The Greatest Generation - You Do Not Want to Be Laughing at the Loaf (VOY S6E26)

Episode Date: November 13, 2023

When Seven starts visiting a garden center in her dreams, the people are familiar and they’re asking for her help. But when the Borgs Queen goes medieval to try to shut down Unimatrix Zero, Captain ...Janeway plans a dangerous away mission to the Borgs’ coolest cube. What percentage of the ship is available for sexual dalliances with Harry Kim? Why were there so many civilians at Wolf 359? Did Axum do anything wrong? It’s the episode that’s only giving you half of a reason to tune in at any given moment.Support the production of The Greatest Generation.Friends of DeSoto for Democracy.Friends of DeSoto for Justice. Friends of DeSoto for Labor.Follow The Game of Buttholes: The Will of the Caretaker!Music by Adam Ragusea & Dark MateriaFollow The Greatest Generation on Twitter, and discuss the show using the hashtag #GreatestGen!The Greatest Generation is on YouTube.Facebook group | Subreddit | Discord | WikiSign up for our mailing list!Get a thing at podshop.biz!

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Starting point is 00:00:00 Hey Portland, we know you get made fun of a ton, that you're a hipster paradise that's all IPAs and overpriced heritage workwear and vegan strip clubs, but we know what you really are, a big old city full of nerds. And what the nerds love? Star Trek Jigs. That's why we're bringing the Sherry Rebarishment Tour to the Alberta Rose Theater this week. That's right, we're coming back to walk over your bridges, admire your stumps, wear your nikes, and in return give you an evening full of belly laughs about Star Trek V, the final
Starting point is 00:00:33 frontier. November 16th at one of our favorite venues to perform at. So put down your mug of pour over, get off your vintage couch, hop on your fixie, and come to the Share Your Embarrassment Tour. Ticket's still on sale at GreatestGenTour.com. Captain Captain Brindan, what are the U.S.s? 4A2, Captain Captain Captain. Welcome to the greatest generation. It's a Star Trek podcast by a couple of guys who are just a little bit embarrassed about
Starting point is 00:01:11 having a Star Trek podcast. I'm Ben Erison. I'm Adam Prantica. Uh, a different camera setup than we've done before. But we're here on our YouTube channel in addition to the podcast today. And shit house drunk because we recorded the previous episode right before this. So yeah, we're here.
Starting point is 00:01:35 We're gonna open some packages, because this is a Code 47. Captain, I'm sorry to disturb you. I'm receiving a Code 47. Verify? It is code 47 sir Stockly emergency frequency Captions eyes only You made a huge mistake Ben because you got me drunk and you gave me a knife
Starting point is 00:01:56 I give you a knife that's short enough that I've stuck it through I've snuck it through transportation security administration, checkpoints, several times and not felt that bad about it. And you just get pulled over by them for everything else. I know, they never catch it. It's absolutely banana cakes. I keep waiting for that moment. Yeah, but they do not catch the knife. They, they want to see what's in my bags. It's deeply troubling ultimately as well as and disappointing for me because I want to see Ben briefly imprisoned. Yeah, that would be great We have a bunch of male here. First couple are just postcards. Here's a our first one
Starting point is 00:02:42 Some cool shuttlecraft designs. I guess this is an enterprise E-shuttle from the look of it, let's see. It says, if you're ever in the mood for Korean barbecue when you're in the Boston area, there are a lot of good options, but the best might be Koryana outside Central Square in Cambridge, and for cocktails,
Starting point is 00:03:03 check out the back bar in Union Square, Somerville, and that's from Chief. Everyone wants us to go to Cambridge. Every time we go to Boston, if you notice that. That's true. I mean, we were right nearby at the ones in Somerville the first time we did a show in Boston, but that was not a good venue for us. It wasn't. Yeah. But Chief, we actually met in the meet and greet line. It was big fun. At the Boston show, and man, I wish we had read this before we went, because some KBBQ is always something we enjoy.
Starting point is 00:03:38 Instead we just ate oysters. Lots of oysters. We did. As we're want to do before a live show, we'll eat oysters. Yeah. We're so stupid. It hasn't been this yet though. Yeah, we've gotten very lucky.
Starting point is 00:03:54 This is another, looks like another enterprise E thing. And it says, Adam and Ben, apologies for sending this without first getting clearance from the card debty, but I just wanted to say thank you for an outstanding live show in Brooklyn. I was all cut up for the Boston show last year, but I'm sorry to admit that my viewing of your podcast dipped off after that because I've had a hard time watching for it, but your live show, not to mention fun hangs before and afterward at Hinderland's with FODs,
Starting point is 00:04:25 reminded me that what you're reviewing is only half the reason to tune in. Who's reviewing it is a much better reason! I'm really enjoying catching up on all the pot I missed. Lastly, I wanted to express my gratitude for your tour locations. I've gotten to go to shows in Boston, Brooklyn, and Philadelphia. Really appreciate it anytime you come to the Northeast. Thank you, Chief. Also a letter from Chief. At any given moment, an FOD only has half of a reason to tune in to our show. Yeah. Really great image of the Enterprise E here a ship that I don't prefer
Starting point is 00:05:07 Not a handsome ship, but it looks great in that in that angle. Yeah, yeah, look It looks as good as it's possible to look. I mean, I think it kind of also helps that we've had some drinks So it does look better I'm just a little preoccupied with the fact that you stabbed a knife into the surface of an antique table that I inherited from my grandfather. Was your grandfather a good man in the Spielberg sense? He was a great man. Some would say the best man.
Starting point is 00:05:42 You know what's unusual about that statement, Ben, is that like he may have been a great man, but he did not leave it up to history to decide. He just went ahead and decided. He would be a great man. Yeah, he just went and did the damn thing. I'm gonna leave this knife in the table though. Yeah, apparently so.
Starting point is 00:06:02 This one seems to have come from some international destination. Yeah, apparently so this one Seems to have come from some international destination. It looks like maybe maybe the United Kingdom Mm-hmm, and it looks like maybe some of the label went over a message to us. Oh It's a I'm gonna something about your grandfather. I'm gonna see if I can, it says, I just realized that the something, something, something, sound like I'm a child, but I'm in fact, if you're a grown-up teacher. Okay, so this is from Amy in the UK, and I'll let you do the honors of opening this package, Adam. I've withdrawn the knife from your grandfather's antique table.
Starting point is 00:06:46 Thank you. Thank you for... un-stabbing my table. My inheritance. The one thing I inherited. Not a great man, nor a wealthy man. Your grandfather? He was great. He just wasn't wealthy. It's possible to be great without being wealthy, Adam.
Starting point is 00:07:05 In these United States, really? Oh, maybe not in the UK. There's a very long message here. I'm just teasing. Oh, this looks like a zine. Let me read you about what this is about. Oh, this looks like a zine. Let me read you about what this is about. Do you abandon Adam? Thank you for all the amazing pod. Your podcasts are my go-to's for anytime I need cheering up. And it persuaded me to be more open
Starting point is 00:07:33 in sharing my embarrassment. I even had a Picard mouse. Matt Custom made for my Desk at school. So now children regularly ask me why I have that old man on your desk That the one you shouldn't have asked at your school. Hmm. What's that old man doing on your desk? Like only second to Why did you put such a long pause in between mouse and mat?
Starting point is 00:08:08 Yeah, that was... that's your drama. I have enclosed a zine slash creative writing project my sister found in a record shop for some reason. Oh man. I'm confident the writer must now be a listener. If indeed it is not a pen name for Ben. Mmm. Thanks again. Amy. So what Amy has included here is a Zene by Joshua Chapman.
Starting point is 00:08:33 And it is a field guide to the aliens of Star Trek, the next generation, season one. And I am very excited that we've received this because I think I have the season five that really looks handwritten of this scene I have another issue of this exact scene for a different season of Star Trek and The fact that this came all the way from the UK is Maybe the most amazing thing about this because I think I bought mine in like Seattle or Portland at like a zine store Hold on a second you you bought something like this?
Starting point is 00:09:07 I did. What, spending, how much money did you spend on this? Like $3 max. You can see on this, on the cover there's a, there's a dogman. Yeah. And a lizardman? Yeah. Dog versus lizard was a...
Starting point is 00:09:23 And a binar? Oh man, there's a binar. There's a whole thing on data in there. There's a whole thing on Troy. Season one, like you get aliens from the main cast when you get the zine. You know what? I've always thought binar was kind of a spectrum, man. Oh boy, there are a lot of pages about the Code of Honor aliens.
