The Greatest Generation - Thirsty for Friendship (DS9 S6E9)

Episode Date: April 13, 2020

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I'm Ben Harrison. We've not broken quarantine. We're using modern telephony to look at each other during. We've been hearing all of these other podcasts struggle with this and we thought, you know? Sure. Why don't we struggle with it too? Yeah.

Why not unnecessarily jump into that viper's pit of technology? The difference between our podcasts and other podcasts, though, is that we're such anal-retentive freaks that if there's lag on this, we're gonna go through and individually edit every single bit of audio that has gaps in it. It's true to take the lag out. Yeah. So it will be imperceptible to the listeners, but we may have just made a real headache for ourselves. I mean, I'm asking myself why we would do such a thing.

And in looking at you, I know why. It's worth it. It's worth it to see what's happened to you, Ben Harrison. I've never seen you with longer hair. I think you look great. I think you should keep growing it out. I look like I'm heading toward the end of my first semester of college.

Like I've never lived away from my parents before. And I've just been eating nothing but breakfast cereal and burgers and the dining hall. I am a mess right now. It's worth it seeing that crazed look in your eyes. Ha ha ha ha ha. You look great. You look like you've been keeping yourself in good shape. I wouldn't say that.

Remember, I don't have to shave every day. Right. And I guess for some reason my hair grows slower. But you know what, here's the thing, your hair cut and my hair cut are very different in that when your hair gets longer, it goes over the front in that when your hair gets longer it goes over the front and as my hair grows it goes over the back. This is the difference in styling that benefits me and hinders you I think. Yeah, I've never been more tempted to just to just buzz it, you know. I've been thinking the same.

I've had dark thoughts. It's like I don't want to look like a white supremacist, but I'm also not really going outside that much, so... Yeah. There wouldn't really be anyone to see me looking terrible. I don't think I would be any more or less laughable looking if I were to look like a space monkey. I think it's neutral.

If I just put that number three guard on and just hit it, I don't have the equipment for that, Ben. I don't think my body trimmer would be able to take on what my head is producing. You're gonna use the same trimmer on your hair as you use on your nuts? That's gross! Fucking pew beard fuck. Yeah, pew beard fucks the matter with you.

I can't do that. I actually don't really care about that at all. That's just nasty, man. What the fuck? I mean, yeah, you're a famous tub pissman. How dare you. You're mixing it all up, Ben. You are so fucking uptight if you've never pissed at a tub.

I piss in the shower all the time while it's running. Wow, it's running. I prescribed to the forest gump rule of shower urination. I prescribe to the rule of piss and showers go together like peas and carrots. See the show is going so much better already. I think seeing each other is bringing the bits out of us. Yeah, yeah, it's really going great. Do you want to get into the episode? You know what I can see that you really mean that.

So I think we might have to... Let's get into Deep Space 9, Season 6, Episode 9, S69, Ben. Nice. Oh shit! I didn't even notice that. Statistical probabilities. Do you realize how incredible this is? No, of course you don't. We get an Anson Williams, a director credit here. Ben, are you familiar with the great

Ants and Williams, the actor from Happy Days? He played Potsy. This is someone that, I mean, if we don't call attention to this, friend of the podcast Bill Tilly will... X-S-A-L-The Worseth. X-S-A-L-Excoriate us. I mean, I never watched Happy Days

that predates my syndicated television consumption. I'm not sure if you ever watched it, but uh... No, I don't think I did. I'm gonna be like kicking the side of my computer as we edit this thing. I'm gonna take it the waveforms to go. Hey! We've got some really poorly-adjusted folks who have made a trip to Deep Space Nine and we come to understand that this is a group of people.

They've got like a starfleet medical person talking to them about why they've come to Deep Space Nine but we come to understand that these are mutants segregated out of society that are not considered capable of taking care of themselves and or are a danger to themselves and others. So they live apart from society under supervision. And this lady is their supervisor. You know how there's like 10 different versions of the X-Men with like a descriptive word before the title, like the uncanny X-Men, the unbelievable X-Men.

These are the unpopular X-Men. That's a lot. They're really are. Their mutant powers are not cool. No, they're very boring. But they're here to meet Bashir. He's just like them. Are they the resentful X-Men? Because that's a big part of their whole deal too, right? Maybe that's just Jack's deal. Yeah, Jack is very resentful. I am Jack's

sense of resentment. We've got Jack, Patrick, Serena, and Lauren. And they have different styles. Jack is sort of the front man of the operation. He's the most outspoken of them. And he's... They've turned toward the improv audience and asked for different character traits. And these are the first four that the audience gave. Jack is a real ranter. He rants and raves.

Lauren is a sex pot who always seems to be in a reposed position in a bed that is in the middle of the room. Patrick is kind of the, kind of the packled body type, but a mind-the-size-of-a-planet. Poor Jack. And in Serena, played by NPR, wait, wait, don't tell me regular panelist Faith Saley. Is kind of a silent mousey girl who sits in the corner.

