The Greatest Generation - Tinker Toothpick Bottle Opener Spy (VOY S2E17)

Episode Date: September 20, 2021

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Priority 1 message from Starfleet coming in on Secured Channel. Hey friends of Disodo. Before today's episode, we just wanted to take a moment to talk about the historic labor actions being taken by writers and actors in the American Film and Television industry. If you're a fan of the work done by the people who make Star Trek, we hope you'll join us in standing in solidarity with the folks who actually bring these adventures to life. Over the past several years, the AMPTP, the organization that represents the American Film and Television Production Studios, have reduced the profit from movies and TV going to workers. And in so doing,

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Board of Directors Captain Captain Welcome to the greatest generation It's a Star Trek podcast by a couple of guys It's still a little bit embarrassed about having a Star Trek podcast I'm Adam Pranica I'm Ben Harrison If you were on Twitch, you would be watching this

But you're not, you're listening later I mean, you'll know if you were there. Something awful is about to happen. Don't feel it. Yeah, we have a greatest Trek Twitch account, and what we're gonna do today, Adam, is open some packages. It's a code 47, and when we do these,

we stream them on Twitch often on Friday's. So if you're interested in watching along as we do these, keep an eye on our social medias and our Twitch page. And maybe you can catch us live on the internet. Captain, I'm sorry to disturb you. I'm receiving a Code 47. Verify? It is Code 47, sir.

Start lead emergency frequency Captions eyes only Boy, I gave myself a really heavy float on my Dacquery bin. Oh really? Have you ever had a drink just Descend upon you like a third of the way through he's just start to feel it I it's happening to me right now man. I'm loving it. You're coming up as we head into this mailbag segment. It's perfect timing. I have a very vivid memory of being in high school and not being a drinker yet and having

a friend describe that phenomenon to me and trying to imagine what it was like. But now I know. It's good. I've famously never been able to time anything right. But it looks like it's happening here on the show. Ben, tell me about the first package you're going to open. OK, so the first one we've got here is from Benjamin H. in Menassus Park, Virginia. I'm guessing no relation.

I'm omitting the last name, but it's not Harris. This is a real primer time travel situation. Yeah. Where you've sent something to yourself on the show. What Benjamin has sent is some comic books. Some Marvel presents Paramount Comics. We've got three different Star Trek Starfleet Academy comic books here.

You know what, one of those Starfleet Academy comics was referred to in an episode of Lower Decks, the one where Marinor works out on that reliant class ship, that ship is from one of those comps. The McDuff, is that it? Yeah, no kidding. The McDuff is in there. Wow.

You guys think I'm just all dick joke and no Star Trek trivia? I didn't have to look that up, I knew. How did you know? I'm an expert, I get invited places to talk about Star Trek. I drive a dog's stratus! Card Daddy says in the chat that those comics are nog-heavy. If you're a fan of nog.

Oh yeah, I did see a forengue in there, but I wasn't sure if it was nog or not. All right, I'm gonna open my next package. It's from Lin-S. Came all the way from Edinburgh. It's got Royal Mail... Uh... Ha-ha-ha-ha-ha-ha-ha-ha-ha-ha-ha-ha-ha-ha-ha-ha-ha-ha-ha-ha-ha-ha-ha-ha-ha-ha-ha-ha-ha-ha-ha-ha-ha-ha-ha-ha-ha-ha-ha-ha-ha-ha-ha-ha-ha-ha-ha-ha-ha-ha-ha-ha-ha-ha-ha-ha-ha-ha-ha-ha-ha-ha-ha-ha-ha-ha-ha-ha-ha-ha-ha-ha-ha-ha-ha-ha-ha-ha-ha-ha-ha-ha-ha-ha-ha-ha-ha-ha-ha-ha-ha-ha-ha-ha-ha-ha-ha-ha-ha-ha-ha-ha-ha-ha-ha-ha-ha-ha-ha-ha-ha-ha-ha-ha-ha-ha-ha-ha-ha-ha-ha-ha-ha-ha-ha-ha-ha-ha-ha-ha-ha-ha-ha-ha-ha-ha-ha-ha-ha-ha-ha-ha-ha-ha-ha-ha-ha-ha-ha-ha-ha-ha-ha-ha-ha-ha-ha-ha-ha-ha-ha-ha-ha-ha Male male, uh... Hello there. Male male postage on here. The postage cost is in pounds, Adam.

Pound sterling. I almost don't want to ask how expensive it was to ship, but I am curious how much does it cost to, to male the flat pack from Edinburgh to you? Uh... It was more than 10 and less than 15 squid. Alright. Alright. Opening...

Package. Dear Ben and Adam and Rob's and Bill, please find and close three items. First item. The program. From my very first con, which featured one of the first UK showings of Voyager. It's signed by Dr. Who and I've never been able to work out what the dedication says. Second item, the front part of a combat badge I bought at the same com, sorry the batteries in the pack leaked and wrecked the back bit.

Oh no. It used to make the noise, wow. My dad was super mad at me because he thought it cost too much. These traumas are now yours, I guess. Thanks for all you do, Linden Edinburgh, PS, a typed letter seemed like I care less than if I'd handwritten one, but it shows I care more. Because my handwriting is terrible. Probably a doctor. One of my favorite sci-fi authors in M. Banks is is Scottish and I love reading his books and imagining all the characters speaking in Scottish accents and I just read Lynn's letter and I didn't do a Scottish accent because I knew I wouldn't do it good enough for air but you do a great accent Ben all your accents are

spot on much better than my trash, which are humiliating for me and insulting to everyone else. Adam, this next one, this may get edited out of the show, I'm not sure, but this one is from McKenzie in North Hollywood and it's just too Adam Pranaka, so up to you whether I open this or not or should I save it. Open it on the show and we can cut it out of the recorded podcast if we have to. See this is the advantage of coming to the Twitch. Yeah.

You might see something that got cut out. Uh, it says, dear Adam and Ben, I first came across your podcast in 2018. The month before I moved to LA, my goal was slash is to try and hack it as a screenwriter, perhaps even one day to work on a Star Trek property. It was as if I had unearthed a giant temple full of chill hangs where time was irrelevant. The two of you were there for me every step of the way as I went through a disruptive vortex of moving halfway across the country, resettling in a strange place, going through the unnerving process of making all new friends. But it felt a little born meant to be because these two funny star trick guys were also moving to LA at the same time as I was

Now you may open the gift Timba his arms open. Oh my god. It's gift wrapped at him. Look at that. Hey are those melons on there? These are yeah, these are melons everybody knows what a what the core of a melon looks like These are melons, everybody knows what the core of a melon looks like. Oh, it's the Nelix Cookbook. Hey, can you turn that to a side? I want to see how thick that is. That is a thick daddy. That is way too thick. Way too thick.

It would be hard to make any cookbook thicker than this. This is like the only cookbooks thicker than this. This is like, the only cookbooks thicker than this are like, the joy of cooking level cookbooks that are just like encyclopedias of all food. The thing that's so traumatizing about the joy of cooking book is how much body hair is drawn under the people in the pictures. It's kind of a lot. It does not make me hungry. It's a very weird book. So you want to know the recipe for the Picard cocktail? I sure do. We should make that next time. No, we shouldn't.

Yeah, all right. We'll lay it on me. 8 ounces fresh spring water. 1 ounce grand marnie la Cur. One teaspoon Earl Grey tea leaves. What the fuck is that? That is shitty. That's barely a drink, much less a cocktail. Definitely not a cocktail. That's something that I would drink after playing a half of pickup basketball.

