The Greatest Generation - We’re Really Luxuriating in this Maron (DS9 S2E12)

Episode Date: May 14, 2018

A doctor to whom Odo bears a striking family resemblance arrives on Deep Space Nine with a gift-wrapped mystery for his former lab animal. But when the team’s road trip to Planet Bucket unleashes a gassy banger, it’s not clear which member of the away team gets the worst side-effects. What’s the best drug to take when listening to the Melota Remix? What is motivating Sisko’s dimmer decisions? Is a female’s love interest something we can really categorize as a ‘dilemma?’ It’s the episode where we show our whole soft spot. Follow The Game of Buttholes: The Will of the Prophets!

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I'm the other guy, Adam Pryanaka. Well, I'm licking my wounds after my drubbing on the last episode, Adam. Yeah. Feeling pretty burned there? I don't know. Would you say that one of us actually came out as a victor or anything? Well, I would say that it probably doesn't feel good

to be negative, like just in general. I mean, it's easier to be negative than positive, but I think it's less rewarding ultimately. Yeah. I think it was less rewarding ultimately. Yeah. I think it was a fun experiment. I had fun. I honestly ended recording that episode feeling like, wow, that was more fun than I thought it would be.

Yeah, I kind of like bumper bowling our arguments a little bit. Yeah, and it's fun to have an excuse to go on a rant. Yeah, yeah, I like those. Yeah. It feels good and cathartic to be rantful from time to time. Yeah, like, I don't know if next season we'll rejigger the game or like change anything about

how the game works or like change out squares if we think like one was less successful or not, but I'd argue for keeping that one. Certainly I could see it looking better and functioning better. The game. We're talking about changes. But the game itself and the squares on it I think are fun. Yeah, somebody sent us a way to make the game look better and I just have been so busy.

I haven't had time to do that. Yeah, dude. I know what you mean. Busy season. Yeah. This is really like when you're a professional video person, the winter really is a thing that is not good for business. And as soon as you get into spring and summer, the phone starts ringing.

Yeah, you know, I've honestly had kind of the opposite. Oh, no. My career. Yeah, like the summer. The summer has tended to be a quiet time for me, and I usually get good work over the winter. I don't know. Everybody else says the winter sucks and the summer is great,

and I've never felt like that. Well, maybe LA will prove to be different. Maybe. Maybe I'll get out of video production entirely and focus on this podcast and game. Boy, we sure could use a full time employee band. That's for sure. I would love for that to be you. That is a very self-serving thing to say. Do you wanna do like a card bit or something? Do you wanna do anything with this Marin or we're just gonna sit here and talk about our jobs? Yeah, I don't think anyone wants to hear about job talk. One thing we haven't done in a long, long time,

I feel like is do a card bit, but we have a couple of card bits available to us. We have the competitive card game, the card war. And then we also have these new Star Trek Deep Space 9 cards, Ben. Do you have a preference? Honestly, like having lost so badly last time, I kind of want to victory. I want to feel victory. And so I kind of want to victory. I want to feel victory. And so I kind

of want to go for war. Alright, I agree. Let's do it. Where more? There's been no formal declaration of war. And this trick you'll bring us some luck. That nonsense is centuries behind us. War! On the war!

I have a stack of turned up cards here, Ben, but I don't remember On the walk! I have a stack of turned up cards here, Ben, but I don't remember who is in the lead. This is pretty fucking typical scorekeeping by us. Like, we come up with an idea, we go so far as to like, gamify it, and then we don't keep track. Yeah, the board game, we are at a 0-4-10 on having the game piece on the right square on the Monday that the episode comes out. Yeah, I mean we're like so many brilliant minds, Ben. We're good at the first part, but not the implementation. Yeah, the follow-through. That's where we fail. Yeah. Are you ready to flip your first card? I was born ready, baby.

Three, two, one. Then I have hype six shuttlecraft. It's a it's a Previa. It's the updated Previa, I should say. Modern Federation shuttle with warp capability may be armed for special missions. Ben, we never got an armed version of a shuttlecraft on TNG It's interesting like I mean like almost all other sci-fi Franchises if they have a big ship with little ships that come out of it their fighters and TNG they're just

Vans you often get this with the toy version of the show like like things get weapon it, they're fighters and TNG, they're just vans. You often get this with the toy version of the show, like, like, things get weapons that they never got on the ship. Yeah, the Previa shoots like missiles out of the naysells or something. Yeah, our card daddy sent us one of these shuttles and it said on the box that it was it was armed as a little ship. I should say our card daddy's built tilly. Our card daddy built tilly sent us one of these models. Well my card is for Tomic who I'm sure you'll remember as an engineer recreation of a male Romulan alien entity assumed this body in 2369.

