The Greatest Generation - Trill Wills (DS9 S7E1)

Episode Date: August 17, 2020

When Captain Sisko gets a new job, the hours are almost murder. But when his father’s shady past is unearthed, an impromptu family vacation is suddenly on the menu. How long does it take to recover from a lethal break-up? What’s the deal with a mesh bar? Is that table a Founder? It’s the episode that proves we’re not that kind of nerd!

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I'm Ben Harrison. You know, it feels like when we started the deep space nine part of Greatest Gen, that it was like a brand new show we were getting. Yeah. And it would be years of work for us. Years! And having finally gotten to the seventh and final season of this show feels a little scary. I can't believe that the time has gone by so fast.

Yeah. I mean, there's still a half a year left of this fine program. Yeah. Nothing to sweat about at the moment. And there's plenty of other Star Trek out there that has been so far left unturned. Yeah, no one's ever talked about any of the other Star Trek shows, so maybe we could do something with them. Yeah, maybe. We'll see. One thing that we got recently in the mail atom is about the previous series in the Star

Trek franchise of television programs, Star Trek, the next generation. I'm familiar. You remember that? That's the original series from Friends of Disotto. That's it, they call it. Yeah. But it's a board game, but it's got trivia, and there are like decks of cards in here that have trivia questions.

And I don't know how we would play a board game on this program at them. But I do know how to ask you trivia questions. Do you want to try out a little TNG trivia throwback segment. I love it. Let's play a game. He's very interested in pitting his skill against yours. I'd like to see your neural flex turn down a bit. My deductions should be treated with skepticism. Ready? Begin.

I'll be TNG Wapper and you'll be Ferris Bueller sticking your phone into my cradle. Alright, so what we have here is a big ol' honken deck of cards. Looks like it. I believe they all have trivia questions on them. Jack tells me you got a great big deck. I don't know, I don't know, I guess so. Alright, and I'm going to ask you some questions. This first one is from that episode

where there was a guy who was the first officer and they'd all lost their memories and he was insinuating himself into the crew below Captain Picard, but above Commander Riker. Executive officer, Commander Kieran McDuff. This was the episode that I famously experienced for the first time via radio because I was grounded. Do you remember the story?

Right. Which was the ultimate way to experience this episode. There's no reason anyone listening to this would know to do it this way. But if you haven't watched TNG and you decide to start, you should stop before getting to that episode and listen to it without seeing it. It's a trip.

Yeah. I've actually recently learned that a lot of people listen to our show just as audio, primarily. They're like missing out on the video aspect. That's insane to me. That there's been the video feed the entire time. All the sight gags that they're missing out on. What have I been looking into if this hasn't been a camera?

Ha ha ha. Alright, first trivia question. Where was the rescue shuttle hit when the tamerianship fired on it? That's from the Darmak and Jalad. Darnaga. The episode if I'm not mistaken. And you've got multiple choice answers here. Did it fire on A, the communications array,

B, the portness cell, or C, the starboardness cell? I'm guessing between two nacelles and a communications array. Yeah. Oh, then it's gotta be the communications array, right? Because they've got to be marooned on the planet together. Unfortunately, you're wrong, it was C, the starboardness cell.

Oh, oh! The starboardness cell has been rendered inoperable. That's all. This is a level one question. There are a level two questions in this card. I know there is a brand of Star Trek nerd that remembers specific missiles as targets in certain circumstances. I'm just not that kind of nerd.

Do you want to hear a level two question? Yeah, lay it on me. Picard realized the Tamarian spoke in what form in Darmak? This is not a multiple choice. Yeah, you don't get multiple choice at level two. You just got to throw something out. It's like in metaphor, like someone's- That's the answer. You got it.

Really? It was a long time ago. All right, I'm gonna give you like two more questions. I'll give you another level one and another level two. Great. How's that sound? I love it. Who on the USS Enterprise was assigned to the task of figuring out the motives and language

of the Tamarians in Darmak. Is it A, Lieutenant Commander Data and Counselor Troy, B, Lieutenant Commander Data and Commander Riker, or C, Lieutenant Commander Data and Lieutenant Commander Jordy LaForge? I feel like if we're on the game show version, the television show of this board game, the celebrity panelist that I clearly am at this point, would riff on the potential comedy answers of such a question. Sure. Like, why wouldn't it be guiding in data? Like, wouldn't that be hilarious or barkly, barkly famous for his ability to communicate

with people and data? Right. This is going to really anger some people if I get it wrong. I feel a lot of pressure about this. I think it's Troy and data that were the team for this. You are correct. Further study at maybe possible, then do it. DeGonna help him. I want something by 0900 hours.

Isn't that a sensible answer, like a writerly team up to solve this mystery would be would be the brain power of data and the emotional power of de-entitroid. Right. It's raw computational intelligence and emotional intelligence paired up. If Troy told data to tap that thing on his neck, do you think it's possible that data could just take his head off? With the strength of the tapping? Yeah, that's kind of a unstoppable force and movable object. Could God make something so big he couldn't move it himself? Kind of question.

I think of how fast he could tap his own neck. Data, you just want to do like rhythmic circles, okay? Don't just want to hammer that thing. This is a question that I'm going to give you tiered points on the answer. So I'll ask the question and then I'll tell you like what the tiers are. The question is who was Darmock? And you can get a point for occupation, and you can get five points for what planet Darmach was from.

I feel like Darmach was an explorer. Darmach and Jalad were like on the ocean, right? But Jarmach and Jalad, crucially, were not on the ocean together at the beginning. They're in line the import of the metaphor to Captain Daithon. So are you asking you for an occupation? Yeah, I'm asking you for an occupation

and a home planet. I mean, is explorer an occupation? Is hunter an occupation? I think that's. Hunter it is. That's what I'm after, yeah. Okay. Now for the big cash prize. Can you guess what planet?

Darmak was from I don't even have a joke answer for this It's basically impossible. Yeah, what's the answer? The planet is chantil three chantil three man that question's bullshit man that question's bullshit. Darmak is the name of a mytho historical hunter on chantil 3. God damn it. I really wanted to get both of those right. I love that Darmak was the subject of the first card that we ever pulled out of this box. I mean one of the most famous episodes of TNG, and I really, in public, just crap the bed on trivia. You got most of the questions right at him. Let this be a lesson for anyone

who wants a pseudo celebrity to join their trivia team at a future Star Trek convention. Yeah. I might not be the right guy for that. Though you and I are a great tag team and have been before at a Star Trek trivia at conventions. Yeah, I went to a Star Trek trivia night with Danny Baruela from the Max Fun Home Office and Ben Fritz. It was a hell of a combination.

It was like a pub trivia night, and it was the first and only time I've ever done pub trivia. Because you like me when you're ever at a pub and you hear someone turn on a PA system and announce that trivia is about to start, pay your check and you leave. Yeah. That has been my tradition in the past,

but we did pretty good. Like we were in the upper five teams of the Star Trek trivia teams. And there was one guy who was there by himself with no one else who took the whole thing. He had every single answer. He ran the board on Star Trek pub trivia. And this was like across TOS, up through JJ Abrams films, like everything was in play.