Starting point is 00:09:49 Oh boy. Are the aliens or racist caricatures? I think it's worth it to give a lot of pages to the Code of Honor aliens. The like beautiful cursive handwriting is one of the most charming things about this scene. Pfft. I also think it's weird that they made these guys black. Pfft. I mean, I think it's fine that there are black aliens.
Starting point is 00:10:17 Pfft. But they walk around like their characters from some really old racist cartoon. Pfft. Pfft. They were turbents and puffy pants and I don't see why they didn't just go all the way and have them constantly walking around. I'm not gonna finish that sentence. This is what passes for for woke culture in 1990. Finishing that sentence would end our show. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:10:49 I'm not drunk enough to do that. You're nearly drunk enough to do that, but not quite. Amazing. I noticed you've stabbed that knife back into my, uh, ancient table. Here's what I want to show the Friends of Disodo. There is a crack through this table
Starting point is 00:11:07 in which i have i have merely pressed the knife into it's not making new stab marks it's just occupying stab marks that already existed uh... this next packages from donna
Starting point is 00:11:22 m in jamaica plain, Massachusetts back to where we're gonna Cheave lives for back to Boston. Oh, you're gonna have me open this up again. Yeah, I love it You're on knife duty today, buddy. Yeah, I mean it didn't seem like you were okay with that initially Well, I didn't realize at the time it would involve damaging priceless family heirlooms, but uh that's as you get when you invite me over, Pan. I guess so. I guess that is where we are as a podcast. All right, hopefully a package that will not get us canceled, it's heavy.
Starting point is 00:11:58 It's heavy for its size, wouldn't you say? Yeah, I would say it's heavy. They're like gold bars in there like Okay, when it's really got here. Oh, then we've got magnets from the magnets magnets are heavy. They're made out of iron That's one of the heavy metals from the Isabella Stewart Gardner Museum I love the Isabella Stewart Gardner Museum. You know, the teens call it the IGSM. Do they really? Yeah. They're so fucking good.
Starting point is 00:12:29 Got a couple for me too. We gotta start thinking about Vermeer as a brand. That is what the Isabella Stewart Gardner Museum has done. It is a monument to Veneer. Ha-ha-ha-ha-ha-ha-ha. Then we've got a letter here from Donna. The message goes like this, greetings. Aksperchimota crew, first stuff I'd like to thank all of you for making such a great pot.
Starting point is 00:12:54 Thank you, Donna. Greatest Trek is, oh this isn't even for our show, it's for Greatest Trek. Fuck! Guy, fucking dammit! Greatest Trek is truly an all-time favorite for me as a token of my esteem here are some mementos from a recent episode of Strange New Worlds. Oh man.
Starting point is 00:13:14 These come to you from my place of employment the Isabella Stewart Gardner Museum, not the Louvre. That's wild. I love the fact that their friends at the Soto's working at the Gardner Museum. I have really enjoyed my visits there over the years. To which I cordially invite you to visit
Starting point is 00:13:33 while you're in Boston next, live long and prosper, love Donna. This is the second straight message we've gotten from people in Boston or Boston adjacent who are like, come visit our thing. Yeah, we've already been there Hey, listen, I am sad to say that we did not get to go to that museum when we were in Boston on the share your Barisement tour, but instead we just spent all our time on the docks. Yeah, slurping oysters but
Starting point is 00:14:01 Hey, I want you guys to step up your security and keep your art under a little bit more careful lock and key before I go back next time. I'm sick of seeing those spots in the walls with the nicotine stains around where the paintings used to be. You're talking about your hotel room? The thing, they've been famous art haste at the Gardner Museum. I did not know that. Yeah. At the Isabella's Seward Garden Museum? Check out the, what they do with the S and the T. Is there a name for that?
Starting point is 00:14:33 Oh, I don't know. They combine them into a fun little logo. The T and the E. Oh! They're combined. See? They're a little closer. See?
Starting point is 00:14:43 The T and the E are combined. See? That's like tan the e are combined! See? That's like the a in the e that's one letter. And now? An orthopedic. Orthopedic. Hey, I could always use a magnet.
Starting point is 00:14:58 I'm really glad I have these from the Isabella Stewart Gardner Museum. And our next package here is from Robby in Arlington, Virginia, which is also a place we were very near recently. Also a place where members of my ancestry are buried. Yeah, it's pretty surprising. I'm just dropping a knife into their grave plots to you, I bet. No kidding. I'm surprised you're not pissing on this package the way you've pissed on the graves of my ancestors.
Starting point is 00:15:35 No letter? Oh, we got a letter. Oh, yeah. Who's it we got? Star Trek's dead of honor looks like a, uh, oh. Oh, man! It's a graphic novel. Check this out.
Starting point is 00:15:48 Here's the card. You know what I love? A person who has their own... ...stationary? This is from the Reverend Robbie Lofton. Wow. What have you done? I'm reluctant to read a letter from a Reverendend just because I feel like they would hate me.
Starting point is 00:16:07 Yeah. Let's see what this reverend has to say. Dear Ben and Adam, on a recent deep dive into the history of Marvel Comics, I learned that famed, unpopular X-Men writer Chris Claremont, though to start track graphic novel for DC immediately after leaving Marvel, Whoa. Sounds like a spiked comic. Yeah, no kidding. Now, you may think that the first adventure of the Enterprise A is documented
Starting point is 00:16:31 in everybody's favorite film, Star Trek V, but what my theory presupposes is that Claremont wrote a far superior outing in Star Trek dead of honor. Wow. That is. We've thought a lot about this on the show your embarrassment to are like, what happened in between four
Starting point is 00:16:50 and five? This is an early page in this comic book. What this comic book presupposes is maybe a Kirk and our favorite whale biologist went on a sexy vacation together. Wow. Oh, that's fun. I like seeing wet Kirk. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:17:15 Yeah. Look at how wet he is. I mean, he's wetter than she is. Oh, yeah, absolutely. But not by much. Those basements are dry as a bone. Look at this Kirk face here. Just wanna show you this.
Starting point is 00:17:29 Look at that guy. I guess happy to be there. Yeah, that is really something. Wow, I can't wait to read this. Big fun. Hey, thanks, Reverend. This came from a man of the cloth? Yeah, amazing, right?
Starting point is 00:17:50 Seems too horny for that. I know. Hey, there's some horny men of the cloth I think we know that Yeah, do we have any other any other packages fan? Yeah, we got a couple packages Adam. Let roll through them. You want to open this one up? Okay. This one is from our buddy John Green in Brooklyn, New York, who friends of the soda will remember as the author of the investigators. Mmm. That looks like another book.
Starting point is 00:18:18 It is another book. Yeah. And, uh, like we also have a letter. Look at this beautiful card stock that John Green writes his letters from. That's bone. Hello again, Ben and Adam. Nothing super impressive this time, just sending these latest copies of my investigator series. You may have recently plugged it via a Priority One.
Starting point is 00:18:41 This is the installment with quite a number of greatest gen and greatest trek references. It's a bit of a scavenger hunt. Page 1 has a slight nod to your love and appreciation of one or two of your oft-mentioned favorite submarine films, just to get you started. Anyway, thanks for the continued laughs and entertainment. Sorry, I'll again miss a live show as I will be on Booktour myself, all the best, John Green. He has feel free to keep a copy or share one and send another to Wendy Bill
Starting point is 00:19:18 or a slick back in need. Page One goes with a binocular person looking often of the horizon. They say the water's cold this morning captain. Cold and wet says the other gourd. Great Scott! Yes? What's that? And then the binoculars, there appears to be a life raft. Oh my god, they got Captain DeSoto on the life raft.
Starting point is 00:19:50 Amazing. Captain DeSoto on a life raft. You know, we should do, uh, we should do a bonus episode of just you and me reading a book for someone to go to sleep by. No one's ever thought of that idea before. No, nobody, but we have. And so we should do it. I agree. This is great, John Green. Thank you for sending another one of your smash hit investigators books. I'm looking at your bookshelf, and you have four of them on your bookshelf. Ishelf. This adds to my huge collection that I look forward to reading with Daron when Daron is old enough to enjoy.