Oh, this is the little boy that was friends with Ryker in the cave, right? Is it? I think so. Yeah, like he, he was like a little gray alien that lived in a cave and had enough hollow technology to convince Riker he was taken prisoner by Romulans. You know what I'm getting here. I just flip through the cards that I've

opened already. A lot of tea names for Romulans, yeah. Yeah, and a lot of S names for Vulcans. It's a bit of a thing. Yeah, and a lot of S names for Vulcans. Yeah, it's a bit of a thing It is Well, Tomac has an integrity of four a cunning of seven in a strength of six Yeah, but what's his range though? Yeah, does he have warp capabilities? Fuck. I don't know. I feel like range of six might have him beat I guess Tomac is gonna

I don't know, I feel like range of six might have him beat. I guess Tomek is gonna lose this round. I think Tomek's getting bombarded from orbit, from this type six shuttlecraft. You wanna go again? Yeah, let's flip him over. Three, two, one. I have Torin, a Klingon science officer trained in the field of science, studied the effects of war propulsion on subspace, with an integrity of seven, a cunning of six, and a strength of six.

Ben, unfortunately, you are going to be defeated again. Damn it, what? For I have Riva. Ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha! Ginger Jesus himself. Uh, he has integrity of six cunning of eight. And a strength of three. Uh, one interesting note about this man, the man who plays him. His name is, uh, let's see, his howey seago.

And this guy's gonna be in town in Seattle. He's doing a deaf version of Mid-Summer Night's Dream. Oh, I read something about this. Yeah, he's a... At the 12th Avenue, uh, theater. Yeah, that's pretty cool. So this guy's still like... It's supposed to be like something that you can watch and enjoy, whether or not you are able to hear, right? Right, right. This guy evidently has not lived down this role,

because it basically is the first paragraph of the story about this new theater production. So, good job, but how we see go. A guy who played a character with a dick valet over 30 years ago. Please, any one in Seattle who goes to this show, do not mention the dick valet to Howie Seigo, okay? No, that would be, that would be very uncool. That would make you an enemy of DeSoto. Uh, two to nothing Ben. Well, I, so I gotta argue the point a little bit though because I think numerically it

sounds like my guy wins. I don't disagree that, I mean you could point to the scoreboard and go and like I would accept that. Yeah. But I think, I don't know, sometimes, of wins and losses. All right, best of five. We'll do best of five. Ha ha ha ha.

Ha ha ha. Three, with E.U. out to a commanding lead. Three, two, one. I have a dilemma. And there's a classically weird Star Trek thing. The dilemma is female's love interest. And it says a female away team member, random selection, runs off with lover to furthest planet where she remains. Can be rescued later, discard dilemma. And it is the genetically engineered leader once romantically involved with the Anatroya. I guess this is that planet

with the, you know, perfectly engineered society with Ron Canada. You could forget Ron Canada. No, can't forget Ron Canada and we can't forget that Ron Canada has his own drop. He's like one of the minorst characters to have his own drop. I love that we have, we have like above the title characters who have gone dropless for years. And we, we give Ron Canada, master, master of only a handful of eps. That's how much we love Ron Canada. Ron Canada carried that episode made that episode memorable. Yeah, one of the greats.

What's your card? You know, you're gonna love going up against event gaps in normal space. The picture depicting... Gap though. Yeah, mind the gap bin. The picture depicting these gaps is that woman who sunk through the floor in that enterprise hallway. Pockets of space such as those in the Maroscura Nebula dangerously phase out when coming in contact with a ship. You place this card between two other mission cards and it creates a gap with a span of four bin. Ship stopping on the gap kill one

person L and it's a random selection. This is a real like Russian roulette in space situation. Well, what do you think Adam? Which wins? Russian roulette in space or a guy who is friends with Ron Canada. I think, uh... And probably banged Troy. Nearness to Ron Canada wins to me. And so I say the score now is 2-1. Okay. We flip them over again.

3, 2, 1. Oh, you done it now, Ben. I have the feclar card I strength of 15. I don't think we see a strength a strength score that high cunning of one though. I mean I Guess I I guess I see that he's not gonna be very cunning is not is not about tricking people He's just about it's just about terrifying people a feclar leaves like a trail of snot behind him wherever he goes not the most cunning surprisingly an integrity of six oh yeah feclar is a man of his word feclar you you get what you get with feclar and I think that's why you got

to respect him well Adam you are not felar. I think I might have this one. Shut up. My second card this game, also a friend of Ron Canada. I got Hannah Bates, genetically engineered scientists from Moab for granted asylum aboard USS Enterprise in 2368 with an integrity of six a cunning of eight In the strength of two I Cannot believe I'm losing this game to the friends of Canada This is so irritating feclar should be unbeatable strength of 15

Yeah except for not friends with Ron Canada. Except I can see my own rule has fucked me, Ben. Nearness to Ron Canada has defeated me twice in a row. Yeah, and also we got to use that Ron Canada drop a couple more times. If you pull Ron Canada as your third card, I'm never going to play this game again. Oh,, the stakes is high Adam. Let's flip him over Three two one. I did not flip over

Did not flip over Ron Canada Adam and My card here is an event. It is a space stock It's that kind of crab type of space stock and it's got a Dilsol class starship in its grips. Mm-hmm. Please on outpost Instantly repairs your damaged ships if they stop here also repairs non-aligned ships. That sounds Like a card that's hard to beat because it's such a big thing But I've got something bigger, Ben. God damn it.