It was a fun ringer. And he fucking destroyed it. It was unbelievable. Well, that guy sounds like fun. It came alone. Hey, I respect anyone who goes to a bar alone. I'm occasionally that guy, but the trivia alone goes to a bar alone. I'm occasionally that guy, but trivia alone

is a totally different animal. I think that the thing about it is that structured fun is really great for some people and not great for other people. And I think that that's why pub trivia has not been a strong draw for me because structured fun is less fun to me than unstructured fun. Right. But it seems to me that it's like a group activity that you're getting involved with. I mean, and that is why on the worksheet, there is a place for you to

enter all of the names of the people on your team. Yeah. That was what was so terrifying about this one guy who just sat there quietly. Was was was his team name his name? Like you're supposed to come up with fun names to contribute to. It was Derek. My improv team name is Chad. That's it. Well, I'm speaking of Chad, a country with a great big desert filled with sand.

Do you want to get involved with the episode we came to review today? It's taken seven seasons to get a pivot quite that crisp. As we go from Marin to Deep Space 9 season 7, episode 1, it's called Image in the Sand. And we get a great big last time on DS9 package. It's been, it's been months since we've seen the season finale. We are reminded that kind of a lot happened in that episode. We've got Cisco leading the raid on Cardassia. We've got Poddukat killing Jed Zeodax. We've got the profits leaving and turning all of their orbs black. And then Ben Sisko

Doing a little mid-career change. Yeah going to go work in hospitality Taking as as a debudor of clams in the back of of Sisko's restaurant Pretty wild that like I can't imagine if you're like Pretty wild that like I can't imagine if you're like Supreme Allied commander Europe in World War II. If you wanna go take like a three month break, they would just let you come back to it eventually. Right. We don't get any answers on that in this episode,

but the idea that people are still walking around in Deep Space Nine going like, I wonder if Ben Sisko's ever gonna come back. I mean, obviously the job here's if he wants it. I think Admiral Beltbuckle is a fucking cuck. Like, do you think Nechev would have let Picard walk off the job just to go like find himself after a particularly hard day of work? I don't smell airy, can't it be? I'm from the trap.

Where can I place my ass? That's in its back of the shop living! of work. No, Nichev does not fuck around the way Admiral Belfuckle obviously does. Picard as Lecudus killed thousands of people and I think he took a week off afterwards to go wrestle around in the mud on his vineyard and then he was right back to it. Yeah. That guy's made a sturdy stuff. He didn't have the spiritual catastrophe before him that Ben Sisko did. But yeah, the station is also having a strange spiritual reaction to what has happened? We open with Cura and Odo

Standing on L2 of the promenade looking down at a bunch of people with red arm bands praying outside the Bajurin shrine since it seems the prophets have abandoned them They've sort of formed a cult around the Paw Rathes a Branch Paw Rathians if will. I like the pivot from gentle religious monkish bejorins to suddenly red arm band people religious bejorins. Totally. Having cropped up, I think that's an interesting

development here. Yeah, here's a tip. If your religion starts asking you to wear a red arm band, maybe think about a different religion. Kira has been the beneficiary of a promotion. She is now Colonel Kira. Does not roll off the tongue the way Major Kira does. That's going to take some getting used to.

Also taking some getting used to is her, can I speak to the profits haircut with two friendship bracelets kind of woven into it? You know what I noticed? Her haircut in the pilot is very similar to the haircut she has here in season seven. It's like, I think basically like, from a hair fashion standpoint, like seven years earlier version of this haircut. It's so hard to go full circle with a haircut. Whether you're an actor or just a person in the world, how often do you go back seven years to a haircut that you've had previously? Never happened. Yeah.

So Kira and Odo are catching up on the upper level and they're sort of talking about Admiral Beltbuckle being on his way to the station and what it may mean for them. It's expected that it's not gonna be any kind of news that they would want. Right, I mean it's troubling times. Odo, uncharacteristically, is the voice of optimism in this scene and is counseling

Colonel Kira not to lose hope. Odo has also grown out his hair in the in the interim. Yeah. And a kind of an asymmetrical Bob. Still can't nail the face. But a very plausible Bob. I mean, it seems silly, but couples tend to start to look the same. And my ability to alter my own appearance, I figured I should take that as literally as possible.

It's about this time that the little D returns. And this is under the command of, Commander Wurf. Wurf is just going through a bad time at the moment. Dr. Bashir and Nug and Chief O'Brien are all aboard and they're all kind of rung out from all of the escorting convoys that they've been doing, but these self-stealing symbols aren't going to babysit themselves. It's a classic, tired from work scene that I feel like we've gotten kind of a lot on DS9.

In a way, I feel like we never got on TNG. When were we ever tired on Star Trek the next generation? There was not one episode when they like couldn't get sleep. Like they couldn't get their REM cycles. When Captain Picard and Wurf and Beverly were turned into action heroes, when Jellico was given the ship they were tired from training. Yeah. But there was never like the boy boy what a mission, huh?

There should be a Loregan's convoy duty last in more than 10 days. Anyway, gonna go get some shut-eye. But it's been three months since Jadzee attacks has died and everyone's looking at each other like when is Worf gonna get over his dead wife? It's been three months. What's wrong with him? It's like his wife dies and he's still sad about it three months later. What's the equation Ben? Like when you're when you're with someone for how long, how long are you allowed to grieve after they die before your co-workers are allowed to openly wander. I mean, there's a lot of grief of foot. Warf is grieving, and in a big way, Cisco is grieving. We cut to Cisco's restaurant where Ben is dressed as though he's working in the kitchen,

but he's out in the dining room playing piano. Not much of a showman with his public entertaining. I think part of it is like he's wearing that big white Haines beefy tee. A shirt that is famous mostly for being not that comfortable. Yeah, got a bit of a bacon neck problem happening to it. He's like the dancer from the Dirty Vegas Days Go by video where he's been playing piano all day. Yeah. From seven in the morning until that evening. And he's like, he's in a kind of trance like playing piano marathon. Look, I'm worried too.

He's got something to work out. Best do we leave him alone. I feel like if I was so depressed that I left work and went and lived with my family on earth a paradise where nobody has to do anything to earn a living, I would not be getting up at the crack of fuck, you know, I'd be sleeping in a little bit Getting up at 7 a.m. This it down and start tinkling the ivory sounds like sounds like an exacerbating Action like he wants to be depressed Maybe uh, maybe today is a day. I'll tinkle the ivories. Maybe I'll just debiard clams for 14 hours. I mean, either one sounds great.

Yeah. As he's playing, uh, his baseball sort of, sort of magnetically finds its way to the edge of the piano and falls onto the floor. And when he reaches for it, he flashes into a profit-fishing. Yeah. His ball kind of falls into the sand. Let me get that for it. He flashes into a profit-fishing. Yeah, his ball kind of falls into the sand. Let me get that for you. He hears a voice from under the sand that he tries to unearth.

