The Greatest Generation - Tribble Dentata (DS9 S7E16)

Episode Date: November 30, 2020

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Starting point is 00:00:00 Priority 1 message from Starfleet coming in on Secured Channel. Hey friends of Disodo. Before today's episode, we just wanted to take a moment to talk about the historic labor actions being taken by writers and actors in the American Film and Television industry. If you're a fan of the work done by the people who make Star Trek, we hope you'll join us in standing in solidarity with the folks who actually bring these adventures to life. Over the past several years, the AMPTP, the organization that represents the American Film and Television Production Studios, have reduced the profit from movies and TV going to workers. And in so doing,
Starting point is 00:00:35 they've attempted to weaken the labor unions that represent those workers. They wouldn't even engage the unions on many issues in their negotiations. And so a strike was the only course of action to take. Adam, Wendy and I have been having a lot of internal discussions about how best to stand with the unions and we are continuing those conversations in a dynamic situation. We're doing our best to understand where the picket lines are in these digital spaces,
Starting point is 00:01:01 and we would never intentionally cross one. With the information we have, we feel like we can do more good talking about and supporting the strike and continuing our show as planned. We'll keep you informed about what all this means for greatest trek specifically. Today we're making a contribution to the Entertainment Community Fund. This fund exists to help all the people whose livelihoods have been put on hold because the AMPTP refuses to negotiate
Starting point is 00:01:25 in good faith with the unions. It provides financial support for writers, actors, and all the thousands of laborers who make the shows that we talk about here and without whom we wouldn't have Star Trek to cast pot about. Those folks are all out of work because billionaires, company shareholders, and the executives of these companies don't want to compromise on the length of their yachts. We hope you'll join us in supporting entertainment workers in a challenging time, especially after they've already endured several years of challenges brought on by the pandemic
Starting point is 00:01:55 and season two of Star Trek Picard. We've set up a page where you can also contribute. It's at friendsofdecotoforlabor.com. That's friendsofdececoto for Labor.com. That's FriendsOfDecoto for Labor.com. Link in the episode description. Okay, now let's get on with the show. Here's to the finest crew in Starfleet. Engage! The god of the universe, the death of the world. Command of Benjamin, says great, the better reason to stop lazy. Deep Space 9. Welcome to the greatest generation.
Starting point is 00:02:30 Deep Space 9. It's a Star Trek podcast by a couple of guys who are a little bit embarrassed to have a Star Trek podcast. I'm one of those guys I'm Ben Harrison. I'm Adam Pryanaka. I'm really not used to doing this on camera. Hello to the 79 people, nice. Yeah. Who are watching this as we speak.
Starting point is 00:02:47 I mean, we joke about the live stream all the time, but this is like a new weird version of that. Right? No one wanted this. No. And once we've done it once, I think there will be a resounding rejection of us ever doing it again. But I'm here in my new studio,
Starting point is 00:03:07 and I have a great big pile of boxes because over the course of the move, I have not checked our PO box that many times. So I think I have, I don't know, eight things or something like that to open up. I have a bunch of things. Many of these might not even make the final edit in the episode, but I thought I would start opening them.
Starting point is 00:03:26 Wow, so if you sent something awful to us, now is your time. You could see us open the anthrax envelope that kills me and not Adam. I always knew I would be the last survivor of this show. It's my curse. Captain, I'm sorry to disturb you. I'm receiving a code 47. Verify? It is code 47, sir. Starfleet emergency frequency. Captions eyes only. But the moral of the story is follow the greatest trek
Starting point is 00:03:54 accounts on social media. If you're listening to this after the fact and wish you had tuned in, you could have. This first thing I'm opening is from Austin, Texas, but it does not have a name. It has been discreetly sent by a friend of DeSoto that did not want to reveal themselves. It is Deep Space Zine with comics and illustrations
Starting point is 00:04:16 by a bunch of people here. Ben, I don't want to be pedantic, but I think that's actually pronounced Deep Space Zine. Oh, yeah, for old's actually pronounced deep space design. Oh, yeah. For old Langzine, my dear. There's a fun picture of Wayune there. I don't know which version of Wayune. Right.
Starting point is 00:04:36 It is, but, ah, this is cool. It's a comic book. And it's comics by lots of different artists and lots of different drawing styles. Some of these kind of look familiar to me. I wouldn't be shocked if friends of De Soto were directly involved in the creation of this based on some of the art styles I'm seeing in here. Well, you only know if it's De Soto related if there's bishier piss references in it.
Starting point is 00:05:01 How many of that? I mean, there's a... But Jorin, drinking something. There we are. Yeah, delicious. I love the last page there. There you go. There's Morn saying the end.
Starting point is 00:05:14 Thank you, anonymous Texan, for sending deep space Zine. This one came all the way from Canada, Adam. I'm not gonna hold it up to the camera because I don't want to show our address or the person who sent it's address, but it came up, Power Avion from London, Ontario. We have 105 viewers, Ben, on very short notice.
Starting point is 00:05:38 That's pretty fun. That's what, this is from Ryan of London, Ontario. There's kind of Styrofoam packaging here. Oh, something fell out already. Oh boy, we got some rubber key chains here. We got one for Quark, one for Odo. I like a rubber key chain because they don't jingle jangle. And then this is something we always love to see when we open a letter from a stranger,
Starting point is 00:06:04 a label that says says not for food use Food consumed from this plate may be harmful These are like mini commemorative plates and we have one counselor Diana Troy and we have one of Dr. Beverly Crusher. Hey, that's pretty great. Are they actual porcelain? Yeah, they're the little versions of the Star Trek commemorative plates that we have a couple of from other viewers. These are great. That's pretty fun.
Starting point is 00:06:35 They made them in little size. I was thinking about putting together a wall of commemorative plates here in my new office. I don't have anything of a wall. What kind of person needs a meal on those little plates? There's a meal for ants. I mean, you don't even need to put the warning, right? Because there's not enough plate space to put food. Right.
Starting point is 00:06:55 Hey, we've got a, we've got a bill tilly on the feed. We've got a Rob Schulte on the feed. Yeah, we got a lot of friends at the sodo. I think I saw a, a, a Bree on the feed. Sam Knits on the feed. Bill and Rob know they'd be fired if they didn't tune in for this, right? Right. Yeah. This is mandatory. What are you drinking out of your goblet? I'm drinking some of that miscalve you got me.
Starting point is 00:07:16 Nice. That's my birthday miscal. Very fancy. That's not a goblet at the item. That's a... that's a snifter. Thanks. Okay, I'm opening another one. Another package. This is from Jay Barrow of San Jose, California. It's kind of a small, cube shaped package. I hear some rattling inside, so it could be Legos.
Starting point is 00:07:40 You know we love Legos around here. There's a letter. From the desk of Jay Barrow, Dear Ben and Adam, thank you for creating the awesomeness that is the greatest generation and greatest discovery. It has been especially great to listen to in these trying times. My husband and I have been loyal viewers of the pod since early 2016 when we had been dating for just a few months. You've been with us through our engagement marriage, house purchase, and the birth of our daughter.
Starting point is 00:08:12 Listening during many pumping and breastfeeding sessions have really helped my sanity in my current career as a milk cow. Greatest gen makes the milk flow. Then we finally said it. Indeed. Anyways, enclosed are some miniature ships circa 1993 or 94. I had them proudly displayed in my room during middle school and early high school, but they've lived in a box ever since.
Starting point is 00:08:35 I unpack them every time I move, admire them, then put them away again. This time my husband says I have to either do something with them or get rid of them. No more back in the box, so I'm giving them to you in the hopes that they can enjoy a second life. Perhaps on display at a live show when those become a thing again. Take care, stay safe, and of course, live long and prosper.
Starting point is 00:08:56 Best, Jane. Wow. Oh. That rules, Jane. Thank you. I had some of these when I was a kid. These mini ships. Oh, wow.