I have a question about her, and maybe, how many degrees of separation are we from the actor who plays Serena? Do you think, do you think, if we had a question, we could actually blow in a call? Oh, boy. We've got connections, right?

Because here's my question. If you don't have any lines in an episode, are you paid like an extra? I don't know, yeah, she definitely has more to do than your average extra. I wonder how scale works when you have no dialogue. You gotta be paid the same as Morn, right? I'm guessing she got more than Morn.

I would hope so. She has a lot less to carry around. Yeah. She was unmarried with children. I like that credit. That's fun. She's been on a lot of great stuff You know you see her you see her file photo and you see that smile and it's like it's like the clouds part Yeah, but you never get that in this episode. She's kind of cast against type I think yeah Anyways, the mutes are not behaving very well They they're very upset that they've been taken out of their comfort zone and brought to deep space nine. They don't like the idea of Bashir.

They don't like the idea of somebody that has, you know, the same descriptor as them, but that gets to live his life like a normal. It's the narcissism of minor differences, right? Like, Bashir is what might have been. Right. Yeah, Jack is a very emotionally immature about this. Lauren is like looking, looking longingly at a photo of Bichier and Jack breaks it and then uses the broken glass

to cut the hand of their, of their minder. Sorry. Dr. Lowe's. I'm not sorry, I broke not that. I like this bit of business here. Like, you don't have to show the broken glass, you just only have to show the effect of the broken glass on the hand. This is a fun production trick. This is another star trick anticipating broken phone screens.

Like, they not only invented the iPad, but they also invented the iPad that you drop. The effect is A to C because you don't even see Jack stomping this thing either. You never get to show the destruction of a prop. Yeah, yeah, it's just, it's done off screen with audio. Yeah. Good job. Yeah, I like Dr. Lo's like being pretty cool about this too.

Like he really shreds her hand, and she's like, that was really uncool Jack. Why did you do that? She's displaying the heroism of teachers who work with special need students. Like it takes a lot. And they're among the greatest people I've ever known. That's the sort of patience I will never understand.

Yeah, like that must be so hard to develop the instinct of, I'm not going to fly off the handle, instead I'm going to de-escalate immediately. I wonder what the rate of, and I don't mean specifically Buddhist, but I mean, the idea of letting things go through you instead of stopping them has got to be a quality for most teachers in this field. And I'm wonder statistically how many of them prescribe

to that kind of way of being. Oh, I don't know. That's what my mom did for her entire career. And she wasn't like that with me. Ha-ha-ha-ha-ha-ha. You've got the wooden spoon scars to prove it. Yeah, there's a weird thing that happens in this episode, which is Dr. Low comes out and runs into Bashir

in the hallway outside and is like, yeah, they're ready for you. And then we go to theme song. And when we come back, he's coming into this room, but all the lights are off. Yeah, that's a very useful theme song. Like did they turn the lights off the second Dr. Low left? Or... I'm just wondering what the mechanics of this were.

It does you know good to pull over into this ditch, Ben. You're just going to drive yourself crazy. Okay, well, it comes in. Lauren is very keen to know what kind of enhancements Bashir has, which is code for, tell me about your dong. Right, and I mean, Bashir has a real chance here to not dispute it in a way that benefits him. Tell me, doctor, what kind of enhancements

did your parents have done to you? You're the one who brought it up. If for no other reason than the comedy of it. Right. But he remains fairly professional in this moment. He could also use this as leverage to try and apply her for a urine sample or something. Right. This kind of just reintroducing the premise, right?

This scene, like we're going to hang out, you're going to see what it's like to be me and I'm going to see what it's like to be you. I love how Bishir closes this scene. Like, we're gonna hang out, you're gonna see what it's like to be me, and I'm gonna see what it's like to be you. I love how Bishir closes this scene. You're not wrong with its repetition, because Bishir goes and finds out for himself all of the things that Dr. Lo has described to him in the previous before theme scene, and then he's like, all right, I'm gonna go to dinner. in the previous before theme scene. And then he's like, all right, I'm gonna go to dinner. And it totally pieces out for dinner. Is this a cargo bay that they're hanging out in? It's a great question, and I was thinking this

for most of the episode, where the hell are they, and why are they doing this here? Yeah, I guess they're locked down, right? Like the implication is kind of that they can't leave, right? That they're a safety concern for the station. Yeah. I mean, there are places on the station tailor-made for the sort of lockdown that they need, and I don't know why they're not using those places. Yeah, I mean, you don't want Jack to just slip out the door and go cutting people with iPad screens. No, he's a danger to himself and everyone else.

Yeah. I liked this dinner party. It was the whole cast minus Jake. Yeah, for some reason Jake isn't there. Hahaha. And it seems to be the after dinner part of a dinner party where everyone's sort of either having their after dinner drink or their after dinner coffee and Bashir is holding court about his mission for the coming days. There, but for the grace of God go I.