Oh, I'm in burn here for thousands of years. This is one of those fun, practical slash comp effects that is fun to think about doing, right? We've got a real actor and a real face buried in a sandbox, but we also have mass-comping going on, and we've got to make the effect hang together between the two.

It's fun. Yeah, it looks great. Yeah, he finds the face of a woman in the two. It's fun. Yeah, it looks great. Yeah, he finds the face of a woman in the sand. It becomes his new mission from this point forward. He's not interested in clams anymore. He's interested in finding out who this is. She doesn't say anything. Like, he gets the shroud off of her face and she opens her eyes

and then he's back in the restaurant with for some reason Jake trying to snap him out of it. I think I feel like for some reason Jake will have seen this enough times at this point to not have his first question be. Yeah. What's wrong? For some reason Jake treats his dad's many profit visions as a brand new concept every time. It's like old time. It's like, oh my God, what just happened? I'm beginning to think that for some reason, Jake is the one with the problem, and it's not his dad.

Ha, ha, ha, ha. That's why he has to write everything down. He's got the memory of a goldfish. He's the Sammy J.A.C.S of Deep Space Nine. After the theme Admiral Beltbuckle is on the same straining at the inside of his belt, telling Kira that as leader of the station, she's just going to have to accept that a senator Romulan is going to be setting up shop on the station with a bunch of other ROMs to go along with them. And this kind of flies

in the face of what I thought the station was supposed to function like. I kind of thought the Bejorins ran the station and the federation had to ask permission for shit like this, but Bellbuckle mandates that this is going to happen, and Kira is just going to have to eat it. I came here as a courtesy to you. This decision has already been made. That's such a squishy concept. It's a pejorin station, except for it's got a federation name.

And it seems like the buck kind of stops with the federation, but currently Kira is the head of the station and reports to Admiral Beltbuckle. I think it says a lot that in the three months that he's been away, Kira has not redecorated the office at all. Yeah, still a bunch of Federation ship models on the, on the, uh, banquets. I was remembering how I felt when Picard was gone, Angelico immediately decorated the radio room and how that made me feel and how in a subtle way I understand how this tells

us that Kira is expecting Sisko to walk through the doors anytime. And I'm cool with that. I think that's the right move. But also I would like to know how she would have decorated that office. So I feel like we're deprived of that idea, you know. She's got to have really complicated feelings about that office given that the two predecessors she has had in it were the emissary of the prophets and the butcher of Bejor. I agree. There is a thread there that is unpoled. I think there are two or three episodes

that could have happened before this one. Yeah doesn't feel like it's totally picking up the stories that it left off with. It almost feels like it's kind of resetting the board in a way. It feels more like a first episode of season one in some ways. I typically like a kind of episode that just sort of drops you into a story and you're meant to tread some water and figure out where your pieces went between last season and this. But you know, we are given that kind of story at the expense of a fairly interesting episode that we didn't get, which was like, did they transport the DAC symbion? Ankylis or? Back to Trill in a jar. And then like, what was the process for that, for example?

And what happened to Jadzi's body? Did somebody have to roll like Riker and have it in their belly for a while on the way? Right, is there a temporary like a, when you don't pass the trill test, you know, maybe you can be a temp. Yeah, it's puff puff pass when it comes to a trill symbiant. Gold to cotton, the cup, gold to cotton.

So, speaking of substance abuse problems, back on Cardassia, wayune and demar are discussing the state of things, W. Slashar, Slash T. The War. And according to them, this still feels very winnable. They feel like they've got the enemy fleet sort of cornered. And any excuse to drink is one that Demar will take. I'd offer you a glass, but I know how much you dislike Kenar. And it's clear that he has been drinking on the job. And this is something that inspires way you and to do a bit of a soft intervention.

Yeah. He takes a look at Demar and he's like, I'm beginning to think you like it too much. Demar, I look at you and I just see, I just see a lot of cardassians who love you a lot. Hahaha. Will you commit to going and getting help for your canar problem today?

We've got a piece of yellow legal pad paper that he's written some thoughts down on. Tomorrow does not believe he has a problem. And right now I feel like celebrating. He's getting so drunk he's asking questions like, you ever wonder what happens inside a wormhole? And he's like continuing to slug him back and wae yous, like giving him the look like I am not drunk enough

to be having this conversation. Yeah, sorry dude, we're just on a very different wavelength right now. Yeah. There's something kind of sad about somebody who's drunk often enough that people just openly talk about their problem in front of them. Yeah, and to Mars that guy, isn't he? Yeah. I wish, I wish to Mars had a little bit more of a legged body, you know. I think that he's

risen to the top of Cardassian society, but he doesn't like carry himself like he's the boss, you know? He's been drinking a lot. I mean, leaders are often more sedentary. Yeah, I mean, heavy lice the crown, obviously, but like have him have him lean forward for no reason, like an about to jump ski jumper. Yeah, really, really round out the image of Demar. Back on Earth, Cisco was trying to figure out who this lady was that he saw in the sand and he's using the 24th century version of Face app to do it.

He's making like a police sketch of this lady, the great big red iPad. It's a lot like the create your own custom character tool on like an EA sports Tiger Woods video game 2009 scenario like here are your four pairs of eye shapes and your three hairstyles. That always pisses me off in those design your own characters is the mull. You can never put the mull where you want it. It's not like there's only four possible places a mull could be. Yeah.

If only I was that easy. I have a prominent face mull and I've never seen it represented in video games. And I'm just calling on video game designers to think about representation a little bit more. This molar asher has gone on for far too long, Ben. That's wrong. It was weird. My father used to have the exact same mole

and then it got like pre-cancerous and he had to have it removed. You should probably have yours removed then, if they're twin moles. Well, mine's not precancerous. Couldn't it eventually become precancerous? Yeah, but if it does, I could have it removed. In the meantime, I'm gonna enjoy that shit.

Yeah, the lesson being, enjoy your moles while you have them. Yeah, exactly. You may not have them forever. Jake comes in and sees what his dad is working on. And he's like, oh, I know her. She's in a weird photo I have saved for some reason. Who is she? Well, what about you?

That's Grandpa. Ask me what? Grandpa Cisco is fucking pissed. Yeah. You think it might be because for some reason, Jake has been rooting around in his things. But you come to realize that there is a secret being covered up here.