Like, just as a quencher. What the hell is that? Yeah. Wow. Well, thank you so much Mackenzie. Thanks for the effort Mackenzie, but no thank you to that gift. Do not. Well, there's good stuff in there, too.

There are some of the recipes are good. You read the water recipe, Ben. I'm going to read a good recipe. God dammit. There are people talking about Frank's barbecue in this book and a number of people. Oh okay. Oh Frank's barbecue they say, is there? Is there that? No way. Jonathan Frank's barbecue marinate. Okay. Two pounds of chicken pieces, pork spare ribs, beef short ribs, or baby back ribs, one fresh lemon,

virgin olive oil, soy sauce or light soy sauce and fresh coarsely ground pepper. In a deep dish, your covered pot cover the meat with the olive oil, drizzle the mixture with soy sauce, squeeze the juice of a fresh lemon into the mixture, grind in the pepper, flip the meat and grind more pepper. Cover and let sit for three hours at room temperature or overnight in your refrigerator. Barbecue, your favorite way serves four to six. I mean that really leaves a lot up to the reader there as far as barbecue your favorite way. What is that?

Well listen to this. Alphry Woodard shared this recipe with Jonathan Frakes and then he says actually I stole it. So you know what? I'm tired of things being stolen from Alphry Woodard shared this recipe with Jonathan Freaks, and then he says, actually, I stole it. So... You know what? I'm tired of things being stolen from Alfred Woodard. Yeah, it's like her opportunity to make first contact with the Vulcans. Yeah, exactly. What the hell, Freaks? That's two strikes now. You know what? There's something for you to talk to him about.

Where do you see the next to him on an aircraft? Hey, uh... So what do you see the next to him on an aircraft? Hey, so what do you do for work? And then you get to that? Anyway, what's your favorite barbecue recipe? Alright Adam, our next package is from Julien M in Niagara Falls, Ontario. It's dependent on another international package. Wow.

Here's Julie's letter. Dear band and Adam, may I present to you a couple of teas from the patron saint of the Femmes of Desotto, she who is our captain. We have fought many, an internet battle defending our Voyager Love and I'm so happy you have taken it to the pod. I made this shirt with the idea from another FOD Dana Smith to sell and give the scarves back to our community and even though Facebook is garbage our little corner is something really special. I've also included a set of Valentine cards. Don't worry, I know you will be rightfully embarrassed to give them to anyone.

Anyway, I have never missed a Toronto live show and I can't wait till you can come back one day. Sincerely, longtime viewer Max Fun supporter, first time caller, friend of the soda, daughter of the fifth house, wielder of the flames of N.R. Live long and prosper, Julie M. Wow. And we each got some some t-shirts. Oh wow! It's a Janeway shirt. That's great. I'm gonna say our inability to play Toronto was a pretty big factor in our deciding not to tour this year. Yeah. Why even try to tour if you can't do Toronto? It doesn't feel right if you don't get to go to Toronto. I'm going to show you a couple of these these Valentine's. Look at these. This seems like something we should do for Valentine's Day on podchop.biz. Look

at these. We should see if Julie would be interested in sharing these designs. I feel like the friends of the soda would love to send these out. You know what? Let's get in touch with Julie about putting these in the store for Valentine's Day. I think they'd be amazing. Indeed. Thank you, Julie. Okay, Adam.

This next package is from Ramone LP4 in Houston, Texas. Here's the letter. Hey Ben Hay Adam. I picked up this Tom Pericidi from the TGG Voyager adjacent pod, the Delta Flyers. Looks like it's something Robert Duncan McNeil did on a lark back in the day and not an official release, but I thought you'd like to add it to your Trek Star's Sing's collection. Thanks for the pod and being all twitchy on Friday's Ramon LP4. Wow.

Thanks Ramon LP4. This is maybe the most 90s CD design I've ever seen. Robert Duncan McNeil. B-Dunks. It's a weird like high angle of him, I think, and he's holding like a gray alien mask. I don't believe this. Yeah. This seems impossible.

It says for demonstration purposes only any duplication, resale broadcast, webcast, or public reproduction is strictly prohibited. Yeah, it's the sort of CD you want to use to like demonstrate the abilities if you're high-fi system. Yeah, right. Next package from Nicole B. Death Valley proof. Proof is in the card. Dear Ben and Adam, Star Trek, especially TNG has always been my happy place. I grew up watching it every week with my dad and my brother, so it's very nostalgic for me.

When I discovered your pod back in 2017, I knew immediately that it was what I needed in my life. You guys and your jokes have gotten me through some bad times at work and some bad times in life, including a pandemic and all seven seasons of DS9, only kind of joking. You have a small but loyal following in the National Park Service. As a token of our appreciation for the quality, pot, and entertainment, and closed our couple of NPS Challenge coins, I also threw in two shot glasses from my park. I'm hoping you received these before the next Mornhammered episodes are Adam can't cheat on Power Hour anymore.

How's there you sick burn on Adam? I love you guys and everything you've done to bring the FODs together based on our shared love of all Star Trek everywhere and if you ever find yourself on Tatooine look me up I'll give you the Star Wars tour your NPS FOD pod promoter Ranger Nicole Wow! Ranger Nicole! So we got some challenge coins here. Oh that's great that's really lovely. So that's what those look like and then we each get a shot glass also. And this way we'll be able to keep pace next time we're shooting shots of beer, Adam. Dead Valley National Park Shot Glass. Okay Adam, this one's from Chuck M in Lawrenceville, Georgia. Dear Adam and Ben, I hope you like my decently sized package.

Not too big, not too small for what's inside. My wife helped with that joke. As a friend of DeSoto, I look forward to seeing you fulfill your destiny to play Klingons, getting shot out of an airlock and or voicing Klingons in a video game. Do you see the disc and the cone concentrate. Make the disc go into the cone. You know what's great about Suck Disc game is that like you know there's no way in hell that that would have worked to infiltrate the Klingons.

They would have tore that thing off of their loaf and thrown it into the trash so fast. Yeah, we fans know that this enterprise of yours won't condemn you to being in the pocket of big ride anymore than Ashley Judd is. But before any of this can happen, wouldn't it be interesting to see what you guys would look like as Klingons? Well, worry no more because I have taken the liberty of giving you the full loaf treatment. I hope you like the shirts that are not too embarrassed to own them. If you are, I won't be offended in the slightest if they were dumped on to Bill Tilly.

He might be offended, but I won't. Thanks for all you do. Keep up the great work, Chuck Am. Of Geek Life Crisis! Whoa! Man! The Geek Life Crisis Show. They predate the view screen as an appreciator of our work.

They do. Yeah, and I'm appreciator of our work. They too. And I'm gonna unveil this shirt right now. This is pretty funny. Oh no. Your photoshop done to General Chang from undiscovered country. Yeah, I got the much better treatment. I'm just done too. You look like a lursa or a batur.

Yeah, I thought for sure. For your no boob window for me. But there's two of these t-shirts, one for you, one for me. That is so great. Amazing. Wow, well, thank you to everyone that sent something in. We just really, really appreciate it. And we feel like we've wasted so much of these people's time.

Let's get to the show, Adam. What do you say? Can't believe it. It's the longest mare and ever. If you've been around this long, you probably deserve Star Trek Voyage or season two episode 17, Dreadnought. Reaver, of course. Unless you've got something a little bigger in your torpedo tubes, I'm not turning around. Are you a Dread do or a Dread dread not? What'd you say? I don't know.

