The Greatest Generation - Tour Diaper (DS9 S4E10)

Episode Date: April 29, 2019

When changelings bomb a diplomatic conference, Ben Sisko heads to Earth to try to prevent a war. But when it turns out his own father looks like Admiral Cartwright, the Khitomer vibes really get out o...f control. Is Dax prank-flirting with Odo? Is religion a good topic of conversation for the workplace? How did they convince the assholes to leave Earth? It’s the episode that can’t decide whether it’s grieving or doing bits. Follow The Game of Buttholes: The Will of the Prophets! Support the production of The Greatest Generation.

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Starting point is 00:00:00 Priority 1 message from Starfleet coming in on Secured Channel. Hey friends of Disodo. Before today's episode, we just wanted to take a moment to talk about the historic labor actions being taken by writers and actors in the American Film and Television industry. If you're a fan of the work done by the people who make Star Trek, we hope you'll join us in standing in solidarity with the folks who actually bring these adventures to life. Over the past several years, the AMPTP, the organization that represents the American Film and Television Production Studios, have reduced the profit from movies and TV going to workers. And in so doing,
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Starting point is 00:02:36 in order to make a Star Trek podcast. I'm Ben Harrison. I'm Adam Pranica. It's by choice though. Yeah. I mean the point of the game is that we want to have consequences that could potentially come up. I never used to be the type of person that like planned their day around getting drunk. Yeah. But this show has occasionally made me have to do that.
Starting point is 00:03:03 Like I feel like I've had to prepare my body almost as if I were like preparing for an evening, like a romantic evening with my wife. So you trimmed your pubes to record today? I shaved my bush. I worked out this morning. I ate super clean today. Yeah. I I'm wearing loose fitting clothing right now Boy, you want to know what I've eaten? Turned down the lights low. I went out to Korean barbecue last night
Starting point is 00:03:35 I had a piece of banana bread for breakfast this morning and then for lunch I had a piece of pizza and a burrito And then for lunch, I had a piece of pizza and a burrito. It's got in a very different direction from you, Montfraire. Well, I mean, by clean, I won't say that I ate kind of a lot of pasta. Like what I wanted to do, I wanted to do a lot like what I think you were trying to do, like lay down a good layer. Yeah. To catch what we're about to do to it. Soap up what we're about to pour on it.
Starting point is 00:04:09 Yeah, if you're just now tuning in randomly, we, uh, we have, You've never listened to the show before. We have, we have planned. This is probably going to be a typical episode. We are, uh, we are power-ouring this episode, which means a shadow beer every minute for the duration of the episode portion of the show. Well, it's for an hour. We don't have to keep going after an hour, do we? Is that not how we... Oh yeah, I think the last time we did a power hour, we stopped after the hour. So that's smart. That's just common sense. Taking care of ourselves.
Starting point is 00:04:48 Yeah. It's an embarrassing thing to have become a part of life for us though. Like my wife got off work early today and she was like, hey, I'm coming home early. And I said, oh, that's exactly what a wife wants to hear too when she says that. I said, do you have plans for the afternoon and lieu of work? And she said, I don't know. I mean, there's some errands I could get done. So I explained to her what is going to happen to me today. I said, when you get back from going and taking some clothes
Starting point is 00:05:24 to the thrift store and getting an afterwork drink with your friend, you will come home to a husband who is stupendously drunk. I feel a great amount of empathy for you, Ben. I think I dodged a bullet because my wife is away on a work trip. Oh, she heard what you were about to do in left town. She left me, Ben. The consequences were far more grave.
Starting point is 00:05:55 Yeah, so after the episodes over, I can just curl up into a ball at the foot of my chair and wait for morning. What are you going to be doing this with Adam? You got a particular type of beer, a moulinche. I've got a mess of Modello with specials that will be my beverage of choice and I have enough to get me through the whole episode. So that's...
Starting point is 00:06:17 That sounds nice. I'm hoping I don't ruin a very good beer on this. Sometimes you have a binge session and you don't want that beer anymore for a while, so. Yeah, yeah, I've been there. Now, what about you? I'm drinking L. Sully, which is also a Mexican style logger. It's made here in the USA by the 21st Amendment brewery.
Starting point is 00:06:40 I would compare it favorably to Modelo Espicio. Is that going to drop some more I.B.U.s or percentage of alcohol on youth and? It's a 4.8. What are you working with? Did I misspeak when I said I.B.U. what was I talking about? I assumed you were just talking about international business units. Oh, yeah. Oh, 4.5 is what I'm seeing. Okay. So not terribly. I'm not terribly higher than that. No. No. You're doing great.
Starting point is 00:07:17 Well, I'm excited to get to it. What do you say, Ben? Why don't we dive right in? You know the rules. It's about every minute we will be drinking a shot of beer. And here's the thing, because we edit these episodes, you may detect a change of pace to when these shots occur. Don't worry about it. I don't know if I got the burps. Yeah. Yeah, we're making this as good of a show as as is possible
Starting point is 00:07:42 under the circumstances as we prepare to bring you the Mornhammered version of Deep Space 9. Season 4, Episode 10. Homefront. Cheers to you Ben. Cheers buddy. Incredible this is. Ah! Ah! Ah! No, of course you don't. The wormhole is winking and no one knows why.
Starting point is 00:08:10 Yeah, it's opening and closing. Like inviting them in, but then closes at the last minute. Ben, I should tell you what muscle memory we're working with here. After I took my beer shot, I went straight for the bottle and started drinking again. I Need to concentrate. Yeah, that's that is not what we're doing here We can't gabress ourselves. No No, and it's kind of a mystery right everyone's looking out the window like it's beautiful to watch this at work But the mystery involved is troubling.
Starting point is 00:08:47 It seems to be opening and closing completely at random. I thought it was interesting that they're observing this from the promenade and not from the bridge. Like they're not looking at this as, oh, do a shot. They're not looking at this as like an emergent situation. It's an obstacle level concern, right? Dex and Cisco are just having a walk around and it seems like a curiosity that a lot of people are interested in, but they don't think about it much past that.
Starting point is 00:09:16 Is the defiance still fucked up? Is that why they have to take this other ship back to Earth? I don't know. They also never show the other ship. Yeah. The Lakota, right? Right. Yeah, we don't we don't ever see it I looked up the Lakota and the Lakota is a USS Hood class starship. Oh, man. I would have loved to see it Why didn't they show us that?
Starting point is 00:09:37 Is the hood a class? Well, I just call it that the hoods are excelsior class. Yeah That's a chill ship. I wonder, I mean, the Lakota seems like a pretty chill ship too. Yeah, yeah. Do you think all Excel Cere class ships are chill? I mean, Enterprise B wasn't chill. Do a shit. I just did.