And what's great about Brock Peters is that what you get from him so often as Joe Sisko is like the, I'm Joe Sisko, I'm the kindly restaurant owner, I'm the gentle grandpa. I'm telling you about, I'm the kindly restaurant owner. I'm like, I'm the gentle grandpa. I'm telling you about how we spice the crawdads today. You know he has the alien trash of the galaxy gear in him. Yeah. And when he flips that switch, the storm clouds appear

over his head and it is, it's like a totally different man. The opportunity here is to bring them to their knees. I love it. Yeah. You know, when, when for some reason Jake ran up stairs when he recognized the face, it really read to me as I'm going to like get a magazine from under my mattress and I just did not see the darkness of this scene coming, you know. Yeah, yeah, it really, the pivot happens because of Brock Peters. It's great. Yeah, he's great It's also like does not like it doesn't look like a crappy Photoshop

Which is something that drives me fucking nuts like so many movies and TV shows have an old photograph of a younger Version of a character that looks so bad like it is routinely not well done in Hollywood. And this photo is great. He does not want to tell them who this lady is. She's no one at all. We kind of go from photograph to photograph here, Ben, because back on DS9, Wurf is sleeping alone under his bare skin comforter with the framed wedding picture of he and Jadzee a staring at him. And it's just impossible to jack it in these conditions. It's clear that he has not a good night's sleep in a long time. So you do what you do when you can't get any sleep, you gotta go to the

Hollisweets. Now that's a place you can jack it safely. Yeah. and no, no savor harbor for jacking then the lounge of Vic Fontaine. Wurf is there to demand that he sing the song. And this is a moment you can go in a lot of directions, right? Yeah. I expected the sound of a bagpipe being dropped down the stairs and the beginning bars of a Klingon opera happening. Like, how much fun would it be if the biggest lounge of a Klingon opera happening, like how much fun would it be

if the biggest lounge musicians played Klingon opera and Vic Fontaine had to like, strain his way through it. Vic Fontaine doesn't get Meloda as a request that often. Sure, dime, pocket right there. That's what I'm saying, but you know the bands got to love it. Yeah.

Like, just atonal screaming from he and the band, like the organ from Goonies playing, like. We get a lot of warfies in this episode and it would have been fun to get them in this scene. Yeah, but it's like a very vagus lounge song being played and it's enough to make warf clutch at the tablecloth. He's feeling his feelings. Not just clutch, but smash table. I feel like to a certain person, that would be what the primary use for a Hollis Wheat would be.

Like it would feel probably pretty good to just go into a smashing room. Yeah. And just tear it up. I've seen them do that on my real housewives programs that I watch with my lovely wife. There are places where you can go rent time in a room full of smashable objects. And wow.

And it seems like a fad sort of a kin to an escape room where it's like I can't even believe that this business exists, but people do it. Elsewhere on the station, the roms have moved in and you can tell they've done so because the first thing they do is put up their poster on the wall. Classic like move-in day at the dorms for the roms. Already complaining about the accommodations. Yeah. This is Senator Cretech and the actor who plays her Megan Cole also played a character in that episode of TNG, the Outcast about the androgynous

species of aliens. Oh yeah. Her character was their head of state and took great umbridge with the fact that Riker was involved in a heterosexual relationship with one of their members. Her voice is so unique and memorable to me that I wasn't sure where to place her, but yeah. Like, her voice is authoritative

and yet friendly. It's a hell of a combination. Megan Cole, she could have a career in voice work. Yeah, there's a sibilance in her asses. We were concerned about our citizens. We take our obligations to them serenously. Soar in a sick. That makes her kind of like, I don't know, like a big sister or aunt kind of sounds to it.

The Admiral and I have a good working relationship. I hope to have a similar one with you. And I don't know why that would be, but it feels like you know she's playing chess, but you also like want to like her. But she also could be playing chish. Against me, heaven experience. To my narrowly jahive new shiblings. We only bring Kevin back for award shows. Camara, Cretac and Kira, I think start a little icy, you know, I think Kira probably has some assumptions about what it will be like to work with a Romulan more regularly. Right.

And it seems like the first impression that Creteak gives Kira is that maybe it won't be so bad. The possibilities are good. These rhymes don't seem terrible. Back at Vic Fontaine's bar, Bashir and Quark survey the damage done by Wharf, and they have for some reason not just done the computer reset program. I think. This scene drove me fucking nuts.

Of course just reset the program. A hollow mess is not a mess. What am I supposed to do with all this broken glass? That doesn't really exist. Quark is like cradling a tiny lampshade, grieving the destruction of the mini-lamp. Yeah, this is not like cleaning up the hollow suite after Commander Rikers been in there. This is a totally different situation. This is not like cleaning up the Hollis, Hollisweed after Commander Raker's been in there.

This is a totally different situation. This is not liquid destruction. God, it just, it, it may be so mad. Worf has been this destructive before only it's been when he de-evolved. It's been since then that he's done this much damage to a ship. Yeah, indeed. And it's far more fixable this time. It seems like they didn't care about the logic of the show.

And I think that there's a way to fix this, and it's like, we run this program all the time now because everybody likes Vic Fontaine, and we need continuity of memory for Vic, or something like that. I think there's a techno-ble solution to this scene, but as it stands, it just feels like a totally crazy scene to have in the episode at all, because it also doesn't really seem to advance the plot.

I think we can get Bishir concerned about Warves Mental Health without this scene. I don't know why it's in there. That's what I've been telling you. get this year concerned about worst mental health without this scene. I just don't, I don't know why it's in there. That's what I've been telling you. I mean, it remains to be seen whether or not this is a positive or a negative, but it would appear to be that Vic Fontaine has broken the show. Yeah. Because either he's sort of gaslit everyone into accepting his magic powers

to exist and they treat him differently than they've treated any other holographic projection, or every one of their own accord has changed how they think about these things. But you're right, it's unmotivated in a way that is noticeable and distracting. What are you doing now? Exactly. Back at Cisco's, Grandpa Cisco is up late because early bedtimes are for alien trash. Benzup too, in the way that I feel like you often are, like when your parents come over to stay with you, and I'm never quite settled

until I know that they're asleep. I can relate to that. I mean, nobody's settled around the Cisco household because Joe Cisco has been extremely closed off about who desert face is and Ben, you know, comes down and plops himself at the table with his dad and says, like, listen, you gotta come clean. Who's this lady? And turns out, he had a secret different mom. This is huge. It's a little bit more complicated than that thing.

I was trying to remember if we know anything about Cisco's, quote unquote, real mom. The mom that he always thought was a little more. I thought a lot about that myself, and I didn't want to spoil anything coming up, so I didn't really dig into it. It doesn't seem like someone that he refers to very often. Yeah, and I wonder if my lack of knowledge of that is intentional or what? Like, did they not write anything about his mother or did I just not notice the things that they wrote about his mother?

We get an interesting backstory here. This is Sarah Sisko. She was married to Grandpa Sisko for a time and she disappeared a year after Ben was born. Two years after he was born. Ben Sisko's like it seems pretty difficult to disappear given that this is Earth in the 24th century. Did you try to find her? Yeah. Evidently, Grand Pesisco is so terrible at finding people, that it took him three years to find out that she had moved to Australia to be a hollow photographer. Right.

