The Greatest Generation - Tubules on the Collar (VOY S5E2)
Episode Date: December 5, 2022When a transporter accident spawns a Borg fetus in Voyager’s science lab, Captain Janeway lets it gestate just to see how things turn out. But when One hits puberty ahead of schedule, his interest i...n the collective becomes a concern for Seven. Is it possible to over baffle? Has Mulchaey been living under a rock? Who has the butt for jodhpurs? It’s the episode driven mad by the tell-tale freestyle machine!Support the production of The Greatest Generation.Friends of DeSoto for Democracy.Friends of DeSoto for Justice. Follow The Game of Buttholes: The Will of the Caretaker!Music by Adam Ragusea & Dark MateriaFollow The Greatest Generation on Twitter, and discuss the show using the hashtag #GreatestGen!The Greatest Generation is on Twitch.Facebook group | Subreddit | Discord | WikiSign up for our mailing list!
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Welcome to the greatest generation.
It's a Star Trek podcast by a couple of guys.
We're a little bit embarrassed to have a Star Trek podcast.
I'm Ben Harrison.
I'm Adam Pranica coming at you
from a newly re-skinned studio.
Do you see this behind me?
It's amazing to see you not under a bed sheet for the first time in
episodes and episodes.
I know you're used to seeing me in the sheets.
Yeah, not anymore.
Now, are you in the streets?
Wait a second.
Yeah. What are we not Star Trek podcasters in the streets?
That's for sure.
No, no, we try Star Trek podcasters in the streets? That's for sure. No, no
We try to avoid that coming up definitely Star Trek podcasters in the sheets
Yeah, which is why our wives are so satisfied. Yeah, I
am sure you had this experience been but the the studio space I'm working out of that I'm going to be working out of,
it had nothing in it, and the sound was like a high school basketball court. It was so echoey and crazy. Yeah, you have a concrete floor in that room? Yeah, I think that's fair, and I think
it's just like it, I think it's just a laminate wood flowering over the tap.
Oh, okay, I see.
So it's just a bouncy super live room.
And you've now put, you put baffles up.
I think I overbaffled, though, man.
There's no such thing.
That's impossible.
Okay, well, that's good because I think what happened
is I chose baffle.
I woke up and chose baffle instead of decoration.
Because I'm looking around it all of my wall space and I'm like,
where do I put the fun things that Bill Tilly has said to us?
Where do I put pictures of my worth?
Where do I do all that?
You've gone with a white wall with a slightly off-white
to gray sound treatment panel.
And the panels are covering almost every square inch.
There's nowhere to hang a tour poster,
not that anybody would ever hang one of our tour posters.
That bums me out.
So there's a skeleton inside these baffles, right?
The baffles a box and it's filled with the deadening material
and then it's skinned with the fabric.
But there's like wood slats in the baffle.
Could I hang a picture on the baffle?
I don't know.
You should probably ask your baffle man about the weight tolerances
of the skeleton.
Yeah.
These guys are not coming off.
Really?
They hung like a register piece of wood and then they nail gun to into that register.
Wow.
Yeah.
It's like on there.
He's like, if you ever want to take these off, you should probably call us, but also
just yank extremely hard at the bottom and then kind of like cowboy it up over the top
and that's how you get these things off.
So I think this is the way it's gonna be.
And unless I really wanna make some changes,
but it sounds great.
Yeah, you should see if that guy
that did the mural at Facebook's office
and took stock options instead of payment is available.
Talking about a David Cho.
To come paint some stuff on your sound panels.
Because painting the panels wouldn't harm their efficacy,
right?
That is a great idea.
I've got all these silver sound panels.
I could do deserts on them. Yeah. Yeah. I have a lot of panels, dude. I'm
looking around and the ones up top are square. Yeah. I'm
surrounded by cubes. I should have made them black and green
like Borg's cubes, right? Yeah, speaking of cubes, they don't show up in today's episode.
I know.
I know.
But a Borg's does.
Yeah, sure does.
Actually, many of them.
Do you want to get into today's app?
I really do, Ben.
What an interesting second episode of the fifth season of Star Trek Voyager. It's called...
DeRone.
Reaver Course.
Unless you've got something a little bigger in your torpedo toots, I'm not journeying around.
Ah!
I've put a lot of swobbles in that.
That would have been a cool baby name for you.
Deapastrophe RONE.
That's a Star Trek name that your wife never would have figured out, right?
No, but listen, we haven't shared my baby's name on the show. I want to keep it that way.
And I don't want anybody to be able to use process of elimination.
So that's the last time we'll ever imply that his name isn't anything.
Hey, for the purposes of our show, and I think it would help if we could just have a name
we agreed on the whole time so that we're not like fumble fucking around for how to refer to your
son. Could he be DeRone? When we talk about your kid? Sure, why not? All right, good. With my luck,
that will spontaneously become like a nickname
that he goes by when he goes to elementary school.
And then I'll have to like walk it back somehow.
Like, yeah, he's actually never been to Rome
and we never did that.
Just like his daddy, the kid with an embarrassing name.
This is an episode that opens.
And I was like looking at this opening shot and I paused
the episode and they wrote down this bedside POV, this like looking up from a bed or from
a slab.
It's really starting to become a visual hallmark of Voyager, like the POV shot.
It's of seven of nine making a great big glowing smile.
And then you realize it's not that at all.
She's looking at a mirror.
There's something unusual about this smile,
and this is a thing that me and my wife
have done comedically forever,
which is she does not smile with her eyes
and just her mouth.
It's the reverse of what Tyra Banks does.
Not smizing.
Smizing.
The high school dance photo of smiles is what this is.
Right.
For many of them, right?
There's something haunting about someone who smiles with just their mouth and not their eyes.
And that's what you see here.
If she did throw the eyes in, though, this would be a real charming smile.
It would be.
Yeah.
She's got everything else smile. It would be. Yeah.
She's got everything else working.
It's true.
But it takes practice.
And when the EMH barges in, he is complimenting her on her progress.
She's really irritated that he is invading her personal space without asking.
Knock on my door, knock next time.
This used to be Seven's move, the entering a place without knocking.
Yeah, me thinks the drone does protest too much.
Also we're aware of the security masturbation protocol
on board the ship.
How much of this is on Seventh for not locking the door?
Yeah, if you're gonna flick the bean in the cargo bay,
you need to be a little bit more careful about it. Yeah, she's fl gonna, if you're gonna flick the bean in the cargo bay, you need to be a little
bit more careful about it. Yeah, she's flicking the corners of her mouth is what she's doing and the
dot catches her. At this point, it seems unclear how much the doc is seen later. He let's it spill
that he's seen it all. He's seen everything of everybody. Yeah. He and Seven are off to study a nebular, and this is going to be a brat class mission.
Just how much save your money, Buster.
This is a shuttle into which Seven of Nine Tom Paris Bilti and the Doc have all waged
themselves to study like novel types of radiation. See what's going on with this.
Just another expanse that they're worried about crossing and what it might do to the ship.
They're being a lot more cautious about these now, based on recent experiences.
Don't you like shop talk though? Anytime Star Trek
affords the chance for its characters to be like, man, these brat
style shuttles, right?
Do you remember how many cadets they used to cram in here?
Yeah, yeah.
Get them all stanky.
Yeah.