Starting point is 00:09:04 Yeah. I got the of these when I was a kid. These mini ships. Oh wow. Yeah. We got the mini Borg cube here. Got mini deep space nine. Oh, I love mini deep space nine. That's cool. Do you have a mini hood in there? There's mini entrepreneur. There's the mini big D.
Starting point is 00:09:17 Mini reliant. I like that. From Wrath of Khan. Mini movie enterprise. Fun. Yeah. Mini run about? Well, yeah. Many run about, mm-hmm, and last, but definitely not least, mini-previa.
Starting point is 00:09:32 That one might be my favorite. If you had to guess what the name of this previa is, Adam, what would you guess? Galileo seems kind of hack. Galileo's hack and not a pervy producer from the Star Trek series. Yeah. I don't know if the camera will pick this up. It is a...
Starting point is 00:09:50 It's softly focused. I don't think we can get it. It's the USS Burman. The Burman. Yeah. Can you believe that shit? That's not gonna give me a price. That's the only Previo with a casting couch in it.
Starting point is 00:10:04 That's too far. Oh, I didn't know they made these shuttles with black leather seats. Yeah. Alright, Adam. Next box is from Christian from Minneapolis, Minnesota. Bigger box here. We've got a lot of friends in Minnesota. Yeah, Minneapolis is one of our favorite places to visit.
Starting point is 00:10:24 Alright, letter. Hey Ben, add up. Duh-lu-lu-lu-lu-lu-lu-lu-lu-lu-lu-lu-lu-lu-lu-lu-lu-lu-lu-lu-lu-lu-lu-lu-lu-lu-lu-lu-lu-lu-lu-lu-lu-lu-lu-lu-lu-lu-lu-lu-lu-lu-lu-lu-lu-lu-lu-lu-lu-lu-lu-lu-lu-lu-lu-lu-lu-lu-lu-lu-lu-lu-lu-lu-lu-lu-lu-lu-lu-lu-lu-lu-lu-lu-lu-lu-lu-lu-lu-lu-lu-lu-lu-lu-lu-lu-lu-lu-lu-lu-lu-lu-lu-lu-lu-lu-lu-lu-lu-lu-lu-lu-lu-lu-lu-lu-lu-lu-lu-lu-lu-lu-lu-lu-lu-lu-lu-lu-lu-lu-lu-lu-lu-lu-lu-lu-lu-lu-lu-lu-lu-lu-lu-lu-lu-lu-lu-lu-lu-lu-lu-lu-lu-lu-lu-lu-lu-lu-lu-lu-lu-lu-lu-lu-lu-lu-lu-lu-lu-lu-lu-lu-lu-lu-lu-lu-lu-lu-lu-lu-lu-lu-lu-lu-lu-lu-lu-lu-lu-lu-lu-lu-lu-lu-lu-lu-lu-lu-lu-lu-lu-lu-lu-lu-lu-lu-lu-lu-lu-lu-lu-lu-lu-lu-lu Friendly Minnesota Trekkie, Kristen. We really blew up Kristen's spot here by reading the letter. I mean, Kristen cut a save to yourself a lot of grief by putting that, don't read this out loud part at the beginning. Yeah. So this is one of these kits that you order from the internet.
Starting point is 00:10:58 Get some Klingon stickers. Klingon badge. What do we got here? That looks like a case of blank CDs. It does look like a case of blank CDs. It's called a Tribble, but this is a... Tribble with teeth. I've never seen a toothsome Tribble.
Starting point is 00:11:18 Tribble Dentata. Tribble Dentata, indeed. Mirror Universe Tribble is what it is. That makes sense. They have bad kinds of Tribbles then data indeed mirror universe triple is what it is that makes it has they have bad kinds of tribbles in the in the M.U Yeah, look at this Klingon socks. I do like Klingon socks. Do you call this your zosary? This this each Klingon sock have two footholds in it I've got Worf statue here with batless.
Starting point is 00:11:49 Wow. Yeah, he looks like he's gonna bring that thing down. Looks like he's about to fill duro or something. I really like the expression on him. Yeah, that's a good face. Good Worf verisimilitude there. Yeah. Alright Adam, I got two more boxes. I think I know what this one is. This one is from Wesley in Jefferson City, Missouri, and I think I remember exchanging some emails with Wesley about a problem we have with our
Starting point is 00:12:20 canar with demar episodes. A letter not sealed for coronavirus reasons it says. That's nice. I like that a lot. But all the rice in inside the box, just loosely strewn about. Says Dear Ben and Adam, here is my attempt at canar. I've been a hobby home brewer for several years and enjoy trying to recreate fictional beverages.
Starting point is 00:12:47 This is a version of an Amaro-slash-crouter liquor, steeped with sage, walnuts, white peppercorns, cinnamon dried cherries, cardamom, fennel seed, mustard seed, star anise, and rice. And then fortified to 40% alcohol by volume. The biggest challenge to recreating canar is that there's no single good description of what it is. One feature I wanted to include but decided against was the custard-like consistency, see a few episodes of Deus Bay's 9. This is a deal breaker.
Starting point is 00:13:22 I imagine you could sprinkle some unflavored gelatin over a glass to achieve the effect. Ideally, I'd like to brew and distill the canar from scratch with the end result being somewhat similar to absence, but this recipe has the advantage of being far less technical. I'm going to mix mine with a little cornstarch to thicken it up. Yeah, give it a little body. I've also included a bottle of sherry
Starting point is 00:13:47 from a local winery, which I like. I think I recall there having been opinions about sherry shared on the pod previously, though, not enough detail that I can cite specifically. You know who likes sherry are the crane brothers, miles of frazier, miles of frazier. Yeah, those guys fucking love sharing. Yeah, I don't know whether the cranes dad
Starting point is 00:14:10 like Sherry though, do you? Hmm, wouldn't surprise me, Adam. Yeah. It says, I have faith of the heart that you'll make the right decision in regards to viewing enterprise after Voyager. Only slightly embarrassed to be writing into a Star Trek podcast, Wesley. PS regardless of when you cover enterprise, I will continue
Starting point is 00:14:31 to be a loyal viewer. All passive aggression in this letter is intended only for comedic effect, whatever small effect it might have. PPS, not sure if you have this issue, but I tend to keep handwritten letters for far longer than they are relevant. I am explicitly giving permission to check this letter despite the obvious effort that went into it. P-P-P-S. I hope this one is legible. I hope this is the canar. Oh wow.
Starting point is 00:14:58 So here's the bottle. You have to drink it on camera then. I don't know if this is the sherry or the, or the, there's two bottles here. Our viewers are very funny then. I don't know if you're able to read the feed the way I am. I can't, I can't read from here. It's really great. Hey, tell them, you Hey, you said Rob and the bill are on the feed right now?
Starting point is 00:15:34 They are. Hey, everybody, I don't know if there's like an emoji you can do, but give a round of applause to Rob and Bill for keeping us going. Yeah. Oh, I see the hard. Throw hards it at Robin Bill. So here's the sherry. That looks really nice. That really does. It's a rich sweet sherry with complex nutty aroma and flavor which develops during extended aging in old oak barrels. If my sherry doesn't taste like nuts, then I just pour it down the drain. So I think you got a good one. Okay, I'm going to give this a moral, a little taste test here. Gotta do it. I'm going to put it in this Enterprise A coffee mug that I have in here.
Starting point is 00:16:21 That's where it belongs. Then put that mug on top of one of your new coasters. Then you get the whole setup. Oh yeah. Oh, it's a very light color. Smells nice. All right. RSVP Benjamin Arherison. RICENY!