It is the entire federation. My card is federation. Earth is a member of the United Federation of Planets and the federation establishes outposts throughout its territory. Oh boy. Seed one if playing federation or build later at any location where a Federation engineer is present. So this is an outpost card. So I guess it's not the entire Federation, it's a Federation outpost.

Shields of 30 it says. So I guess the decision we have to make here is if an outpost outpoints the the crab claw dry duck situation. Yeah, that's weird. So it's like I guess in the actual way to play this game this would be a way to like have a have a planet that you can land on. Yeah it looks like it because the picture is is Federation headquarters. Right hmm.. I don't know, Adam. I feel like this is kind of a draw, and we need to get another card out to determine an actual winner.

If it's too close to call, I say we draw again. Okay. Three, two, one. Oh man. I have a Fleet Admiral Shanti. Fleet Admiral Shanti authorized the blockade of Romulan forces covertly supporting the Clion Civil War in 20368 with an integrity of nine, a cunning of six, and a strength of four. Fleet Admiral Shanti is great. She's got

real like CCH pounder vibes. I love her. She's got a ton of gravitas. And one of the great admirals most most admirals are pieces of crap. Yeah, she's not giving... she's not roundhouse kicking anybody in their quarters. She's got a ton of gravitas. And one of the great admirals, most admirals are pieces of crap. Yeah, she's not giving, she's not roundhouse kicking anybody in their quarters. She's not tossing anybody through a glass table. She's not getting invited over for tea and then not drinking that tea. Mm-hmm. She has no, she has no nubbin. Ben, I have a, uh,

Vecor. Uh, she is the lady who was on the lady who was on that crabby ship. Remember when Picard had to go undercover as an archaeologist? Yeah. And they were looking for that Vulcan weapon? Yeah, and there was like a tail shear or not tail shear. But there was like Vulcan secret service lady in there, right? Yeah, but when Picard was known as Beran,

they were trying to find that stone. She's representative of female mercenaries operating throughout the galaxy. Integrity two cunning seven strength six. Well, it feels good to win something at him. Ha ha ha. Fair enough, Ben. Nicely done.

Congratulations on your victory. Canada aided victory. It should be known. Canada aided, Canada abetted. Canada, one of the great allies. Yeah. Gotta get me that Canada. I wonder if if Ron Canada doesn't have a card

in the collectible card game. That's just a real travesty. Yeah. Yeah. Should we, boy, our marines have really just gotten so extravagantly long. We're really luxuriating in this marin. Every time I hear a real podcast professional talk

about podcast structure, there are a lot of podcasts fall into this trap of just talking about nothing for the first 10 or 20 minutes and it really turns off new listeners. We're doing this at the new listener. We don't have any new listeners been. No one's gonna dial up as their very first episode. Season 2, episode 12, the alternate.

Quark is running a little scammerunio as he is want to do. Here on Deep Space 9 he's selling hockey pucks with buddy parts of a guy who isn't even dead. A small piece of the man that brought holographic entertainment to the most remote parts of the quadrant. This is one of a couple of times that we've already seen the sale and distribution of the cramines of the Ferengi. And unlike the last time we saw this depicted, you get a nice storage case.

If you look into these pucks. Little sales pitch from Quark and there's some interested, they look like the frangie that worked for him, right? Yeah. So do they just pay him back in Quark's bar script? It's impossible to know and they don't tell us. Yeah, they don't. And it is not

long into this pitch before Quark draws the attention of Constable Oda, who is playing it actually being interested in purchasing one of these pucks initially. Sort of like, darkly mentions his interest of making a display case full of dead-faringi, and up to and including like a place of honor for Quark. Yeah, when Quark goes, Odo wants to be the first person to get his hands on the puck. In any other context, with any other two characters, I think that would be deeply upsetting. That would be like a reportable threat to Quark's life, right? Like, you could take that to the authoritize. But Odo is the authoritize.

The thing that I'm feeling after experiencing the scene is that like they're the type of friends that go hard at each other with jokes. Like they use cut downs as a friend making tool. Yeah, it's kind of like how the text message thread between you, me, and John Roderick, every three or four weeks, somebody will check in and go like, are we really fighting? Are we still just dunking on each other? Yeah. Yeah, we really take some bats to each other and that techs thread.

It's good stuff. It's, uh, boy, if some of that stuff ever got out, we've done work finding where each other's soft spots are, you know, you don't want that becoming public knowledge. Definitely do not let those soft spots to get out been. No. I don't want to show anyone my whole soft spot. No, yeah.

Yeah, you keep that soft spot to yourself. So, yeah, it turns out that this for Ange Plague, whose pucks quirk is attempting to move, rumors of his death have been exaggerated. And... Personally, I'm very excited for this thread to be paid off. Right. Quark actually pretty deftly plays the like, oh well I bothered in good faith.