Dread do or dread do not, there is no dread try. Wow, we're off to a great start on today's episode. I'm like the track athlete that just fell out of the block. Just fell right over. Yeah, just face planted and when you look up, you say in bolt is crossing the finish line. You've got gravel stuck to your forehead. We start with a prenatal checkup here today on the show.

If you were Wildman, wouldn't you see any other doctor besides Doc Holliday at this point? After last time? I mean, he's the doctor though. He's the doctor. I think you could make yourself a pretty passable doctor in the holiday, couldn't you? Oh yeah, you, uh, you, Leah Brahms, your self-addoctor. I'm guilty of a terrible crime, doctor. They're talking about baby names, and I had totally forgotten about the Doc Hollow Day

needs a name storyline. They really dropped that and just didn't come back to it for a long time. Cass is like, what are you talking about? Is this the storyline of yours? Yeah. Doc Hollow Day is like, yeah, it's literally all I've thought about.

He's like, listen, if you wanna know how much consideration I've given this, I would never have called it the Chevy Nova. I would have seen that coming from a mile away that when they tried to put it on the market in Spanish-speaking countries, they'd be laughed at, ridiculed. I'm not going to make that same mistake. A awful bit of trivia gets dropped in the scene, Ben. Yeah. Poor Wildman's husband, the father of her child. My husband's name is Gris Krendrich. Yeah, I've got a question.

In Star Trek Voyager Season 2 Episode 17, Dread Not, we learn that Wildman's baby's father is Catarian. Now, the only instance of Catarians on Star Trek previous to this was the episode involving the Suck Disc. So are we just supposed to get that there are good Catarians out there who are knocking up our human star fleets and having healthy positive relationships with them. Because the sucked disc lady taught me all I needed to know about citarians. Yeah, people put a copy of the sucked disc video up on TikTok and then say, how do you reform this? Yeah, so I guess it wasn't so much of a question as much as it was a comment. Get a light.

So the prenatal checkups have not gone well, typically, and this one really devolves when the doc starts shitting on all of her name ideas and then getting touchy with Cass about the fact that Cass is floating non-human names to Ensign Wildman, but not to him. Yeah, Kess offers the name Benerun as an idea. It seems like it would make a good nickname for you.

Like, sober Ben is Ben. Party Ben is Benerun. Yeah. The tough thing is that most people can't tell the difference between sober Ben and party Ben. I don't really party that hard. Party ban is super chill. That wasn't what I noticed in the pool, Cabana.

Banner and can party. I had very little part in the heights that that party reached. You know, I was in the bathroom when people started dumping ice in their shorts. I still don't know why that happened. Some people said I was the instigator of that activity, but I don't remember. If that's true, I wasn't there to witness it, so I can't corroborate that claim. No one can. Anyways, it's a storyline.

It's taking some time, and we'll check in with many of the storylines that are unfolding over a long period of time in this episode. But we've got to get to the A story, Adam. There's not much left of whatever it was. The A story's on the bridge. You know that's where it is. Yeah, there's some debris from like a gunfight. A small ship was destroyed. And this thing was made out of tough stuff.

It was made out of some alloy and they're like, holy shit. What could blow a shuttlecraft apart? They should know. They know exactly what destroy shuttles every time, even when they're made out of de-retanium. Yeah. I don't like buying pants made out of de-retanium, even though they come with the fun stitching on the inside,

when you roll up the cuff, they just take too long to break in. Well, like that, they feel hard. You're just a shorts and t-shirt and hoodie guy now, so. Yeah, you'll beach, boom. You're never going back to a hard material like Dorotanium for your pants. Well, everything's drawstrings from here on in. It's a drawstring lifestyle, and I'm here for it. It's the only thing chill about me. Toofuck is like scanning it and he's like Captain, there

appears to have been no drawstring in this shuttlecraft. Yeah, I like how they have to scan for bio. There's no bio in this flotsam. So this is a pretty interesting mystery. They beam some of the debris on board. They get it down in close to the warp core to check it out. And they've done like the ballistics on these on these scraps. The weapon signature are Cardassia. You don't like that. I mean, you get you got to think Cesca immediately, right? One person comes to everyone's mind, but it's not her fault, Adam. It's BLT's.

Guilty BLT's to theme. So we come back and it's a McLaughlin group. Is your wife? And you've seen people show up late to McLaughlin groups very recently on this show and not take the ration of shit that Tom Paris takes in this scene. Chico Tay has been up in Paris's ass for several episodes now.

What my theory presupposes is that he's never left. Like he's taking up a home there. Yeah, I guess the difference though is that like when BLT was late to that McLaughlin group a few episodes ago She walked in Apologized and was like Getting down to business like Before anybody could say anything about the apology Right Tom Paris does that thing where he like he like huffs up and he's like breathing heavily like like he, you know, ran the last 20 yards to really sell that he was in a hurry, and his hair is must up. Like, he doesn't play it smooth the way BLT does.

Sorry. No, and just think about for a second, how disheveled you have to look in a crew of hundreds of people that are dressed exactly the same. This is the school uniform problem, right? Right. Anyway, we'll learn a little bit about the thing that destroyed the shuttle. It was a missile. A missile that's sort of in description

sounds a little bit like a 24th century version of the atomic bomb if the original atomic bomb also had its own defensive weaponry. Yeah, it's a missile with a nickname and that's never a good sign. It's carrying a metric ton of antimatter and a metric ton of matter. It's got a crazy computer on board that is great at defending it. It's basically unstoppable is what they say. Just like the movie. It's a missile, the size of the Chrysler builds. And it's out of control. So the BLT reprogrammed this thing when she was a make-wease. Make-wease? Like it was a Cardassian weapon. It was a Cardassian weapon. It was sent to kill make-we, yeah. She managed to repurpose it, kind of retask it to Mayquease

ends and it was sent out on a Mayquease mission. And the last time they saw it was in the Badlands. Like this, this is a storyline that left off right before the beginning of season one, episode one. Don't throw your trash into the badlands. Is the message I'm getting here. Because it's just gonna end up in the D-quad. And if you do, throw it in one of the bare-proof bins

that they've helpedfully placed around the badlands. Right. The idea is because BLT has been on board this Chrysler building before, maybe if she got back on again, she'd be able to reprogram this thing enough to shut her down. Yeah, it's something that she is volunteering to do. So they're going to go see if they can get a read on where it is. And that's one of the things that is gonna be hard

because it's also good at hiding. Yeah, this thing is great. Do you notice how dark it was in this McLaughlin group? I did notice. Really dialed down the lighting in a lot of scenes lately. I mean, there's like a screen that they're all looking at. So maybe they cut something out at the beginning. Like, I have a presentation, Captain.

Are they conserving energy in the same way as they're conserving like replicated rations and stuff? Maybe. I don't know. At the end of this meeting, Chico Tay is on the other side of the ball-kicking machine. Lodes it up with Paris inside and gives a ration of shit to Paris about his tardiness.