Starting point is 00:16:36 Oh, that's delicious. My wife is a big Amaro drinker. Yeah, that's a big fan. I think she's likely to be a big fan of that. So thank you, Wesley. All right, this is the last box. It's a really big one. Look at the size of that thing. Yeah, it's got the black duct tape that always worries me when I think about the unipomer. always worries me when I think about the unipomber. Hey, are you feeling any symptoms of canar poisoning? At this point?
Starting point is 00:17:13 I think I could quit this canar whenever I want to, Adam. All right. This one is from Mike, also of Minneapolis. Another minisotin sending something into the greatest generation. First discovery, Captain Kern, oh my god, I did not know that there was an action figure of Kern. Is he, is that a deep V? He's wearing?
Starting point is 00:17:38 Yeah, he's got major chest going on. Wow, in this. No kidding. This is the action figure. Oh, here's no kidding. This is action figure. Oh here's a letter there's a letter great goes like this. Peldoor Joy Fellas as the bar manager for a Mexican restaurant I get introduced to lots of interesting tequila and mezcals and as a fellow agaveman I wanted to share a couple of my favorites with you guys.
Starting point is 00:18:03 Hopefully you can do a responsibly distant tang soon and give them a try. I'd love to know what you think. First up is the Espadine Barrel Ensemble from Bonhez. Oh, I was just reading about this. This is supposedly a really great everyday mezcal. This is our go-to at the restaurant because it's great on its own or in cocktails. And is my shot of choice before during an after shift. Oh, yeah, that sounds great.
Starting point is 00:18:32 Oh, yeah. I like a little ensemble. I agree with Adam. Drinkability shouldn't be considered a bad thing. Bun has is also cool because it's a co-op of almost 40 family farms, helping ensure sustainability and fair prices for all participating families.
Starting point is 00:18:48 That sounds nice. That's what you want. He says, next up without hyperbole is my favorite mezcal, the 100% Chino expression from La Luna, light smoke, a bit sweet, herbal, and it has a tint of pine on the finish due to its fermentation and open air pine vats. It reminds me of hiking in the Pacific Northwest after it rains. Runs a little hot at 102 proof, but it still sips very easily. Everything while Luna makes it great, if you see any, snap it up.
Starting point is 00:19:19 Also current action figure, I found it at a nerd shop in downtown Madison visiting my wife's family, and made sure to tell the guy working there that I was going to send this to my favorite podcast, assuming it would strike up a fun conversation. It did not. I know I work at a Mexican restaurant, but I do not remember which one. He said absolutely nothing while never once looking up from his point of sale scream. I looked over at my wife who just rolled her eyes, shook her head at me.
Starting point is 00:19:52 It was hilarious. I thought he would look dope on the table at a live show once you guys can tour again some day. And would hopefully get another current impression for the FOT. Anyway, you guys are appreciated and wishes of continued health in these crazy times to both of you, the wives, the very good boys, dar and sprocket, and even Adam's dusty cat. Thanks, Mike. Wow, covered all the bases, thanks. Your dusty cat maybe needs that the least of anyone.
Starting point is 00:20:24 Show me a bottle. There it is. There's the Latuna. Wow Pretty All right, you're obligated to to take a poll. Okay I'm running up to drink everything we've received. I'm running out of glass right here. Just take it to the dome take it to the dome If you want Ben to take it to the dome, drop a heart. Drop a heart on your boy. Yeah. Okay, I see the explosion of hearts.
Starting point is 00:20:53 That is fabulous. Alright. Fuck, man. It has described. That is a hike in the PNW. Wow. And when I'm out of my health department ordered quarantine, you and I are gonna have to get together and enjoy a bottle. Yeah, safe social distance. All right.
Starting point is 00:21:15 But it's fucked up because we're gonna have to make our wives drive us to do this hang so that we can get shit-faced and then Yeah, they'll love that. And then here's the bun-heads. I was like literally just reading on-sounds. That's the ensemble. Yeah, that this ensemble is like a really special and like very affordable bottle. It's like less than 40 bucks and... Wow.
Starting point is 00:21:42 That's tough to find. And apparently like a great Nick's drink, my scale, that works in a lot of things that Vita might not, because it's supposedly less smoky. Domet! Mmm! I love it! Boy, I didn't realize I was gonna have two bottles of mezcal in here with me.
Starting point is 00:22:06 Or I might not have poured myself this big brandy sniffed or full of mezcal. Now take that to the dome, Ben. We have to record an episode here, Adam. Wow. Well, it looks like the experiment worked. We did an Instagram thing for over a hundred people. Okay. Notice at all. Imagine if we actually gave notice. So thanks to everyone that tuned in and if you would like to be notified of these in the future, I guess you, I think if you follow us on Instagram, that greatest track, it will give you like a notification if we're gonna go live.
Starting point is 00:22:46 Right. Theoretically, we may do this again. If anybody ever sends us anything in the mail again, which they probably won't. Yeah, I think a surefire way to do this again is to just send more booze. Yeah. I mean, that might not be great for my overall health, but, uh, Hey, anything for the podcast? Who cares about overall health anymore? Not me. All right. Well, uh, I think we should shut the live stream down because we now have business to attend to Adam.
Starting point is 00:23:16 We've got to talk about an episode of Star Trek Deep Space Nine. That's right. Uh, we better not say which one. You know, why don't we say which one and then we can throw it to the music and we'll shut these people down. Alright, you do it. It's your kick, it's your episode. Oh fuck, I don't remember. You just making me do this because it's the crazy Latin title. Yep. That's why. Yeah, Adam, of course, it is season 7 episode 16.
Starting point is 00:23:44 Inter-Arma, enim Silent Legas. True. What? Do you realize how many? What about this season? No, of course you don't. The war, which we have not really talked much about in a long time, did not, did not ever end.
Starting point is 00:24:04 And this episode starts with a MacLaughlin group about the kind of bureaucracy of war. I feel like the title of this episode kind of gives it all away, right? Because when you translated it's in time of war, the Laugh Fall is silent. Like everyone knows that. It's on our money. I mean, ever since Steve Manouken was the Treasury Secretary, it has been. Right, right. But yeah, this is a scene where Kira and Kri-Tak and O'Brien...
Starting point is 00:24:38 I am Chief Miles and O'Brien. This is fucking spectacular. Rhyrudes and with O'Brien. This is fucking spectacular. Warf, like they're all talking about these repair schedules for different warships that come to the station. And O'Brien is defending his Klingons first repair philosophy. And Warf actually has a pretty funny line to back this up. They are usually more damaged
Starting point is 00:25:01 because Klingon warships are relentless in pressing home their attack. And so their ships get fucked up a lot more in battles. They are usually more damaged because cling on warships are relentless and pressing home their attack. And so their ships get fucked up a lot more in battles, not like those scrotum sack, Romulan ships that always cut and run at the first sign of trouble when they do attack. Very precious are the Dideradex class ship captains. Never see a scratch on them. The fight must be taken to the enemy. We cannot win this war.
Starting point is 00:25:27 All right, we're not here to debate combat tactics. I really love scenes and star trick that teach us about process. Like the idea that the station acts as a sort of star ship garage. Yeah, totally. And they need to like figure out how to do repairs and expedite them in such a way that isn't troubling or insulting to the people involved. Like, I love all this stuff. It also highlights the idea that like post-scarcity is really a matter of perspective. If we lived like the people in deep space nine here and now, we would be rich, you know,
Starting point is 00:26:01 like we could have whatever we want, whenever we wanted. Our entertainment would be like way better than what anybody else could experience, you know, like the advantages of living like a future person would be so, so great compared to our current quotidian existences. But if you got a fucked up starship, you've got to get in line, baby. Even if you're the Rotor-Anne. I think part of this is that nobody wants to tell Martok that he's like fourth, you know? No. So this is a meeting that is about reminding us that we are still at war,
Starting point is 00:26:40 and then the Romulans are a big part of the war effort, and are demanding to be treated as such. Garek and Bashir are in the next scene reminding us that they're still friends. It feels like it's been a long time since we've seen them together. Garek's chatting up Bashir about his trip to Romulus. Bashir's got an upcoming trip to Romulus and G Garrick starts taking the time to drag Romulus. How dumb.