Did you think it was weird that Wharf and Dax didn't sit next to each other at this hang? That you're implying that maybe things aren't great in their household? I'm reading the tea leaves that they go to a dinner party and are newlyweds that are not all over each other I don't know. I mean are you a side sitter? What are you doing? I'm side-sitting. You can't side-sit with me. Is that what you are? Because I I think I would be sitting across for my wife in a situation like this. They put either Cisco or Bashir in between themselves Yeah, and then Bashir is just sort of leaning against a planter or something, what's he doing?

Yeah. He's not making himself comfortable. He's also this single along with Kira, right? Right. But Kira's sitting next to Odo. Yeah, most of them are singles. What am I talking about? They're sort of talking about, you know,

what enables Bashir to be a productive member of society and what's different with these folks. Kind of an awkward conversation, right? Because a lot of people still hold a lot of very negative opinions about the genetically enhanced and give voice to them without thinking about the fact that Bashir is sitting right there. If people like them are allowed to compete freely, then parents would feel pressured to have their children enhance so they could keep up. You know what this conversation felt to me like was,

and this opens up a broader question. Do you think Bashir is a race of person? And the reason I asked that question is that something interesting happens through conversationally, which is he says things about himself that Make it uncomfortable for someone like warf to join in in similar descriptions in a way that feels very familiar in that same way

I'm sure you run into this a lot with with with your wife and her family like they can talk about their religion in a way that you Possibly couldn possibly couldn't criticize. Yeah, except for, it's weird because like, the kind of thing Bashir is, is not a protected group, it's the opposite. Like, he's actively and legally discriminated against in the federation, like he's got special dispensation to continue to be part of Starfleet,

but what should... Conversationally, it feels very similar. Yeah. Yeah. What should have happened according to the law of the land is what happened to these other four people? It's so interesting that more than just the broad idea of the idea of eugenics being, quote, unquote, bad, it's about fairness more than that. That's what this conversation is about. We can't allow the tampering to happen because that's going to give some people advantage over other people, and that's not fair. Well, and it'll also force everyone to seek that advantage. And the counterpoint to it is like, well, we can't blame these people for their circumstance.

It was out of their control. Their parents made them do it. It was thrust upon them. And they're all very uncomfortable. Like it sort of falls to Bashir to put the baddies. Like, yeah, you know, like this isn't easy stuff to talk about. And you know, classically, Cisco sensing how awkward the room has gotten, switches the conversation to contemporary politics.

Yeah. He's great at this. Yeah. Let's talk about the ongoing war and what Demar is going to say in his big speech. It's not a surprise why Picard never attended dinner parties like these. Like, would this be the direction that he would be compelled to steer any conversation? Yeah, I did like the call back in this scene when they start all screaming at each other about politics and Cisco sits back and goes, I should have stopped doing this a long time ago.

Go to comfortable, the cup, go to comfortable. So... Bishir gets a call from Jack. Jack who's evidently hacked into the comm system. Jack has a pretty leet hacks or? Yeah, it's a hostage situation in progress. Yeah, the noise that he had been complaining earlier about has not abated, so Bashir goes down to whatever this cargo bay is to look in on them. And it's something that the the mutes can hear, but other people cannot.

Do you think that we were supposed to hear it through our TVs? I really tried to hear it. I could. Oh, really? Do you turn up the volume? I did. See if there was anything in there?

You know, the way you used to be able to hear CRT TVs and that high pitched wine, I thought for sure it would be diagetic audio in there. Uh-huh. Yeah, maybe it was like one of those sounds like they play in fancy stores in the UK UK where if you're over a certain age You can't hear it, but if you're under a certain age, it's very annoying. Oh, yeah, it's to keep the the skateboarding teenagers Yeah out of your store. Yeah, these these mutants are have the hearing acuity of no good teens

Yeah, I mean, how do you solve a problem like a high-pitched noise? You bring in O'Brien. I am Chief Miles Edward O'Brien. This is fucking spectacular. Yeah, he's gonna bang on the pipes, figure out what's vibrating, and straighten it up. Straighten it out Patrick the old sort of confides in O'Brien a a Special ability his special ability is that he not only can hear this he knows what the Likely cause of the noise is and directs O'Brien in the ways in which to fix it sounds like the plasma flows out of sync

You're right Better realign it. Sounds like the plasma flows out of sync. You're right. Better realign it. Yeah, these guys are always like 10 or 12 steps ahead of everyone. And as O'Brien is fixing this, the TV kicks on and it's Dimars big speech. And one of the ways they are demonstrating themselves to be ahead of everyone else is that they're picking up

on unsaid things in the speech like the fact that Demar doesn't want to be giving it, the fact that Demar recently did murder. Demar has ascended to the seat that Ducat vacated when he went Kuku after Zeyol was killed. I'm happy for him. Yeah, good for him. I. Yeah. Good for him.

I mean, not a great political system when the way you send to a higher rank is by killing the daughter of the person that had the job you want. Yeah. Pretty dark. Yeah. But yeah, what Demar is calling for

is a peace conference with the Federation. They want to lay their sword and shield down and seize hostilities between Cardassia, Slash, the Dominion, and the Federation. And these mutants are very suspicious of what his motives might be. They glean all of this information just from reading the body language and scrutinizing the word choice here, right? Yeah. Like, it's kind of a magic trick here. Someone's making him say all this, he doesn't want to.