I didn't know I was receiving undead property. And the question of like, who's body this actually is is also like a fun thing to speculate on. Yeah, yeah, you wanna know. It's like, you know, going to a sushi restaurant and thinking you're getting, you know, tuna and it's really some other cheaper kind of fish. Like if you genetically sampled the meat inside these hockey pucks, what would the result

be? I demand investigation. You'll get one. I promise you. You would seem that Quark has this ability. He just chooses not to use his due diligence to confirm the identity of the Cremains. Right. diligence to confirm the identity of the Creméans. Right, which is, you know, in court, like that would be a significant factor, like that he didn't in fact inspect the site before he built his hotel or whatever.

Bursting onto the scene as a stranger that we don't know yet, but we come to know his doctor, Morra Paul. And there's a familiarity that he has with Odo right away. A familiarity in that they have the same haircut. Yeah. And complexion, even. Yeah, it's weird. Odo makes a big show in this episode of being perturbed by,

I feel like I'd best perturbed by the presence of Moripal and we're at worst like actively hating him. And yet he's designed his whole look after Moripal. I mean, I'm on team Odo here throughout. Like, the doctor does that thing to him the entire episode of like overly praising him. Like Odo do you did such a great job talking to that person back there? Almost like a normal person. Your ears are really coming along. I mean, you're not nailing them, but they're tricky, you know? They'd be a challenge for anybody.

Yeah. Yeah, not fun. This guy, this guy's played by James Sloyen, Ben, and his voice is a dead giveaway for how we should know him. Are you familiar with his work? He was the, he was the Romulan ambassador that defected, right? He was. Yeah.

Admiral, not ambassador. And he played Time Travel in Alexander Rochenko in firstborn. No shit. Yeah, so he's kind of a star trek that guy. He's got a great voice. He almost has a Robert Loegger voice, and I think I mentioned that when we watched the defector. It's really great.

He's great. He's got, I mean, like this is not a melancholy character for a lot of this episode, but there's a melancholy in his voice that I think kind of gets paid off toward the end. It was that melancholy that reminded me of his portrayal of the Romulan admiral, who reminisces about Romulus and how he'll never see his family and never see his home ever again Well That like profound sadness that he really brought to that character I think is a real talent of this guys. I really think he's great and he seems to get like a lot of multi-part Star Trek actors. I mean they have varying degrees of character quality that they're given

Yeah, but this guy gets a lot of toothsome roles and he's a great job with them He'll play on his juicy Star Trek. Yeah his character here Dr. Paul asks Questions of Odo that feel very much like the questions that we've been asking from the start. And I really like this. He just launches in with like, so is your uniform you or something? And so like, are you wearing boots or not? Like, he has just great pedantic questions.

Yeah. It's like you're going around barefoot and yet you aren't going around barefoot. Yeah, like, like, how do you wash yourself? Like, where do you sleep? Like, all of the questions that we've had from the start are great. And unfortunately, Odo, Odo chooses not to answer most of them, or if he does, he gives like the briefest possible answer to them. Not satisfying. He sort of blows this guy off. Yeah, a little unsatisfying. He's basically ready to like to say like, well, thanks for coming, but I've no interested in spending any more time with you. And then he is drawn in because

Moripul is there for reasons, Adam. This starts a relationship between them that is as much physical as it is dialogue-based. I think Renee Abers-Gin-Wah does awesome physical acting in this. Adam, I believe it's pronounced Queso. He does great physical acting here because he, like, especially with his head and his posture. At any other time, in any other episode, he walks upright and somewhat confident and with like a real motivation. But in this episode, he's deferential and embarrassed. He rolls his shoulders forward to kind of close off the front of his body.

Yeah, and I really like the choices that he makes as an actor here. They're good. They are good. I've made all of these body movements in my day. Right. Even last week. Even that time we stood in your office and looked at each other during, was doing all of these things.

Hard to do them when you're sitting down, but when you're standing up, you can really throw yourself into the role. Yeah, my not giving you a chair for that recording session was really a gift. I'm glad you came around to recognize me. It was weird that you went into the garage to see if a chair you thought you might have thrown away was still there But I guess that was all part of the charade We cut to Casa de Cisco, where Jake and his father are talking about the quality and not the quantity of a homework assignment that Jake has done. The clean-out opera-based assignment, and Jake wants to done. It's a clean on opera based assignment and

Jake wants to go out and party, but his dad is just not feeling that. I'm an ace of test dad. I promise. This isn't about test Jake. This is about learning. Yeah. Clean on opera is to 24th century students. What algebra is to 21st century students? It's like, when am I ever going to use this dad? How many remixes of Meloda do you think there are? Hahaha. Yeah, I love the dubstep remix of it. Yeah. Because when the bass drops, it's fucking dope.