And it was there that she died in a hovercraft accident, which is the reason why Grandpa Cisco believes that hovercraft are the water sports trash of the galaxy. He's not into the use of air envelopes to propel vehicles over water. There is a lot of ridiculous leading up to a conclusion that I found very real feeling which was grandpa sisco didn't tell Ben any of this because he thought he would treat The mother he thought was his mother differently, yeah, and he didn't want bensisco to resent either him or Or who he thought was his mom. He just wanted him or who he thought was his mom. He just wanted Ben Sisko to be raised in what he would believe was a normal household.

Yeah, it was a hard conversation that he, you know, he was like, he always had an excuse why it wasn't the right time to have it. Like, oh, he's too young. Grandpa Sisko's like, I told you when you were one. And it just didn't sink in. Yeah. See, you just looked back at me like I was talking nonsense. And this moment is kind of one of epiphany for Ben Cisco.

He believes that maybe this is what he's back on Earth to do, to figure out who this woman was. On Deep Space Nine, Colonel Cura is wandering around the promenade and catches Senator Crete Hack, laying a jump just stick. And they really bond over the fact that jump just sticks are not good. You just aren't going to look cool licking a stick-based confection, you know? Like the hardest core ramealand with the biggest fucking bread box shoulders, like you're just not gonna fuse them if they're licking a jump-jastic.

Jumjastic are also so big. Yeah. Has anyone ever gotten to the bottom of a jump-jastic? I know, world may never know. One, two, three, two. One, two, tt-t-t-t-t-t-t-t-t-t-t-t-t-t-t-t-t-t-t-t-t-t-t-t-t-t-t-t-t-t-t-t-t-t-t-t-t-t-t-t-t-t-t-t-t-t-t-t-t-t-t-t-t-t-t-t-t-t-t-t-t-t-t-t-t-t-t-t-t-t-t-t-t-t-t-t-t-t-t-t-t-t-t-t-t-t-t-t-t-t-t-t-t-t-t-t-t-t-t-t-t-t-t-t-t-t-t-t-t-t-t-t-t-t-t-t-t-t-t-t-t-t-t-t-t-t-t-t-t-t-t-t-t-t-t-t-t-t-t-t-t-t-t-t-t-t-t-t-t-t-t-t-t-t-t-t-t-t-t-t-t-t-t-t-t-t-t-t-t-t-t-t-t-t-t-t-t-t-t-t-t-t-t-t-t-t-t-t-t-t-t-t-t-t-t-t-t-t-t-t-t-t-t-t-t-t-t-t-t-t-t- and I think want to like each other. But they are on such cautious footing. Their shoulders are squared to each other in such a way that it almost seems like they're both prepared for the other person to pull a knife or something like that.

And I really love the way that performance was done. That we're trying to build a rapport but we're both very uneasy with this circumstance. And I think both actors do a great job with that. There's physical acting there. Yeah, it's very subtle. It's like deep subtext of the scene. No, no, visitors have been one of the great physical actors of the show.

So it's unsurprising that she would be a part of this. But the other character in the scene is doing it just as much, it's great. Yeah. In a different show set maybe 10 or 20 years later, you might predict that this is the beginning of a romance. Yeah, there's a palpable tension in the air and we often equate tension between characters with sexual tension.

There's just kind of a throwaway thing here at the end of this scene. It's not a big deal, but if it's not too much trouble, Colonel Kira, you know that that fourth moon of Bejor that no one's using, the one that's in that really like far off orbit, would it be possible to just stick a Romulan hospital there for our wounded during the war? You know how bad this war has been. If we could just set up a hospital there, it would be great. I'll ask the Council of Ministers what appreciate anything you can do.

I mean, it's a very innocent question. You're holding a gem just stick. I mean, there's no way this could... You can't look sinister holding a gem just stick and asking a question right right. Nobody plays chess with a gem just stick in one hand. But if if it were possible, the Romulans would be they in another area of the station, Bashir and O'Brien are conspiring to cheer up a wharf. And this is what we're they're trying to figure Like, how do you get this guy out of his funk? It's been three months, guys.

Get over your dead wife, or what the fuck? O'Brien in a very chief O'Brien kind of way is like, let's get him drunk. And so he gets a bottle of the good blood wine. What solves depression better than a depressant? He talks his way into Worf's quarters and takes it to the dome. Cheers. This is fucking spectacular. Yeah. This is such a tease of a property that we should have had for six seasons before this. O'Brien and Worf should be great friends. Remember what's his name, Lieutenant Barclay? It should, and we should see them

looking doing like super big friendship moves like this for each other. Like, my boy is fucking sick right now, and I'm gonna go, like, I'm gonna go get in his face until we can get to the bottom of how I can help him. It feels so right that it feels like an intentional move that the staff chose, like we can't have this show be too much like Star Trek, the next generation.

We need to separate the pairs that feel natural and integrate the two casts in a specific way. And that just feels dishonest. Yeah, this felt like a really natural move. And I like that Bashir was not included in the plan. Like I like that Bashir walked O'Brien to the door and then made himself scarce. Even Bashir knows that O'Brien and Wharf should be better friends than they are.

Yeah. Yeah. Morning, morning, morning, morning, steaming, sweet, morning, morning, morning, evening everybody, morning, stop, have a time. We just cut to Quarx Bar where O'Brien

is nursing a fucking major hangover, but he actually did get to the bottom of it. He found out what's eating Warf Ryzenko. Yeah, it's the idea that Warf doesn't think Jadzea has gone to Stovacore, and no amount of screaming can make that possible, because Jadzea did not eat the heart of her enemy, and she did not die on a battlefield in glory. I loved Quark asking the question here because it was the question in my mind,

like doesn't being killed like in an attack kind of count. Yeah. That seems like like it wasn't a dishonorable death. She was fucking murdered. Quark is also curious about whether or not Stovacore is a place that Jadzee wanted to go. I feel like this is a question that people have for family members all the time,

you know, when the time comes. Like, what kind of funeral are they going to be given? Well, I guess we're a Catholic family, but we didn't really go to church. So what's that gonna look like? Like, it's awkward. Yeah, and then you do it and the priest like says a bunch of stuff that doesn't feel true

to the person. Yeah. And you're like, yeah, that didn't feel right. O'Brien's idea is that they appeal to Marthock for help. And this feels like a great idea. Marthock's gonna know how to fix this. They're in the same house. Klingons can solve Klingon problems.

Right. And uh, General Martak is uh, is due tomorrow. Yeah. How convenient. Ben Pro-Werkon. Meshbar. I think there are things that I would be interested to see how they work.

W slash R slash T Meshbar. Because there's, it solves the spilling problem, and Lord knows that's a concern for me. You know what? It both solves and doubles the spilling problem, because you're wiping two surfaces of something's spills. You're wiping the oversight and the underside of that mesh grate. I think what I would do is if I was the bar owner, I would have like a pressure washer.

And at the end of service, everybody's out of the bar. I just hit the whole top of the bar and I would design mesh bar so that, like whatever's under it is sloped somewhat and then there's like a channel where everything rolls to a drain. And then when I press your wash, everything's going through the channel and down into the drain. You get pressure wash or regular bar, you know. I love the idea of a bar with a French drain. Yeah. That needs to be big.