Starting point is 00:27:10 And his line of attack is absurd. He starts making fun of the Romulan heart as being gray and that Romulus itself is very gray. Are you kidding? Derek, you're fucking gray. You're the greatest thing on screen at the moment. It's the gray pot calling the gray kettle gray. What is he talking about? Anyways.
Starting point is 00:27:43 It looks like Derek's got inject between now and the last time we saw him, he's really got some good shoulder definition in the scene. Yeah, those traps are fucking huge right now. If only you meant it. Another just table setting conversation. This is putting Bashir into the front of the episode and talking about the fact that he's going to Romulus and not doing anything interesting. He's there for Starfleet medical, doing medical ass shit and Garrick is like, yeah, but what
Starting point is 00:28:15 about the military shit? And Bashir is like, well, that's not really my area. Garrick, like, I'm mostly, I'm just gonna see like whether the locals are into piss play or not, you know, like I'm kind of focused on my own shit on this trip. I'm wearing this yellow handkerchief out the back of my dress uniform. I'm gonna see if I get any bites. Yeah. Garrick has that that world view of like the the universe is like a cold, hard place and you're a soft star fleet.
Starting point is 00:28:49 And you need to like come to grips with reality. Well, Gary's been around the block. He's been to Romulus. He was a gardener there. He was the boothby of Romulus. In a lot of ways. It's true. Oh, how is old boothby?
Starting point is 00:29:03 But right on cue, we smashed cut to Bashir sleeping in his bedroom and waking up to discover director Sloan, just sitting there watching him sleep. You're a fucking luck, huh? You wonder how long Sloan waits for Bashir to wake up. Yeah. Is Sloan clearing his throat after, he's like, all right, I've been here for like 30
Starting point is 00:29:26 seconds and he's not waking up. I'm going to give him a... When you're wearing leather head to toe, I feel like you could hear every breath that slow and takes sitting in that chair. Yeah, he just sits down and it's... Bashir bolts out of bed. Oh, here. I mean, and speaking of that, there's a real power imbalance in the costuming.
Starting point is 00:29:48 It's Bishir in this loose-fitting pajama combo. Yeah. And Sloan is in like super tight SNM leatherwear. Yeah, what's that? Just looking at them, you can tell that one person means business. I love Sloan's mode here He's like so since you're now a Section 31 agent you pass the test and everything we're giving you a mission and for sure is like I didn't even apply much less
Starting point is 00:30:16 You know like if if nominated I will not run if elected I will not serve sir I love how Sloan's like and the mission is do exactly what you were going to do anyway. And just tell us your observations. He could have just said, see, see me on your report after that's the mission. Or, you know, you know, how slow and does it? BCC me on your report later. That's right. Yeah. That's that's some secret of ass section 31 shit.
Starting point is 00:30:49 If the if the mission from Rambo first, blood part two was instead of taking pictures, just share the after mission report with an extra person. That's what this episode would be. Do we get the win this time? So Sloan drops this mission bomb in bishir's quarters and then leaves through the front door. Bishir grabs the strap and runs out into the hallway and almost blows Ezri's head off. You know how Ezri has been the main character of this season?
Starting point is 00:31:23 Not this episode. And also, Ezri has been prone to explosive violence lately, so I can kind of feel like she's not the person to hold at phaser point. But if you just shot Ezri, because she was the first thing that moved when he walked out of his apartment. I feel like Bishir's probably the best person on the crew for covering up a murder. Yeah, he would be great. He would know how to do all the tricks. Gold to cotton, the cup, gold to cotton. So Sloan is like very optimistic about what the outcome of the war is going to be, right?
Starting point is 00:31:57 Because like the, in the conversation, he's like, hey, so this war is going to be over pretty soon. And then the Cardassian Empire will be occupied. The Klingons are going to be totally fucked up because of the fact that they mess their ships up every time they get into combat. That will leave the Romulans and the Federation as the only two powers in the quadrant. We would like to just look to that so that we can have a leg up. And that really felt noticeable to me because I didn't feel like a win was a foregone conclusion
Starting point is 00:32:33 for most characters on this show, but for Sloan, it kind of is. So I'm glad this war's going to end. But she has got to tell Cisco what happened. Yes. Cisco what happened? And Cisco sees an angle here. He solicits Bashir into becoming a double agent. Yeah, this kind of mirrors the conversation that they had last time Sloan came around, which was. In the next time he asks you to join his little group, you will say yes.
Starting point is 00:33:03 Cisco says in this scene, I've asked around and I've basically been told stop asking and that either means section 31 is fake and Sloan is some other thing or the Federation actually does have a section 31 and they don't want people asking questions about it, but whichever one it is, but here, I want you to enter the Sloan Zone. We cut to Cisco, asking around about section 31 and he's like, look, I've been hearing about this part of the federation that's like, kind of, it operates in the basement of a pizza place and they're like harvesting the blood of kids.
Starting point is 00:33:46 It's pretty, have you heard anything about this? And Admiral Ross is like, you anti-semitic piece of shit. Just goes like, what? I'm just asking questions. So this coming on the heels of Sloan thing establishes that back back to back, Bashir has received an offers he can't refuses from a Sloan and Cisco.
Starting point is 00:34:11 And so armors are really piling up. These two missions running concurrently for Bashir. And it's a good thing he's a smart guy. He can hold all of this in his head at once. Bashir boards the USS Balerafon, which is a ship in the same class as the USS Voyager. Right. Very fun to see them just use the set from Voyager
Starting point is 00:34:35 for a deep space nine episode. It looks spacious. Every set on this ship has extremely high ceilings. Yeah. Really looks luxurious in there. So come on, I'll give you the tour. Ah, you know what, that's okay. I get it.
Starting point is 00:34:49 Yeah, I like Federation architectural, a lot more than I like Cardassian architecture. Yeah. Admiral Beltbuckle and Senator Cretezac are other dignitaries on the mission to Romulus, the conference that they're all going to be attending is pretty high level. I thought it was interesting that Bashir was even rubbing elbows with belt buckle and Cretac given their relatively high status in their respective governments compared to Bashir.
Starting point is 00:35:19 Like Bashir is a frontier medicine man and like belt buckle and Crete-tack are like statesmen and magistrates. So they're all like knocking back Romulan ails and you know the kind of trouble that that can spell. And one major downside of people getting a little loose lip is that folks will walk up and kind of butt into your conversation that you did not invite. And, uh, Wendell Greer, a map maker from the Federation, serves invites himself to talk to all of these high-power people in the Bashir Kri-Tak belt buckle chat.
Starting point is 00:36:03 It's Sloan Undercover is never say die reply guy. Ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha I just thought that this performance was really, really fun. Yeah, Alexander Siddig plays it really well. And then gets scolded by Sloan. Like Sloan grabs his elbow and walks him away and he's like, Hey, X-Nay on the Igbe action ray. Every time I walk into a room, I'm sort of undercover here. It be sure it's like, fuck you, man, you chose me. Like, this is what you get. Yeah, I'm not a trained spy.
Starting point is 00:36:49 I'm a trained physician. Damn it, Jim. Yeah, and what's great about like this sequence of scenes is that Bishir snitches right to Admiral Beltbuckle. You are? Yeah, after this. Like, it seems as though he's gonna be given more to do than just observe.
Starting point is 00:37:03 Like, as soon as he gets on the ship, Sloan makes this clear. And then he goes right to Beltbuckle and is like, this is probably a security threat. And Beltbuckle is like, well, we've looked into him. Like, we've vetted him and he has been a low-level diplomat for 15 years as far as the like, cartography department is concerned.
