right amount of sleep to prevent that. Maybe. You know, maybe just like pull a cot into engineering so that he can be nearby and they can wake him up. Like, I was thinking about that in the context of the episode where they had to go through the space casso for four days and it was making flocks go crazy. Like, it was all pretty quiet around the ship. Why could Tripp not have slept in engineering?
Starting point is 00:22:54 You know they have the most uncomfortable hospital chair in the entire world, the one that you could sleep in? Yeah, technically lays flat. Which is like the worst chair that's ever been made. Yeah, I've spent a lot of time in that chair around the births of my children. It's a bad chair. Are you saying that... With all of this technology, you have not been able to develop a better chair? This is the first time I'm meeting humans, so it's very confusing to me.
Starting point is 00:23:26 So we cut to a dream that Tripp Tucker is having, where he goes to Kroom and Taylor's quarters, and he's confronted by her ghost. Yeah. And she gives him a bunch of prompts for him to work off of for his letter, which I thought was really considerate. Tell them how hard I worked. Tell them how much you liked me. Adam, did you notice that there was a bronze scuba suit in Trips quarters when he was sleeping? I did. Was that part of the dream, or is that something that he really has next to his bed?
Starting point is 00:24:05 I have no idea. What was that about? Anyways. I was hoping you wouldn't see that. That is what I like to use for breathplay. I have a kind of steampunk approach to my breath. So, yeah, he's like, he's like in a hallway and he finds this photograph of Grumann, Taylor, or maybe is it his sister?
Starting point is 00:24:33 Hard to tell because the glass is all broken around it. And she's like talking him through how to write this letter. Like, you think I would have made a great chief engineer one day? Say that in the letter. Like, talk about how much I fuck. You think I was an okay crew person. Say I was a good crew person. If maybe you want to say I was a good crew person, say it was a great person. Give them no place to go. Lead them as far away from the Malcolm Reed issue as you possibly can is what I'm trying to say. Like don't want them asking any questions about what was going on there. As soon as Malcolm Reed's name is spoken, he wakes right up. Unclear how much sleep he's gotten. And I sort of wondered if his resistance to sleeping was related to his not sleeping toward the beginning of the season, where he was not sleeping because of how haunted he was by the death of his sister.
Starting point is 00:25:33 And he needed all that neuro pressure to get back right. He's got grief, insomnia. Yeah, like, this has just rinse repeated that situation. Hmm. Yeah. No one gave Tripp Tucker bad news. I think that's the lesson here. Yeah, but then you start to wonder, like, is this a defense mechanism? Like, does he make no one give him bad news because they know how severely it will affect them? I'm also suspicious of this. Yeah. Uh-huh. Legally, it's just a fart joke.
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Starting point is 00:30:20 Like, it just isn't. He needs more proof. And Degra is like, I'm open-minded enough to go with this. And not only that, I'm going to go back to Enterprise and see how much more evidence I can find. And Jinnar, as Degra goes, is like, hey, Try not to forget about our genocide plan. Stay on Team Genocide. So Degra finds himself in the command center
Starting point is 00:30:44 where Tepal and Trip are showing him the map of the spheres that they made and are like trying to undelete from the computer. It's a little bit messed up and glitchy on the screen, but this is part of how they're going to try and convince Degra that the spheres are part of, the plot to terraform this region of space right by the transdimensional beings that convinced him to to build the super weapon in the first place so important that he believe what they are telling him right here but trip is a little bit hyper fixated on the destruction of florida
Starting point is 00:31:26 and people being vaporized there and kind of lays into degris in a way that is It's like, yeah, man, I mean, righteous and you're absolutely correct, but maybe not the right time or place for that particular acts to be ground. I've had 20 minutes of sleep. My logic is flawless. You can't argue with me. He is going off on Degra, and Tepal is trying to calm him down when Archer shows up. Archer shows up like a teacher on the playground during recess who can tell that two kids in front of him have just been fighting,
Starting point is 00:32:03 or like about to throw punches. Yeah. How are the repairs coming? Just need a few more minutes, Captain. Archer invites DeGra to the clarinet rental closet and the second they leave, DePaul's like, Tripp, what the fuck, man?