He's clearly reading off of a prompter because he's like looking too afro. Right, yeah. And when the prompter goes down for a second, he starts rambling and talking about stuff that just makes no sense. It's not a good look, and it doesn't inspire a lot of confidence. No, but yet the Federation News Network covers it as though it is normal and not alarming

in any way. Yeah, I think a responsible news org would cut away when it's just outright lies. When the misinformation is a threat to public safety, yeah, sensible choice. In Ops, Bashir released this story to cure and tax in a, you're never gonna believe this, but we were watching that to Mars speech, and these unpopular X-Men, like new exactly, New exactly what Demar's whole backstory is, it was wild. And for once they weren't like running around the room screaming and shitting themselves, like they actually gave a shit.

So I've left the TV on in their room just to give them something to pay attention to. It's actually much better for everyone that way. Yeah. But she wants to encourage more exercises like this, but he's running out of material. Right. Where are they going to get the materials, Ben? God, fucking dammit. For these mutants to consult.

So glad that I told you that story and now you have become the Alex Jorossi of my adult life. I know. So that is when Cisco makes a an opportune appearance. He walks in and says, Tomorrow in Wai-Um will be arriving in the morning. And I've been deputized to do the peace conference with them. And Bashir goes back down and breaks the good news to his team

who are going to get to watch this in full holographic reproduction. You are aware this motion picture is shown in feel-around? Yes. When the conference starts. We cut to the arrival of Weyun and Demar and Kira's welcome wagon is on fire It's got gun turrets in it and it's got tank treads. Yeah, it's very threatening. Welcome to deep space 9. oh nice to see you again the teenage mutant ninja turtles battle wagon of welcome wagons it is she's firing pizzas at them it gets ugly yeah I think this goes got to send another hospitality coordinator to meet Wei-Yun in

tomorrow, right? Yeah, like that's that's on Cisco, I think. It's not on Kira. Let me send my number one who is the most traumatized by these people because she recently had to spend months aboard the station alone with them. And was briefly imprisoned by them. Right. Whose life was in danger every day they were here.

Let's have her welcome them back. Right. We cut to the holo matrix projection you were describing Ben. And this adds a little bit more information to the question, what is this room that they're in? Because it seems to have the abilities of a hollow sweet, but it's much, much bigger than a hollow sweet, and it's configured far differently. Yeah, like does your average cargo bay have a hollow matrix installed?

Does your average cargo bay have a fainting couch in the middle? Right there in the middle. Yeah, not an efficient use of the space. They're watching parts of this back in Dominionese, which is helping the mutants because they've taught themselves Dominionese and they can tell because of subtleties in the conjugation that Wayun is being deceptive. What they've worked out is that the Dominion is at great pains to draw a line that looks like they're giving the federation a very generous concession, but in fact includes the

cabral system on the dominion side of the line, which would be great for them because the cabral system happens to have a planet that has vegetation on it, that would enable them to manufacture more of that white, white, white. So Cabral, for the purposes of this episode, we can just think of as being Bolivia. How am I afraid to believe me? I'm really glad they didn't go with their first version

of how the Cabral system had the resources for the white, which was just rivers of come. The white rivers of Cabral 3 come and visit. Try to get over the smell. It's very offensive. You'll think you're in that one span of a couple weeks in the spring in Brooklyn, where it smells like that because of those weird trees. Yeah.

Is come your favorite season? That Cabral may be for you. I like the scene where Bashir is walking Cisco through this because it's like a comedy routine where he keeps adding iPads to the argument. That's fun. And Cisco is like, game and curious to learn what they've worked out. Are you telling me that there's a planet that smells exactly like for some reason, Jake's room? Ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha Cabrrell, like take this concession, give them Cabrrell, because if we insist that we get Cabrrell, they're going like it forces their hand. They will have to attack us with everything they've got,

because if they run out of white, they're totally screwed. If you give them Bolivia, they're going to go have a party for a little while, and we can use that time to bolster our forces, maybe draw the Romulans into the war, this could be great for us. It will, by as time to rebuild our defenses. I really appreciate the many problems in this episode that appear to be reverse engineered from their solutions. Right. And there are many examples of this throughout the episode,

but this is maybe the first and most pronounced. You get a sense for this quality of problem-solving that the uninteresting X-men are able to present. And it's cool, and it's interesting to see Cisco almost horrified at his sense of diplomacy, like, oh god, what have I almost done here? Right. I almost gave them exactly what they want. So speaking of parties, it turns into a little bit of a party for the mutants.