I expect everyone to show up for meetings on time and properly dressed. Chicoote's already proven himself to be kind of an impotent manager with the whole year-on-report thing for the gambling. Right. What does Paris care? What could they possibly do to Paris? This isn't a corrective action. I mean, crucially, this time the captain

is standing right there watching. And I do feel like Paris needs the captain's approval a lot more than he needs to cut his. But this is another thing that feels like a storyline that they're setting up for the long term that will come to a head eventually. What is up with Paris's shitty attitude of late? Yeah, if you're hoping for character satisfaction, W-Slash-R, S-T, Tom Paris, you're not going to find it in this episode. No. So, BLT, and he head back down to engineering to do a little work on finding the missile,

and she is feeling really, really guilty about the whole thing, because Chico Tey kind of covered for her in that meeting. Yeah, it turns out this whole thing is BLT's fault. They didn't send it on a mission. She sent it on a mission. She sent it on a mission. Can you imagine hitting that button to launch the missile without getting authorization to do it? Yeah, you have an incomplete transmission

that may or may not say, hold off on the launch and you just go ahead and launch. This is like Gene Hackman trying to launch without Denzel Washington, you can't do that. Need both keys, you gotta have both keys. You must be really worried about catching this thing. She tells a story about the time that Chico Tei said to her that it wasn't that he was mad,

it was that he was disappointed. And Tom Parris is like, yeah, I get that a lot. Mad, disappointed, lip and center stallions. Kind of a lot happening on that disappointed, lip and sounder stallions. Kind of all that happening on that make-wee-shift. He expresses some admiration for how well she has integrated herself in the star-fleetness of the Voyager. Seems like she's doing even better than he is in that regard.

BLT is like, well, I mean, you could comb your hair and try. That's a way to do it. I have loaf and hair that I need to deal with in the morning. All you need to do is run a comb through your hair like four or five times and you would look 10 times better. What's up? This is an episode that is exclusively focused on BLT

because this is a scene that can help us understand what Paris is going through, if BLT were curious at all about what Paris is going through. And at the end of this scene, it just goes nowhere. They don't have a lot of time to get into this. Yeah, I mean, Paris is kind of spiraling out, right? Yeah, he got in like a fist fight apparently. Yeah.

But we don't get into this because we got to head up to the bridge where they have some readings that may be this missile. This is one of those scenes where I feel like Anton Kim has gotten this before in previous episodes where every time he makes an observation, the ball kicking machine comes for him. Not only is it that Kim is wrong, it's that BLT has specifically programmed this missile in all of these cool ways to make him wrong. Yeah. I think I've got it on long-range sensors.

No, that's only a sensor echo. And she's just letting him hang out there and say wrong things so that she can then respond with actually. BLT-sode quarters into the into the soil that have now sprouted ball kicking machines. Yeah, yeah. That are that are being reaped right now. Yeah. It's within visual range. On screen. What do you think this thing was gonna look like?

Did not think it was gonna look like a cyan XB that's ahead of me on the highway, but that's what it looks like. Yeah, you know how sometimes like, I feel like this is more common in like the late 90s, but like someone would make a limo out of an unusual car. Right, sure. This looks like a limo sci-on XB.

That no one should have ever made. He does, and it's like, this was not what I was picturing when you told me we would be riding in style to the prom. Exhibit sees this on the Pimp My Ride show and he's like, this episode's not making it to air. This is just not cool enough. We're pulling this one. This is the last episode of Pimp My Ride.

Yeah. The Sion limo has locked on to its final target and it's a populated planet. They scan for life forms. Life for God damn it. They don't do that. They do. No one does that. They scan for life forms and they find them.

The class M planet with population. At least this place is three weeks away, right? They've got some time to stop this Chrysler building from ramming itself into this planet. Plenty of time. This is an easy episode. Yeah. We're going to be home by lunchtime. The complicating factor is this Jonas guy. Jonas keeps on feeding information to Sesca through an intermediary. We never see Sesca in these scenes. He's always talking to an admin person and this is so humiliating for Jonas every time.

Yeah. I think I miss identified trader engineering guy and either the last episode we recorded or the one before that as Hanson. Yeah. It's very hard to tell these shitty marginal white guys apart. Always has been. Yeah.

But he doesn't, he doesn't seem to have a new contact among the K-Zone. He's going through the phone tree. It's always frustrating to do that. Yeah. He's just trying phone numbers with K-Zone area codes and exchanges hoping to get SESCA. He just keeps hitting zero,

and nothing is getting him to anyone who could help him. Is this Kazon guy that he's talking to, like Bill reading our DMs on the greatest direct Twitter account? He's like, I just want to talk to Ben and Adam. Would you let me, and Bill is like. Bill is way more helpful to the friends of dissidents who want to talk to Bill's like...

This sounds like interesting intel, but Ben and Adam will not be fielding your call. I have to terminate. Meanwhile, Janeway has FaceTime the leader of this planet. This planet called Rekosa V. And first Minister Kellen is the guy on the screen. He looks like a barnacle bin. He's got barnacle head.

He fell out of the top of the loaf tree and hit every branch on the way down. I can't believe this guy looks so different and yet exactly the same as every other alien of the week we've gotten. I think they did a great job with him. I think that when you cover up the ears, that just kind of makes the head look like a blob that is undifferentiatable from all other blob heads. Right. Boy, Janeway does a terrible job at the conversational order of operations, right? Yeah. To a stranger, you're seeing a ship with a bad reputation, flying next to a missile that's heading for your planet. And the very first thing the captain says isn't,

hey, this missile isn't something that we're in control of and then we fired at you. This missile is carrying a warhead with a significant destructive force. This is some sort of threat, Captain. Yeah, she really lets him come to the conclusion like, oh, this is a really shitty like Romulan style veiled threat. And why has the ship of death decided to come to our planet this week?

His paranoia is totally justified. Yeah. And you feel how much this hurts, Janeway. I think they did a good job of like this being one of the implications of the bad rep that they have unfairly earned in the D-quad. I like this as an ongoing concern for them. Yeah. The having to double the work during first contact every time.

These people have heard of you and they don't like you already. You're already behind. This is why the teenage mutant and the turtles need to hide in the sewer at them. They can't just live in the open. People wouldn't understand. That's the best and only reference for a moment like this. So they do as much as they can to reassure this guy. We're on it.

We're going to try everything we can to turn this missile off. We just wanted to make sure that you knew that we knew that you were scared and that we were on it. There's nothing evil about that. So they beam BLT over to this thing. The Vibertan directs this episode, Ben. And the transporter operator gets a very lingering shot on the extremely long pink email doing the transporting here. Yeah. This sort of stuff always sticks out to me because

this is clearly a single take we're moving on kind of vibe. Because of the way the sleeve catches on the panel, like it just, it doesn't look smooth. This entire process is not smooth at all, like it should be. What the shot is is it's of BLT on the pad, and then the camera tilts down to an ECU of the hand sliding up and down on the illuminated sliders on the controls. What's the first rule of this shot though?

It's don't make the hand operating the transporter a distraction. And it's a distraction in two different ways. It's a distraction in three different ways because it also doesn't get the timing of the light effect, right? The hand is down at the bottom before the lights finish their little sequence. And you're like, okay, so the sleeve caught, there's a Coke fingernail, and they didn't practice enough to get the timing right.

They need a chief obriot on the ship, really badly. I am Chief Miles Edward O'Brien. This is fucking spectacular. You're Leviar Burton, you're one of the great. Get another take. Cool shit. Yeah, but like we've said, he refused to take the visor off at this point in his career. He didn't notice any of that. It was like, do we have it? And the deep he was like, yeah, we got it. One choice that Levar Burton made this episode that I thought was really cool and good was how the interior of the Sion XB was lit. Yeah.

It was all lit practically and it was shot totally on steady cam. So all the fluorescence and stuff, all the panels that are throwing light in this scene. Those are the only lights on this set. So when BLT shows up, you're allowed to move the camera around the scene. This makes a day go extremely fast when you enough to light and relay your sequences here. You're just following BLT around as she's getting her job done. It's very efficient.

