The Greatest Generation - Vagrant Bareil (DS9 S6E8)
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I'm Adam Prenica.
How you doing, Adam?
We haven't really talked about your move much on this show.
We've been talking about it on great as Discovery,
since that show tends to be a little bit more timely.
Right.
But you've moved down to Los Angeles,
amidst the pandemic that is gripping the world.
So not able to explore your new neighborhood much.
My timing has always been impeccable.
Hahaha.
Yeah, it's a weird time to have done this for sure.
But luckily, it's given us plenty to do indoors, you know,
unpacking is a time consuming indoor project.
Yeah, and you've got nothing with time for that.
Yeah, I am delighted that, you know, the promise of us doing the show together was quickly extinguished
once I moved to LA, and we're doing it like we always have.
Yeah.
Yeah.
This is our natural habitat, though.
We know how to do this.
It's right.
It's right and good.
I have not ventured out to the post office recently
because I'm trying to limit how much
leaving the house I'm doing.
That's smart.
But you have some pre-pandemic mail there I'm led to believe.
I do.
I've found a package that we have not opened on the show
and I thought I would do it for us right now.
That sounds great. Captain, I'm sorry to disturb you.
I'm receiving a code 47.
Verify?
It is code 47, sir.
Start lead emergency frequency.
Captions eyes only.
This is a squishy package from Curtis in Santa Cruz, California.
Hey, Santa Cruz.
It's like a little...
It's like a little throw It's like a little...
It's like a little throw pillow.
I almost hate to open it.
She uses an accent pillow on your couch.
I want to apologize to Curtis because I imagine he sent this to us a long, long time ago.
And inside we have got a letter and a couple of t-shirts.
Four t-shirts. Wow. Here's the letter. To Quark.
For information leading to the arrest of noted arms dealer, Haggith,
honor about start 850182 and preventing the deaths of 28 million sentient beings on Hallimar.
We award you the enclosed tokens of the Federation's esteem.
And at the bottom it says United Federation of Planets, Bureau of Awards and
Recognition. Oh wow, is this on like official letterhead? Oh, and then there's
there's another letter in here. Oh, stated 111 of this year. Wow. Sorry Curtis. We've been busy. Here's here's what's
on that. That says Dear Ben and Adam somehow. These got delivered to me. But I thought you
could make much better use of them. Best wishes for podcast success in 2020. PS, I know nothing bad will happen this year.
Wow! Curtis, you really got that one wrong.
Alright, so these all look to be the same shirt, so I am going to open up one of them.
There are two larges and two extra larges. Wow.
I mean, I understand the assumption, Curtis.
And, uh, oh, it looks like, uh,
it looks like our logo was appropriated for this.
The shirt says I save 28 million lives,
and all I got was this Lousy T-shirt.
That's great!
I love the reference.
Wow.
How about Quark choosing the path of not murdering 28 million people?
And all the credit that goes with it.
Yeah.
This is a sure, unfortunately, Curtis, that I don't know
that I could wear in public in these trying times.
This may be the most inappropriate shirt I could wear
at the moment.
Ha, ha, ha.
There was a, in the late 90s, a store in downtown
Berkeley that sold t-shirts with jokes on them.
And was it a store called Crazy Shirts,
which is a name of a store you often see in a tourist town?
It was called T-shirt orgy, and even better.
Yeah, it was, you know, like a bioposter of ferrofosite
and a T-shirt with a joke on it kind of place.
And at some point, I was there with like a friend
and they insisted that I buy this shirt
that was made to look like a Nike T-shirt
And it said just do it, but it showed a guy jumping off of a building and I happened to wear that shirt to school on
9-11
On the actual 9-11. Yeah, and it was like one of the most uncomfortable
feelings I've ever had.
That is...
That is...
Because of how off note, like it was already a distasteful t-shirt,
and on that particular day, maybe the most distasteful t-shirt.
I mean, sometimes your tangents just conclude today like,
oh, that's really interesting and fun.
That might have been your best tangential story
you've ever told on the show.
Wow.
Or at least my favorite.
Yeah, I think somebody like lent me something to put over it
or something aware instead of it for the rest of the day.
And then it never came out again. I don't know, I don't even know what happened to that shirt.
Wow. That is incredible. Is that the most embarrassed you've ever been in public wearing
an unsuitable garment? I mean, that's hard to beat. That could be it. It's... I haven't thought about that in years.
It's something I don't often think about.
I think I've suppressed the memory.
Oh, I love that.
Just the image of you walking around with your arms crossed the entire day.
Yeah.
Maybe my French teacher cry.
You're sure? Yeah. Oh, baby. I mean, nerves were afraid that day, Yeah. Made my French teacher cry. You're sure? Yeah. Oh, bad. I mean, nerves were
afraid that day, obviously. I'm not trying to make her just feel bad. Yeah, you know what
you did? You made them feel better because his shirt isn't as bad as that one. Yeah, that's
that's what I was going for. Wow. I think many people who watch today's episode
might have felt the same way about it,
and that you follow up some real bangers in season six.
You can't really hate it.
It's not as bad as many other DS9 episodes,
but I don't know, man.
Why don't we just get into it?
Let's get into it.
Let's talk our way through it.
It's season six, episode eight, resurrection.
What?
Do you realize how incredible this is?
Oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh Dax doing a little dish, gossiping about some men, including
Captain Bo-Dead of the USS Motel 6, being floated as a possible date candidate for a dinner
party later.
Captain Bo-Dead has a transparent skull.
Seriously people, DMI.
You love to hear Captain Bo-Dead being brought up even here in season six, a throwaway line.
I think that that's one of the strengths of Deep Space 9 and of the greatest generation,
is that a throwaway line can become a runner for the rest of the show.
I like that with every reference there is an additional detail about how terrifying he looks.
And all of those add up to the main reason why we will never see him on this show.
Yeah.
At this point, he just looks like Pete to the hut to me.
Yeah, Dax and Kira need to brainstorm date for Kira to bring to a dinner party that Dax is throwing.