Starting point is 00:37:23 But like, let's keep tabs on him. If this is, in fact, Section 31, as you claim, like cartography department is concerned. But like, let's keep tabs on him. If this is in fact section 31, as you claim, like this may be more important, like this good become a diplomatic thing that we have to concern our will ourselves with, W slash R slash T, the Romulans. And it's a third time where Bashir has asked
Starting point is 00:37:42 to just like do the thing Sloan said. Right. So now he's got kind of three programs running at once in his brain. And to introduce a fourth program, we get him studying up on Robyn Lund Dignitaris with Sloan in his quarters on the Blarathon as they're on route to Romulus. They're like putting holograms of different Romulans, preator, Ted's dad that they take a look at. They're out. Formerly pro-concil, now preator of the Romulan star empire. What are you doing home, dad?
Starting point is 00:38:18 I love how it's like you choose your character scene from Street Fighter where the characters are like moving. They're breathing and blinking and stuff. Yeah, that's for sure. Yeah. The people that they're studying are high level. It's the head of the Romulan government and the chairman of the Tal Shiar. So, I guess, I don't know if Sloan is like the head of section 31, but if he is, then Koval is kind of his counterpart in Talshiar. And we're reviewing this after having read a novel and watched the series of Star Trek Picard,
Starting point is 00:38:54 which went a long way toward developing the mythos of the Romulans as like the species that is secretive to a fault, like the house that a Romulan lives in has a fake front door and a real secret door, somewhere else. I thought about that here too, yeah. And I feel like this canonically works in these scenes. Yeah. The secretiveness of the Romulans is totally being established here.
Starting point is 00:39:25 It's not as well developed as those later entries in the Star Trek universe, but I feel like this doesn't break that or vice versa. Right. Right. And it's fun to cut from the scene of the hollow dignitaries to meeting Kovval for real at this stuffy white uniform event. It follows. I like seeing them bust out the white dress uniforms from the riker Troy wedding. Yeah, that was going to be a custom only used once, but it's neat to see them again. It's neat, it's neat and it's awkward the way that you would expect a scene like this to be awkward.
Starting point is 00:40:02 It really gave me undiscovered country vibes. The like we don't really know how to interact with each other, but we are having a social gathering nonetheless. Kind of feeling. I love the contrast between Cretac and Covall is great. Like Senator Cretac, probably a cool hang. You can just tell like she's more open. Covall is just the worst.
Starting point is 00:40:24 You could have an ale with her, a Romulan ale, specifically. Yeah. Koval just comes up to Bishir and he's like, Hey, that the quickening disease, how about you tell me about how we could like, inflict that on people? Is that possible? And Bishir is like, technically?
Starting point is 00:40:40 Yeah. Could we possibly weaponize the quickening? They want their weapon. The first interaction between Koval is very awkward. And I love the framing on that scene because Admiral Belt buckle and Senator Creetak are in the deep background, almost out of focus. Just watching the whole thing.
Starting point is 00:41:02 And you can tell that they are both very intent on seeing what happens here, but also don't want the other person to know that they're very intent on it. Right. I really like that. It's great. I like character development in depth of field, you know? Totally. I'm fucking in pain. Mr. Bucket, I have to refer to better my best state. Oh, I don't use the bucket anymore. I love that we get to see Bashir's presentation.
Starting point is 00:41:31 Like, we get to see Bashir at work doing what he's there to do. And looks like a pretty good presentation. He's doing a lot like his slides or pictures and without any text on them. And that's always a good sign for a good presentation. But sheers Ted Talk, where he comes out with no shoes on, and the headset.
Starting point is 00:41:51 So what if we could solve the quickening in our time? What if it only took a glass of simple urine? And then he just fucking takes it to the dome in front of everyone. And then he gasps. Hey, don't make fun of taking things to the dome in front of everyone today at him. I mean, I mean, not wake up after doing something similar. So Bashir shows the quickening but does not tell. And after the presentation, he gets that good game, good game, good game receiving line
Starting point is 00:42:25 from everyone who was there. Which is great, that's gotta be a great feeling. You're doing an away game, doing a presentation, it feels like it was a great success. The suggestion has been made that coval may be sick. He may have some kind of rameal in disease. We've heard he's ill, something called tovans syndrome. One of the things Sloan wants to find out is like, if so, can we use it to get him dead
Starting point is 00:42:50 so that Senator Creteak can join the continuing committee and therefore be a powerful voice for pro-feteration peace in the Romulan government? Yeah, big stakes. Koval has got 25 years left, which sounds like a lot. Sloan wants to bump that up a little. Anything we can do, Dr. And it's awkward, right? Like there's there's that like wartime issue of like if we
Starting point is 00:43:20 Accelerate his disease, will it be plausible? Like accelerate his disease, will it be plausible? Like, like less than 5% of cases, the disease can take you down way quicker, but it doesn't seem like the kind of thing a dirty tricks organization, like section 31 would want to do because it might raise more questions than it answers. But like, there is a strategy, like if we could get him like exposed to a certain type of radiation That would be great and it's another just like run to daddy belt buckle moment for busier Right and belt buckle's perspective is maybe there are other leather clad spies here that aren't there just to take pictures Maybe Sloan has an accomplice on Romulus. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:44:07 I mean, the thing I love having read that Star Trek novel, especially, is like the Romulus pride themselves on being extremely deceitful as a people. And I like the idea that if a human-like Sloan is doing deceit, he can do it even better than a Romulan. You know? It's like a, oh, I mean, you guys pride yourself on deceit, but we're fucking good at everything. Yeah. Like, we're good at all of the above. And if I specialize in that, like, I can fucking run deceit rings around you. And that's sort of what is being implied here, right?
Starting point is 00:44:47 Like maybe everyone on the delegation is kind of a spy in one way or another. Yeah. Yeah, really raises the tension. It's fun. You know what else is fun is that shot of Romulus from orbit where there's just like, there's so many war breads. And then the polarathon is just like, D but dirt but dirt. I'm here too. It made me think a lot about the flight pattern in orbit.
Starting point is 00:45:09 Like and how the belirifon is cutting across the pattern in a way that seems very dangerous. Yeah, like the the pilot of the belirifon like cut to bridge of the belirifon and the pilot just like. There's so many fucking ships. This is like every 30 seconds I'm making an adjustment. And you know for every ship you're seeing, there's another eight that are cloaked.
Starting point is 00:45:32 Yeah, they just ram into one accidentally. Yeah, it also, you know, like the bullarifon is a Voyager size and class starship. So I mean, we've seen the D go nose to nose with these ships a million times. And I feel like it's always like scary, right? Like the Romulan ships are scary compared to the D and the Bollera Fond feels very naked because of that.
Starting point is 00:46:01 In the mess, Dr. Bashir here's some, he eavesdrops onto a conversation that is about Admiral Ross's health and that he has collapsed. And this is especially scary because in the scene that came before Admiral Beltbuckle's plan was to arrest Sloan. And so when we go from a scene where Beltbuckle's like, I'm going to have him arrested to the story of belt buckle collapsing with a health issue, it's kind of a scary time to be Dr. Bashir far from home. I love the way they did the the blocking in the scene because Bashir walks out of the room and the camera lands in the foreground with Sloan like taking a satisfied sip from his mug. Got him right where I want him.
Starting point is 00:46:49 You know not to trust anyone drinking the hotel lobby grapefruit juice though. That is not a good drink. Especially these days. So bitter. So where does Bashir go at this point? You got to find a friend. He's like Dr. Crusher, like people don't seem to know him. The world is shrinking around him. And the friend that he goes to is Senator Cretac of all people.