Yeah, you really get to explore the space and the thing that she kind of launches into with the ship, which is talking to her in her own voice. She reprogrammed it to speak in its master's voice. Identify target, Ashilane 5. It is convinced that it is on the same mission, that it was always on when it was in the a-quad, and it has identified this planet as being its original target because it cannot wrap its mind around the idea that it's nowhere near the a-quad.

BLT does not get enough shit for this. For reprogramming it in her own voice, right? I feel like any other character on the show would get a lot of shit for that. Yeah, Paris, they would have never stopped stomping his groin. Any other character on the show would get a lot of shit for that. Uh-huh. Yeah, Paris, they would have never stopped stomping as growing. No. Yeah. They would have built a new machine.

You would have been like a double kick drum style ball kicking machine. The heavy metal drummer ball kicking machine. She starts kind of playing logic games with it though, right? Yeah, they get into a conversational pattern. This is that is very non person talking to computer. It's very, very comfortable. It's a like, there's something wrong with you. And it's like, no, there isn't because I did a diagnostic. And it's like, well, did you check to make sure your diagnostics were all in order?

It's a computer that kind of understands attitude too. Yeah. And this goes well enough that she is able to convince this thing to shut itself off, but we get enough time here to get a sense of what a tricky motherfucker this computer can be. And it shuts down. Big victory. She beams over and she's like, this is great.

I don't think enough is made of BLT's voice, embodying the antagonist of this episode. Because with the amount of time that you and I spend with our own inner monologues tormenting us, the idea that the missile is BLT's voice and it's the bad guy throughout, like yeah, that's not a part of this story in a way that it could be like like BLT could be going crazy by what happens later on and it's just a pure engineering problem for her to solve. And not a mental torture that it could be. Do you think that they shied away from steering it in that direction in order to avoid it

feeling too much like human BLT, Klingon BLT. Like, was that the episode where they like spent that round and then with this episode, I mean, it's obviously tempting, but like, did they feel like they couldn't ring the bell again? It makes a ton of sense. Yeah, I mean. I love that, read though, like, cause that'd be fascinating if it was the voice second guessing every choice inside her head. BLT is such an interesting character. There's that comp, but there's also the comp that just happened,

where BLT fixes a robot person. And it ends up trying to kill them. Like, this is another version of that too. There seems to be some derivation of the same stories having to do with BLT here that maybe they're doing their best to avoid straight ripping off in that way. Yeah. I don't know. Coffee black, make it yourself. I'm trying to help you see this as an opportunity to grow. Make it yourself. Well, she gets back to the ready room and she's talking to Chico Te and the captain.

She's like, this went fucking great. Like, we're gonna be able to strip this thing for parts. There's, there's, any matter, there's photon torpedoes, like there's tons of stuff over here that we could be retrofitting our ship with. There's coffee in that salvage operation. And it may get a little bit deep space 90 with the Cardassian ship being clamped

onto the Federation ship, but it's been done. Yeah, we had seven good seasons. Stuff like that. Yeah, we brought a book of documentation written by Chifo Bryan, goes written by ROM. That's great. So this this moment of excitement about all of the new shit they're gonna get Evaprate really quickly in a way that felt very familiar to me Paris to Janeway Yes, lieutenant the missile just took off Paris is woken up at his station by this thing going to warp nine Yeah, jokes we're not getting a resupply and the missile was tricking BLT into beaming away. It deceived her the entire time. Yeah, it doesn't recognize her commands anymore. She can't just beam over there like she did before. This thing is like AI, but evil AI.

It's evil AI. This is some sky-netched. It's a looting computer. They drop two photons on this thing and it does nothing. And I was like, man, if they can stop this thing and get whatever is controlling the shields. The shields alone. Yeah, the shields alone of a high dollar value.

For sure. And it's weird like when the missile hails them. Yeah. That's creepy as hell. And it hails them with BLT's voice. This is the moment, Ben, where BLT should be compromised mentally. She should be starting to freak out here.

Yeah, what if she hadn't told them that she'd done that? And then in this moment, it's the reveal. And she has to be like standing in the corner of the bridge, like, ugh, um, so, remember when Chico Te said, we sent it on a thing? This is some broccoli in the holodeck style of shame here.

Like, when this is outed. Right. And the missile's paranoid. Missile is paranoid. It's telling Voyager to stand down. It's identified Voyager as a Federation vessel and it's saying like, I'm a make-waste missile and I'm going to kill some cardacians and there's nothing you can do and stop me so you better fuck off. I love BLT going back to the playbook she used in the earlier scene on the bridge where she

halls off and kicks Kim in the jump. She's like, like, she gets totally embarrassed by the missile speaking in her voice and she like looks around at the rest of the bridge group. She's like, I programmed it to do that. That was me. This is actually a good thing for me. Yeah. The missile has decided that it must be,

that she is being coerced by a Cardassian forces. She's like the cops in the major crimes unit in the dark night. You know? I like how Janeway kind of steps in front of BLT here. Like I know Missle you hailed BLT, but I'm actually the captain. So listen here, is there any way that we can put you in the driver's seat of a Delta Quadrant today? And the missile is like, no fucking way. I don't give a shit about the Delta Quadrant that's not where I believe that I am. Yeah. I'm going to blow up this planet real big that I'm headed toward.

The missile has this frustrating thing that we see all the time in politics, which is somebody that is a thousand percent sure of their world view but totally unwilling to Consider any information that might undermine that world view. Yeah, so they're like we're a Federation vessel not a cardassian vessel. We're in the Delta quadrant. This is a low information missile Ben really is like Undeniably talented at the art of debate, but actually full of shit when it comes to the facts. Janeways like, alright, it's time to shoot this thing again.

She shoots a couple of photons first and then a tacky on beam, the idea being that she can damage this thing into stopping into allowing BLT to beaming back on, perhaps. Yeah. Except this missile, like so many other targets, smart targets anyway, when you lock something on with a beam, that actually puts you in danger as the beamer, right? Because it leaves you open to something coming back up the beam at you, and that's what happens to the Voyager here, the missile, send something back up the beam. The Voyager atom is bemused.

That's good. The Voyager has shot its seventh photon torpedo. I don't remember how many we had before, but if we're not going to have a thing at the bottom showing how close the Voyager is to Federation Space, can we at least have, like, in the lower right hand corner, like the ammo read out in a shoot-em-up game? Yeah, like torpedoes. This is the century guns and aliens. Ben, I know this. Yeah, like like torpedoes that was century guns and aliens. Yeah.

Ben, I know this. This is one of the few things that I remember about this show. 38 torpedoes is what the ship had. So 31 by the end of this. It's so crazy. This is bad. And no one thinks about it. 20% of their torpedoes gone.

So Captain Janeway's strategy of taking the FaceTime into her office is a good one. Yeah. When she talks to Kellyn after this, she's like, uh, got some bad news. It's on a collision course with a train full of kids on a field trip. Poor Kellyn has come to grips with the reality of their circumstance. And as feudal as it is, he's like, you know, I have heard in situations where there is no hope of victory. What you want to do is meet the enemy ship

a little further away from its target, kind of a wolf 359 strategy is what I'm going to deploy. So I'm going to send a fleet out there to meet the missile and hopefully that'll buy us some time. That's the plan. And Janeway's like, I appreciate the ref, but I don't know if you've read the second half of the wolf 359 story. And let's just say the battle does not go well. Yeah, there's the new testament of that story. Admiral Hansen wrote the Old Testament

of the book of full three, five, nine. You really wanna read the new testament to get the full picture of things. It has been by Benjamin Sisco. Yeah. And first minister, Kellen has really been burning the loaf at both ends He's he is tired and punchy and not really open to

That critique so he's not gonna wait for BLT to solve this problem He's gonna he's gonna work on solving it himself in the transporter room. They've replaced the the pinky nail They've replaced the pinky nail transporter operator with Ensign Kim, who BLT just gets extremely frustrated with when he can't beam her over. And I mean, he finally does, but it does take two flushes to send her down to the missile, which is a scene that I really love.