And they just can't come up with someone. It's just who could Kira be dating?
No one's good enough for Kira. That's my opinion.
You would like to try for it. In the end, that's sort of where she rests at the end of the episode.
Maybe she's just going to go stag.
Yeah, they get on a elevator to Ops and this question is answered fairly quickly upon their
arrival in Ops.
They briefly touch on the idea of it being Odo.
Mr. Bunkie.
But that's still too hot of a potato.
But they get to ops and I never know what to bring to these things.
I brought a six pack of beer, but it's not really beer. It's just part of me that I made look like a six pack of beer.
And I'm embarrassed that I don't actually have any beer to serve. I don't want you to drink me.
One time I brought up bouquet of flowers and I just ended up resting my arm
in the middle of the table the entire evening.
Ha ha ha ha.
Could you drink some of Odo
and when it passed out of you,
could it reintegrate with him?
I mean, that's...
If you did the blood test on Odo and it went gold,
could you knock that back like a shot
and then have it be available to him
to be part of his body again later?
I wonder if he could summon
that separate piece of himself through you.
Oh.
Either in a motility enhancement,
like it just zooms through you and in the way that anything would,
or if he could withdraw it from you like through your chest or your esophagus and if it could
just shoot down the front of you.
If it goes to your butthole, then Dr. Odo is definitely the person you want to see if
you've got a constipation issue.
Right.
Because you can just get you moving again.
Yeah, that's he's he's like
caster oil. You could sell Odo in a in a health food store.
Melcof Magnesia eat your heart out. Welcome to the tummy temple.
Welcome to the tummy temple. I don't mind the smell.
Yeah.
It'd be very popular in parts of Beverly Hills, I imagine.
Sure.
Have you ever had a shape shifter colonic?
I'm sure it would feel incredible.
I think it's some indications on the instruments up in ops that somebody is attempting to beam
in.
No ships are in range to beam in, which kind of defies the establishing shot of the station
that we saw at the beginning of the episode, which showed lots of ships around the station.
Yeah, that is unusual.
A little bit of a mismatch between the visuals and the dialogue, but sure enough,
somebody materializes on the platform
and they're kind of like hunched over facing the wrong way,
like a preteen dancer about to participate
in a talent show.
Sometimes I doubt your commitment to sparkle motion.
I thought this person was in the Terminator crouch.
You know, complete with the static and lightening
of the beam in, it felt very Terminator to me.
But unlike the Terminator, this person has a gun.
Right.
It's vagrant Bariol.
He's got a gun, you guys.
You know what, maybe the most horrifying part of seeing Vagrant Varyle here holding a
disruptor is that he's showing emotion.
Yeah.
A very different type of character for Philippine.
I mean, we know everybody from the Mirror universe is sort of the opposite of their prime
universe counterpart. So it would stand to reason that
mirror, mirror, barile would be a passionate and somewhat textured character.
Yeah. And in contravention of every other time we've ever seen him, we get an interesting version of Baryle to theme.
This is one of these things that we deal with with the mirror universes, that people that are dead on one side are not necessarily dead on the other. We've dealt with that with Cisco's wife,
we've dealt with that with Odo. Now we're going to deal with it with
Cura's. It's kind of a tropey episode premise, right? Oh yeah. But a trope that is like native
to deep space nine specifically, they are doing what if you met somebody that was dead on the other
side, but in this universe? I really like the order, like we've talked a lot about,
album sequencing as it relates to a season.
I really like the order that this episode is coming in.
Yeah.
Because I could not wipe the smile off of my face
watching this entire thing play out.
I love that that vagrant barile, like as soon as he shows up
on the station is doing that thing where he asks for a helicopter to meet him on the roof and like the bag of money.
Like what kind of fucked up heist is this?
They've had enough heists on deep space nine that it seems like they've actually put some security measures in place to deal with it. because when Cisco radios down to Odo for the chopper,
he has some radio code for that, 7-1 green,
which means, yeah, get him the chopper,
but have you and a couple more security people
be waiting for him on it.
I love when Odo shows up.
He's like, I don't necessarily have a problem
with you holding opposite gunpoint,
but I really don't like how
you've wrapped your arm around Kira.
That's one thing I can't forgive.
Yeah.
So we get a long walk with Kira and Vigrant Beryl where she attempts to glean some information
out of him.
Yeah, they're not gonna take the elevator
because he doesn't trust it.
I mean, he says that they could just turn off
the turbo lift and they'd be trapped inside.
I always wonder about what a transporter could do
in a situation like this.
Yeah, yeah.
Cause like, you never see somebody like hugging somebody
that gets transported away.
It seems like maybe the transporter,
you see two people get transported that close,
but never one but not the other.
So you wonder if the annular confinement beam
would be incapable of distinguishing
at that close proximity between two bodies or something?
Yeah, you get a belief that your hands can feel a little melty.
If you attempted to do it that way.
Describe the disorder,
transporter psychosis.
The long walk is a great opportunity for them to get to know each other a little bit and
get some steps in.
Yeah, and for Rihals to sort of get his bearings, he is not totally sure that he has arrived
in Prime Universe, so he needs to apply Kira for a little bit of information.
And not with the alliance, are you?
They get to climb 57 stories on a ladder to get to the landing pad.
I wonder if it was down or up because,
oh, does it show?
Well, here's the thing, like we know
ops is in the hub part of the station
and when we cut to the exterior again
and the runabout where we're on an upper docking pile on,
so I just assumed it was up.
Wow, shit, that's exhausting.
I don't think it makes it any easier at that number,
like 57 stories in either direction, I think,
is just gonna make you sore.
I do think you could climb 57 stories on a ladder,
like if right now somebody brought a 57 story ladder.
No question.
Do you think you could get up it?
Yeah. Wow. I don't think I could Do you think you could get up it? Yeah. Wow. No, I don't think I
could. I think you could do. And the reason I say that is because I think at a certain height,
your endorphins would be flooding into your bloodstream. You'd be so high and scared. Like, I think
I think I think your body would act differently than it normally would.