Starting point is 00:20:33 You know I went into your house to use the bathroom. Yeah, do you see Daron? Daron was not happy about that at all. Oh, he got cranky. He did not enjoy my present. Sorry to hear that buddy. He did not enjoy my presence. Sorry, you hear that, buddy. Yeah. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:20:48 Big upset. He gets cranky when I go in too, because I'm not going into stay and hang out with him. Yeah. So I choose to interpret it as that. He loves your tons. OK. Last package here comes from something
Starting point is 00:21:04 called Laundry in Portland, Oregon. Hmm. Laundry. I like our chances of something good in this box. I have a good feeling about this. I don't think there's any note in here. Wow. I think it's just a pair of hats.
Starting point is 00:21:22 These hats look so great. These are Star Trek V, the final frontier hats from laundrypdx.com. The thing about laundrypdx is, like these look like vintage hats. These don't look like remakes. They have like vintage store smell too, you know? Like when you walk into like a cool curated...
Starting point is 00:21:47 Like when you walk into an old house and it feels like they're about to die? Or a cool curated thrift shop, you know? Like they've got like a... Either one of those. They've got all the stuff. And this hat like any other hat does not look good on me. I think your hat looks good on you.
Starting point is 00:22:05 You look good in the hat. I like a rope hat. I like this thing. These have the traditional... Let's trade hats. I want to see if the white hat looks better on me. They have the rope across the front. Are you a flat brimmed?
Starting point is 00:22:19 Asshole. I tend to curve my brim. So, I don't know. Yeah, I think these are good hats. And they say Star Trek V, the final frontier, which is also very good. We're obligated to take these out on tour with us now. These were $40 each? God.
Starting point is 00:22:38 This is a... Vintage headwear is expensive. Did this company just send us these hats or did they, did somebody buy them and have them sent by the company? That's what we're trying to figure out. I think that Bill said something about this specific sender in our slack.
Starting point is 00:22:55 Let me just pull up our mail call. It's my make for a good golf hat. What would you make of a person who rolled up? I think it's a good start track five hat. No, I think it's a good golf hat. What would you make of a person who rolled up? I think it's a good start track five hat. No, I think it's a good golf hat. Alex, care of laundry PDX and so sent this and we really appreciate it. I love this hat. It's a good hat. It's real good. Are you going to stay with the white one? The black hat looks really good on you. I think neither of these look good on me. I think I think it look good in both
Starting point is 00:23:25 Adam and I and I'm not I'm not just saying that. I think I think you're a handsome gentleman and a hat. I kind of want to flick my rope a little bit. Hmm. It gives me something to do. I want to shoot your rope. Anyways, this has been a code 47 and now we are going to pivot into episode and boy what an episode we've got at him. It's the final episode of season six. It's season six episode 26. Unimetric zero. Fart one. Fuck, I miss red that it's part one. It is. You probably confused it with the dog varts. Being ripped in here.
Starting point is 00:24:11 Yeah. Thanks, Darwin. Reverse course. Unless you've got something a little bigger in your torpedo tubes, I'm not turning around. Oh. Ben, do you the sleep app on your phone or on your watch? Cause I have one on mine
Starting point is 00:24:25 and it keeps track of when my REMs happen. I do and my REMs tend to only happen when I'm visiting. Was that Athens Georgia? Yeah, that makes sense. Good pull. Yeah, you get a lot of close ups
Starting point is 00:24:46 on the eyelids in this episode. This first one really betrays how thick the makeup is when you're a Borgs. This is tough. This is a rough ride. Tough ride, you know, it's like you zoom in on Borgs city, you zoom in on Borgi, and by the time you're really, really close on Borgi, you zoom in on Borg Eye, and by the time you're really, really close on Borg Eye,
Starting point is 00:25:05 you're just like, I really love how you're taught what the scale of Borg City is by virtue of the cube. You roll a cube through there and you understand. Cubs are little compared to Borg City, and the entrepreneur is little compared to Cubs, so Borg City big. yeah, Borg city big. Therefore Borg city big. There go.
Starting point is 00:25:31 There's a Borg's drone having a malfunction and he's brought through the vagina door into the Queen's chamber. Yeah. Where he gets to watch her get ready. This is a power move, right? It takes so long to get ready. When you're permitted to watch her get ready. This is a power move, right? Oh, it takes so long, you get ready. When you're permitted to watch her get ready. I know, but queens, we know this, queens take their time getting ready. She really relishes in crushing this guy's balls over and over again about what he may not know.
Starting point is 00:26:03 Like, torture doesn't work. We've known that for a long time, but this seems like a presumption of torture to come. She's talking about an illness, a thing that is afflicting him and she wants to know the interlinked sequence that binds him to the other sickos, if you will. And he's like, I don't know, I don't know man, I don't remember nothing.
Starting point is 00:26:27 And he can't really help her. And she does not enjoy being denied what she wants. She takes great umbrage with this to the extent that she shuts his link to the collective. He's alone all of a sudden. And this is like being naked, He's alone all of a sudden. And this is like being naked, right? When you're a drone. I know how uncomfortable that can be.
Starting point is 00:26:52 Aren't you archie-leach? That's one of the worst things that can happen to you. It's really interesting how like, Borg's democratization is weaponized here. Like everyone's the same except the queen. And the queen gets to torture him and also like sexually titillate him. Didn't you get the sexualization of the scene a little bit? There is a thing that is carried over
Starting point is 00:27:20 from Star Trek, Cole, in first contact with the Borg Queen, which is that she's always kind of like slinking around and being a sexy little minks. Was that good for you? In a way that sort of made sense with data in that movie. But in first contact, I don't think anyone wanted to fuck her. And in this sequence, I feel like this Beck Bennett drone kind of wants to.
Starting point is 00:27:51 Like there's a little bit of that edge to this scene. Right. Like he fucking loves this shit. Yeah. Kind of relishing. Yeah. I mean, who among us has not in a non-sexual moment told our wife that we would love for her to demand the interlinked sequence from us during? He does not remember the frequency. And this is bad news for him. What he does not know is that he's about to lose his head over this.
Starting point is 00:28:24 Yeah, he's going to get dismantled for his trouble. And they're going to dig something out of his head to find out what that sequence is. After the theme, seven of nine visits her local home center, where she sees some other customers, one of which calls her by her name. Where she sees some other customers, one of which calls her by her name. Axum would like to talk to her about some of the deciduous and coniferous planting options that are available for her region of the country in terms of what grows best. Now depending on which home center you visit, if you happen to be wearing an orange top and beige bottoms, you may be confused with someone who works at the star.
Starting point is 00:29:13 Either way, you should be able to ask which zone you're living in and what herbs and decorative plants will grow well in your gut. This is effectively a nightmare for 7 of 9, just as it would be for me. Don't bother me while I'm trying to shop at the home center. Yeah. I'm there to do business. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:29:35 It's confusing, right? Because she sees a group of low-fi aliens and one of them disappears mid-conversation and then she meets Axum and like one of them like disappears mid conversation and then she meets Axum and like. Here's a question. Knowing what you know later about Axum, should this be a sexy dream? Oh, like like she what's the charging pad? See, I regret actually asking my question. See, I regret actually asking my question. Because seven wakes up in this regeneration chamber and she is not feeling great about this.
Starting point is 00:30:12 So she heads to six bay where the doctor is always like this. Like the doctor plays the note that does not fit with the patient's general deal. Because the doctor is congratulating her on this thing that seven is not happy to be in six before. She wants to know what it means, and the doctor's excited to find out with her, except the doctor's not invited to find out with her. She wants it to go away.
Starting point is 00:30:40 Please repair my cortical array. This isn't a malfunction seven. It's baby's first dream. Yeah. She doesn't like dreaming. I mean, it's not her first dream because she's been human before, before being borgs. But it's like now that she's suddenly human again. The doctor's like, hey, this is you.
Starting point is 00:31:00 I'm going to give you a thing to measure this with. I'm going to fit you for a watch that tells you when you're an REM. And she's like, no, fuck that. Like, turn this shit off. I don't like it. And the doctor is like, no, this is great. Like, you can like learn a lot about your subconscious this way. Yeah. Before you know it, you look forward to climbing into your alcove each night. So he really encourages it. This is the first of two scenes in a row that involve a character not really reading the room. Because on the bridge, Paris arrives to work exactly 10 seconds late
Starting point is 00:31:35 or whatever. And he walks like much like a like a football player during training camp like running the tires. Oh yeah. He runs the ball kickers all the way to a station. Paris is in the offseason combine and catching a ton of heat for being late. Janeway loves this shit. She like had so much bad doesn't she? She had so much fun doing this when it was two bucks birthday that she got the whole bridge crew and fall. She's like, oh my god, this is so fun. Take your station. This is not fun for Paris. You finally see like a little box on a seat. Yeah. Like, what am I supposed to do with this? Just sit on it. If I had been
Starting point is 00:32:18 through what Paris had been through just to get to work that day, I'd be like, fine, I'm sitting on this box. I'm not mentioning it to anyone. But instead he does. And inside the box is a pip representing his reenstatement to lieutenant junior grade. Yeah, he got his pip back. And I did like that Kim spoke up about how weird it is that it's been this long and nobody's even thought about what his rank might be at this point. I love on the DVD like Janeway gets a scene here where she's like, Harry, you get your pips in other ways.