Starting point is 00:09:57 Yeah, but the Enterprise B was like a variant on the Excel Cere class, I think. It had those hips. Oh, yeah. Those hips didn't lie that it's an Excelsior refit. Yeah. Um, God, I just did it again. Why am I just drinking beer? It's going to be a problem.
Starting point is 00:10:15 You're going to be a mess. Yeah. We also get a thing in this episode that I hate, which is Star Trek implying that a joke was told, but not having the courage of its convictions to actually write a joke. There's a close up shot with Quark and Morn, and Quark finishes his joke. Then the Andorian says,
Starting point is 00:10:37 that's not my antenna. Morn does not think this is funny. And neither do we, because we can't possibly know what the joke is, given that we only know the punchline. Yeah, but Quark can't explain the logic of his joke. He can't dissect the frog because Odo's showed up when he's quite cross with dax and quark. Odo's pissed because someone keeps breaking into his quarters and moving his furniture while he's regenerating. What a hilarious prank.
Starting point is 00:11:10 He kind of buries the lead because he's way upset about the furniture movement, but he's super okay with the idea of someone breaking into his apartment. I think they're both equally bad and I would argue that the break in is worse. Does he live in the enterprise section of town where the locks on the doors don't work? I don't know. It does bring to mind an interesting question. Like, Odo does not appear to have any awareness when he's regenerating.
Starting point is 00:11:40 Like you could just walk into his place and take all of his shit if you wanted. He's unconscious. There are no eyes on top of the goobucket. No. And the, and the disruption that he's describing is that the, the objects in his apartment are being moved militically. Like it's kind of like John Roderick's torture dungeon that he devised for the,
Starting point is 00:12:02 uh, the members of the Bush administration where he just changes the angles of the walls slightly. Yeah, he's being gasoline, but to what end? You know what else feels like being gasoline, Ben? You and I entering into a business and show arrangement with John Roderick. Hahaha. Hahaha. John Roderick with whom we will be going on tour soon. That's right.
Starting point is 00:12:30 Uh, we're gonna be taking the friendly fire podcast, uh, to five cities. Check out friendlyfire.fm slash live. Little plug. Yeah, who knows when we'll take greatest Jen out. This might be your only chance to see us. So come see us. Yeah, come see us. So all of these laughs been like everyone's having a great time telling jokes, moving furniture,
Starting point is 00:12:50 what you want to do is introduce a terror attack where 27 people are killed on Earth. Like, great on the heels. I remember what pranks were being done to me when 9-11 happened. The elastic band of my underwear was like just reaching the top of my head when the second tower fell. What's so fucked up is that the pranker saw the first tower fall and then went in for the wedgie. Kept going, yeah. Pushed my head deeper into the toilet. saw the first tower fall and then went in for the wedges. Yep, kept going. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:13:25 Push my head deeper into the toilet. Yeah. Never forget that day. Yeah. And that like that is like such a weird element of the tone of this episode. Right. Because they go up and like there's been a mass murder on earth. First attack of its kind in over a hundred years,
Starting point is 00:13:46 it's a planet wide day of mourning. It is like a major heavy deal. And yet nobody seems devastated. There's like so Odo goes up to Ops because he's the one that's called there, right? Like he's through investigating the... We're gonna need you in O ops. He goes up there where everyone has already gathered and he's like, Hey guys, what's going on? Oh, by the way, have you
Starting point is 00:14:12 heard about this fucked up thing happening in my apartment? Curious like not now, there's been an incident. And it's like that kind of trope, right? There's been an incident. And that's how he's told of what has happened on Earth. Constable Tegaseed. Of course. Did you catch the time index when they played the video back? No. It's computer-begin relay at... Time index 5, 9, 11. Oh no. Really? Yeah. No weird. Wow. No, weird. Wow. This episode premiered New Year's Day, 1996. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:14:48 It's pretty wild. Yeah. But, yeah, in the surveillance footage, it was like a Romulan Federation piece summit and in the surveillance footage, they catch an urn. They'll need it. We're scattering the ashes. In the corner, there's an urn. It is our most modestly priced receptacle. That goes gold briefly before the ashes. In the corner there's an urn. It is our most modestly priced receptacle.
Starting point is 00:15:06 That goes gold briefly before the explosion. Warfs like enhance. Enhance. Enhance. Enhance. Just print a damn thing. Which is always fun. You gotta check out your urns, Ben,
Starting point is 00:15:20 before you gather, before you convene a meeting like this. Right. This is like they sort of rack into Ben Cisco and he's like, my God, the thing I've always feared has happened. A changeling has gone to earth. Like, how could he have been the only one that could think that this would happen? Like, everyone in the federation should know that this was likely. No one does anything about it.
Starting point is 00:15:48 Especially given the fact that they've been told that the change links are everywhere. Right. Yeah. Did they keep that to themselves? Don't tell. Don't tell anyone. It'll just scare them. Oh, some have been lied and plans to attack United States like the
Starting point is 00:16:06 the folders just on the The Federation goes desk under his baseball like yeah, I'll get to that eventually Oof Tenth shot Adam. I'm cruising. Oh So it's not just it's not the whole crew that's heading to Earth, it's gonna be Cisco and Odo and Jake. And Jake has got kind of vacation on his mind. It really does not feel like anybody's bummed out by what's happened. There's a joky scene in Odo's quarters
Starting point is 00:16:45 where he's making Dax put everything back in place. Like, prankster Dax is not a character. I feel like we've established here too far. No, and it's really oil and water as far as the emotions go, right? We're still dealing with the prank thing and we're dealing with Jake's reluctance to visit home because he's gonna be made to do chores.
Starting point is 00:17:05 And the aftermath of a terror attack, it doesn't mix well at all. Odo is like the most serious character and he's like, 65 people have been murdered, but first I'm gonna get all the furniture back where it belongs in my quarters. Before I start this investigation. Before I open up a single document, I want the bucket put back where it was. What? They're kind of flirting too, right? Oh, yeah.
Starting point is 00:17:41 You know, like what, you know, a little more to the left. Whatever you say, Constable. It feels a little, a little hanky, panky. It is the prank you play on someone when you like them. Like what DAX is doing to Odo. When you want an excuse back to be back in their quarters. Yeah. I mean, I mean, it hasn't DAX been filled up by enough.
Starting point is 00:18:04 Yeah, but like she legendarily like open to like weird aliens to bang, right? Yeah, it's true. She's down. We get to meet Joe Sisko, who is a grandpa Sisko to Jake and Admiral Cartwright to you and me. It's hard. This is great casting because anyone who's watched Star Trek for any length of time,
Starting point is 00:18:29 like does not trust Grandpa Josusko. Ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha I know who planned that attack at a federation peace conference that Romulans were also at. Joseph goes like, only when we bring our customers to our knees, then we'll be able to dictate the menu. He's face-timing with Ben, like they're talking about how the visit's gonna go and he's like the insistent parent that while Ben is in town for work, he come home for dinner every night like he's a child. Yeah. There is some circuitous conversation about grandpa Joe's health. Yeah. Ben Sisko seems to be a little bit of a helicopter son to him. I thought, like, there are some really strange tonal issues with this episode, but I would
Starting point is 00:19:37 say that one thing I really liked about it was the kind of using grandpa Joe's health situation as kind of like a parallel metaphor for the security situation. Yeah. Something that they don't want to look straight at, they don't want to really cope with the implications of... As big as Prince your melons and twice as heavy. Because it's scary and feels like if you name it, it becomes real kind of a thing. Right.