It wouldn't feel like just a stair climber in a gym situation.
I think you underestimate how sleepy I am at him.
Well, I mean, I can certainly hear it.
Gold to cut.
Gold to cut.
Gold to cut.
Gold to cut.
So.
This is a bit that Kira has done, because by the time they get outside the doorway
to the runabout, Kira has known the entire time
that his gun is out of bullets.
Yeah, she spotted that something was cracked on his phaser.
You're not gonna kill anyone, not with that disruptor.
Power cells cracked.
And now is a good time, as any,
to do some Kirk Foo on him.
So she drops that ax handle on him
and brings him to the ground.
Yeah, and then Odo rushes out,
and they spirit him away to the jail cells,
which he's very impressed with.
This is like a five star jail cell,
as far as he's concerned.
He's been in a mall.
What do you think are the like legal protections for an MU who comes into the prime universe? Does he have the right to remain silent? Does he have the right to an attorney or as a universal
interloper? Does he waive those rights? I think it's like anytime you travel to a foreign country,
you're subject to the laws of the land.
Hmm.
But if you like, called the Mirror Universe State Department,
the Mirror Universe Embassy II, Deep Space IX,
maybe they could like, pull some strings and get them out.
That would be great. They should set up an embassy there.
Oh, really would be awesome.
Why hasn't diplomatic ties been established between the Mirror universe and the Prime
universe?
So I guess they have padded a vagrant barial down because Kira is fondling the multi-dimensional
transporter device that she lifted off of him. Yeah. And Vagrant Barrel asks about his prime universe counterpart
in this scene.
He's interested in knowing what that person was like.
And it's a question that just puts cure to sleep
almost immediately.
Ha ha ha ha ha ha.
Yeah, she just collapses on the floor
and that's the end of the episode.
Yeah.
That prop, the multi-dimensional transporter device looked like a star war prop to me.
Yeah, it really did.
And it's the red light, right?
It's the dark metal and the red light, I think that does it for me.
Yeah, it's very rare that you see something in Star Trek that looks like it's from a different
sci-fi franchise, but that really did.
Beryl asks for Kira to destroy this thing, so he has to stay.
That's how much he likes his jail cell.
Yeah, that's not what Kira is going to do, though.
So she goes up and talks to Ben Sisko, and they have a conversation about what it's like
to reconnect with a dead flame, but the evil version.
I know what you're going through, Major.
Yeah, he knows exactly what that's like.
He's got some advice for it.
I mean, I really like this scene.
This is the kind of scene I always want in an episode like this where the characters talk about how weird it is and how it like fucks with your psyche to talk to somebody
that looks exactly like the person you loved, but that isn't actually them.
We want these conversations all the time, like characters who have been through similar
situations to share their stories.
And that's why O'Brien...
I am Chief Miles Edward O'Brien.
This is fucking spectacular!
Talks to vagrant Parryle in the jail cell.
O'Brien famously being someone who spent a lot of time in prison.
Yeah.
It's not the jail I hate, it's the man that it made me that I hate.
It's the fact that I now have to wear this giant fluffy beard for the rest of my life.
Yeah, Cisco knows how much trouble the mirror universe could get you into sexually.
Right.
So, he has some advice of caution for Kira.
Yeah, he pushes across his desk the mirror universe brand condoms.
Guaranteed to get you pregnant. Yeah.
We sort of elliptically cut back to the promenade where Baryle is a free man.
We understand that this conversation didn't do a whole lot in convincing Kira to use the
caution that Cisco is prescribing here.
Yeah, well, and she didn't press charges.
She's the aggrieved victim of the alleged crime and since she hasn't pressed charges,
she's been let out and he cleans up a little bit but not that much, you know.
I feel like a vagrant barile, where's a far deeper V than Vedic barile, is that the case?
Yeah, the vagrant barile is showing some cleavage off in a big way.
I won time, but a T-shirt that was too deep of a V like this and I just found it unwaverable.
You sometimes ever buy an accidentally too deep V?
I think there was a time when I had some very deep V's and, you know, like Brooklyn gets so hot in the summers that
sometimes you're just like, I don't care. I need to be wearing less.
You know. Take that V all the way down. Take it all the way to the floor, baby. But just make that V
a cardigan t-shirt. Yeah. And not only button the bottom button.
Yeah.
Yeah, but I don't know.
It's not like a look that I put on to impress anybody.
Say that.
You really need...
I don't have the chest that Vagrant Browell has.
I was just gonna say, you need the right body
for a V like that and I don't have that.
Yeah, I've just, I've got a chest full of nubbens. I don't want people looking at that.
Vigrant morale is getting all kinds of looks. The looks the day celebrity gets when they
walk out in public. That's because he is kind of a celebrity. Vetic morale was, was a famous
person. He almost became the guy. Yeah, and so it's a fun bit of business
seeing these compositions where he's out in public
and seeing all the background actors react to him.
It's people seeing the guy they wish
had been elected president walking around.
Like, oh, God, at a time like this, it'd be really nice.
It's a fun bit of business here
because vagrant barile is not a religious person whatsoever
and he's getting the credit for being one.
He doesn't seem to really even know that much about
the Bajoran religion and I think like later in the episode
it becomes clear that he maybe knows
a little bit more than he's letting on.
But it seems like the implication here is that the Bajoran religion essentially does not exist on the other side of the
coin. The Mirror Universe doesn't have any analogous faith tradition on Bajor, and so
he kind of goes into this as a total ignoramus, and Kara wants to invite him into services at the temple. He initially
declines, but then finds his way in there. And this is actually, I think, our first trip
to Bajur in church. I think it is, because I was shocked to see that it was a galley-style
temple. Yeah, it kind of got the dimensions of one of those like one of those strip mall
chapels that you see in like parts of the south. Very very tiny little room.
We're refinishing the floors of the Scali style temple. When you're not working with
a lot of width, you want to be sure to align the boards lengthwise.
You make the space look much larger than it is really.
We're drawing the eye toward the centerpiece at the end of the room,
which is that the jaw and shape that you see everywhere.