Do you ever read about like those NASA experiments or they were like, you know, we're
not going to be able to have a shower on the space capsule.
So we need to study, you know, how long it takes
for clothes to rot off of somebody's body.
So they would just like lock a NASA engineer in a room
for like two months and like slide food under the door
and they're fucking close,
just like come off them in tatters
because they got so dirty.
Uh, that sounds awful.
Yeah, there's a great Mary Roach book about the space program and how nasty it is.
God, I bet.
It's so much about the space program sounds cool and interesting and that just
sounds horrifying.
So it's the book where I learned the term fecal popcorning, Adam.
Right.
Yeah.
And now we all know it.
I learned the term fecal popcorning, Adam. Right, yeah.
And now we all know it.
There's some light bangers that happen on this shuttle.
And BLT pulls a Austin Power style,
oh, I fell over, oh, I fell over again.
Move.
Hello there.
I don't know about you,
but I've got a case of class two claustrophobia.
This conversation about the Brat style shuttle reveals something interesting, an inspiration,
actually, that seven observes how shitty the Brat style shuttle is.
And she's like, you know, you guys should probably just come up with a new kind of shuttle.
Yeah.
And this look between Paris and BLT, we aren't usually allowed to see what this look is.
This is usually an under the sheets
looked that they give each other.
Yeah.
They are turned on by this.
Not a bad idea.
They are horny as hell about this idea,
but then they spike the camera.
They both just look directly into the camera.
Uh-huh.
I thought that was a bit of a strain.
I mean, Star Trek has never broken the fourth wall,
like this.
I mean, aside from that one episode where Sisky was,
you know, feeling a type of way about killing a man.
I think we're heading toward a place
where we will have infinite Star Trek's
and infinite genre combinations.
Right.
We're probably gonna have the Star Trek office here
in the next five years where there will be a lot of spiking in the camera.
A lot of on-the-fly interviews and people's offices about what's happening,
what their philosophy of management is.
You'd never guess that Lieutenant Halper would end up a jacked, jack Ryan figure after the show is over.
But that's the career track.
Yeah, turned out that guy was a cop the entire time.
So there's a bigger plasma explosion
after the little one that caused the initial turbulence.
This is gonna be more than the shuttle can get away from.
And up on the bridge, they are determining
that they need to beam the away team out,
sacrificing yet another shuttle.
But maybe the last time we see the Brat class
because they've got this great idea
to build a new one that's easier to move the camera around in.
You think they're running out of Brat's
and they're going to like regular hot dogs after?
You get to have a backup sausage if you're from the Midwest.
Specifically, they said bigger and more efficient.
And I don't think a regular hot dog is either of those W-slash-R-slash-T-the-vendorable broadverse.
You're right.
You're right.
On Voyager, Janeway moves the ship into
Transporter Range and they got to get these guys out of there.
In the Transporter room, it's Chicoete
in there, along with Mulkehi,
which I think when you're coming up with character names,
you definitely need to consider the difficulty of saying it, right?
I don't think Mulkehi is an easy name to say,
and I'm a Pranica, I know of difficult names to say.
Yeah, also like, are Irish people allowed
to have non-transporter chief jobs in Starfleet?
Yeah, it's transporter chief and cop. Ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha Oh man, if you have the the good fortune to be at an Irish pub on the night of a
transporter chief's wake, it's one of the great experiences.
Yeah, I mean, there's that one day a year where the transporter stream is dyed green.
I'm a ship. It's really fun.
Yeah, if you don't know about it, you can be like,
ah, Borg's. And then they'll be like, no, no, no, sunny. Okay, he seems barely up to the task
of a rough transport. And that's what this dissolves into pretty quickly, right? Am I right?
Yeah, you're right. It seems fine. It seems like everybody came back in one piece,
but as the doc is stepping off the pad,
he starts blipping out and we get a glimpse of his emitter.
That thing got fucked up.
Yeah, we do glimpse the emitter, don't we?
It's a go day does.
Everyone else fast walks out of the transporter room
but the doc, after blipping out,
leaves this thing behind,
and we hear from him from Six Bay, right?
Yeah, he's very worried about what's going on
with this thing, and it looks like it got cooked, you know?
Yeah.
It looks like, you know, you're not supposed
to put metal things in the microwave.
This looks like, you looks like they were storing leftovers
in the mobile emitter and tried to reheat them in it.
Doesn't work.
Yeah, I've got a question.
Why are we messing around with transporting the doctor?
Like, why can't we just transport to a place
with the emitter,
turn the emitter on when we get there?
When the mission's over, we turn off the emitter,
we put the emitter in a park and then we beam back up to the ship.
Why are we burning starship calories on the beaming of a hologram?
Get a life! Yeah, does the hologram even get beamed or is it just the emitter that gets beamed?
Exactly my point. Yeah. Yeah.
We don't know.
Made me wonder.
Of course, it's long day.
What?
You're going to have to get this into me, don't be careful, because I'm going to see this once.
Do it.
So they take this thing down to the science lab
and Ensen Mulkei is gonna have to come back
to see how the diagnostic goes the next morning.
This is apparently a render the timeline level process.
Boy, you said it.
We just hope that when we get up in the morning,
we have an H264 file that is flawless and ready for
deliverables because we are not going to have time to do this twice.
Do you think the rate of file size increase is the same in proportion to render time to
where like, it's not like processor speed has grown to the extent that you still don't
have to wait if you're a video professional for renders.
The job hasn't changed in that way.
If you're a client, you're still paying for a lot of waiting around.
Yeah, man, the number of all nighters I spent babysitting a render because I was worried
that something wasn't going gonna work just perfectly.
God.
I sat in a lot of empty office buildings
at four in the morning, like with emergency power.
You know how the overhead lights,
there's like one every 200 feet of ceiling space at night.
Yeah, and you're like, that's fun.
I guess I'll get up and go back over the Coke freestyle machine
and make myself another
bubble water because I can't just drink soda all night.
You think I ever worked in a place with a freestyle machine?
That would be amazing.
Oh my God, there are...
I could not resist that.
I had no choice but to resist.
Damn, the Telltale freestyle machine, just goading you.
Yeah, all I could think about.
So is it because the bubble emitter is 29th century tech
that it takes this long to do a diagnostic on it?
Maybe that's the case.
It's like hooking up a new hard drive to an old computer.
Right.
Yeah, so Mokai he's supposed to check on it in the morning
and they walk out of the room and this thing spouts tubules immediately.
Yeah.
Yeah, if Mokkehi had stated his post for even 30 seconds longer, he would have noticed.
This is why he's, you know, he's new to the industry.
This is why he's a PA and not the producer or whatever.
Like the, you know, he doesn't know that the buck can stop with him.
It's true.
After the break, Jane Wayslog tells us that the nebular keeps growing.