Bashir goes back down in the cargo bay, slash hollow sweet, slash dormitory. And the uninteresting X-Men are very excited. They're poppin' champagne, they're puttin' on party hats, they're dancing with each other. There's some indication that Serena and Jack kind of have a thing for each other, but they're kind of unwilling to act on it. So. It seemed like this might answer the question

of why this room? And it's because what are we seeing here? We're seeing like handoffs sequentially. You're seeing the dancing and the celebrating and the foreground, you're seeing other people do other things in the background, you're seeing these camera moves and you could only do that in a space this big. You couldn't do this in the wardrobe, for example,

because the ceilings aren't high there. I kind of wonder though, like, what stipulated what? Like was there a first draft of this script where there was a lot of business about like getting them securely from one part of the station to the other? Or did they go like, you know what? This is just gonna like flow a lot better and be easier if we just build a set specifically for this

or you know, just use one of our cargo bay standing sets and don't fill it with barrels and pallets. Yeah, it sure seems likely that that's the way that it went down. Yeah, so O'Brien interrupts this party. He comes in saying he's like, gotta keep working on that loose pipe or whatever. They're on to him right away. You don't gotta loose pipe to work on man, you fucking wanna hang out with Bashir. Like us.

We like to hang out with Bashir too. You want me to play with you, do you, Chief? Look at how much funny is to hang out with. Clearly, you want to hit this. He's taught us all about some of his great hobbies, like throwing darts and drinking piss. You know, honestly, we've grown tired of the piss drinking. What do you think is in this bottle? It's not champagne. So, are you saying, honestly, we've grown tired of the piss drinking. What do you think is in this bottle? It's not champagne. So are you saying, uh, what your theory presupposes is that maybe all genetically modified in the start-tracking universe enjoy drinking piss? It's a unfortunate side effect of gene-resequencing.

Wow. Or fortunate depending on how you look at it, I don't know. Wow. So these are the piss thirsty X-Men I guess to work within the constraints of the unblank X-Men model they would be the unthirsty X-Men. Yes Is in thirsty like inflammable where it means the same as flammable? Right, right, right.

O'Brien kind of takes umbridge with Bashir's condescension in this scene. Because Bashir is like really leaning into the idea of the unthirsty X-Men's hypothesis. I think you do miss me, don't you? Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. I can tell. Speaking of thirsty O miss me, don't you? Yeah, yeah, yeah. I can tell. Speaking of thirsty, O'Brien, you're thirsty for friendship. But the thirst trap works, right? Because Bashir goes off with O'Brien, they have a dart tang.

And I really like this because they're kind of, they're doing bits with each other about like how, how brilliant Bashir is. And they're kind of talking about this weird reality. Well, also like busting each other's chops like, oh yeah, you're so fucking brilliant. You have to stand so much further back playing darts, Simpleton like me, like how could I ever hope to impress you?

I like how they carry that sensibility from the previous scene into this one. It makes the transition seem totally fluid. Again, I wish I didn't use the word fluid in a scene with sheer, but you know what I mean. It's very difficult to talk about, Bashir, and not have idioms start to sound like you're saying something about what he's into the most. Yeah. So later on, Bashir tells this crew that Starfleet will allow them access to classified intelligence materials. What? Yeah, and with that material, I guess this party devolves into them running some more numbers, which leads Bashir to reporting to Cisco that the war is hopeless.

They never get close to describing their powers this way. And I think if they had this fragile deck of brain cards would collapse, because what I made to understand from this scene is that the assembled, uncomfortable X-Men are able to do is do computing power on strategic plans. Right. They're taking fleet deployments and they're putting them into their own personal brain computers and then outputting these possible outcomes here in a way that seems like computers

would and should be doing. They're like a beautiful minding it. Like they're walking through a room and it's just full of equations and shapes be doing. They're like a beautiful minding it, like they're walking through a room and it's just full of equations and shapes and stuff. It's interesting that they never make such an equivalence in a way that I think would help me understand more just how much intelligence exists in that room because everyone's so silly,

I never take their intelligence seriously. Right. I don't like it any more than you do. I mean, I think also critically, they don't really talk in terms of probability. Yeah. They just talk in terms of certainty. Yeah.

It's like the Nate Silver thing where if he says, the election is 80% assured in this way and the 20% chance thing happens. Everybody's like, but you said 80%. And. Right. There's like a reason why 20% exists in that scenario. Right. And that's the thing I was struggling with was like for the rest of the episode,

like, but she has this big conversation with Cisco, like, yeah, basically nothing you can do. So in order to like mitigate the downsides of the war, you should surrender now. You'll save 900 billion lives. Not on my watch. And in like five generations, a resistance will rise up and crush the Dominion. But for now, we just have to take the L and and and and like mitigate the damage. But it's not like there is a 98% chance that the Dominion wins this war, so you might as well surrender. It's like the Dominion is gonna win this war. This number is so massive that, I mean, up until now, did we know how many people were in the Federation in totality?

Does 900 billion sound low or high from where you would guess? Well, I don't know. I mean, there's like the big four founding worlds, but then there's lots and lots of colony worlds and worlds that have signed up after the fact. I guess casualties of war include civilians. So, maybe... But just casualties mean deaths and injuries? I don't know. I don't know. I don't know war terminology I don't know the context of this episode. I think they're just talking about did listen

I think about war for one hour a week That's right. I'm friendly fire only one hour a week. I don't think about it aside from that Yeah, your brain turns off Completely Once you say the tagline about the spoiler alert. Yeah, I have never retained anything that we've talked about on that show. I don't remember any of the movies, really. Yeah.