Starting point is 00:32:18 Archer is trying to build trust with this guy. It's a fucking delicate situation. And you're going off on him. Hey, buddy, you need a back rub? That's kind of my specialty. I might be going through the DTs at the moment, but even I am managing to hold it together. Do you want me to dump out these nasty tootsies for you, Tripp? Would that make you feel a little bit better? Meanwhile, as we have seen several times already this episode, what was once a leak on the hull of the ship has turned into a full-on rupture of plasma.
Starting point is 00:32:53 And in order to repair this hole, they're going to have to go outside to do it. and Tripp Tucker and Reed are just the two to do it. If only this had happened a little bit quicker, a little bit earlier, Tripp wouldn't have put his foot in his mouth in front of Degra. Yeah. Because he would have been out on the hull with Reed. Yeah, bad timing. This is one of those Trip on the Hull scenes
Starting point is 00:33:19 where you've got to get the panels open and turn the knobs and crank the cranks. And Reed can't get his panel open. he's complaining about this to Trip who does not give any fucks he's like solve your own fucking problems I got my own panel to deal with I was delighted by the moment
Starting point is 00:33:39 we were told about the six minute deadline being while they were out on the saucer doing the repair I had no idea the situation was as urgent as it was I mean I know it was urgent the ship is venting plasma but like I didn't think
Starting point is 00:33:51 they were six minutes from death yeah hoshi gets a couple of lines in this episode she gets to talk about how Reed is overheating in his suit. Ben, I think we actually have time to play every line of dialogue. Hoshi has this episode. You ready?
Starting point is 00:34:05 Okay, let's do that right now. Scanning all frequencies. Nothing so far. We're receiving a transmission. It's Degra. He's telling us to follow him. They're hailing us. Captain.
Starting point is 00:34:19 The temperature in Lieutenant Reed's suit is over 44 degrees. 46 degrees. Captain, Degra's hailing us. Wow. Okay, I barely was able to take a sip of water, but I got back on Mike. Let's hear it for Linda Park. That's a wrap on Linda Park for the episode. Yeah, he gets a little too toasty in his EV suit, and he ignores orders to get back inside and heroically gets the panel off and, you know, turns the knob or whatever. Reed sacrifices his health and safety for that of the cruise, Ben, and I just have to ask you.
Starting point is 00:34:58 as far as Reed stock goes, higher, lower, or unchanged, based on this? I think it's a little bit higher. Like, I think this is a good moment for Reed, you know? I'm just disappointed he didn't die. Yeah. This would have been a good moment in the season to take out one of our main cast characters.
Starting point is 00:35:17 And, like, with stakes this high, like I feel like a modern television show would take out a main cast character at this point. I mean, there's so many close-up shots of the panel that the visual language of that often means that panel is going to explode and then wing your character into a flaming plasma geyser and shoot him into space. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:35:38 It would have been epic. Yeah. He wouldn't have even had time to write the letters. And then Tripp has to write the other 17? Oh, man. My hands got a cramp. I got a way to write that one. God damn it, I got as many letters to write as I have nipples.
Starting point is 00:35:54 You're never going to let that go, are you? My hands are all cramping. from all the letter writing and the breath play, but mostly the breath play. Guilty-ass charged. It feels like a great success until it's not, because once Reed and Tripp get back inside Enterprise, Reed is unconscious. And in the changing room, after they take Reed out of there, for some reason, Degra is there with Archer, and that is just wrong place, wrong time for Degra.
Starting point is 00:36:27 Degra, maybe keep your hope for Reed's condition to yourself, given what a live wire Tripp Tucker is. He is really in no mood, and he rips into DeGra for being a seven millionaire, for the body count that he has, and for, you know, feigning concern about one more human life. We just got to get these two guys apart. We can't have them in the same room anymore. I got to put this on Archer. you just can't do this No, like you were already standing in the back of the classroom. You saw that
Starting point is 00:37:02 these two students are at Degrogerheads. Good one. In the command center Degra is shown the Information Enterprise had gathered about the spheres. That's all cleared up now. It's unscrambled.