It seems to both be the symbol of their religion and their combat.
God, you know Rich Trithouille would be in there like trying to do
Bajorin religion during his time on the show.
Like in the greatest way, like I love, like the part that makes his visit to the
the Motown Museum, almost an equal proportion horrifying and fun is that he's
so game for it.
Yeah.
And, and you know he'd be totally game for Bejure and Religion.
Right.
Yeah.
He's like, he's going to bring that same level of boomer enthusiasm to anything he gets involved
with.
I love him so much.
Yeah, but this is scary, right?
Like, what, what Vagrant Barrel does here is that
there was a person sitting next to Kira
and then he either, like he taps them out
or it's understeak.
It's kind of like, can I cut in a USO dance kind of deal?
Come on, buddy.
It's an avia dance.
That part gave me the cringes.
Yeah, I feel like they could have just had him,
had there be a spare seat next to her
that he could have come in and sat in.
I mean, the time to switch seats
is probably during the piece of the world
part of the ceremony, you know?
Oh, yeah, peace be with you.
Yeah.
Yeah.
You can just, you can just cut the lip
next to her at that point.
Is this all of our Burton directed episode?
It is.
Yeah.
I wonder what motivated that choice?
Because it's just like what's the blocking of this scene going to be?
What are we going to have the extras doing kind of decision?
Yeah.
I think he is in the regular well of directors on this show.
I'm not saying why did they decide to have him direct this.
I'm saying why did he decide or why did anyone decide to have an extra in that seat?
Yeah, that is a great question.
It's an unanswerable question.
Because it's like, it's a moment that we both noticed that it bumped us like, wow, weird.
That somebody would be made to move in a, you know, in the middle of a religious ceremony.
Total bullshit, man. It's just bullshit.
And where did they go?
They were just asked to leave. Sorry, this guy is more important. He's got lines you don't.
Yeah.
You know what's interesting is that all of the Bejure and React shots that we see outside the temple are less so within that temple.
Right. Yeah. And that would be a great reason for this person to have moved, right? Like,
oh shit, that's a Vedic baryle. Yeah. I just be like, if a McElroy, like, not that this would
ever happen, but if a McElroy came into the audience of one of our live shows, like people would be,
you know, distracted, I think.
People would take the microphones from the stage and put them in front of whoever that
McElroy was.
Yeah, yeah.
And rightly so, I think.
He's very curious to know what's in the box because they bring in one of the orb cases
and she explains to him what the orbs are and what they mean to the Bedurren people.
Yeah.
This will become important later.
Kira is kind of the religious Sherpa to VIP Barrel, wrap you up the suit.
Yeah.
After the ceremony, they kind of post-game it in the hallway.
Yeah.
It's a lot like taking somebody to like a sporting event that they've never seen that sport before. Like, oh yeah, so this is the hallway. It's a lot like taking somebody to a sporting event that they've never seen that sport before.
Like, oh yeah, so this is the batter.
He's going to try and hit the ball and then he's going to see if he can get the first
second third.
You know, like she's both giving him the play by play of how it works, but also the top
level.
Like, oh yeah, this team is trying to go here.
It's very difficult to explain the infield orbrew.
Kira is answering a bunch of questions posed by Vagrant Baryle, but Baryle also answers
a question that Kira has had for a long time,
and that question is who should Kira invite to this dinner at the Wurf DAX residents?
Do you like cling on food?
They're serving cling on food, and that's like a smash cut to this hang,
which baryle, DAX, and Kira are having a great time at, and Worf is having a terrible time at. There's something in Worf's attitude here
that is very familiar to me as a semi-frequent,
let's have dinner with her work friends. Ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha But as the scene plays out, what you understand is it's not that Worf is upset that Vagrant Brial is at his dinner table. It's the story he's telling of stealing a
mechleth from a Klingon warrior that he doesn't believe.
It's sort of insulting Worf's sense of pride as a Klingon.
Right. That's one hell of a story.
And that is all it is, a story. And Vrant bryall is not really at pains to put
Wurf adees because the whole thing is about stealing a mechleth from a
from a cling on which wharf rejects categorically as a thing that would even be
possible and then vagrant bryall really fucking drags him by stealing
Warf's own mechleth to cut the dessert cake. He does close up magic. Oh my god, this is crazy.
You're getting wet.
During dessert.
Pulse it out of the worst ear.
And Borf just starts running.
Like he just runs out at the room.
Ha, ha, ha.
It's great.
Yeah.
I love how he slices through that,
what is that?
It's a clone.
Kind of a gelatinous substance.
Yeah, maybe a, maybe a creme caramel.
Yeah.
It was red food coloring in it.
That looked good.
It looked okay.
I'm partial to a creme brulee, personally.
I want that crunchy texture.
I mean, that could have been a crumb crust at the bottom.
Oh.
That's an interesting idea.
But you know that blades can have to be sharp
to cut through that crumb.
Oh, yeah.
Yeah, it's gonna be like, uh, like sushi knife sharp.
Right.
Right.
Worf keeps his blade, you know, in good shape.
This is how you earn warfs respect, though, because I think there's a big
grudging kind of, well, all right, then, kind of, kind of vibe to work.
During the dessert course, get the fuck out of my to Worf during the dessert course.
Get the fuck out of my house, but also game recognize games.
Yeah.
How does the saying go?
My game will recognize your game.
Did you see that Worf had his champion standing batlet trophy up on the wall?
I love it.
That's where the last is.
Yeah.
Very proud of Worf. I was triumphant on the wall. I love it. That's where the last is. Yeah. Very proud of worth.
I was triumphant on the walk home.
Kira and Vagrant Baryle talk about what a gift having good friends is.
And then the conversation goes super sad when Vagrant Baryle takes it in a must-be nice kind of
direction. Conversationally. Yeah. Let's say one of those pitfalls where you
you realize that you're just like
salting the wound of the person you're talking to.
Right.
Accidentally.
Curious like, boy, I sure do like friends.
They're the best.