I think that's evident in how I am as a co-host of the show. That's a character you play. That's not how you are in real life. So speaking of probabilities, like Bashir is very angry that Cisco has decided not to throw the towel in on the project of his civilization and goes down to Quarks to quote unquote prove a point by playing Dabo, which is rigged in the house's favor like every casino game.

And this is like a perfect opportunity to talk about, yeah, like you're probably gonna lose, but you might win, that's the point. Yeah, this is a real Benjamin R. Harrison in a casino scene for Dr. Bishir, and I'm the real quark of the moment. Ha, ha, ha, ha, ha, when I walk into a casino,

all I see is equations and shapes floating in the air. And I know that they're all, all of those equations are against me. But she has the five o'clock shadow of frustration and bad news from here on out. Have you noticed that? I didn't pick up on that. He's not taking his good care of himself. No, much like us. Yeah.

O'Brien feels the same way as Cisco, right? Because Bichir is confided this all in O'Brien. I guess there are no rules about keeping this information secret from an enlisted man. Yeah, you're not as smart as you think you are. Hey, as long as we're giving classified information to these wackos in the cargo bay, let's just kind of loosen up the rules in general. This year's surprise that O'Brien feels the same way. And the idea of a fighting chance

is what O'Brien presents, you know? Like in the same way as you're talking about that, that 20%, the Nate's over 20%, like probability versus possibility. Right, and O'Brien and Cisco are like, let's not give up now, we don't stand for this because the math is on our side, we stand for it because it's what we believe in.

And if the generation five generations for us is gonna have to rise up and crush the dominion, let's fucking give them something to model themselves on. Is Bashir pissed drunk here because he sort of staggers out of quarks at the end? He does rant and rave in a way that was unsettling. Maybe the undrunk X-Men are rubbing off on him a little bit. Yeah, where are the other medical professionals here? I think he needs to be walked home. Yeah. Long, long, long, long, long, long, long, long, long, long, long, long, long, long, long, long, long, long, long, long, long, long, long, long, long, long, long, long, long, long, long, long, long, long, long, long, long, long, long, long, long, long, long, long, long, long, long, long, long, long, long, long, long, long, long, long, long, long, long, long, long, long, long, long, long, long, long, long, long, long, long, long, long, long, long, long, long, long, long, long, long, long, long, long, long, long, long, long, long, long, long, long, long, long, long, long, long, long, long, long, long, long, long, long, long, long, long, long, long, long, long, long, long, long, long, long, long, long, long, long, long, long, long, long, long, long, long, long, long, long, long, long, long, long, long, long, long, long, long, long, long, long, long, long, long, long, long, long, long, long, long, long, long, long, long, long, long, long, long, long, long, long, long, long, long, long, long, long, long, long, long, long, long, long, long, long, long, long, long, long, long, long, long, long, long, long, long, long, long, long, long, long, long, long, long, long, long, long, His lights punched out by Jack. Bissier tries to order another piss and quarks like, haven't he had enough? Ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha room of the unsocialy capable X-Men and Jack presents the idea of treason. If Starfleet rejects the recommendation of surrender, then maybe we give this information about fleet

deployments directly to the Dominion. And be sure it's like we can't do that. We tried our best and we failed. Let's just leave it at that. But this isn't good enough for Jack. So Jack punches his lights out. The math is two billion casualties versus 900 billion casualties if they don't. So yeah, it's just good math. It's perfect math. But sheer has been taken off the board. We cut to DeMar and Wei-Yun conspiring in their state room. Demar's a little upset that the peace talks are not moving as quickly as he had hoped,

but Wei Yun is excited because he's gotten an anonymous tip from an anonymous person that's some undefined information that will help the dominion is on offer. What sort of information? I don't know. So he and Demar are gonna go look into that. Do you feel like Wayune, big dogs,

Demar more than he ever did to Kat? Yeah, I mean, I think part of it is just that DuKat already has kind of an imperious personality. He comes to those interactions on a little bit more even of footing, but also like Demar is the one that got the job from way you whereas do do cut like Negotiated his job we cut back to that mystery room and Bashir is in there alone

He's tied up and combatuous and the only other person there is Serena and Bashir attempts to lawyer Bashir her. He says, Serena, I know that I'm quite wet and I know that that has an awful smell to it. But if you could come over here and loosen these handcuffs. I've attempted to piss all over my handcuffs in order to loosen them. I thought that maybe the acid would eat through them or it would lubricate my wrists enough to pull my hands through or something, but it hasn't worked and I need your help. All it's done has made me very thirsty. We get some nice show and not tell because we don't see Serena

become convinced. We cut to Jack and crew wandering the station and then they're confronted by this year So that's how we know right and I really liked the the point this year makes here, which is like yeah you're like willing to sell out the entire Federation because you're so confident in these calculations But you failed to calculate that Serena would untimely and put a stop to your plans. So let's get off our high horses here and not be so entirely emphatically certain

that we're correct about this. Bishir gives Jack a sort of easy way or the hard way, ultimatum. What is he talking about? Is he threatening to shoot them in that hallway? If they don't return back to the room or what? Yeah, or like arrest them and incarcerate them because they're already kind of incarcerated. I was unclear about where that threat came from. Odo arrests Domaren-Wayun or whatever I mean, they're not going to get in jail.