That fucking Meloda drop. Epic. Oh man, if you can line it up so that you're peeking on your gummy edibles. When that drops, you can have a fun night. One thing I wanted to talk about was the way Cisco keeps his apartment lit. Like, we've seen a bunch of... Even lit, like cool, and like, like going off. Yeah, it's fucking happening in there man. It's lit It's a fucking party

Are you saying are you trying to say Cisco's apartment is all that? Yeah and a bag of chips at him a bag of chips We've seen other people's apartments on this show and they can be apartments on this show and they can be lit in a way that is normal. Cisco keeps his spot like super, super loungy vibe, you know? Like, it kind of made me think like after that episode with the Ghost Babe, is he getting into like being kind of more of a swing in bachelor? Is this a third date location kind of design choice? He's making dimmer decisions, that's for sure. Like on the light switch dimmer,

he's maybe rolling that up a quarter of the distance. Yeah. And that's a good setting. You keep your dimmer on the quarter. Yeah. That's a nice atmosphere. Especially keep your dimmer on the quarter. Yeah. That's a nice atmosphere. Especially if you're a swing in Bachelor. Jake, Jake knew that his dad was, uh, was ready to get back into the game when he put reostats in all the rooms. I did not flip a coin to be, uh, positive this app,

but I'm going to give a special commendation to Avery Brooks in the scene because he is hyper expressive and Emoting like hell with Jake like all the scene is on paper is Convincing your son that he should study harder right but Avery Brooks goes a thousand percent He goes 11 out of 10 with making the case to Jake here. And I thought it was awesome. Every Brooks is not in this episode very much, but he fucking smashes this scene. He's like reminding the producers why they hired him.

Yeah. Agreed. And he's not cartoonish either. Like he is, I shouldn't say 11 out of 10 because that's not right, but he's like 10 out of 10, all you want and nothing more. He does, I mean, it's also like, there's a subtlety in having this conversation with your son where you know why, like to you, the logic of studying for the test in a real way is very clear, but that's like impossible to express in a way that a teen is gonna digest and understand deeply. And both characters really sell that,

you know? Like, you really see it from both of their perspectives. And it's like, it's kind of a throw away. I mean, it's like as much of a we're never going to find out about the guy in the hockey puck's issue. Yeah, he's just going to say that like another thread cast out into the world. Yes, but yeah, is this the is this the e-story line or nothing, you know, but, but it is a Nothing, you know, but it is, it's a great little, you know, this is how a father and son kind of interact sometimes. Ideally, yeah. Yeah, I mean, this episode is very much about its A story. The A story being that Dr. Mora believes that he's found Planet Bucket.

And he would like to take Odo there, and he'd like a runabout to do it. Yeah, so I guess Odo puts in the request and you know he's saying that this is like something that pejoran science probes picked out. They look through the telescope and it's just like a home depot orange bucket. Dr. Mora thinks he may have discovered the origin of my people. Yeah, well, it's that and then, you know, traces of Odo like DNA. So that's pretty exciting because they could, like, it's a pretty funny smash cut too because Odo is like rolling this out and it just

smash cuts to wormhole opening, run about coming through. Yeah, the way that they choose where to be efficient and where not to be in the story is great. Yeah, what did Cisco decide? Oh, pretty clear. David Carson directed this app, speaking of pacing and direction direction and this is the last episode of Trek He did before doing generations. So he's that guy.

He probably had his mind on something else as he was directing this episodes. They head to this planet and it's like they got all gang together. They've got They've got a doctor Dr. Weld Got Dr. Weld they've got Dr. Mora they've got Odo and they've got Dex the local science expert and so They're gonna they're gonna beam down to this planet and Do you have a bad feeling about Dr. Weld? I have bad feeling about him from the start.

He's always in frame and he's not doing anything. There's one scene where he's in frame and he sort of regards the doctor, but he makes no facial expression or not at all. He's just listening. It's weird because like any other episode of Trek, a character like this would be a total red shirt. Like he's there to be killed when they beam down to the planet.

And that doesn't really happen for him. But one thing I thought about was like this should be a much bigger expedition than four people in a in a win-a-bego, you know, like this should be like a holy shit, like what is this planet? Let's send a starship and a bunch of scientists and stay there for months and study the shit out of it. And instead it is like, hey can we borrow a truck and go look into this? That'd be great. Thanks.

Yeah, the scope of the response is a little strange. And to me, the head cannon was maybe this doctor isn't super respected. Like maybe he's a little bit of a quack. And just because he says planet buckets out there, maybe his word isn't enough to get the resources necessary if it actually were. So, Dr. Well is just one of his weird, sick, offantic hangers on. Yeah. Yeah, I mean, he's a different brand of doctor than we normally get on this show.

That's for sure. Yeah, usually these guys, these older, scientists guys always have a young wife, right? Right, yeah. Instead, it's expressionless Dr. Weld. So they peep down and they're in like these ruins, and this is actually like a pretty, like kind of a step up for outdoor sets in Trek, I would say, like the backdrop. Cause like the backdrop. Yeah, it's very tall

and the backdrop is actually kind of believable as the mountains, like the misty mountains in the distance. Yeah. And they are walking around, they're in ruins and they find a kind of an obelisk in the middle of the ruins that they speculate must have been important for some reason and they decide oh well We'll just we'll steal this artifact And take it back back home with us because it's obviously important. This is This is the first of a couple of what I feel like are fairly direct Callbacks to Raiders of the Lost Ark Then when you beam an object off of a planet,

I think you need to replace it with a bag of sand of commensurate weight. And that was their fatal flaw here, because as soon as they beam this thing off, bangers get dropped on them in a big time way. And poor Dr. Weld is the first to fall. So was the planet reacting badly to having its monument stolen?