She's like, usually we see small nebulas, nebulas, regular size, but this nebula is... Whoa, ha, ha, ha, ha, ha, ha, ha, ha, ha, ha, ha, ha, ha, ha, ha, ha, ha, ha, ha, ha, ha, ha, ha, ha, ha, ha, ha, ha, ha, ha, ha, ha, ha, ha, ha, ha, ha, ha, ha, ha, ha, ha, ha, ha, ha, ha, ha, ha, ha, ha, ha, ha, ha, ha, ha, ha, ha, ha, ha, ha, ha, ha, ha, ha, ha, ha, ha, ha, ha, ha, ha, ha, ha, ha, ha, ha, ha, ha, ha, ha, ha, ha, ha, ha, ha, ha, ha, ha, ha, ha, ha, ha, ha, ha, ha, ha, ha, ha, ha, ha, ha, ha, ha, ha, ha, ha, ha, ha, ha, ha, ha, ha, ha, ha, ha, ha, ha, ha, ha, ha, ha, ha, ha, ha, ha, ha, ha, ha, ha, ha, ha, ha, ha, ha, ha, ha, ha, ha, ha, ha, ha, ha, ha, ha, ha, ha, ha, ha, ha, ha, ha, ha, ha, ha, ha, ha, ha, ha, ha, ha, ha, ha, ha, ha, ha, ha, ha, ha, ha, ha, ha, ha, ha, ha, ha, ha, ha, ha, ha, ha, ha, ha, ha, ha, ha, ha, ha, ha, ha, ha, ha, ha, ha, ha, ha, ha, ha, ha, ha, ha, ha, ha, ha, ha, ha, ha, ha, ha, ha, ha, ha, ha, ha, ha, as creepy as hell, I thought. Yeah, because BLT is like sleeping in her negligee and the doc.
I mean, this is classic, the doc, right?
This is classic pre-Sera Silverman episodes, the doc.
Why wouldn't you, if you're writing this story, take the easy one and put Paris in bed to
take great umbridge with the doc over this moment, right?
Like put them in bed together. Right. But Paris and BLT have been having problems in their
relationship lately. And this demonstrates those problems nonverbaly.
Remember when they were in the void and they were like picking fights with each other?
I don't think that they've like completely patched things up yet. Hmm.
That's too bad.
So we get a scene where she goes into take a shower
because he's like demanding that she work on his emitter
on her day off.
Yeah.
She disrobes.
They're back to the camera
and the doc pops up there in the shower too.
Hey.
It's nothing I haven't seen before.
It's crazy.
Roxanne Dawson has gone from wearing four layers of clothing in the last too. Hey, it's crazy. Roxanne Dawson has gone from wearing four layers of clothing
in the last season and a jacket to full on rope drop in early season five. She has to throw
her Terry cloth towel over the iPad to keep him out of her private space.
It's crazy that the showers are sonic,
but the towels remain the same, right?
Yeah, also it's crazy that they put face time
in the shower area.
And what's going on here seems pretty pervy, doesn't it?
Remember how novel it was to occasionally go to a hotel
where there was a TV in the mirror. Oh, yeah.
I don't think they do that anymore, but I remember the first time I encountered that. That's a big fun.
Yeah, I went to a hotel that had a TV in the mirror, but it was at a right angle to the tub in the room,
which was so annoying because I was like, I want to take a bath and watch fucking,
you know, moonshineers or something
on the Discovery Channel.
Moonshine truckers.
And instead, like, I'm gonna be relaxing
all of my body except for my neck
will have a giant crick in it from being turned
to the left the entire time.
Yeah.
Fuck that.
My neck, my crick, my 90-degree angled hotel mirror TV.
There's a reason why Weird Al writes those songs and not me, right? Yeah, yeah. We never do parody music on this program because we know it would be bad.
Leave it to the masters.
So seven wakes up suddenly mid-re a, she hasn't fully regenerated,
but she knows something's up.
Yeah.
She's suspicious.
She steps off the pad and then we kind of cut up to the bridge
where it looks like Harry Kim pulled the overnight shift
in command.
It would be great if every time he had the big chair,
he played a clarinet and it just became his thing. Oh, great.
Ensign Kim's here to play his clarinet and make us call him captain again.
Sounds like you're enjoying the big chair. That's not a bad way to spend the night.
Commander, I keep asking to be rotated off of the fourth shift. And I think you know why. I keep asking. Yeah.
From what I hear, Ensign,
you're one of the past masters on board
at getting rotated off.
He was stating the obvious again.
You definitely want to set up the security protocol.
If you're in your quarters rotating off, right?
Right, yeah.
And you know, make sure that the Delaney sister is into it before you start rotating off.
Yeah.
Yeah.
Something funny happens here that maybe wonder if the show isn't on the joke.
Did you notice the cloud of story writing credits here displayed over the ever growing
Borg screens in the science lab?
Yeah, that was pretty fun.
You think that was a comment on itself?
Yeah, I think they're tagging the joke,
hanging a lantern on it.
Yeah, because there's like eight writing credits
on this one again.
But like Brian Foller among them?
Yeah, we're in capable hands at least.
Yeah, we like Brian Foller even though he quit Star Trek, right?
Ready to run discovery and then the the last moment like, fuck that.
Yeah. I mean, whatever happened there. It sounded like the first couple of years of that show
a pretty rocky situation W slash R slash T show runner. Oh, yeah.
You said it. So Chico Te is like relieving Kim of commands
and is asking for a situation or report
and seven walks out of the bridge
and is like, there's Borgs here.
And they're like, what do you mean?
And she's like, I could tell,
you know, I'm getting proximity alerts in my brains.
This is an old DNA Troy trick, right?
Right.
You know, whenever she'd be like,
I feel something and it's weird.
The whole show stops.
Yeah, but I think that Troy had earned a certain like instinctive trust in the rest of the
crew on the D that seven hasn't quite yet.
So there's a lot of like, what do you mean there's borricks instead of just like stop,
like all stop security alert,
kind of shit. And I think if they'd like said red alert the second they got this report,
maybe, and some Mulkehi wouldn't have gotten in the trouble he did.
Yeah, and so far there hasn't been any false alarms of like, she's never been the girl who
cried borricks. Now, this is, to my knowledge, the first time
she's brought up something like this.
So, well, Kay, he goes down to the science lab
to do his follow-up on the diagnostic.
And when he opens the door, it's like a twitch streamer
has read on the lighting, hidden the room.
It's all green.
Yeah.
We don't even see what he sees,
but we do see the tubules go into his neck.
Okay, you got a call for backup, dude.
You got to.
When you see green, just call for backup.
That's either rams or borigs.
Is it possible that Mokei doesn't know what the borigs are?
Or anything about how they present color wise.
He's like, he's just been living under a rock.
I remember six months into 2002, an NPR report where they found somebody that worked on a farm
somewhere in the middle of the country that hadn't heard of 9-11.
Yeah, that's Mokai. Yeah. That's Mokkei.
Yeah, he's that wolf 35 what?
No, I mean, Picard in my mind has always been one of the great captains
and a spotless record.
Yes, me.
The thing I like about Picard is nothing bad ever happens to him.
Yeah.
That's what I think.
I've always admired his eloquation.
So we got Borgs in the science lab, seven who has been told to go to six bay to, you know, it's like they first at first, don't
believe her to the extent that they order her
to get a diagnostic of her board's parts.
So condescending.
Just a bunch of men telling her to go see a doctor
about whatever it is they don't understand inside her.
Sounds great.
And smash cut to those men being proven dramatically wrong
and a bunch of security people
marching down the hallway with huge rifles
to the science lab.
To co-tage a seven of nine, looks like you were right.
Discovering that it has started to become assimilated.
Why do I love these scenes so much?
Just a fucking march down a hallway
with a bunch of star fleets and phaser rifles.
We could have luxuried it in the scene
for like another half a minute.
Give me more of this walk.