Starting point is 00:37:17 And it's a real sphere counting contest between Degra and Archer in this scene. A contest that Degra wins because the Zindia have counted It's 78 of them. And that is a real surprise to Archer who thought it was a 59-sphere situation that they were dealing with. Archer, on his back heel, also apologizes for what a bitch Tripp Tucker has been about the whole mass murder thing. Like, he's usually cool.
Starting point is 00:37:46 Like, any other circumstance, if you guys met, I think you guys would be total bros. But, yeah, he's just real touchy about that right now. The thing about Tripp Tucker's family is, like, one sister is just a total fucking bitch. And if that had been the one that had been killed, like, I think things would be very different. But, like, the good sister that he liked got killed, and that just changes everything, Degr. You got to know this about him and his sisters. They're talking about the, like, trust-building exercise that they've been undertaking over the last few hours. And Degro makes a joke about how like, you know, like, if you hadn't tricked me and wiped my memory that one time, I might be trusting you even more.
Starting point is 00:38:28 Who knows? It's so weird why I don't feel comfortable dating you after the whole Roofie situation. We went through on our first date. Yeah. But Archer is able to turn things around in this moment. It feels very precarious, but suddenly... Degras, you got to trust me. now things are different with the spheres we've been flying through sphere pudding for the last
Starting point is 00:38:58 two days and you're not going to like being inside of it Archer whips out scans from inside a sphere which Degra has never seen before and this is very valuable information and Degra's like how the fuck did you even get scans like this with your warship and Archer's like That's just it, man. This ain't a warship. And Degro's like, you mean like in a porno way? And he's like, no, no, no.
Starting point is 00:39:25 I mean, like, it's just like a, it's like an exploration vessel. Was your reference a this ain't no warship type of movie title? Yeah. Okay. Yeah. That's fun. Like as in This Ain't the Cosby's or This Ain't Cheers. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:39:41 Yeah. Have you ever seen This Ain't Cheers? I don't want to see This Ain't Cheers. I've seen a little bit of it. what's amazing is that they built the bar from Cheers like a perfect replica of it so that they could shoot people having sex in it. It surprises me very little that you've seen Cheers Porn.
Starting point is 00:40:04 The George Went looking porno star enters the bar. Have it in, everybody? Everyone yells, Mone! If we change the words, then it's fair use of us. all day long. So cut to Trip Tucker recording his letter to Kruman
Starting point is 00:40:24 Taylor, and after a false start, the second draft, oh my God, he's getting it. It's starting to sound pretty good. Until, God damn it, Reed, interrupts with a tactical alert. Oh, that was going to be it.
Starting point is 00:40:40 That was going to be it, but this reptilian ship has entered the cloaking barrier. God, the Zindies suck. They ruin everything for Tripp. The Ritalians call up Degra's ship at the Planet Ape guy's like, Oh, yeah, no, uh, yeah, what are you doing here? Nothing important that you guys shouldn't worry about us at all. Degra residents, this is Jadar.
Starting point is 00:41:03 Degra can't come to the phone right now. G'd I'm speaking. And then he facetimes over to Degra, who's on the Entrepreneurs Bridge, and is like, yeah, man, like they're going to start shooting. They're pretty pissed. And Degra's like, like, stall them, stall them. And Archer's like, come on, man, you got to help us, like, fight these guys off. And Degra's like, those are my boys out there.
Starting point is 00:41:29 Like, they definitely caught me doing some stuff I'm not supposed to do. But, like, I'm not going to help you get them. Like, there's no way. Those are Zindy. We don't know whether Degra gives Archer exploitable information at this point. because we cut to Degra's ship undocking from Enterprise after being ordered to dock with the reptiles into ship. And on Enterprise, I love this moment.