Yeah, he really pranikas her I love this because this is something that you make in the edit right? I'm not sure this was even on the page, but but you've got the footage You can just do a shot reverse shot. Yeah for the second flush and and back on the dreadmatt Goes BLT. Yeah And back on the DreadMot, goes BLT. Yeah. It's time to get down to business and she steps to the first computer and the screen just shuts off.

It's a real game of cat and computer like the DreadMot. Yeah. And like she even like opens up a panel and tries to pull out some honey sticks. It was very fun to see all this like Cardassian tech shit reprised for this episode. Yeah, like that too. All the screens and stuff.

Yeah, she gets a little caco lightning out of the honey sticks. Yeah, this is like the the Wapper in Wargames if the Wapper like could actually fight back with electric shocks. She finds a panel that the Whopper is not thinking about though and pulls that and starts pulling out big pieces of Lexan with computer chip graphics printed on them.

Yeah, it's good stuff. It's the sort of stuff that you could bid on in an online auction and pay less than $100 for. Yeah, absolutely. I feel like those are more like you're entered to win one just for signing up to enter the auction. Yeah, her digging in those computer guts gets interrupted by the recosion fleet though.

Wolf 359 is now. Yeah. This is a great heightening because it kind of dawns on her what a bloodbath it's gonna be if she can't get this fucking missile to turn off and it's scary. It's a lot of ships. It's 15 ships or something and they are there no match like they're way less sophisticated of military ships than even the Voyager. Yeah, I mean, once you see those dats disappear on that screen full of dats, the reality of

the situation really hits home. Those ships aren't your enemy. They are not Cardassian. Can you recognize that? Like, the Voyager is basically like walking around the Delta Quadrant with a Swiss Army knife in its pocket, and everybody they meet is like, wow, we don't walk around concealed carrying like you. So we're a little bit unable to step to this missile in the same way that a warlike species like you at Janeway's always like I mainly use this to open bottles at barbecues and people's backyards.

I don't, the knife comes out occasionally when an Amazon box comes with a lot of tape on it, but it's mostly, mostly like a toothpick and a bottle opener. That's a swiss army knife that should be available to people. It's super, super thin. It's super, super thin. It's super, super thin. Yeah, I would honestly consider that being my Swiss Army knife of choice.

Listen, everybody knows I'm a super tinker man. I do occasionally use the little miniature scissor. And I get the super tinker with the Phillips head, not the one with the, not the one with the corkscrew. Your tinker toothpick bottle opener spy. That's what you are. Right, got to get that, lock them, get that all-better lodgeman.

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cyan xb limousine. They only fitted one guy for the barnacle loaf but there's a scene when when janeway hails the lead the lead fighter pilot and he's like we're not standing down for anyone. He came there, motherfucker do something, and we can fucking do it, all right?

And he totally porkens himself. Yeah. Five seconds later. Five seconds later, he's yelling they came from behind. And they cut back to the command center on the, on the forest moon and everybody just everybody just you know does one of those takes like God damn it. We lost another one. Yeah, a half a dozen recotions cried out in terror and were immediately silenced in this scene. The recotion ships finally retreat. They do not want to take any more casualties than they already have.

They do not want to take any more casualties than they already have. Yeah. Like the Voyagers, like, like, Janeway is ordering them to like, just throw everything they have at the Dreadnought to try and distract it from killing Ricotians and... Everything besides more torpedoes. We've really burned a lot of those today. Actually, oh, they do shoot at least one torpedo in that city. We can afford to launch more shuttlecraft.

Just shoot shuttlecraft at the missile. Save the torpedoes. Yeah. The Dreadnought starts to scramble BLT's communications. Now that there's no upside in listening to what she's saying to the ship. And it also pretty quickly turns off life support, which means she's gonna have kind of a ticking clock.

At every turn, the stakes get higher. This is the beginning of some sweaty loaf. Yeah. And so she's like, okay, let's go back to that thing we were doing at the beginning, the logic games. Like, maybe that is the solution. If they missled the size of a Chrysler building, left the Alpha Quadrant at 1400 hours going at 4.6 toward the Badlands.

And a caretaker sucked it into the door. At what point does Jicote Shuttle reach Starbase 80? Yeah. She finds something weird in the computer though. And, um, tax documents. Yeah. She finds that folder. Why are there so many honeysticks in this part of the computer? It's very wet. Nothing else in your documents folder is more than a couple of megabytes and then this

tax documents folder is like three or four terabytes and what? The fuck could be so big, it's all like cell spreadsheets and stuff, right? Like a couple of PDFs from charitable contributions? Sure. And the dreadnoughts like, no, you do not need to look at that. High-specifetical game terminated. We cannot let anyone see what's inside

the text documents folder. So it doubles down on her. She is under the sway of the Cardassians or something. And it is, I'm about to die eyes to commercial. This tax documents folder comes up later as a thing she wants to look at. This might be the secret to rebooting the computer. But she's running out of air. I mean sometimes when you're looking at tax documents and affected airway can kind of make the numbers more exciting. If you know what I'm

saying. Yeah. I mean you can really get into a pivot table in a new and exciting way if the airway is compromised. But she's really getting up on her high horse about the tax documents, much like a druish princess who also might lose all of her air. Spaceballs, the reference. So Janeway has to place that uncomfortable call of like, Hey, so your planet is about to get nuked and I don't really think there's much we can do about it. Like our our girl is still over there and maybe she'll come through, but I just want you to know that we're kind of out of ideas. Yeah, as a gesture of goodwill, I mean,

I could destroy the ship. Do you really think that would work? And he's like, I mean, I knew that you were called the ship of death, but I didn't really think that it was like as total a definition as that. I didn't think it would involve your death, just specifically. Well, your death was a problem that happened

because of time travel and also interdimensional travel. But this would just be, yeah, this would just be the Voyager's death. Your death also very painful. Yeah, clearly. She's got a friend in him, but he about to die. And so she starts to put plans in place for a self-destruct. And I think

this maybe, is this the first time we've seen Voyager self-destruct as a thing on the table? I mean, at Star Trek Law, you need to set AutoDistruct within the first two seasons of any Star Trek series. They had to do it at some point before the end of season two and here we are I love auto-destruct scenes Love them every time they're fucking great and yeah There's a great like moment in the bridge where she kind of goes Into the corner where she goes in to Vakar and she's like hey guys I'm about to blow up the ship. Make sure nobody panics.

Let's be super chill and get everybody to the escape pods. I'm gonna do it, okay? Look, when they did this on the D, it was a bunch of fucking kids and arms dropping teddy bears all over the place. We need this one tight and orderly. No bears on the ground. Picard is a fucking amateur when it comes to dropping the self-destruct hammer.

He made it look like a moral crime. My moral crime comes later in this season right now. I'm all about preventing the deaths of two million recotions or whatever the people are on that planet down there. All right, so just get everybody off the bridge. Just be super chill. I like that this is an odd-of-distract ASMR like. Too vuck. I'm about to blow up the ship. I'm gonna blow up our fucking warp core. Just all over this fucking cyan XB. Never gonna see it coming. Okay, but first I'm gonna crumple up my orders from Starfleet because they're just they're just printed out on a piece of paper and we're in the Delta quadruon.