Starting point is 00:47:18 Which seems plausible because she's been the nicest person on the ship. Like she feels like a safe harbor. Right, and she actually has power here, like she is high up in the Romulan government could potentially move resources around to deal with this. And what Bashir imagines he's doing is avoiding a really bad diplomatic incident, right? Like the yeah, the
Starting point is 00:47:49 Federation like, offing a high-up intelligence official in the Romulan government would not go well for their alliance. And so he's saying like, listen, there's an assassination And so he's saying like, listen, there's an assassination that seems to be a foot. I'm guessing that somebody is involved inside your government. And she is like, I kind of see the logic of this. Caval has been saying the same thing, like that there's probably a traitor in the Senate. It's not easy for her to hear. She's not siked about the responsibility that's falling on her shoulders.
Starting point is 00:48:24 Did you get bumped a little bit here about the responsibility that's falling on her shoulders. Did you get bumped a little bit here about the hierarchy of danger? Because this scene is all about trying to find out who's going to try to kill Koval. An admiral belt buckle does not come up in conversation at all. And I felt like if you are on a Federation starship and someone is attempting to kill admirals, that is at least as important as this Koval situation. Yeah, but is Bashir trying to kind of play his cards in that, in like not mentioning it? Like, who knows?
Starting point is 00:49:00 It would seem that way. That would be the only reason not to bring it up. What are this in just the cards data? But that's a pretty sophisticated bit of business for someone who up to this point has been fairly unsophisticated in his ability to be a spy, you know? Right, but like that's something I really like
Starting point is 00:49:18 about the writing of this episode is that Sloan talks to be sure, like you're a fucking secrecy and spycraft nerd. Like, you fucking love this shit. And, you know, and Garrick the same way. Like, are you kidding me? Like, this is, this is a big part of your, like, of your interests as a person. So maybe he's like trying to rise to the occasion in that moment.
Starting point is 00:49:43 Yeah. Or maybe the writer's just forgot. Yeah. Or maybe the writers just forgot. Yeah, I mean, that's a lot of projection. Hahaha. Anyways, he, uh, he can't radio back to deep phase nine, right? Like there's some kind of communications blackout. So he's saying like, we've got to do this through your people or co-vol is going to be killed.
Starting point is 00:50:04 Yeah, I feel like at this point, Bashir starts to get a little squishy about what he knows about things, especially around Sloan. Cause Sloan really presses him on the diagnosis and Bashir's like, well, I mean, he might have it, but he also might not. It's really hard to say. Who can really say? Yeah, cause they have that meeting and Bashirirs like, well, I mean, he might have it, but he also might not. It's really hard to say. Who can really say?
Starting point is 00:50:26 Yeah, because they have that meeting and bishirs like, I know I came to you like with some strong observations about coval being probably sick with this, but in the early stages. But now I'm like wondering, do I know enough about Romulans to make a call like that? And my thinking is no. Sloan is like, well, if you can't tell by looking, maybe you can tell by touching. And so he encourages Bashir to try the sweaty palm technique for next time. So that like during the handshake, there will be some transfer onto this thing in his palm that will allow for a more accurate diagnosis.
Starting point is 00:51:06 Oh, there'll be a hot on the old town tonight. The hand shake is the last thing you want to do. Yeah. But yeah, but your shake's cold. There's that awkward moment, right, where he like puts his hand out for Koval to shake and Koval. Maybe this is a cultural difference. Maybe this is the first time anyone has tried to shake Koval's hand. He's like, sorry, Dr. we had a coronavirus on our planet recently and we are limiting our hand-to-hand contact with people. You can tell this is something that Bashir struggles with too because most of the time he's gone in for the handshake, he
Starting point is 00:51:45 too slows it and goes up to his hair. Yeah. Just got to leave that hand out. Yeah. Go follow his like, hey, you want to go somewhere a little quieter and just talk and brochures like I'd like that. So he brings him into the scariest room ever and starts filming an episode of Between Two Roms because like he gets sat down on this bench.
Starting point is 00:52:12 Two scary roms around either side of them and Koval has taken control of the situation. I have friends who are there. I keep coming over to our country and acting like you can control us and tell us what kind of country we should be and to obey the queen we're tired of it. You do not want the clip show devices to be attached while you're on Romulus. Yeah. This definitely reminded me of the things that they put on Jordies, temples when they scanned him.
Starting point is 00:52:55 Yeah. Good Romulan continuity. It's fun that Bashir's brains provide an adequate defense to this, though. Like, they are able to drill into him the way that they think they should. Yeah, they promise that they have other ways to make him speak. And that was an interesting threat because the next scene is Bashir walking into a meeting of the Romulan, like the highest level of the Romulan government. It's the pre-tour and all the top panel members. What is it called the Continuing Committee?
Starting point is 00:53:33 Sure. And like, my head immediately, especially with TNG as precedent, went to how does Bashir know he's not walking into a simulation right now? Dude, I thought it's exactly the same thing. There's something about the visual language here that makes me think, oh yeah, like giant hollow sweet. The future imperfect episode is the thing. It's all I could think about during this moment. Yeah. We go from a confined space to this wide open space and all these characters. Something about it really made me feel that way. And pray toward Naurol, aka Tedstad is there too. But she's not the main subject of questioning in
Starting point is 00:54:22 the scene. Senator Krita is, and she's gotten in trouble for accessing a Towshiar database. And that Bashir asked her to, and that just makes you feel sad, right? This is all Bashir's fault. He really threw her under the bus. Yeah. And they want him to kind of corroborate
Starting point is 00:54:39 her fantastical story. So he's like, yeah, like I got word from somebody in, you know, that was human, that there's this group called section 31 that I can't really tell if is part of the federation or not, that they wanted to kill Koval. And I didn't know who to trust. So I went to Senator Crete's Act, and we wanted to like stop whatever was happening so that Koval wouldn't be killed because I want to like establish trust between our people and Romans are like trust. What mean trust? It's like when you're invited to a party and you're told to bring appetizers and you can be relied on to bring appetizers and maybe something else
Starting point is 00:55:23 that's a little extra that the host didn't even ask for. And then their life. Next up really matters. Thanks for bringing these pigs in blanket. And oh nice, a bottle of wine as well. You shouldn't have. Also, Rambo brought a really giant knife to cut the hors d'oeuvres with. Kind of not the sort of tool you'd want to use kind of really dangerous.
Starting point is 00:55:47 It's like almost disordered such a big knife. Like what the hell? The sort of knife that you think requires an open carry permit. And this is like a perfect hall of mirrors, right? Like, but there's like, I wanted to talk to people back home that I knew, but I couldn't radio deep space nine because of the radio being turned off. Like everything was perfectly set up so that he would enlist Senator CreteTac and the decision comes down like Senator CreteTac is in big, big trouble and Bashir is getting kicked off of the planet's surface.
Starting point is 00:56:33 It's an interesting story, but it's not the whole story. Things have gone terribly on this mission. It's gone terribly for every Romulan Senator that has gone to these face-dime, frankly. Wow, yeah, good call. terribly for every Romulan Senator that has gone to these face-dives, frankly. Wow, yeah, good call. That's a bad job to get if you are in the Romulan Senate. Yeah. They bring in Sloan, and he is like a beat the hell up.
Starting point is 00:56:56 Koval knows all about Sloan. Under questioning, he has confirmed much of what the doctor and the senator have told you with one important exception. He has actually been able to scan Sloan's brain. He's like, yeah, section 31 doesn't exist. That's nothing. This guy's got just normal brains. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:57:13 We get a lobotomize him easily, but sure you know all about that. He's just a rogue agent. He's been trying to violate the laws of the federation. And it's so disappointing, right? Yeah. Like they start going over Sloan's bio and he's just like a regular fucking throne. I know. Like like in this scene, you're like, God, fucking Cisco and Bashir were so fucking shook by this clown. Yeah. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:57:38 I like that this episode does this to us. Yeah, like he fucking took them for a ride in that other episode. And now, and now here is his naked in front of the fucking continuing committee of the Romulan government. Just beat to hell. And like, and like when the synthesis start coming down, like he gets the worst deal of all, They're like, we're gonna take this guy and fucking put some pipes to his legs and he does that thing where he goes for somebody's cat basket and gets their disruptor out of it. And Koval is the one that vapes him.