Yeah, there's that YouTube that's like 10 hours
of Riker and Picard marching down the hallways.
Yeah, that's great.
I wonder if that can happen to this soon.
Yeah, are there enough cuts that you could keep it going?
That's great.
So yeah, they find Mulkei, he's out.
Is he dead?
They don't say it explicitly, but as they describe what's happened,
and because no one rushes to give any sort of life-saving aid,
like to him, I think that's what they're saying.
I think that's the...
Well, they take... No, but they take him to Six Bay
and he like walks away, but...
What?
Yeah, he walks.
With the other two security guys
that like leaves two Valkin Seven in the lab.
No fucking way.
Are you, are you serious?
Yeah, go to like the 12 minute mark
and you will see dead man walking.
All right.
Take him to Sick Bay.
The Nets of Mokkei under the room, they sampled his DNA.
Oh, you hear bright and early.
But like, one of the things that confused the hell out of me
in this episode was I think it's the same actor
playing one eventually.
Is that, am I wrong about that?
Very, yeah.
It's a different guy, but it's the same DNA.
Why would they recast Mokaihi and one?
This is the point I wanted to bring up later,
which is like if you're Mokaihi, the actor who plays him,
and you see how this episode begins,
you gotta be like, I'm a main character here.
I'm gonna work for an entire week.
This poor guy Todd Babcock,
they pull him out and replace him with J Paul Boomer. You know that guy, right?
He plays every Nazi on Star Trek for the last ten years.
He was in the killing game. He was the killing game Nazi. No shit. Yeah.
You're up. Must be purified. What the fuck? And I J. Paul Boomer. I like him just fine. You would but
Ah, what a nut smash Todd Babcock has to deal with. This is why I thought he died. Yeah, I cuz they also like don't seem to check in on him any
Further in the episode. Nobody's like how is Enzen Mokke? He doing
See my attention was drawn to seven. I totally missed any further in the episode. Nobody's like, how is Enzen Malkahi doing?
See, my attention was drawn to seven.
I totally missed Malkahi being taken away under his own power.
Yeah.
Why don't we know what happens to him?
There's so few members to this crew.
Somebody dying should be a huge deal.
Like going down and getting covered in McRibsauce
because you went into the wrong nebula too quickly,
should be like grounds for the entire crew grieving.
You imagine, okay, he goes back to his quarters,
where his wife is, and she's like,
what is that on your neck?
Ha, ha, ha, ha, ha,
I knew you in that seven were up to no good.
Yeah, he's got two beles on the collar.
Try to explain that one away, okay?
So seven is able to walk through the force field that surrounds the object in the middle of
the science lab. And two of us is like, what the fuck is going on in a way
that I really liked, because like Tuvac has to suspect
that Sevin is doing this, right?
Yeah, I think any detective, and let's face it,
I think that's what Tuvac is,
should have arrived at that suspicion.
She goes in, she pushes a button
and a little door,
Iris is open and there's a Borg's baby in there.
Yeah. I love how it's a little box.
Yeah. And it's the same baby as an Alimic peel. It starts dancing.
I love how you get the POV. Yeah.
The Borg feed us here too.
I wanted the POV at the beginning of this episode and the POV is delivered in the next
scene.
It's the Captain Seven and two Voc looking in at this thing and the Captain is surprisingly
accepting of this new dancing baby they have on board.
To an extent that I had a hard time believing until she starts talking about the idea
of once it matures, you know, appropriating its defensive capabilities.
At this point, I don't feel like a lot of that is said.
She just, her reasoning is I want to find out what happens.
And that's good enough.
Right, yeah, the copy of the doc that was in living witness,
if that had been ever able to report back
on the idea of like attack borgs in the cargo bay,
like that would have been a fun motivation for Janeway.
Like I've always thought that was an interesting thought
to repel invaders.
This could be the beginning of our attack-borg force.
But yeah, she does wind up having a very interesting justification for that, but we don't
get it for a few scenes.
When she's like, yeah, go ahead and put a security force field up and post a detail to this
thing, but we're not killing the baby borgs.
It's like, you know, blinking guy dot gif.
So much to unpack in this scene about how the hell this happened, right?
The explanation is that it's kind of a two vix thing, like the transporter malfunction
made it so that sevens, borgs, nanoprobes got down with the docs,
Halloween,
a matter along with Mokai,
he's DNA and they stirred it all together.
And that's what you got.
Yeah, it's growing really fast too.
It's developing much quicker than a drone would normally.
This Borg's is the first to get pubes in his class.
Pubes in a mustache. Yeah. All the other Borgs is the first to get pubes in his class. Pubes in a mustache.
Yeah.
All the other Borgs are like, what the hell?
Like, I thought we were playing floor hockey.
And now all of a sudden, I've got to body check a man.
Yeah.
Who is awesome at classmate?
Like, and it makes this drone feel really awkward at first.
And, and it will feel really awkward also when it starts to develop male pattern
baldness like in senior year, but in the meantime, it does sort of become a hero to its peers because
it can buy beer without being carted. Yeah. I love, there's a throwaway line here that made me laugh
and laugh, which is the doc is talking to seven about the patient
and that they're the equivalent
of a six year old boy at this point.
And the doc is like, I can tell it's male.
You think so, doctor?
Did you look under the cod piece?
The doctor also says that his mobile emitter
is embedded in the cerebral cortex of this six-year-old drone.
And man, like the grieving his freedom on the ship storyline really gets pushed to the
background in this.
Like I feel like Robert Picardo knew how big a deal this would be for the doc, but the
script kind of forgets what a big deal that would be.
I mean, there is that moment where the doc goes full deep thoughts by Jack Handy.
And he's like, if you ever drop your Hollywood miter into the brains of a Borg's drone, let
him go because man, it's gone. The one way that the script does honor that storyline for the doc is that he is on full
barge in via FaceTime mode for the rest of the episode.
But yeah, they are letting this thing develop in a quick way.
And seven meets with the captain in her ready room about this.
And this is when we finally get a cohesive pitch
for why this is an interesting idea
and one that we should entertain.
And that is, this is a 29th century Borg's
that doesn't have any connection to the collective.
It's like the idea of a child that's born
with no knowledge of racism.
They'll be able to indoctrinate it into their way of thinking.
I love this moment because it is...
like his file is getting read to Janeway.
And when Janeway hears about all of the great things about this guy, she's like,
that is a hell of a combination.
You got a round, didn't you?
Incredible.
Justin, come on.
We know it more than U.S.S.
No more than U.S.
Come on, Justin, come on.
We know it more than U.S.
Come on, Justin, come on.
Her idea is to put seven of nine
in the position of sort of being the ambassador
to make friends with the super-drone
and lead sort of a first contact mission. of being the ambassador to make friends with the super drone
and lead sort of a first contact mission.
We cut down to seven going to meet this drone
when it wakes up and it's the kind of first contact
where everybody's pointing rifles at the species
that you're making first contact with,
just in case it's an asshole.
And this is perfect better be polite
than was it during the minute cap food.
This doesn't go great.
And I think part of it is because this new drone is so much of a clean slate.
He can't even understand what's being asked or said to him, right?
Yeah, without a board code base to tell him what to do and how to act.
Yeah, he's dumb as hell.
We are individuals.
Do you understand?
State our designation.
Apparently not.
I gotta put this out there.