It's only works if people are not using currency that's small enough to fall through the mesh. Very true. Yeah, you don't want the greats in the mesh to be big enough to catch Latinum. Well, quirk might. He's got the Latinum catcher in the pipes those are just checks that once a week and fills his pockets. Out in the back assist goes Ben continues to clean the clams while Grandpa has found Sarah's necklace and the writing on the back of it is ancient Bejorin. That doesn't make any sense, Sarah wasn't Bejorin. Don't you know, all Bejorarin artifacts with writing also live in your lives. I've been in a shoebox for 50 years.

It's been terribly boring, but it's no being buried under a Bajarin monastery for 30,000 years. That would be truly nightmarish. Do you know what it's like to almost be buried with the corpse? That was a close call. Could have been worse. I could have died in the blades of a hovercraft Cap and Cisco does the research and and it's it's referencing the orb of the emissary a a Here-to-for unknown orb. This is a ninth orb. Yeah. What about that? What if it still exists? What if it's not dark like the others? These are questions that Ben Sisko has and his mission is becoming more specific.

He's got to go back to where this woman was in the vision. He's got to answer these questions. That is planet Tyree. That's the desert planet of Tyree. We get just the briefest of scenes in the wardrobe where there's a McLaughlin group. Is your wand. They're counting the dead.

It's one of those meetings. Like, you don't read the minutes at the last meeting. We know how many were dead then. We're reading off the names this time. This is a Friday, right? That's always Friday. But they post the dead. It's a scene that's placed us in time, specifically.

And as the losses keep piling up, Cretech has grown grateful of the construction of this hospital. It's been a great help. She's like TGIF, am I right? Whew, long week. But we got the hospital built. There's like that after the meeting scene.

Like whenever the meeting's over, you're like, God, thank God it's over. Gee. Auto meets up with Kira after. And turns out, Auto's got some interesting intelligence about that hospital. A ship full of Vulcans was denied entry to it, and evidence is that it's a hospital full of Romulan weapons.

My concentrations of trilothium isotopes. Uh-oh. Yeah, curious. Like, she's trying to assume positive intent. It could also mean that's just what they construct hospitals out of. Romulans. Yeah. Tropito casings.

I mean, you see people, you know, building starbucks. construct hospitals out of. On Romulans. Torpedo casings. I mean, you see people building Starbucks out of shipping containers these days. Why can't Romulans build hospitals out of torpedo casings? I'm looking to it. On the Holla Suite, Wurf is practicing batlet when Martak enters.

It's like Wurf is in the batting cage, and then Martak enters to take some cuts. Oh God, I love it! Turn the ice! Defend yourself, wharf! Ah! Yeah. It's great.

You know that if you're like solo in the Hollow Suite swing in your Batleth around, you've just gotta be ready for there to be a Batleth there to catch your Batleth. Right. By surprise. Do you think when you're doing Batleth there to catch your batleth? Right. By surprise. Do you think when you're doing batleth in the hollow sweet, you have to specifically try to make it sound

like you're not sexing in there? Hahaha. Like all of the grunting and the heavy breathing, like you're probably being overly dramatic to sell the idea that it's not weird sex stuff, it's just batless. I don't think anybody that goes into the hollow suites can be prudish about that. I think you go into the hollow suites knowing that people will assume that what you were doing was some

nasty sex stuff. The baseline is sex for the hollow suite for sure. Yeah. It's like that tubs business that operated in the university district that I lived in. Like it was a place where you could use a tanning bed and like rent a hot tub. But that's also where sex stuff was happening. Yeah, that sounds about right. So the series of technicalities that have kept Jetsia out of Stovocore are one thing.

But there's also a loophole for getting somebody into Stovocore after their death, and that is do a big glorious battle in their honor. And that is what O'Brien and Bashir have prevailed upon Marthok to provide warfwith is get this dude into a battle. This escorting, stumbled, convoys, shit. It's not going to cut it. He's going to go have to battle his way through a thousand gem hadar in order to get Jidziah across the death finish line. I love that we skip the scene where everyone's telling Marthok what the deal is. Like he goes right into the hollow suite.

He knows what needs to happen for Jadzi. He knows the score. He knows the Stovo score. And worth it, gratefully accepts. Back on Earth, Ben Sisko's taken out the trash and a Jawah shows up in the alley behind Cisco's and pulls back his hood and it's actually a

diminutive bejorin who's there to tell Benzisco that he's never going to find the orb of the emissary. The thing that telegraphs this moment is the music, right? It's a scene that starts with, I feel like, a what should be in the Federation rulebook, do not bring seafood on a run about. Like, Benzisco's talking about maybe bringing some clams on his mission. That might be fun. That idea, Benzisco, do not bring seafood on your run about. Don't do it. It'd be like the time my dad drove me and my friends to the live 105 summer concert at the Shoreline Ampitheater and forgot that there was a doggy bag full of leftover seafood from the night before in the trunk of our Volvo 240 station wagon. of our Volvo 240 station wagon. Oh.

And it sat in the sun all day in the parking lot while I saw like green day and the red hot chili peppers play. And then we had to drive home my dad, myself, and my two friends with all of the windows rolled down because it was so smelly. You just drive the car off of a cliff after that, right? There's no, there's no selling a car in that condition. He had the upholstery shampooed like three times and the smell never came out. Yeah,

it's done. There is no amount of ozone machine operation I can save a car like that. It was essentially totalled by shrimp's campy. But it's like that, right? It's all fun and seafood games until the music turns and then the knife is pulled and then it's not stabbing but slashing and there's something so much more visceral about seeing a belly being slashed at a couple of times than seeing like, you know, the easy way to do it is the disappearing knife blade that compresses, you know, when you push it against something. But I had a reaction to seeing this that was reflexive and bad. I wished we had gotten one more scene with this guy. And what I would have done is cut the scene where Quarkin Bashir take a look at the trashed hollow-sweet program and slot in a scene right at the beginning of the episode that goes

unexplained until this point of this guy like praying in a Star Trek cave somewhere and maybe like, you know, being handed a knife and putting on his cloak with some other bejurans and saying like, you know what you must do. Maybe there's a scene with Ben Cisco in the back cleaning clams and this guy is in the restaurant and he's just finished a big meal and he leaves without paying. Oh yeah. And that really catches Grandpa Cisco's attention. Like that guy is no good. And that would explain why Jake came around back to knock him on the head, right? Right. Yeah. Make sure that see if that guy's outside the restaurant somewhere. Siruck Lovton is so big physically, like when he drops this garbage bag

on this little bajorin guy, I mean the size disparity is really pronounced here. It makes me wonder why they don't use him in more action scenes. Like he seems like he moves around well physically. He is an imposing silhouette as a person. I think. And I like that kind of like kid strength.