Starting point is 00:58:18 It's a really fun courtroom scene. Yeah. Yeah. Like the courtroom scene begins with like, the every lawyer dreams of like the the pen-ash of of proving your point the the verdict and the sentences going bang bang bang like everything is going great for the ROMs here. Yeah. And then that cat basket scene is is great. Yeah. Nicely done. So, Bashir, back to the ballerafon, and he's tossing and turning, thinking about what happened to him, and he finds Admiral Beltbuckle doing some late night office work, and he's like, something doesn't quite add up. Right, and the thing that doesn't add up is,
Starting point is 00:59:06 like, as believable as the Sloan story was, it didn't quite work for Bashir. Yeah. Bashir believes Sloan is still alive. What can I do for you? I have a question. Where's Sloan? Belt, Michael, does a pretty interesting move here,
Starting point is 00:59:23 which he says, we're gonna have to have this conversation off the record. And he removes his combat. Are the combat is recording everything that happens? I love what is established as canon in this moment. What the fuck? The record means take off your combat. It's like, are we gonna go kill Doros? Like, what do you mean take off your combat?
Starting point is 00:59:45 I wanna go back to all those moments where Wurf resigned by sticking his combat on the table and replay them because I think we cut away from those scenes too soon. If we stay in the scene, Picard looks up at Wurf and is like, what do you wanna go off the record for? What's going on, bud? Yeah, take a knee. What's what's happening here? That's what it means. But she does the whole Sherlock discussion of like everything that happened.
Starting point is 01:00:17 Galaxy brains was for a reason you had your aneurysm, you were out of the picture, I had to go to CreteTac. Now she's fucked, why is she fucked? We've already established technology that can beam bullets as they're fired. Obviously, it's possible to beam a person away as they're being shot. And that was a bit of payoff there. He was supposed to be beamed away a split second before the phaser beam hit him. Whether it worked or not, I couldn't say. There was kind of a lot of arterial spray in the courtroom that we can't explain.
Starting point is 01:00:51 So maybe it worked, maybe it didn't. The upshot here is that Koval has been working with Starfleet Intelligence. He's been giving them all kinds of information. Everyone's a double agent. Ross was perfectly happy to trade Cretac's life for having Koval go onto the continuing committee because they have actionable trust where the information from him. And he explains it like Cretac is a patriot. Like she wants to do what's best for Romulus at all times, no matter what. And that means
Starting point is 01:01:26 if making a deal with the Dominion happens to be that next week, she would do it. She's not down for our alliance. She's down for Romulus. Full stop. And Koal is a little bit more of like a real politic actor. But she is so disgusted at hearing this. He can't even put his communicator back on before leaving. Yeah. Which may actually mean that he's resigning. Yeah, we never see him with the communicator on again in the episode, right? Because the button on the episode is him waking up again on Deep Space Nine.
Starting point is 01:02:03 We see him having lunch with Worf the next day and Worf looks at his chest and he's like, so you've resigned? Or are you just going to kill a member of a house that has crossed you? Yeah. But she wakes up and again, Sloan is in his bedroom.
Starting point is 01:02:21 And it's a, hey, thanks for all your help, little buddy. Don't overlook my bat. I work out all the time and reaping burns a lot of calories. Nocturnal Sloan is never a good thing. You wonder about this year, right? Because he's like a genius and his brain is so special that it can't be penetrated by the Romulans, but also like Sloan is so special that it can't be penetrated by the Romulans, but also like Sloan seemed to give either coval reported fake results from the brain scan, which I guess is maybe the better explanation, but also like possible that Sloan can fake results
Starting point is 01:03:01 in a brain scan somehow. But but she was supposed to be like this brilliant genius and Sloan can just trick him. Yeah, which one of those is true? Right. Is Bashir a genius or is is Sloan a super super genius? Doesn't seem like that would be the case. Yeah. Like why does Bashir do even do the interview with Borat's daughter if he is such a fucking great lawyer?
Starting point is 01:03:29 Yeah, yeah, it really makes you think. Did you like the episode, Adam? Yeah, I did quite a bit actually. It felt like one of those episodes that was really constructed carefully. bit actually. It felt like one of those episodes that was really constructed carefully. And I really respond to episodes like this. It felt very intentional with all of its pieces. It fit together really well in a way that was satisfying. I agree. It was a super fun episode. It's writing an episode on hard mode because you write an episode like this and you're sort of asking the audience to poke holes in it. Like see if you can find where the cracks are and I didn't find a lot of them.
Starting point is 01:04:16 Like it was, it really had me. I really liked the use of the Voyager set. Yeah. Like as a choice, it really made the moment feel different. It was effective in making the stakes high because we're changing ships and we're bringing belt buckle along. Like there are a lot of factors that made it seem like this was a significant moment.
Starting point is 01:04:42 It's really great use of Star Trek as a place. And it's also, it made me wonder, so was Voyager on a by-week that week or were they shooting an episode of Voyager that took place not on the ship that week? And if so, how do we coordinate that between two writers rooms? Like, okay, we gotta line these two up somehow.
Starting point is 01:05:05 Like, there's fun, like, production stuff that must have taken place because of that. It looks to me like the producers were in constant contact about it, and then they just tried to make the schedule work. Like, they were on a different sound stage over a voyager, and that allowed them to be able to use the ship sets. I love this episode. Pretty great.
Starting point is 01:05:26 That's what you want. You want your shows talking to each other and working collaboratively. Yeah, yeah, that's cool. Well, Adam, do you want to see if we have any priority one messages in the old inbox? I'm out of my way there right now. Priority one message from Starfleet
Starting point is 01:05:40 coming in on Secured Channel. I need a supplement on that. supplement on that? supplement. supplement. We need a supplemental uncle. Supplement? Supplement. Supplement. Yeah, it's extra. But the interest alone could be enough to buy this ship. Adam, we have a couple of priority one messages.
Starting point is 01:05:55 The first one here is from Cousin Bow and it's two Cousin band and it goes like this. This P1 comes as you are saving lives for a third COVID ward rotation and two months out from your first kid. Pro Dad Tip. If you are up late with baby, Ben and Adam are a great company. Why not enjoy piss jokes while cleaning piss? Perfect.
Starting point is 01:06:20 I know you'll be a better dad than Worf and are a better doctor than Bashir. PS. How dare you pass on TGG 2018 LA show in Pediatrics rotation. What the fuck? Wow. Wow. Cousin Ben could have come to our live show in 2018 back when things weren't that fucked up and... Really missed out. God working co-foot ward. I can't imagine. Yeah, thank you cousin Ben for for doing that Where you're fucking masks everyone. Yeah, try to try to help out our our friend of the pseudo cousin Ben here Please, please, please Ben our second priority one message is
Starting point is 01:07:03 From crew member on the USS Corona, and it is to all friends of Shimoda. Well, message goes like this, this is for Ben Adam, the greater or greatest Shimoda family, and all of maximum fun, hang in there. Thanks for keeping me relatively sane, while the transporters are down
Starting point is 01:07:20 and all the shuttlecraft are out of service, and I'm trapped on this stupid ship with my stupid loved ones Yeah Yeah, we're all on our separate ships. It seems that's how it feels. I alluded to the fact that I'm under Quarantine directive right now in our Marin Adam and That is because my wife probably falsely, but she tested positive for the virus about a week ago as of this recording and we're supposed to do two weeks of self isolation and we're doing our best to do that.