This board costume fucking sucks.
It is so bad.
This is like that episode of Voyager,
where BLT gets kidnapped by that robot,
and it's like a race of robots.
I don't know what's happening
from the waist up on this guy,
but this looks like they inflated balloons
and put like paper mache on them,
and then like pop the balloons,
and then like painted it gray.
I don't understand why future tech has to look so rough.
Yeah, it's very lumpy. I think this guy should look like fucking
Robocop. Yeah. Or like, there's like eight Ironman suits that are cool as
hell. It's nanotech. You like it? Right. I feel like this should be a much,
much cooler version. Borg's drone than we've seen before. And for whatever
reason, he doesn't look cooler. He looks worse. Yeah, it's, you know when like suddenly in like the mid 90s,
everybody stopped wanting to have their home electronics be black
and they wanted them to be silver. Yeah.
He's like the Iowa boom box of board drones.
Ooh, that, that one hits harder than anything I see.
Damn, dude.
Yeah, I don't know why so lumpy.
I don't know why so unfinished looking.
He's also very like, herky jerky the way he moves seems a little more bobbily than other drones.
This was an effect I was hoping would improve as he got his programming, right? Like,
as an acting exercise, you could understand if in the beginning, when you have no programming,
you would have a difficult time speaking or walking, and then as those things became installed,
you'd get better.
That never changes for him.
Yeah.
It's a choice that this actor makes and does not abandon or modulate at all.
This guy is a great actor because he acts like a Nazi in an awesome way, awesome Nazi acting.
You love that shit.
Robot acting.
Not so much.
Yeah.
And not only that, Ben.
You get Todd Bapcock on the sidelines,
watching this performance probably go in like...
Are you kidding me?
I could act like a robot better than that.
Fuck!
I was in the beginning of this clip.
This guy's supposed to be based exactly on my character's fucking DNA!
And I bring Nazi guy in!
What's that say about me?
Should I just get out of this fucking acting game?
Start a career as a plumber or something?
This is why when you go to start Trek conventions, the J Paul Boomer and Todd Babcock tables opposite sides of the floor.
They can't be close to each other.
Yeah. Real bad blood.
Yeah. And like sometimes you'll hear other people that had featured roles in other episodes of Star Trek say that they thought that John Paul Boomer had some pretty good ideas. Like he was in all that.
And Todd Babcock will fucking throw a starship model across the convention center
if he hears that kind of talk.
I don't blame him.
Yeah.
You know what John Paul Boomer has?
There's a lot of facial hair on his vinculum.
I always just got damn it up.om. I was just goddamn it up!
God!
I was just about to make that joke!
Oh!
When you have two Star Trek sponsors on the same wavelength, thinkin' to the same joke?
God damn it!
What do you need two of us for?
Ben could do the show by himself at this point. I would never.
What I was going to say about John Paul Boomer was that it takes like eight hours to get
him in the one makeup, but it takes an extra two hours to shave his makeup.
It's so much better than what I should. They're gonna take it down in stages, like all the different guards.
Oh, yeah, that thing will bind up a clipper, like nobody's business.
They got to stop it and charge it halfway through.
If you're not listening to the Star Trek Prodigy episodes on Greatest Trek, you are missing
out.
Yeah.
Yeah.
Well, so after some failed attempts at verbal communication, seven attempts, a Borg's Mind Meld,
which is a couple of probes into the neck of this drone, and it's loving, getting the information so much that it grabs under her wrist and like wants to like force her to continue feeding it information.
Yeah.
Tuvak tries to shoot him off of her because she keeps going, shoot him, shoot him.
But that doesn't work.
Hey, Tuvak, I think you can spin that rifle around and hit him with the butt of that thing.
Yeah.
At this point, that's not the thing that gets him to disengage, though.
Telling him that he's hurting her is the thing that gets him to stop.
Yeah, he complies and backs down.
And now, like, based on that experience, they're like, let's give this guy tons of information.
Oh man.
A lot of risks being taken this episode
that I don't quite understand.
So this is like one of the few episodes
that I can acknowledge the Nielix is good at getting his hands
on random shit element of his character.
Yeah, like this.
He has some like Borg's communication nodes or something.
Mm-hmm.
And he gives them to BLT and they're down in engineering working on like just giving like
database material to this drone.
He's got an insatiable appetite for this stuff.
Yeah. It doesn't make him walk any better, though.
I don't think any of the materials are about how to walk steadily. No. I mean, like, you know, my child is still an infant
and he's very wobbly. He doesn't have a ton of control over what his arms and legs are
doing. And maybe we should cut this board drone, some slack at him. What about that?
You're saying, uh, to round and Daron are very similar in that respect?
Yeah, this Dron is just like Daron, my son.
A boy.
There is a moment here that felt very savacanz-fuck to me.
This Dron is looking at the data node and he's like,
well, what the fuck am I supposed to do with this?
And seven's like, well, yeah, you stick your nodules into it.
Yeah. You finger-fuck it. And this drone is like, what mean nodules? And seven needs
to like grab his arm and flick his wrist and get these things to pop out.
I think one other thing about how lumpy and crude- looking his costume is that is not great
is that when the probes come out,
when the little tentacles come out,
they're so like perfect and clean
because they're like computer rendered
that they don't look like part of it.
I agree.
But he loves this.
He loves getting the data.
He's like, give me more.
Like, you like hit me again.
And he starts to get it.
Like as soon as he starts absorbing more of this information,
he's like, whoa, you're seven and you're Nelix.
And I'm on a ship.
And I'm me.
I'm not a part of a collective, we're friends.
I'm on Star Trek.
And then he just looks right in the camera.
Yeah. What is it with this episode and break in the fourth wall?
No one is treating him as a security threat at this point.
Seven's like, cool, things are going great.
I'm going to go do something else.
Nelix, take him to Six Bay.
Nelix, take the wheel.
And this drone is even like, I don't think that's a good idea.
But seven's like, look, I promise I'm gonna come back.
You're gonna be fine with Nelix and out in the corridor
Nelix and this newborgs take a walk while he kind of makes
rainman style observations of his world around him.
He's a precocious little murder machine.
And I thought that the scene with the doc could have been
And I thought that the scene with the doc could have been a very interesting
heightening of the doctor's feelings of resentment.
About this guy having selected a name so quickly,
do you think, is that part of the resentment?
That too, but yeah, like also having taken
his mobile emitter, like the doctor must hate him.
I love that moment, it's such a fun callback when Nielix is like,
well, what's your name?
And the drone's like, I don't got one.
And Nielix is like, you, you, one.
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The doctor explains the situation at some pressing by one.
Explains the situation that led to one's existence.
And it's a real like, was I an accident, daddy, kind of moment.
And the EMH even kind of positions himself in 7 of nine as the father and mother figures, which
has got to be especially galling to Ensign Mulkei, who is like lying on a biobed recovering from his
tubule wound off camera. I really wonder if this episode works without this specific moment or
these lines of dialogue, because this feels so much to me like a fourth person on the credits
list going, I have an idea. This should be more of a metaphor, like more obvious of a metaphor
than it is. And we need to just fucking say it.
Like, I wonder if I would feel his sacrifice a little more if it came from a place other than I'm a mistake and that is where all
myself worth is and that is how I will live my very short life.
Yeah, because like to his credit, the EMH gives an S tier the rubber broke rationalization
for why he shouldn't feel that way.