Starting point is 00:41:56 Almost a minute goes by where we're like, will he, won't he? Is Enterprise going to shoot first? No, it's Degra's ship that shoots first. They sucker punch this reptilian ship, and then the entrepreneur starts letting go torpedoes and phasers, and they pretty quickly disable this reptilian ship and there it is like listing in space and then Degra fucks around and destroys it
Starting point is 00:42:23 and he explains to Archer like couldn't risk them getting back to the council with what's going on here don't like what happened today but that was the way it had to go Degra doesn't hesitate he's rock and roll once it became a manslaughter
Starting point is 00:42:41 one beef he went ahead and took out the whole ship what difference does it make yeah janar heard it mostly to paul runs into trip in a hallway and trip has a giant box of portable zindi power cells a little gift from dagra and he's still so pissed off about this letter that he has to write they have a little conversation and it's revealed that the thing that has been making it such a high bar to clear for him is that he's really been trying to think of his sister as just another victim of the attack on Florida and not a personal loss. Even though I hated my other sister much more, I should still think of them as equal in siblings to me.
Starting point is 00:43:28 They're both members of my family, and part of this is the guilt of wishing it was the other one, and part of this is that Truman Taylor just kind of looked a lot like the other one, and it's like, I kind of wish it. I just, I'm forced to confront that I really wish it that that horrible wench had died. Connor Trudeer does two things as Tripp here. By kicking over the power cells, he does the, the like, first level of emotions
Starting point is 00:43:59 that TV actors get to do most of the time, the physical outburst that shows that they're hurting. But then he falls into this really, emotional display of grief that, like, I think represents maybe the best acting that Connor Traneer has done on the series. I thought he was excellent in this moment. Yeah, it's definitely like some of the most vulnerable moments I can think of. And it's interesting given the context of what Topal's been going through lately because she's like, he's saying like, God, I wish I, like, didn't have these feelings the way you don't.
Starting point is 00:44:41 And she either lies to him a little bit about not having those feelings or is telling the truth and is, like, getting in more control of what she's going through emotionally. Because she says, in many ways, I envy the fact that you're, like, experiencing real grief in this moment. It's such a great choice because she doesn't say the thing. She just describes the thing. And I think a worse episode of television would have had to Paul admit her addiction in this scene as a way to exchange grief currency or experience currency. Yeah. And I'm glad that doesn't happen here because that's a weakness some friends have in situations where one friend is struggling. Like let's just talk about the one thing without having to draw an equivalency.
Starting point is 00:45:34 Totally. So with this exchange, having been done in an elegant and artful way, we cut over to Degra and Archer, where DeGra has decided to invite Archer to meet him in front of the Zindy Council, where Archer can lawyer Archer his case. And that's going to happen in three days. And Archer's like, yo, yo, yo, but like, what about the weapon? Like, we still don't have status on the weapon. You haven't find my super weapon yet. And Degra's like, okay, like, I will do everything I can to delay it. Which doesn't sound like a promise.
Starting point is 00:46:14 It sounds like I'll see what I can do. It really demonstrates the asymmetry of trust between these two characters. Like, Archer really trusts him that he's telling the truth, even though in many ways Archer has wronged Degra big time. Yeah. I think it's a trust. necessity because they're both of their species stand to be destroyed if they're wrong. Right.
Starting point is 00:46:40 So Degra's like, all right, here's how you get there. You got to go through this nebular. Fair warning, there is a hostile species that will try to kill you on your way. But I'll catch you in a, you know, half of a week. Degra looks at the completely busted-ass jalopy that enterprises become. And he's like, good luck with that. Final scene of the episode is Tripp laying down an absolute banger of a consolation letter. If you're bereaved parents, this is the fucking letter you want.