I've been meaning to do this but just I want to In two vach, two vachaline into this mic. I rub those ears into the... You feel how smooth this panel is? You hear that? That's squeak? That's nice. BLT is tearing the insides of the dreadnought apart.

She's got like copper cables pulled out everywhere. She's... She's hot wiring this sion for sure. Yeah, yeah. And it's not going well. She's trying everything, but eventually she gets a door to open. Yes. And it's a door to a Jeffries tube.

This is a Sion XB with different compartments. This felt so much like the end of 2001 for me. I thought for sure we were going to hear BLT's voice sing Daisy until it died. This felt like the setup right on down to like what she's looking at. She's looking at a panel with these these twinkly lights and rumbov yeah it felt very Kubrickian it did it was it was a real war games Kubrick mashup yeah I thought at least we would get BLT voice going like I just want to draw the red reds to make these calls. Yeah, I mean half of the fun of destroying a computer full of tax documents is like

hearing the voice slow down into a monstrous, rubby, scary, vocal situation. Yeah, why didn't they do that? I think that would have been too direct a reference to 2001, I think is why. So she is in that Jeffries to phasering open a compartment. It's gonna take a while for her to cut through. Janeway kicks everybody off the bridge, but Tuvac persuades her to let him stay.

Just in case she needs him. And it's really like a game of chicken, like who's going to win the phaser beam into the warp core of the dreadnought, or is it going to have to be the warp core of Voyager that goes off? This is the second time where the crew of the Voyager has just been ready to die and like willing and excited to die even because you remember that scene in Sounddreams where everyone was like all right this is it let's just sit down and hold each other's hands. If I'm Janeway, Let's just sit down and hold each other's hands. If I'm Janeway, I would be concerned about my crew's willingness to mail it in at this point.

I mean, she's tested them, right? She's like, they are willing to let me go down with the ship. They're willing to engage in a game of corbriage chicken. We can do this. Corbreech chicken, we can do this. Nothing gets me like a subordinate thanking a captain for the opportunity to die in a scene like this because when Janeway orders came off the bridge in Paris too, like Paris has that moment,

like disheveled Paris can't find a comb, but he finds it in his heart to think Janeway for the opportunity. And Toovac in his own right is like, I am not going to be a refugee on a planet living with Nelix. I would rather be atomized in orbit. We get that fun beam out, right? The dreadnought explodes. Yeah. We find out that BLT has materialized, and then the EMH beamed her right over into six

bay. She totally forgot that he was there. Like a pizza left on the porch. The EMH just takes it. Yeah. Right on into his own home. Which is why the EMH still occasionally gets weird tweets. Like, I think you did a bad thing. Yeah. Well, the thing about that is a BLT would have gone bad

in the transport room. Right. Yeah. Had she not been directly beamed to Six Bay. You saw the pepperoni on her face when we cut down to Six Bay. That was getting ready to turn. I mean, this is like editing for comedy, right? This is a thing that people may or may not be familiar with based on our show. But I think these three credits on the show have power.

And where they come in, especially, you can punctuate a show well or poorly based on on where they come in. And when Janeway cancels auto-destruct and orders the escape pods brought back, we basically cut to those three credits. And there is no breath between those two moments. Yeah, it's breathless at them. It's 11 pounds of episode and a 10 pound bag. Ben, did you like the episode? I really did. I thought I think you have some interesting points about the you know voice in your head thing being an opportunity perhaps missed for BLT's character, but I think this is a really interesting episode. It's a unique Star Trek problem.

Yeah. And, you know, taking inspiration from things like war games and 2001, but making a unique and super Star Trek-y episode out of it is a great idea. And it's really well written for voyage or in particular. And I don't know what Studio Head is impervious to a pitch that just goes like 2001 war games unstoppable. Yeah. That's the pitch. It's a fun episode to me. Yeah.

Did you like it? I have a real soft spot in my heart for Unstoppable. I think that movie is so much fun. That's a great movie. I think all TV series should have an Unstoppable episode. And I loved experiencing the Voyager version of that. I think there's something unusual about the track order of this season though, and I'm wondering if by the time we get to the end

of season two we might not have some thoughts about that. This feels out of place in a season. It feels too close to the other BLT episodes that we've gotten recently, and it is kind of a bottle episode here. Unless, I mean, the secret mole on the crew, notwithstanding. Yeah. I like the episode a lot on the whole, but I don't know. I think you need to traumatize BLT more by her own voice. Just don't understand why you don't do that here.

Especially with all the work, like Roxanne Dawson put in a ton of work, like playing Double Duty in this episode. Yeah. Pay it off. Pay off the work. Do you think she gets paid twice to play Dreadnought and BLT? Is this clumping? I don't know. Yeah, is she clumping? Is this cow? Is that what's going on? I'm? How much I did really love being back inside something cardassian. That was fun. Yeah, the use of the sounds and stuff took me back to DeepBase9. Yeah, so I think there's a lot to like this episode for sure. And a lot of unusual paths not taken. unusual at path snap taken yeah it's a well Adam do you want to see if there are any path nuts taken in our priority one inbox we always take this path right into

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Glor explains to Chief Miles O'Brien that Cardassians view antagonism as flirting. That makes Captain Gellico's treatment of the Cardassians in the Ready Room. Much more interesting. Was he flirting with them? We know he is an expert on the cardies, something to ponder.

I love this theory, Colin. You know, I don't wanna tell Colin to get a life at all. I would like it too, except for Colin only addressed it to you. And I'm like, what the fuck, Colin, do you think I don't enjoy theories? You think I'm just here to fucking take up space? You only address your P1 to Adam? What the fuck Colin? Famous theory hater Benjamin R Harrison. I think Colin stands Adam on the greatest generation. I take great umbrage with this.

I get it. I get it. I get it. I get it. Was he flirting with them? Is the question. I will answer that question. No, he was not. I'm mad that you tried to answer it. I don't think Jellico has a lot of self-awareness in those episodes. So I mean as much as I love a Ronnie Cox, Ronnie Cox, one of the great non-porn names in all a Star Trek. Yeah, I don't think he was flirting. And I'd love to know Ben's thoughts on the issue, but you didn't ask. Yeah, I'm not gonna share them. I really feel like Riker being asked to set up a 4-shift rotation right now. Like that's how she used I feel. So I'm just gonna I'm gonna stay silent on this matter. Ben our final priority one message of the

episode is from Victoria It is to Sean. The message goes like this happy birthday to my favorite person. Thank you for introducing me to Star Trek. Even Enterprise. Wow. Loving you is my prime directive. Wow. The requested date on this band is April 19th, 2020. And now what day is it today? I think we could go behind the pot a little bit. Were you recording this on August the 24th? 2021. Yeah. I mean, you didn't buy this in 2021. Okay, there's a note from the network here. The note from the network says this was purchased on March 23rd, 2021. That 2020 date must be a typo. Wow.

Alright, so it's not quite as bad of a look for us as it could have been, but it's still a pretty bad look. We're bad at this. We're getting through these. We're getting through the best we can. We have special dispensation to read up to three P1s per episode if one of them is a is a We need to talk less about us and more about Sean here Sean Sean is having a very belated birthday. Yeah, Sean and Victoria here Sean went through months and months thinking Victoria totally blew it on his birthday. Who suffered more though?

I might argue the Victoria did Victoria is drumming their fingers, wondering when this P1's gonna drop. And eventually it does, how many months later? Like five months later. I can't do any math. Victoria, you did great. You did everything you could. Sean.