Like he almost, he's like new to his strength when he drops the, I don't know if it's like a sack of potatoes or something that he hits the guy with, but he's like almost surprised by how well it works. It's just empty clamshells that sound like a sack of castonets. Yeah. So fortunately they get bent to the hospital. Is it fucked up that Grandpa Cisco doesn't go with?

Like, Grandpa Cisco works his shift the next day at the restaurant when Grandpa Cisco returns. As if Grandpa Cisco has to work his day at the restaurant when Benzisco returns. As if Grand Pesisco has to work his shift at the restaurant. Yeah, like this restaurant doesn't make money or anything. It doesn't fucking matter. Go be with your son. He was stabbed. The very special is shrimp creole.

It's shocking to me. It makes me wonder if Grand Pesisco is still holding the grudge about Sarah and like how that whole thing was unearthed. Yeah. Anyways, the branch par atheons are a menace and shit is not going well between Benzysko and them. No. Back at Quarks, O'Brien has gone through that refractory period after you tie one on

one night, and he's back in the mood to do a little drink and he and Bashir are having a toast to worse impending glorious combat. Yeah, without war. Worse not there, but Bashir is going to be going with him. Yeah, but Bashir wants to be there to help. And they're explaining this to Quark who is even credulous This is the scene I was referring to earlier where Quark asks if this is even something that Jadzia would want and

It raises such interesting interesting questions about like what a trills end of life plan might be to the extent that it would be like are their Trill wills? In a way that you and I would consider them? Like, you have a host body that has things. Do you get rid of those things when you get your ankylo sore put into someone else? Do you want to start fresh?

Yeah, we've heard that your debts are all vacated when your ankyloaur goes into somebody else. Yeah. But is the same true of your possessions? And your relationships, too, are another thing that are kind of liquidated, right? Like, you no longer maintain your romantic relationships any longer. I don't know. Like, I want to know more about this this stuff and this was the perfect opportunity during this changeover to experience what that might be like.

Yeah, everything I didn't like about this scene was Quark's loose ass lips, like, fucking standing there in public going like, so what? The ship that Marthok is commanding is going to go do a surprise attack on the shipyards that the Like don't don't have Quark know that Yeah, that's not right No Admiral belt buckle and Kreetack are having a meeting when Kira walks in and says this but Glockwood group is over

Bye, bye. This is another scene of like impotent belt buckle because he does not seem to have the authority to kick Kira out. Let's try to stay calm. I'm sure we can reach some sort of compromise. Not that Kira would even accept it if that were requested of her. Kira knows about the situation on DERNA. Seven thousand plasma torpedoes are being stored there instead of injured patients. It's not a good look And so there's kind of a standoff at this at this negotiating table remove the weapons or we will

Kiris says it's the Romulan torpedo crisis issues Cretacay but you're ultimatum fuck yeah band Fuck yeah That is exactly it. This is great news for Wei-Yun and Dymar. They love hearing that things are fractured between the bejurins and the Romulans. How do they know things so fast? They got eyes on every wall, you know?

Is that table a founder in the wardrobe? I'd be doing more sweeps if I were them. That would be really exciting in an episode of the McLaughlin group if the coffee table went gold. Way you and it's like, hey, this is good news, right? Camera whips over to Demar Bunk And the fork gets pulled from the canar Like he's just ready at the anytime there's anything close to good news. He's ready to drink

He's got he's he's replaced the gun in his holster with a bottle Quick draw fastest cork in the west. The button on the episode is Cisco coming downstairs. And he's doing that thing when you're like going to the airport where you're like, I got this sport coat that I've been in need and it does not go with what I'm wearing. But I also don't want to wad it up and stick it in my suitcase because it's not going to live right when I get to, you know, don't want to wadded up and stick in my suitcase, because it's not going to live right when I get to, you know, my best friend's wedding two days from now.

So what I'm going to do is I'm going to, I'm going to, I'm going to do T-shirt jeans, sport coat on the, on the flight. And I'm going to look like a bit of a, I'm going to look like a bit of a doofus, but I, I, I can't get this thing wrinkled. And it comes downstairs in Joe and for some reason Jake are standing there

and they've both got luggage over their shoulders. And he's like, hey, what gives? We're coming with you, Dad. We love you very much because we're your family and we're gonna go with you to find out who Sandface lady is. Operation Desert Face has got two other participants. Yeah. And speaking of faces, Adam, there's one in the window.

Yeah. Grandpa Sisko's like, I know you're not going to believe this because we have never closed. Ever, ever. My son was stabbed yesterday and was in the hospital. And I didn't close for that. But I've closed for this. This is gonna be unbelievable to you.

I don't even have a closed sign. That's how unusual the situation is. Yeah, we have to write it on a piece of cardboard and tape it in the window. This woman says she's not there to eat. She is there to introduce herself to Ben Sisko. And she does. It's me, Dax.

Is she going on Operation Desert Face 2? It's a cut to black. We can only assume. She's got luggage over her shoulder, so she might as well. She's got that round federation luggage that I love. She's not wearing a soft cider like this goes. Nice. She's just got her little tray with all her medals,

one book from Captain Picard, and that's it. That's the only stuff she needs to leave. Grand Physicist doesn't like the round luggage. The alien trash of travel. Do you like this episode, Ben? You really want to do this here. Now I'm okay, okay, let's do it. I have kind of mixed feelings about this episode.

There's a lot I like in it, but it felt like a bunch of C stories. None of the stories felt like the A story to me. And I kind of kept hoping one would resolve into being like, this is the most important thing happening in this episode. But I guess it's the profit stuff. Like I guess nominally, that's it. But it didn't seem like that big a deal. And it didn't seem like they spent that much time on it. So it seemed it seemed like three C stories looking for an A story. I think that might be the reason that I did like it. I read that the writer and showrunner of this episode very specifically wanted to do a quiet, contemplative

season premiere episode in a way that had not been done before on either TNG or deep space nine. And I like it for what they tried to do, like because I think they succeeded in that. And I'm gonna try to withhold criticism on what it isn't, because it was not trying to be anything besides this. But the proof is in the runtime of this episode for us,

Ben, like I think it made me think a lot about all of the stuff that maybe had been scribbled in the margins that never made the show. That never made the story up until now. And that stuff is really interesting and fun to talk about. But I don't think that's why you make an episode of television. So on the other hand, I feel like maybe there were some missed opportunities. I think it sets the table for an exciting seventh season of the show at the very least and I guess That's a that's the that's the minimum you want to hope for

It's all you want do you want to see if we have any priority one messages my friend? Oh, I'm setting my table for that Priority one message from star fleet coming in on secured channel Need a supplement on that. A supplement? A supplement. A supplement. Yeah, it's extra.