Starting point is 00:47:17 It tells you a lot about crewman Taylor. It tells you a lot about Trip Tucker. It tells you a lot about the crew of the ship that your daughter has served on in a really interesting way. It's vivid and good and personal. And Reed didn't write it. Maybe best of all. Yeah, there's not a drip of horniness in this letter the way there could have been so easily. Dear Krumann Taylor's parents, I do regret I was unable to know your daughter better.
Starting point is 00:47:50 Biblically. And then it is revealed as the camera swings around that the thing Trip was holding this whole time while he was recording this letter. It's not a picture of Kruman. Taylor, but it was a picture of his sister. So I guess he said goodbye to her. The good one. The frame says like, favorite sister, number one sister. Best sister in the universe.
Starting point is 00:48:21 She's also wearing a number one sister t-shirt in the picture. Holding a foam finger. Yeah. And then in the background is the sister that didn't die wearing a bullshit other sister t-shirt? The good sister's wearing a shirt with an arrow, and the words on the shirt says, My sister is a total C. And then in parentheses under, not in the Australian sense.
Starting point is 00:48:53 Did you like this episode of Star Trek Enterprise, Adam? I can't pay. Could for late. Got no king. I really did because it helped me know TripTucker a little better, and it came so close to killing Reed. I think those two things are qualities and episodes I really like. How interesting has DeGRA become? Those first couple episodes, he was a fucking zero as a bad guy.
Starting point is 00:49:25 And just how complicated the relationship is between he and Archer, I think, does a lot to make him interesting. The one thing that you must remember about the asymmetry between Degra and Archer is that, like, there is no downside to waiting for Degra. The weapon is built. It can be deployed at any time. They have the benefit of time on the Zindi side. And so I feel like he can luxuriate in this little side quest to get proof sufficient for Jinar and be just fine. I think the pressure is way more on Archer here. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:50:07 And that just makes it interesting with every interaction that they have. I also love one detail I really want to call attention to, I don't think we have. Everyone is dirty this episode. Like, no one has changed their uniform. Tripp Tucker sleeps in a dirty uniform. Like, everyone's looking haggard in a way that really works. I don't even have time to change into my old-timey scuba outfit that I normally sleep in. if you were given me four hours to go take a nap
Starting point is 00:50:38 I'm using five minutes to take a shower I'll tell you that much what about you Ben yeah I'm curious to go back and relisten to that other time I've reviewed this one because I really liked it yeah listen to yourself doing it with some other co-host Ben
Starting point is 00:50:54 so yeah that makes you feel I wonder if picking it out of thin air the way it works on that show without all the context of the season that preceded it Would I have liked it? And I'm thinking maybe I didn't like it very much on that episode. And I have to say, it felt really strong and earned and good to me. Yeah, good up.
Starting point is 00:51:16 Got to say Croomin Rivers reminds me of someone or a time that something happened. I can't quite remember which, though. Got to remember to go check Priority One Messages, Ben. I want to see what's over there? We got to. Priority One message from Starfleet coming in on Secured Channel. You need a supplemental income. Supplement.
Starting point is 00:51:35 Supplement. Supplement. Yeah, it's extra. The interest alone could be enough to buy this ship. Got a promotional P-1 here. Goes like this. Are you a fan of Dr. Taana? Morese?
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Starting point is 00:52:32 T-A-H-E-L for indie games, Chill-H-H-H-H-H-H-H-H-L. Yeah, so Brinth out of hell. Brinth out of hell. Furies, Ben. Furies are in our F-O-D community. I've long suspected this. Yes.
Starting point is 00:52:52 They appreciate Kraft and, uh, what is the, what's the, a demon goat? I mean, I think I've primarily seen, like, wolf and, And fox-based furries in my limited experience, demon goat sounds like a really fun kind of furry. I wonder what it's like to be part of the motorcycle club that has the really exotic bike. And that seems like what demon goat is in a group full of fox slash, what was the other one you said? Oh, yeah, like wolves and foxes. If you're a wolf or a fox, it's probably really crazy to see a demon goat come through. Like, got to fuck that guy.