Right.
Call it a random convergence of technology.
But I was like surprised at how cool the image was being because like the image is such
a petty and resentful character.
I can't believe he's just like, no, no, you should feel totally cool about this.
Look kid, I had a tone of freedom with my mobile emitter.
I could go out and do whatever I wanted at any time.
Rambul if you will.
Yeah.
And now that it's buried in your brains, I'm fine.
It's just fine.
It's good, it's what I wanted.
Yeah.
One turns out to be very helpful down in the engineering section.
What's BLT doing?
She's like scanning the nebula or some shit.
Well, she's doing real work while seven stops
like it's a fucking tour group situation,
like showing them around engineering.
This isn't a classroom, seven.
Yeah, and like showing off engineering
and the people in it, like they are all equal objects worthy of just kind of casual descriptors like she calls BLT volatile right to her face.
Yeah.
Yeah.
BLT is like 29th century technology, huh?
Well, this panel is 24th century technology and you'll notice it's perfectly smooth.
What the hell is going on with your chest, one?
It looks like you were dragged behind a truck. perfectly smooth. What the hell is going on with your chest one?
It looks like you were dragged behind a truck.
The hell is going on in the Iowa boom box factory.
Newborgs really earns us keep in this scene. He's like,
what are you doing? BLT.
I'm going to be LT says, newborgs is like, well, I can do that right now.
Like I know exactly how to do this task that you're trying to accomplish fee-boy.
And then he jumps right in onto a keyboard and the licks that he plays.
Yeah.
They work.
Yeah.
He really brings the house down.
Yeah.
And one is integrated happily into the crew far more easily than 7 of 9
ever was.
I loved how the camera panned down to her hand and she had a pencil in it.
She snapped it.
That was a fun callback.
She co-taused to be the one doing that all the time. I love it. So one finally meets Janeway. Yeah, I was wondering what this was going to happen. How are you today?
I'm just fine.
Thank you.
It seemed like Janeway was so curious about one, and then one is born or whatever.
She doesn't come to meet him or anything. There are two ways that one is very, very different from seven.
The first is that he is really interested in knowing
how people see him in a way that seven really never has.
And if Janeway specifically approves of him,
the second is when he turns and walks away,
he has got a giant borg's dumper on him.
Like, holy moly.
Even white boys got the shout, baby got it back.
I hate to see you go, but I am still watching you leave.
Like, there is no distance you could walk away
where I'm not seeing that dumper.
Yeah, one can really throw it back.
Am I sufficient?
Why, yes.
More than sufficient, in fact, that's...
Don't want none unless you've got buns on.
They should have cut away before he turned around, Ben.
Can you imagine being in the art department and being the person that gets tasked with sculpting
the one dumper?
It didn't need to be that big.
I mean, this is an actor that's worn,
what are those Nazi jodpers?
Like, yeah.
Like, he's used to like a big butt piece of apparel back there.
How does Borg's butt look worse than Nazi pants?
Maybe that's why they cast him as a Nazi
as he's got the butt for jobpers and and just inconveniently.
You know what?
You don't want to adapt a Borg butt to fit him.
Todd Babcock is leaning back in his chair going, oh, I get it now.
All right.
It's actually fine.
I get it.
I understand.
Seven reports after he leaves that he's like starting to get a little bit curious about his,
you know, like where his adoptive family, but he's starting to get curious about his biological
family over his techno biological family, rather. And the idea of like learning about the
board to something that seven is a little bit hesitant to proceed with.
And Jane was like, well, we've kind of thrown caution to the wind so far in this episode. Why
don't we go ahead and keep doing that? You don't want a Borgs to find out from their friends, right?
You want to sit them down and tell them directly from a parent or an authority figure.
to sit them down and tell them directly from a parent or an authority figure.
Yeah. So like maybe tomorrow and seven and one head back down to the cargo bay to recharge
overnight.
And he's like, come on, mom, you got to tell me, you got to tell me about the
boards.
And she's like tomorrow, right, I do it tomorrow.
And he's like, I don't want to go to bed.
There's a monster under my alcove.
And she's like, all right,
let me get the flashlight and show you.
They sort of have like the Borg Burton Ernie
of Voyager Energy as they're going to bed here.
Great call.
I wanted to just go to sleep.
Let me get a little rest, huh?
I was surprised at this point at one not being more
articulate for having downloaded so much information for knowing so much.
Like, he's still reading his Borg Lenny to me and I was just waiting for the moment that he has a
misunderstanding that kills a bunny. Right. And by bunny, I mean someone on the crew. Yeah, like
another Mokaihi type. Right. Right.
Because Mokaihi is fine.
We saw him walk out of there.
I love how one is the kind of Borgs that sits on the toilet backwards.
Like he goes into the Alco face first.
Oh, yeah.
He's the AC Slater of 29th century Borgs.
Yeah.
This is big fun.
Hey, what's that thing beeping on his neck?
Yeah.
That seems, you know, like when they put a tracker on a car in a movie and it's
got like a bright red light, you're like, really?
Like, wouldn't a spy gadget not have a red light that would call attention to itself
like that?
Little strip of gaff tape would probably take care of that.
Yeah.
Nope, that light is him contacting a sphere.
And we get a screen grab from first contact here.
The collective is talking about how they've detected this guy
and they're altering course to intercept.
If you're breaking this episode,
would you choose to have this scene right here
or would you save the confrontation for the
end?
I kind of didn't want to be here.
I don't want to go to the Borg sphere and hear them talk about this new signal they picked
up.
There would be something really interesting about just them going to sleep and then waking
up with Janeway and every security person on the ship in the room standing in front of
them.
That's what I'm saying.
Like, how do you make this cut stronger?
I think you take out that 30 seconds before the commercial.
Because that is a rude awakening.
Yeah.
Yeah.
And Janeways, like, what have you done?
And they're like, what?
We didn't do anything.
We took them offline.
No signal.
No signal.
I'm giving you an order.
I'm giving you an order.
It was bad under spurt. I'm giving you an order. I'm giving you an UF just crossed the line. No signal no signal
Jane was like all right well go ahead and show him about the Borg like we planned I mean at this point the Borgs is out of the bag right like right they they sit him down in the ass lab and
It's safe to say that this instructional video did not land how they had hoped because
one's major takeaway is, boy, the borax are pretty neat.
What's it like to meet them?
Wolf 359, more like Wolf 360, because add me to that.
Okay, he's in the ass lab watching this video too and is like,
I had no idea.
Oh my God!
What the fuck?
The camera pans over to him in the back and he's like, Pfff. Pfff. Pfff. Pfff.
Why didn't anybody tell me about this?
It's horrible.
Yeah.
Last to find out, Mokehi.
More surprised than one.
So, Janeway, it turns to one and is like, hey, so we're about to meet these guys.
Do you think you could like soup the ship up so that we won't get killed when we meet them?
Yeah.
That's a huge amount of trust to extend.
There's coffee and the orderability
is to enhance our defenses.
It's such a weird scene because the questions and answers
are coming from so many different directions like Janeway's
like, what do you think about giving us more weapons
and defenses?
And one basically turns to seven in this very same scene and it's like, hey, what do you think about going and joining them? Do you ever think about giving us more weapons and defenses. And one basically turns to seven in this very same scene.