Now, let me see your wrists. I've got a slapum. There you go. And there's one for you. We came closer to the destruction of the federation in this episode than we do in almost any episode. And it was just, uh, it was really it was really just Serena making the right choice in that moment that stopped it.

And it actually blows up the entire sense of self that Jack and the uncomfortable X-Men have had the confidence in their abilities because the case that Bashir makes is that if Jack didn't see the double cross from Serena coming, then what else didn't you account for in your statistical probability of Federation v Dominion War? I mean, they're still pretty confident in it. Like, Bashir has not exactly shaken their beliefs, but part of what was fun about this for them was getting to feel like they were involved and like doing something of value for

their society. Right. And and and being told like now now children like that won't be necessary anymore has got to feel really terrible. We get kind of a button on the episode here where really terrible. We get kind of a button on the episode here where O'Brien comforts Bishir and his defeat and I guess we're defining Bishir's defeat as being unable to nurse the uninteresting X-Men into being able to rejoin society or not having his surrender plan accepted by Starfleet. Bishir is clearly defeated by what's happened here,

but I don't know. He drank the Kool-Aid, right? Like he believed in this hookline and sinker. He checked all the numbers and believed in it. And he now has to like, he now has to believe in the counterargument that he was the one making. That it's impossible to anticipate every variable.

And that's something that probably is gonna take some time. Is it a little dark that Dr. Lowes' whole deal was about rehabilitation and therapy and bestier just basically used these people for intelligence. Like that's sort of the the defeat vibe makes me think that at the end like Bishir's big plan of using them strategically failed and that's why he feels bad. Like he's happy that they're going to be put on a transport ship home. Yeah.

At this point, he's happy to be free of them. But also like sad that like I I thought that the thing O'Brien said about like you you want to save lives and that's why you're a doctor and you tried to save 900 billion and failed. Like that was pretty heavy.. Like the math of that is pretty nuts. Quark cytos over and he's like, I know what it's like to save lives by doing nothing at all. Quark is like, exactly how you feel.

Should I have put you on like the Persona non-Graddle list for this bar after that fucking stunt you pulled last time you were here? Is it even possible to get kicked out a Quark's bar? Real question. I don't know. Doesn't seem to be. So it's time for Bishir's gang of geniuses to leave,

but they want to see him before saying goodbye. Yeah, they've got a request, right? Reward! Shut the fuck up! They just want to be listened to. Like they want, they want to keep workshopping this problem and Bishir promises that he will not send their email into junk automatically.

Right. He will read their messages. Yeah, like we'll start to try and think of moonshot ways to kick the Dominions ass. And if we come up with something, can we holler at you? I don't think of anything I'd like better. Bishiur's like holler at you? I can't think of anything I'd like better. Be sure to like holler at your boy. Holler at your boy. Alright, get out of here, you four, and they beam out, leaving that day bed empty for the first time since they arrived.

Lauren lays one on him before leaving. It's surprising that Lauren's in as good shape as she obviously is because she never seems to get out of that bed. She should be showing signs of muscular deterioration. Yeah, shouldn't she have like bed sores? Yeah. Extremely low muscle tone. Yeah, yeah. She should be a bad shape.

You really want to do this. Here, now okay, okay, let's do it, do it. Did you like the episode Adam? It got close to asking interesting questions in an interesting way, but instead, it just asked interesting questions in a superficial kind of way. Like, I like thinking about how much people

are willing to sacrifice ahead of a prospect of a lot of people dying. I think that is the ever-present thing that we're thinking about at the moment. The question of like, proportional sacrifice is interesting to me. And those are very like star trek show type ideas to consider. And those are very science fiction ideas to consider. Whether or not this show specifically ideas to consider, whether or not the show specifically does a capable job of asking them. I think it's hard because there's a version of this episode where this gang of geniuses are not kukus nests. They're not buffoons.