Starting point is 00:53:34 Right? What's that all about? Yeah, that seems like the table stakes there. Yeah, Brinth out of hell on Twitch.tv. Yeah, follow up and let us know if you get the greatest gen bump for this one, Brent. Got a priority one message here from Ian, he who just caught up. And it is to Ian. Whoa.
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Starting point is 00:55:04 Check it out. Hey, it sounds like you're back on your feet, Ian. That's great to hear. Much appreciated for the P1. If folks out there would like to get a P1 of their own, it's real easy to do. You had to Maximunfond.org slash jumbotron, and you can book one today.
Starting point is 00:55:25 Hey, Adam. What? Did you find yourself a drunk Shimoda? Incredible. Drunk Shimoda! Is anything going to convince Gennar at this point? Or is he just being obstinate? I kind of feel like he's being obstinate here.
Starting point is 00:55:42 I kind of feel like I am teamed genocide until I'm not, and nothing is really feeling like a persuasive argument against genocide at this point. The burden of proof is on time travel. So, yeah, Gennar for me. Yeah. I got to go with Tripp. Who has a old-timey scuba suit in space, of all things to take in your quarters? People were really paring shit down before this mission.
Starting point is 00:56:14 Yeah. We got to, like, bring only what you need to survive. Well, I need my scuba suit. Captain, how else did you think I earned the nickname scuba suit Tucker Faith of the Fart Let's talk a little bit about what we got coming up next Adam
Starting point is 00:56:32 While you figure out what we watch For the next episode I'll head over to gachdbiz slash game Where the Game of Buttholes Will of the Riker Quantum Leap is found Next episode will be season three Episode 21E squared
Starting point is 00:56:49 An attempt to use A Zindy subspace corridor leads the Enterprise crew to a bizarre encounter with their own descendants. Oh, boy. I got a vasectomy many years ago. This is very surprising.
Starting point is 00:57:07 I don't remember coming across any silver goo people. What's going on here? Oh, this sounds like a fun one, Ben. A fun episode to maybe do in a special way. Let's find out how we do that. Is that the hostile aliens in the nebula that DeGro was warning them about? They don't sound so hostile.
Starting point is 00:57:27 They sound chill, right? Yeah, yeah. All right, I got to roll some bones to find out how we will be experiencing this one, Adam. Right now, our runabout is on square 44 of the game of buttholes, and we could go anywhere,
Starting point is 00:57:44 so let's see what happens. You're required to learn as you play. Roll. Oh, boy, Adam. After a couple of narrow misses, we have landed once again on square 96. Next week, we will be doing an episode that employs many vori tellings. It's a Brone zone. I take you you in charge here.
Starting point is 00:58:15 Team leader, Brown, fourth-bore defense contingent. I got to get a pop. That's it. Get it. I kind of wish at this point it was the breadstick episode. I'm running out of Bori language usages here, but let's see what we got. It could be fun. It could be totally fucking annoying, but only one way to find out, Adam, is to fucking do it.
Starting point is 00:58:40 Let's do it. Let's also do the most important thing, which is to thank all of the people who make this show possible. We got the Friends of DeSoto who support at Maximum Fund. org slash join thanks to all of you those people get monthly bonus episodes which i'm very proud of we do really nice work on those and uh and they also just get the uh the good feeling of knowing that uh they're uh the main reason why this thing gets to continue to exist it's your fault we also got to thank windy pretty our producer and editor uh who keeps all the plates spinning around here. I think Bill Tilley, our Zindy
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Starting point is 01:00:07 about them. And I think if you're looking for a way to stay out of Bummerville, which I think these days all of us are, wholesome is a great thing. Adam Gusey, of course, made the parody of Diane Warren's original Enterprise theme.
Starting point is 01:00:24 We appreciate all his work on that. We also got to thank Dark Materia who made the Picard song. And with that, we will be back at you next week with another great episode of Star Trek Enterprise, an episode of the Great Generation Enterprise, where we meet our descendants also, and they're just all my descendants. that'd be really funny if they roll up on the descendants and it's like all of them are the children
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