Starting point is 00:32:59 And we all seem to understand that. Something about reminds me of being in the world. Harry. Who are you? Harry Kim. understand that. It's so important to find meaning outside the workplace, right? And that's what Harry Kim will have to do forever. Yeah. There's like 127 some odd people stationed aboard the ship. Presumably, roughly 50% of them are available for sexual
Starting point is 00:33:44 dalliances with Harry Kim. He's gonna get his pips. Potentially available for a sexual dialyance is an asteroid calling in distress. Yeah. They gotta go to this thing. And once they roll up, it is real ants on a rock vibes. This thing kind of rolls over into view. They're like, hey, maybe we made it in time.
Starting point is 00:34:05 And the asteroid rolls over, and it's just a bloody mist in dissapear. I said, none. I'm detecting residual weapon signatures. They're Borg. And Jane was like, air, maybe not. Nothing has ever looked more russet potato-y than this asteroid. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:34:28 Do you think this is one of the potatoes from the science fair from before and they're recycling it? Oh, they were like, well, we already built these models. Let's just repaint this as asteroid. You have to at this point, right? I don't know. The thing that makes me think maybe not is the domes. They do show the fucked up domes.
Starting point is 00:34:48 Sometimes you want a fucked up dome though. Harry Kim is like. Depending on the mood. I've had fucked up dome in my life, but this is ridiculous. A course is locked in. What? This one to me, very careful, because I'm going to see this once.
Starting point is 00:35:04 One interesting thing about this Borg's attack is that it is not in a scoop kind of attack. It didn't scoop the potato. They leave the dome behind. Yeah. That's how you know you're not in the mood when you reject the dome, not tonight Borg's. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:35:19 There is a cube on the edge of the system. So presumably this may be who is attacking the potato when the potato sent the distress signal. I feel like Star Trek rarely does this with time, which is like, oh, two hours is too late to respond to a distress call. Like the passage of time is so meaningful here in a way that you would feel like it would be most of the time because space is big. Space hell are big. Yeah. You just won't believe how vastly, hugely mind bogglingly big it is. And potatoes very small, so small. Unless the rest of it, sometimes those are pretty big. Yeah. But not space big, you know. In the Alcove seven is not looking forward to regeneration time, but she puts on the
Starting point is 00:36:07 REM recorder anyway, and gets right on in there. And goes to sleep and she wakes up in the forest again. This time it's night time, and this is Unimetric Zero. Axum is kind of the perfect name for a person you need information from. Just Axum. He'll tell you. He has a really deep V also. He does. And in this scene, we learn what Unimetric Zero is. It's a club where she's been before, but she barely remembers. Yeah, but it's like that kind of club, or if you remember being there, maybe you weren't really there, man. They find a boy together who remembers a Borg's attack and is trying to find his family. And when he leaves seven and ax him, kind of talk to each other like, damn, that kid's just been assimilated, huh? That's kind of fucked up. Really fucked up. I feel really bad for this little little boy.
Starting point is 00:37:05 But now bad enough to comfort him in any way. They just let him go. Yeah, there's other kids here, head off into the woods and you'll probably find him. The story with Unimaketrix Zero is this. This is a forest that one in a million people have the chance to be a part of because of some sort of genetic mutation. And they don't remember being there once they wake up. This is the
Starting point is 00:37:28 crucial part. Like when you regenerate, you get to go to Unimetric Zero, when you wake up, you don't remember it at all. If you're a very lucky borax, you get to spend your time on the charging mat in Unimetric Zero. The queen wants to destroy this place because it detracts from her perfect worldview and can seven stop her? That's what Axum asks. And they have a nanovirus that they can deploy, but Axum can't do that because as soon as he wakes up, as has been already been stated, he cannot remember to do that. Axum, or 4 of 12 or whatever, I too have experienced difficulty like this.
Starting point is 00:38:15 Whenever I go to a club, I do not remember exactly what I did that night. Sometimes I will choose to have tequila sodas all night. Other times I sneak into VIP and enjoy battle, service with rich assholes. Axum actually has a really bad relationship with Unimetric Zero because he is clearly unable to resist going there and instead wants a friend of his to destroy it. It's really sad. It's like Axum has identified that he has a problem with Unimetric Zero, but... Axum doesn't recognize that he has a bunch of people in Unimetric Zero that really love Axum doesn't recognize the Diaz of Bunch of People in Unimetric Zero that really loves him and cares about him quite a bit.
Starting point is 00:39:08 Yeah. When they go up to the bluff and they're looking down on the kind of inlet of Unimetric Zero where all the like tenths are down below. Yeah. Does that look good to you? It looked a lot like Caminar to me. It did. Like Saru would be right at home in Unimatric Zero, which makes me think that maybe somebody
Starting point is 00:39:29 should consider assimilating Saru. Whenever my ganglia get erect, I sense the coming of a camping vacation. And I do not like that. Yeah. Like all they want from seven is to help them conceal the existence of Unimetric Zero from the BQ. Yeah. And they're kind of pitching her on like, you know, you can do something about this because you remember that you were here
Starting point is 00:40:00 when you wake up and she's like, I do remember. And they're like, why did you say it like that? That's what you know what? It's kind of fucked up that we've got klingons around here and you're kind of doing klingon voice. Their culture is not your costume, seven. Back on that Borg's base that we saw at the beginning
Starting point is 00:40:22 of the episode, they got that first drone's head on a stick. Yeah, and they're trying to figure out what the deal is with Unimetric Zero. They don't have enough information from this guy like they They are not gentle with ripping parts out of this guy's head. Yeah, and they need more heads to harvest from obviously. Yeah, like if you're done like that type of shuffleboard, they have in a barber There's like a bunch of like salt on like a wood table and you're doing the little discs down there. Oh yeah, that's like the powder.
Starting point is 00:40:49 Yeah. That's what they pull out of this head. They're scanning that. They pull a parmesan shaker full of unimagrics powder. Yeah. And they're making progress and figuring out. Like I think they figured out the carrier wave but not the particular sequence.
Starting point is 00:41:07 The thing you gather from the Borux queen here is that she will cut off head after head to get what she wants. Yeah. There's no amount of heads that would be too much for her. There's something very medieval about it, like, almost like she wants to put these heads on a pike outside the castle keep till like set a example. I mean she has pikes in her weird lab. She has. And they put these heads right on them. Since when do the borings even have that in their in their toolkit? Did they replicate head pike?
Starting point is 00:41:38 Does she seem cruel in a way that the earlier queens we've met are not. I don't know. I mean, that earlier one, like, made special skin for data and then blew on it to give him the Borgs do get goose bumps. This Borgs queen does not seem interested in blowing anyone. Yeah. No. Yeah. That's why Harry Kim doesn't fucks with their back in Unimetric Zero. It's like a civil war encampment there. Like this for some reason is paradise to a borax. I guess anything is paradise to a borax that isn't the life of an assimilated person. Yeah, so Axum convinces seven to help, but that Klingon guy that you met earlier, Korok, who for some reason gives her a seed that can be redeemed for expanded inventory
Starting point is 00:42:29 later. Doesn't like the idea. We learn here that dying in Unimetric Zero isn't like the Matrix. You just wake up as a Borgs and then when you go to sleep again you're back in Unimetric Zero. That's interesting. Yeah. We also get to meet Laura, who was at Wolf 359. And I like that Laura does not appear to be in Starfleet.
Starting point is 00:42:56 Like this goes to further confirm our deepest concerns that maybe Starfleet sent ships full of families. So all three five nine. Oh, that's interesting. Like they didn't separate the saucer sections of so many ships. Yeah, there's no time. Yeah. They didn't have enough jordies aboard who would think to do that.
Starting point is 00:43:18 Yeah. What I really like about this character is that she has a Rachel haircut, which in this show means a Rachel haircut, which in this show means a Rachel Garrett haircut. We'll make it one for the history books. Which I think is big fun. I know you will, Captain. Yeah, she has the Rachel.