Starting point is 00:20:09 If you weren't sure whether or not now is the time to take this episode seriously, you may be confused when you see O'Brien and Bashir dressed as fighter pilots in quarks. And they're like chugging beers and mourning the death of a hollow person that they flew a mission with yeah and doing bits like they're doing They're like O'Brien is doing a different accent than normal RSVP Clive to Clive The best bloke ever to prank his coy into the channel, but also they're like our heart chart into this thing We've never done before because of the real people that also died. Wow, right? Like, why do you do both things? Either you commit to the bit and ignore the grief, or I think you just need to feel the grief here. Right. This episode is schizophrenic emotionally.
Starting point is 00:21:01 It really is. We talked about how the last three episodes were very silly in tone, and how this is a series that's legendarily dark and gritty compared to a lot of Star Trek, and we predicted that this might be the episode where it takes the turn to just being full-time dark and gritty. It does. Be where rot! Hahaha.
Starting point is 00:21:29 Hey, Ben, if you haven't already, I would like to recommend that you take your broad right now. I don't have a broad. Oh, no. You've got all the broads. If I could just, if I could just reach through the microphone Like like the take on me video. Yeah, and give you broad I would Yeah, and if I could reach through the microphone and hit you with a pipe wrench
Starting point is 00:21:56 Like the take on me video. I probably would too. Oh, geez too. Oh geez. Whatever I did to to deserve that I'm sorry. Yeah, it's okay. I can't. So you're safe. Odo chats them up and Odo mentions that he's going to earth and he's like, hey, well, I'm like missing shots here. This is a mess. Odo is like, hey, while I'm on earth, do you want me to go say, hey to anyone? And ObrBrien's like, yeah, my parents are in Dublin. We know where Starfleet HQ is. I guess it's easy enough to beam around the world to go visit people. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:22:36 But what the hell would Odo do in Dublin? I don't know. He'd probably go check out the cows lane, where I lived when I did my study abroad in Dublin. Oh, he'd have to do that Hang your hang around in the temple bar district Pretty interesting moment here when he asks Beshear if he should visit anyone for him. I'd be sure he's like, yeah, no Now I'm good Okay, I'm chilling. Oh
Starting point is 00:23:07 Don't visit my family. Yeah Odo's kind of reluctant to go to earth because of the prevailing anti-shape shifter Sentiment sure to be there after this attack and I'm kind of with him I'd be nervous about this too. It is justifiable. It's a weird feeling. I would just be a bird the whole time if I were him Like I would just be a parrot on Bensisco's shoulder. Everyone loves a parrot. Yeah, they'd be like, hey, cool maca. Welcome to Earth. Don't those live a long time?
Starting point is 00:23:35 Wow, it's a real commitment. Yeah, not a great pet necessarily. God, I went to a wedding in Vermont where everyone stayed in a B&B because I guess that's all they have in Vermont. And in the lobby, there was a parrot and he was a thousand years old like all parrots are. Wow. And totally cantankerous. Also like all parrots are.
Starting point is 00:24:00 Fun. And he would do Carl Armstrong sound and like honk. Like he wouldn't do any phone voices. He would sound like there's a fire in the kitchen that someone would need to go into check. He was not a calm bird at all. No, that sounds, that would really put me on edge. Yeah, not relaxing. Up in ops, they're talking about the strange wormhole activity. And it seems to have died down somewhat. It's been 12 hours since the last time the wormhole opened without anything coming through it. You know what a good strategy is for making a mood more serious after it's been like kind of lightened up
Starting point is 00:24:46 until now. Have a talk about religion. With your co-workers. This is like such a warf move, right? Like, it is not an appropriate thing to bring up, but I'm going to bring it up. Why does warf not want to talk about his dreams in public with people, but he's totally down with talking about how he kills his God. He's like a 16-year-old quoting the ancient Klingon philosopher, Nietzsche, who said that God is dead. Yeah, Wurf is kind of emo-warping here. I think it's the last time we see the station for the episode too.
Starting point is 00:25:34 Yeah, RSVP the station for this episode. I fucking pay Mr. Bucket I have to refer to my state Oh, I don't use the bucket anymore We landed Earth and it looks like the Justice playset Yeah That a lot of this takes place at It's playing ball, will you teach me? Oh sure Looks like we're about to see some nudes Oh
Starting point is 00:26:00 Or semi-nudes Nobody is rocking that, no side boob in the episode, and it just, it feels wrong. Cisco is rocking a TNG era uniform for the trip though. Yeah. That was weird. You gotta shape up for Starfleet HQ, right? Yeah, I think you can afford to be a little dumpier
Starting point is 00:26:19 if you're wearing a DS9 uniform, but you gotta tighten that shit up for the onesie. Yeah. They meet Admiral Layton and Leah Brahms. Yeah. Yeah, a different job for her. Yeah. Susan Gibney, back. It's weird that they recast her as something, and that she's not an alien. She looks generally like she did before.
Starting point is 00:26:41 Yeah, they just like made her hair slightly less big. Yeah. Yeah, even like that different of a of a do, it's just that it's not huge. She's not rocking the, what kind of hair did she have as Lee of Brahms? The Kelzone. Yeah, she had Kelzone here before. Now it's super tight. This is my adjunct, command event. Really nice to see her again.
Starting point is 00:27:02 I think she's, she's one of my favorite Star Trek that guy, ladies. Yeah, yeah, she's great. Cisco was Layton's Exo. So they're like, they're chummy. Like they know each other. Yeah. And Commander Benzick is like, she's his Exo right now, basically.
Starting point is 00:27:22 She's the Shelby to Layton's Hanson, right? Yeah, and Layton is so comfortable with Ben Sisko that he's a little casual with his anti-ling feelings. Something has to be done about these shapeshiftes. She's actually really more the remick to Layton's Quinn come to think of it. Yeah. Because this is much more of a going back to Earth and people are not what they seem episode.