Is that your belief? I absolutely believe that, yeah. And I think it's so dumb that they didn't replace it. It seems like causation. Oh, fuck, put it back, put it back. It felt like causation versus correlation easily. Well, yeah, and it was like weird and uncommented on. Yeah.

They didn't go like, whoa, the planet didn't like that. They didn't, like nobody said anything. So I was like, oh, did they say something on their way about the planet being unstay, like, because there is something about how he doesn't want to wait six weeks to get permission from the Bajurian government. That's why he's calling in a favor to Cisco.

But like the timeline being tight would have made this make more sense, I think. Right, right, right. They beam down like they just want to get a sense of the place because they know this planet is scheduled to come apart in space because of some, you know, tectonic thing that is happening on it.

Right, right. So I don't know if that's like one of those things that got like taken out in a script draft and they're just like, well, I guess we forgot to get that part when we shot. Oh well. Yeah, it's a little bit of a whole, I think what helps this scene is that they're thrown

into such an emergency so quickly and it's life-threatening so fast that you're triaging the life-threatening problem instead of the other problem. Like, because the planet in addition to the bangers it's dropping has released a gas and that is taken everyone down except for Odo.

Yeah. And the other, before this gas comes out, they collect a sample of kind of like whatever a potted plant is to me, this thing is to Odo. It's a some kind of matter that moves around and is Odo like, but not another shape shifter. Odo reads as more liquid to me than this stuff. This stuff read to me as like the woolly, woolly game. Like where you take the filings and the magnet and you draw the mustache or the hair.

Well, that's definitely how they got the effect, but the, you know, in universe, it's supposed to be very similar. But so like they've beamed up this monument and the planet's pissed and gas is coming out of the ground. And I guess the runabout needs a while to reset its transporter system from beaming up the monument. So they actually all get exposed to this gas.

And Odo does not seem to be as badly affected by it as the firdabritz in the group. Right. Odo saves the day though. He saves the day and we wake up in the infirmary where Bashir has put like oxygen masks on everybody and, you know, he scans Odo and he's like, yeah, you seem fine. But they're, you know, they've got some some bad shit in their lungs and it's gonna be a little while before they recover. They get the filings into a lab though and they've started doing an examination on those.

Yeah, they put the examination in the capable hands of noted genius of science, Miles O'Brien. I am Chief Miles Edward O'Brien. This is fucking spectacular. He's the best of what's left. In terms of science doers at this point. Brian like he scanned this monument there's symbols all over it but the computer can't make heads or tails of it and he's like turned over like a popcorn bowl over top of the sample which has expanded in size somewhat and he's like yeah like this thing is really nuts about dividing. And it keeps kind of changing what it is.

It's metamorphosing. So, you know, what it scans as is different from one moment to the next. Somehow it goes through a metamorphosis every time it reproduces, and it reproduces like crazy. A lot like that one alien race was speaking in a different language, and the computer couldn't quite resolve it.

The computer can't resolve with this, with this being is either because it keeps changing so quickly. Which is the first thing that is planted that will actually factor in later on. Yeah. I mean, we got to pay off something at some point, you guys. That's the rules. Lead writer walks into the room with like 14 balls of yarn and just like unspools them in the middle of the table and it's like fix it and then leaves. This. This is what the next episode looks like. The next day, there's been a gooey jailbreak bin because this thing has gotten out of the popcorn bowl and appears to have left through a air vent as any escapee would.

And there's sort of a manhunt for this thing. There's like the scene where Cisco is like a sleep and bed and he gets a phone call that he needs to go down to the lab to see the scene of the crime or whatever. And this scene made me really wonder what it would look like if Odo got a call while he was sleeping. Does he get all the way out of the bucket or just like Odo head and Odo arm come out of the bucket and go like, hello! Oh, no speaking. Is the bucket on top of a bed? I prefer a Casper mattress, it's a combination of latex foam and memory foam. He watches that commercial of like the bowling ball in the glass of wine and he's like,

no one's gonna spill my buckets. If I get a gasp or mattress. Even if I have a lady friend over, this bucket's not tipping. Yeah, more Odo, please. So, yeah, this cram scene has another weird thing where DAX shows up to like help look around and Cisco's like, are you supposed to be up because like last we saw you were unconscious in bed with a gas mask on because of bad stuff you inhaled on an alien planet. She's like yeah well Dr. Bashir didn't want me to leave. He hid my clothes so I couldn't get away.