Starting point is 00:43:44 So they're like talking and axom disappears mid sentence and wakes up and borg's out. And this is freaky because like we've just seen the board queen like identify other drones that have this adaptation and identify their location. And it kind of feels like maybe this was Axum's last hurrah. And we cut away to a McLaughlin group. Is your want where seven is pitching this idea of like we need to help these drones. Don't you like how we're dropping in on these McLaughlin groups part of the way in or at the very end or whatever. I like the decisions the show is making about like we don't need to attend from the beginning. We don't need to be on time. It's very interesting because this one feels like maybe everybody had gotten up to leave and it was like one more thing. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:44:41 was like one more thing. Yeah. Cause it's also like kind of a long, steady, tracking shot through. And it's kind of revealing who all is there. And it's a funny like order of revealing who is in the room for it. Cause like, Chico Te is pretty late in the pan. Like, like, oh, yeah, like you would be, you would want Chico Te to be in the room for this, but also like not that important that Chico takes in this. I love how annoying the doctor becomes with his like, doctoring of adventure that he seems to be interested at all times.
Starting point is 00:45:16 Yeah. Like, why won't you just go with whatever weird idea this is from seven? Yeah. His co-signing is not enough in this moment. Harry Kim considers this to be a authentic EA app. Like this under Starfleet law counts as a distress signal. And therefore we have to respond to it. Don't you feel like this scene is so important for your Don't you feel like this scene is so important for your appreciation of this episode? Because like, say you get that Unimetric Zero is real.
Starting point is 00:45:54 Why should it matter is what this scene is all about? And Kim's argument is it's Starfleet Protocol, but man, you really gotta want this to ride for the mission afterwards, right? Yeah, you gotta believe that there is some upside at all. There's coffee in that potential weakness in the collective. I mean, at least Janeway is like, we've got to learn more before we take action.
Starting point is 00:46:25 Like, like, that's something I can get with, right? Like, she's not going, all right, Harry Kim. Cool. Let's do it. At least she's like, let's find out more. That's something I could get with. Last I checked, Harry. You're still a fucking ensign.
Starting point is 00:46:38 You're not even a lieutenant junior grade. Out of nowhere. Two Voc like takes an arm and shoves hairy came out of the way and he's like, you know, I can bridge minds by using both hands. Like, somehow, no one asked for this to look volunteers to bridge the minds of Janeway and seven in such a way that would also put him in Unimetric Zero as kind of a witness to it. To have more or less as after five seasons of doing almost nothing but melding minds, and then one season of doing no mind-melding. It would be a great way to cap this season off if I could do a super mind-melding. I have shaperoned many high school dancers. I believe him fully equipped to shine a flashlight between. I mean, we don't get
Starting point is 00:47:51 that Janeway has agreed to this until in the corridor when she tells Chico Tay that he's got the con. And Chico Tay in the scene is like, look, I can do more for this storyline if you want, like a lot more. And Janeway is like, no, that's fine. I just want you to have the ship. If I could have some stuff to do, like that would be cool too. And she's like, no, no, no. There's no preparation that needs to be done because it basically goes from McLaughlin group to Cordoor to Borg's Alcove, where Tuvac scrubs in to his double-faced meld.
Starting point is 00:48:32 Yeah, well, the image like belly aches about how dangerous this is or whatever. Like I feel like the earmages, they're just say things are dangerous without really selling that they are. It's because Tuvac can't say that for himself. Yeah. I mean, it does sort of worry me when Tuva is like, I saw a guy do this once.
Starting point is 00:48:55 Yeah, it's got real after school, high school vibes, you know? Yeah. So, Janeway arrives in Unimetric Zero where she meets not seven of nine, but Anika, who is without dolphin and is in a, you know, festively colored romper or whatever. She's like, hey, I'm Anika and I'm hot now. And this is how I talk. Back with the Borgs queen, she's got another couple heads on sticks. And she thinks she has the frequency isolated for the Unimetric Zero that she's been hunting down.
Starting point is 00:49:37 But nothing she can do turns it off. Like her gole up until now, turn off Unimetric Zero. At this point, she's like, I can't turn it off. Like her goal up until now, turn off Unimetric Zero. At this point, she's like, I can't turn it off. Maybe I can get in there and destroy it from inside. Yeah. She is very frustrated. Probably the crankiest we've seen her since data fired those torpedoes and didn't hit the Phoenix. I mean, I don't wanna predict the future of this episode or the bottom of the cliff that we fall to after, but like, she seems like she could use
Starting point is 00:50:16 a hairy Kim in her life, right? Yeah. He was stating the obvious again. She could use getting it knocked out a little bit. Like, how many wraps could that metallic spinal column take around that crank? Probably four. What a freshly fucked Bork's queen B as worked out about Unimetric Zero as this one is. Because it doesn't seem like that big a threat, right? And also the Bork's queen seems capable of feeling enjoyment from things.
Starting point is 00:50:45 She should go there. She should go hang out. Yeah. What's stopping her? She decides that might be the solution. Meanwhile we go to Unimetric Zero where Janeway is kind of talking to Axe him about the idea of like maybe the solution isn't hiding better, maybe the solution is fighting back. And he's like, did you hear the thing about it's one and one million? Like each one
Starting point is 00:51:13 of us would have to kill 900,000. I didn't do the math here, but it seems like there's 14 people in Unimetric Zero. Yeah, not a whole ton. What are we trying to save here? Yeah, and in the midst of this drone start materializing in the Unimetrics and... Didn't you like this scene? It was great, like, Borg's in the mist, terrifying.
Starting point is 00:51:38 What are they doing there? What are you eating here? Yeah. I love how the Borgx Queen is able to watch from her sports bar, like all the action, from all the different stadiums. Yeah, the BQ-Dub3, I think it's called. She's watching Red Zone.
Starting point is 00:51:56 Yeah, she's eating chicken wings and drinking a bruski. Don't you love that like assimilation nodules mean you're a race from Unimetric Zero, you go back into your alcove and that is the moment the queen knows where you are in the Borg's universe. Your location is revealed. Yeah, that's wild.
Starting point is 00:52:19 But like that they don't describe that with any detail. You're like you just see it happen, I think is great. It's really well done. They're very lucky that the Klingon Korak has a batlet with him because that is very useful for striking down these drones that keep showing up in Unimetric Zero. But Korak gets sidelined after taking out a whole bunch of them and Janeway has to pick up the batlet and start doing her own fighting. This is when back in the sports bar, the BQ sees Janeway fling in that batlet around and realizes she's got a much bigger problem on her hands.
Starting point is 00:53:02 When you select Janeway in the Street Fighter arcade cabinet, I feel like there's only one button for Janeway and that is like the upward thrust of the bat lift. She's only got one move. I just think that the idea of Korak dropping is 6 foot 7, you know, like upward thrust is where most of her enemies are gonna be. You win. I just think that the idea of Korak dropping his batlet is seen as like a hero rises kind of move. Yeah. That isn't actually what takes place here. Have you ever wanted to know the sad lore behind Chuck E. Cheese's love of birthday parties? Or, I said I'd eat mornings or reserve for cartoons?
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Starting point is 00:54:47 I know you do yucky dresser, huh? It comes out every Wednesday, the worst day of the week, wherever you download your podcast. For our next topic, we're talking Fyota, the baby hippo, from the Cincinnati Zoo. I hate this little hippo back on the voyage or bridge Janeway and two vuck are back and Janeway is upset with how things went mostly because I was only given one move, one button, just an upward the rest of the batlet. It does not seem fair.
Starting point is 00:55:33 She starts talking to Chicoate about what mean, you know, Matrix zero and their weird access to it via 7. And she kind of feels like this is a big opportunity. Like we could help the zeros take action to defend themselves in the real world and thereby sort of take the boards off the playing field as rivals to the federation. But she's manipulating him, right? Because she's like, you haven't had much to do lately. And I know you still want to fuck me. That sounds great. What would you do if you disagreed with me in this moment, Chico Te?