Starting point is 00:27:45 Yeah. Yeah. Ben Cisco thought this was just going to be a chill fact-tinding mission, but he's field promoted to acting head of Starfleet security, like on the spot. Right. That is, he's really blindsided by that, but takes it with a plomb. Like, he's not, he's not like, wait, but I have, I've built a life for myself. Whatever it gets me out of working a shift in Josusco's Creole kitchen. He's like, Admiral Layton, you got an internship for my son. You really just not want to work in a kitchen. He does not want to scrub crawdads. We cut to Cisco's and man,
Starting point is 00:28:33 Joe Cisco is the kind of restaurant tour that pays way too much attention to you as a customer and it would drive me crazy. Yeah, he's the kind of guy that strikes up a conversation at the urinal or in an elevator, you know, or it's like, you're an old talkative, yeah. I like, we're trapped here with you because we sat down and ordered food and now you're gonna like, like, come around and espouse your thoughts on the bread pudding or whatever.
Starting point is 00:28:57 I don't get the sense there's a lot of repeat customers at Cisco's because you go there once, you have that crazy experience and then you just sort of trade on the story for years. Right. You walk by Cisco's and you go there once, you have that crazy experience and then you just sort of trade on the story for years. Right. You walk by Cisco's and you're like, wow, remember when we went there? That place is fucking nuts.
Starting point is 00:29:12 That's a horror. I wonder if that Joe's still alive. Can't be, that guy doesn't take good care of himself. Yeah. Well, I've just poured out the last of my second can of beer at him. Oh yeah, I'm almost done with number two I started taking shots and then I sort of muscle memory
Starting point is 00:29:31 What that felt like and then I just poured my beer into a frosty glass and I've been taking great big gulps Just because I didn't want to spill like there's a lot of shit on my desk. I don't want to spill on. That's part of it. And I did spill last time. So yeah, trying to keep it tight. Yeah. I thought a lot about like the, like, if you, if you have the ability to beam to new Arleens for dinner, new Arleens is a town that hangs out, you know, that stays out late compared to a lot of the rest of the US. Right. So, that kind of works. It like stands to reason. But wouldn't it just be like fucking overrun
Starting point is 00:30:08 with assholes every night? A lot in this episode is made of the utopian society that is earth. How do they get rid of the assholes? It's one thing to rid the planet of war, or whatever, and to make a peaceful society, but how do you get rid of the flat brimmed baseball hat? Gutter vomit.
Starting point is 00:30:36 Like show us your tits for beads assholes. Like, I don't know. I think about this all the time. What can we do to convince those people to subscribe to the New Yorker and chill the fuck out? Like Star Trek has tried to tell the story of how Earth changed in the warlike way, but they haven't told the story of how it changed in the Brolike way. Yeah, how do we get rid of Guy's name Chad from the timeline? Is it like a Star Trek discovery solution where we send them 900 years in the future so they can't?
Starting point is 00:31:10 I don't want any of our chads to feel bad. They're good chads and those are the ones who listen to and enjoy our show, but I don't like our chads. Even chads know that they're bad chads. And you need to police your chads, Chad. I'll go so far as to say that most bends are trash. Yeah, super trashy bends. No doubt.
Starting point is 00:31:29 I am one of them. Bence's go is not. Ben and Jake are concerned about Joe's apparent weight loss, as one becomes when, you know, like, if it's been a while since you've seen your parents, and when you see them for the first time in a while, you definitely notice your parents, and when you see them for the first time in a while, you definitely notice things like weight, especially. At least I have. And so when they see them,
Starting point is 00:31:52 they're concerned about this weight loss thing, and it's disclosed that he's had a bit of some heart trouble over the years. Heart trouble that's resulted in some surgeries, some health surgeries specifically. He's kind of vatering, right? The discussion is that eventually he'll be more machine than man. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:32:16 Yeah, he's eyeing Jake's arm for the city. He wants to cut that thing off and put it in some Creole seasoning. Yeah, propose that they join forces to rule the galaxy together as father and son. Yeah, yeah, and boy. I guess grandfather and grandson. What you gotta do, Ben. Like, boy, this episode almost got too serious. You gotta bring Noggin to the scene, right?
Starting point is 00:32:43 Gotta bring nog in. Nogdog! Jake! Nog? Yeah, people start being all gloom and doom about Joe's Cisco. No, no. We're not gonna be sad about Joe. We know that this episode had kind of an uneven tone when we started, and that now it's
Starting point is 00:33:04 been pretty like grim and serious minded. But, nog dog is here. He's gonna bring back the uneven tone. In a big way. The moment that Joseph Go says that he's thinking of putting tube grubs on the menu and that he served them to nog indicates to me that he has or will soon fail a food safety inspection.
Starting point is 00:33:27 You can't have live tube grubs in your restaurant, man. Oh, yeah. You go on the Department of Health website and look at look up Cisco's and see what they've been violated for. Very upsetting. The Seattle rating is not letters, it's faces, you know, I fucked up. Oh, yeah, you guys have a Moji based rating system. Yeah, and see that.
Starting point is 00:33:51 By the way, we're at the halfway mark. Oh, yeah, cruising. In Seattle, the food safety rating would be a face with worms coming out of it. Be very ominous. Yeah, or a like a tooth being ground to a point. Yeah. Nug is there to complain about how clicky Starfleet Academy is. And he references a group called Red Squad, which are a bunch of Letterman's jacket wearing
Starting point is 00:34:21 assholes that he can't break into. And he never takes responsibility for not being cool enough to hang out with. All he does is throw bombs at Red Squad. Was Nova Squadron disbanded and replaced with Red Squad? Yeah, I mean, they- Is this one of those things where they didn't want to pay the writer that came up with Nova Squadron a royalty?
Starting point is 00:34:40 So they came up with a different squad? This is why it's so important that writers and creatives unionize. Okay? They need to get proper credit and proper compensation for their ideas. We stand with the WGA. In solidarity. Yeah. And for that matter, we stand with the Gimlet Union and the Buzzfeed Union.
Starting point is 00:35:03 We're pro union here on the greatest generation. We are pro seizing control of the means of production, just in general. Yeah. Come to a Ford, Alphorane, come to a Ford, come to a Ford, come to a Ford,
Starting point is 00:35:16 come to a Ford, come to a Ford, come to a Ford, come to a Ford, come to a Ford, come to a Ford, come to a Ford, come to a Ford,
Starting point is 00:35:24 come to a Ford, come to a Ford, come to aced here because he went away, but maybe a bit premature for this being the storyline. It's also the wrong storyline. Like, what do you want to do when you're pitching the story? Do you want it to be a return to serious DS9 after three episodes of Roswell and Fun and Games? Like what is this? And I wonder if this is just the kind of myopia of 1996.
Starting point is 00:36:02 Like nobody that is living in a post 9-11 world imagines that on September 22nd, somebody was like, how do I get along better with the people I'm going to college with? You know? These people haven't never forgotten yet. Right. Yeah. And that's a problem, I think. I think that maybe this episode reads more as better if you haven't been through that kind of trauma. Man, I don't know.