Somehow this doesn't ruin
curious chances with vagrant beryl though
because she invites him in for Ractagino
and anyone who's watched Seinfeld knows Ractag him in for Ractagino, and anyone who's watched
Seinfeld knows Ractagino is not Ractagino. Ractagino is sex.
It's very true, and we get to see it. I mean, not it, but we get to see the prelude do it.
He doesn't take it out. Right, because Inside Kira's apartment, Vagrant Barrel has regaled Kira with the, with
like, what is pretty awful pillow talk, to be honest.
The story of a woman he knew who got killed in a bar that they were at by a drunken
Cardassian with a disruptor.
And it's a story that, it's a story absolutely fled to Kyra's basement for some reason.
Yeah, who knew? Who knew this was the path to her heart?
Yeah, it really does the trick because-
I have some grim and terrifying tales as well.
If I had only known.
Are you saying that being a huge bummer is the way to get care of the sleep with you?
If so, what have I been doing the last six seasons but being a huge bummer?
Yeah, we get that fun, gauzy fade to the next morning.
Yeah.
And that's hard to tell if Bigger Beryl is wearing his V-neck or not because his V-neck was
so big before.
He does look like you shirtless here though. Yeah. He's eating some all of us, some type of nut from
Bajor. Is prime universe food less filling? That seems to be the context we're getting here.
Maybe less filling but also tastier. He says that nothing in the MU tastes as good as this stuff.
And you have to think like he's probably been fed like kelpian
gills and stuff. He's probably had to eat some pretty nasty stuff.
Yeah, that's true. But also, he's going to make I bet. Yeah. Working up an app shape.
Yeah, I was just wishing he would do like a bit,
like these are good alvests,
but what do you know about desolves?
Yeah, I would like him a lot more if you've done that.
If it was funny, yeah?
That would also be opposite of prime universe Braille, so they could have done that. If it was funny, you know, that would also be opposite of prime universe, Braille, so
they could have done it.
Yeah.
You know what, Vigrant Braille does have some self-awareness in this scene because he pivots.
He's like not a great, he's that guy that talks about the thing you're not supposed to talk about at the time that he's talking about it because
Right.
And the morning after he decides is when he's going to ask about how weird it must be for Kira to have lost her boyfriend and then be fucking that boyfriend
At this moment.
This must be very strange for you.
No misstep is not taken and yet she is totally enraptured with him.
You know, at least vagrant barile is trying some things.
Yeah.
You know, Vedic barile would never even begin a conversation with anyone.
Yeah, he's just doing a siddoku off the corner.
Uh-huh.
Later that morning, Bashir arrives in ops to find out whether Kira got fucked or not.
So I might stretch my legs, see what was happening in ops.
Kira hasn't shown up yet.
It's like he brings a pad of information up that he could very easily have emailed and
everybody calls him on it.
He's wearing a bandalier-lear of speculums to apps. Yeah.
Yeah.
Oh, this?
I just wear it just in case.
In case anyone's vagina needs to be examined.
Julian, Kira's personal life is wrong.
I'll also need a urine sample.
He's like wheeling a squeaky exam table with like stirrups sticking at the end of it.
The rupus, like banging it into the walls
and like trying to get it out of the elevator.
Yeah.
I had to use the service elevator.
Yeah.
She's perfectly happy to let everybody know
that it went down last night.
Yeah.
And they're all happy to hear it.
They're happy for it.
Warp appears to have won a gentleman's bet.
You think Warp could have smelled it?
Like we know that about Klingons, right?
Really hypersensitive sense of smell.
Oh, you can smell when somebody's gotten busy.
Yeah, I bet.
I bet he could. I'm a rain, come to a Ford, I'm a rain, come to a Ford.
I'm a rain, come to a Ford, I'm a rain, come to a Ford.
What are you doing?
I'm a rain, come to a Ford.
What are you doing now?
I'm a rain, come to a Ford.
I'm a rain, come to a Ford.
I'm a rain, come to a Ford.
I'm a rain, come to a Ford.
I'm a rain, come to a Ford.
I'm a rain, come to a Ford.
I'm a rain, come to a Ford.
I'm a rain, come to a Ford.
I'm a rain, come to a Ford.
I'm a rain, come to a Ford.
I'm a rain, come to a Ford.
I'm a rain, come to a Ford. I'm a rain, come to a Ford. I'm a rain, come to a Ford. I'm a rain, come to a Ford. I'm a rain, come to a Ford. I'm a rain, come to a Ford. So Kira and Barrel have plans for date number two and seems a little soon to make date number
two orb experience.
I like to save orb experience for like the fifth or sixth date when you know the person
extra well any of time to like wash your orb really well.
You know that they're not going to say anything embarrassing to your orb.
Right.
Yeah. They aren't going to have any awkward observations about it.
Or it's a symmetry or sort of have a flared base and a flared top, don't they?
Yeah.
Yeah.
The thing to do after your orb experiences, get a piece of pie and talk about the orb.
Do you like to get popped?
Do you say get moved?
Yeah.
And the in the basement of the Bajoran temple, there's always a little bit of a potluck.
A little, just hang out and talk about the ceremony.
He's very perplexed by what he's experienced.
And he wants to unpack it with Kira.
And it's a, it's kind of, she's kind of morpheus as him, right? Like what was said was for you and you alone, like don't try and explain it or, or understand it fully.
Like it's gonna, it's gonna take time to process.
Yeah, this is the only time in the episode where Vagrant Beryl has lost his appetite.
He takes this one moment to stop shoving food in his in his maw.
Yeah.
So Vagrant Parallel goes back to his quarters and relaxes in the IKEA chair that everyone
had in the late 90s.
And Invox mirror universe Kira from around the corner.
Yeah.
Cat suit Kira, Darth Kira, is here.
They did not detect her beaming in whenever she did that.
Nope.
But yeah, they are in kuhuts and their scheme
is to steal the orb.
Yeah.
And the scheme is going well.
Right on schedule.
The scheme does go well, Enterprise.
She starts laying some smooches on him and he kind of pulls the, I have a headache.