Starting point is 00:56:21 Leave that pencil alone for just a moment and let's talk about this. I really like to go to here because he sees the big picture. He's like, I want to get home, but I also want to kill some fucking Borgs and maybe all the Borgs. Yeah. What's more important to me in this moment, risking all of us feels worth it for that. I mean, if you're going to give me nothing to do, risking all of us feels worth it for that. I mean, if you're gonna give me nothing to do,
Starting point is 00:56:46 risking all of this kind of makes some sense to me. It's fucking wild that Janeway is like, you better fucking agree with me on this. Like, it's not like, I'm not gonna do this if you don't agree with me on it. It's like, you have to agree with me on it. Period. But in that way that's like, I'll do it anyway. I would feel a little
Starting point is 00:57:08 bad about it, but I really need you to ride with me on this. Yeah. It does not seem like he has any choice. You're right. They go down to six Bay, where the EMH and BLT have used information that they got from XM to create a new version of this like Borg's virus that like the original version hid the signal that the BQ is looking for. And this new updated version will change the drones that experience you in a Matrix Zero so that when they wake up from their recharge, they remember a Unifit Matrix Zero. Isn't it totally unclear about whether or not this is a good thing at this point? I am not sure if being able to remember would make anyone happier in the long run. Kern wakes up at his TSA job and he's like, I hate this job.
Starting point is 00:58:16 I remember how bullshit this is. This whole thing, I should be a favorite uncle to Alexander. Instead all I can think about is that my dishonored brother is also a terrible father and I have a dead end gig. This is where the plan starts to get bad, right? He works, he's on Beijor too. Yeah. He's not even on Klingon. No, he's not on Klingon. He's definitely on Beijor. Chronoes. Fuck.
Starting point is 00:58:48 I'm gonna get Star Trek canceled for that. That's just when Star Trek nerd stop caring about you. I really love the idea that this is some big win. Like, hey, you're gonna wake up and know how fucked up things are. Yeah. So they have to get this into the central plexus of a board ship. It's the grondle of any cube. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:59:13 Any cube, but the closest cube is a class four tactical cube. And this is a problem because this is basically the most impenetrable cube there is. It's like doing a like a heist on Fort Knox, you know? Yeah. Like it is described as being like a particularly tough nut to crack. And Janeway is not really concerned about how difficult this is going to be. She really should be because who would know better than seven?
Starting point is 00:59:43 And seven tells her in the corridor that You know, I should really Not be a part of this mission. I'm gonna go back to you know make sure to zero and tell them the cavalry's coming because it was this insane idea You have in the captain. It's like you know when we were in there. I liked how much not there. I like how much not stiff and impersonable character you were. Have you ever considered doing more of that? You got to be careful when you notice a personality change in someone. You got to be careful without like praising that too much because you never know what the engine of that might be. And that's what's happening here. Janeway is like, I like this version of you.
Starting point is 01:00:29 And seven inside is like, you have no idea what I had to do to myself to become this version. Yeah. So back in Unimagic Zero, we learned that there are skirmishes happening all the time. Like the klingons and the banes are kind of the foot soldiers of the unimetric zero people and they're like fighting off the drones that keep showing up. Did you ever wonder what weapons were available to you in unimetric zero? Like could you just conjure a weapon? If you are a bane, do you get bane weapons
Starting point is 01:01:06 and if you're a Klingon, do you get Klingon weapons? Or could you just make up a BFG? Because you wanted one. Right. If you can imagine your dolphin away, you should be able to imagine anything into the situation also. Precisely. And I think this was my main issue with this episode, is that you don't really know what the rules of Unimetric Zero are. You probably know the answer to this. Do they ever answer this in the second part? I don't remember the second part. All right.
Starting point is 01:01:37 Okay. I'm very drunk right now, Adam. More and more drones keep arriving. And this is a problem in Unimetric Zero. Axum and Seven duck out of the way and they watch these drones fucking feast on people. They did a lot of work smoking up this year's garden center so that the. Lasers that the Borgs all have mounted to their heads really like pop in the mist you know. really like pop in the mist, you know? This is like like a grease or whatever. When you take the convertible up to the cliff
Starting point is 01:02:07 with your special person for make-outs, except everything that's happening in the city below are like drones attacking and assimilating people in your city. This is what's happening here because Axon puts his arm around seven and he's like, hey, we fucked kind of a lot over the last six years. And never wanted to tell you before, but it seems like now's the moment
Starting point is 01:02:32 while we're watching these tubules ram into all these throats. Yeah. I don't know what maybe think of it. It's just tubules running into throats. Yeah, and like sometimes they'll like hit this tubule into throats and they'll pull it back out and then they'll go back in and then they'll pull it back out and they'll go back in.
Starting point is 01:02:48 It's surprising how poorly Seven takes this news that they'd been an item for a long time. And this is an episode. And this is a smooch in. It's an episode that truly believes that Seven is in the right for rejecting this. But I feel like Axum is like, hey, we were a thing and I know it's uncomfortable,
Starting point is 01:03:11 but I gotta tell you that we were that. Yeah. He's not the bad guy here. He's not like he's trying to make out with her again, right? No, she's the one that kisses him. That's what I'm saying. Yeah. And then like one of the people that's getting tubules
Starting point is 01:03:27 into their throat is like, oh yeah, that's working. And then the board drone that's doing it like speeds up and starts tubulating them harder. And they're like, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, come on. Back it off, back it off. Just keep doing what you were doing. I was saying that was working. Not change everything about what you were doing. I was saying that was working. Not change everything about what you were doing.
Starting point is 01:03:48 So we finally get to see this tactical cube. And it's like a Borgs cube with big ass slabs of beefy armor on the outside. I like this cube. Is this the coolest cube? It's a very cool cube. It's great. I mean, we've never seen like? It's a very cool cube. It's great. I mean, we've never seen like a variation on a cube. We've seen a sphere. You know what this cube reminds me of?
Starting point is 01:04:11 Is like the portable hard drive that's made for like taking out in the field and like dropping. Yeah. Yeah. Like you could do videography at Burning Man with this cube. This is that kind of cube. Coffee, black, make it yourself. I'm trying to help you see this is an opportunity to grow. Make it yourself. Janeways like great suicide mission. It's just me. I'm taking the Delta flyer. It's weird because Janeway usually likes to take the ship down with her. That's not the case here.
Starting point is 01:04:39 No. She wants a solo mission. She's going to take Tom Parris' special ship down with her. And Tuvac and BLT kind of insist on going along. They kind of quote Starfleet directives at her both real and imagined. Yeah. And she rejects these. And tell Chacote kind of insists as well.
Starting point is 01:04:59 And he's like, you know, Polana's kind of gotten involved with Tom Parris, which I'm not super crazy about, and TuVac betrayed me in one of the deepest ways that anybody has ever betrayed me. So I really do think that they should go along with you. Made argument, the lights flicker, and it's at this point that the Borg's queen gets on FaceTime on the bridge. So Janeway rushes up there and comes face to face with the Borg's queen gets on FaceTime on the bridge. So Janeway rushes up there and comes
Starting point is 01:05:26 face to face with the Borg's queen that we met in the beginning of the episode. She wants to do a trade, trans warp technology for minding your own fucking business. And Janeway's like, no dice. Not a chance. This has been an entire series about me having the option to get home quicker, laid out in front of me for a minor downside that is mainly just an ethical quibble that might keep me up at night for one night maximum. And I will never take that option. If Janeway took this deal, she would be 70 years from the consequences. She would be long dead.
Starting point is 01:06:11 And by not taking this deal, she puts Harry Kim in some sort of fucked up danger. This doesn't even involve Harry Kim. Borg Queen's is like, I'm coming for you first, Harry Kim. And Harry's like, what the fuck did I do? Yeah, I don't even, I have one pip. What are you talking about? Harry Kim's the kid that answers the phone while the parents are out like at dinner.
Starting point is 01:06:34 And the person on the other line is like, Oh, I'm gonna fucking kill you. You didn't do anything to deserve this. Not only does he do nothing to deserve this, he also does nothing to deserve. Nobody giving a fuck that that just happened and nobody mentioning it for the rest of himself. It's really painful.
Starting point is 01:06:54 I think if your Harry came to go through this, he's not gonna get in a pit. He's not getting rescued from whatever the board screen wants to do with him. He's speaking of second string characters on the show. from whatever the board screen wants to do with them. Speaking of second string characters on the show, Paris expresses some discomfort with the idea of BLT going on the mission. And she's like, yeah, I don't know. We're basically not even really in a real relationship. So much about the prep for the mission is about the acceptance that it's a suicide mission from Janeway and Everyone around her. Yeah, it's crazy
Starting point is 01:07:31 How like up until the moment it's time to go? Janeways on the bridge and she's like I've never held your hand before Chico day Mostly because it's filled with pencils But now that it's empty I will hold it and say goodbye. Yeah. You could have had this if you've been a little bit more aggressive. She reaches out and he puts his hand in the palm of hers and goes... Well, I guess this is it.