And it's like, hey, what do you think about going and joining them?
Do you ever think about that?
Yeah, like right in front of Janeway.
And seven is like, nope, I actually want to stay here.
And I think you should too.
What do you think about the pregnancy of that pause though?
It did seem like she had to think a long time about it.
It did.
And they didn't actually show it,
but you can hear Janeway snap a pencil in that pause.
Do you wish to rejoin the collective?
Voyager is my collective.
The take they didn't use is seven smiling
like she did at the
in response to the question. She just smiles with her eyes.
And that's why she's so alluring.
Yeah.
So one basically tells Janeway that he's got to think about it.
Like there is no answer to the question, will you help us?
Yeah.
Probably because they couldn't walk to a stride through the door. For that fucking
dumper. One is feeling a type of way as they walk down the hallway. And I really like this
scene because the hallway is like a beehive activity. People are like running to get to their
stations for a red alert situation. Imagine being afraid of the Borgs attacking you and running past a Borgs in your corridor.
Don't love that. Yeah. So they head up to the bridge where they're getting hailed by the Borgs
and being told to heave to and prepare to be bored. Do you remember the deal we made earlier
that allowed us safe passage?
And the Borgs are like,
yeah, you actually didn't say anything about it going forever.
It actually expired.
You fool.
You didn't negotiate an endless period of peace between us. Yeah. Yeah. Jane
Way is like, fuck, God damn it. There's always something in the fine print that gets me.
They go back into a void in the next episode and Jane Way super bummed about not negotiating
an endless peace agreement between Voyager and the Borgs. It was short-sighted and now
all of us are paying for my mistake. Yeah, this is just like another opportunity for her to feel super guilty about a mistake
that you made in the past. Yeah. Yeah. So the Borg's put a tractor beam on Voyager and
one sticks some tubules into the computer and is able to remodulate their shields and
break the tractor beam. And I loved this exterior shot.
It looked so cool.
Yeah.
I love getting weird with the angles.
And then he enhances their phasers and they take a shot at the sphere.
And this doesn't work.
Their technology is only so good.
There's only so much he can do.
But he has really souped their shields up.
And they're like, well, fuck,
I'm not really sure what we can do
because we can't win in a shooting war with this sphere.
And he's like, don't worry about it.
I got this one, guys.
You stay here.
I'm gonna beam over.
I'm gonna march right over there
and I'm gonna tell them to knock it off.
And he is super confident he won't be assimilated,
even though both he and Seven are hearing voices.
And it seems like they're having an effect on him
until Seven is like, you've got to resist these voices,
my friend.
Yeah.
So he does like an eye dream of genie hand movement
and beams himself over to the sphere.
And the sphere tells him resistance as futile,
and he's like, like fun it is, and starts beating up drones and hops onto a recharge station
and starts hacking the sphere. I think everything in the episode rides on this scene because you're warned about what would happen multiple times
about if this 29th century Borg's
falls into the Borg's hands and improves the Borg's
across the quadrant. Like the fact that they don't fit him with an exploding vest before
he beams over is insane. It's terrifying. They're just trusting him.
And what he does is he goes and flies the sphere
into the nebula and it crushes like a can.
It explodes, it's a huge explosion.
Great effect.
Really fun effect.
I think the Borg should have seen this coming though
because one learned how to fly a sphere
but never learned how to land a sphere, but never learned how to
land.
Yeah.
Yeah.
And also two is one.
One is none.
So precisely got to be anticipating that he would self sacrifice.
He's like the one survivor.
His personal force field was strong enough to prevent him from dying immediately,
but he's really fucked up.
And they get him to 6-BAY, and the doc is scanning him, and he's all bloody.
He's got bored brains oozing out of his head, and he needs surgery.
He's talking to 7 about, like, did it, you know, did it work?
Ship out of danger, Captain. And she's talking to him about how nice it is to be in the collective,
but he's like, again, they know about me. So they're going to be obsessed with getting me. And I
don't think we can let me fall into their hands. Yeah, I mean, he wants to die here to protect Voyager,
Yeah, I mean, he wants to die here to protect Voyager,
but also to correct God's sick plan. The accident that is won as he perceives it.
I was never meant to be.
And he goes so far as to put up a force field
to stop the doctor from saving his life.
Yeah, fucked up.
And when he dies, there's that moment of pause, where the doc looks at him, he looks at the flat line
and he's like, did he have an organ donation card
or can I just go in and get my emitter back?
Yeah, I also thought it was kind of a weird choice
to do kind of comic relief right here,
but the doc tries to do that thing where he reaches
and pushes his eyelids closed, but the force field is still up, so he can't get his hand
in there.
Yeah, that's tough.
Yeah.
So the book end of the episode is a shot of seven looking into that same mirror from the
beginning, only this time, sad.
Yeah.
Maybe she'll turn on his alcove some other time.
You think you just tear the alcove out
or you just turn the power off to it at this point.
Oh, yeah.
Maybe she leaves it exactly like he left it.
Oh, yeah.
It's like kind of like a parent
with a kid who's gone up to college.
Mm-hmm.
Yeah.
Not my parents, but.
Oh, yeah.
Yeah.
You know, more sentimentally minded parent.
As soon as I had crossed the threshold of our front door on my way to the car,
shit was being done to my room.
Yeah, suddenly this is a guest room, interesting.
Pretty nice composition at the end of her with the Tesla coil behind her head,
that final scene, and also like a pretty affecting performance here by
Jerry Ryan.
Truly.
I thought that she was great throughout this episode, but did you like the episode overall?
Yeah, did you like throughout the episode?
You know, I'm maybe easy to get along with, most of the time, but I don't like bullets,
I don't like friends, and I don't like you.
I think starting from the end, Jerry Ryan carries this episode as a main cast character in a
way that seemed momentous.
Like the captain of the ship is mostly sideline during a story that is an existential threat to everyone there. It's really Seventh's
job to figure this out. That said, like, what happens in this episode is a lot better than
what we see in this episode. And I think sadly, so much of it has to do with one's chest.
Sadly, so much of it has to do with one's chest.
Like it's on screen a ton.
It's hard to take him seriously as a threat when he is just kind of a slow borgs about it, even though we're meant to believe that he's superior in every way.
I wonder why they chose not to make him linguistically superior.
Like a little faster on the uptake,
a little athletic looking in the walking around, like make him a superhero because telling
me he's a superhero and describing all the cool things he can do and only seeing like
one trick, the transporter trick, like he wasn't impressive enough for me.
Yeah. Yeah. And this actor is used to playing
very impressive characters on Star Trek, you know, master characters, if you will. Our blood is pure.
And uh, just don't think he rose to that level with one. And one is such an interesting character.
I thought I thought he deserved more interesting ideas, but the execution, I don't know.
It's hard to articulate the improvements that I would make outside of that chest, but
I think it starts with that chest.
If the chest rose to the level of the ass, maybe we would be more praising of this episode.
Yeah.
What did you think, Ben?
I think this episode is really entertaining. You know,
first and foremost, that's an important metric. But yeah, like it definitely felt like a non-dangerous
Borgs episode, like which I hate. Yeah. And like much less interrogation of the captains kind of
less interrogation of the captains kind of willing this to risk everything, to try a thing out with the Borgs that I would have wanted in an episode.
Like I think this would have been a really interesting two-parter and really like go
into all of the angles on this.