Starting point is 00:36:39 I want to believe you that you don't have to go through the trauma of a terrorist attack to know that maybe if what you're trying to do is make a serious dramatic story, you don't combine it with nog. No, it doesn't mix well. So the next scene after this is when I meet the president and the president is like extremely reluctant to rock the boat, W slash R slash T, the security state on our. I understand the need for increased security, but blood screenings, phasor sweeps. And I thought that was such an interesting choice. Like the idea that the president would not want to introduce a number of security measures,
Starting point is 00:37:21 like when what we have experienced in reality is that anytime there's an opportunity for a politician to like over-correct in terms of like control of population and like security theater, they will because they don't ever want to like have blame land on them for an attack. And the president, he basically needs to be blackmailed into agreeing to some security measures that won't even affect civilians. He's like, we haven't had bro is barfing in gutters for centuries.
Starting point is 00:38:01 Like, you're saying you wanna reintroduce a dress code? It's not a problem. We don't have to ban flat brim baseball hats to go over your ears. Nobody wears them. Ben Cisco does a fun bit of street magic to the president because he's like, now before you make up your mind, you may be interested in knowing that there is a changeling in the room right now, and he likes magic fingers, his hands in front of his face. And then, and then, Odo appears out of a suitcase. Yeah, and then Penn and Teller used some kind of coded language
Starting point is 00:38:41 to describe how they think the trick was done. And, and Cisco goes, yeah, I don't think, I'm kind of coded language to describe how they think the trick was done. And Cisco goes, yeah, I don't think I fooled you. And then that lady from Buffy says it was amazing trick either way. I like that show. I don't care who knows it. I'm so proud. Because so many people have the YouTube algorithm
Starting point is 00:39:05 that wants them to watch a Joe Rogan thing or whatever. I've got my YouTube algorithm trained so well that all it wants to do is show me episodes of, or like single segments of fool us with pen and teller and this old man that, in England, that collects different toys and shows you them in a video. I'll tell you what my YouTube algorithm is pointing me to Adam Regussia's cooking videos.
Starting point is 00:39:32 Oh, those are the best. That guy is really blown up. So the algorithm doesn't need to point me at those because I'm subscribed, baby. Just cooking it on the stove top, medium high heat. If you haven't seen these before, go check them out. I made Adam Ragusia's chicken parm last night and chicken parm it tastes so good. Adam Ragusia is much more internet successful than we are now. It's true. And it happened inside of like four weeks. Adam Ragusia called me today for video advice.
Starting point is 00:40:05 I'll hold you real after. Right. And I was just so like, it sounds condescending and I don't mean it that way, but like I'm so proud of him. Like he's really interested in making his videos great and he's already making great videos. So I was like, what do you need me for?
Starting point is 00:40:24 But he had a few questions about like cameras and like what he should be directing his, his money into really because he wants to like get better gear and professionalize a little bit. But I'm really, I'm really happy for him. He's doing a great job and he makes a great cooking video. Yeah, he really does. And I have learned a lot from his cooking videos. I feel like he thinks critically about, like, technique in a way that is really smart. Yeah. And you can learn a lot from, but also,
Starting point is 00:40:55 it's not a schlocky cooking video, you know? Yeah. There's so many, so many, like, quote-unquote snackable cooking videos on the internet that are teaching you how to make something totally insane and preposterous that you would never actually make. And he's like, here are things that you're going to want to eat seven nights a week that aren't garbage.
Starting point is 00:41:19 He nailed the tone in such a way that it feels like it's not cute and it's not all the way funny and it's not serious. It's just perfect. I don't know how he did it. He's done a good, I hope he keeps picking up the phone when we need a fucking song for our dumb Star Trek podcast. I was gonna say the same thing. Goose, goose, we still need you, man. We know we were lucky to have you from the beginning.
Starting point is 00:41:43 Yeah. We knew we know we were lucky to have you from the beginning. Yeah So President Jerish acquiesces to Cisco security proposals and it's gonna be blood tests and TSA screenings outside of every Creole restaurant That's the point now when you retrofitting a stuff lead installation to detect for change things You're gonna want a place a phaser beacon over every doorway, set a setting of 3.5. That way, you'll force any changelings
Starting point is 00:42:13 out of their chosen shape and into a gold figure. [♪ OUTRO MUSIC PLAYING [♪ [♪ OUTRO MUSIC PLAYING [♪ Nothing? You're not gonna yes and any, you're just fucking leaving me dangling here, fuck you! No man, I'm just fucking brain dead! At how good that was, like I wanted to go in a direction, and I didn't have a direction to go!
Starting point is 00:42:34 That was really good! God! It's very embarrassing to be the only person that does something. I've set up a TSA screening booth outside of this Creole restaurant against the wishes of its owner. I've hired private security to protect me during its installation. Morning, morning, morning, steaming sweet, morning, morning, morning, steaming everybody, everybody, stop. Have a time. We do get that moment where TSA shows up at the restaurant, but not before Nog distracts Cisco from the very serious security problems
Starting point is 00:43:13 that he has to solve by pressuring him into recommending Nog for red squad. If there was ever a moment for DS9 to use a curse word, we really need Cisco to be like, fuck off, Nog. Really? You know, we talked about that scene where Nog has to like dig deep and explain to Cisco why he wants to join Star his career. Yeah. This feels like a very cheap ploy to try and recapture the magic of that and it fails, you know. He's chasing the Avery Brooks dragon. Yeah. I mean, I don't blame them for trying, but it is such a weird
Starting point is 00:44:05 blame them for trying, but it is such a weird, like there is no urgency in this out in such a silly way. Especially where urgency is a necessity. It makes the conflicts interpersonal more than they are globally strategic, right? Yeah. This is what happens a lot in movies and television. Like how do you make a conflict understandable to the person watching your program? Like, globally it's too difficult. You
Starting point is 00:44:32 can't tell a story that way. So you just still let down to the people you know and like, turn those conflicts into proxies for it. But it, I mean, we'll talk about it at the end, but it remains to be seen if that's going to be effective here. Yeah. Odo bumps into Lea Brahms and Admiral Layton walking around on the grounds of Starfleet Academy and he's coming in in Seagull form. And Lea Brahms is like, wow, that is super cool. I have never seen you do that.
Starting point is 00:45:07 And he's like, yeah, you met me 36 hours ago. Of course, you've never seen me do that. Leobrom's looks over at the Shuttlecraft parking lot and her shuttle is just covered in shit. I've been circling over the parking lot for hours. I found a bush full of these red berries. I'm remarkably accurate with these. They really did not sit well with me.
Starting point is 00:45:34 Laten. I'm shitting like Ben and Adam are going to shit tomorrow. Laten, like, throws some serious shade. He's like too bad the other chainslings aren't as shitty it looking as human as you are. And Odo goes goes in for like the sarcastic handshake and golden handshakes latent into proving he's an imposter. Yeah, it's great. Well done, Odo. There's like a little bit of a respect-knucks in that too. Like when Lighten realizes he's made. Yeah. And then he runs away and turns into the same kind of bird Odo was.