But the interest alone could be enough to buy this ship! Ben, our first priority one message is of a promotional nature. Shit, dog. The message goes like this, do you're Ben and Adam? I'm many drinks in, and I can't figure out how this thing works That's how you start a promotional message. I love you guys If I'm paying for this anyway So now just say to all of you other friends of DeSoto and then in parentheses I could rope real close to the street and chat's worth

I want to handle all of your intellectual property needs not just your patents But your trademarks and copyrights too. I probably should mention that I am a registered patent attorney. I guess email me at or not. That's cool too. Oh wow. So this is a this is a drunk person who is advertising their professional services and also leaving their email address. So there's another symptom of their drunkenness.

The call to action is call me with your intellectual property needs. There is no phone number here. It's just the email address. Well, here's the thing. I think I'm a little worried that a intellectual property in patent attorney is leaving a message like this on our show. It seems fraught that we... Should we beep out the email address

for their protection? Whoever edits this is gonna have to decide. If you really want the email address of a drunk intellectual property in patent attorney, email drunksmotegeageemail.com. And maybe we'll pass it on to you there. How's that? That way there's a screening going on.

Well, we're gonna be the bouncers for this, for this friend of Deserto. We're gonna do this person yourself. We're gonna do this person yourself. We're gonna do this person yourself. We're gonna do this person yourself. We're gonna do this person yourself. We're gonna do this person yourself.

We're gonna do this person yourself. We're gonna do this person yourself. We're gonna do this person yourself. We're gonna do this person. We're gonna do this person. Here's the Soto Street in Chatsworth. Yeah, anytime anyone for some reason converts a personal P1 to a professional one, just to support us more, I love that, so thanks. I love it too, and if this, you know, I don't want to stand as a roadblock for this person getting more business, so I don't know what to do. I've torn. I'm just torn. I think we've done enough. Our next priority one message is of a personal nature and it's from Jay and it's to Ben and

Adam. And it goes like this. Shelter in place stinks, but having new episodes of the greatest generation makes it feel like good friends still drop by my place every week. Thank you for the much needed belly laughs. I can't wait for some in-person pod at the next greatest Gen Con San Francisco. My friends and I will be taking you to the best Tee-hee bars in the city. Alright, finally, we can go to some Tee-hee bars in San Francisco. I've always wanted to do that. Yeah, thank you, Jay.

Boy, I really hope all this junk is over by the time sketchfest comes around again. Yeah, I mean, we have friends involved in the sketchfest festival that we care a lot about. I hope you're able to do it. I hope everyone with that crew is doing all right. We will be back at Sketchfest. It should sketchfest be happening, but who knows. I'm keeping my hopes very, very low for the next year just because I don't want to be disappointed. You'd rather be delighted than disappointed. Yeah, hope for the best, but prepare for the worst. Yeah.

Well, if you'd like to leave a message upon the show, you can do that by going to maximumfun.org slash jembo-tron. It's $100 for a personal message and $204 a commercial message. And we really appreciate it, because it helps us cover the cost of making this darn thing. I already won, Lizzie. Hey, Adam.

It's epic. Should you find yourself a drunk Shimoda? You're right, I'm a drunk Shimoda! Like one of the other things I read about this episode was how traumatic it was for the writers to confront the idea of Jadziya Dax's departure. A lot of people believe that the Terry Feral contract situation would be mended sufficiently to mend the fence and that she'd returned to the show.

And I thought that was an interesting bit of trivia. And it also made me wonder if any of the other actors got ideas because when Bishir wants to go on the mission with Warf, like for no reason, like as the third, you never want to be the third. No. You never want to be the second to volunteer for a dangerous thing. Like, O'Brien already is like going out on his limb to join the mission with Warf and then Bishir for some reason, Bishir is like, yeah, why not? I'll go to what I thought was

maybe Alexander Sidig wants out of his contract too. And it suddenly made it made this upcoming mission feel very dangerous for Bishir. So Bishir for wanting to go on this mission with Worf is going to be my Shimoda. My Shimoda is Joe Sisko. There's a line in this where he says he's going to take his gumbo recipe to his grave. He's not going to share it with his son. And like the look of Shagrin on Ben Sisko's face when he says this is very real. And it made me think that there's like maybe a little bit more spite in Ben and Joe's relationship than I had previously understood, which I think is realistic. Like children, especially of like stubborn and recalcitrant parents like Joe Cisco, often have

a lot of love that is mixed with a lot of spite. And that spite can go both ways. And I thought the Cisco family has traditionally been such an idyllic family. And I liked the introduction of a little texture like that. Yeah, maybe they're not over arguing about Sarah. Hahaha. A greatest gen live show is something you don't want to miss. Why?

Well, it's a great opportunity to see me and Ben in person, but that's not all. FODs from all over gather at these shows to cosplay, to do pre and post-show hangs, to make friends, and share their embarrassment. Hey, let's make a pretty great name for a tour. Let's do it! The Sherry Reembarishment Tour is coming in August 2023 and we've got a bunch of dates in a lot of great places. Go to GreatestGenTour.com to get more info. That's GreatestGenTour.com for dates and ticketing information for the Sherry Reembarishment Tour.

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What do you think? Ono Ross and Carrie, available on MaximumFun.org. Well, we'll find out in the next episode, Adam, which you are going to roll some dice about and I'm going to read a description of. Alright, for the dice part of that, I'm going to go over to Gachdap Biz Slash Game and consult the game of Buttholes Will with the Profits. There's gonna be Season 7, Episode 2, Shadows and Symbols. Cisco's quest to find a mythical, but Jorin Orb

leads him to unlock the truth about his own existence. Well Ben, we're currently on square 45 where one square only ahead of us is a like a cocoa no no square. That's a high odds square given your rolling traditions. The bad news is a couple squares past that that is another space butthole, which would take us all the way down to a fuck it, we'll do it live. Oh shit.

And it would really cripple our chances of ever making it to the Moreenhammerd square this season. It really put us behind, but see what we get. You're required to learn as you play roll. Let's see Oh, you know what I do, Ben. I only roll ones. I only roll snake eyes Shit dog. You know where that's put us. It's a square 46 and the cocoa no no square. It looks like you and I because we have no date for when we can cruise around San Francisco visiting teaky bars will be drinking teaky cocktails from the comfort of our

own homes. Man. All doing this week's episode. I used up the last of my rum like a week ago. I guess I have some Okole how though so I could make some some Cocoa Nonos with that maybe. I was thinking exactly that. Let's do the Okole how. Alright well that will be next week on the greatest generation. In the meantime we got some thank yous to give out. We got to thank all the friends of DeSoto who support the show at MaximumFun.org slash join. They listen or support a program and we really appreciate all the folks who take a, you know, five or ten bucks a month and throw it our way to support the work we do.

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I love it. Honestly like Bill has really like taken the idea of this is going to be a fun account to follow and run with it. It's really, really fun. What is doing with it? It's really, really fun. What he's doing with it. And we really appreciate it. Of course, we met him because he started making comedy trading cards about our episodes online and posting them and he's re-re-re-treating them from the greatest track track accounts and they're always a delight. Highlight of every music. We're able to work with Bill and pay him because of the support we get for this show from

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