Mm-hmm.
Thing like, yeah, let's save that for another time.
I kind of was up all night doing that with other you.
But yeah, we're going to get this over, it's going to go great.
Yeah, I mean, if she smelled Beryl's dick, then he's not gonna be in trouble, right?
Ha ha ha ha ha ha ha.
Right, yeah, smells exactly like she would hope it would smell.
Let's have a smell, all right?
Well, everyone likes their own brand, don't they?
This is magic.
There's this weird tension of like,
Mirror Universe Kira is a little bit hot
about the idea of Vagrant Barrel banging Prime Kira, but also
like it's accusatory, but encouraging accusatory.
And Vagrant Barrel is not wanting to fucking tell.
Yeah.
I think this is for all the sins of this episode, it is just a fun showcase for the
Navisitor to do a lot of different shit. And she has a ton of fun with it.
She's great. She's great at this. And later on, especially, there's a lot to talk
about in terms of her performance. I mean, this scene is bonkers because she
goes back and forth between like wanting to
fuck him, hugging him, kissing him, trying to punch him.
Yeah.
Villain monologue into him.
It's amazing.
This plan also makes a lot of sense in a, give me an evil plan that you could describe
in its entirety in one sentence.
And the idea of stealing a prime universe or bringing it back to the mere universe
and then becoming a deity for it makes a ton of sense. Yeah, he's gonna become the leader of a
Bajoran Jihad, and the orb is gonna give him the kind of credibility to do it, and she's gonna be
the power behind the throne, as it were. If he's able to successfully bring it back over there, he'd become the barile.
He would indeed.
Barile does that thing that DeMar used to do, which is when he's really turning a thing
around in his head, he goes straight to Quarks and gets hammered in his almost silent
bar.
Yeah, they, uh, there are a lot of bejorns, uh, hanging around in quirks, and there are some, some drop jaws at the presence of
this guy. And, uh, he has put on a real act drunk here, like he
is, he is really shit house. Someone needs to put a slip into
the jukebox or something. It is just shit house. Someone needs to put a slip into the jukebox or something.
It is just extremely awkward. G-S-S-E-B-O-H-O-H-O-H-O-H-O-H-O-H-O-H-O-H-O-H-O-H-O-H-O-H-O-H-O-H-O-H-O-H-O-H-O-H-O-H-O-H-O-H-O-H-O-H-O-H-O-H-O-H-O-H-O-H-O-H-O-H-O-H-O-H-O-H-O-H-O-H-O-H-O-H-O-H-O-H-O-H-O-H-O-H-O-H-O-H-O-H-O-H-O-H-O-H-O-H-O-H-O-H-O-H-O-H-O-H-O-H-O-H-O-H-O-H-O-H-O-H-O-H-O-H-O-H-O-H-O-H-O-H-O-H-O-H-O-H-O-H-O-H-O-H-O-H-O-H-O-H-O-H-O-H-O-H-O-H-O-H-O-H-O-H-O-H-O-H-O-H-O-H-O-H-O-H-O-H-O-H-H-O-H-O-H-O-H-O-H-O-H-O-H-O-H-O-H-O-H-O-H- We could make a clean up around here make a little bit of scratch. Yeah, and the pitch does not go well
because like don't bullshit a bullshit or
Mirror universe briles like don't evil scheme and I'm an M.U. Yeah
My evil scheme is much evil or a grinder of scale. Yeah, they grew up a rile kind of goes
Conversational O'Brien here in that he doesn't like how Quark or his plan makes him feel about himself
Yeah, the pitch falls on deaf ears and I know like
The utility of Quark in this scene was was pretty well well executed
I thought in the cargo bay
Quark it seems has gone directly from the bar to the cargo bay where Kira is.
Yeah.
And Chats are up about Vagrant Baryle.
He shares some unsolicited advice with her based on his experience as a bartender.
That their relationship isn't going to be all grapes and fucking.
It's going to be awkward in parts.
And he knows this because of his years of experience
Observing people he's a little different
Is it and what's going on here seems pretty pervy?
Doesn't it he's a keen observer of the human slash pejoran condition. Yeah, I thought this was a solid yeah
Like Quart can see this train right coming. Yeah
Solid yeah like Quark can see this train right coming
Yeah, the going back over memory lane with
Vedic bryall and chakar as previous boyfriends was also fun because Quark like really nails how boring they were They're last fire. I'm excited. I love that
But you know what's missing from this scene is that cure a fucking hates Quark
Yeah missing from this scene is that Kira fucking hates Quark. Yeah, the revulsion seems to have been set aside for this moment.
Right. I think this is an example of how vulnerable Kira is because I think
ordinarily she wouldn't give Quark the time of day here, but this,
this vagrant barile has made her feel away that allows it in a way that it
ordinarily wouldn't happen.
away that allows it in a way that it ordinarily wouldn't happen. Also, like the recent Dominion slash Kardashian occupation has got to have been very traumatic
for her and the temptation of just getting back into a comfortable rhythm with somebody
who passed away has got to be really powerful for a character like Kira.
Her best friend's getting married.
Everyone's paring off and she's not.
Yeah, she's really the Christian wig
to Dax's Maya Rudolph.
Yeah, that's exactly it.
That's what's going on here.
Morning, morning, morning,
Steve, sweet, morning, morning, morning.
You need to hear everybody. Morning, stop, have a time. We cut to Barrails Quarters where MU Kira has switched into Prime Kira costume.
We know that this is her because she still got the tiara in her hand and she tosses that
aside.
But from here on in, they're going to be indistinguishable from each other.
It must have been your lifelong ambition.
This was the scene built to showcase Nanaa Visitor's acting skill, right?
Yeah.
Like by putting her in the same costume and then just tweaking the performance a little
bit.
I think this has got to be an actor's, one of an actor's greatest challenges, right?
Like acting just a little bit different
from normal feels a lot like, act drunk.