That's not I think that's season one Bashir right there. Yeah like season one Bash Bashir right there. Yeah, like, season one, Bashir is making a little cameo in this episode. That's not great. Not good. But also, like, Dax is acting super weird, and I was like, Oh, they brought back this shape shifter, and it has taken the form of Dax, and she's gonna be evil now. Yeah.

Like, they definitely did, do you think there was an intentional headfainter? Is that me like trying to apply Star Trek logic to a weird episode that doesn't have much in it? No, I feel like there was something going on there too and it might have been a versioning issue with the story where this might have been paid off in a different version that we got. They shot these scenes from the blue version of the script, but then they were onto the golden rod version.

Yeah. By the time they finished. Yeah. This material that they brought back is missing. Ed O'Brien's got to crawl around in the Jeffrey's tubes, looking for it. He winds up finding some goo, which he... He brings a black light to the Jeffries tube. Hahaha.

This is fucking incredible. This is fucking disgusting. Yeah, he really should be wearing gloves. Uh, for reasons that we'll be paid off later. Miles, use a gym sock. Yeah, gross. You run into my wife, don't mention I did this. Oh, Brian finds the goo and posits that it might be the thing and the thing might be dead.

Except there isn't a life form anymore, it's dead. You very rarely get practical goo in Star Trek and specifically in Space Nine. It was really fun to see this. Yeah, but I think it might have been a little bit of a mistake because they do so much with digital goo in this episode that is so bad, that like seeing real goo kind of breaks the spell of that a little bit.

There are armistile special effects to this goo that I thought were buried in the past. Yeah. Unfortunately, you're back in a big, big way. It's weird and unfortunate. This goo starts attacking. Like, Bashir is like pulling on all nighter when when, you know, and they, I think there were at least self-aware enough about how bad this effect was that they did all of the attacks in very dark rooms, so it could just be mainly kind of a black blob moving around.

Yeah. But yeah, so but sheer pulling an all-nighter and the blob comes in and Bashir manages to scare it away with a laser pen. There's a continuity thing here that it would have been so easy to do that they chose not to. Bashir is choked by a tentacle and then thrown across a room by his neck. Yeah, I was jamming off to it. He is totally. Some of the hottest hen tie I've ever seen. He's totally unbrews.

Like, why don't you throw a little bruise make up on there? Yeah, beat the doctor up for once. Yeah. Yeah. I guess I wanted to see some pain visited upon him after that. After that, hide that hide the close trick. Totally unprofessional thing he did to his colleague.

He should be censured for that. I'm going to write a letter to Starfleet Medical, I think. Run on a pretty loose ship there, Cisco. But so like this investigation is going and Odo's daddy is kind of back up on his feet and they're starting to get along a little bit better. Like the, you know, Odo has been really resisting the comparison of Dr. Mora to being a father figure to him, but it is, I mean, but that's like his stated resistance. Like in practice, Dr. Mora is a father figure for Odo,

and Odo has father figure issues. I think it's easy to have father figure issues when your father acts like this, though. Like how much of this is on Odo, and how much of this is on Dr. Paul? No, I totally agree. I mean, he's very like self centered and kind of doesn't really care about what's good for Odo.

He's very condescending. And yet like here toward the back half of the episode, they're starting to get along a little bit more. And like more is like, oh yeah, you know, like I was thinking that your job is not terribly unlike my job, like doing an investigation is a lot like the scientific method. The conflict that comes to a head, I think, has served well by these scenes, because as you see them growing closer, there's a moment that comes not long after where Mora confronts

Odo about his theory that the monster that Bashir fought was in fact Odo himself. Yeah. And when you have that kind of argument so soon after a reconciliation, it came really out of nowhere for me. It was very surprising to hear this theory postulated. And then to have it have the effect that it does on Odo, which is to like, it was almost like when they started yelling at the slime and, which is to, like, it was almost like when they started yelling at the slime and Ghostbusters too, like, his volume gets louder, his arguments

become more pronounced, Paul, like, sort of leans into Odo and like, whithers him verbally, and it starts to make an Odo sweat and turn red, and he turns into the goo monster that he's been accused of being. Yes, and it's really intense. There's war-flatting on the panel he's touching, and it becomes clear that there's a kind of jack-o-on-hide situation happening with Odo. There's a second evil thing at work within him that he is unaware of and not in control of.

It sort of happens off-screen, but the doctor flees and Odo is on the loose. Odo as Goumonster is on the loose. And so it's up to those and Ops to come up with a way to triage the situation. Because obviously this is a very dangerous situation. So they evacuate the promenade. Yeah, they evacuate the promenade and they basically set up like a sting where they use Dr. Mora as the bait

because he's figured out that every time the monster attacks it's something M more adjacent that's going on. So they trap the super bad CGI goo monster in a force field. And there's this moment of recognition in Morra where he realizes that like imprisoning Odo against his will is a thing that he's done more than once. Dear God, what if I don't? Born, born, long, steed, sweet, Born, born, long, steed, dear, but he's not stopped.