Starting point is 00:46:14 Yeah, that's not a better bird than Odo was able to make. That's the same bird. He should have gone to a way cooler bird. What's the coolest, like, should you have been a tarot actor? That would have been amazing. Yeah, like making a smooth getaway is the most distracting possible thing. He turns into a 747. I just like jet blasts them away. They fly a crack, they land in the bay like wow what a rush. Oh Man those those OG changelings can really do it Don't make them like that anymore. That would be awesome if like a secondary part of latins of a fake latins character It's a showing up. Oh, no, whatever you turn
Starting point is 00:47:01 Yeah If the if the changelings just always wanted to shame Odo for choosing not to join up with them. It's clear, they mentioned it at some point in this episode. It's clear that the change links are pissed Odo for killing one of their own. Yeah, I mean, that's how Odo detected the guy. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:47:23 They're talking to the real Admiral Layton, who was not killed, thankfully. And Oto says, I could tell he was just ripshipped with me. Yeah, I mean, it's not like a real Layton was super kind to him to begin with, but there was something else going on. Right. They post game the incident together, and this is a Cisco, Odo, Ben, Teen, and Real Layton. And they're having a real like, what are we gonna do about this?
Starting point is 00:47:54 Like, if Layton could be compromised and we don't know who he is, then it's really time for these tougher measures. Right? Like, we don't have a lot of confidence in this milk toast president, which by the way could be a change-ling. Like, if we don't institute these safeguards, like, the highest, the highest powers in this government
Starting point is 00:48:18 could be compromised, and no one's willing to do anything about it. I give it a be like, you could have a president who was really like a foreign agent. Like he was like totally working against the interest of your country in that scenario. Yeah, it would be the worst thing. You just have to hope that one of the parties
Starting point is 00:48:39 would have the stones to impeach someone like that. Right, you would hope. I'm holding my breath. Yeah. Same. Is it time to reload the beer spin? I think I need more. Where are you at?
Starting point is 00:48:55 I am a few shots away from finishing my third. Oh man, I'm into my fourth. Oh shit, okay. Well, I only brought- You're behind, buddy. I only brought three to the basement, so I'm gonna go get more and then I will return. Go get more. I'm keeping the clock, so you're gonna have to make up shots. I will. I'm gonna drink these last on the way upstairs and then reload on the way down, and I'm gonna get a new frosty glass.
Starting point is 00:49:21 Hell yeah. It's crazy how neither of us have had to pee up until now. There have been live shows where I've had a half a beer on stage and I've been like in a ton of pain by the end of the show because I've had to pee so bad. What's going on here? I don't know exactly how the math of this works. I think that there's just a lot of adrenaline to going out on stage. Yeah, that's true. I think that that has effects, you know?
Starting point is 00:49:54 Yeah, unintended consequences. I was listening to a recent Doe Boys live episode and Gaboris leaves the stage and goes to the bathroom. I was so envious of that move. We just can't do that. There's no way. No, I wouldn't leave you hanging like that. Maybe with friendly fire because there's there's two people left on stage in that scenario.
Starting point is 00:50:19 Yeah. I mean, John's an old man. I mean, if anyone's going to leave the stage to go to the bathroom, it's going to be him. Yeah, he might be wearing a diaper, you know? Tour diaper, available at the merch table. So Benzisco gets called back to New Orleans because his dad is cranky that some Federation securities have shown up to take his blood. They have to they have to blood sample him and see if it because his dad is cranky that some federation securities have shown up to take his blood.
Starting point is 00:50:47 They have to blood sample him and see if it goes gold. I was always absolutely terrified of giving blood and the only thing in my life I've ever been scared of. Yeah, because the deal is they've instituted these new security features on everyone who is starfully and starfully adjacent, So that includes family members. It made me realize that Cisco should have been put in a gold uniform for this. Oh, yeah.
Starting point is 00:51:15 Like, he should be in a gold uniform with four pips, right? I wonder why they didn't do that. I mean, we know why. It's because production wise, they're not going to fit him for a gold uniform He wears once but you're right. I would have been appropriate. Well, they made him they made him a TNG era command uniform. Why not make him a TNG era gold uniform have him show up in the one he wears on the show You know every Brooks is keeping it tight enough to where he put on the season one era uniform and he still fit in it?
Starting point is 00:51:51 I don't know. I mean, every Brooks is a pro. Hey, man. I don't know if I could fit in any clothes I wore four years ago. Most of it because those are all jinkgo jeans. Hahaha. I've lost 35 pounds now. Jesus, man, that's awesome. I had to order a new belt.
Starting point is 00:52:14 And I ordered a new belt in my pants size and it showed up and I couldn't even, like I couldn't even touch the end of the belt to the buckle. Hahaha. And I had to write that super embarrassing email. Like I ordered your belt in the waist size I wear in pants. And it did not fit. What should I do? I have always had that problem.
Starting point is 00:52:36 I never know the size of belt to buy because it never matches up to your waist size. Well, I've also had the same belt for like, for like five or six years. Like it's been such a long time since I've had to solve the belt problem. Right. Wow, man, congratulations for, uh, for getting into shape. Are you feeling better?
Starting point is 00:52:57 I mean, I don't know. I don't, I feel like, for some, like, I've lost more than 10% of my body weight and I don't feel like I look that different. I honestly, I don't want this to make you feel bad, but I agree, I think it's because you carried it so well. Yeah, it was just well distributed. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:53:17 Yeah. So, I don't know. I mean, I think it's, I've made a bunch of positive life choices attendant to this, and my physical appearance hasn't improved that much, but like, you know, come on, like it's not gonna improve that much to begin with. You really want to do this here, now okay, okay, let's do it, do it! Grandpa Joe is doing that thing, like, like the old person on the volcano about to explode. He is resisting the forces at play here. He doesn't know. Well, now resisting it in a way that Ben Cisco is like,
Starting point is 00:53:50 maybe Dad is a changeling. Me thinks Grandpa Joe doth protest too much. Yeah. And this, I like the scene in that it reveals that Ben learned his vegetable cutting techniques from his dad. Would you ever go to Cisco's after seeing how Ben cooks? The fucking knife techniques are weak.
Starting point is 00:54:15 Wow. Very weak. In this scene, Ben Cisco is so paranoid that he actually looks down at Grandpa Joe's knife when he cuts his finger to check for gold. This is like maybe this is a moment where I think that I might take exception with an acting choice that Avery Brooks makes. Maybe for the first time in the history of this show.
Starting point is 00:54:39 Wow. Because he is almost orgasmic looking at the blood on the knife. I can see the built-in card right now. Bill is going to find a screen grab where every Brooks's eyes are rolling in the back of his head. He looks at it for such a long time that his dad has time to rinse and clean a wound, pat it dry with a hand towel and turn around and go, Hands on a lofty at Cisco. What the hell has gotten into your hair?