Right. I found myself wondering watching this episode, does, because we talk about like
how virtuosic she is a lot. Is she the kind of person that gets this script and is really
excited for all the fun and games her character, her various characters will go through,
or it's like a worker and like, you know,
like goes like, oh man, like I'm gonna have to do a lot
in this episode.
This is like, a lot has landed on my plate
this week at the office.
I hope we get to ask her that someday.
Yeah.
I'd really like to figure that out.
I wanna chop that up with her.
That would be really cool.
We are seven minutes from the end of the episode at this point, Ben, which is bonkers, because
now is the point where we see the plan go into motion finally.
Beryl enters the temple and he hits some buttons, and Mirror Universe Kiri gets stabbed
by a guard outside the cargo bay.
She is challenged to give up the
Authorization code that all people have to use since the dominion war and this answers the questions
We've had for a long time, which is how people are freely able to wander the station without getting checked to see if they're a gold or not
And it turns out it's a verbal check
It's it's like in person one password. Yeah, and she says, I forgot how the code goes, but she's also
experiencing some discomfort in her shoulders.
She's sustained an injury in the hollow suite.
So she asked this guard for a shoulder massage, which is not
cany enough to realize would be a big problem with the Bajoran Resources
Department.
He starts providing this massage and she elbows him in the belly and then knocks him in
the noggin, knocks him out.
This guy, Scott Strocher, is the actor who plays this guard and...
He's Scott Strozer. I know. I hesitated to even say the name knowing that this would lead us down a tangent.
But this guy is like one of those guys that has a dozen Star Trek credits. He's just,
he's in a lot of episodes. He played a security officer in Star Trek
first contact. Yeah. So yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Really great. really great. He's just, if you need a shirtless guy
in your Star Trek episode,
look no further than Scott Strozier.
So she starts getting the
transporter ready for the
transdimensional transport,
beryl cracks the security field
on the box that the orb is in, but then real, uh,
prime universe, Kira catches him. She's, uh, she's played a hunch, has, has gone to the temple and,
uh, catches him red handed with that box. And boy, I thought the instant this happened, I was like,
oh, man, like she anticipated this somehow, there there's gonna be a dummy orb in that, in that zombie box.
Like, this is, they're gonna let them get away with nothing.
And that's gonna be, that's gonna be the game.
And that is not the game.
No, the actual game is far laymour than that.
Because Miracura shows up, it's the Kirk fight on Roro Pente.
Yeah, I believe I kissed you.
Mira Cura has the, has the transporter device with her and it's kind of the,
it's like, it's like the bomb trigger that Dennis Hopper has at the end of speed where
she can, she can trigger it at any time.
Yeah, a little bit of a dead man switch maybe.
Yeah. And yeah, they're gonna, they're gonna take their orb and go,
but Kira appeals to Fagrant Briles morality here.
You can't let her have the orb, it's too dangerous.
And it seems that the experience he had with the orb
actually changed him in some way.
Oh man, I really wish this worked for me.
You wish you had that much faith in the humanity, the dual entity.
I wish this moment worked for me because while I really appreciate that Kira gets to
good guy monologue him, we get an entire episode of him just kind of
tormented by what he's doing. But we don't really get, like we see him thinking
about it, but we don't really see him going through the trauma of it. Like he
never describes what the orb shows him. And so we're left to assume that maybe
that's the reason why he's got second thoughts. And we see him just sort of sadly drinking in Quark's bar thinking about it.
Like we see all of these moments of him where we were made to believe in retro spec that
maybe he's developing the sort of doubts that come together in this scene.
But I don't know if any of those separate scenes are enough to add up to what we're supposed
to believe is,
yeah.
Is what's going on here.
I feel like if we hadn't had the B storyline
of the dinner party,
we might have had more time to get under his skin.
Because like, you're right.
Like the structure of the episode is really weird.
Like when the heist is put in motion,
we have almost no time left.
Yeah.
I think he shoots Miracira at like the 42 minute mark
in a 44 minute episode.
Yeah.
And then they have to post game that a little bit
and he talks about how much fucking trouble
he's gonna be in when he and she beam back to the mirror universe, empty handed.
But, and he's like, it's for the best,
and it's like, is it for you?
Like, why don't you stay here or not beam back with her?
Or...
It's not that it's unmotivated.
It's not motivated by what we've seen during the show.
Like, Vigre Baryle talks about what he saw in the Orbs being like him and Kira with a real life in a family,
and that being the final straw, like as sort of a tease of a thing that he can never have.
But that's not true. That's not true as long as he's in this universe.
That's not true based on everything we saw in the episode up until then.
He says that eventually I find some way to ruin it, which is something we will have to take his word for, and I wish we didn't.
I mean, the primary way that he ruined his plan is by going back to the mirror universe without the orb.
Yeah. Why did he do that?
I don't know.
Hey, you want to know how you get a slap on the wrist
instead of like 20 years in an agonizer booth?
Bring the orb back with you, Vigrant Burial.
Yeah.
Yeah.
Or bring a dummy orb and be like, fuck, they tricked us.
Yeah.
Yeah.
Vigrant Burialials kind of dumb.
Well, maybe that's why he's a vagrant at him.
Do you ever consider that?
You really want to do this.
Here, now, okay, okay, let's do it, do it.
Did you consider whether or not you liked the episode?
I did.
I think that two-year point that this was kind of a nice,
a nice light episode relative to some of the
other recent episodes, but also despite its flaws way better than the average turkey
in season one or two, for example.
I think I'll take an excuse to get Kira, you know, doing all of this fun stuff.
And I think for that reason on balance, I do kind of like the episode.
Look, I agree with you about giving Nino a visitor a centerpiece app to do her thing,
but it feels like when it's mirror universe action, it's
cheap heat for her in a way that like I might have preferred a scene that fully
developed what happened between her and Odo from the last episode. Yeah. To chop it up.
But this does not dispute any of the other things you mentioned about this being fun and light and consequence-free,
which ultimately it is?
It feels like it's such an interesting thing when you have a six or seven episode arc at
the beginning of the season to then run back to the safe territory of bottle episodes
as a writers room.