What would the version of this episode be if you know these guys were brought to the station in chains because they tried to pull the shit on earth. Like they weren't meant for normal society because they kept like they kept winning the lottery for example. Like they kept using their knowledge of statistics as a way to cheat their way through society and a way that was dangerous. And so what if we brought them to the station, gathered them, and then used them as the like the dirty dozen of think tanks? That's what I'm saying. Like the think tankification of this story is really interesting to me, and I wonder why they chose to cripple it by making everyone a little bit of a punchline. Yeah, I mean, they sort of hinted that with Jack that he's got like, he's got some

violence in him. And I thought that if he felt more like physically dangerous, like he is constantly like hiding knives in his pockets and stuff or something, like, or like Hannibal Lecter kind of intelligence where he sees all the angles but is also going to take any opportunity he can to eat somebody if an opportunity presents itself. I mean, what we're proposing here is budget neutral too. Yeah. You could still use the same sets, the same costumes, the same actors. Patrick could throw his comment somebody. Right. The idea of 900 billion is such a large and scary number,

but are you ever scared in this episode in a way that I think could be affecting and interesting? I want to be scared by that number. But every time you cut back and forth, you know, from this year presenting this Intel to Cisco, and then Cisco promising to send it to Starfleet Command, we cut back to the uncouth X-Men. And look, I can understand if the whole point of the episode was not to be so intense, we're getting a lot of those this season.

Yeah. So if that's what the goal was, then cool. So what about you? I think I kind of liked the episode. I agree with a lot of your criticism, but I did really like the huge time scale stuff that they do in this episode. Yeah. Like I think it's kind of an imperfect way to get there, but the thinking about like five generations in the future for the federation, thinking about like five generations in the future for the Federation, the second Federation being better and more like cogently founded than the first and lasting for thousands of years, like such an interesting idea kind of reminded me of the foundation novels, like

thinking about history and time spans that are like way, way beyond the lifespan of a single human and trying to control for that is such a fun sci-fi concept. And I'm not in love with this episode, but I appreciate it for getting us into some of that headspace. Yeah, I mean, one of those episodes where the conversation makes me like the episode more than just seeing it. Yeah, well, do you wanna see if we have any priority one messages that last thousands of years? I hope they're that good.

That should be the goal, right? Yeah, pretty impressive to do that with the character limit imposed by the maximum fun organization but no pressure guys. Priority one message from Starfleet coming in on Secured Channel. Need a supplement on? supplement on? supplement. Yes, extra.

The interest alone could be enough to buy this ship! Ben, our first priority win message. It's from our friends with the Facebook group for Exo Cooks. We love those guys. The message goes like this. You and FOD. Active on Facebook and in a ton of weird subgroups. Our theory presupposes that maybe you want to join one more? Join us in the greatest Exo Cook where there's contests, memes, games, recipes, and quality, content, Ben and Adam. Some questions for you.

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I like gasoline, I like bum-free-t, I like steak-o-puff, a French onion soup, but and do we at sausage is a war crime! What are your favorite pizza toppings? I like going like a sausage and onion, or a, oh a really good combination is grilled onions, basil, garlic, and bacon. Oh, it's a really good pizza tapping combo. There's a pizza place back in Seattle that my wife and I really liked

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That's one apple that fell off the tree, hit the stump, and then shot out 40 feet down a hill. Yeah. Coming to rest very far away from the tree. Yeah. I'm gonna go with Riker just because I feel like I could eat more pizzas in my life than I could eat Nirlens food, you know?

Really? Like so. I think you're wrong about that. I would go crawfish a-to-fei over pizza any day of the week. I don't know, man. How many a-to-fei-is-could-you-eat-week-in-a-week-out-before-feeling-just-really-bad? I would-I would love- You'd love to try.

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of this episode is Starfleet Command. Wow. Starfleet Command with almost limited computing power. Instead, for some reason, taking the advice of this gang of quote unquote geniuses, like they don't take the advice, which is right and good, but they consider it. And I don't know about that. Who are the belt buckles in charge over there who are even considering this advice? Those are my Shimoda. Those belt buckles were really weighing their brains down. Those are my Shimoda. Mine is wayun who are taking

a meeting with an anonymous tipster. He and the head of the Cardassian state go slinking around in a cargo bay somewhere, not knowing who has contacted them or what the quality of the information preferred might be. Yeah. I think you just got to be a lot more cautious than that when you're somebody like way in. I mean, they're both kind of heads of state and yet they walk around the station unprotected, right? Yeah, yeah.

What would stop anyone from taking a shot at either of these guys? This is a public place. Like, way in would fall for an email scam, you know? Like, he would be convinced that there was a relative of his that was stuck in Europe and needed $2,000 to get home. Right, right. It's interesting, neither of them comment on returning to the station, right?

Like, it's fairly soon after their evacuation. And that's one way to put out the fire that is Kira's welcome wagon, right? Yeah, just like, see like, wow, I see you've let maintenance slip a little bit. This hallway is quite dirty. Still taking care of my quarters for me till I return, Kira? Yeah. That would have been fun. A greatest-gen live show is something you don't want to miss.

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I would love to. Ben were currently on square 38. And boy, it looks like there is nothing within range of our square at the moment. I would have to roll a eight to get us to a cocoa no-no, and I don't like my chances of that. You're required to learn as you play, roll. Yeah, that seems pretty far from your traditional one roll.

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I wonder if we'll get to it before the end of DS9. Shit. What would you say the chances are of that? I don't know. I'm no mutant. I'm no unthinkable X-men. If only we had those guys to help us. Yeah, they would out.

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