Starting point is 01:08:04 Chico de puts a pad in front of his, his joke. What do you see, Tvok? Two star fleet officers with juvenile imaginations. It really feels like a big moment, right? Like a last time I see you a moment. Yeah. Did you get this sense? Like, I think the comparison is going to be drawn
Starting point is 01:08:23 with the best of both worlds moment moment where like Picard's gone. Yeah. He never got a chance to say goodbye. He kind of saw it as a losing battle up until the moment he's gone. Like the parallels are there, except Janeway seems to have a choice in the matter. She has a huge choice in the matter. She goes in willingly and when we go back to Unimetric Zero, Anika is there talking to the other drones about like,
Starting point is 01:08:54 okay, you're gonna wake up after this thing happens and you're gonna remember this, you need to be cool. You need to maintain. But this is such an insane plan because seven's like, you're gonna wake up and you're gonna know. No further details will be given at this time. Like, what are they supposed to do? They're just supposed to act as if and then wait to get regenerated again
Starting point is 01:09:21 to be back and you make zero. It's weird as hell. And also, axom, keep it in your fucking pants. Wait to get regenerated again to be back and you know make zero. It's a weird as hell and also axum Keep it in your fucking pants. Yeah, this is over you and me. We're fucking done Is anybody ever broken up with you by saying our previous friendship is irrelevant? Well now that I'll be able to retain my memory I'll keep that in mind. It doesn't need to be this public if you're seven Like she's basically making the halftime speech to the team and she's like looking at the quarter keep that in mind. It doesn't need to be this public if you're seven. Like she's basically making the halftime speech to the team and she's like looking at the
Starting point is 01:09:49 quarterback going, no, we're going to the backup in the second half. Yeah. It's really just killing the five for X. Axum just not deserve this. I don't think. Hey, did Axum do everything right? I think he did. Yeah. It's really harsh, but also breaking up his heart. There's never like a perfect moment, you know.
Starting point is 01:10:11 There's no perfect moment to attack the tactical cube, but it is now that Voyager does this. She's got the Delta flyer. Can we call it the hyper cube? No. No, I don't think so. cube? No. No, I don't think so. Yeah, so they buzz it and they start shooting at it and we get to see this from like a distance out the front windscreen of the Delta fire. I like this. Yeah. And Voyager has to basically like soften up the shielding on the hyper, I mean the tactical cube. They succeed after, you know, really getting the shit kicked out of them for a while. There's a real best at both worlds vibe to this mission, right? Like cruising in, unpowered to the floating.
Starting point is 01:10:56 Yeah, the Delta flyer cuts all its energy and coasts in. It's also very the previous episode of this series in that way. But yeah, like the BQ is like watching all of this and going like, this is a shitty plan. They came up with a bad plan. I'm so disappointed in my arch nemesis, Catherine Janeway, but they beam out of the Delta Fire just in time because it is getting destroyed by the tactical cube. Don't you wish there was a bigger react from Paris when the Delta Flyers destroyed and the three-year beam down to the board ship? Yeah, like if he'd been like, why God, no!
Starting point is 01:11:43 And like Harry had been like, I'm getting three life signs aboard the tactical cube. And he's like, no! Fuck! Oh God! And Harry's like, no, BLT survived. And he's like, I know! I lost my ship, and he's like, no! Interesting tone to this whole thing, right? Because there is not any desperation to the idea that Delta Flares destroyed and the three are beamed onto the board ship,
Starting point is 01:12:12 things seem to be going as planned. Yeah, and they like shoot a couple of borg drones and then they shoot a couple more and those ones have adapted. And it's like, yeah, we've seen a bunch of board episodes before we know how this works. And the hypercube, I mean, the tactical cubes starts targeting the warp core of the Voyager
Starting point is 01:12:35 that awaits you and gets trapped between some force fields, just also something that happened in the last episode. Mm-hmm. A little warmed over Star Trek ideas in this episode. What warmed over Star Trek ideas in this episode? One very new idea in this episode is the cliff we hang from at the end, which is that the LT, Tuvac and Janeway all receive identical haircuts before the end of the episode. Are the borgs a cult?
Starting point is 01:13:09 Amazing ending. Like when you see them assimilated with the tubules, it looks so painful. Like the performances by these three are great. Yeah. I really do feel something here. How do you do? And I love the tension between how awful that seems and Chico Tay and Parastalking and Chico Tay being like, all right, this is going good. I will say that's the thing
Starting point is 01:13:32 I don't like about this especially at the end is how according to plan this whole moment appears to be when I think you could make it according to plan after a summer off. Like I want to live in the question a little longer. Yeah. Then before it, it's the order of that that doesn't quite work for me. But does the episode as a whole work for you, Ben? You know, I'm maybe easy to get along with most of the time. But I don't like bollies, I don't like friends, and I don't like you. I'm just joking. I thought this episode was pretty exciting, and I have to say that like the back half of season six has been fairly replete with bangers. But when you end your season and you go to your summer break and your big cliffhanger. When I am
Starting point is 01:14:26 become cliff kid, I cannot laugh out loud at the way the Captain looks in the last shot of the episode. It's the one thing you can't do. And I don't know what it is about it, like it is, whether it's just the bald cat, I think that like if they'd covered one of her eyes or done cat, I think that if they covered one of her eyes or done something, I think Locutus was so well executed because it was such an upsetting mutilation of Picard. Mutilation is the word. And what I wanted, I won't say it's what I wanted to see,
Starting point is 01:15:00 but I think what I needed to see for this scene to be effective was like people on tables being assimilated. Like I needed restraints or I needed limbs getting cut off. Like I needed the full Borg's package here. Just to like cut from tubules to walking around, it seemed too tame. This is a Class IV tactical cube. Ben, we should be able to bring it a little harder than this.
Starting point is 01:15:27 Then with fucking clippers with the guard cut off. You know what I'm saying? How the fuck are they using a flow bee on BLT? Don't like it. I was with this episode until we saw, like, I think that Borg-Tak and Borg Elty are very effective, but drone way, not effective. I think it's a gistened by a subtraction here.
Starting point is 01:15:55 Take Janeway out of the completely. Don't show me her. Yeah. Save it for after the summer. Save it for after the summer. That's a great edit. So that's sort of where I'm at on this episode. I'm in exactly the same spot. Really fun episode, really good tension. Unfortunate things happen to axum. I got some questions for axum. Yeah. Well, you can always find out your answers
Starting point is 01:16:21 when it comes to axum. Ben, what I really need to do is pee in the worst way I'm going to go do that. Go pee and when you come back we will check in on the priority one inbox. Priority one message from Starfleet coming in on Secured Channel. Need a supplement only. supplement? supplement. supplement. Yes, extra.
Starting point is 01:16:42 The interest alone could be enough to buy this ship. Adam, our first priority on message here is of a promotional nature and goes like this. I'm not selling anything, but what my theory presupposes is a promotional P1 is appropriate if promoting the idea that maybe you could come to Southeast Virginia next tour instead of Adam insert puking noise here. Washington DC again. You already did all the real cities guys. As the 37th largest metro area in the US, we have stuff.
Starting point is 01:17:21 Okay, no, but we have FODs galore and we're actually bigger than I don't know, Mill Waukey, or better than DC at least. Well, our traffic is see you next time. Alex and NaFook is suggesting that we don't go to watching the DC. A place that has turned out for us every single time. Maybe we could go to... Not if I could... In addition to DC. No! No?
Starting point is 01:17:51 Alex, come to DC! Maybe somebody could get us a tour of like a cool like... Navy ship that's being built. That'd be fun. That could go to a shipyard? There's shipyards there. I've been there. The shipyards are fun.
Starting point is 01:18:05 I went to a target warehouse there one time for a job. Or they were testing robots that were gonna replace people's germs. Neat. Yeah. Yeah. Alex, I gotta tell you, I wanna let you down easy. We do great in Washington DC. It's, it's, it's, it's, it's, it's, it's, it's, it's, it's, it's, it's, it's, it's, it's, it's, it's, it's, it's, it's, it's, it's, it's, it's, it's, it's, it's, it's, it's, it's, it's, it's, it's, it's, it's, it's, it's, it's, it's, it's, it's, it's, it's, it's, it's, it's, it's, it's, it's, it's, it's, it's, it's, it's, it's, it's, it's, it's, it's, it's, it's, it's, it's, it's, it's, it's, it's, it's, it's, it's, it's, it's, it's, it's, it's, it's, it's, it's, it's, it's, it's, it's, it's, it's, it's, it's, it's, it's, it's, it's, it's, it's, it's, it's, it's, it's, it's, it's, it's, it's, it's, it's, it's, it's, it's, it's, it's, it's, it's, it's, it's, it Washington DC. It's it's it's one of the few places we do great.