No, yeah, yeah. It's like their instincts are all still serial,
and they haven't broken out of that yet.
I am totally down for something light
and inconsequential as like show to show.
And I realized that I might have been unusually hard
on this episode, but I think the one place that I'm the least forgiving
about this show and when I watch TV and movies is when a character acts against their
own stated motivations, especially in close proximity to those motivations being stated, you know,
moments ago or an episode or two ago. And what do we have here?
But Kira doing the very thing she got angry at Odo about when he was enthralled with
the change leader, right?
She goes and she falls for someone and does not have her guard up in the way that she
should.
Even though Cisco tells her to keep her guard up, even though she saw what happened
at Odo when he let his guard down, it's a convenient amnesia that makes it hard to enjoy a lighter show, like this one is
maybe meant to be enjoyed, right?
Well, put.
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We were open awesome guests and bring them down to our level.
We get stupid with Judy Greer.
My friend Molly and I call it having the space weirds.
Pat Naswalt.
Can I get a Balrog burger and some air-gorn fries?
Thank you.
And Kumail Nanjiani.
I've come back with cat toothbrushes, which is impossible to use come get
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I've got to count you in line these clouds are really freaking me out. I hate having to stand in line and boy, what do I? These giraffes do not smell good. No, they do not
and they've such short neck. But I'm hearing we need to get on this
arc. Gotta get on the arc. Yeah. It is about terrain. Gotta
spout to destroy humanity. Hey, oh, sorry, sorry, sorry. Are you Noah? Yeah, I know
we look like humans. We're actually, we're podcasters. We are podcasters. So it's
different. Have you heard of Ono Ross and Carrie?
We investigate spirituality, claims of the paranormal,
stuff like that.
And you have a boat and say the world's gonna end,
so seem like something for us to check out.
We would love to be on the boat.
We came two by two.
What do you think?
Ono Ross and Carrie, available on MaximumFun.org. Hey Adam.
Zepin.
Did you find yourself a drunk Shremota?
If you scrub your show to 13 minutes and 40 seconds, you will find one of my favorite kinds of things.
I really like watching a show like this where there's a lot of background acting.
The idea that you know there's been, you know, there's a call time for extras, you're directing them, you're giving them an
idea of what to do, and you occasionally get foreground and background actors.
And I love how alive a scene looks when you place them very specifically.
And sometimes though, an extra does something physical that doesn't make
a lot of sense in the context of the show. And this extra reading the mall map of the
promenade with her finger is such a choice. Like it's a choice that you're making in order to look like you're doing a thing
without actually being motivated by the need to do that thing. You know what I'm saying?
Like, like, oftentimes an extra is told to act, but not act too big. This mall map extra is being
told to consult the mall map in order to find a place to go. And they're just doing it in a way that serves
the physicality of what that thing would look like,
but I don't believe that that's what this looks like.
I like that.
That's a great remote.
My Shermota is one of the bejorin dudes at the bar
when Brian goes to Taiwan on this guy in the red shirt, kind of in the background, fully just like jaw-dropped, staring
at him for an extended portion of the beginning of this scene.
This guy did not get directed to not act too big.
It works.
Gotta kick these people out if they're not gonna do any drinking.
That's not true.
I know.
Yeah.
Well, what is coming up for us on the next episode
of the greatest generation, Ben?
Next episode is season six, episode nine,
statistical probabilities.
Genetically engineered savants
under Bashir's supervision predict doom
for the federation. Wow. Okay Adam
Well, I'm gonna head over to gach.bizslashgame where we keep the game of buttholes
with a little of the profits and
Currently our runabout is on
Square 35 directly between a measure of a man episode and a canar with demar episode.
And I think those are the only...
It looks like, yeah, it looks like those are the only, I think canar with demars, the only
hazard ahead that we could potentially hit.
It makes me happy to see Philip Louvois face.
Yeah, dude, same.
A lot of great faces on this game board.
You're required to learn as you play, role.
Okay, I'm gonna go ahead and roll this bad boy.
Tula!
Did I win?
Harvey.
And I rolled a three.
So next week's episode, another regular old episode.
There you go.
No canar will be consumed with Demar.
Fair enough.
I'm really looking forward to it, man.
In the meantime, I got to thank all of the friends of DeSoto,
who had to do maximumfund.org slash join and support the show
on a monthly basis, especially in times
when a lot of people are having financial difficulties imposed upon
them, the folks that continue to support are really greatly appreciated.
Boy, they sure are.
Thanks for saving us until last as the thing to cut back on.
Yeah, and you're keeping this as a free thing that lots of people can enjoy in a very challenging time.
So we really appreciate that.
We also appreciate Bill Tilly,
who makes comedy trading cards about every episode of the show.
He uses the hashtag GreatestGen over on Twitter,
where his handle is Bill Tilly 1973.
He's also got a Tumblr,
he occasionally posts those things in other places.
Adam is on Twitter at Cut for Time.
I'm on there at Benjamin A.H.R.
There's a vibrant Facebook communities
and there's a great Reddit sub
about the greatest generation.
There is a wikia that is lovingly updated
with all of the in jokes from the show.
All of that stuff is a great thing to spend an afternoon goofing off looking into.
What we're trying to say is, as you're spending time distanced from others, you don't have to be alone.
Yeah, hang out with us on the internet. It's what it's
there for. Also got to thank our buddy Adam Magusia who made a bunch of
original theme music for the show. Of course he based his work off of the
original Picard song by Dark Materia and Adam Magusia is now probably more
famous than Dark Materia even because he has a hugely successful cooking channel on YouTube.
You can check that out by just searching Adam Ragusia on YouTube.
Yes, slide into his comments. Say something nice.
Yeah.
He's putting out two videos a week, man.
He's killing it in the game.
You know what? These times are great for dabbling with the cooking at home.
Yes, step up your home cooking game.
If you're feeling reluctant, his YouTube recipes and methods
are easy and fun.
Yeah.
And with that, we'll be back again next time
with another great episode of Star Trek Deep Space Nine.
And an episode of the greatest generation, Deep Space Nine,
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