Happy birthday, Sean. Everyone wishes you a happy birthday. No one doesn't do that. Yeah. If there's anybody out there that doesn't wishes you a happy birthday. No one doesn't do that. Yeah. If there's anybody out there that doesn't wish, uh, Sean a happy birthday, you know where the door is. Yeah. The fuck out of here. If you'd like to leave a priority on message on the program,

head to maximumfund.org slash jumbo, Sean. Yeah. Look, they might be late, but they're getting done. They're getting done as fast as we can do, am I right? They're getting done as well and as fast. I think we're doing a great job. Hey Adam. Oh, what's that been? Did you find yourself a drunk Shimoda?

I'm Adam! Drunk Shimoda! I mean, I've ever designed this missile. Ha ha ha. What are the things that we know that are cardacian? We've seen the cardacian ships. We have an understanding of what those look like. We know what cardacian stations look like.

Almost look like a totally different designer with the spikes, the pylons and whatnot. I just, this Chrysler building missile. I think this suffers from a lack of imagination. Perhaps even a drunken imagination. Wow. The thing about the atom bomb is that, is that like the OG one,

is that it looked like a cartoon bomb. I don't really do. I kind of wanted something more cartoonish here, like something threatening. Yeah. But this thing looks like an airport tram. I did not like it. It's like if an airport tram and like Ben Shapiro and the Chrysler building in a Sion XB stretched limousine. Like if there were like a family crest to this missile, those would be the four quadrants, right? It's got a Sion XB rampant. Yeah, it's a main character of this episode.

And I think I'm just gonna make the Shimoda the missile. Wow. It just kind of looks out of place. It's not working for me. The missile's my Shimoda. What about you Ben? The character that gets the least to do in this episode Adam is Nielix barely in it

Is he in it at all? He is in the Mgloflin group that Tom Paris shows up too late and we get one tight shot of Nielix of Nelix, of Nelix reacts when Tom Peris shows up late. And I think Ethan Phillips made great choices about how much Nelix would enjoy Tom Peris fucking up at work in front of everyone. Yeah. Yeah. Guess who's morale Nelix does not care about. It really he really like does a good job of the subtle oh this is so tasty. Yeah, that is a that's a conscious moment. Yeah, so Nelix is my charmote for this episode.

Hey Ethan Phillips, good week at the office that week. Get him to make up for a single day. That'll do. Objection noted, we'll do this without you. Get through to it. Get through to it. Do it. Well, you know what else we'll do, Adam, is a role of the dice at the game of buttholes, the will of the caretaker. I'm going to head over there to Gach.biz right now.

Gach.biz slash game, and while you're doing that, I will read the description of Season 2 Episode 18, Death Wish. I like this title already. A Rebel Q escapes from incarceration and demands asylum on Voyager so he can commit suicide. Your name in episode death wish. You better be ready to stir Charles Bronson. John Delancey in the role of Charles Bronson. You're required to learn as you play, role.

I run about the zone square 20. Just a single square ahead his eyes uncovered. A few squares after that is a banger. Hold that bone, Chuck. Alright Ben, I've rolled a four. A LEMORAY! You know what that means. We hit the banger again?

We can't get past this fucking banger! We hit the banger again? We can't get past this fucking banger. We hit the banger again. We're back on Square 19. God damn it! Oh! Why? We're never gonna get out of this room. We're stuck!

God fucking damn it. Adam, you roll ones all that we could have had a perfectly fun episode doing. This is a Marion Metaphors. This is like, this is like me at the Crap's table with Danny and Ben Fritz at Star Trek Las Vegas. This is me just getting my shit kicked in. Covering over again. Walking dammit. Yeah.

Back to square 19 regular old episode. That's the good news. The bad news, we're never leaving the second row of the game of buttholes. I would be fine with that if we were oscillating between squares 11 and 12. Right. Yeah, it's just that.

So go no nose and chill hangs. There's a go-go no no and a quarks bar on the second row and-no-nos and chill hangs. There's a go-go-no-no and a quark's bar on the second row And we haven't hit either of them and we're now fucking back on night fucking team. I blame Philippe Sobriero Craig Anderson and Andrew Wang Hoyer for this. They made this fucking game Feel like an asshole right now. I mean we invented the game. They just made it look good. Yeah Well, there you go. A fun regular episode for the Chuck Branson ep to come.

Just replete with Death Wish drops. I'm going to predict. Yeah, it's going to be brutal. We should just watch Death Wish. Yeah. You know what would blow some fucking minds? Is if instead of the voyage episode, Death Wish, we did an episode of Greatest Generation

about the Charles Bronson movie, Death Wish. Mm-hmm. How many people would leave the show? Oh, I'd say it would be in the 90%ile kind of range. Let's fucking do it. I'd say it would be in the 90%ile kind of range. Let's fucking do it. Let's put out the two-hour super episode where we do the Voyager episode Death Wish and then after the credits roll.

It's a special, greatest generation after dark. Death Wish, the Chuck Bronson movie. And then after the credits roll on that, we do Death Wish, the extremely regrettable Bruce Willis movie. Oh no. I mean, look, if it gets the Chuck Bronson death wish done, I mean, I mean for the whole thing. Wow.

Well, we'll have to talk about that after we hang up the mics today, Adam. See what we're up for next week. But in the meantime, people that enjoy the program can support us in a bunch of ways. We'd really appreciate a nice review on Apple Podcasts. That's a great way to get the word out about the show. Another great way is just to recommend it to a friend or a colleague or a loved one or subscribe to it on your grandma's phone. She's not going to notice. Stuff like that really makes a big difference because if you can get a new subscriber to Greatest Gen and the Greatest Gen Family of Products, think of how many downloads that is. We've done like about 500 episodes of Greatest Gen and the Greatest Gen Family of Products. Think of how many downloads that is. We've done like about 500 episodes of Greatest Gen.

Yeah. Between Greatest Generation and Greatest Discovery. So they might download two or even three episodes before they're like, ugh, fuck this. I know. It really moves the needle for us and it helps a lot. It does. Um, this show is brought to you by the friends of DeSoto who go to MaximumFun.org

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That's a place where you and I have been known to do Q&A's just randomly. Yeah. I was wasting time the other day when I should have been editing to do Q&A's just randomly. Yeah, I was Wasting time the other day when I should have been editing and I went in there and and fucked around for like 45 minutes and I had a great time. I read but you wrote about me Fuck you man. I don't even remember. I was drunk No, that's I think that's the best way to do a Q&A. I did my Q&A over on the Discord Drunk also. Nice. We also, there's also a wikia. You how to cook over at YouTube's channel. Look at what you're reading. Starting Adam Ragusey.

Look at that. Ew. Gross. I mean, it's fine. It's fine. Is it? Go over to... Are you satisfied with it?

Go to Adam Ragusey's YouTube page. Maybe see how the other half lives. The other Ragusia's of the world cook their food. This guy's like precipitating salt crystals out of vodka and shit. And he's fucking ripped and good looking. Like it's not just that he has a hyper-popular YouTube channel. Like, hate Adam McGuisey. But he made the music for this show so we can't hate him that much.

I know. It's jealousy. It's jealousy again. The green-eyed Adam of jealousy. We also got to appreciate dark material that made the Picard song that you're listening to right now. And with that, we will be back at you next time with another great episode, Star Trek Voyager, an episode of the greatest generation Voyager that is like maybe horny or food the captain then it has ever been before can you do that is Bronson do you have a Bronson?

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