Starting point is 01:18:27 Consistently good for us in a way that the rest of the US is less and less so. We can't fuck this up. I appreciate the enthusiasm with which you're suggesting. Nafik. But I got to tell you, unless the places we go in Washington DC decide not to entertain us anymore This seems far-fetched We should look at the numbers maybe we should go to South Carolina. We should go to the research triangle Yeah, we've heard this many times, but um We'll give some consideration Alex Alex, I do appreciate your desire. Maybe we'll do a Ben and Adam lose their shirts tour someday where we go to cities where
Starting point is 01:19:12 we will spend way more on getting there and paying for hotel rooms than we earn at the box office. Friends of DeSoto will notice what I'm doing on camera and nodding furiously. No. How about new? No, we will not. Oh, he don't want to do a loser's shirt store. Okay, fine.
Starting point is 01:19:33 Not this time. Ben, our second priority when message is of a personal nature, it's from Louie. It's to David. That message goes like this. Thanks for giving Alyssa, me and our special guests a tour of the White House when we came to DC for the live show this weekend. Your tour provided ample knobs and dome, as well as a secret room where you can insert yourself into three different holes. But seriously, thanks for 21 years of friendship and Star Trek. I hope for many more! Ohhhh!
Starting point is 01:20:06 Louis and David were very fun companions on our tour of the White House. I mean, David was leading the tour. Yeah. David had that kind of modesty that's like, I'm really terrible at giving tours. You're gonna hate this, and instead gave us an incredible tour. It was like- At all times. It was like jungle cruise level tour where there was pattern, there were bits. Don't try to outfall modesty Benjamin R Harrison, okay? In a false modesty measuring contest.
Starting point is 01:20:38 You're never gonna win that. You're gonna fucking lose and lose royally. Yeah. David and Louis were delights and so was Elissa and Bill and Wendy and Adam and I were so thrilled to get to go on that tour of the White House. That was really, really thank you for that, David. Thanks. A career highlight. So cool that this embarrassing Star Trek podcast got us into the halls of power one time.
Starting point is 01:21:05 Yeah. Yeah. I mean, on an off day when no one was there, but... Nope. That would be how we get in there. Well, the cats are away, the dorks will play. Yeah, indeed. Well, if you'd like to send a priority one message, go to Maximum Fun, TatoWorks last Jembo Tron.
Starting point is 01:21:26 If you do it now, you've got a really good chance of getting one in the soon-here after. I got a fairly open calendar, unusually so. Get in there. I'm guessing that there's just a bunch of pent-up messages that Danny Bauduella at the network hasn't added to the spreadsheet yet, but I'm looking at a bunch of open inventory, so go for it. We really appreciate it. Sure do.
Starting point is 01:21:51 Hey Adam. What's happened? Did you find yourself a assimilated Shimoda? I'd love to make my Shimoda one of the heads on the sticks. So many heads on sticks this episode. I gotta say, season six of Star Trek Voyager is such a rocky Janeway season. There are really moments of triumph for her, but I would say mostly a down Janeway season
Starting point is 01:22:23 and a down Chico Te season for sure. And I think, I think it's Janeway for me here. Does she want to die? Do you want to die Captain Janeway? Why are you doing this? You don't have to. You just got in touch with Starfleet. They want to help you out month to month.
Starting point is 01:22:43 They're going to give you information. What are you going to do this? Why did you do that? I think everything goes back to them, a glauphum group. Like, is this convincing enough? Is policy convincing enough to sacrifice yourself for between 14 and 26 borricks living in a hollow universe that is Unimetric Zero. Yeah.
Starting point is 01:23:10 Like if what they really want to do is destroy all borricks everywhere, that doesn't seem to explain it. It seems this is a episode of Adventure in a way that I wish was a little more motivated. And it's all up to Janeway to decide that. And I don't, I'm just not sure this is articulated enough for that. It's really cool and it gives us a really spectacular kind of cliff to hang on at the end. But if you just think about it a little bit more, why are we here?
Starting point is 01:23:44 That's where I'm at with it a little bit more, why are we here? That's where I'm at with it. What about you, Ben? I'm giving you the Janeway as well, but it's really just because of that loaf that they put her in at the end. It just, if you can't nail it,
Starting point is 01:23:57 you gotta save it for the next season. You do not want to be laughing at the loaf. No. Laughing with the loaf is fine. Laughing at? No good. Like whenever you get a new haircut, what cannot happen is a laugh.
Starting point is 01:24:11 Ha ha ha ha. It has to at least be neutral. Yeah. And we can't be neutral about this. Can't. Can not. What? What?
Starting point is 01:24:23 It also can't be neutral about our next episode of this show. and not. It's too many numbers. Part 2. That has to be the most numbers dense. It's too many numbers. Episode title. Yeah. Season of any. Hey, and it's start, the description even starts with a number. Sevens, long lost love, Lures Janeway into a deadly encounter with the poor queen. So it sounds like Axum is back for more.
Starting point is 01:25:03 It kind of sounds like when you put it that way, Janeway has been lured into a trap. No. Yeah, I guess you could say so. Adam, our runabout is currently on square five. Looks like we could hit a caretaker square here on the game of buttholes. The will of a caretaker square here on the game of buttholes Will of the caretaker. It's weird to be way down here again, huh? Yeah, we're all the way back at the bottom
Starting point is 01:25:32 It's not safe here though. No, no, no, no, no, where's safe? You're required to learn as you play roll I'm gonna go and roll this boat. What do you say? Yeah? Oh? I'm gonna go and roll this bow, what are you saying? Yeah. Oh my God! I rolled a five. We have landed on the caretaker, I believe for the first time. I'll never end!
Starting point is 01:25:53 Oh no, oh no! We're told to trust the caretaker's decisions. I've initiated a self-discrub-proper. Oh no! Oh no! Aren't you contentious for a minor bipedal species? I've initiated a self-discrub program. Oh no! Oh, well, oh no! Aren't you contentious for a minor bipedal species? And the caretaker is the square where we jump now to a random square.
Starting point is 01:26:17 We have a 100-sided die now, and we can end up anywhere on the board. And we have to do this now. This isn't something that happens at the end of the next episode? No, this happens now. Holy shit. Yeah. Hold on to your butts. I'm gonna hit roll. Where are we?
Starting point is 01:26:37 Fuck, we landed on square 21. Oh, let's go! Oh, no! Hey, his eyes uncovered square in which the host must employ Tamarian style metaphors during the episode. This is an FOD favorite. We hear it all the time. I'm just glad it didn't throw us right onto another
Starting point is 01:26:59 Mornhavard episode. Yeah. That would have been rough. I was just listening to a recent Adam Ruggusia episode where he was talking about going to Phoenix and taking a flyer on having the address of the guy he thought might have written Darmock and going and knocking on the front door of that house and thereby landing an interview for his back in the day podcast with the guy that wrote Darmak. We might need to get Adam
Starting point is 01:27:31 Rekoussion on the on the Marin for next episode, see if you can talk us through how to do this. I mean I absolutely think we should do that but not in a way that we're like asking for advice because that seems like a terrible idea The goose has got great advice to give and yet he's achieved great success Beyond the dreams of Averis Maybe that's what it takes yeah some cold knocking Yeah, I go knock on some doors. Well, um, this has been a ton of fun Sorry for how drunk we were on this one everyone everyone. I don't apologize, it's the board's fault.
Starting point is 01:28:08 It is the board's fault. The board has really been wildly landing us at Caretaker Square, like that. It's crazy. Yeah. Just a few thanks to Givout before the end of the episode. Of course, first and foremost, I got to think Wendy pretty, the producer and editor of this show show who is a big chunky episode to add it and we're
Starting point is 01:28:29 I think two two big chunky episodes in now so I look forward to editing this on an airplane. Anything that's gonna fall to you? As it sometimes does. I'll jump on that grenade. You don't need to do this one. That would be surprising Fuck Absolutely top rope right? I have a baby. What are you gonna do the Randy Savage handshake at the end of this? Oh
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