Starting point is 01:08:02 We've tested negative twice both of us since her positive test. So we're like cautiously optimistic that she's not going to get sick or anything. But yeah, it's been a good reminder that this thing is nowhere near being behind us. So just try to try to be safe. And thank you to all of the medical folks out there that are working hard to get as many people through this as they can and thanks to everyone who is taking it seriously and masking up and you know limiting how much time they spend in public. Yeah it doesn't take a lot to do a lot of help yeah it just takes caring about other people. So, yeah.
Starting point is 01:08:46 Wear your mask, please. Get, just enjoy being trapped on a stupid ship with your stupid loved ones. Right. See what not wearing your mask does? It possibly infects one of the hosts of greatest generation. Yeah. There are stakes involved here.
Starting point is 01:09:02 That would be better. Want me to do the show alone, right? That would suck. I mean, better than if I did the show alone, but... I don't know, Ben. I think we need you around. I hope it's a false positive, buddy. I think it is. But, all that being said, get a P1
Starting point is 01:09:21 had to maximumfund out of our slash Jembo Tron. We really appreciate it. Gotta get that gold press like. Gotta get that gold press like. Am I right? Oh yeah. Am I right? Oh yeah.
Starting point is 01:09:33 Gotta get that gold press like. Gotta get that gold press like. Gotta get that gold press like. I'm right. I'm right. I'm right. I'm right. I'm right.
Starting point is 01:09:42 I'm right. I'm right. I'm right. I'm right. I'm right. I get my size? Hey Adam. It's that Ben. Did you find yourself a... a drunk Shemoda? Drunk Shemoda! Take it, pour the stuff, stack it up! Doesn't give a fuck everybody's drunk and touch it yours!
Starting point is 01:09:57 Kidding robot, bump, bim, bim, bim, bim, bim! NO! Get the drunk Shemoda! Get the drugs, Shimbota! Get the drugs, Shimbota! I think it's gonna be Sloan. He's the guy with the 40,000-foot view of everything. He's pulling all the strings. Like, I think, I don't think there's a moment
Starting point is 01:10:20 where he doesn't keenly know what's happening. Like, like, he looked like he had plausible battle damage when he was wheeled into the courtroom. Yeah. Like, I love shit like that. Like, he allowed himself to be tortured maybe? That's pretty hardcore.
Starting point is 01:10:40 Indeed. He was in command the whole time and I think who's having more fun than Sloan this episode? That makes him my drunk Shimoda. What about you? My drunk Shimoda is going to be a Admiral belt buckle. There's that scene on the Bolerofon with Bashir, Treetack, and belt buckle where they're knocking back tumblers of Romulan ale and belt buckle does the the new liquor drinker thing of
Starting point is 01:11:10 having a big coughing fit. That was big fun. It was big fun and he like mentions that it used to be illegal. So something about the warming relations between the Romulan Star Empire and the United Federation of Planets has led to the end of Romulan Ale Prohibition. Parties in the streets, but I loved that Admiral Beltbuckle is such a cop that this is the first time he's even tried it. Yeah. He would never be good at going undercover and having to do the drugs on the table, you know? Right, right. That was fun. It was a really funny moment, like a much funnier moment than I think I would have realized
Starting point is 01:11:57 when I may have first watched this in 1999 or whatever. I think the casting is one of the big reasons. Like there's something about belt buckle and the way he looks and carries himself that is very like, like dad from one tree hill, type, like he just seems very, very non-threatening and innocent and this is a scene that underscores that idea. Like he just can't's he'll never be the
Starting point is 01:12:27 type to do the drugs. Yeah, absolutely. He's a fucking square man. Yeah. Well, speaking of squares, we have a square game board ban at the game of but holes. Will the profits? you are right about that sir. I'm gonna head over to the game Of course the next episode Adam is season seven episode 17 Penumbra well as researchers for a missing warf Cisco makes plans to marry Cassidy yates Wow makes plans to marry Cassidy, Yates. Whoa. Damn, you know, all the tragedies end in death and all comedies end in a marriage.
Starting point is 01:13:11 So this should be a funny episode, Adam. Is that out works? Cool. Who do you think the efficiency is gonna be? I think it's gonna be Vic. Oh, yeah, you're probably right. I'm gonna be fucking Vic. Anyways, let me go ahead and roll this a here bone. You're required to learn as you play. We are
Starting point is 01:13:34 currently wedged right in between a quirk's bar and a looking at each other during on square 55 and if we skip over that looking at each other during on square 55. And if we skip over that, looking at each other during, I don't think there's anything they old run about can hit. But let's see what happens here. Chula! Did I win? The role was a two on square 57 regular episode next week. That's great.
Starting point is 01:14:05 Looking forward to that. Yeah. Thanks for listening to the greatest generation. Thanks for tuning in, those of you who did to the video portion of the show that we recorded on Instagram. We gave a little heads up about 10 minutes before we did that on Twitter.
Starting point is 01:14:22 And then we took it over to the Instagram. And if you would like to be able to tune in next time, I highly recommend you give us a follow. It's at greatest trek on both platforms. And is it really fun follow because we got our buddy Bill Tilly running the accounts. And he is just, uh, he's just making it a super fun hang over there. It's re-sweating cool Star Trek stuff and giving you the birthdays of beloved cast members and it's a fun time. He's re-sweating the trading cards he makes every week.
Starting point is 01:15:00 Good to be in business with Bill. Indeed. Also good to be in business with our buddy Adam Ragusia, who makes the theme music for the program. He of course is a trained composer, but also a YouTube'sman. He has a really cool cooking show on YouTube where he teaches you all about food science and teaches you great recipes that almost anybody could reproduce in their home and become a better cook for it. Like,
Starting point is 01:15:32 understanding why cooking techniques work is, I think, a big part of Adam and Gusey's ethos. Like, why would you do something and why does it make something taste better than doing it a different way? It's really great. He does a great job over there. We're grateful to have him involved in our show. Yeah, where he is a cool cool friend. Where he's committed to making music for us long into the future. Speaking of our shows, Adam, we have another Star Trek podcast. You're not going to believe this. We do an entire extra Star Trek podcast every week. It's called The Greatest Discovery. And over there, we are reviewing Star Trek Discovery and Lower Decks and Star Trek Picard.
Starting point is 01:16:18 And we also have reviewed a bunch of comic books and old episodes of the original series and novels and all kinds of things. Yeah, it's a supplemental Star Trek podcast, Ben. I'd say you could make it your main Ben and Adam Star Trek podcast if you wanted. Yeah, why not? I mean, that wouldn't have banned in the greatest generation. As long as you subscribe to the three shows of Uxbridge, Shimoda, greatest generation, greatest discovery in the hit war movie podcast friendly fire. I think it doesn't matter which one becomes your favorite. Yeah, but you have to listen all three.
Starting point is 01:16:55 Right. Well, with that, we'll be back to you next time with another great episode of Star Trek Deep Space 9. And an episode of the greatest generation, Deep space 9 that I'm almost, I'm already a little nervous about needing to make a speech during this wedding. Do you think you're gonna be Ben Sisko's best man? Who else is it gonna be? It's gonna be one of those, uh, hey, uh, a lot of you may or may not know me, I am Adam. It may come as some surprise that I'm Ben Sisko's best friend going back to our days at the Academy.
Starting point is 01:17:35 A lot of people thought Calvin Hudson was his best friend and that used to be true. However, you might have noticed I'm wearing my combat especially low in honor of Calhuts and Calhuts in the criminal. You know, I was told not to bring this up. Cassidy Yates also a criminal. So, I mean, kind of a track record here, Ben Sisko.
Starting point is 01:18:01 Bit of a track record, but obviously, while Calhuts and has not served his debt to society, Cassidy did do some pretty hard time. And we, I would say the first time I want to raise my glass tonight is to Cassidy for serving her debt to society. And let's raise those glasses again for we all know that Cassidy Yates will be serving more hard time Make it so. Make it so. Make it so. Make it so. Make it so. Make it so. Make it so.
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