Starting point is 00:55:12 Ben Cisco must have gotten in trouble so often when his wife was alive, because I imagine every time an attractive woman walked by, he stared at her for a full 90 seconds, because that's what he does to this knife just just a quick glance. He is fully bad boyfriend meaming the knife. He is.
Starting point is 00:55:32 He is and I'm with Joe in this scene. Like if you can't be a little more cool about it, then you deserve what you get. And Joe is mad enough to have a stroke. He's stroke pissed. Which is a way you do not want to be. No, not the way to be. Later at Starfleet HQ, Odo and Ben Sisko have a talk about the situation and like Ben kind of comes to terms with how Paranoid he's become and Odow is like yeah, that's why my people are here like we're here to make you feel bad
Starting point is 00:56:16 Like like mission accomplished when you start busting nuts over blood on a knife that your father was just using, the terrorists have won. Yeah. Yeah. And Ben actually tells Odo that like, you know what, bud? Like, I know it's been your mission forever to like find your people. I kind of, kind of feel like it would have been better if you hadn't TVH. And Odo is like, Odo respect Knuckles' him. He's like, yeah, me too. I love this moment, you know? This is the most real good moment in the episode, I think. Like, just two guys, shop-talking the situation, coming to terms with the truth of it, and
Starting point is 00:57:00 taking it seriously, without a fucking nog there to fuck it up. I think this is the first time Odo has named the game that his people are assholes, you know? Yeah, yeah. I think because Renee Ebersenwa is such a good actor through his cake makeup, like you can see his pain more than it's ever articulated. And he rarely discloses like just how shitty he feels about this whole thing until, and this is one of those moments, one of those rare moments.
Starting point is 00:57:35 Did his look change a little bit in this episode? I mean, he does change into a seagull and back, is that what you're referring to? I feel like his makeup or his hair was adjusted a bit. Adam, we're coming up on our final shot of the power hour here. Oh my God, really? Yeah, I know I just asked you a question
Starting point is 00:57:53 and then they've heard it. But this will be the last shot as we take over. I can't believe it. This is it. All right, cheers. I don't feel as garbage as I did last time we did this. I think we're more articulate than we are even on a regular episode.
Starting point is 00:58:15 Hahaha. Hahaha. Hahaha. We should do this all the time. We would fucking die if we did this all the time. We would fucking die if we did this all the time. You would gain that 40 pounds right back and then we'd both die. They would stick us in one of those extra large torpedoes from Star Trek Discovery, shoot our bodies in the space.
Starting point is 00:58:40 We deserve it. Yeah. You know what? I wonder if Odo's hair and makeup wasn't adjusted for natural light which feels like this feels like one of the first episodes in a long long time when he's been outdoors Yeah, as he's had to be that's an interesting point back at Cisco's like Jake has complained about having to be put to work He's never working when he's there. No, we have not seen any of that. You think Jake tried to institute a new vegetable cutting policy? That was like totally denied by Joe. You pick a cutting board where if you lay a knife on the
Starting point is 00:59:20 diagonal, you've got two inches of clearance on either side before the edge of the board. And then you use your fingers as a guard and as a guide. And you tuck your thumb into your into your fist so you avoid cutting it. Joe's like, what are you doing? You're supposed to cut that tomato like orange segments. Also, why is Joe working a job? Can we talk about that for a second? Joe talks about like he has only enough time in his life to work a job or take care of his health. And so he has said that he chooses the job. But he's he working to live?
Starting point is 01:00:01 He's not. He of course he isn't. He's choosing his hobby over taking care of himself, which is what he never says, but that's the actual truth. And it's what goes uninterrogated by his family. His family should throw this back in his fucking face. I really wish they had done that. Like the thing in Star Trek that you always after remember
Starting point is 01:00:24 is that everybody is doing this for funsies. Everything is an opt-in, which is as it should be. They have developed to a level of technology that everybody can have everything they want. And so any endeavor you undertake is done as an affirmative choice. Like I want to better myself through this. And I can imagine that in a future like that, there are people that are still workaholics. Yeah. I totally see it. And that's such a fucking interesting idea. Just fucking cope with it, you know? Interrogate that.
Starting point is 01:01:08 Put it in the script. Grandpa Joe doesn't have to do cooking and expo. He can work front of house like he can be checking people in. He can be walking around the table seeing if everyone's happy with their meal. He can be yelling at some lady about how good her trout looks. That's all he has to do. He's doing too much.
Starting point is 01:01:29 And Ben and Jake are doing a bad job. Yeah. That's what I think. He's going to have another stroke again, Ben. He's doing way too much. Yeah. Jake is making the case for like maybe you should lie down and I do like, Joseph goes take of you should. The only time you should be in bed is if you're sleeping, dying, making love to a beautiful woman. It's a very mic-michael philosophy
Starting point is 01:01:57 on hotel rooms like hotel rooms are only there for fapping, fucking, or napping. Yeah, then I'm too old for beautiful women. Yeah, then I'm too old for beautiful women. Yeah, if you're too old for beautiful women, maybe you're too old to work in a restaurant, Joe. I mean, he's also like not so old that they aren't talking about him celebrating 50 more birthdays in a plausible way. So, like, which is it? I don't know. We don't get answers to any of these questions
Starting point is 01:02:32 because the power goes out. And it turns out that the changelings have put their elite hacks or skills in effect and knocked out the power grid all over the planet. You know what that means, Ben. They've been throwing their wooden shoes into the gears. Hence the word sabotage. I'm still drinking beer for some reason.
Starting point is 01:02:53 It means Earth is defenseless. Utterly, all they've got is the Lakota in orbit. Right. It's another one of those like, why is there only one starship at Earth? No, that's... Do not send me fucking emails about this, but do you think there's a starbase orbiting Earth? It feels like there should be. There should be. They talk about it. They say like, oh yeah, we're gonna put all these...
Starting point is 01:03:16 All these like phaser things over the doors here on Earth and then we'll... We'll get them up in the... in the starbase as an orbit also. We know we have the star base footage, but I feel like we rarely see the star base footage comped on top of Earth. It seems preposterous that the star bases would be tied into the Earth energy system. They should have an independent system.