Hammer time. The complexity of what's happening to Dr. Paul is really interesting to me. Like, he wants to be closer to both the experiment that gave his professional life meaning. He wants to feel near to someone that he feels as sort of a child to him. He feels entitled to Odo's allegiance and partnership in a weird way,

and that's like the negative part of his personality that I don't like so much. But then there's also like the guilt of confronting the entrapment of Odo that he sees basically face to face. The thing that doesn't make sense to me at all. And I rewatched the scene a couple of times been, is like, so Goo Monster version Odo

is trapped between like sandwich between two force fields. Why does Cisco drop the containment field? At no point did it seem like the monster was going to become less monstrous. Yeah, it seems like a weird, like maybe a miscommunication between the effects department and the director or something, because yeah. Like the doctor is still right there, like right next to him. I thought as soon as the shield came down, he was going to eat him.

Right, or like, yeah, because what happens is like, oh, so they could have just done that for like one second and it would have done the same thing. Like, I don't get it. Yeah, I don't either. I mean, what happens is they drop the containment field. The humanoid version of Odo falls into slumps into the doctor's arms. And the doctor and Odo in a scene in Six Bay later, like they do a scan on Odo,

they're able to remove the organism from him. Right. And more convenient, like, hey, we solved the problem. That happened so fast, real story whip last year. But they had to do it fast because we need to have the scene of the detent between Mora and Odo in which they arrive at not even an uneasy friendship, but like an actual friendship, a professional friendship,

even where Mora promises to return one day. Yeah, and be a presence in Odo's life in a way that isn't the entitled asshole that he's been up to this point. In a way that Odo welcomes, which is I think the important part, like it really matters far less what Paul wants and it matters far more what Odo is into and Odo seems amenable to this. Yeah. Did you like the episode though, Ben?

I kind of did, yeah. I feel like I vaguely remembered this one and vaguely didn't like it from before. So I was kind of surprised to find myself drawn into it and enjoying it. I mean, it is a very interesting conflict between these characters. And it really dimensionizes Odo in an interesting way. Like his character, like when I look at that hair now and I think of the fact that he modeled it off this

scientist that he became aware of himself in the presence of, it's so interesting. They thought about having Renee Abershanwad play that role to like to do the Doctor's Zoom thing. Oh wow. And they decided ultimately that the Odo makeup was so time-consuming that it would have doubled the production time to make the app and they just got schedule boxed in. They could do it.

But I'm glad they cast James Slyan because like he was a strength of the app. Totally. And it's a little cute like to do the Zoom thing all over again. James Slyon because like he was a strength of the app. Totally. And it's a little cute like to do the Zoom thing all over again, to reheat the Zoom I think is a- Yeah, you don't wanna- I warned you over Zoom. Yeah, I like the episode do.

I think it's interesting, like it's easier for me to think of the episode in comparison to the things that it bites. Like, there's totally like Dr. Poll opens the arc at Odo in his office and like Meltzum and that was one. That was like the second Indiana Jones thing. And they also did not learn the lessons from the Alien movie, which is like scary equals not showing the alien or the threat. And I think what happened here is they just showed too much of the threat in a way that that kneecapped a lot of the tension.

So I think I would have preferred less of that, but a phonics experiment, and it's always enjoyable for me to know more about Oto's history and where it came from. Well, I want to see if we have any priority on one messages at this point in the show Adam. Let's get to it. Priority one message from Starfleet coming in on Secured Channel. Need a supplement on that. A supplement on that? A supplement.

Yes, extra. The interest alone could be enough to buy this ship. Adam, we have a couple of priority one messages here and our first one is from Yeah, it's extra. But the interest alone could be enough to buy this ship! Adam, we have a couple of priority one messages here and our first one is from your favorite Whittle Sister. And it is too, my dearest big brother. Goes like this. Happy birthday, bro, and thanks for introducing me to this great pod.

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Unaware that their hosts intend to sacrifice them as a part of the peace process. Lee! I'm predicting an episode where we use a lot of deaf leopards Armageddon it. The Netflix description is only until we would get that reference. Yeah, I don't. Next stew from the flat house had a deaf leopard podcast for a while. It still does. Okay.

You have my attention. The Netflix description is, Bashirin O'Brien, travel to a lab orbiting Talani 3 in an effort to eliminate the harvesters, a deadly biomechanical weapon. The harvesters. Yeah. Oh, that sounds exciting. Yeah.

I like a scary weapon. Yeah. Give me a scary weapon. Yeah. Give me more scary weapons. I mean, in this distant future, it seems like there would be more Doomsday devices. Right. Yeah, it'd be hard to stop people from developing them. Yeah.

Well, we have that coming up. We need to figure out how we're going to watch it. Yeah, we should do Adam. Let me pull open the Game of Buttholes, the will that coming up. We need to figure out how we're gonna watch it. Yeah, we should do Adam. Let me pull open the Game of Buttholes, the will of the prophets. And once you do, you'll find we're on Square 35, Ben. We could potentially get ourselves into trouble here if we roll one. You're required to learn as you play. Roll. Oh man, I've rolled a six.

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