And you know, like that could be a richer storyline about the doctor grieving the loss of his mobile
emitter, but you know, coming to have a respect for this character or something, you know, more
about everybody questioning what the captain is up to and her having to make a more full-throated
defense of her plan. Right. Scarrier, enemy encounters with boards. I mean, serialize this like you did the heroogen message.
Like, that was running in the background of half a dozen episodes.
There's no reason why you couldn't slow down the gestation of this thing
and make it something you really think about for a long time.
And like, that scene about BLC being volatile,
like, make one more volatile, make him more tempted
to be the worst kind of borg's more times, you know.
The show so interested in teaching people how to be human, I know the very name is racist,
but like with how much care the doc takes in bringing seven up and socializing her and stuff,
there is that story baked in here and that never happens.
Right.
It would have been nice if it had happened, but it doesn't.
Yeah.
Well, do you want to see if there's anything nice in the priority one inbox at them?
Yeah, I'm just checking out the costume design on these P1s.
Priority one message from Starfleet coming in on Secured Channel. Need a supplement? P1's.
Adam our first P1 is of a promotional nature.
Goes like this.
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PSB Brooklyn is a company founded by a very good friend of mine, Jamal Richardson.
Yeah, and we both were sent a couple of bottles
of this hot sauce bin.
Yeah, and I actually just yesterday in the mail,
Adam received the box car gift box.
Whoa.
We're getting dinner tonight.
I will bring this and you can pick a couple more bottles out.
Cool.
Of the gift box.
It's really beautiful.
I really liked the sauce that we were sent before and what's more, I fucking respect
that they didn't put the little dober thing on the end of the bottle.
Yeah.
Like, that is a full on pour spout that you need to be careful when you're using because
I made some eggs with it a couple mornings ago and oversawed.
It was delicious.
Jamal is a great dude. I met him.
He was a bartender when I met him.
He was instrumental in my wife and I in our courtship.
We would go to the bar that he worked at all the time.
Wow.
I've traveled the world with Jamal.
He's a really talented photographer
and videographer. And I really hope people will check this out. So go to pspbrookland.com
and get that hot sauce. Yeah. I mean, I think we're both people that have Miriam hot sauces.
Yeah. In their pantries. I go to this one all the time. Yeah. This is one of my go-to hot
sauces in the house. Yeah. The mango maruga one is my personal faith.
If you're looking for an endorsement,
but I also really like the green one.
Yeah.
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Ben, our second priority on message is from Kathleen
and it just to Ben and Adam.
Message goes like this, you guys have given hours of entertainment
for many walks with my dogs,
studying for veterinary boards,
maternity de-leaves with my kids,
and more.
Thanks for being the dick-filled soundtrack
of all of life's big and small events.
I'm gonna stop the reading right there
and just turn to Cameron and be like Kathleen.
Are you missing a word there?
Is that what you meant to say?
You're saying that you left out joke?
Yeah.
I mean, in her defense, we also leave out jokes.
Sure.
In what we do.
Message continues, you always make me laugh and genuinely make the world a more fun place
to be and congrats to Ben on Baby.
Enjoy the ride.
Thank you, Kathleen.
Ah, what a sweet message.
And boy, congrats on veterinary boards and the kids of your own.
That's amazing.
Yeah.
You've had a very busy couple of years.
Doing the important work as a veterinary professional.
You and I have encountered many of those over the years.
Indeed.
And they do great work.
They do.
They're very much appreciated.
Well, thanks to everyone that got a P1 this week,
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Hey, Ben what's that Adam? Did you find yourself a drunk Shimoda?
Oh boy
I'm gonna give it to Mulkei. We recently reviewed an episode of Baywatch on our hit bonus podcast, The Santa Monica Mountains.
And Craig Pomeroy, the lawyer lifeguard,
gets beat up at one point in that episode off camera
and then they drive him into the town
that they're visiting in a Jeep
and like push him out of the Jeep
and then he's like lying in the dirt
and his buddies have to come gather around him.
And it's one of those, how fucked up is he?
Is he a dire need of immediate medical attention
because he was so weak he couldn't prevent himself
from being pushed out of this Jeep,
and now he's just lying on the dirt road.
And Mulkay, he very much the same vibe here where he's just like lying.
He doesn't like radio for help.
He doesn't call for backup.
He doesn't do anything, but go into this room and then get found lying on the floor.
But then they're like, help him to 6 Bay.
And he gets up and walks to 6 Bay with a couple of security guys.
How hurt is he or not?
They needed to help him better.
Okay.
Ben, my Shimoda is also okay, he,
but the reasons are more simple.
Okay.
It's that I just want to give him the respect
that this episode does not.
Okay.
And that is that.
Yeah, fair enough.
Keep it simple.
I like it.
Well, Adam, I'm going to head over to the Game of Buttholes,
The Will of the Caretaker at Gach.BizslashGame.
Our next episode is season five, episode three, Extreme Risk. In order to retrieve a probe stuck in a hazardous atmosphere.
Tom Parris designed a new type of shuttlecraft.
Wow, so they're just gonna talk about replacing a shuttlecraft
in one episode and the very next episode,
they will have replaced it.
Yeah, they just go ahead and do it.
You know what the big reveal should be? What?
It's a brat with a cover over the bed. Isn't that just a cross trek? Yeah. Well, Adam or Shuttle are,
I mean, we're not even a shuttle. It's a runabout. Sure is. That is on square 93 at present.
Then do we need to replace the runabout?
Do we need to replace it with a brat
or something else for Voyager?
Man, I mean, we could replace it with a Delta flyer,
but there's already a Delta flyer
on represented on the board, you know?
What do you talk?
I don't know what a Delta flyer is.
I'll explain when you're older.
Okay.
So yeah, I'm gonna go ahead and roll this bone.
It looks like the only thing I could hit is a space butthole that would take us to an
nth degree extensive research episode, probably the most popular square on the board.
People really like the type of research we do when we hit those.
Someone on the internet mentioned that we needed more episodes with no notes.
Yeah. I kind of agree. Someone on the internet mentioned that we needed more episodes with no notes.
Yeah, I kind of agree.
Yeah, the recent episodes of Greatest Trek have made people think that the writing ideas down ahead of time has been our greatest folly over the years.
You're required to learn as you play.
Roll.
The prevailing wisdom is that the show is better
when we try less.
I'm gonna go ahead and roll this bone, Adam.
And I've hit a three.
Chula!
Did I win?
Putting us on Square 96 regular episode next week.
Nice.
But we are now tantalizingly close to a more
enamored episode.
I'm afraid.
It's right there.
How about that?
Yeah.
Very cool.
All right.
Well, that will just about do it for this
episode.
We got some credits, though, right?
We got to bore people with some credits.
The credits are never boring.
This is my parents' favorite part of the show,
because they know they can listen to
something that they want to hear pretty soon.
Ben, I mentioned up top that I was able
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The only way I was able to do that was
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Yeah, when I moved a couple of years ago
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Like the fact that this show sounds good,
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And check it out, you might fucking hate me and Ben.
Mm-hmm. But Wendy's job is easier
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Hmm.
Where do new shuttles come from?
When a pilot and an engineer love each other very much, Adam.
Oh, no.
That is going to be a difficult birth for BLT.
She's going to have to put the engineering smock back on for a little while.
Yeah.
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