Starting point is 01:03:40 Show us that beautiful enterprise B footage. They're not above reusing that footage. They reused it in TNG. Yeah. Yeah. So back of the presidential office, Cisco, Odo, Layton, and some random dude beams in. I could not take my eyes off of random dude because I'm like, you're going to die random dude. But he's safe. He's as safe as anyone else in the room. And Cisco's
Starting point is 01:04:07 suggesting that a state of emergency should be declared. And kind of like the presupposition is that the wormhole winking was a sign that cloaked dominion ships were pouring through. And they were using salvaged cloaking devices from the battle of the omaria nebula. Yeah, which I love I do too, but also we know from TNG that you can set up a web to detect cloak chips. They should have webbed the entrance to the butthole man. Yeah, there should have been a bunch of tacky on beams going across the butthole. Yeah, that was dumb tacky on the butthole man. Yeah, there should have been a bunch of tacky on beams going across the butthole. Yeah, that was dumb. Tacky on the butthole. Why are they just letting this happen? I think this is terrible op-sec by the Federation. President Jerish Inyo admits that he is not the president
Starting point is 01:05:00 for these times. I wish every president that was not the president for these times could have such an admission and then just in the office. A little bit of a little bit of insight, a little bit of self-reflection. Yeah. Yeah, it's scary because like rebooting the power system is going to take a number of days. Like, So what are you going to do? What are you going to do in the darkness, Ben? You're going to lose his signs over a bunch of his authority to Starfleet, and they institute martial law. And like the button on the episode is Jake waking his grandpa up, and they like look out
Starting point is 01:05:42 the window at like armed, starfleet gold shirt's beaming into the town square outside the restaurant. Shit's getting hot at Cisco's, Ben. We don't mean the gumbo. Pfft! Pfft! Ha ha ha ha!
Starting point is 01:05:59 Well, yeah, because we know that Ben's sister doesn't put enough cayenne pepper in it, right? And we get some dun dun dun. It's as if you could be continued, Ben. It is I love a nice to be continued. Especially midseason. DS9 is not afraid of a midseason to be continued. I love it It's fun. It's fun. Did you like the episode? Yeah, I did. I mean, to the degree that you can like the first part of a two-parter, I did. No.
Starting point is 01:06:33 Um, I liked the, there are several references to like, you know, shit hasn't been this hot since the board cube was in orbit. Yeah. I got like those callbacks, like a number of callbacks to best up both worlds in this episode. I found very enjoyable. But like on a whole, I think I'm going to have to wait to judge it until we get a part
Starting point is 01:06:54 two. I mean, there's a lot of setup and not a lot of knockdown. And honestly, tonally, this app was kind of a mess. So maybe they're able to straighten out some tangles in part two I think that's where I'm gonna go with my review. What about you? I would say on balance. I kind of didn't like the episode Like there's a lot that I liked about it, but there was so much like the tone stuff was so Overwhelming to me. It's fun to talk, though, which is why I feel like just our conversations skewed me into liking it, where maybe outside of the fun of that conversation, I would have been
Starting point is 01:07:31 harsher. Well, we're both obliterated right now, so. Yeah, I'm pretty fucked. That's part of it. I'm also like, for some reason, finishing the partial beer that... Oh, yeah. Yeah, I'm not letting that go to waste. I've been sipping on it, and I don't know, yeah, I'm not letting that go to waste.
Starting point is 01:07:45 I've been sipping on it and I don't know why. It's a not good choice. It's delicious, that's why. I would say that overall, if this is the like big, I don't know, like we talk about the like, grow the beard moment, the moment that the series changes and becomes the amazing thing everyone remembers it as this ain't it. Whatever whatever that moment is. This ain't it babe. Well you know what is it Ben? Hmm. It is always in our priority one email box. You want to go check that out?
Starting point is 01:08:25 I do. Priority one message from Starfleet coming in on Secured Channel. Need a supplement on it. A supplement? A supplement. A supplement. Yeah, it's extra. But the interest alone could be enough to buy this ship.
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Starting point is 01:14:27 Oh, come on, I can have my own Shimoda. I'm gonna predict a daily double. Wow. This president is bad and he shouldn't be president. Ha, ha, ha. And also my drunk Shimoda. I wish he was the fucking president right now, man. And also my drunken mother for this episode
Starting point is 01:14:47 is the president of the federation. He is not good. He's like a guy stacking isolinear chips in the corner. He's a baby. He's a baby for a man's job. And his hands are so small. And I'm not saying that I totally agree with Layton's deal. You get to do some interpretation here, right? Like you can't go full-Latin with policy, but you need to take Layton's
Starting point is 01:15:12 thought seriously and he's just not, he can't do it. He's a drunk Shimoda. He shouldn't be president. So that's my drunk Shimoda. What about you, Ben? All right. If you go to, uh... Oh, shit. This is a time for... This is a time for... 16-minute mark in the episode. I don't think this is Larry David. But I think Larry David might be... might be doing a solo table at Cisco's.
Starting point is 01:15:41 They're sitting down. Oh, yeah. There he is. He's just doing a. He's just, he's by himself. He's, uh, he's heard tell of the, of the great food on offer at Cisco's. I feel like he's maybe like doing a little bit of an L have what's Phil having. Like, oh, I also created a legendary sitcom. Why don't, why don't I go't I go solo enjoy a cool restaurant somewhere? Wow, I I love eating alone. I've said this before I go have lots of meals by myself good for this guy Every time we go on tour. I can't get you I can't you get you to enjoy a meal with me. Oh That's because you eat all the nachos, Ben
Starting point is 01:16:23 That was back when you didn't think you could eat the milk. And now I can. God, there's a guy over Jake's shoulder in this scene who is just unmoving. Do you see this guy? When they cut to jigsisco, he's like, I guess the, when they cut to a brick wall,
Starting point is 01:16:40 like the brick wall behind jigsisco's shoulder, he is just a stone. Wow. Is he like a cardboard standy of a man? Yeah, he's like when they when they shoot scenes and stadiums and they have to put a bunch of cardboard into the seats to look like people. He's one of those. That's a funny line of work to be in. The company that rents out that. Hey, Ben, what's coming up on the next episode? Oh, I'm so glad you asked Adam. The next episode is season 4 of episode 11, Paradise Lost,
Starting point is 01:17:15 Part 2. Preparing Earth for war with the Dominion, Cisco and Oto discovered evidence of a star fleet plot to seize control of the planet from the federation. Hey, you know what would be a good idea after best of both worlds part two? Maybe defending earth. Like just having shit ready to go. What do you think? Yeah, maybe like, uh, oh, like this could happen again. Yeah.
Starting point is 01:17:41 Let's put some stuff in place. I don't know. Seems like a good idea. I don't hate the idea. Ben, I think we just start over at one, right? When we're talking about game of buttholes, will the profits now that we've reached the last square on the game board? So I would say that our potential role is anywhere from one to six, right? All right, man. Roll it.
Starting point is 01:18:03 You're required to learn as you play. Roll. I am a rolling. Tula! Did I win? Hardly. Oh, man, I rolled a clean six. So we are on square six.
Starting point is 01:18:21 Huh. I don't know if people know, but the squares that we came up with as updates for this thing are live. Whoa, there they are, yeah. We've got a, we've got a, his eyes uncovered square. We've got a canar with demar square. We've got a, we've got a j-gordon square.
Starting point is 01:18:43 I love it. And we have an extra cocoa no no square, which I personally, I'm looking forward to immensely. Excellent. Big fan. Well, if you've stayed with us this long, we're sorry. We're sorry.
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